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Let's not go down the politics road, please... a few posts last page coming close to sending us that way.

Thanks all

So I live in the 1 (I think) Pennsylvania county that is shut down, and my boss is still making everyone come to work unless you have kids who are out of school (why don't dogs count as kids?). I told him I'm working from home starting monday. If it's a problem, I'll just take the time off. My fiance is a cancer survivor, i'm not risking bringing germs home to her. That and my commute is over an hour and I just don't wanna since I have a valid excuse

People at work are saying grocery stores were cleared out of everything from TP to sweet potatoes last night. And liquor stores are packed with people grabbing all the booze they can. We stocked up on the essentials last week luckily, so I'm gonna head to my local butcher tomorrow and get a bunch of meat since I need to restock anyway, and the lemmings don't even know they exist, and it's better than anything in the grocery stores. Gonna get a 4 pound pork belly, cuz times like these call for homemade bacon, just sucks that it takes a week to make it.

Haha priorities!

 Necros wrote:
So I live in the 1 (I think) Pennsylvania county that is shut down, and my boss is still making everyone come to work unless you have kids who are out of school (why don't dogs count as kids?). I told him I'm working from home starting monday. If it's a problem, I'll just take the time off. My fiance is a cancer survivor, i'm not risking bringing germs home to her. That and my commute is over an hour and I just don't wanna since I have a valid excuse

People at work are saying grocery stores were cleared out of everything from TP to sweet potatoes last night. And liquor stores are packed with people grabbing all the booze they can. We stocked up on the essentials last week luckily, so I'm gonna head to my local butcher tomorrow and get a bunch of meat since I need to restock anyway, and the lemmings don't even know they exist, and it's better than anything in the grocery stores. Gonna get a 4 pound pork belly, cuz times like these call for homemade bacon, just sucks that it takes a week to make it.

We have multiple buildings in Philly shut down - internal memos are basically "hey we totally had a case.... take a free PTO day or work remote". Stock up and good luck!

I'm rolling into the office Sunday to pick stuff up but otherwise its a few weeks of hermit mode

Have a friend who works retail, she told me someone bought 400 bucks worth of TP yesterday.

So of course I had to go down to my local grocery store and observe the chaos.

It actually wasn't so bad, only slightly more busy than I've usually seen it, and not the worst I'd ever seen it besides.

That said, the TP isle was completely barren.

Tellingly, the isle across from it was fully stocked with hand soap.

No, we do are not required to have any food ready. Though, a lot of people in general could get by for a week with their general reserves. Now we have mild panic as people are buying out key food groups. We have highly developed market chains in our country and additional groceries were ordered weeks ago by major retailers. So far markets had proven quite resilient and able to cope with people cleaning them in order to buy up enough food for quarantine.

Today we were told to take our computers from work in order if we would be asked to work from home. Our company is quite concerned about it, but others are not. Some private companies are fighting government over quarantining employees who got from Italy. They do not want to nor workers show symptoms while general public is screaming of how evil they are and begging for police state tyrannical regime where everyone is shot. While our government being just little bit overzealous, shutting itself down before actual spread of disease had even happened, but it had failed to provide sufficient oversight of all incoming people from dangerous regions. So it is always some idiot who is coming back from holidays in Italy who is infected.

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Have a friend who works retail, she told me someone bought 400 bucks worth of TP yesterday.

So of course I had to go down to my local grocery store and observe the chaos.

It actually wasn't so bad, only slightly more busy than I've usually seen it, and not the worst I'd ever seen it besides.

That said, the TP isle was completely barren.

Tellingly, the isle across from it was fully stocked with hand soap.

It's not bloody dysentery...

Crispy78 wrote:

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Have a friend who works retail, she told me someone bought 400 bucks worth of TP yesterday.

So of course I had to go down to my local grocery store and observe the chaos.

It actually wasn't so bad, only slightly more busy than I've usually seen it, and not the worst I'd ever seen it besides.

That said, the TP isle was completely barren.

Tellingly, the isle across from it was fully stocked with hand soap.

It's not bloody dysentery...

I mean i sit on a bunker , but where the hell do you storage 400$ of toilet paper?

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Yeah well we don't all live in a ridiculously hot place like Australia where I imagine you're caked in sweat just for merely existing there.

Yes, because everyone in the world doesnt adapt to their environment...

