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Besides being an updated version of the original HeroQuest, they already have plans for two new adventure books/quests: "Prophecy of Telor" and "Spirit Queen's Torment" - orcs as allies/heroes apparently. Two new heroes: Warlock and Druid. Info posted in the Guest Designers section.

I wish it told us more about the people it names instead of acting like we know them. Not everyone knows who every person is so it might have been nice to give a bit more than "Guest Designer". What have they done before that makes their name drop worthwhile?

A: Tadpole designed by Bob Loblaw!

B: Who is Bob Loblaw?

A: BOB LOBLAW! He picked a tadpole because he likes swimming!


I know you can Google them but if you are going to use them in a sales pitch I feel like I shouldn't have to. May just be me. Not a deal breaker mind you I'm still backing it, just a bit of a pet peeve I suppose.

It's very clearly a licensing thing, maybe they can't say anything because of some corporate lawyery bullcrap, but if they could make it worldwide then they certainly would since it's just money left lying on the floor otherwise.

Remember the Gamezone Heroquest crowdfund kerfluffle of 2014? They had the rights to release in Spain, and ONLY in Spain, so it got sent to Cease-&-Desist hell for copyright infringement, bounced around multiple crowdfund sites, and finally funded on some small unknown platform and nothing ever got released because every single owner of the copyright in every other country sued or threatened to sue.

Should be pretty obvious after that why this time it's limited to NA only. Heck, wouldn't surprise me if Gamezone still had the rights to HQ in Spain and was keeping it from Hasbro out of spite

As an alternative has anyone mentioned Bardsung in this thread? its coming to KS here shortly, maybe with in this 45 day window to review both?

Gah its so frustrating! I really do want it but I can't justify the ridiculous shipping. Its just straight cheaper for me to build my own board using Dwarven Forge tiles, and those aren't really cheap either.

Nostalgia just cost me $191.24 after shipping and tax and I am thrilled. HeroQuest was my first intro to dungeon delving and 30 years later I’m looking forward to trying it with my kids.

Now I just have to hope enough other people are willing to back this!

Mariongodspeed wrote:
Nostalgia just cost me $191.24 after shipping and tax and I am thrilled. HeroQuest was my first intro to dungeon delving and 30 years later I’m looking forward to trying it with my kids.

Now I just have to hope enough other people are willing to back this!

NOSTALGIA FOR ALL ME TEEF!

Don't know whether this has been posted Here already but German News Site Brückenkopf-Online contacted Hasbro and received information that HeroQuest should be available in Europe propably in 2022...

SKR.HH wrote:
Don't know whether this has been posted Here already but German News Site Brückenkopf-Online contacted Hasbro and received information that HeroQuest should be available in Europe propably in 2022...

https://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/2020/hero-quest-relaunch-nur-in-nordamerika/

Will that's good news I've waited this long what's 2 more years

Huh. Wonder if that means Hasbro has bought the licenses for HeroQuest in Europe, but doesn't take effect until 2022 or something silly like that.

Honestly had no idea how much it seems the HQ license is fractured between the previously failed crowdfunding projects since I really hadn't followed them.

Will keep an eye on this for sure, since I only ever got to play HQ a few times when I was very young, and am excited to see that this game is really just a refresher of it.

Considering that it sounds like its normal for that platform to ignore the European market it might just be that its a company/wing of the company that just hasn't got the internal organisation to ship out of the USA; and makes healthy enough profits that they don't want to learn/invest into it.

Which would also explain the insanely high Canadian postage costs.


It's surprising considering how many smaller firms - as noted earlier - can achieve international postage of a product often with far far far less of a powerful name behind them; on the product and less money in the funding.

Chopxsticks wrote:As an alternative has anyone mentioned Bardsung in this thread? its coming to KS here shortly, maybe with in this 45 day window to review both?

Hard pass for anything from SFG after Dark Souls.

NH Gunsmith wrote:Huh. Wonder if that means Hasbro has bought the licenses for HeroQuest in Europe, but doesn't take effect until 2022 or something silly like that.

