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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 15:35:30
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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RedNoak wrote:BrianDavion wrote:I definatly think Marines are going to feel like the small elite strike teams whom the mear presence of a hundred can change the course of a battle
...and a hundred you may have.
...given how cheap those "elite strike teams are"...
An "average" 1k list has 27-29 Primaris Marines in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 15:39:30
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Primaris upgrade. On a 1 the character just dies. That's some Warhammer Quest levels of "feth you" right there.
Love it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 16:02:29
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Quest For Atonement is the perfect blend of hilariously fluffy yet also mechanically interesting. It's precisely the sort of niche narrative tool that I had hoped Crusade would start leaning into for the individual Codex level installments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 16:21:47
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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Love that Necron characters can keep earning titles and can eventually have super long winded introductions. XD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 16:33:22
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Lieutenant General
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Codex: Necrons – New Crusade Rules on Warhammer Community (and more Necron photos - in a new paint scheme):
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 16:35:56
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Quite a striking colour scheme
Heart of woe for Necrons
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 16:39:09
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Lieutenant General
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It actually reminds me of the Sautekh paint scheme for Canopteks...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/09/30 17:01:38
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 16:54:49
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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"Attention Necron Warriors. You will each receive an identity glyph. Everything you do or learn will be imprinted on this glyph. If you lose your glyph, or fail to follow commands, you will be subject to immediate de-commissioning. That is all."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 16:59:31
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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gorgon wrote:"Attention Necron Warriors. You will each receive an identity glyph. Everything you do or learn will be imprinted on this glyph. If you lose your glyph, or fail to follow commands, you will be subject to immediate de-commissioning. That is all."
I wonder how many people are going to get that?
But otherwise, the automatic extra mortal wound trait sounds fun on like a Skorpekh Lord.
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 17:06:49
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I do not care for that scheme. Everything just kind of blends into an obscure blob of color.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 17:11:25
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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Mr_Rose wrote: gorgon wrote:"Attention Necron Warriors. You will each receive an identity glyph. Everything you do or learn will be imprinted on this glyph. If you lose your glyph, or fail to follow commands, you will be subject to immediate de-commissioning. That is all."
I wonder how many people are going to get that?
If I had to guess?
I'd say a metric gak-tron.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 17:12:14
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I don't get it but I get that its a reference. I just don't remember to what
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 17:16:42
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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Overread wrote:I don't get it but I get that its a reference. I just don't remember to what
I believe it is from Tron.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 17:20:57
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Ahh yes! Been years since I saw it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 18:04:16
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Wakshaani wrote: Mr_Rose wrote: gorgon wrote:"Attention Necron Warriors. You will each receive an identity glyph. Everything you do or learn will be imprinted on this glyph. If you lose your glyph, or fail to follow commands, you will be subject to immediate de-commissioning. That is all."
I wonder how many people are going to get that?
If I had to guess?
I'd say a metric gak-tron.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 18:05:18
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Manfred von Drakken wrote: Overread wrote:I'd still say leave it a few days before gathering questions for an FAQ - sometimes people just need a few days to actually think about something not just go with a confused gut reaction.
You must be new here.
Most reasonable people would apply common sense to such a situation. But this is Dakka Dakka, home to people who claimed you couldn't fire Assault weapons after Advancing.
Is the fault with players that can read english or gw writers who are incapable of writing it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 18:10:14
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Have we seen GW do bases like that before? That's some aftermarket resin level of debris there. Aren't their studio bases usually clean except for a few rocks and tufts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 18:52:09
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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gorgon wrote:"Attention Necron Warriors. You will each receive an identity glyph. Everything you do or learn will be imprinted on this glyph. If you lose your glyph, or fail to follow commands, you will be subject to immediate de-commissioning. That is all."
Warrior! Come back with your glyph. Or on it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 19:14:20
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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The marines nerfs are quite heavy from the leaks of a guy with the codex...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 19:26:50
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Terrifying Doombull
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What are the leaks from 'a guy?'
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 19:27:08
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Freaky Flayed One
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KurtAngle2 wrote:The marines nerfs are quite heavy from the leaks of a guy with the codex...
Any links to such information?
