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**bullyboy**

zero interest in buying resin hawks. So, do you go the cheap scourges route, cannibalizing the feathered wings?
I do have several old plastic guardians with lasguns...haha, just figure out some wings for them.

**Tarvitz77**

Nevelon wrote:
EldarExarch wrote:
While these Exarch powers are cool (and in some cases incredibly strong), does anyone else feel that the pts cost for some of them (30 pts!?) is a bit much.

I mean thats the same or more than what SM HQ are paying to become a super healer/super librarian/super chap, and those are 5+ wound toughness 4 models (with a whole lot of other stuff going on).

These Exarchs are 2-wound toughness 3. Seems a bit expensive to me is all.

It’s a lot harder to snipe out the exarchs, so they are more unit upgrades than characters.

I agree that they seem pricy, but it’s not like they are just going to cop a bolter round first turn and go down like a chump. And we don’t have challenges to single them out of the squad anymore.

The prices make a lot more sense if you look at this, provided by Hellebore earlier in the thread:

You're not just paying for the power, you're also giving stat increases to the Exarch. With the above, I think the prices are entirely reasonable.

Honestly I'm worried the aspect warriors may be a little too good, though that obviously will depend upon the points cost. They are still pretty squishy.

**vipoid**

Lot of people here talking about aspect warriors but I'm actually really excited for the new Death Jester. Seems an effective model and I like that its high attack stat is no longer pointless.

**petrov27**

GaroRobe wrote:
So, GW makes swooping hawks very OP, people buy the finecast models, shrinking the current inventory, and allowing GW to release a nicer plastic kit eventually.

It's brilliant, brilliant, brilliant! Genius, I say!

Ha yep, also the Warp Spiders seem to be following this similar devious plan. Conversely, Reapers are sounding not so great rule-wise, the new plastic kit is big bucks and they have silly hats which all seems designed to not sell a ton of them. GW playin some crazy 4D chess with their releases for sure....

**Dysartes**

vipoid wrote:
Lot of people here talking about aspect warriors but I'm actually really excited for the new Death Jester. Seems an effective model and I like that its high attack stat is no longer pointless.

Yeah, but the split-legged stance on the twin tactical rock is a bit much, don't you think?

**TrickyDick**

Tarvitz77 wrote:
Nevelon wrote:
EldarExarch wrote:
Honestly I'm worried the aspect warriors may be a little too good, though that obviously will depend upon the points cost. They are still pretty squishy.

TBF Elder in my mind were always the ultimate glass cannon in their area of expertise. So little OP with the trade off being as squishy as a month old banana, I could live with that.

**Khahandran**

Autarch Skyrun we still exists. According to WarCom article, so your mileage of that statement may vary.

**TrickyDick**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/22/need-to-skewer-a-vip-across-the-battlefield-on-turn-one-shining-spears-have-you-covered/

States Autarch can take a bike in the article

**SamusDrake**

vipoid wrote:
Lot of people here talking about aspect warriors but I'm actually really excited for the new Death Jester. Seems an effective model and I like that its high attack stat is no longer pointless.

The DJ certainly looks refined, especially it's range.

**bullyboy**

Dysartes wrote:
vipoid wrote:
Lot of people here talking about aspect warriors but I'm actually really excited for the new Death Jester. Seems an effective model and I like that its high attack stat is no longer pointless.

Yeah, but the split-legged stance on the twin tactical rock is a bit much, don't you think?

he's referring to Death Jesters (harlequins), not Maugen Ra

**jaredb**

Has there been any information on what ynnari is going to be like as an army in the new codex?

**Darkial**

I'm confused by one thing, the rule of boosting Ld to the aspect warriors from the PL means that the unit will have more Ld? Because that doesn't makes much sense to me. Also the fact that they're more Ld 10 doesn't make much sense for a legendary immortal warrior.

**EviscerationPlague**

The relic jet bike is fairly underwhelming, but the Objective Secured has a niche use for a last minute objective grab.

**GaroRobe**

bullyboy wrote:
Dysartes wrote:
vipoid wrote:
Lot of people here talking about aspect warriors but I'm actually really excited for the new Death Jester. Seems an effective model and I like that its high attack stat is no longer pointless.

Yeah, but the split-legged stance on the twin tactical rock is a bit much, don't you think?

he's referring to Death Jesters (harlequins), not Maugen Ra

He's also talking about the rules for the model, not the model itself. I guess people wanting to bring him to the tabletop because of his new rules may not like the model, but its still a weird counterpoint.

**Octovol**

Darkial wrote:
I'm confused by one thing, the rule of boosting Ld to the aspect warriors from the PL means that the unit will have more Ld? Because that doesn't makes much sense to me. Also the fact that they're more Ld 10 doesn't make much sense for a legendary immortal warrior.

