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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
And screenshots won't come easily it looks like. App has anti screenshot feature

But…..one can take a pic of one’s screen on one’s phone.

Voila! But please note Louise didn’t paint the head like that. It’s a mock up she created to explain the colour theory thing of faces.

Sure i could take photo of screen with 2nd phone. But at least for my phone they block it. Just black square as result.

tneva82 wrote:
And screenshots won't come easily it looks like. App has anti screenshot feature

Curiously the PC player has no DRM at all. A little bit of stream obfuscation using transport stream but it's trivially downloadable.

(FWIW there's not an "anti screenshot" feature, so much as the app turns on secure surfaces to try and prevent screen recording, which is very common for subscription video apps. But if you block the OS's access to the video feed to block screen recording the OS can't see it to do a screenshot. Still, that does seem a little bit of a waste of time when you're sending unencrypted mp4s to Chrome for Windows.).

On the subject of lipsync that was raised a page or so back by Mad Doc - I wonder if it was caused by the animation being made before the audio? The lips are clearly made for english speaking lip sync, but the slight out of alignment might mean that the audio was recorded after (when normally its done before and then animation put to it).

Who knows it might be one of the "corona delay/issue" things from last year or perhaps GW signed some far better voice actors late and swapped the audio over?




Edit - also (and this is from others as I don't use the app) if you signed up to the 40K app and paid this month, when you upgrade to Warhammer+ the system refunds you your Warhammer 40K app charge for this month.


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 The Phazer wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
And screenshots won't come easily it looks like. App has anti screenshot feature

Curiously the PC player has no DRM at all. A little bit of stream obfuscation using transport stream but it's trivially downloadable..

GW doesn't tend to use DRM from what I've seen. Their Black Library books bought from BL are just a downloadable book, no system or DRM in place. You only get it if you buy from Amazon store and then its the standard Kindle DRM system.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
Not brilliant that the "top company" they've had working on this wasn't able to sort out an Android TV app for launch when there's a Fire TV app.

It's not quite zero porting required between the two, but it's not much in the grand scheme of things and it rather suggests a rushed, badly planned launch.

Did they ever reveal who the "top company" is? I wouldn't be surprised to learn its a middling but established company that nobody has ever actually heard of

No, but I'll figure it out within half an hour of the app going live.

So, whats your verdict?

It's Brightcove. Brightcove are very big in the online player market, but not very big in subscription video services because their content protection offerings generally are a bit clunky and uncompetitive if you want studio level DRM. So I guess if GW were telling the truth depends on your POV a bit.

deano2099 wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

Agreed, I understood your point quite clearly - I have to assume these guys are trolling you or intentionally mischaracterizing the nature of your point, otherwise their reading comprehension is awful. Its supposed to be an agri-world, i.e. open fields, barns, bales of hay, dilapidated wood/stone fences, cattle pens, etc. Instead it looks like a semi-industrial city. As someone else pointed out, its entirely possible that this represents the market square of a nearby village, the processing area of an industrial farm operation, or even an area of the planets capital, etc. So its not entirely out of the question that this does represent a scene from an agri-world, just not the "stereotype" of what you expect an agriworld to look like.

No, it's supposed to be the battle of Iax, which takes place in the capital city of an agriworld, and is documented in great detail in a novel that came out months ago - and the place the battle takes place looks pretty much like that board.
I can totally see why someone might not realise that, certainly not everyone is going to have read the book. And yes, "agriworld" does sound like you'd expect something else without that context. But what I can't understand is that when someone politely points that out the battle they're recreating happens in a city, the reaction isn't to go "oh fair enough, haven't read it," but to double down, to say that's bad reading comprehension or trolling, or to come up with conspiracy theories about how that's justification after the fact for using the gakky GW terrain boards, when the book was written a year ago.
The battle and its setting are described in great detail over 50 pages or so of Godblight. It doesn't take place on farmland. Might have been cool if it did, but it didn't.
There is no argument here, other than "a rural battle would have been cooler than an industrial one". People are inferring stuff about the setting from one word in the marketing copy when there's 20,000 words written that describe it in great detail. There's no need.

