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 Arbitrator wrote:
Something about the chap in focus just looks really... off. I can't tell if his head just looks tiny or what.

Yeah. Like most 9th edition covers so far, it doesn't particularly make me want to crusade. More just point and laugh.
The centerpiece guy is egregiously mis-proportioned, though.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
If they are all meant to be primaris, the flamer in the background right is quite interesting

Well spotted.

New Gravis flamer unit? Or a Helblaster equivalent, but with 3 flavours of flamer?

Hopefully, if true, not BT specific.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
If they are all meant to be primaris, the flamer in the background right is quite interesting

Well spotted.

New Gravis flamer unit? Or a Helblaster equivalent, but with 3 flavours of flamer?

Hopefully, if true, not BT specific.

Hellfury? Or just an option for the crusader squad to take a flamer?

MobileSuitRandom wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Can anyone tell if the flag in the back matches the rumor engine skeleton with the "W"? I keep flip-flopping on whether it matches or not

Seems so, doesn't it? Here, for reference

Huh yeah, W for 'Witch' maybe?

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Absolute peak of Space Marine proportions

Agreed 100%, that's certainly the Primaris of Necks if I ever saw one.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Love it. Looks like regular Monday updates for BT as well, so hopefully Crusaders/SB next week.

Nope. Sunday's pre-order announcement will be for the Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans battletomes as GW confirmed them for an August pre-order back near the release of Dominion.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Love it. Looks like regular Monday updates for BT as well, so hopefully Crusaders/SB next week.

Nope. Sunday's pre-order announcement will be for the Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans battletomes as GW confirmed them for an August pre-order back near the release of Dominion.

I think Marshall meant Crusaders/SB for the Monday update, not for pre-orders.

Man, I'm so nervous about this. I've waited since the beginning of me being in this hobby for any kind of lovin' for the Templars and...

...like I guess I'm cautiously optimistic about an upgrade sprue/transfers? Templars don't have any transfers available RN, other than on the 30k fists one, which is less than ideal, and as much as I love the current plastic upgrade (I'd love if GW could just stop retiring things), I think some new bits in crisper cut plastic would be great too (and rather selfishly I have plenty of the current bits in my bits box).
But at the same time, while part of me was looking forward to de-embiggening some primaris marines into proper marines, the Emperor's Champion(I'd maybe??? steal the head, and the hands, but there's nothing else really there that's enviable, he doesn't even have purity seals)? This codex cover with bikeshorts chaplain-helmets-but-not-chaplains as neophytes? Sword Brother Giraffe-stein-ius? It doesn't fill me with a ton of confidence about how they're gonna treat my boys, the best chapter in 40k.

I want, with like, 6? 7? years of longing, for this to be a banging release, to see some kickass new bits and details, maybe a new character, and lord knows how much I wanted for a unique unit, or for Sword Brethren to be a thing other than just "here's a box of squad leaders have fun", or a way to make scouts and neophytes a bit less visually dry and more medieval. I fear that after all my waiting, I might be left high and dry, and that sucks man. GW, please prove me wrong.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Love it. Looks like regular Monday updates for BT as well, so hopefully Crusaders/SB next week.

Nope. Sunday's pre-order announcement will be for the Stormcast Eternals and Orruk Warclans battletomes as GW confirmed them for an August pre-order back near the release of Dominion.

I think Marshall meant Crusaders/SB for the Monday update, not for pre-orders.

Yep

 posermcbogus wrote:
Man, I'm so nervous about this. I've waited since the beginning of me being in this hobby for any kind of lovin' for the Templars and...

...like I guess I'm cautiously optimistic about an upgrade sprue/transfers? Templars don't have any transfers available RN, other than on the 30k fists one, which is less than ideal, and as much as I love the current plastic upgrade (I'd love if GW could just stop retiring things), I think some new bits in crisper cut plastic would be great too (and rather selfishly I have plenty of the current bits in my bits box).
But at the same time, while part of me was looking forward to de-embiggening some primaris marines into proper marines, the Emperor's Champion(I'd maybe??? steal the head, and the hands, but there's nothing else really there that's enviable, he doesn't even have purity seals)? This codex cover with bikeshorts chaplain-helmets-but-not-chaplains as neophytes? Sword Brother Giraffe-stein-ius? It doesn't fill me with a ton of confidence about how they're gonna treat my boys, the best chapter in 40k.

I want, with like, 6? 7? years of longing, for this to be a banging release, to see some kickass new bits and details, maybe a new character, and lord knows how much I wanted for a unique unit, or for Sword Brethren to be a thing other than just "here's a box of squad leaders have fun", or a way to make scouts and neophytes a bit less visually dry and more medieval. I fear that after all my waiting, I might be left high and dry, and that sucks man. GW, please prove me wrong.

