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jullevi wrote:

I have decided to wait for 360° pics of the Vampire so that I can hate it from all directions. I hope that rest of the range is not as bad.

That made me chuckle.

For me, AoS is becoming increasingly hit and miss. I love one army they release and the next I think, eh? I dunno... I love the game and have played religiously since it dropped (pandemic excluded) but I can't help but feel the design direction they want to go may push me away.

 lare2 wrote:

jullevi wrote:

I have decided to wait for 360° pics of the Vampire so that I can hate it from all directions. I hope that rest of the range is not as bad.

That made me chuckle.

For me, AoS is becoming increasingly hit and miss. I love one army they release and the next I think, eh? I dunno... I love the game and have played religiously since it dropped (pandemic excluded) but I can't help but feel the design direction they want to go may push me away.

As bad as some of the AoS stuff is, at least it's not another variation on power armour every month.

 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
I think the only thing I might have preferred is the antelope-like heads on the cavalry helmets matched more with the mount's head. Because the way the horns twist is sweet. It does make me wonder what the creature they are actually for looks like. I suppose if the Alarith are anything to go by in might be a Spirit of the Wind type model. They look really good. Not so sure about the extra yellow-ish cream-colored clothes though.

The robes in the showcase shots are done up in Iliatha colors...which is kinda surprising. The box art was in Ymetrica colors.

The good news is it shouldn't be impossible to find a good proxy for a vampire lord. We've got a ton of finecast/metal vampires (for now), but we've also got the Underworlds team to use, the FEC Archregent, aelves, and even the ladies on the coven throne.

Unless of course a vampire lord must be armed with a "Soulrending Blood-drain Mace" and "vampire bat hair swarm"

 GaroRobe wrote:
I feel like this is going to be a pretty big reveal event. We've seen three units so far, and all of them could be chocked under the "AOS" section. Plus, I feel like we haven't seen everything from that section yet, given the lack of bat creatures and swirly magic stuff

And didn’t the article say something about seeing more Lumineth on the preview?
So it’s big just on the AoS side.
(I assume they’ll still take time showing these reveals).

I sometimes wish the pictures didn’t come out, when it’s only Saturday they’ll be out in a fun hour or so of entertainment during lockdown.
It’s just a few bits less of excitement available now, unless they add more to the show, but I doubt that..

To me the Lumineth stuff looks good. I appreciate the aesthetic they are going for and think they did a good rendition with solid models, even if I am not particularly an elf person. The vampire I really like, the pose looks like it can be put on the ground or on the rock and work either way, the armor is ornamented in that gothic beauty associated with vampires but GW did not load on tons of little detail. And that, in particular, really makes it look better than it could have. The hair is a bit strange, but easily removed if one does not like it so not a huge deal imo.

 Overread wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still not Kangaroos.

I grow increasingly concerned that too many people here have not watched Starwars Empire Strikes Back!

Or ever seen video of kangaroo

 lare2 wrote:

jullevi wrote:

I have decided to wait for 360° pics of the Vampire so that I can hate it from all directions. I hope that rest of the range is not as bad.

That made me chuckle.

For me, AoS is becoming increasingly hit and miss. I love one army they release and the next I think, eh? I dunno... I love the game and have played religiously since it dropped (pandemic excluded) but I can't help but feel the design direction they want to go may push me away.

I don't mind an army for being a miss for me. The ones that get me are things like the Lumineth and the Fish Elves, where the initial releases are fine and even great, but then later stuff wanders off into crazytown. Especially when they drop or spontaneously develop completely divergent aesthetics. That I hate seeing.

I don't know what to tell you, because it was clear early on that the Aelementari Temples were going to be the Lumineth version of Aspect Warriors.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
I think the only thing I might have preferred is the antelope-like heads on the cavalry helmets matched more with the mount's head. Because the way the horns twist is sweet. It does make me wonder what the creature they are actually for looks like. I suppose if the Alarith are anything to go by in might be a Spirit of the Wind type model. They look really good. Not so sure about the extra yellow-ish cream-colored clothes though.

The robes in the showcase shots are done up in Iliatha colors...which is kinda surprising. The box art was in Ymetrica colors.

