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If GW is going to spam us at the meme-primaris Lt. level, warlocks would be my preference.

You can use one or two in a list, or full squads of them.

I would like to see the bonesinger get a new model and out of legends. I got him when he was on MTO a while back. He actually fills a unique roll in the army.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Let’s take this to the background forum

But it will wither and die there.

 Arschbombe wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Let’s take this to the background forum

But it will wither and die there.

Seems appropriate for the Eldar race

Banshee datasheet is on the first page, if a bit fuzzy. Good for confirmations.

We know so much about this release, it feels odd. There are still a ton of little unknowns they could change in the codex, but I feel we have a pretty good picture. Just release it and take my money!

Banshees are looking pretty damned good these days!

Still fragile, but hitting more like a ton of bricks.

Mostly played wraith units last edition, but will be fun to return to my original eldar roots of aspect warriors. Have scorps, dragons, new banshees to build and plan to pick up new reapers and spears. Only challenge is spiders which will probably be a kitbash until they release plastic. Have old metal avengers but also 10 "new" ones to add to lineup.

Particularly cool for me are the Banshees Masks forcing the charged unit to fight last of all.

Means I’d be a bit more confident in using a small squad to help say, Storm Guardians in tackling a numerically superior foe.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Banshees are looking pretty damned good these days!

Still fragile, but hitting more like a ton of bricks.

Inherently -1 to hit with a 5++ and the speed to make it where they need to be without loitering out in the open should help a lot to keep them alive.

True, but you remain one incautious failed charged from being rapidly hosed down.

Just like in 2nd Ed, they’re something your opponent is gonna want to deal with before they get a chance to strut their funky stuff.

Yup, still little T3 squishy bits.

Hopefully they can actually carve things open for their points. If not it looks like they should still work as a tarpit and tagging stuff in melee.

They may be surprisingly useful for chopping up already damaged Tanks?

I mean, they’re S4 with their Power Swords. And it’s not +1 S for Whirling Deff, it’s +1 to wound.

And with A3 base? 15 could be enough to Cow Tip a damaged Dreadnought? It would of course be risky, but it’s still an entirely new potential for them.

"Now will you buy our $90 Banshee box?"

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Now will you buy our $90 Banshee box?"

I bought one when they came out, but it was hard. I wanted to reward GW for finally getting around to redoing eldar in plastic, but vote with my wallet about the price point. Looks like they realized there was money to be made in the range, so that’s a victory.

I’d like another box of banshees, but will only pick them up in a discounted bundle box. What they are asking for the stand alone box is still crazy.

Their mask doesn't seem to have the -1 to attack for the enemy like the Autarch does. Still not clear if that's a change for all masks from the Omen's rules, or like the hint with the fusion gun in yesterday's article that the Autarch just does it all better.

 Nevelon wrote:


We know so much about this release, it feels odd. There are still a ton of little unknowns they could change in the codex, but I feel we have a pretty good picture. Just release it and take my money!

The main one for me is the Autarch datasheet, is it oddly restrictive like the one in Eldritch Omens? If it is then the Autarch used on the cover art is not game legal.

Khahandran wrote:
Their mask doesn't seem to have the -1 to attack for the enemy like the Autarch does. Still not clear if that's a change for all masks from the Omen's rules, or like the hint with the fusion gun in yesterday's article that the Autarch just does it all better.

Autarch one we’ve seen may simply be a place holder prior to the Codex proper.

Plus, the Autarch’s one just replicates the Acrobatic rule Bumshees have natively.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Now will you buy our $90 Banshee box?"

No. But I’ll but the £32.50 one. At a discount. From element. Other webstores are available

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Khahandran wrote:
Their mask doesn't seem to have the -1 to attack for the enemy like the Autarch does. Still not clear if that's a change for all masks from the Omen's rules, or like the hint with the fusion gun in yesterday's article that the Autarch just does it all better.

Autarch one we’ve seen may simply be a place holder prior to the Codex proper.

Plus, the Autarch’s one just replicates the Acrobatic rule Bumshees have natively.

No, the Autarch one had a minus to attacks characteristics.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Now will you buy our $90 Banshee box?"

No. But I’ll but the £32.50 one. At a discount. From element. Other webstores are available

25% discount from Dark Sphere works out as $46 AUD

Curiouser and curiouser.

It’s adding some to the theory that we’re yet to see the full Autarch data sheet thing.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Curiouser and curiouser.

It’s adding some to the theory that we’re yet to see the full Autarch data sheet thing.

Worth mentioning that the Autarch's initial preview video talked about getting yours from the "Craftworld Command" box...which might just be both of the Autarch models in the same box.

Totally missed that myself.

Probably because I didn’t watch that vid to be fair.

 Nevelon wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Now will you buy our $90 Banshee box?"

I bought one when they came out, but it was hard. I wanted to reward GW for finally getting around to redoing eldar in plastic, but vote with my wallet about the price point.

They're not paying attention to how many boxes you the individual bought. Should've voted WAY harder with your wallet because they would've redone the range at some point anyway.

Hmmm Howling Banshees, Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers, Wraithguard, and Wraithblades all seem like great elite choices this edition. I also wonder what the Dire Avenger Exarch's Shimmershield will do now that the unit already gets a 5++ .

Make their smiles sparkle! My guess would be +1 on saves.

I’m reckoning, without evidence, -1 to wound

 l0k1 wrote:
Hmmm Howling Banshees, Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers, Wraithguard, and Wraithblades all seem like great elite choices this edition. I also wonder what the Dire Avenger Exarch's Shimmershield will do now that the unit already gets a 5++ .

Hopefully if will boost the squad’s invuln, but I suspect it might just give him a 4++ instead. That’s just a guess though.

What will Eldar players do if we get a codex that has decent internal balance? Would we be able to figure out how to build lists? Has it ever happened before?

How many “trap” choice have we seen so far? Most things seem pretty good, although points can make/break a lot of things.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Now will you buy our $90 Banshee box?"

They're having a giraffe!

 l0k1 wrote:
Hmmm Howling Banshees, Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers, Wraithguard, and Wraithblades all seem like great elite choices this edition. I also wonder what the Dire Avenger Exarch's Shimmershield will do now that the unit already gets a 5++ .

Advent leaks had it as a 4++ for the unit.

 Nevelon wrote:

 l0k1 wrote:
Hmmm Howling Banshees, Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers, Wraithguard, and Wraithblades all seem like great elite choices this edition. I also wonder what the Dire Avenger Exarch's Shimmershield will do now that the unit already gets a 5++ .

Hopefully if will boost the squad’s invuln, but I suspect it might just give him a 4++ instead. That’s just a guess though.

What will Eldar players do if we get a codex that has decent internal balance? Would we be able to figure out how to build lists? Has it ever happened before?

How many “trap” choice have we seen so far? Most things seem pretty good, although points can make/break a lot of things.

2nd Ed. Nothing sucked.