All well and good, doesn't really justify the immediate responses that Wha got. He didn't get "the battle takes place in the planetary capital", he got "how dare you judge this while its still unpainted, once its done it might be painted in dirt roads and look more rural".

tneva82 wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
]. Its supposed to be an agri-world, i.e. open fields, barns, bales of hay, dilapidated wood/stone fences, cattle pens, etc. Instead it looks like a semi-industrial city. As someone else pointed out, its entirely possible that this represents the market square of a nearby village, the processing area of an industrial farm operation, or even an area of the planets capital, etc. So its not entirely out of the question that this does represent a scene from an agri-world, just not the "stereotype" of what you expect an agriworld to look like.

Ah yes. Battle taking in capital city(as per fluff of battle. You HAVE read it right?) Looks like farm, forest etc...since when?

How many capitals in our world has barns and hay???

Really? Not even north korea or afganistan have such capitals.

You have weird ideas on what capital cities(you did of course know where story takes place since you critique. Surely you wouldn't do that without knowing fluff of battle in question) looks like.

Yeah, so your reading comprehension really is awful. Read what I wrote again and keep re-reading it until you understand why your reply is a non-sequitur and doesn't actually make sense in the context of what I wrote.

Racerguy180 wrote:
Wow, 2 free months of something that isn't worth the free part....

Such wonderous times we live in.

So in order to get people to sign up they need:
£10 voucher
2 free months

Man the sheer value they've given everyone!

Well, if you want to break it down fiscally, I've bought a £10 voucher, pre-ordered a £25 mini and paid £15 for 12 months of animations, battle reports, painting guides, lore dives, a book back catalogue and access to (eventually) 2 army building apps.

The app won't broadcast to my roku, good thing I also have a few vizio tvs. The broadcast button is kinda bugged. I solved that by waiting 15 seconds of playing an episode before clicking on it.

Sad that all the hammer and bolter episodes has the same quality as old bale eye. Maybe it's quantity over quality? Angels of death series is amazing

chaos0xomega wrote:

Yeah, so your reading comprehension really is awful. Read what I wrote again and keep re-reading it until you understand why your reply is a non-sequitur and doesn't actually make sense in the context of what I wrote.

You claim battle　should have barns and hays as it's on agriworld.


But got it. You haven't read, don't have any clue and are just on dishonest rant and now trying to cover up that you are talking crap.

Barnfields and farms indeed.

Next time read fluff of battle before critiquing battlefield. Maybe that way your writings might be 2 digit % in terms of making sense


Quoting you: Its supposed to be an agri-world, i.e. open fields, barns, bales of hay, dilapidated wood/stone fences, cattle pens, etc.

No it's　not. Agriworld is big place which isn't uniform. It has stuff like capital cities etc. Board is supposed to look like it's described in novel.

Surely you aren't silly enough to think entire planet looks same? So desert planet has just dunes and that's it?

(hint. Desert planets would still generallw have greens and even seas. Planets aren"t uniform. That before adding　in human built stuff like buildings)

tneva82 wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

Yeah, so your reading comprehension really is awful. Read what I wrote again and keep re-reading it until you understand why your reply is a non-sequitur and doesn't actually make sense in the context of what I wrote.

You claim battle　should have barns and hays as it's on agriworld.


But got it. You haven't read, don't have any clue and are just on dishonest rant and now trying to cover up that you are talking crap.

Barnfields and farms indeed.

Next time read fluff of battle before critiquing battlefield. Maybe that way your writings might be 2 digit % in terms of making sense

gonna side with Tneva here. people looked at that and said "IT'S ON IAX AN AGRIWORLD BUT IT HAS AN INDUSTRUAL LOOK IT SUCKS!"

when anyone whose actually read the novel describing the battle in case knows that the battle was largely a siege of the planetary capital/space port.

Feels like the last 6 pages of argument could have been avoided if the article had simply stated something like "This battle report features a conflict between Guilliman and Mortarion, who faced off in climactic battle in the capital city of Iax, an Imperial agri-world."

 Mr. Grey wrote:
Feels like the last 6 pages of argument could have been avoided if the article had simply stated something like "This battle report features a conflict between Guilliman and Mortarion, who faced off in climactic battle in the capital city of Iax, an Imperial agri-world."

Like they wouldn’t have just found something else to argue about

Dakka people doing what dakka people do coulda been avoided if only someone else had done this specific thing differently, you bet Champ.