Honestly had no idea how much it seems the HQ license is fractured between the previously failed crowdfunding projects since I really hadn't followed them.

Will keep an eye on this for sure, since I only ever got to play HQ a few times when I was very young, and am excited to see that this game is really just a refresher of it.

Sounds more like a direct to retail release and just takes time until then to produce.

 The Phazer wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
The social media for this release is 90% people moaning about it not being available outside the US/Canada (with a portion of that people complaining about the Canada postage costs - delivery by goblin-drawn cart I take it for that price?)

So any positive hype around this game is drowned in the complaints. I don't understand why they don't add something to the FAQ or a comment as to why the game is not being released internationally? Something like "we can't because x" or " very sorry fans outside of NA, the game will come to you eventually on xxx". They must have known the backlash it would have received.

That happens with everything Haslab and Hasbro Pulse does, and they never address it.

It's not unique to HeroQuest tbh.

They dont want to dick around with distribution hubs, licensing, etc. I don't blame them. Haslab products arent there to make the big bucks. They're more for projects that arent deemed commercially viable at retail, but someone there has a passion for, or to throw the high end collectors a bone.

 Hanskrampf wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:As an alternative has anyone mentioned Bardsung in this thread? its coming to KS here shortly, maybe with in this 45 day window to review both?

Hard pass for anything from SFG after Dark Souls.

NH Gunsmith wrote:Huh. Wonder if that means Hasbro has bought the licenses for HeroQuest in Europe, but doesn't take effect until 2022 or something silly like that.

Honestly had no idea how much it seems the HQ license is fractured between the previously failed crowdfunding projects since I really hadn't followed them.

Will keep an eye on this for sure, since I only ever got to play HQ a few times when I was very young, and am excited to see that this game is really just a refresher of it.

Sounds more like a direct to retail release and just takes time until then to produce.

What went wrong with Dark Souls?

It was very (main game), very slow (expansions) to fulfil with poor coms

(and many didn't like the gameplay which was very grindy and repetitive, but for me reproduced the video game feel pretty well)


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It was very (main game), very slow (expansions) to fulfil with poor coms

(and many didn't like the gameplay which was very grindy and repetitive, but for me reproduced the video game feel pretty well)

Fair enough. I played Kingdom Death Monster so wasnt terribly interested in Dark Souls and never liked the video game. Slow to fullfill is concerning, I thought they had their stuff together with guildball and all.

Chopxsticks wrote:
Fair enough. I played Kingdom Death Monster so wasnt terribly interested in Dark Souls and never liked the video game. Slow to fullfill is concerning, I thought they had their stuff together with guildball and all.

Guild ball? You mean the game they just canned and blamed the players for playing their "perfect game" wrong? There's still people who haven't got all their dark souls stuff, and SFG's communications are awful.

 DaveC wrote:

SKR.HH wrote:
Don't know whether this has been posted Here already but German News Site Brückenkopf-Online contacted Hasbro and received information that HeroQuest should be available in Europe propably in 2022...

https://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/2020/hero-quest-relaunch-nur-in-nordamerika/

Will that's good news I've waited this long what's 2 more years

Good news if true, in that case I would really love that we could also get somehow the alternative heroes, Mentor, Sir Ragnar, The Witch Lord ..

Esper wrote:

 DaveC wrote:

SKR.HH wrote:
Don't know whether this has been posted Here already but German News Site Brückenkopf-Online contacted Hasbro and received information that HeroQuest should be available in Europe propably in 2022...

https://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/2020/hero-quest-relaunch-nur-in-nordamerika/

Will that's good news I've waited this long what's 2 more years

Good news if true, in that case I would really love that we could also get somehow the alternative heroes, Mentor, Sir Ragnar, The Witch Lord ..

Those are exclusive to the crowd funding campaign.

And so far the alternate sculpts/genders are exclusive to hasbro pulse (so probably available when you buy via the website post release).