I am pretty sure that's still Ymetrica. That color is not nearly orange enough for Iliatha. It's more of a yellow than orange. I think each aspect temple is going their own clothing color in the default GW paint scheme. If you look closely at the Stone Guard, their robes aren't the Skeleton Horde+Medium color but a light gray instead. Probably something like Grey Seer lighten with Medium. There's still very little evidence, but I think all temples are going to have slight variations in color while being painted in Ymetrica (the box art Great Nation) on the GW painted stuff.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 lare2 wrote:

jullevi wrote:

I have decided to wait for 360° pics of the Vampire so that I can hate it from all directions. I hope that rest of the range is not as bad.

That made me chuckle.

For me, AoS is becoming increasingly hit and miss. I love one army they release and the next I think, eh? I dunno... I love the game and have played religiously since it dropped (pandemic excluded) but I can't help but feel the design direction they want to go may push me away.

As bad as some of the AoS stuff is, at least it's not another variation on power armour every month.

Both 40k and fantasy are amazingly rich in therms of concepts that can be explored... Its a shame 40k is playing too safe with the space marines spam while AoS is an open canvas these days, coming up with good and bad stuff at the same time, but all of them interesting new directions.
40k has so many factions already nailed down to the smallest detail that updates come in the form of range extensions with little tweaks. AoS is more, there you go, have new faction with cows and and play with that

It is what it is I guess. I'm planning on going with gold+brass armor and Iliatha's yellow colors for my army at the moment.

It's going to look weird if I screw up.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I don't know what to tell you, because it was clear early on that the Aelementari Temples were going to be the Lumineth version of Aspect Warriors.

It was all fine until the Fire nation attacked, armed with the letters A, I and a misplaced R (they lost the L)

 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
I think the only thing I might have preferred is the antelope-like heads on the cavalry helmets matched more with the mount's head. Because the way the horns twist is sweet. It does make me wonder what the creature they are actually for looks like. I suppose if the Alarith are anything to go by in might be a Spirit of the Wind type model. They look really good. Not so sure about the extra yellow-ish cream-colored clothes though.

The robes in the showcase shots are done up in Iliatha colors...which is kinda surprising. The box art was in Ymetrica colors.

I am pretty sure that's still Ymetrica. That color is not nearly orange enough for Iliatha. It's more of a yellow than orange. I think each aspect temple is going their own clothing color in the default GW paint scheme. If you look closely at the Stone Guard, their robes aren't the Skeleton Horde+Medium color but a light gray instead. Probably something like Grey Seer lighten with Medium. There's still very little evidence, but I think all temples are going to have slight variations in color while being painted in Ymetrica (the box art Great Nation) on the GW painted stuff.

The box art leak and the showcase models are painted the same.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

 lare2 wrote:

jullevi wrote:

I have decided to wait for 360° pics of the Vampire so that I can hate it from all directions. I hope that rest of the range is not as bad.

That made me chuckle.

For me, AoS is becoming increasingly hit and miss. I love one army they release and the next I think, eh? I dunno... I love the game and have played religiously since it dropped (pandemic excluded) but I can't help but feel the design direction they want to go may push me away.

As bad as some of the AoS stuff is, at least it's not another variation on power armour every month.

Both 40k and fantasy are amazingly rich in therms of concepts that can be explored... Its a shame 40k is playing too safe with the space marines spam while AoS is an open canvas these days, coming up with good and bad stuff at the same time, but all of them interesting new directions.
40k has so many factions already nailed down to the smallest detail that updates come in the form of range extensions with little tweaks. AoS is more, there you go, have new faction with cows and and play with that

I can agree with this. I may not like the aesthetic of every AoS faction (Though I do like most) I can get behind the fact that they are trying out all kinds of new and cool stuff. It's much better than a lot of the boxed in designs in 40k in that aspect, no question.

Agreed.

The new Lumineth are AWESOME! I love the new hero!

I'm confused... What's a 'Vampire Lord'???

Surely they mean 'Crimsondeath Bloodgargler'...?

So, that hero is slightly different to the teaser of a model who looks similar, the reigns are different, the fur colour different and shield position. So is there gonna be a heavy cav unit on these mounts to come with the hero potentially? Or maybe a named character alt build?

 insaniak wrote:
I'm confused... What's a 'Vampire Lord'???

