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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 LiftForSwift wrote:
''Gargants'' is just so dumb. I'll never get over it, just the same with Ogres and Imperial Guard. They're giants! GIANTS!

And dwarves. Fyreslayers are dwarves.

You mean Fire slayers? Also the name is silly, they are on fire, they don't slay fires. That's a fire-fighter, and they can't be dwarfs.

Cronch wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 LiftForSwift wrote:
''Gargants'' is just so dumb. I'll never get over it, just the same with Ogres and Imperial Guard. They're giants! GIANTS!

And dwarves. Fyreslayers are dwarves.

You mean Fire slayers? Also the name is silly, they are on fire, they don't slay fires. That's a fire-fighter, and they can't be dwarfs.

Why can't firefighters be dwarves? Are you suggesting that when a mine gets a fire they have to hire in humans to do the firefighting for them?!


Also they aren't fire-slayers they are fyreslayers. Totally different, its just phonetically that they are similar. It's closer to think of them as dwarves with an inner fire which shows through on their bodies with the runes that are beaten into them and which blaze during combat.

Shouldn't they be fyre-caretakers then? They harbor the inner fire, not slay it.
Also everyone knows that firefighter have height requiement, no dwarf can reach it.

Of course AoS names aren't that bad. warhammer fantasy was even worse, it'd have "lizardmen" which spawned from pools, making them amphibians, or "high" elves that were in fact the same height as any other elf, or "dark" elves with even paler skin that the "high" elves...don't even get me started on orcs, they don't even live in the oceans!
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Cronch wrote:
Shouldn't they be fyre-caretakers then? They harbor the inner fire, not slay it.
Also everyone knows that firefighter have height requiement, no dwarf can reach it.

Of course AoS names aren't that bad. warhammer fantasy was even worse, it'd have "lizardmen" which spawned from pools, making them amphibians, or "high" elves that were in fact the same height as any other elf, or "dark" elves with even paler skin that the "high" elves...don't even get me started on orcs, they don't even live in the oceans!
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This is the post we needed. This is the post we deserved.

You guys have it wrong; fireslayers would be people who slay fires. FYREslayers are slayers who are also fiery. 'Fyre' is an adjective.

Although one has to admit that their models would make for quite nice normal-Slayers alongside more standard Dwarfs. Like playing Mordheim with modern-availability models, and the like.

Does anybody know where I can find the leaked pic of the forthcoming Slaanesh vs (?) army box, the one with the new Slaaneshi champion in it?

I've gone back through a large chunk of the thread but I can't find it, I just wanted to be reminded of what is in the box!

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Does anybody know where I can find the leaked pic of the forthcoming Slaanesh vs (?) army box, the one with the new Slaaneshi champion in it?

I've gone back through a large chunk of the thread but I can't find it, I just wanted to be reminded of what is in the box!

This one?

It wasn't a leak. It was from GW themselves.

There's all the contents.
There's the preview article.
Here was the Dakka thread collecting everything from the day.
They said it's in November.

Thanks both of you, that’s exactly what I wanted to see

 DaveC wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/24/the-history-of-the-world-titan/

It's looking like Sons of Behemat will be revealed on Sunday for preorder on the 3rd and release on the 10th.

Well that didn't age well. The 10th is a 40K week (the price list is doing the rounds) so a little longer to wait.

 DaveC wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/24/the-history-of-the-world-titan/

It's looking like Sons of Behemat will be revealed on Sunday for preorder on the 3rd and release on the 10th.

Well that didn't age well. The 10th is a 40K week (the price list is doing the rounds) so a little longer to wait.

I remember seeing something about a Novel being up for pre order on the 10th? Maybe that will be the Behemet pre order date. All the recent novel tie ins have gone up with their preorders.

Yeah novel store date 17th so preorder 10th. Virtually quaranteed b_ttletome and model(s) come then as well.　so announcement week later

not sure, seeing how marines and necrons have more models announced than that there are in the pre-order this coming saturday, which mostly means a second week follows

terry wrote:
not sure, seeing how marines and necrons have more models announced than that there are in the pre-order this coming saturday, which mostly means a second week follows

It wouldn’t be unlike GW to weirdly split up a release, and there’s a Sons of Behemat audiobook going up for preorder on the 10th (edit: oops this was the whole discussion anyway) which is probably to tie in with the army release. I wouldn’t be particularly surprised if they aren’t up for preorder on the 10th, but I am expecting them to be.

