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2021/05/23 20:33:36
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Seraphon just received a new battletome in March of 2020, so they're probably pretty low on the totem pole for a new battletome but stranger things have happened.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2021/05/23 20:41:26
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Okay, fair enough, I’m not too familiar with the Lizard release chronology for AoS, just seemed like they haven’t had new models in a while and the Saurus must be some of the older models GW still sells.
2021/05/23 20:55:43
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
AllSeeingSkink wrote: Okay, fair enough, I’m not too familiar with the Lizard release chronology for AoS, just seemed like they haven’t had new models in a while and the Saurus must be some of the older models GW still sells.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2021/05/23 21:14:19
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
I'm not sure what the new greenskin faction will be, but I totally could have gotten behind an industrial orruk army. Something akin to Sauruman's urukhai, but maybe with more blackpowder weapons. Nothing on par with skygrots or KO, but still clearly industrial themed.
Kragnos is growing on me too. I liked the model, but now I kind of want to make an army of monsters themed around him, like a non chaos Throgg force. I just wish he had another face option. I think a war mask option would have done him wonders.
2021/05/24 00:46:21
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Dominion? Like in World of Warcraft: Shadowlands: Chains of Domination?
Glad I'm only playing it as a market simulator right now, and my usual RP. Hate to have only 50 characters.
Where was I? Oh yes.
Do to Warhammer+, I like the new greenskinz, but I like them because the previous range got squatted so horribly short. They are pretty much only one infantry + one cavalry + one elite option and your flavour of heroes; I like my armies with more options.
2021/05/24 02:32:12
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Thargrim wrote: Really hope those are hobgoblins and not just orc or goblins in different gear. Really though i'm getting tired of greenskins, I think we have enough varieties of them as it is. Re envisioned Fimir would have been so much more interesting, now i'm back to the mindset that I won't be starting an AoS army...since the vamps were so underwhelming.
Yeah......I'm with you on this one. Hobgoblins wouldn't be too bad, but more orcs and goblins? I think there are already enough varieties of them. I would have been all over re-envisioned Fimir and was definitely open to something new in general, but more orcs is just kind of meh......I was hoping for something cool and unique to assemble a Warcry band of.
2021/05/24 02:49:52
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Thargrim wrote: Really hope those are hobgoblins and not just orc or goblins in different gear. Really though i'm getting tired of greenskins, I think we have enough varieties of them as it is. Re envisioned Fimir would have been so much more interesting, now i'm back to the mindset that I won't be starting an AoS army...since the vamps were so underwhelming.
Yeah......I'm with you on this one. Hobgoblins wouldn't be too bad, but more orcs and goblins? I think there are already enough varieties of them.
Where are they hiding them, then?
There are currently:
Night goblins (with a few token forest goblins hanging out on what are now effectively night goblin spiders)
Black orcs
Savage orcs
... that's it. All the other varieties (including the 'normal' ones) have been banished from reality.
Efficiency is the highest virtue.
2021/05/24 03:03:00
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Overread wrote: It's an expansion rather than a new Seraphon book and with 3rd ed we know there's a full new Seraphon book around the corner at some stage which would be a more likely time that GW would do any major range revision for them. IF they do one, there's still a good few armies in worse positions such as Skaven with a boatload of much older models or Fyreslayers with very few models.
I wouldn't expect Lizards until 2023 - the last time they were mentioned (last year I think) it was said they were still far off.
Shadow Walker wrote: So if the new GW skellies are prone to snapping would any of you who own Sepulchral Guard push fit skellies recommend them? I want sturdy HIPS skellies for solo/co-p/skirmish games.
You could always go third party
If a third party makes ones I like then yes Old Warlord ones are a pain to build and fragile, Oathmark ones are similar, Wargames Atlantic have weird proportions. Yeah, I am picky but it looks like SG are my last chance to get HIPS skellies. Most of the games like The Lasting Tales/Frostgrave etc. will not want more than 5-6 skellies on board so this could be a good choice but I need to be sure they are sturdy or at least more sturdy than others on the market.
Maybe look into metal?
HIPS only
Well then you are stuck with weird proportions or models that break easily. Which one would be easier to work with for you?
Yeah, weird proportions of WGA ones because at least they are sturdy but I would get them only because there are archers as option. Still, I hope that Sepulchral Guard would be a solution and get me good looking and non fragile skellies but someone has to yet give me opinion about them. So far no owner of them said anything here.
2021/05/24 07:42:50
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Shadow Walker wrote: So if the new GW skellies are prone to snapping would any of you who own Sepulchral Guard push fit skellies recommend them? I want sturdy HIPS skellies for solo/co-p/skirmish games.