So I’ve binged everything but the How To Plays.

It’s true the launch content is a bit thin. But I’ve enjoyed and appreciated everything on there.

And y’know, over a month? It’s like a live action copy of White Dwarf. Painting tutorials, animated short stories, battle reports. And once Loremasters debuts, some (hopefully) crunchy background stuff.

Can’t say I’m feeling short changed at the moment, but the mileage of others will vary.

 Mr. Grey wrote:
Feels like the last 6 pages of argument could have been avoided if the article had simply stated something like "This battle report features a conflict between Guilliman and Mortarion, who faced off in climactic battle in the capital city of Iax, an Imperial agri-world."

People going after each other is like half the fun of the Internet though.

*Insert Godzilla meme* "Let them fight."

I was and wasn't surprised with the amount of animation and battle report content that was on to start. I think they have been ambitious with how thin it is to be honest in reality, but I wasn't expecting much more.

What is slightly surprising is the likes of astartes etc not already being on there, that would have been an easy and quick win surely?

Anyway, it depends how much and the frequency they Intend to pump out per week, 2x episodes a week plus a battle report is the minimum standard we should get I would hope. If not, and it's more bi-weekly, well... I want a bloody exclusive mini on the level of the Vindicare every year as a bare minimum for my subscription.

Death's Hands was great though, I really enjoyed it, maybe some of the lore was being stretched, but it was still enjoyable and some of the lore insights within it were great.

I also wonder why they keep Astartis on the community site but not also add it on the app

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So I’ve binged everything but the How To Plays.

It’s true the launch content is a bit thin. But I’ve enjoyed and appreciated everything on there.

And y’know, over a month? It’s like a live action copy of White Dwarf. Painting tutorials, animated short stories, battle reports. And once Loremasters debuts, some (hopefully) crunchy background stuff.

Can’t say I’m feeling short changed at the moment, but the mileage of others will vary.

I am actually looking forward to the Loremasters videos. I also agree that this feels like a White Dwarf streaming service, something I am quite happy with.

tneva82 wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

Yeah, so your reading comprehension really is awful. Read what I wrote again and keep re-reading it until you understand why your reply is a non-sequitur and doesn't actually make sense in the context of what I wrote.

You claim battle　should have barns and hays as it's on agriworld.


But got it. You haven't read, don't have any clue and are just on dishonest rant and now trying to cover up that you are talking crap.

Barnfields and farms indeed.

Next time read fluff of battle before critiquing battlefield. Maybe that way your writings might be 2 digit % in terms of making sense


Quoting you: Its supposed to be an agri-world, i.e. open fields, barns, bales of hay, dilapidated wood/stone fences, cattle pens, etc.

No it's　not. Agriworld is big place which isn't uniform. It has stuff like capital cities etc. Board is supposed to look like it's described in novel.

Surely you aren't silly enough to think entire planet looks same? So desert planet has just dunes and that's it?

(hint. Desert planets would still generallw have greens and even seas. Planets aren"t uniform. That before adding　in human built stuff like buildings)

*eyeroll*

Try reading it again.

"Its supposed to be an agri-world, i.e. open fields, barns, bales of hay, dilapidated wood/stone fences, cattle pens, etc. Instead it looks like a semi-industrial city.""

I.E. This is me agreeing with Whamu that the board looks a-typical for an agriworld.

"As someone else pointed out, its entirely possible that this represents the market square of a nearby village, the processing area of an industrial farm operation, or even an area of the planets capital, etc. "

I.E. This is me pointing out, despite my agreement with Whamu and in agreement with another poster here, that even an agriworld will have areas that look like the board GW previewed.

"So its not entirely out of the question that this does represent a scene from an agri-world, just not the "stereotype" of what you expect an agriworld to look like."

I.E. This is me continuing to affirm what I said in the sentence prior, that even an agriworld will have urban areas that look like the board previewed.

Learn to read.

Honestly - its embarassing that you think I am on some "dishonest rant" (if you want to talk about a rant, try reading your own posts) and "trying to cover up" when what I said was clear as day and very much *not* what you thought it said.


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 The Phazer wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
Not brilliant that the "top company" they've had working on this wasn't able to sort out an Android TV app for launch when there's a Fire TV app.

