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TV picks are allowed! Because I just allowed them.
My next pick? First. No comments about the wider film being massively historically inaccurate. I’m a Scot born and bred, so I’m perfectly aware of that, given I’ve a loose handle on my own culture.
Second? The most visceral pagga I have ever seen. Either in real life or the big screen.
Third. This isn’t some SNP type propaganda thing. Yes. All media is political, but my sharing of this is not political. It’s just a scene of incredibly well directed violence.
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I should probably find a scene from Se7en in response to this (because Se7en, one of the best films ever made imo, though I'm not exactly a film buff, won exactly zero Oscars and I think it's because Braveheart, nice enough film that it is, and one that I enjoyed and even rewatch sometimes, was released in the same year and won about fifty )
From what I remember, before Braveheart, sword and pike combat was usually portrayed in a fairly bloodless way. Braveheart made the violence much more visceral and brutal. If not for Braveheart, the battles in LOTR would have been very different.
Oh yeah, it was a good film. Very impressive, especially as a young teenager. And to be fair, it's not like Se7en had a load of nominations in categories that were won by Braveheart. I think I was just complaining that my favourite film ever got no awards in a year that an enjoyable, fairly cheesy film swept the board.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: From what I remember, before Braveheart, sword and pike combat was usually portrayed in a fairly bloodless way. Braveheart made the violence much more visceral and brutal. If not for Braveheart, the battles in LOTR would have been very different.
I'd say John Boorman's "Excalibur" was definitely an exception to that rule, it had some bloody medieval style combat.
"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..."
Whilst I dont care for elements of The Scottish Film I cant help but like the largely practical effects and sneaky camera tricks used as a fitting send off to that kind of film making before the CGI times...
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
Turnip Jedi wrote: Whilst I dont care for elements of The Scottish Film I cant help but like the largely practical effects and sneaky camera tricks used as a fitting send off to that kind of film making before the CGI times...
It’s definitely the practical effects that carry it.
Many of them were genuinely super simple. See someone get their lower leg or arm lopped off? Actor was a genuine amputee with a special prosthetic. This is enhanced by the pell mell pace of the scene. Lots of short bursts, building a scene of the anarchy of battle.
Guy that gets a mattock to the bonce? Head, padding, blood squib, helmet. Give it a wallop, and you’ve a really ‘orrible deff on screen. Just need to make sure the blood squib’s bag is super thin.
Very simple techniques, and the film is all the better for it. My favourite kill is when Gibson rides into the Laird’s room, and smashes his face in with a flail.
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I really enjoyed the rapid-cuts lead-in to the final attack in Red Cliff. A large cast in four different places watching the details of a convoluted but well-foreshadowed plan falling neatly into place, complete with a moment of glorious showboating out of Takeshi Kaneshiro.
I think the librarian hostage scene from Bronson is up there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_IphvasWo8 Incredibly NSFW for language and full frontal nudity (though if you were interested in what Tom Hardy is packing then your questions will be answered!)
Brief overview of Bronson's history in the spoiler:
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For those not familiar, Charlie Bronson (named after the actor, original name Michael Peterson, now goes by Charles Salvador after Dali who is one of his favourite artists) is known as Britain's most violent prisoner. He was originally arrested in 1974 for armed robbery and sentenced to seven years.
He managed to extend this sentence to 13 years through multiple acts of violence during his incarceration, which lead him to be declared insane and sent to psychiatric prisons, including Broadmoor. He was later declared sane after climbing onto the roof and causing a lot of damage by ripping up roof tiles and chucking them down onto the ground and moved back to prison and was released in 1987.
Following a brief stint as a bare knuckle boxer in London in 1988 he was again convicted of armed robbery and sent back to prison, where he has been ever since, spending a lot of that time in solitary confinement. He has been involved in countless acts of violence, including hostage taking.
Later in his life he became interested in art and started drawing. Many of his works were later sold to raise money for charities.
