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Danny76 wrote:
Rumours are starting. Based on various people saying what they think it will be.
We could have said that last week due to some of the posts on here guessing prices.

There’s no source, no retailer price sheet. It’s still too far off for that yet.

That said, it would be a pass for me at that price.
£150 would be a high limit and that’s if it had greatness in terms of content.
£120/130 more if it has the numbers of BSF I’d be happy.
How much was that box?

BSF was £95.00, with 84 models

I think the price will be £100,000,000. At this price it would be a hard pass for me.

This is a totally legit rumour. Quote me.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

BSF was £95.00, with 84 models

Blackfortress has 44 models, although working through the sprues felt like it was 84!

JSG wrote:
I think the price will be £100,000,000. At this price it would be a hard pass for me.

This is a totally legit rumour. Quote me.

Don't forget that it requires a credit check and monthly payments.

But for real: we have this nonsense anytime stuff is months out.
Where did the supposed $300 price come from rumorwise? Was it from an actual retailer's preorder pages? Or is it just from the usual suspects wanting clickbait articles?

SamusDrake wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

BSF was £95.00, with 84 models

Blackfortress has 44 models, although working through the sprues felt like it was 84!

Indeed, I was quite wrong on the model count. Mea culpa!

 Kanluwen wrote:

JSG wrote:
I think the price will be £100,000,000. At this price it would be a hard pass for me.

This is a totally legit rumour. Quote me.

Don't forget that it requires a credit check and monthly payments.

But for real: we have this nonsense anytime stuff is months out.
Where did the supposed $300 price come from rumorwise? Was it from an actual retailer's preorder pages? Or is it just from the usual suspects wanting clickbait articles?

I saw somebody on 4chan say they know a guy who heard a guy say it would cost 180 quid. I strongly suspect that's about the level of confirmation this rumor comes from. I think Dark Uprising broke some people's brains with it's $290 price tag. I see people say GW no longer has low cost (with 27 parentheses around that) starters, or anything that matches even half the value of Dark Imperium, when currently on their website they have starters with around equal value available for sale. I don't play 40K but I thought you all were over the moon for the value in that $200 Indomitus box, so I don't really understand where this sentiment comes from.

Unless this box set comes with a block of Mordheim terrain, it's not gonna cost $300. But it's fun to clickbait otherwise for the time being.

 Kanluwen wrote:

JSG wrote:
I think the price will be £100,000,000. At this price it would be a hard pass for me.

This is a totally legit rumour. Quote me.

Don't forget that it requires a credit check and monthly payments.

But for real: we have this nonsense anytime stuff is months out.
Where did the supposed $300 price come from rumorwise? Was it from an actual retailer's preorder pages? Or is it just from the usual suspects wanting clickbait articles?

Clickbaits from Youtube as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m496IS5-Hk&fbclid=IwAR2faFGenbQQ0pHJtf-1ULtEJzVcaTMOLltc16UhdSSieXdE1pyBo__XaT4

(now only for members)

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOi6-_E4Wkw

If it is anywhere near Dark Uprising's price point it'll be too much for me to consider getting. I feel like these games need to be ~£100 to be in with a chance of an impulse buy, above that is an investment. That's how I felt about Dark Uprising despite the incredible selection of terrain.

zamerion wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

JSG wrote:
I think the price will be £100,000,000. At this price it would be a hard pass for me.

This is a totally legit rumour. Quote me.

Don't forget that it requires a credit check and monthly payments.

But for real: we have this nonsense anytime stuff is months out.
Where did the supposed $300 price come from rumorwise? Was it from an actual retailer's preorder pages? Or is it just from the usual suspects wanting clickbait articles?

Clickbaits from Youtube as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m496IS5-Hk&fbclid=IwAR2faFGenbQQ0pHJtf-1ULtEJzVcaTMOLltc16UhdSSieXdE1pyBo__XaT4

(now only for members)

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOi6-_E4Wkw

That guy thinks Warhammer Quest is going to be really expensive because it looks so much better than the new HeroQuest.

It'll be £95 or maybe £99. These are games that they pitch to board gamers that aren't necessarily into mainline Warhammer stuff. The base game needs to be inline with other mini-based co-op games.

I can imagine the expansions being even more overpriced though.

Can somebody approximate a release date from other products?
If they continue to reveal one entry on the site per week, that will be 7 missing adventurers + 3 missing overlords = 10 weeks. So mid to end April could be possible.

The only thing we know is that the stuff from the preview is, barring any more COVID nonsense, supposed to be preorderable within the next 3 months.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Rumours are starting. Based on various people saying what they think it will be.
We could have said that last week due to some of the posts on here guessing prices.

There’s no source, no retailer price sheet. It’s still too far off for that yet.

