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 JoshInJapan wrote:

 aku-chan wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
Man, I just started watching Wandavision..... I am so far behind. :(

You're only just behind me, I just finished Wandavision.
I'd been holding out hope that Disney would break the habit of a lifetime and put some of this stuff out on DVD, but that's looking increasingly unlikely, so streaming it is.

It's not Disney precisely, but the old Netflix stuff is coming out on DVD here. Of course, Japan is strangely behind in home electronics-- a lot of people still have FAX machines at home, and pager service was available until 2020.

I've seen the occasional Netflix (And Amazon) show end up on DVD.
Even though Disney have always been bad at giving their shows a physical release, I didn't think they would permanently lock up big chunks of 2 of their biggest franchises in their streaming service (Especially as the new Dr. Strange film seems to be relying a bit on people watching WandaVision first).
I guess they're just expecting everyone who really follows the MCU will sign up eventually.

Well, particularly in the U.K. where we benefit from Star, Disney+ is pretty good value. Even if you just want to binge and ditch, MCU stuff can be done comfortably in a month.

 aku-chan wrote:
(Especially as the new Dr. Strange film seems to be relying a bit on people watching WandaVision first).
I guess they're just expecting everyone who really follows the MCU will sign up eventually.

I got the exact opposite impression. Wanda thinks Strange wants to talk about Westview, but he dismisses it in a sentence.

I imagine anything from Wandavision that the audience needs to know will be summarised in the film. This, in turn, will make the TV shows exactly what I thought they'd end up being: Vital parts of the MCU story that aren't really all that vital.

Wait 'til the next Captain America film, where they summarised Falcon/Winter Soldier in a single "Yeah I'm Cap now" in a throwaway line.

Nothing has ever been vital to the plot of an MCU movie. They all stand on their own pretty well. It's a big part of why the series has continued where so many other attempts have failed.

Also, for the vast majority, the individual entries have been good. Something else the others have failed at.

Which is largely because they're more concerned with being a coherent film than a larger meta narrative outside of the post credit sequences, which themselves were largely free of context.

Finally caught No Way Home on a rental.

I have to say, the first half-hour of this movie is kind of a slog. Everything is kind of way over the top (they really want Dr. Strange to come off like a total asshat and be supremely unlikable don't they?), but I appreciate that the film and series continue doing a great job of depicting Peter Parker as being a kid and not exactly having a whole lot of life experience to inform his decisions.

As someone with a long curve to learning lessons, I relate to that.

But after the first 30 minutes hot damn does the film take off Like wow. I'm glad I sequestered myself best I could for this one. It was worth it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I imagine anything from Wandavision that the audience needs to know will be summarised in the film.

Hmm. Yeah.. I don't know. Somehow I don't think its going to lead with how Wanda's a monster that tortured a town for months rather than deal with her grief, and is suddenly obsessed with finding real versions of her fake children after one of her victims told her no one would understand her 'sacrifice.'

Also something something prophesized chaos-bringer. Well, that bit might slip in.

Voss wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I imagine anything from Wandavision that the audience needs to know will be summarised in the film.

Hmm. Yeah.. I don't know. Somehow I don't think its going to lead with how Wanda's a monster that tortured a town for months rather than deal with her grief, and is suddenly obsessed with finding real versions of her fake children after one of her victims told her no one would understand her 'sacrifice.'

Also something something prophesized chaos-bringer. Well, that bit might slip in.

They're also potentially drawing from at least 3 episodes of What If that they may or may not bring people up to speed on

Watching the latest trailer, I really think Marvel Studio's biggest problem currently is deciding which project gets a movie and which gets a series. Because this one reminds me of Eternals: its too much, too big, and too complicated for a film. Every family outing and couple's date night needs to bring along their own comic book nerd to explain basically everything on screen.

Whereas F&WS and Hawkeye could have been films and cut some the fat that bogged down the shows. They had straightforward messages (or no message at all) and fairly small casts (of primary characters).

Still loving Moon Knight. It’s really interesting how they’re handling tue personalities.

THOR!

I can dig it.

No expectations, but nothing in that trailer got my spider-senses tingling, so that's a good thing.

Looks like they are leaning heavily into the Not-so-Serious nature of the GoTG and Thor: Ragnarok.

I'm not sure how I feel about that yet.....

Well, it looks like Korg (aka The Greater Daemon of Bathos) is along for the ride, so I expect every single emotional beat to be ruined by a joke.