Uh what. Yeah they do nut it doesn't mean it doesn't still effect them. In Arizona people kept telling me to wear pants because it was cold at night. I wouldn't have if they'd have just left me alone. Arizona is very mild right now and I live in Michigan where it's pretty cold.

That said even if Australians are used to the heat in Arizona I did what I could to escape the 120 degree Fahrenheit days. I mean that like saying people get used to living in an artic research station and somehow magically don't get cold.I'm

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Have a friend who works retail, she told me someone bought 400 bucks worth of TP yesterday.

So of course I had to go down to my local grocery store and observe the chaos.

It actually wasn't so bad, only slightly more busy than I've usually seen it, and not the worst I'd ever seen it besides.

That said, the TP isle was completely barren.

Tellingly, the isle across from it was fully stocked with hand soap.

Same here - all forms of hand sanitizer and lysol wipes sold out, but the handsoap aisles seem mostly untouched.

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Have a friend who works retail, she told me someone bought 400 bucks worth of TP yesterday.

So of course I had to go down to my local grocery store and observe the chaos.

It actually wasn't so bad, only slightly more busy than I've usually seen it, and not the worst I'd ever seen it besides.

That said, the TP isle was completely barren.

Tellingly, the isle across from it was fully stocked with hand soap.

I'm baffled at the TP buy... why wouldnt you stock up on food. Why $400 worth?

tfw friends are buying ammo...

A local gun store ran a promotion where if you bought X amount of ammo, you also got two rolls of TP and a box of wipes!

Clever.

Not Online!!! wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Have a friend who works retail, she told me someone bought 400 bucks worth of TP yesterday.

So of course I had to go down to my local grocery store and observe the chaos.

It actually wasn't so bad, only slightly more busy than I've usually seen it, and not the worst I'd ever seen it besides.

That said, the TP isle was completely barren.

Tellingly, the isle across from it was fully stocked with hand soap.

It's not bloody dysentery...

I mean i sit on a bunker , but where the hell do you storage 400$ of toilet paper?

In your bank account

You buy it to stock up, wait until the shelves are empty, then you sell it at a markup and profit on the difference. If you trade locally you can even do it all cash-in-hand.

Even supermarket limits of "one or two per customer" can't always stop those eager to turn some money. They just get the whole family to drop in and buy in separate orders and go around and around a few shops and around the same shop going to different tills; trading in cash so that there's no number or ID trace possible. The limits mostly only stop casual overbuying; anyone determined to exceed can. Supermarkets aren't geared up to police things like that on their own. They might stop it now and then, but by and large they just aren't made to ration stock perfectly.

 Necros wrote:
So I live in the 1 (I think) Pennsylvania county that is shut down, and my boss is still making everyone come to work unless you have kids who are out of school (why don't dogs count as kids?). I told him I'm working from home starting monday. If it's a problem, I'll just take the time off. My fiance is a cancer survivor, i'm not risking bringing germs home to her. That and my commute is over an hour and I just don't wanna since I have a valid excuse

People at work are saying grocery stores were cleared out of everything from TP to sweet potatoes last night. And liquor stores are packed with people grabbing all the booze they can. We stocked up on the essentials last week luckily, so I'm gonna head to my local butcher tomorrow and get a bunch of meat since I need to restock anyway, and the lemmings don't even know they exist, and it's better than anything in the grocery stores. Gonna get a 4 pound pork belly, cuz times like these call for homemade bacon, just sucks that it takes a week to make it.

I work at a company that manufactures sterilization equipment, so we're not changing anything. I'm right in the middle of moving to my first house, so long as I can get to Sunday without major disruptions in travel from the Govt that'll all be done and sorted.

our company's policy is basically "no extra sick time/vacation time/working from home unless the government puts forth some sort of program" so I'm continuing to go to work I guess.

Tons of folks in the factory are out on unpaid sick time, so I assume we've mostly got it at this point unless that's just regular flu. I think we're at like "3/1,000,000 citizens tested" right now. Operations VP has "it's just a cold" in the office across the hall from me so I'm just trying to avoid him and disinfect as best I can.

yaaaaaay, america....

A friend alerted me to a place that’s flogging hand wash for £19.99. There’s calls for a boycott....serves them right too imo.