That said, it would be a pass for me at that price.
£150 would be a high limit and that’s if it had greatness in terms of content.
£120/130 more if it has the numbers of BSF I’d be happy.
How much was that box?

BSF was £95.00, with 84 models

Then edit my post too (including the 44 not 84).
£120 at most.
£100 to be happy.




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 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
Can somebody approximate a release date from other products?
If they continue to reveal one entry on the site per week, that will be 7 missing adventurers + 3 missing overlords = 10 weeks. So mid to end April could be possible.

As Kan says, within three months.
I think the far end for sure. If they do 1 a week all the way then yeah.



On the topic of the price, as I said earlier. At this point it’s too far away. And people posting they ‘heard a price’ are just muddying the waters more. .
It won’t be know till the weeks before release when retailers find out.

At 300 USD this game would sit on shelves forever. Unless they pack a Dark Vengeance amount of terrain in it (which I highly doubt they would in a board game, I just can't see that). These boards games are also partially targeted and people who like just that, board games, particularly dungeon crawlers, and are not dedicated miniature gamers. When that target audience can get a plethora of other dungeon crawlers for 100-125 USD full retail it would be idiotic for GW to price this at 300 USD.

I imagine it will probably be 170 USD to be priced a bit above what BSF was, or maybe 200 at a stretch.

Gloomhaven, Kingdom Death and the like have shown there's a market for a dungeon crawler game with a more expensive box full of stuff. $300 is alot of money yes, but is it if it has loads of terrain and 120 models??? Unlikely know, but GW have changed things up before, there's no guarantees this Warhammer quest will have the same number of models as the last effort.

I don't think it's likely, but it is possible.

Anything's possible, it just seems to be a discussion based on nothing. It does seem like there's a full story in the core box, freeing the city and killing the main bad guy, so one wonders where the expansions could come from... and GW does package terrain with some releases and charges a ton of money extra for it... but no one bringing up those points falsely claims to know a guy who's friends with a guy who runs a store who talked to a distributor as justification for discussing it.

 frankelee wrote:
Anything's possible, it just seems to be a discussion based on nothing. It does seem like there's a full story in the core box, freeing the city and killing the main bad guy, so one wonders where the expansions could come from... and GW does package terrain with some releases and charges a ton of money extra for it... but no one bringing up those points falsely claims to know a guy who's friends with a guy who runs a store who talked to a distributor as justification for discussing it.

Killing the bad guy doesn't mean the end of the mission. How many times did Obsidius Mallex (the CSM with thunder hammer) return to life in Blackstone Fortress? Heck, spoilers . Big boss aside, they've got a huge city to explore. New enemies could be encountered, like chaos sorcerers planning to perform some dark ritual in the sewers, to ancient undead dudes trying to stake a claim in the resulting power vacuum. Blackstone had expansions with more chaos cults, trying to stop big monsters, working alongside big monsters, and stronger versions of the enemies they've already introduced (all of which could very easily fit into this setting.) And that's not even taking into account "hero expansion packs"

At ten million pounds plus having to smash all my current models with a hammer, that's a hard pass from me.

Seven million would have been fine.

 frankelee wrote:
Anything's possible, it just seems to be a discussion based on nothing. It does seem like there's a full story in the core box, freeing the city and killing the main bad guy, so one wonders where the expansions could come from... and GW does package terrain with some releases and charges a ton of money extra for it... but no one bringing up those points falsely claims to know a guy who's friends with a guy who runs a store who talked to a distributor as justification for discussing it.

Vampires aren’t terribly au fair with the concept of actually staying dead though...

This will beat Dark Uprising in price mark my words.

I saw people groaning about Mallex being the lame bad guy who won't go away. But when I say it doesn't lend itself to more stories obviously, I of course mean within the bounds of good taste. Blackstone Fortress was a techno wilderness, these characters were going on safari, with no clear endpoint or necessarily even a firm final goal in mind. Much like in the original Warhammer Quest, you go into a dungeon and kill monsters, and there's an endless number of dungeons and an endless number of monsters and the end condition is boredom.

This story is a much more clear narrative, you're on a city raid to set things right, which makes it very compelling sounding, but once things are set right, then it becomes 80s sequel territory: "Oh look, we found a NEW bad guy! We've got MORE of the exact SAME problem! Now that you've saved the city and necessarily everything has changed, NOTHING has changed! More LUCRATIVE adventures await us!"

Of course they can and will make expansions, it's just from an authorial perspective, it's presented a self contained story, not an expansive one.

MaxT wrote:
Gloomhaven, Kingdom Death and the like have shown there's a market for a dungeon crawler game with a more expensive box full of stuff. $300 is alot of money yes, but is it if it has loads of terrain and 120 models??? Unlikely know, but GW have changed things up before, there's no guarantees this Warhammer quest will have the same number of models as the last effort.