That felt like a speed run of the first 25 minutes of the film.
Not necessarily in a bad way, but now I'm expecting a series of montages with little emotional connection.

Then, suddenly, there will be actual plot.

...with a pause for a backstory for the reassembled hammer and Jane. Unless that's happening in a D+ show that I missed the announcement for.


Also:

Looks like they are leaning heavily into the Not-so-Serious nature of the GoTG and Thor: Ragnarok.

I'm not sure how I feel about that yet......

Yeah, the scenes with Quill make it look like a larger problem than just Korg. It seems set up like Ragnarok, where fun wacky adventure turns into (what's supposed to be) heart rending tragedy, but the dialogue gets stuck in the former, and the serious elements are kind of whatever.

Nice to see a glimpse of Natalie but yeah I thought Raganarok was good but not great, the last third is pretty weak and Hel has nothing to do.

Still nice choice of song.

Is that Hercules or someone else with the lightning - as thats his dads thing not his?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Nice to see a glimpse of Natalie but yeah I thought Raganarok was good but not great, the last third is pretty weak and Hel has nothing to do.

Still nice choice of song.

Is that Hercules or someone else with the lightning - as thats his dads thing not his?

The plot may



Not so sold on the song myself. Thor seems a bit old to really fit it (and doesn't have kids, and has plum run out of parental figures), and honestly his 'identity crisis' is just tiring at this point. We've had 7 films with the guy, if that's still a mystery, you've done character development wrong.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Is that Hercules or someone else with the lightning - as thats his dads thing not his?

We've known for almost a year that Russell Crowe will be playing Zeus in the film.

Well, MoonKnight just talked about the Overvoid I.E. the celestial city where most of the gods reside. So Gorr The God Butcher might do some god butchering there.

I was wondering if we were going to see some of Gorr, considering so many Gods have shown up/are about to start showing up.

Is this going to lead to some Hercules shenanigans? I haven't heard anything about Hercules being cast yet.

Voss wrote:
That felt like a speed run of the first 25 minutes of the film.

Less than that even. I can see the Guardians being out of the picture within 10. This is a very much abbreviated Thor gets his groove back and finds no more joy in battle and goes off to find himself. We might see most of this before the title card.

I'm actually not sure exactly where they'll put Natalie. I suspect rather late all things considered. It looks like we're going to have time for Thor to settle into a more pacifistic role as part of some kind of conclave of the gods before Gorr shows up to do his thing.

Oh man I really enjoyed the latest episode of Moon Knight!

Again I’m impressed at how well the MCU makes use of the TV, episodic format. Opinions may vary, but excluding perhaps WinterSoldier, none give the impression of a movie script stretched out.

And Moon Knight has a suitably dream like quality.

I kinda wonder what would have happened if they’d tried to talk to the guy in the tomb. Like, Hey, avatar of Konshu here, we came here to stop the guys who dug this place up. Also the hippo was great.

 AduroT wrote:
I kinda wonder what would have happened if they’d tried to talk to the guy in the tomb. Like, Hey, avatar of Konshu here, we came here to stop the guys who dug this place up. Also the hippo was great.

Imagine the High Heedyins of Universal looking at everything fun and great and Egyptian about the latest Moon Knight episode, then looking at the magnificence of the Brendan Fraser Mummy Movies, then the….the…….no I can’t say it let alone type it….but you’ll know what I mean….but their wannabe movie universe they allow notorious short arsed mentalist Tom Cruise strangle in its very crib.

Well played MCU, well played!

To unironically quote one of the greatest pieces of meta media ever, which is so meta it’s even meta to itself, The Producers? But without the implied homophobia, just in case? Keep it happy, keep it snappy….keep it gay. (Please note my incredibly deliberate lower case g in gay, yeah?)

We’re up to like four times they’ve tried to start that Monsters Cinematic Universe now aren’t we?

 AduroT wrote:
We’re up to like four times they’ve tried to start that Monsters Cinematic Universe now aren’t we?

Personally I really enjoyed all of them


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 Ghaz wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Is that Hercules or someone else with the lightning - as thats his dads thing not his?

We've known for almost a year that Russell Crowe will be playing Zeus in the film.

Have you? - I did not.

Its kind of a shame the MCU systematically killed off all the named Asgardians except Valkyrie.

Isn't Sif still alive? She did not die on screen? (unless she did in one of the tv shows?

Sif was on Agents of Shield, and I’m pretty sure she survived her time there.