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The low buzz makes sense - its a totally new thing and we so far have no idea what its going to have nor what quality the animations will have. Keeping in mind that GW's previous animation attempts were rather dire.


It's a huge body of unknown and the hype sort of burned out months and months ago with all the teases of the animations. Right now a lull before the storm makes sense.



Until we have clear details its all guesswork..

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Their marketing machine is failing them on this one. Nobody wants to wait until the day before release to find out all the pertinent details about Warhammer+ - how much it will cost, what will be available, what other services it will offer, and so on. This isn't an app like the army builder, this is an actual subscription service that (presumably) they'll try to charge $8-10/month for.
   
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If they do not at least consider putting there books or audio books on it I would be surprised. It’s there content that is most ready for a service like this.
   
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 Mr. Grey wrote:
Their marketing machine is failing them on this one. Nobody wants to wait until the day before release to find out all the pertinent details about Warhammer+ - how much it will cost, what will be available, what other services it will offer, and so on. This isn't an app like the army builder, this is an actual subscription service that (presumably) they'll try to charge $8-10/month for.

We don't know when it launches. We just know June 24th will mark a date where they'll be giving us more info.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
Their marketing machine is failing them on this one. Nobody wants to wait until the day before release to find out all the pertinent details about Warhammer+ - how much it will cost, what will be available, what other services it will offer, and so on. This isn't an app like the army builder, this is an actual subscription service that (presumably) they'll try to charge $8-10/month for.

We don't know when it launches. We just know June 24th will mark a date where they'll be giving us more info.


Exactly. And judging by this thread, there's not a huge lot of excitement for this, but rather quite a bit more "how are they going to pull this off?". Like I said, the GW marketing machine of trickling out information to build hype isn't working for them in this case.
   
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 Mr. Grey wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
Their marketing machine is failing them on this one. Nobody wants to wait until the day before release to find out all the pertinent details about Warhammer+ - how much it will cost, what will be available, what other services it will offer, and so on. This isn't an app like the army builder, this is an actual subscription service that (presumably) they'll try to charge $8-10/month for.

We don't know when it launches. We just know June 24th will mark a date where they'll be giving us more info.


Exactly. And judging by this thread, there's not a huge lot of excitement for this, but rather quite a bit more "how are they going to pull this off?". Like I said, the GW marketing machine of trickling out information to build hype isn't working for them in this case.


Depends when they are launching. If it’s 1st July I agree with you. If it’s Aug or Sept there’s plenty of time for buildup.
   
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 Mr. Grey wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
Their marketing machine is failing them on this one. Nobody wants to wait until the day before release to find out all the pertinent details about Warhammer+ - how much it will cost, what will be available, what other services it will offer, and so on. This isn't an app like the army builder, this is an actual subscription service that (presumably) they'll try to charge $8-10/month for.

We don't know when it launches. We just know June 24th will mark a date where they'll be giving us more info.


Exactly. And judging by this thread, there's not a huge lot of excitement for this, but rather quite a bit more "how are they going to pull this off?". Like I said, the GW marketing machine of trickling out information to build hype isn't working for them in this case.


Don't forget the internet is often a touch more morbid than reality and that this is Dakka which can be touch more morbid in general when it comes to GW stuff as well

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Sure, but insta and twitter isn't much more excited. There seems to be a lot of "meh" instead of "can't wait!"
   
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Cronch wrote:
Sure, but insta and twitter isn't much more excited. There seems to be a lot of "meh" instead of "can't wait!"


Yeah that's cause we burned out of "can't wait" a year or two ago on this project of the animations coming out. It's a slow burn release and we are now in the calm before the storm where GW hasn't got much to say really until they ramp up the marketing 1m/1w from launch.

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Pretty sure they said it was launching end of July with more news in June?

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 Overread wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
Their marketing machine is failing them on this one. Nobody wants to wait until the day before release to find out all the pertinent details about Warhammer+ - how much it will cost, what will be available, what other services it will offer, and so on. This isn't an app like the army builder, this is an actual subscription service that (presumably) they'll try to charge $8-10/month for.

We don't know when it launches. We just know June 24th will mark a date where they'll be giving us more info.


Exactly. And judging by this thread, there's not a huge lot of excitement for this, but rather quite a bit more "how are they going to pull this off?". Like I said, the GW marketing machine of trickling out information to build hype isn't working for them in this case.


Don't forget the internet is often a touch more morbid than reality and that this is Dakka which can be touch more morbid in general when it comes to GW stuff as well


Can you imagine if GW made their decisions on how popular things were gonna be based on Dakka’s response.

Here is a small portion of people, the internet fans a slightly bigger portion.
And then there’s the huge actual “Warhammer Fanbase” who are likely already halfway in for this.
Some just go into stores, some might also check Warhammer Community as well, then there’s more who also watch YouTube etc.
Then finally, the group that frequents forums.
   
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Facebook wrote:Warhammer+ offers so much more than animations – find out all about it on the 23rd of June. In the meantime, say "hello" to the stars of Angels of Death: https://bit.ly/3idzRNQ
   
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Danny76 wrote:
 Overread wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Mr. Grey wrote:
Their marketing machine is failing them on this one. Nobody wants to wait until the day before release to find out all the pertinent details about Warhammer+ - how much it will cost, what will be available, what other services it will offer, and so on. This isn't an app like the army builder, this is an actual subscription service that (presumably) they'll try to charge $8-10/month for.

We don't know when it launches. We just know June 24th will mark a date where they'll be giving us more info.