 ImAGeek wrote:

terry wrote:
not sure, seeing how marines and necrons have more models announced than that there are in the pre-order this coming saturday, which mostly means a second week follows

It wouldn’t be unlike GW to weirdly split up a release, and there’s a Sons of Behemat audiobook going up for preorder on the 10th (edit: oops this was the whole discussion anyway) which is probably to tie in with the army release. I wouldn’t be particularly surprised if they aren’t up for preorder on the 10th, but I am expecting them to be.

Yeah, its just a weird situation right now, both are equaly possible based on the past

Do you think with the Broken Relams Books, Sons of Behemat will be the Last Battletome before a possible Release of a 3rd Edition in Summer 2021?

If they do 9 books like Psychic Awakening starting before Christmas and doing 1 a month that would certainly bring us up to the summer. I think Broken Realms will be less than 9 books there are 23 armies SoB will be 24 so 3 or 4 in each book would be 6 to 8 books. 2 per book would take too long unless some armies get left out.

Wonder, if we will see new Units, not only Heroes/Characters for those featured Factions with Book releases.

Would be nice when the Wolf Riders got a "new" own Faction.

RazorEdge wrote:
Wonder, if we will see new Units, not only Heroes/Characters for those featured Factions with Book releases.

Would be nice when the Wolf Riders got a "new" own Faction.

pa for 40k had some units, but no new factions. So I doubt wolf riders will get their own faction in a broken realm book

I'm just hopeful mortals of Slaanesh get a real release- not just the hero and the underworlds warband

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'm just hopeful mortals of Slaanesh get a real release- not just the hero and the underworlds warband

same here and that they rethink depravation points in such a way that it isn't hero dependent

Nice as it'd be, they'd show that off along with the hero. We're probably looking at the same release pattern as Psychic Awakening, so 2 heroes per book and maybe a new/refreshed unit.

Cronch wrote:
Nice as it'd be, they'd show that off along with the hero. We're probably looking at the same release pattern as Psychic Awakening, so 2 heroes per book and maybe a new/refreshed unit.

Psychic Awakening had no real 'pattern' unfortunately. Some saw a single new hero, some saw multiples, some only saw new units, some only saw rules tweaks.

did anything see multiples? The most I can think of is eldar and deldar getting 1 hero and 1 unit each?

Cronch wrote:
did anything see multiples? The most I can think of is eldar and deldar getting 1 hero and 1 unit each?

Didn't Ad Mech get a whole second wave? Or was that separate?

Phoenix, Pariah, and Saga of the Beast saw multiples.

Engine War had multiple new units(Pteraxii, Serberys, Archaeopter) plus the first book format rules for the previously released Techpriest Manipulus and Skorpius tanks.

Greater Good, Ritual of the Damned, Blood of Baal, War of the Spider all saw one new/revamped hero.

Faith and Fury only saw rules, plus maybe some generic blisters released if I remember right?

Thing is almost every AoS army barring a small handful, has need of updates. Either replacing older metal/finecast/really really old first gen plastics - with modern plastics; or adding to a very small force.

Skaven have 1st gen plastics (eg rat ogres); metals and finecast. So whilst they've a huge and diverse arm they have a lot of need for updating. Same for Seraphon (old Lizardmen).

Meanwhile armies like Flesheaters, Daughers of Khaine, Fyreslayers etc... have tiny armies which work well, but which have very few real options and diveristy. Many of their builds are often "spam x unit". Heck Dok has the fewest number of actual kits on sale of any AoS army - it just so happens one builds 3 or more leaders and most of the others are duel kits; but in general they've very limited options.


So you can pick almost any army and justify a big update in a book or expansion being needed. Stormcast, Nighhaunt and Gloomspite Gitz are perhaps the only armies (off the top of my head) that don't need a big revamp, but have already had it as part of AoS already (Khorne likely should be added to that list as they've had a lot of releases too).

Stormcast don't need a model revamp, necessarily, but jesus that book is a mess when one really sits and reads through it.

I think its because they were going to do Stormcast just like Marines and then someone realised that that isn't a good idea and scrapped it and sort of pushed two or more separate stormcast armies into one - resulting in a bit of a mess.

So they wound up with a bloat of models that trip over each other; but which can certainly be fixed given an updated book.