Surely they mean 'Crimsondeath Bloodgargler'...?

2020 was a tough year. Let the AoS name makers take this one break. I mean it'll be tough to remember Lord of Umpires... Empires...? Something like that. The not two compound words dead dude is what I'll call the model.

 insaniak wrote:
I'm confused... What's a 'Vampire Lord'???

Surely they mean 'Crimsondeath Bloodgargler'...?

That did make me chuckle.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
So, that hero is slightly different to the teaser of a model who looks similar, the reigns are different, the fur colour different and shield position. So is there gonna be a heavy cav unit on these mounts to come with the hero potentially? Or maybe a named character alt build?

More likely than not a named character. Also there's a potential for a 'Battlemage', as the Vanari/Scinari do have them.

Looking again at the "New Year, New Models" video:
It's a different shield entirely on the teased model. I wouldn't be shocked if it's a named version or some kind of priest/battlemage? The head for the mount looks to be different explaining the different reins.

I'll be super okay if it has a way to build the rear of the mount in a different pose like Arch-Kavalos Zandtos and the Liege-Kavalos build two fairly different poses.

New lumineth looks much better with the new pic (helps that they don't have a kangoroo pose). The vampire is still bad, though a head swap would probably help a lot

Lumineth Cavalry.

It’s weird. As a unit of models, there’s not a huge amount of variety in the poses of both rider and critter.

Yet, it works. The mounts strike me as pack creatures, who would move as such. And the riders all being at full draw, bow to the left of the mount follows that.

The whole effect is of a unit in sync. Which is very fitting.

 Arbitrator wrote:


As bad as some of the AoS stuff is, at least it's not another variation on power armour every month.

That is very true. I can't help thinking about the below though...

The other guy: Bats stuck in hair, fully armored, bright mental problems neon red hair, looking off to the side for some reason, standing on a rock like a weirdo
The Chad OG: Barely any armor that matters, ripped for 500, bald, got a cool pet bat dragon thing, flexing his wings, perched on rock like a chad, a power stance.

Verdict: Eh

Each to their own, but seeing a better picture of that vampire lord has actually put me off it.

To me it just seems so, well, bland. The pose is dull and awkward, the armour is both boring and completely lacking in any details, the bats look barely better than the monstrosities I bought 20+ years ago, the weapon has clearly been pinched from Sauron, and the less said about the face the better.

Also, Holy Oversized Pauldrons, Batman!

Also also, is he (she?) wearing his older brother's armour? If not, why does it look like the collar is trying to eat him?

Lastly, unless his head is supposed to detach and double as a new Endless Spell of some sort, I really don't get the whole bat-hair thing.

 vipoid wrote:


Lastly, unless his head is supposed to detach and double as a new Endless Spell of some sort, I really don't get the whole bat-hair thing.

It's a long standing theme that vampires can turn into bats - in some lore its one bat in others its many bats - ergo a swarm. If you watch the semi-recent Dracula Untold film then he can turn into a massive swarm of bats. Basically the bats to hair - to me at least- suggests that the vampire is in a stage of transformation; either reforming after just being a swarm of bats or into the swarm. Either way they've gone for giving it just at the very start/end so the bats are only just connected to the hair - which allows them to carry the theme but without losing the body and form of the character.

 Overread wrote:

 vipoid wrote:


Lastly, unless his head is supposed to detach and double as a new Endless Spell of some sort, I really don't get the whole bat-hair thing.

It's a long standing theme that vampires can turn into bats - in some lore its one bat in others its many bats - ergo a swarm. If you watch the semi-recent Dracula Untold film then he can turn into a massive swarm of bats. Basically the bats to hair - to me at least- suggests that the vampire is in a stage of transformation; either reforming after just being a swarm of bats or into the swarm. Either way they've gone for giving it just at the very start/end so the bats are only just connected to the hair - which allows them to carry the theme but without losing the body and form of the character.

I'm wondering if that's what they were going for. I kind of see it, but I feel like the bats are facing the wrong direction. Unless he's planning on fleeing the opposite way.



Konrad here feels like a better execution. Also, GW hasn't bothered changing the addresses for the "generic" vampire lords. The Carstein's live on!

I think Overread's interpretation makes sense if they are the last of the bats as the Vampire takes form.