Especially since soap and water works better.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
A friend alerted me to a place that’s flogging hand wash for £19.99. There’s calls for a boycott....serves them right too imo.

Our county has a price gouger report site and maybe number. It cam across my FB feed earlier this week. I follow the county, city, out utility provider, fire department and sheriff over FB for local news, traffic updates and weather reports and all the local stuff like that. That's the biggest or second biggest thing I like about Face Book.

If any of you don't have groups like that it might be a good idea to try to get them started. We have forest fires, hurricanes, floods power outages wild dogs Bears and recently I have noticed a high number of road fatalities. I have a lot of COVID-19 updates and information coming across today. Looks like a lot of cancellations. Makes me wonder if we are having the county fair this month or not I haven't seen anything about that mentioned at all. With all the cancellations I doubt it will still happen this year.

I heard out local supermarket mad an announcement telling people to get a flue shot to prevent the coronavirus and this upset a lot of people as bad information. From what I have seen it's not correct but also not 100% wrong, just not right in the way they were expressing. I am not sure of most causes of death but I thought they were from other things like pneumonia, one knocks you down the other does you in. But I am probably incorrect, I haven't looked up on that in a week or two.

Has anyone ordered anything from Amazon in the US in the last week or two and if so were there any delays, longer than normal or longer than you expected? wondering if I missed my window, if so I will just wait.

We’ve ordered a couple things from Amazon and they arrived as timely as expected. We didn’t order TP, though.

We’re in earthquake country, so we had a month’s worth of supplies on hand before the outbreak, and have had little trouble supplementing that recently. Last weekend, TP and canned food were still plentiful. Hand sanitizer was all gone, but likely due to speculators buying it all out as we’d heard stories of people buying 75 squirt bottles in one trip last month.

I've just experienced the old empty toilet paper section with my weekly shop. I must say it annoyed me, not because I didnt get and paper (I just bought a box of mansize tissues instead, which there were tons of) but purely because of the sheer stupidity of humans and their dumb sheep thinking mentality.. if I (aswell as others of course) realise that stocking up on a LUXURY item is stupid, why cant others?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
We’ve ordered a couple things from Amazon and they arrived as timely as expected. We didn’t order TP, though.

We’re in earthquake country, so we had a month’s worth of supplies on hand before the outbreak, and have had little trouble supplementing that recently. Last weekend, TP and canned food were still plentiful. Hand sanitizer was all gone, but likely due to speculators buying it all out as we’d heard stories of people buying 75 squirt bottles in one trip last month.

I may place my order then. Not after any survival supplies. Although I may stock up on some supplements and order a strong multivitamin, couldn't hurt. I was looking at a clean suite but found this instead it's far more stylish. And I would but I've put on a lot of weight over the last 7 years.

https://images.halloweencostumes.com/products/40966/1-2/hannibal-lecter-kill-suit.jpg

 Future War Cultist wrote:
A friend alerted me to a place that’s flogging hand wash for £19.99. There’s calls for a boycott....serves them right too imo.

Why? if morons are willing to buy it, it makes sense to rinse them for it. GW do it and no-one bats an eye

It is not like coronavirus gives you the gaks anyway.

 Andrew1975 wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

 Andrew1975 wrote:

You can't get the same virus twice, well, you can but you are immune to it, thats how viruses work....you could get a different strain, but not the exact same one.

Thats absolutely not true. Just because you survive a disease once doesn't necessarily mean you are immune to it, virus or not. It just means you will have some level of resistance to it. Weather that is enough to be immune to it is dependent on many variables.

We've already had a few people come down with this very virus twice, so we know it can happen.

Patently false. When you defeat a virus you develop antigens, these stay in your body....usually forever, but in some rare instances its a matter of years, not days, not months...years. This is the whole reason vaccines work. They inject you with an inoculated version of the virus, your body fights it off an now you are protected. Now there are certain individuals whose bodies are unable to hold on to those antigens for very long, but they are few and far between, these are usually people with very compromised immune systems for one reason or another . Viruses can also mutate, but then its not the same virus, its a different strain. A normally healthy human will not get the same virus twice.

There were several healthy people who came down with the same strain twice in China. Its not a 100% thing, same with Vaccines. You can absolutely come down with the same virus twice even with a healthy immune system, its all about your specific situation. Vaccines do work on the principle of antigens sticking around for a long time, but its not absolute or foolproof. Vaccines do fail, not all antigens are permanent, etc...