It's not quite zero porting required between the two, but it's not much in the grand scheme of things and it rather suggests a rushed, badly planned launch.

Did they ever reveal who the "top company" is? I wouldn't be surprised to learn its a middling but established company that nobody has ever actually heard of

No, but I'll figure it out within half an hour of the app going live.

So, whats your verdict?

It's Brightcove. Brightcove are very big in the online player market, but not very big in subscription video services because their content protection offerings generally are a bit clunky and uncompetitive if you want studio level DRM. So I guess if GW were telling the truth depends on your POV a bit.

Interesting! Never heard of them before, but it sounds like they are a bigger firm, just not necessarily one you would think for in the context of what GW is trying to do here.

Anyone had any luck getting the app working on a firestick?

I get to the activation step but it says there is already a device with that name registered to the service (not my device).

Has anyone found any credits for the animated episodes? I almost feel like GW might be putting themselves up for legal case by omitting proper credits.

Subscribed for the first month just to see how it's like.

I didn't realize that Warhammer Visions was such a nice mag! Much prefer it to the current incarnation of White Dwarf. Pics only, and some really gorgeous models in every issue.

AoD seems decent enough.. when is Ep2 out?

I could see WH TV becoming a real "cable tv" channel, once they accumulate tons of content.. So at least in that sense, the name fits.

Aeneades wrote:
Anyone had any luck getting the app working on a firestick?

I get to the activation step but it says there is already a device with that name registered to the service (not my device).

If you have any problems or need assistance, please email their support team at: gwapps@gwplc.com

Next Wednesday.

chaos0xomega wrote:

"So its not entirely out of the question that this does represent a scene from an agri-world, just not the "stereotype" of what you expect an agriworld to look like."

I.E. This is me continuing to affirm what I said in the sentence prior, that even an agriworld will have urban areas that look like the board previewed.

There's no "question" for it to be entirely in or out of. It's a battle documented in a book that takes place in an urban area, and by the time you posted that multiple people on the thread had told you that.

It *does* represent a scene from an agri world, and the battle does take place in an area atypical of what much of an agri-world looks like. There's no question to be had. Why still present it that way? Why "I might be wrong" and not just "I was wrong" ?

I mean I understand why, people don't want to lose an argument on the internet, but it's weird to keep bringing it up time and again and saying people didn't comprehend what you were saying, when you got it wrong. It's okay to be wrong. I thought the same thing as you did at first then connected what the battle was and checked the book.

I would be surprised to see creator credits on GW stuff. Not because of some silly "GW is evil and wants all the credit" thing but because the fanbase is incredibly toxic and has shown in the past that it can and will do illegal things to creators people deem "bad".

Aeneades wrote:
Anyone had any luck getting the app working on a firestick?

I get to the activation step but it says there is already a device with that name registered to the service (not my device).

Working fine for me

Talking the business side of Warhammer TV specifically.

Wouldn't hammer and bolter, considering they're fairly accessible stories by the looks of things, without the need to know extensive knowledge of the lore to understand the premise, wouldn't GW have been best served licensing that out to Netflix etc to draw more people into the hobby still?

I'm not suggesting they couldn't have warhammer tv as well per say, but it does seem like a trick has been missed by blocking it all behind a paywall that only people aware of the hobby would ever subscribe to. There's strong rumours that the EPL (football/soccer league in the UK) will eventually have their own subscription service, ending their arrangements with sky/BT etc as there is just too much money left on the table still by partnering with them, that could go direct to the clubs if they had their own product, so GW will be the master of their own destinies and ability to accrue revenue from their IP, but still... It seems like a huge trick has been missed to bring more into the hobby.

Vorian wrote:

Aeneades wrote:
Anyone had any luck getting the app working on a firestick?

I get to the activation step but it says there is already a device with that name registered to the service (not my device).

Working fine for me

I left it an hour and works fine now.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Talking the business side of Warhammer TV specifically.

Wouldn't hammer and bolter, considering they're fairly accessible stories by the looks of things, without the need to know extensive knowledge of the lore to understand the premise, wouldn't GW have been best served licensing that out to Netflix etc to draw more people into the hobby still?

I think it's clear in case of WHTV GW prioritized getting more money out of existing customers over seeking new ones.

I mean GW's customer base kind of rocketed in the last year so I don't think it's something the company needs to worry about.