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Yeah. Not a single ravenloft figure is carrying scenery on their back.

Ravenloft is fantastic quality for its price.

The models aren't exactly masterpieces but they do serve the game rather than the other way around. You open Ravenloft and you have everything ready to use out of the box, save for punching out the cardboard pieces. There is no risk here of adding to the pile of shame...

And it starts with more customisation of characters and variety of maps / missions than Cursed City seems to have.

Horses for courses. I know which one I'd buy.

If the choice was 50 USD for Ravenloft, or 300 for Cursed City... I'd still choose Cursed City.

But hey, that's just me.

Either way, it hardly matters. GW has shifted the advertisements on their main page away from advertising Cursed City, customer service confirms that they're not making any more (at least for now) and if you don't get it in a shop this weekend, you're likely not going to unless you go Ebay or something.

Good luck everyone.

I bought all the d&d adventure system games. Decent quality and great fun. Minis have soft details, but the plastic is durable and forgiving (like dust miniatures).

Plays different though, terminator salvation is closer to warhammer quest (rolling 4 dice that are expended for actions). Love gws miniatures; looking forward to this version of warhammer quest the most based on its theme.

Are the characters from previous warhammer quest games usable in this game? I'd love to take the chaos knight and any lizardmen character.

Maybe they'll make hero cards for underworlds characters!! So much potential for growth and expansion.

 455_PWR wrote:

Are the characters from previous warhammer quest games usable in this game? I'd love to take the chaos knight and any lizardmen character.

No but It should be easy enough to port them over.

Aside from the box art, everything in Castle Ravenloft looks ugly and cheap. There is nothing I would like to paint and the poses repeated 4 times is a particular bug bear of mine. Give me a box set with 10 great minis or one with 100 average minis for the same price and I will choose the 10 every time.
Now it is totally subjective as to what counts as great, but for me every single mini in cursed city is awesome. I'm willing to pay a premium for that.

Y'all ignoring that I posted Ravenloft as a counter to someone saying that Cursed City was expensive because of the cardboard, right?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

Looking at the unboxing vids... I don't know why but this box seems a bit light, maybe its the condensed sprues don't know.

It's a slim box. Slimmer than Kill Team, or Necromunda, or Warcry, or even Speed Freeks.

They're clearly seeing that they can get away with it.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Y'all ignoring that I posted Ravenloft as a counter to someone saying that Cursed City was expensive because of the cardboard, right?

Well, but of course!

Anyways, a current example: I just received my copy of the core box of Middara Act 1, which costed me $115 at retail.

(spoilered in case you just want to ignore comparisons)


But yea, I'm sure that the price of the Cursed city box is just becuase cardboard is expensive to produce (which it is).

Oh, this, btw, is a reprint of the game.

Billicus wrote:
Maybe this is just how they do this now. Hell, why bother telling people stuff

there are sets around in the GW shops that do not sell, and after a while those go back to sell via the online store
(a reason why we got same boxes for all countries because they had problems with sets selling in some countries better but could not re-direct the left overs from other countries)
if something comes back to stock after a short timeframe it is really just getting things back into the warehouse

and as long as there are enough sets around they are not doing another print-run

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Y'all ignoring that I posted Ravenloft as a counter to someone saying that Cursed City was expensive because of the cardboard, right?

I said everything in the Ravenloft box is ugly, especially the floor tiles which also look to be rather on the thin side. Just like miniatures card components can vary greatly in quality. Gw doesn't actually have a great track in that regard but the cursed city components look good with some pretty striking art on the tiles.

I do think that the price of cursed city is fairly high but I can see exactly what I'm paying for. It's surprisingly hard to see accurate information and images about many boardgames.

Edit. The Middara box posted above is a much better comparison which gives better value than Cursed City with components that look to be of high quality with quite nice art. It also shows that if you don't want to spend gw prices there are lots of alternatives. I would still choose Cursed city though.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Y'all ignoring that I posted Ravenloft as a counter to someone saying that Cursed City was expensive because of the cardboard, right?

