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Aash wrote:
Jonathan Majors: Marvel actor guilty of assaulting girlfriend https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67727425

I suppose we can expect an announcement from Disney/Marvel about the recasting of Kang or a change of direction for the MCU in the near future.

Been quite a rollercoaster. As the information came out and how it was framed, I admit I flipflopped on his guilt/innocence throughout this ordeal.

Recent podcasts that I listen to went over some of his text exchanges with the victim(as mentioned in the article), and this dude is top shelf manipulative narcissist. Now a jury's decision can add physically abusive on top of that.

I'm seriously baffled by his stupidity. Young, very talented, already broke out into the most successful film franchise in movie history, and blows it all up because he likes to hit women. All of the cameos, press tours, interviews, not to mention the roles he would have gotten afterwards - MILLIONS of dollars down the hole. What a complete fething idiot.

As expected Majors has been dropped by Marvel-
https://deadline.com/2023/12/jonathan-majors-marvel-fired-guilty-verdict-1235671790/

I hope they recast Kang rather than trying to rewrite the already-failing phases 5 and 6.

Or they could lean way in the other way and cast Kevin Spacey as the Purple Man.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope they recast Kang rather than trying to rewrite the already-failing phases 5 and 6.

There were rumors floating around of a potential pivot to Doctor Doom as the big bad instead.

With the way Loki finished up, they could very easily just relegate Kang to the background as a looming threat that never actually materialises because of Loki.

 insaniak wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I hope they recast Kang rather than trying to rewrite the already-failing phases 5 and 6.

There were rumors floating around of a potential pivot to Doctor Doom as the big bad instead.

With the way Loki finished up, they could very easily just relegate Kang to the background as a looming threat that never actually materialises because of Loki.

Agreed, seeing as Doctor Doom was the Big Bad of both Secret Wars series that Marvel published.

Loki season one where Kang was introduced also told us that different actors can play the different variants. You had some Lokis who were still Tom, but many who weren’t. No reason all the Kangs have to be the same guy, we just don’t get more of He Who Remains.

From the Hollywood Reporter:

In November, Marvel hired Loki creator Michael Waldron to work on a new draft of what was once called Kang Dynasty, but is now being referred to as Avengers 5, according to sources.

On could argue that with Loki now the God of Time, that’s Kang stopped in his tracks?

Not necessarily the most dramatic of endings, like. But a potential ending.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On could argue that with Loki now the God of Time, that’s Kang stopped in his tracks?

Not necessarily the most dramatic of endings, like. But a potential ending.

I don't think so. The end of Loki 2 has them talking about how the Council of Kangs hasn't noticed them yet.

And Deadpool 3 is basically done and that includes a plot of recruiting heroes to fight the council.

I think Kang is still happening. I ALSO think Doom is happening. I just don't think thats a pivot. I think that was always the plan. Kangs take the place of the beyonders to tear reality apart and Doom makes a batleworld that has to be fought off as the final big bad.

I assumed Secret Wars was a way to introduce Doom regardless. He's way too integral to every variation of the name to not take the opportunity even with Kang as the expected baddie.

That said, I'm kind of okay with Marvel just moving on. There's a lot of ways to wrap up the multiverse and just do something else. All the incursion stuff that actually ends in Secret Wars hasn't really mattered so just... do something else. It's fine.

So who's everyone's choice for the Kang recast? I've seen a lot of people say John Boyega but I just can't see it at all.

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
So who's everyone's choice for the Kang recast? I've seen a lot of people say John Boyega but I just can't see it at all.

Boyega’s supposedly said he’s not interested.

Dude that played Cyborg in Justice League would be legit. Edit: Ray Fisher.

Terrance Howard so he can tell Rhodey that he's back and here to take his place as the real Skrull double.

I've seen a lot of people shipping John David Washington, and I can see that.

 Grimskul wrote:
Terrance Howard so he can tell Rhodey that he's back and here to take his place as the real Skrull double.

Is he not all busy with his reinvention of Maths?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
Terrance Howard so he can tell Rhodey that he's back and here to take his place as the real Skrull double.

Is he not all busy with his reinvention of Maths?

It's his version of math that lets him figure out the multiverse, that's why he should be the next Kang clearly

I’m not sure a multiversal “divide by zero” is going to make anything better

 Grimskul wrote:
Terrance Howard so he can tell Rhodey that he's back and here to take his place as the real Skrull double.

Some of my meme pages on Facebook are wanting Kirk Lazarus, of Tropic Thunder fame, to take over the Kang role.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
Terrance Howard so he can tell Rhodey that he's back and here to take his place as the real Skrull double.

Some of my meme pages on Facebook are wanting Kirk Lazarus, of Tropic Thunder fame, to take over the Kang role.

That would be a hilarious way to get Robert Downey Jr. back into the MCU without him explicitly being Tony Stark

Hilarious but only works as a meme. The number of people that would miss the reference would be.... horrifying.

Could still be RDJ though, returning as a grown up Iron Lad

It's true, you wouldn't be able to release Tropic Thunder today, so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of younger folk don't know the reference to that classic (makes you realize you're old when it was released way back in 2008).

The benefit to Tropic Thunder is that (at least in my experience) people either do or don't know about Tropic Thunder at all these days.

If they know, you've usually seen it and caught all the gags behind the Kirk Lazarus joke which plays in perfectly with what Tropic Thunder is (a giant spoof about Hollywood and blockbuster movies).

If they don't know, they don't know so they're not being upset about it.

And when people do know, the joke is pretty easy to explain and genuinely works so RDJ's performance as a dude playing a dude pretending to be another dude kind of serves as a fantastic send off to blackface in film.

The movie probably couldn't be made today, but that's more reason to appreciate that it was made when it was and made the way it was.

I don't buy the "it couldn't be made today". You see that about a lot of movies and yet every few years you get a movie that will inevitably be described as "that couldn't be made today". It wasn't like blackface was socially acceptable when Tropic Thunder came out but now it is seen as wrong. It was bad then and it was a movie making fun of it. Just because some people have trouble distinguishing mocking racism and actual racism is no reason not mock racism.

I think the modern day issue is just that the joke would be endlessly dissected long before people got to see it. Imagine how many clickbait articles you'd have to wade through for months; how many hours of angry YouTube/TikTok video soundbites shaping the narrative of the film. It's not that the joke doesn't work today; it holds up maybe better now than it did when it was first released; its that people's opinions aren't shaped by the joke itself as much as the narrative built long before they see it.

What-If?

Season 2 has begun!

 LunarSol wrote:
I think the modern day issue is just that the joke would be endlessly dissected long before people got to see it. Imagine how many clickbait articles you'd have to wade through for months; how many hours of angry YouTube/TikTok video soundbites shaping the narrative of the film. It's not that the joke doesn't work today; it holds up maybe better now than it did when it was first released; its that people's opinions aren't shaped by the joke itself as much as the narrative built long before they see it.

This is my thinking as well.

The Internet and the way it works especially encourage loud and outrageous knee jerk reactions and trumpet them loud. People start arguing about the reaction itself or the principle behind it and whatever they were reacting to in the first place becomes lost in translation.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
What-If?

Season 2 has begun!

I like the film noir hardboiled detective vibe they had for Nebula.



Also, featuring the Nova Corp just re-emphasized the MCU's problem of introducing then destroying long-standing characters/organizations for no great reason. Nova Corp gets introduced in GotG and is a big part of the story. They got destroyed offscreen in a sentence in Infinity War.

Next episode, kind of forgot we get one a day up to and including the 30th.


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That was a petty cool one!