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"The Archaeopter has been at the forefront of Adeptus Mechanicus expansion for millennia."

Oh I"M sorry, you didn't just find 20,000 in them in a secret vat designed by the emperor? We're just allowed to pull this card out again?

"nano-carbon fibre-weave"

"GW the fact that it has cloth wings is very silly" "NO! NO! They're SPECIAL CLOTH!"

I'm suddenly reminded of a line from the MST3K Movie:

"Increase the Flash Gordon noise and put more science stuff around!"

That about sums up GW's use of "nano-carbon fibre-weave".

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm suddenly reminded of a line from the MST3K Movie:

"Increase the Flash Gordon noise and put more science stuff around!"

That about sums up GW's use of "nano-carbon fibre-weave".

Maybe, but it seems one of the directions they took admech is the feth it we're making obsolete tech work by beating it into submission. The commonwealth was still using wood and fabric on frontline aircraft in WWII. Even many aircraft that were considered all metal actually used fabric for control surfaces because repair was so easy. Crew can't gain access to ammo on an aircraft? Yeah that's about right unless you want to wingwalk on your Spitfire.......I have no problem with more Flash Gorden out of Mars. Though it's not were I would have expected things to be if I had been asked 5 years ago.

To me it's more the Ork technology vibe. {Red/carbon nanoweave} makes this 'un go fasta!

Goodwin and Latham touched on that with the Voxcast they did awhile back. The premise seemed to be that "because SCIENCE!" wasn't a good enough answer, so they just added sciency words.

Voss wrote:
To me it's more the Ork technology vibe. {Red/carbon nanoweave} makes this 'un go fasta!

Yeah, because "nanocarbon fiber weave wings are flexible thus allowing variable geometry and increased flight control" is not way more likely that "it's faster because we think it is!'

I think you read the Ork vibes into it yourself.

Yes, we need more previews from admech. Yesterday, and today. This weird flying thing has already been shown, why the repeat ?? Must be because the 3 pages for daemons and chaos knights arent worth showing

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/30/reveals-from-the-warhammer-40000-open-daygw-homepage-post-1/

the_scotsman wrote:
"The Archaeopter has been at the forefront of Adeptus Mechanicus expansion for millennia."

Oh I"M sorry, you didn't just find 20,000 in them in a secret vat designed by the emperor? We're just allowed to pull this card out again?

"nano-carbon fibre-weave"

"GW the fact that it has cloth wings is very silly" "NO! NO! They're SPECIAL CLOTH!"

To be fair there have always been a variety of Ad Mech transports in the lore - the game is catching up rather than crowbaring them in like the mass dumping of the Marine flyers, centurions etc into the universe.

 p5freak wrote:
Yes, we need more previews from admech. Yesterday, and today. This weird flying thing has already been shown, why the repeat ?? Must be because the 3 pages for daemons and chaos knights arent worth showing

Or because this was the stuff intended to fill out a week's worth of articles?
Requisition Approved is likely the other half of what we would have gotten from yesterday's article. Add it with today's article and you can see where they likely had stuff split out.

You'll also notice that there has been nothing about Imperial Knights either, who likely would have shared a day with Chaos Knights. It shouldn't be any surprise or shock that Mechanicus are getting the lion's share of the attention though, because they are quite literally the faction with the most that will end up in the book. Techpriest Manipulus, both variants of the Skorpius, the three Flyer loaduouts, the Pteraxii, and the Serberys are about on par with the Vanguard releases for the Marines. They had also hinted that there was some kind of change coming for the army proper coming.

It's hard to be happy to see previews of stuff we've known about for months when there are three other factions in the book who's players would be happy to get any idea at all of what's coming.

...ok, "happy" may be the wrong word there.

You've known Daemons and Knights of both flavor are coming "for months" too.

Rules for these units (and the upcoming Archaeopter!) will be available in Engine War, the latest thrilling instalment in the Psychic Awakening series. This supplement will see the war for the Imperium’s soul kick into high gear, as Imperial Knights, Chaos Knights, the Adeptus Mechanicus and Daemons of Chaos battle amidst revelations of hidden sub-cults, twisted schemes and even more surprises…

That's from the Las Vegas Open.

We got the first preview for the Archaeopter back in November. You can wait a little bit longer, and it's worth mentioning we still don't actually have any solid info as to what these things actually do. We have no idea what AdMech are getting beyond these units and the ones that came out last summer(Skorpius and Manipulus Techpriest).

the_scotsman wrote:"The Archaeopter has been at the forefront of Adeptus Mechanicus expansion for millennia."

Oh I"M sorry, you didn't just find 20,000 in them in a secret vat designed by the emperor? We're just allowed to pull this card out again?

"nano-carbon fibre-weave"

"GW the fact that it has cloth wings is very silly" "NO! NO! They're SPECIAL CLOTH!"

you know formula one cars are made out of cloth too, and indy cars, and all McLaren road cars as well. Who knows, the mechanicus could've found a carbon nano-tube STC design, looked at a bird flying and said, 00101000101010010100101 and 2k yrs later out pops the Archeopter.