I was highlighting the only "weakness" Ravenloft has which is the models. Otherwise its hard to beat the quality of that game.

One of the reasons I'm not getting Cursed City is because I've already got Ravenloft and quite honestly a far better deal. If one so desired, they can expand Ravenloft with either Drizzt or Ashardalon for only £60 which Quest cannot compete with.


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Chikout wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Y'all ignoring that I posted Ravenloft as a counter to someone saying that Cursed City was expensive because of the cardboard, right?

I said everything in the Ravenloft box is ugly, especially the floor tiles which also look to be rather on the thin side.

Its worth inspecting the contents in person as the tiles are thick stock.

SamusDrake wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Y'all ignoring that I posted Ravenloft as a counter to someone saying that Cursed City was expensive because of the cardboard, right?

I was highlighting the only "weakness" Ravenloft has which is the models. Otherwise its hard to beat the quality of that game.

One of the reasons I'm not getting Cursed City is because I've already got Ravenloft and quite honestly a far better deal. If one so desired, they can expand Ravenloft with either Drizzt or Ashardalon for only £60 which Quest cannot compete with.


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Chikout wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Y'all ignoring that I posted Ravenloft as a counter to someone saying that Cursed City was expensive because of the cardboard, right?

I said everything in the Ravenloft box is ugly, especially the floor tiles which also look to be rather on the thin side.

Its worth inspecting the contents in person as the tiles are thick stock.

That's why I posted the Middara pics, as everything in the box (except the minis, I guess, being boardgame plastics) is higher quality than the stuff from BSF, which I also own.

 Albertorius wrote:

That's why I posted the Middara pics, as everything in the box (except the minis, I guess, being boardgame plastics) is higher quality than the stuff from BSF, which I also own.

this is heresy, no one ever made anything with better quality than GW (no matter if it is minis, wargame rules, boardgames, or paints), because this is why you pay the higher price to get the best quality on the market...../s

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Y'all ignoring that I posted Ravenloft as a counter to someone saying that Cursed City was expensive because of the cardboard, right?

Ssssshhhhhhh! That ruins the narrative!

 kodos wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

That's why I posted the Middara pics, as everything in the box (except the minis, I guess, being boardgame plastics) is higher quality than the stuff from BSF, which I also own.

this is heresy, no one ever made anything with better quality than GW (no matter if it is minis, wargame rules, boardgames, or paints), because this is why you pay the higher price to get the best quality on the market...../s

We pay the higher price because everyone here (including me) keeps buying their products.
Yeah it might not be the "right" thing to do but if every year your products get more expensive and every year you have more customers, why not keep doing it?
You can find a lot of "better" board games with less money. But you don't want the other board games. You want Cursed City (Or you want both the other games and Cursed City).
So for me the only real question is "Do you want it enough to pay for it?" If you do, then buy it.
Don't get me wrong. I do find it expensive but knowing that this is the price of Cursed City and only GW sells Cursed City I decided it was worth it.

Nah, I no longer want the cursed city. Too few models and ugly weird tiles for the price they demand. For that price the box should be full of models, not just 50 something.

 straken619 wrote:

 kodos wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

That's why I posted the Middara pics, as everything in the box (except the minis, I guess, being boardgame plastics) is higher quality than the stuff from BSF, which I also own.

this is heresy, no one ever made anything with better quality than GW (no matter if it is minis, wargame rules, boardgames, or paints), because this is why you pay the higher price to get the best quality on the market...../s

We pay the higher price because everyone here (including me) keeps buying their products.
Yeah it might not be the "right" thing to do but if every year your products get more expensive and every year you have more customers, why not keep doing it?
You can find a lot of "better" board games with less money. But you don't want the other board games. You want Cursed City (Or you want both the other games and Cursed City).
So for me the only real question is "Do you want it enough to pay for it?" If you do, then buy it.
Don't get me wrong. I do find it expensive but knowing that this is the price of Cursed City and only GW sells Cursed City I decided it was worth it.

