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I actually really like the easy to assemble plastic kits, like the 5 man rifle squad for astra-militarum and the old easy to assemble orc boys that can only be built in choppa configuration. They all look alike and dont have the most unique poses, but they are WAY easier to glue and I my fingers dont have a ton of super glue all over their themselves.

Why superglue? Plastic glue for plastic models. Doesn't stick to your fingers either(your fingers aren¨t made of plastic)

tneva is right. Stop using a jackhammer for a nail. Just use plastic glue.

That way you can enjoy customisable models without getting superglue everywhere! Best of both worlds.

Well to be fair there¨s one advantage superglue does have. Specifically it's easier to separate pieces post-gluing. So if you think you might need to unglue or are very affraid of making mistake in assembly super glue might have place.

But of course with these models you really don¨t need to worry about misassembly

I honestly havent tried plastic glue, I know even with super-glue they can become part seperated post painting, Tho trying to hold some of the parts in place for 15 seconds can be somewhat frustrating, but honestly I've always sucked in the arts and crafts department.

The ability to un-assemble models via the super-glue route makes it far superior to plastic glue, imo.

I'm a big advocate for using superglue on plastic models; it's a lot less stinky than plastic glue, if you use too much you just get some residue instead of dissolving bits of your model into soup, and when GW nerfs your unit or makes its loadout illegal you can stick it in the freezer, crack parts off, and rebuild it. You also don't need different glue if you expand into a game that still uses metal/resin minis, or if you decide you want some FW stuff for some reason. Superglue's also handy as a first-aid tool if you poke yourself with a hobby knife, which plastic glue doesn't really help with, unfortunately.

 Insectum7 wrote:
The ability to un-assemble models via the super-glue route makes it far superior to plastic glue, imo.

Well. Myself I prefer models to stay together. Hate regluing and repainting.

I prefer plastic glue for plastic models. Never even thought about rebuilding them and it saves Greenstuff work as plastic glue also fills gaps.

If you're assembling monopose models with no options plastic glue becomes more attractive. Anything that can be posed, I would never do it because more often than not I end up tweaking the pose on at least one model after I have a chance to think about it some more, and you can't easily do that with plastic glue.

What are people doing that superglue is insufficient to hold plastic models together?

I like superglue because it won't mar details accidentally and it's easy to remove with de-bonder.

Hell, I actually had a specifically use-case just last week. I was working on Armiger Knights and I realized after my second model that I could get a more interesting positioning by cutting their ankle tabs and rotating them in their sockets. I was able to de-bond the first one with some alcohol and change its positioning.

Then later I was magnetizing the hips to the torso to make transporting easier. I used a little glue to hold the torso in a pose while I drilled from the inside down to the hip joint. Then I de-bonded it and put the magnets in place, and now they hold their pose despite being magnetized.

yukishiro1 wrote:
If you're assembling monopose models with no options plastic glue becomes more attractive. Anything that can be posed, I would never do it because more often than not I end up tweaking the pose on at least one model after I have a chance to think about it some more, and you can't easily do that with plastic glue.

Depends on the glue I guess. I find it much easier to pose with plastic glue because it dries slower and you can't glue your fingers to the Mini... Whenever I have to glue models with separate arms holding a separate twohanded weapon plastic glue is a godsend.

I dont glue the models to my fingers with super-glue despite being quite messy, the problem I have is my finger tips do end up getting a coat of glue over them, which then I lose most the sensitivity on my finger tips, which then makes it harder for me to keep the tiny models in awkward poses/settings for the 15 seconds or so for the glue to settle in a precise fashion.

If you're getting glue everywhere, then just use less of it. I use a tooth pick to apply my glue, typically in little dots. You don't need to coat the entire contact surface since the glue will spread out when compressed anyway. If you're getting glue on your fingers, it's probably because excess is seeping out of the contact surfaces when squished. In addition, I recommend a glue accelerant. Dry fit a few times to figure out the position, then use dot of glue, press in with one hand and spritz with an atomized accelerant with the other. Boom, instant connection.

yukishiro1 wrote:
If you're assembling monopose models with no options plastic glue becomes more attractive. Anything that can be posed, I would never do it because more often than not I end up tweaking the pose on at least one model after I have a chance to think about it some more, and you can't easily do that with plastic glue.

Seeing you can move pieces while it's drying far longer than with superglue tweaking poses is easier with plastic glue.

Cheap superglue tends to be much runnier. I picked up some own brand supermarket glue a while back and was having a nightmare with it. Threw it away and won't make the same mistake again

Check out the gel superglues sold by loctite or gorilla glue. I strongly prefer them to liquid super glue as they actually stay right where you place them.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
...Superglue's also handy as a first-aid tool if you poke yourself with a hobby knife, which plastic glue doesn't really help with, unfortunately.

If you're poking yourself badly enough that a band-aid isn't enough to do the trick, I think you'd probably want to reach for a phone to get a ride to a hospital instead of the superglue...

 waefre_1 wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
...Superglue's also handy as a first-aid tool if you poke yourself with a hobby knife, which plastic glue doesn't really help with, unfortunately.

If you're poking yourself badly enough that a band-aid isn't enough to do the trick, I think you'd probably want to reach for a phone to get a ride to a hospital instead of the superglue...