If you don't like Primaris and think of this release as a means of getting new bits, I expect there won't be much point in any of the actual kits for you. They'll be all Primaris with steep price tags. Might be cool stuff in there, but you'll probably be looking at bits sellers here. Considering Templars will have access to the regular Primaris kits, I hope there will be an upgrade sprue for them like other chapters have in addition to their unique units, though. Would be weird if there wasn't unless Crusaders/Sword Brethren have extra bits in the kits that are meant to be used for other models. I could see GW do that, as they may believe locking shoulder pads in more expensive kits might make them more money. We'll see soon enough, I guess.

On the bright side, I don't think the codex cover art has any bearing on the quality of the models, so there's that.

 Geifer wrote:
On the bright side, I don't think the codex cover art has any bearing on the quality of the models, so there's that.

Other than Marshall Extenta Faucium, what's wrong with the cover art?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
On the bright side, I don't think the codex cover art has any bearing on the quality of the models, so there's that.

Other than Marshall Extenta Faucium, what's wrong with the cover art?

Not a whole lot, I think. Someone said Cap'n Longneck also has scrawny arms, and posermcbogus doesn't seem to be a fan of Phobos armor for Neophytes. I don't remember anything else standing out.

I’m curious why the art has them storming an imperial world/city/palace?
Chaos got a new codex

dogfender wrote:
I’m curious why the art has them storming an imperial world/city/palace?
Chaos got a new codex

Some scribe missed a comma that COMPLETELY changed the tone of a report to the High Lords of Terra.

Never short cut on peer review and proof reading.

dogfender wrote:
I’m curious why the art has them storming an imperial world/city/palace?
Chaos got a new codex

Because they were singing their psalms in Low Gothic and the Black Templars sing theirs in High Gothic.

If you kill the loyalists then they can’t turn traitor later.

alphaecho wrote:

dogfender wrote:
I’m curious why the art has them storming an imperial world/city/palace?
Chaos got a new codex

Some scribe missed a comma that COMPLETELY changed the tone of a report to the High Lords of Terra.

Never short cut on peer review and proof reading.

Let's eat Grandma
(Punctuation is important)

 Theophony wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

dogfender wrote:
I’m curious why the art has them storming an imperial world/city/palace?
Chaos got a new codex

Some scribe missed a comma that COMPLETELY changed the tone of a report to the High Lords of Terra.

Never short cut on peer review and proof reading.

Let's eat Grandma
(Punctuation is important)

Uncle Jack and horses springs to mind...

A new weapon for the Black Templars:

How many variants of flamer are in the game, by now? These kinda bespoke weapon craze leaves me very, very cold, ironically enough in this case.

 Ghaz wrote:
A new weapon for the Black Templars:

That profile matches the B&C rumour dump, which said there would be a new 15" AP -1 flamer weapon

So it seems that the rumours about the new flamer and more importantly the dedicated primaris crusader kit were true. Probably the rest is true as well then. Too bad they didn't show any more models. How long they're gonna drag this out?

Did we really need dedicated Primaris units for sub-sub-factions?

Well, they still have:
Sword brethern
and
HQs

so hopefully not too much longer

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Did we really need dedicated Primaris units for sub-sub-factions?

As much or as little as for regular marines, would be my guess?

Yeah, why add actual options to subfactions so they aren't just some special rules and Characters? /s
This looks to be shaping up like a good supplement IMO.

Wonder if this means we'll finally see the Hellfuries released?

 Crimson wrote:
Too bad they didn't show any more models. How long they're gonna drag this out?

They've been showing a single new model every Monday for a while now. The rest will probably come in a studio preview, probably at Gencon if not before.

 Gert wrote:
Yeah, why add actual options to subfactions so they aren't just some special rules and Characters? /s
This looks to be shaping up like a good supplement IMO.

Hopefully the other supplements will see something similar. Even if it's just weapon options via upgrade sprues or whatever.

Ugh.

Look at the way the cloth interacts with the kneepad.

Looks like they'll have the bladeguard "under armor" robes as well. At least it fits better with BT than something like DA

On one hand, it sucks that it's a BT-only thing.

But on the other hand, it's good because it means that we don't have a weird situation where there's a Marine unit not in the Marine Codex, necessitating a whole series of slow updates to all the other armies (ala the Psychic Awakening books, that contained tons of reprints of just the same Datasheets for each flavour of Marines).

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
If they are all meant to be primaris, the flamer in the background right is quite interesting

You called it!