I happen to think the variable geometry (angle of attack, etc) on wings would give the thing pretty good maneuverability. Add in the fact that the pilot and any other "crew" are hard-wired, & you get a recipe for no "G" outs.

Voss wrote:
That flyer is going to have so many issues if later editions ever put firing arcs back in the game. Particularly the Stratoraptor- fixed forward flamery-things and a rear mounted main gun


Wait.. Why does the lascannon have a drum magazine?

Each is equipped with nano-carbon fibre-weave in the wings, making them as fast as they are agile. Let’s take a closer look at these magnificent flying machines.

... Yep. It isn't the engines that make them go faster, its the material composition of the wings. Wonder what would happen if you painted the wings red as well?

I think it is a typo and they meant "as agile as they are fast."

In all honesty, both types of knights could/should have been WD articles, they really don't need anything at this point. Interested to see what Daemons get though.

 bullyboy wrote:
In all honesty, both types of knights could/should have been WD articles, they really don't need anything at this point. Interested to see what Daemons get though.

Nah, We had books full of the same Marine reprinted dataslates again and again so if anything could have been dropped......

I was thinking Daemons would just get the usual Relic and a few starts etc but thought the same about Sisters and they have a whole new character team which was huge surprise.

You would think that given the PA title they would get something related to that but thats been pretty much ignored.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
In all honesty, both types of knights could/should have been WD articles, they really don't need anything at this point. Interested to see what Daemons get though.

Nah, We had books full of the same Marine reprinted dataslates again and again so if anything could have been dropped......

...it would be this broken record?

Or the carbon-nano fibre is a weight reduction thing, making them faster.

One of the reasons bats can pull flight manuevers that birds can't is they can change the shape of their wings in flight to a far greater extent,

so if these flyers can do similar they might plausibly be more agile than a standard flyer

 Dysartes wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
In all honesty, both types of knights could/should have been WD articles, they really don't need anything at this point. Interested to see what Daemons get though.

Nah, We had books full of the same Marine reprinted dataslates again and again so if anything could have been dropped......

...it would be this broken record?

Truth is truth -is it not. Why ask others to be missed out when that much space was wasted repeatedly.

Really looking forward to the new AD mech flyers - still not sure on the horses.

Good to see we can still find the angle to whinge about Marines in a book and release they're not involved in.

Never change Dakka.

Stay on topic please.

Racerguy180 wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:"The Archaeopter has been at the forefront of Adeptus Mechanicus expansion for millennia."

Oh I"M sorry, you didn't just find 20,000 in them in a secret vat designed by the emperor? We're just allowed to pull this card out again?

"nano-carbon fibre-weave"

"GW the fact that it has cloth wings is very silly" "NO! NO! They're SPECIAL CLOTH!"

you know formula one cars are made out of cloth too, and indy cars, and all McLaren road cars as well. Who knows, the mechanicus could've found a carbon nano-tube STC design, looked at a bird flying and said, 00101000101010010100101 and 2k yrs later out pops the Archeopter.

I happen to think the variable geometry (angle of attack, etc) on wings would give the thing pretty good maneuverability. Add in the fact that the pilot and any other "crew" are hard-wired, & you get a recipe for no "G" outs.

Yeah, this just screams light carbon fiber and aerogel to me. I like it.

I kinda think its machine spirit is made from an actual "bird" brain, like what was hinted @ w the Serbrys & Sulphurhounds.

Not gonna lie, the new AdMech stuff is definitely growing on me since the first reveal. It probably doesn't help that the model currently on my painting desk (and very last non-terrain model in my backlog) is a Dunecrawler which is more fun to paint than expected.

 Sentineil wrote:
Good to see we can still find the angle to whinge about Marines in a book and release they're not involved in.

Never change Dakka.

Actually if you bothered to read my post you would know that part of it was in response to the idea that Knights should not be in the book becuase "reasons".

I kinda think its machine spirit is made from an actual "bird" brain,

That would be fun -

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Sentineil wrote:
Good to see we can still find the angle to whinge about Marines in a book and release they're not involved in.

Never change Dakka.

Actually if you bothered to read my post you would know that part of it was in response to the idea that Knights should not be in the book becuase "reasons".

I kinda think its machine spirit is made from an actual "bird" brain,

That would be fun -

That would hilarious. Though, it would need a suitable grimdank twist. Powered by the clone brained of the now-extinct Ostrich, which experts believe once ruled the skies of Oldstralia.

Anyone hopeful of some non Admech previews for Engine War this coming week?

Ice_can wrote:
Anyone hopeful of some non Admech previews for Engine War this coming week?

I for sure would be interested to have some preview for the deamons but...

I mean, it's shocking that the faction which will have new kits to sell will get the first couple of preview articles - but it isn't like they got a full week, just two pieces, only one of which contained any new rules information.

I suspect there's one more AdMech preview article to come - talking about any non-model rules which will be coming - then it'll move to the rules-only factions.

The question really is how long are they going to need to spread out what would probably have just been a single week of previews in the "normal" world - one or two more weeks?

As many weeks as it takes to actually release Engine War and the associated models would be my guess.