You could always go third party
If a third party makes ones I like then yes Old Warlord ones are a pain to build and fragile, Oathmark ones are similar, Wargames Atlantic have weird proportions. Yeah, I am picky but it looks like SG are my last chance to get HIPS skellies. Most of the games like The Lasting Tales/Frostgrave etc. will not want more than 5-6 skellies on board so this could be a good choice but I need to be sure they are sturdy or at least more sturdy than others on the market.
Maybe look into metal?
HIPS only
Well then you are stuck with weird proportions or models that break easily. Which one would be easier to work with for you?
Yeah, weird proportions of WGA ones because at least they are sturdy but I would get them only because there are archers as option. Still, I hope that Sepulchral Guard would be a solution and get me good looking and non fragile skellies but someone has to yet give me opinion about them. So far no owner of them said anything here.
If you fear broken limbs, Sepulchral Guard is no different from the Vampire Counts skeletons and, I can only assume for lack of having any yet, the new skeleton kit. One arm broke off during assembly for sure, maybe a second one, too. It's been a while since I assembled them. I'm afraid I can only repeat what's already been said, bones at this scale aren't very sturdy. That's just the nature of it.
Now, I will say that I generally have confidence in GW plastic skeletons. You need to treat them with care, of course, as you should with all slender miniatures, but GW doesn't sell fundamentally flawed models. Sometimes there's manufacturer error like the mentioned flow problems that occasionally crop up. Sometimes it's user error. But in spite of having pretty shaky hands and all the problems that come with it, I've assembled dozens and dozens of skeletons in my time and the number of broken limbs I've had is negligible. Something you may also want to consider is that this may only be an issue during assembly. If you add a good coat or two of varnish after painting, you get a lot of added sturdiness to your models.
Out of curiosity, you said you're only going to use half a dozen or so models at a time. It may sound wasteful, but if I were in your position I'd consider getting the new skeletons simply because they come in a box of twenty. Even if there's a little loss, and let me say again that I don't think there is an actual, structural problem with the kit, you still end up with more good models than you need. Something to think about, I guess.
Nah, "Dominion" is still a trash name, and someone came up with it on a toilet break after eating too many primaris lieutenants.
No sure why the name bothers you that much, but you can probably live happy in the knowledge that the box will sell out in five minutes and never be seen again. GW already called it a launch box like Indomitus. Why put more time into thinking up a name than it takes to sell out?
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
2021/05/24 08:56:23
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Slightly more than the other leak then. Lauka Vai at £39.50 seems even better with the Warsong Revenant being only 5 quid less. I know she isn’t massive and the Revenant isn’t small but I’d have expected more between them.
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If you fear broken limbs, Sepulchral Guard is no different from the Vampire Counts skeletons and, I can only assume for lack of having any yet, the new skeleton kit. One arm broke off during assembly for sure, maybe a second one, too. It's been a while since I assembled them. I'm afraid I can only repeat what's already been said, bones at this scale aren't very sturdy. That's just the nature of it.
Now, I will say that I generally have confidence in GW plastic skeletons. You need to treat them with care, of course, as you should with all slender miniatures, but GW doesn't sell fundamentally flawed models. Sometimes there's manufacturer error like the mentioned flow problems that occasionally crop up. Sometimes it's user error. But in spite of having pretty shaky hands and all the problems that come with it, I've assembled dozens and dozens of skeletons in my time and the number of broken limbs I've had is negligible. Something you may also want to consider is that this may only be an issue during assembly. If you add a good coat or two of varnish after painting, you get a lot of added sturdiness to your models.
Out of curiosity, you said you're only going to use half a dozen or so models at a time. It may sound wasteful, but if I were in your position I'd consider getting the new skeletons simply because they come in a box of twenty. Even if there's a little loss, and let me say again that I don't think there is an actual, structural problem with the kit, you still end up with more good models than you need. Something to think about, I guess.
Hmm, you gave me something to think about
2021/05/24 11:18:36
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Twins at £65 also appears cheaper than I estimated
The twist for the "twins" box is that it's singular, not plurial.
If you want to have both of them, you have to buy two kits. And suddenly, it's expensive.
But of course. Which is a bit cheeky, but at the same time its no different to a Keeper and hero version of a keeper. Plus we don't know the twins points yet. They'll either be powerful but cheap (300 or so each) so you could take both; or supremely powerful and you'll only need (or practically be able to) fit one at a time.
But of course. Which is a bit cheeky, but at the same time its no different to a Keeper and hero version of a keeper. Plus we don't know the twins points yet. They'll either be powerful but cheap (300 or so each) so you could take both; or supremely powerful and you'll only need (or practically be able to) fit one at a time.
To be honest, cost in points is a bit irrelevant here. I was talking about having the duo like they were presented in the video. But otherwise, I agree with you.
2021/05/24 14:07:26
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2021/05/24 14:15:42
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: BR:Kragnos and Soulblight p.132.
Old Warlord ones are a pain to build and fragile, Oathmark ones are similar, Wargames Atlantic have weird proportions. Yeah, I am picky but it looks like 
