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creeping-deth87 wrote: That was a much weaker episode than the first two. Breaking Zemo out was wayyyy too easy, as was getting Sharon's help. She was clearly very embittered toward Falcon and Bucky but then was like Mmmm K fine, I'll help you. They needed to offer her a way back home before she agreed to give them a hand, and even then... how the hell is Sam gonna do that? She would have wanted the details before agreeing.
This episode felt like it was trying to do way too much at once. I may have to give it another watch to make sure I caught everything.
In Age of Ultron they had a picture of Zemo in military uniform and said he was a colonel in some Sokovian special forces unit, so it’s not a total surprise he can fight; the wealth was more surprising to me than that.
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
I think it's probably safe to say that Sharon was NOT gone in the snap, giving her opportunity to have the time and space to set up her life the way she did.
So, as people appear in the show, they get added to the credits. It seems there are another 3 characters still to be introduced - "Missing/Lost in the blip" poster, purple sword and French writing "enemy of the state" poster, GRC courtyard with football and chairs.
Paper over the top of Bucky's control words just got revealed.
Spoiler:
something is really off about Sharon. I wouldn't be surprised if she was the power broker. And she makes it seems like she wasn't the one who shot the fence, but then who did?
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I think that the new Cap or Battlestar will be those who helped them from the shadows. They're pretty explicit about wanting to follow/use them to track the serum/Flagsmashers
I can't condone a place where abusers and abused are threated the same: it's destined to doom, so there is no reason to participate in it.
I think that the new Cap or Battlestar will be those who helped them from the shadows. They're pretty explicit about wanting to follow/use them to track the serum/Flagsmashers
Spoiler:
I figure the Power Broker had it done to eliminate a competitor and flush the gang out into a desperation move, and that Sharon is his minion. Its honestly a little to subtle for new Cap.
Of course that also means they ran into a fake scientist, or that the scientist couldn't replicate the serum again for some reason. But honestly the scientist's explanation seemed way too easy anyway: 'Oh, I just figured out how to do something that eluded the greatest minds in the last 70-odd years. No big.'
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AduroT wrote: Zemo is weird to me because in the movie came across as a totally different guy than what I’ve seen previous in comics and shows. He didn’t fight or anything, he just did a little behind the scenes manipulation con job, kind of a nerdy little bum. Now here it’s suddenly Wait you were rich this whole time? With the private jet and butler and his fancy fur collared coat, kicking arse in a fight and being all intimidating. Like his performance was great, it’s just a very abrupt shift in character from Winter Soldier it felt like, to one that more aligns with his comic self.
And because he's not stupid, be knew that getting into a fight with any of the Avengers was going to go badly wrong - so he didn't. Not his fault the Avengers don't surround themselves with goons he could beat up to show his skills.
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I hope not, but I despise Kang. He's just a walking plot device that gets used to try and fix continuity more than an interesting character. Granted, the MCU has proven its ability to revamp such things into something far greater than their source material, but... meh. I think anything they could do with Kang would be better served by Von Doom.
I actually hate all things time travel related and find it a lazy out of writing. Now that it is a "thing" in MCU, the question always is going to be "Why not fix it by going back in time?".
Then, it causes more headaches and writing issues than it really solves.
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Easy E wrote: Kang the Conqueror better be the next Thanos-level threat.
LunarSol wrote: I hope not, but I despise Kang. He's just a walking plot device that gets used to try and fix continuity more than an interesting character.
Easy E wrote: Kang the Conqueror better be the next Thanos-level threat.
LunarSol wrote: I hope not, but I despise Kang. He's just a walking plot device that gets used to try and fix continuity more than an interesting character.
Kang will be in the next Ant-Man movie.
Right, but being in a movie and being the next Thanos are VERY different things.
The multiverse is a massively useful plot device to explain real life recasts, character resurrection etc, from a purely logistical pov it makes a huge amount of sense to establish it within the continuity without needing a big bad attached to it.
I think the next big bad will be attached to the next addition of newly acquired IP to the MCU, so it'll be a mutant if we see X Men, Galactus or Doom (or maybe Kang still) if it's FF etc etc.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Yeah. And I kinda like how they seem to be introducing it slowly, rather than just dropping it into a single film.
After all, when they’ve the runtime of Loki and Dr Strange 2, they can set it out and their version of the rules better.
They got away with brevity for time travel in Endgame, because they wanted to avoid diverging timelines. But with Loki making off with the Tesseract and therefore mindstone, who knows what havoc that could cause.
There’s also the question of exactly how Cap returned the Soul Stone! Not to mention what adventures he might’ve had getting everything back where it was. Time stone is easy enough. Just give it back to the Ancient One, and job’s a good’un.
The Spacestone would involve rebuilding the Tesseract for one, then getting it back into a secure facility without anyone noticing that “hey, isn’t that sodding Captain America???”.
And is returning them to the same point in time enough? Or is the fact of their absence, however temporary, enough to disrupt things?
There’s also relatively little preventing Cap as we knew him returning in the future to lend a hand - he only needs to be back and old for Endgame to pan out after all.
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I think that Doom having already been on screen on multiple occasions, albeit out of the MCU, may count against the chances of his being featured for a while.
Definitely one of the strongest options though, carries that ambiguity the same way Magneto does in that he's not so much evil as simply has a different approach that's at odds to the heroic ideal. That gives him a depth and complexity rather than simply being a cackling Skeletor figure for the goodies to wail on.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Loki is the one I’ve been looking forward to. Wandavision really caught me off guard how exceptional that was. Winterfalcon has been a more... normal level of good. I’m really hoping Loki hits it out of the park, and gets a second main character I can slam their name together with.
I actually hate all things time travel related and find it a lazy out of writing. Now that it is a "thing" in MCU, the question always is going to be "Why not fix it by going back in time?".
Then, it causes more headaches and writing issues than it really solves.
Well the way they did it in Endgame established that changing the past doesn’t change your present, so you can’t change then to fix now. Old Cap does kind of undermine that though a bit.