No, no, you use the superglue instead of the band-aid. It sticks better, it's more flexible, and it's less obtrusive.

And it feels like a cool sci-fi synthskin when you put it on, rather than a bandage-but-sticky.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 waefre_1 wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
...Superglue's also handy as a first-aid tool if you poke yourself with a hobby knife, which plastic glue doesn't really help with, unfortunately.

If you're poking yourself badly enough that a band-aid isn't enough to do the trick, I think you'd probably want to reach for a phone to get a ride to a hospital instead of the superglue...

No, no, you use the superglue instead of the band-aid. It sticks better, it's more flexible, and it's less obtrusive.

yes, it is also made of toxic chemicals why not intreduce them to an open wound. unless the situation is dire, I would not advice doing it. Specially if you get the glue in to the wound , cut off oxygen supply an bacteria that hate oxygen start multiply in the wound. I have seen a guy go from getting a skin tear in the loin region durning an event, super glue it for necrosis to start 12 hours later on the next day. And removing super glue from a deep cut when necrosis sets in is no fun thing to expiriance.

There are medical superglues, but it is not the same as what would be used to assemble models.

Sobie wrote:
Check out the gel superglues sold by loctite or gorilla glue. I strongly prefer them to liquid super glue as they actually stay right where you place them.

loctite gel (in the blue/black triangle bottle) is my bread and butter of gaming. I prefer super glue so incase I make any mistakes or in the future weapon options become obsolete (or I fancy some new mods) I can just pop it off. Additionally for saving the model I find it to be INVALUABLE. Compared to the few times I have dropped a plastic glue model vs a super glue model 9/10 the super glue model comes out much safer. A plastic glue model has no room for give or to absorb force so whatever is the weakest part breaks. With super glue more often than not it just pops off an arm and the model itself keeps its integrity.

tneva82 wrote:

yukishiro1 wrote:
If you're assembling monopose models with no options plastic glue becomes more attractive. Anything that can be posed, I would never do it because more often than not I end up tweaking the pose on at least one model after I have a chance to think about it some more, and you can't easily do that with plastic glue.

Seeing you can move pieces while it's drying far longer than with superglue tweaking poses is easier with plastic glue.

No, as in I come back the next day, or a week later when I'm painting it, and realize that the angle on something needs to be changed.

The relatively inexpensive push fit models were - like many things GW does - a good idea poorly implemented.

If they'd released them as actual squads, and included a couple of options (it would be so easy to include special weapons), they could have had a really good beginners' range which could have been sold in the sort of toy shops which don't tend to carry mainline GW products. Alternatively, they would have made a great basis for Start Collecting sets (they're starter sets; so it stands to reason that they'd be simple kits, right..?) which weren't just bundles of existing product.

Instead they only released a handful of kits, only a couple of which still survive, and did nothing with the idea.

I've got 50+ of the cultists (doesn't everyone), and got a couple of boxes of the Guardsmen to avoid the horror of building/converting Cadians.

 waefre_1 wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
...Superglue's also handy as a first-aid tool if you poke yourself with a hobby knife, which plastic glue doesn't really help with, unfortunately.

If you're poking yourself badly enough that a band-aid isn't enough to do the trick, I think you'd probably want to reach for a phone to get a ride to a hospital instead of the superglue...

The reason you use the super glue is it allows you to get right back to work!

Im really not great at arts and crafts, I haven't tried plastic glue honestly, I use really good quality super-glue like gorilla glue. But when Im assembling my cadian squads, the easy-fit boxes of 5 are much less of a hassle for me than trying to assemble the box of 10. This is further exasperated by the fact that I typically don't even want the flamers/grenade launchers/vox casters, and I can get 2 sergeants in the 10 man box. From what I can tell games-workshop is moving away from easy-fit models, with the exception of their starter paint boxes including a few marines in them.

 generalchaos34 wrote:

Sobie wrote:
Check out the gel superglues sold by loctite or gorilla glue. I strongly prefer them to liquid super glue as they actually stay right where you place them.

loctite gel (in the blue/black triangle bottle) is my bread and butter of gaming. I prefer super glue so incase I make any mistakes or in the future weapon options become obsolete (or I fancy some new mods) I can just pop it off. Additionally for saving the model I find it to be INVALUABLE. Compared to the few times I have dropped a plastic glue model vs a super glue model 9/10 the super glue model comes out much safer. A plastic glue model has no room for give or to absorb force so whatever is the weakest part breaks. With super glue more often than not it just pops off an arm and the model itself keeps its integrity.

I second the loctite gel. Started using it years ago and haven't gone back.

Does people really broke off models that they have carefully painted just because GW nerfed them?

That seems so... anathema to whats this is all about. If you are gonna do that, why not just magnetize?

 Galas wrote:
Does people really broke off models that they have carefully painted just because GW nerfed them?

That seems so... anathema to whats this is all about. If you are gonna do that, why not just magnetize?

I do it, but not because GW nerfed it. Typically it is to try a conversion or change something up because it is illegal (not nerfed but outright unplayable because options were deleted).

Thanks to superglue, I was happily able to turn my Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount into an AOS model instead of throwing it in the trash for example.