Yeah, well, not anymore. Their boardgames are less and less of a sound investment every time, and this one seems to be the one that broke the camel's back for me.

I mean, the last thing I bought from GW was the Indomitus box, and it doesn't seem like it's gonna change.

Also, it seems like the argument has morphed once more, from "yeah, it's more expensive but it's because of all the cardboard" to "yeah, well, but those others are uglier and worse" to "yeah, well, but it's Cursed City".

I don't know about you, but my attachment to Cursed City, a new IP even though it's inside the AoS setting, is not as high as of yet ^^

Just had a reply from gw customer services. Cursed city no longer available. Not range item after all. That sucks.

SolentSanguine wrote:
Just had a reply from gw customer services. Cursed city no longer available. Not range item after all. That sucks.

What did they say exactly? Did they explicitly say they wouldn't do another printing, or did they just say it is no longer available.

Chikout wrote:

SolentSanguine wrote:
Just had a reply from gw customer services. Cursed city no longer available. Not range item after all. That sucks.

What did they say exactly? Did they explicitly say they wouldn't do another printing, or did they just say it is no longer available.

Well, they didnt explicitly say they wouldnt do another printing, just that my only chance to get it now was a local gw.

And the ebay sharks cry out in joy!

Just had a check and the highest price I can see currently (UK) is £300

Price need to be higher next time so it wouldn't sold out like this!!!!!

SolentSanguine wrote:
Just had a reply from gw customer services. Cursed city no longer available. Not range item after all. That sucks.

Can you screen shot the email?

Wow, I'd be very surprised if this didn't become a stock item but then again I suppose other big games (Space Hulk) didn't.

If it's not going to be a stock item I guess this doesn't bode well for further expansions, which i assumed would follow the pattern of Blackstone Fortress.

SolentSanguine wrote:

Chikout wrote:

SolentSanguine wrote:
Just had a reply from gw customer services. Cursed city no longer available. Not range item after all. That sucks.

What did they say exactly? Did they explicitly say they wouldn't do another printing, or did they just say it is no longer available.

Well, they didnt explicitly say they wouldnt do another printing, just that my only chance to get it now was a local gw.

The GW customer service staff aren't much more informed/allowed to inform than the Facebook staff. So when they say "there's no more stock" it means they are just going off the website stock levels. They are saying that now the only chance is local stores because that's the only current chance within the current GW structure to get a hold of a copy. That doesn't mean there aren't more coming, it just means that as of right now the local store is your only option and the GW website is sold out

They've neither confirmed nor denied that there will ultimately be more stock.

They either don't know or they are outright forbidden from talking about any information that isn't already publicly released.



So it is again that GW central doesn't "really" want us to know the future, they want us buying Cursed City today. It is annoying because so far both the other Warhammer Quest games are medium term games, restocked over time with a finite lifespan.

The reprint of Space Hulk I believe was a Kirby era reprint and that management system didn't want specialist games in general. The reprints were one-and-done releases. Which is why it also hurt them because with no lifespan and not "future" the market responded badly. It's part of why Dreadfleet didn't do well for wargamers (despite having some relaly great models)

Yeah I'm no fan of GW but it doesn't seem likely that this was a one off.

There's no precedent for Cursed City being limited - the other Hero Quest games were normal runs for around a year and GW probably wouldn't invest money on a website, multiple videos (that are more than a black-shirt sitting in front of a camera) and commission a tie-in novel if it was a one-time run.

They usually also plaster BE SURE TO VISIT [WEBSITE] TO SECURE YOUR COPY OF THIS SUPER LIMITED, ONE-TIME ONLY BOX SET THAT'S CERTAIN TO GO, DON'T MISS OUT!!! on articles if it is.

This probably just means "it's currently out of stock". I doubt the customer support knows about future production runs at this point.