I expect it will be similar to BSF.

MaxT wrote:
Gloomhaven, Kingdom Death and the like have shown there's a market for a dungeon crawler game with a more expensive box full of stuff. $300 is alot of money yes, but is it if it has loads of terrain and 120 models??? Unlikely know, but GW have changed things up before, there's no guarantees this Warhammer quest will have the same number of models as the last effort.

I don't think it's likely, but it is possible.

I mean it is a possibility, but extremely unlikely. Gloomhaven isn’t really a fair comparison as you can pick up the game from a discounter for 100 USD and it only includes a handful of board game quality miniatures (and not great ones at that), it’s mostly standees. Kingdom Death Monster is a very boutique miniatures game that was incredibly expensive because the huge amount of content and because it was targeted to a very niche group. I don’t imagine you would see many copies flying off the shelf at an LGS for 400 bucks a pop.

I'd pay 300$ or 500$ respectively for GW Gloomhaven or Kingdom death. Unfortunately this will probably be another "dice roll for crit" kinda adventure, because it's easier for newb to understand.

MaxT wrote:
Gloomhaven, Kingdom Death and the like have shown there's a market for a dungeon crawler game with a more expensive box full of stuff. $300 is alot of money yes, but is it if it has loads of terrain and 120 models??? Unlikely know, but GW have changed things up before, there's no guarantees this Warhammer quest will have the same number of models as the last effort.

I don't think it's likely, but it is possible.

Gloomhaven goes for about £95 in the UK too though.

I think anything more than that for the base game, your non-GW board game stores (of which there are many these days) likely won't carry it (maybe at £105, where they can discount to £90). And these are the products that GW make for that segment of the market. Quest exists to give them a presence in that co-op board sector (and as a gateway for those players to the GW ecosystem). If the price is higher Quest would still sell to existing GW and Quest fans, but it wouldn't serve as that gateway any more.

They already discovered a way around this with BSF, which is to charge loads for the expansions, and treat the base game almost as a loss-leader. It's no coincidence that this exactly how companies like FFG work in the board game space also.

Gloomhaven's only £95 now, it launched at closer to £150 if i recall correctly (probably don't) but that may have been partly down to scarcity.


I've no idea where these terrain rumours have come from. I see no reason to expect any terrain in this box, unless you count doors and things a la Kill Team / Catacombs that is

Billicus wrote:
I've no idea where these terrain rumours have come from. I see no reason to expect any terrain in this box, unless you count doors and things a la Kill Team / Catacombs that is

It's not a rumor so much as people trying to come up with a scenario in which the suggested, ludicrous price tag for Warhammer Quest would make sense.

Chopstick wrote:Unfortunately this will probably be another "dice roll for crit" kinda adventure, because it's easier for newb to understand.

See, I don't have an issue with potentially simple rules if that's the target audience they want to go for. Board games are easier to get into or share with your friends or young children than an actual wargame would be. However, that seems better left to the recently announced small boardgames using reused plastic figures. Big expensive boxes are a larger barrier for entry already, and comparatively extortionately priced expansions featuring sought-after exclusive models of more obscure figures make no sense for the casual crowd (ah, sure, a... "zoat"..?). It shouldn't be too difficult to make a game that offers more choice and depth than Monopoly while staying accessible though. That said, I'm not too hopeful.

Billicus wrote:I've no idea where these terrain rumours have come from. I see no reason to expect any terrain in this box, unless you count doors and things a la Kill Team / Catacombs that is

Looks like the supposedly leaked price, itself quite possibly based on nothing, just led people to imagine that price would only make sense if a lot of terrain was included in the set. Once we learn more, I guess we'll soon be seeing people disappointed by the lack of terrain, and others pleasantly surprised by the "low" price after unfounded rumours were cemented in their heads. It's vampirates all over again.

Billicus wrote:
Gloomhaven's only £95 now, it launched at closer to £150 if i recall correctly (probably don't) but that may have been partly down to scarcity.


I've no idea where these terrain rumours have come from. I see no reason to expect any terrain in this box, unless you count doors and things a la Kill Team / Catacombs that is

Yeah it was mostly down to scarcity. I'd expect this to also go for £150 if there aren't enough copies to go around when it comes out.

The terrain rumour is weird, the only logic I can see is that in the WHQ "relaunch" we started with square boards, then went to hex boards, so now maybe it's no board? Or perhaps it's because the new Descent game has terrain included?

There's not really been a "terrain rumor".

It was trying to figure out where/why there's a "rumored"(really, just "made the hell up by youtubers/blogs) price that was on par with Dark Uprising for Necromunda...which was full of more scenery than I am willing to admit I have not finished building.