Exactly. And judging by this thread, there's not a huge lot of excitement for this, but rather quite a bit more "how are they going to pull this off?". Like I said, the GW marketing machine of trickling out information to build hype isn't working for them in this case.


Don't forget the internet is often a touch more morbid than reality and that this is Dakka which can be touch more morbid in general when it comes to GW stuff as well


Can you imagine if GW made their decisions on how popular things were gonna be based on Dakka’s response.

Here is a small portion of people, the internet fans a slightly bigger portion.
And then there’s the huge actual “Warhammer Fanbase” who are likely already halfway in for this.
Some just go into stores, some might also check Warhammer Community as well, then there’s more who also watch YouTube etc.
Then finally, the group that frequents forums.


Yup I can imagine GW behaviour not being very different from what is now if they followed Dakkas opinions... we are pretty much all or nothing when it comes to opinion and so Is GW in therms of what they do and communicate...

   
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I don’t think you should use Dakkadakka as your bar for what people are exited for.

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Danny76 wrote:

Can you imagine if GW made their decisions on how popular things were gonna be based on Dakka’s response.

Here is a small portion of people, the internet fans a slightly bigger portion.
And then there’s the huge actual “Warhammer Fanbase” who are likely already halfway in for this.
Some just go into stores, some might also check Warhammer Community as well, then there’s more who also watch YouTube etc.
Then finally, the group that frequents forums.

Seriously, it's 2021, who still does this?
   
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GW is remarkably greedy and positions itself to regularly offer the least value they can for their products.

So while it would make sense for them to consolidate their subscriptions and try and offer value, there's a good chance they don't because they see people paying 60 dollars for a codex and go "These morons will buy anything we put out"
   
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stratigo wrote:
GW is remarkably greedy and positions itself to regularly offer the least value they can for their products.
Hate to say it mate but that's just how capitalism works.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
stratigo wrote:
GW is remarkably greedy and positions itself to regularly offer the least value they can for their products.
Hate to say it mate but that's just how capitalism works.


This isn't a good thing.

A company like GW can also only get away with as much as it is let to.

I suspect if all warhammer tv is is just a few animated shows it will belly flop. The problem is companies often go "Make a mistake in our monetization? No, obviously there's just no consumers".

Of warhammer tv plus wants success, they need enough value to attract more than whales (well the biggest whales, most people in the hobby are whales of some capacity.)

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An idiot observes.

No painting tutorials on YouTube for Kragnos. Or Kroak. Or indeed anything recent.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
An idiot observes.

No painting tutorials on YouTube for Kragnos. Or Kroak. Or indeed anything recent.


Meh, the only person about whose painting tutorials i really cared about left GW a good while ago.

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I’m spazzy in the hands. I need tutorials. Spesh for a £100 model!

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m spazzy in the hands. I need tutorials. Spesh for a £100 model!


Well you can probably find good painting tutorials by people that aren't GW on YouTube.

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m spazzy in the hands. I need tutorials. Spesh for a £100 model!


Well you can probably find good painting tutorials by people that aren't GW on YouTube.


Tried that. Zilch.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m spazzy in the hands. I need tutorials. Spesh for a £100 model!


Well you can probably find good painting tutorials by people that aren't GW on YouTube.


Tried that. Zilch.


That's what happens when GW sends new releases to random YT people that may or may not be painters a day before general release.

It's been a complaint from many a Youtuber that they never get anything in time to make a video ahead of time, let alone paint the stuff.



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 TalonZahn wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m spazzy in the hands. I need tutorials. Spesh for a £100 model!


Well you can probably find good painting tutorials by people that aren't GW on YouTube.


Tried that. Zilch.


That's what happens when GW sends new releases to random YT people that may or may not be painters a day before general release.

It's been a complaint from many a Youtuber that they never get anything in time to make a video ahead of time, let alone paint the stuff.


Doug from 2+ tough has had to rush some videos or push them back. most notably for Kragnos.

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Yeah was trying to find some tuts for you on tube and could not find any so far. Only unboxing and noticed the model is considerably smaller than I thought it would be?, take off the rock and is the height of a giant? Not £100 worth.

   
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 NAVARRO wrote:
Yeah was trying to find some tuts for you on tube and could not find any so far. Only unboxing and noticed the model is considerably smaller than I thought it would be?, take off the rock and is the height of a giant? Not £100 worth.

Heh, yeah, tell that to GW.
   
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 TalonZahn wrote:


That's what happens when GW sends new releases to random YT people that may or may not be painters a day before general release.

It's been a complaint from many a Youtuber that they never get anything in time to make a video ahead of time, let alone paint the stuff.


Cry me a river that people who are getting free stuff from GW aren't getting it in time to have a full painting tutorial ready to drop on release day.
   
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That is the point of a NDA and review products, to get them in time to have a full review and everything else ready on launch

Maybe Nvidia should also send their review cards out 1 day before launch so that not a single video/article is ready outside the internal marketing stuff

and yes you should blame the reviewer for being too late and not grateful enough for receiving a review product

GW just don't want independent reviews and painting videos to be ready on day 1

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 Mr. Grey wrote:
 TalonZahn wrote:
That's what happens when GW sends new releases to random YT people that may or may not be painters a day before general release.

It's been a complaint from many a Youtuber that they never get anything in time to make a video ahead of time, let alone paint the stuff.


Cry me a river that people who are getting free stuff from GW aren't getting it in time to have a full painting tutorial ready to drop on release day.

You don't really get the why behind why these people are getting free stuff, do you?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
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