Again, people have already caught Coronavirus twice and its not a different strain.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
A friend alerted me to a place that’s flogging hand wash for £19.99. There’s calls for a boycott....serves them right too imo.

Why? if morons are willing to buy it, it makes sense to rinse them for it. GW do it and no-one bats an eye

Because Warhammer miniatures are as essential as hand wash right now, amirite? You don't lose anything if you can't afford a miniature or think it's too pricey. You might lose everything if you can't properly keep your hands clean right now. That's the difference, and that's why people charging 20 bucks for hand wash are among the most despicable people on the planet right now while GW increasing prices is a mild case of corporate greed at worst.

 Kilkrazy wrote:


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In other virus news, a Japanese wife friend of my wife was sworn and spat at in Lidl for being oriental.

Some people really are vermin


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 warhead01 wrote:
I heard out local supermarket mad an announcement telling people to get a flue shot to prevent the coronavirus and this upset a lot of people as bad information. From what I have seen it's not correct but also not 100% wrong, just not right in the way they were expressing. I am not sure of most causes of death but I thought they were from other things like pneumonia, one knocks you down the other does you in. But I am probably incorrect, I haven't looked up on that in a week or two.

A flu shot won't do anything to protect you from corona virus, but, catching corona virus and the flu at the same time is probably going to be really bad news as both will be messing up your lungs so if you can get a flu shot and haven't yet it's a smart thing to do especially if your in an at risk group (lung problems, immune system problems, heart problems etc),

and as you say pneumonia is always up to joining in if your lungs are messed up and your immune system is stretched anyway

 Future War Cultist wrote:
A friend alerted me to a place that’s flogging hand wash for £19.99. There’s calls for a boycott....serves them right too imo.

Hey retailers... Want to catch Covid-19? Why not hike the price of soap to discourage people from proper hygiene!

Hm, I need to go to Costco and get a big box of waffles.

The university I go to shut down because of the virus. Right in what is probably the busiest period of the year. All of my exams have been cancelled.
While it is great that I now have extra time to work on my thesis, essays, portfolio and similar assignments, this does delay my study progress by quite a bit. I will probably have to keep working during the summer holiday now. Really pissed at that

While I understand the need to stop a contagious virus from spreading, I don't remember this kind of panic from the swine flu pandemic. Personally I think that people are overreacting a bit. Flu epidemics kill huge numbers of people across the world on a yearly basis (much more than this coronavirus), but people aren't freaking out about that either.

Well, at least I get to go home and spend time with my dad, which is something I don't do often enough. So that is a plus. And who knows, maybe I will even find time to get back into the hobby and do something about that massive pile of grey plastic stored in my room.


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 Future War Cultist wrote:
A friend alerted me to a place that’s flogging hand wash for £19.99. There’s calls for a boycott....serves them right too imo.

Aren't there laws against that kind of price gouging?

 Stevefamine wrote:

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Have a friend who works retail, she told me someone bought 400 bucks worth of TP yesterday.

So of course I had to go down to my local grocery store and observe the chaos.

It actually wasn't so bad, only slightly more busy than I've usually seen it, and not the worst I'd ever seen it besides.

That said, the TP isle was completely barren.

Tellingly, the isle across from it was fully stocked with hand soap.

I'm baffled at the TP buy... why wouldnt you stock up on food. Why $400 worth?

tfw friends are buying ammo...

It's my understanding that most paper products (TP, paper towels, tissues, etc.) and cleaning supplies sold throughout the world are manufactured in China or at the very least their packaging is made in China. It might be awhile until shelves are able to be restocked.

Swineflu had issues, but it more hit farming communities and colleges rather than the whole population at large. Its like birdflu in that because the vector is an animal it hits those who work with livestock first and hits those industries and communities most of all.

This virus is transmitted through humans so it hits the whole population rather than a subset (and predominantly rural subset).



Heck my father collected birds and has seen that whole hobby take two massive bird-flu hits and that closed down a lot of hobby collectors and such.
Meanwhile my brother got swine flu whilst at agricultural college - which put him in hospital along with pneumonia - which was what made it deadly. Again like Corna, its not so much the actual sickness, its other things that take advantage when your immune system is compromised.