Why doesnt it make sense? You give them greater LD and obsec so they can survive longer on an objective. It's not something you build an army around but certainly for swooping hawks and warp spiders they have the mobility and chaff-clear to easily take an objective from most other army's obsec troops.

**SamusDrake**

jaredb wrote:
Has there been any information on what ynnari is going to be like as an army in the new codex?

Apparently its going to be mixed Craftworlds / Drukhari detachments, but where you take one Craftworld unit, you must complement it with a Drukhari unit.

But that was just a rumour, so take it with a pinch of salt until we get the codex in our grubby mits.

**jaredb**

Thanks!

I am looking forward to expanding my harlequins into a full ynnari army with the new plastics, so I'm curious as to what that faction will look like.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Thinking about it, the Eldar hype has lasted pretty long this time around, given we first started getting info early December.

Sure not all (myself included) were convinced it was true. But nearly 3 months in, seems folk are still keen

**SamusDrake**

Same here!

I like the idea of the Ynnari, but not being able to mix within a detachment seems to defeat it. For the sake of combat patrols there has to be some kind of rule for that.

**VladimirHerzog**

Dysartes wrote:
vipoid wrote:
Lot of people here talking about aspect warriors but I'm actually really excited for the new Death Jester. Seems an effective model and I like that its high attack stat is no longer pointless.

Yeah, but the split-legged stance on the twin tactical rock is a bit much, don't you think?

Death jester is only on one rock...

**Tarvitz77**

VladimirHerzog wrote:
Dysartes wrote:
vipoid wrote:
Lot of people here talking about aspect warriors but I'm actually really excited for the new Death Jester. Seems an effective model and I like that its high attack stat is no longer pointless.

Yeah, but the split-legged stance on the twin tactical rock is a bit much, don't you think?

Death jester is only on one rock...

Pretty sure a joke is being made here about how similar Maugan Ra's new model is to a Death Jester.

At least that's how I read it!

**SamusDrake**

Thats the only niggle I have with Harlequins and thats the DJ's pose. I haven't bought one yet, but instead kitbashed one so that when I do get it, they look different.

But darn it I need to get and paint the chap, ready for the new codex.

**Darkial**

Octovol wrote:
Darkial wrote:
I'm confused by one thing, the rule of boosting Ld to the aspect warriors from the PL means that the unit will have more Ld? Because that doesn't makes much sense to me. Also the fact that they're more Ld 10 doesn't make much sense for a legendary immortal warrior.

Why doesnt it make sense? You give them greater LD and obsec so they can survive longer on an objective. It's not something you build an army around but certainly for swooping hawks and warp spiders they have the mobility and chaff-clear to easily take an objective from most other army's obsec troops.

I mean in terms of lore and common sense, in terms of rules I don't have any problem. I find it weird that the legendary phoenix lords can have less Ld than their inferior and less experienced warriors.

**l0k1**

Wow, Swooping Hawks and Baharroth sound great! Betting their abilities gets FAQ'd to being set up in the next reinforcements step though. Now I'm torn between Swooping Hawks, Warp Spiders, and Shining Spears lol

**NinthMusketeer**

TrickyDick wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/22/need-to-skewer-a-vip-across-the-battlefield-on-turn-one-shining-spears-have-you-covered/

States Autarch can take a bike in the article

Dissapointing that GW still thinks reliable turn 1 alpha strikes are a positive game feature that should be advertised.

**General Hobbs**

Any updates on war walkers????? They and IG Sentinels are amongst the coolest models with lousy rules.

**Hellebore**

Some more leaks

**H.B.M.C.**

Wish they'd shown off more of the Shining Spears. I really like those minis.

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Dissapointing that GW still thinks reliable turn 1 alpha strikes are a positive game feature that should be advertised.

Real shame, innit?

**warpedpig**

All you have to do is screen with some cheap troops and the shining spears can’t really charge anything important. And they are then going to get shot to pieces and charged next turn. This first turn charge stuff is easy to counter with smart screening. And it’s gonna cost them maybe 100 points for screening troops and you’ll lose many hundreds of points with the spears being killed

**H.B.M.C.**

warpedpig wrote:
All you have to do is screen with some cheap troops and the shining spears can’t really charge anything important. And they are then going to get shot to pieces and charged next turn. This first turn charge stuff is easy to counter with smart screening. And it’s gonna cost them maybe 100 points for screening troops and you’ll lose many hundreds of points with the spears being killed

The point was more that GW are acting like this is a good thing for the game, not whether it's easy to counter.