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The Qarnakh Dynasty - Starting Again From scratch...Once again
kirotheavenger wrote:People like straws, and they're not willing to give any up even as the camel begins to buckle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 19:38:44
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Yeah, this is new, I haven't heard anything about leaks from dude with dexes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 19:40:48
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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tneva82 wrote: Manfred von Drakken wrote: Overread wrote:I'd still say leave it a few days before gathering questions for an FAQ - sometimes people just need a few days to actually think about something not just go with a confused gut reaction.
You must be new here.
Most reasonable people would apply common sense to such a situation. But this is Dakka Dakka, home to people who claimed you couldn't fire Assault weapons after Advancing.
Is the fault with players that can read english or gw writers who are incapable of writing it?
Well right now I'd say more players than GW at present. So far things like "all shots within 18 inches are doubled" is pretty easy to understand. It's just players wishing it was "all shots within 18 inches are doubled and all ranges increased to 18inches). The language GW used was very clear, it doesn't really need clarification. The interaction players are thinking of just hasn't got any basis to happen.
Reanimation Protocols on its first day being exposed had the same thing with people thinking you rolled at all kinds of odd moments.
I'm fully willing to say that GW needs it write better, but so far the Necrons have been written well; one part is on players to read what is written.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 19:46:48
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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- Honor the Chapter stratagem is now restricted to assault intercessors only
-There's a new stratagem that states: if your warlord is alive in the command phase of your turn, select a unit (dont think its restricted to core) and that unit is treated as having all doctrines active.
- Thunder hammers are a flat 20pts regardless if equipped to a character or non-character. and now they are -2ap not -3 (3 dmg still)
- Scouts are elites
- Whirlwind bombardment strat stops units in defensive positions from getting that benefit and makes them fight last in the fight phase. 1cp
- Master of sanctity upgrade was either 20 or 25pts (cant remember exactly)
- Chapter master is 40pts and CM picks one unit in the command phase to get full rerolls. The captain reroll 1's aura is active otherwise
- Not all non primaris marines characters are getting the +1 wound too....Centurions remain at 4 wounds. Terminators, bikes etc DID get +1 wound though
- There WERE army restrictions for the 3 odd chapters in the book (DA SW DW)
- Wisdom of the Ancients strat was changed to have 2 options for the aura provided (either reroll 1s to hit or reroll 1s to wound)
- Deathwatch seems to have lost special ammo and cant take bike squads oddly
- Hellfire stratagem is back but it also deals 2d3 dmg to monsters
- Flakk missiles deals 2d3 dmg to fliers
- There werent many "new" strats iirc
- The Reaper variant of the new floaty tank came to 230pts (without useless upgrades)
- Theres a melta bomb stratagem that deals 2d3 MW in CC (to a vehicle or monster), 1 or 2 cp, unsure
- The Hammer of Wrath stratagem got a bit of a rework and improved quite a bit I think MWs dealt by rolling equal to or higher than enemy units toughness. Number of dice equal to number of models in engagement range (i think)
- Outriders are 3 per unit Erads and BGVs are 3-6
- BGVs and Erads are 35pts and 40pts respectively
- There was a strat for reuplsors to fall back and shoot at full BS
- The SM-only secondary objectives were all awful
- Incursors lost their combat knives exploding on 6s to hit in cc (are ap-1)
- Blood Angel assault squads cant take meltaguns anymore
- More stuff that I thought seem to have the CORE keyword. Exmaple of what dont: Centurions and Invictor warsuits
- Transhuman was there and appears to be the same
- There was a strat for phobos units to be put into reserves from the battlefield
- Non codex chapters do appear to get access to all the marine psychic powers and warlord traits and relics
- Speed of the Primarch was mentioned as the Blood Angel- only WL trait in the dex (fight first on wl)
- Only in death does duty end got nerfed can only use it if you havent already fought in the fight phase
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 19:57:52
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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Intreasting stuff there Kurt. Any changes to how Doctrines work or the Doctrines themselves?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 20:20:35
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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KurtAngle2 wrote:The marines nerfs are quite heavy from the leaks of a guy with the codex...
Cite. Your. Source. With. Links.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 20:26:03
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Curious about the new Heavy Intercessors points if they have them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 20:45:12
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Well, if there is more or even if it is real, its slow moving.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 20:46:20
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Not gonna lie. Those don't really sound like nerfs. A little more restrictive but I feel like it's not going to impact a lot of the current lists. And if bladeguard and eradicators didn't bump in points those are central units. I think we all saw toned down rerolls coming.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/30 20:49:42
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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Yeah I’m not really seeing nerfs. Any more leaks yet?!?
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