Anyway, onto the film and scene. The film itself is great. It was made on a tiny budget ($230k) and is basically an arthouse biopic, told to the viewer by Bronson himself from his own mind in which he is performing on a stage in an empty theatre. Definitely recommend it as Hardy's performance is phenomenal and the film wisely avoids trying to give any reason for why Bronson is the way he is. He just is.
The specific scene I've chosen is his taking the prison librarian hostage. Hardy's performance just captures this palpable aura of barely suppressed violence. The whole scene you're holding your breath as you know at any moment he could seriously hurt this man. Even when Hardy strips off and starts smearing butter over himself (in his words his body paint, his armour) isn't enough to fully deflate that tension.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
Easy E wrote: I actually really like the end scene in Sam Raimi's Spider-man, it is the epilogue but in the epilogue the Hero explains why he did not get the girl.
I remember being in the theater and being floored by the fact that a bug Hollywood movie did not have the hero get the girl at the end, damn the canon.
Sam Raimi's Spider-man and Spider-man 2 were fantastic-- he and Tobey MacGuire really captured the way's that being Spider-man ruined Peter Parker's life-- a continuing theme in Stan Lee's earliest work for Marvel.
That said this scene really makes the movie for me:
In particular, how tired, disheveled, terrified, and just not pretty the young mother looks. And then that long, lingering, slow zoom-in up on her face, as her panic mounts. Then the explosion, with Spidey barely making it out, and finally the mother's tearful thanks. I never get tired of this scene.
Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
Voss wrote: The parody film with the stuffed beaver in the chair was better.
One of the Naked Guns I think, can’t remember which.
It was in Loaded Weapon, recently rewatched it.
And two of my favorite scenes:
Inception
Spoiler:
Not one of the action set pieces or weird optical illusions, but the scene where Fischer is in the third level and opens the safe next to his father's deathbed. He gets out the pinwheel that was seen in his childhood photo and Cillian Murphy's acting in this scene is amazing. What he conveys without saying a single word, perfect.
And maybe somewhat surprising a scene from Aeon Flux (don't get why that movie got so much flak, it's a nice Sci-Fi-Action-Flick)
Spoiler:
The very last scene, after the twist is out and we know that everyone alive is just the millionth incarnation of themselves and that Aeon Flux and Goodchild were lovers. The movie jumps back to our present and we see both leaving after their first date and he turns, asking "Will I see you again?". Chills...
JWBS wrote: Not strictly cinema(? idk) but very cinematic, my favourite scene from anything ever is when Uncle Junior shoots Tony.
Just everything about this - the jaunty music humming along, Tony's desperate struggle for help and the camera angles, the pasta boiling on as Tony's life slips away, Junior's reaction during the attack and subsequently. This is peak cinematography.
I'd add the scene towards the end of the series, when Tony finally goes to see Junior and realises the extent of his mental decline. The emotion written all over Tony's face as he leaves is so raw, Gandolfini was immensely talented.
TBH, any scene with Uncle Junior was a highlight, he had some of the greatest lines in TV history.
”I know what you’re thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a . 44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?”
See that stuff above? Completely true. All of it, every single word. Stands to reason.
Maybe some will say this isn't a great scene, but I always thought it was.
Near the end of "Wizards" when avatar, the peace loving, anti technology and anti industry wizard defeats his evil warlord brother who is pro technology and industrial warfare by
Spoiler:
pulling out a concealed pistol and shooting him twice. Kinda hypocritical, yes, kinda anti climatic when we were expecting a grand duel of magic, but still one hell of a good scene.
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"But the universe is a big place, and whatever happens, you will not be missed..."
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Another NSFW violence scene. I promise I’m not being an Edgelord, I just like my horror and fighty films.
This time, it’s 28 Days Later, when our hero really encounters the reality of the new world he woke up in, and exactly what needs to be done to survive.
It’s brutal. It’s visceral. And yet? The actions are ultimately justified, though horrible. As a long term Zombie Movie Fan, this really elevated 28 Days Later for me. We see survivors with sense (yes I know they’re not Zombies, but it’s in that mould)
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