 Pacific wrote:
Some quite funny memes doing the rounds

Amusingly, several expansions for original heroquest were region locked and never crossed the Atlantic.

Hah! Do you think it's just the Americans getting their own back on the Brits then? (with other RoW locations unfortunately as collateral damage..)

It's the complete lack of explanation (attempt to explain) or acknowledgement to the huge morass of complaining people that I don't acceptable, and I think probably annoys me more... . At least say why you aren't doing something or give some kind of inkling of what might happen in the future. It's reminiscent of GW's 'summer of terror' in the early 2010's when they seemed intent on being as disregarding and dismissive of the fans as possible.

In the meantime I see the Dungeon Universalis KS (for a game reprint) is due to be starting later on today. Know it's completely the opposite of Heroquest in terms of aspect but it might be an alternative (and one that's available).

Not much use acknowledging the complaints if all you can say is

sorry but we don't want the extra hassle of 'selling' world wide

it's just going to annoy people who can't get it more

now whether there is a another reason why Hasbro Pulse is USA only (well and very reluctantly Canada) I'm not sure,

I could see there being issues with existing distribution deals elsewhere in the world such that they wouldn't be able to make their desired margin and that might be information they didn't want to, or couldn't contractually reveal

but really might be just that they don't want the hassle

I can't see that posting abroad/internationally could be the issue. I've worked in places (and this is going back twenty years) where it was really, really straightforward to a) essentially put something in a box b) organise a shipping manifest for wherever it needs to go.
These days it's ridiculously easy, not only because of trade agreements that have made such things more straightforward, but you have companies that handle all that stuff for you as part of their standard processes. There are literally dozens of companies, which we will be familiar with globally, that do this.

The only time I know of any difficulty was in trying to send items to Iran, which I believe had some kind of embargo at the time (and you had to prove that the mechanical components you were sending were just for tractors and couldn't be used to make a bomb).

I think it's more likely that it's some kind of license/legal implication (perhaps based on something to do with that abortive Gamezone effort, who knows) or they don't want to have to translate into different languages. That was apparently the reason a lot of text-heavy video games didn't used to get released outside Japan, because a translation into English meant French, Spanish, Italian, German as a minimum and all of that costs money.

But anyway it is all conjecture and honestly ultimately it's a boardgame, who cares, they can go feth themselves over the angst they have caused thousands of international customers who had the audacity to want to try and buy their product, and are now getting frustrated that it's not possible and not being told why

 Pacific wrote:
Hah! Do you think it's just the Americans getting their own back on the Brits then? (with other RoW locations unfortunately as collateral damage..)

That would require most Americans remembering we were ever at odds. Britain is just that place we keep our airbases, the one with the bad food

I'm sorry but you haven't lived until you've had a curry battered bun.

Having calmed down over the last few days...

I suppose given the current crisis, it makes sense to keep it to the States and Canada. There is the possibility that when it comes time to ship that the covid situation may halt shipping to other countries.

Even still, I've not been this disappointed since Billie failed to make the top 20...

SamusDrake wrote:
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I suppose given the current crisis, it makes sense to keep it to the States and Canada. There is the possibility that when it comes time to ship that the covid situation may halt shipping to other countries.

It has nothing to do with Covid, Jabba's Sail Barge(their first HasLab project years ago) and Unicron(Last Year's project) were NA only as well. Thus just how HasLab is. IIRC, it has something to do with how their international subsidiary companies work, but they've never actually explained how or why.

Also, if shipping between countries is stopped, they won't be able to deliver at all since their factories are in Vietnam and China.

Good points.

But... Hasbro has said they will ship beyond US/Canada... From just a few posts above: https://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/2020/hero-quest-relaunch-nur-in-nordamerika/ (translation: bully for you if you don't live in NA)

Just after the initial North American shipments go out.

I don't pretend to understand why they're doing it this way, but it sounds like it will eventually make its way 'round the world.

Is there a brief history of why international HeroQuest rights are so messed up?