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Weeeeeeeee

Some restrictions were lifted and I got to spend the weekend playing a bit with my printers

Firstly, I prepped a full Alpha Legion tactical company, as defined in Imperius Dominatus, just in case ^^:



I also printed a boatload of terminators and MkIV assault troops (I didn't take pics, but you'll see them soon enough

I also finally found some crews for my basilisks:



...and they brought friends xD



Also printed some jetbikes that I'm gonna use for the Alphas:



...using translucent resin!



(OK, it's what I had. But still)

Lastly, I found all my SM sprues and unpainted plastics:



Seeing as the regular plastic SM are ridiculously small (they are smaller than IG, FFS), I'm thinking about using them as squats or something.

They are quite titchy, yeah

Good for casualties or statues, though.

Lovely stuff Albertorius! Those jet bikes came out great.

Haha I like the idea of using the old SM marines as Squats (they are so small!) Although at least you can imagine them fitting in the old plastic Rhinos

I've used them as recon/scout marines for my force.

It’s payday, and there was a complete set of Epic Space Marine on eBay.

Knocked them down from £150 to £125, and it should be with me soon.\

Friend is likely to be getting a resin printer soon too, so fingers crossed we can get cracking with armies.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s payday, and there was a complete set of Epic Space Marine on eBay.

Knocked them down from £150 to £125, and it should be with me soon.\

Friend is likely to be getting a resin printer soon too, so fingers crossed we can get cracking with armies.

Nice! I'm a bit jealous of your purchase tbh - Hope you'll dig it sir!

And Albertorius keeps knocking it out of the park, as usual.. You're really making me want to get into all that 3D printing stuff hehehe

The right mix of patience, opportunity and the right sized pocket.

Sadly, Titan Legions is a rather different proposition. Complete copies can be had, but not for a small price. And because the Looting ethos runs deep, even if I found a cheapo version, I’d be more likely to tell the seller exactly what it is they’ve got on their hands.

Perhaps June, when I get my annual bonus. Got nothing else planned in terms of spending for it.

Hi,
I got my hands on the 3rd edition of epic 40k and I am struggling to build an army list for imperial guards.
From what I understood the main detachment is 1 to 3 command squads. Then I can choose up to 3 squads per command squad, which can be imperial guards squads, heavy weapons or rough riders.

So for example in the same detachment card, I can have:
Command squad + 3 Imperial guard squads
Command squad + 3 heavy weapons
Command squad + 3 rough riders
After that choose upto 10 support units.
Is this correct?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks

That is why we just use index 8th edition instead. it is way easier to set up and play.

Gortooh wrote:
Hi,
I got my hands on the 3rd edition of epic 40k and I am struggling to build an army list for imperial guards.
From what I understood the main detachment is 1 to 3 command squads. Then I can choose up to 3 squads per command squad, which can be imperial guards squads, heavy weapons or rough riders.

So for example in the same detachment card, I can have:
Command squad + 3 Imperial guard squads
Command squad + 3 heavy weapons
Command squad + 3 rough riders
After that choose upto 10 support units.
Is this correct?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Well, almost: you can choose up to 3 Main Force units per each Command Squad you purchase, but you can only choose RRs if you select at least one RR Command Squad.

Also, you can'y choose more Support units than the number of Main Force units you chose, so the actual limit is 9 units, not 10.

This might be useful, too:

https://ijw.on-rev.com/armyforge_temp/index_e40k.html


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 aphyon wrote:
That is why we just use index 8th edition instead. it is way easier to set up and play.

It is easier, yes, but in my experience it's also more limiting.

Taking a peek at my epic rulebook it seems to be the opposite. the old epic rules were even more abstract compared to 8th, i like that little extra bit of detail of actually doing damage to units rather than just making them "break" and run via blast markers and single rolls for entire units to shoot , fight etc...

This is why I favour the 2nd Ed card system.

Start with a company card. Each of those allows a Special Card and up to 6 detachments.

Each card shows you the constituent stands/models required. No muss, no fuss. Points value on the card.

I know some might consider the company cards limiting, and fair enough. But it’s a system I adore to this day.

It’s also super useful for planning an army, whether shopping second hand or going down the 3D printed proxy route.

Other opining are valid and available.

 aphyon wrote:
Taking a peek at my epic rulebook it seems to be the opposite. the old epic rules were even more abstract compared to 8th, i like that little extra bit of detail of actually doing damage to units rather than just making them "break" and run via blast markers and single rolls for entire units to shoot , fight etc...

Personally I like the extra abstraction on resolution. You are also doing actual damage to units, not just making them break, but for me Epic is all about the "being a general" experience, and I find that micro managing all and every single unit's weapons throws me off that feeling.

Aditionally, that abstraction helps in allowing you you personalize your detachments much more without needing to fuss about much with specific rules on the same detachment. I always loved being able to "port" my 40k armies into Epic detachment, and it helped immensely for campaigns, too.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
This is why I favour the 2nd Ed card system.

Start with a company card. Each of those allows a Special Card and up to 6 detachments.

Each card shows you the constituent stands/models required. No muss, no fuss. Points value on the card.

I know some might consider the company cards limiting, and fair enough. But it’s a system I adore to this day.

It’s also super useful for planning an army, whether shopping second hand or going down the 3D printed proxy route.

Other opining are valid and available.

That is the way used on Imperius Dominatus, although the sheer scale there is kinda imposing.


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 aphyon wrote:
That is why we just use index 8th edition instead. it is way easier to set up and play.

I was wondering... when you say "8th" you mean 40k 8th edition, for Epic army building?

Yes, our group directly uses index 8th edition for all army builds and rules, just halving all ranges for weapons and movement. we also don't use any stratagems other than the base 3 in the original index rulebook (usually the occasional re-roll for charges etc..)

This allows all the units to retain their feeling and dynamic performance, because the original 8th edition index rules are so streamlined it works well with epic scale.

Take for instance i have a stand of 6 inceptors when i take wounds on the unit (18 wounds total) i keep a tracking dice next the base and every time i loose 3 wounds i have 1 less marine to work with. so instead of firing 36 assault heavy bolter shots at 9" range i only fire 30 with 3 wounds gone since only 5 inceptors are actually left.

That's what is happening when i post battle report pics like these with the dice wound counters.

Interesting, I might have to test it sometime

Finishing up the Air Support:

I always did love the storm eagle, have one in full scale(what a nightmare kit) and 2 of the vanguard versions in epic scale.

 aphyon wrote:
I always did love the storm eagle, have one in full scale(what a nightmare kit)

What, you don't enjoy building a straight rectangle out of 4 bananas?

Cracking work on those aircraft Albertorius. Nice job on the hazard stripes as well, I looked closely but could see no errors!

I agree with MDG I like the simplicity of SM 2nd edition and the way armies are built, by extension NetEpic and Imperius Dominatus too. ID does have some pretty mental formations available (I forget the Grand Company size in terms of marines - is it something like 300 marine on 60 stands?) but you can do normal marine company sizes.

One thing I think was better in first edition SM was the cool little bit of artwork you had on some of the cards. I have seen a few people in the FG groups converting these for 2nd edition, although I think it works better with the classic minis from that era, as much of the more modern sculpts from Vanguard or 3D prints that look like the Forge World minis don't look like the cool little Beakie minis on the cards.

About to dive in with 2nd edition SM/NetEpic Orks - watch this space

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 aphyon wrote:
I always did love the storm eagle, have one in full scale(what a nightmare kit)

What, you don't enjoy building a straight rectangle out of 4 bananas?

Yeah i had to use a literal heat gun for use with shrink wrap at our FLGS to get the sides straight and even then there were places that needed gap filling. i would have been happier if they had just cast it as a solid chunk of resin.

FW resin tends to be worse the more expensive the kit is xD

And my “about as mint as can be expected” copy of Space Marine has arrived!

Not a single infantryman snapped, dinged or damaged.

Perfect.

 Albertorius wrote:
FW resin tends to be worse the more expensive the kit is xD

My hound and reaver were fine :p
Hybrid resin and plastic kits are just cursed.
They really are a nightmare as they always need a ton of work.

I always help a friend of mine with his larger FW kits but the eagle was a flat no can do.
Having assembled a few of them already I’m not ready to re-live that trauma again just yet.



Epic wise, I’ll get some pics of my tyranids shortly.
Started work on the swarm again and progress is moving.
Just a shame that the guy who was selling them pushed his luck and got an eBay ban.
Ideally need some epic scale zoanthropes and then I need to work on the smaller bugs.

Ideally need some epic scale zoanthropes and then I need to work on the smaller bugs.

You rang?





https://www.onslaughtmini.com/25-xenomites

https://www.onslaughtmini.com/26-classic-miniatures

 aphyon wrote:

Ideally need some epic scale zoanthropes and then I need to work on the smaller bugs.

You rang?





https://www.onslaughtmini.com/25-xenomites

https://www.onslaughtmini.com/26-classic-miniatures

The vicinids I have on order already.
The other though would be a good neurothrope, but I want to try and keep it as close as I can to the current range.
I have someone test sing a few files at the moment.

Those Onslaught minis are so cool. I've had a Squat (or Grudd as they label them) army in the basket there for ages now, just need to work out which system I will use them with and commit!

Jackal90 wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
FW resin tends to be worse the more expensive the kit is xD

Epic wise, I’ll get some pics of my tyranids shortly.
Started work on the swarm again and progress is moving.
Just a shame that the guy who was selling them pushed his luck and got an eBay ban.
Ideally need some epic scale zoanthropes and then I need to work on the smaller bugs.

If it's the person I'm aware of, they disappear for a while and then will come back again at some point (think that has happened at least 2 or 3 times now - I don't know how long it will happen before he gets an account ban though!)

 Pacific wrote:
Those Onslaught minis are so cool. I've had a Squat (or Grudd as they label them) army in the basket there for ages now, just need to work out which system I will use them with and commit!

Jackal90 wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
FW resin tends to be worse the more expensive the kit is xD

Epic wise, I’ll get some pics of my tyranids shortly.
Started work on the swarm again and progress is moving.
Just a shame that the guy who was selling them pushed his luck and got an eBay ban.
Ideally need some epic scale zoanthropes and then I need to work on the smaller bugs.

If it's the person I'm aware of, they disappear for a while and then will come back again at some point (think that has happened at least 2 or 3 times now - I don't know how long it will happen before he gets an account ban though!)

The guy I know was Cornwall based.
He sent me a message in the post as he only had my address to explain he’d been sent a C&D letter for IP infringement.

There are a few others on eBay though.
One guy loads his shop up at 7pm Saturday then removes it all again at midnight, so it’s a 5 hour window each week to see what’s new and grab it.





This is where the swarm is at now.
The harridan is just a place holder though as it’s not a great conversion.

Trigger pulled on Hive War.

Across two eBay listings, got a complete set coming.

Other than Titan Legions and anything in White Dwarf (think that includes the Slaaneshi Titans and maybe Nurgle Daemon Engines?) that’s pretty much everything rules wise I need.

Very excited!

Awesome - have you put paintbrush to miniature yet ?

Not so far. Gonna blitz my massive, teetering pile of Zone Mortalis gubbins this week.

Forgot to add this one, for those who like the classic boxy warlord titan nuclear shrimp from greece sells them in epic scale.


https://ns-games.com/product/warbringer-maximus-6mm-scale/