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Yeah, I mean I think everyone here understands these are rumors.

At least from my perspective, the stuff so far seems pretty feasible. If it's fake, I'll at least applaud the effort being put in, because nearly everything so far I could see being pretty legitimate. As far as that is concerned, we should have a pretty good idea after the CSM side of the KT box is shown how legitimate some if it is.

Anyway,

Harkaan getting improved sure would be nice. I'm hoping he's like an Elite or something in the new book though, or doesn't take up a slot.

 Laughing Man wrote:

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:

Well, you kind of have accept the premise to participate in the conversation.

Also, I don't think Occam's razor (do not attribute an action maliciousness if incompetence is an option) is applicable here.

That's Hanlon's Razor. Occam's Razor is "the simplest answer is usually correct."

And sure, you probably ought to have some buy in to talk about said rumors. It's still funny watching how far people will contort themselves to continue to treat said rumors credulously.

Oops ! My bad ! Thanks for the correction !

Occam's Razor doesn't apply here any more than Hanlon's would.

 Laughing Man wrote:
It's still funny watching how far people will contort themselves to continue to treat said rumors credulously.

Discussing the rumours and their implications if true is "contorting" ourselves?

Would you rather we greet every rumour with "That's bull gak! Prove it!"?

 Sasori wrote:
Yeah, I mean I think everyone here understands these are rumors.

At least from my perspective, the stuff so far seems pretty feasible. If it's fake, I'll at least applaud the effort being put in, because nearly everything so far I could see being pretty legitimate. As far as that is concerned, we should have a pretty good idea after the CSM side of the KT box is shown how legitimate some if it is.

Anyway,

Harkaan getting improved sure would be nice. I'm hoping he's like an Elite or something in the new book though, or doesn't take up a slot.

At least make his Lightning Claw do more damage if they won't let him use his GODDAMN SPEAR IN MELEE SERIOUSLY

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
Yeah, I mean I think everyone here understands these are rumors.

At least from my perspective, the stuff so far seems pretty feasible. If it's fake, I'll at least applaud the effort being put in, because nearly everything so far I could see being pretty legitimate. As far as that is concerned, we should have a pretty good idea after the CSM side of the KT box is shown how legitimate some if it is.

Anyway,

Harkaan getting improved sure would be nice. I'm hoping he's like an Elite or something in the new book though, or doesn't take up a slot.

At least make his Lightning Claw do more damage if they won't let him use his GODDAMN SPEAR IN MELEE SERIOUSLY

At least he makes for a great base for a Lord with jump pack

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/21/the-new-chaos-space-marines-kill-team-is-here-and-theyve-got-a-host-of-new-ways-to-slay/

Upgrade sprue for CSM

 xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/21/the-new-chaos-space-marines-kill-team-is-here-and-theyve-got-a-host-of-new-ways-to-slay/

Upgrade sprue for CSM

With a Reaper Chaincannon--finally!

The Balefire Acolyte is also fairly cool.

 xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/21/the-new-chaos-space-marines-kill-team-is-here-and-theyve-got-a-host-of-new-ways-to-slay/

Upgrade sprue for CSM

Looks like this confirms a bunch of the previous rumours posted.

 xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/21/the-new-chaos-space-marines-kill-team-is-here-and-theyve-got-a-host-of-new-ways-to-slay/

Upgrade sprue for CSM

And I think there is our first rumour confirmation.

Cursed weapons ahoy!

I quite like the Kill Team. Not as spangly/busy as I imagined, but cool looking all the same.

Also kind of how I’d like to see more CSM squads. Less regimented, more individualistic. Small warbands in their own right.

Aaannnd now the horror sets in. I was really hoping that these rumours would be untrue.

At least the models look cool.

I'll be hard on GW for a lot of stuff, but the models are pretty consistently good.

Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

Is that one legionnaire wearing a corrupted reiver helmet? Chaos Primaris confirmed or just battlefield salvage?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Is that one legionnaire wearing a corrupted reiver helmet? Chaos Primaris confirmed or just battlefield salvage?

I think it's just meant to be a skull-mask. Chaplains had them long before Reivers existed.

 Arbitrator wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Is that one legionnaire wearing a corrupted reiver helmet? Chaos Primaris confirmed or just battlefield salvage?

I think it's just meant to be a skull-mask. Chaplains had them long before Reivers existed.

I agree on that point, but taside from mk7 helmets, there is also what looks like chaos primaris helmets in the mix too. But, could also be mk4 i suppose.

 Rinkydink wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Is that one legionnaire wearing a corrupted reiver helmet? Chaos Primaris confirmed or just battlefield salvage?

I think it's just meant to be a skull-mask. Chaplains had them long before Reivers existed.

I agree on that point, but taside from mk7 helmets, there is also what looks like chaos primaris helmets in the mix too. But, could also be mk4 i suppose.

Dark Vengeance Chosen had those too. As you say, they're just corrupted MK4.

tneva82 wrote:
Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

I can't believe how tone deaf that was. The people on WarComm seem to have zero insight into the disposition of the community.

 Gene St. Ealer wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

I can't believe how tone deaf that was. The people on WarComm seem to have zero insight into the disposition of the community.

lmao the chaos community is very serious business

 Gene St. Ealer wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

I can't believe how tone deaf that was. The people on WarComm seem to have zero insight into the disposition of the community.

It's because they know they did it.

Umbros wrote:

 Gene St. Ealer wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

I can't believe how tone deaf that was. The people on WarComm seem to have zero insight into the disposition of the community.

lmao the chaos community is very serious business

Yes, the classic "HURR DURR GUISE WHY ARE YOU MAD ABOUT TOY SOLDIERS", as if the fact that they are miniatures invalidates the fact that they cost hundreds/thousands and take hours to build and paint. Yes, why would anybody be annoyed with GW's crappy rules support of them indeed

 Gene St. Ealer wrote:

Umbros wrote:

 Gene St. Ealer wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

I can't believe how tone deaf that was. The people on WarComm seem to have zero insight into the disposition of the community.

lmao the chaos community is very serious business

Yes, the classic "HURR DURR GUISE WHY ARE YOU MAD ABOUT TOY SOLDIERS", as if the fact that they are miniatures invalidates the fact that they cost hundreds/thousands and take hours to build and paint. Yes, why would anybody be annoyed with GW's crappy rules support of them indeed

Everytime people do this i think "Why are you on a dedicated 40k forum if you think it's a stupid thing to care about toys for children?"

so with the confirmation of some rumors like the double axe and the book for CSM units..

What other rumors are there about new units?

I think the axe + skull mask would be a good base for a not terrible looking lord executioner

Wonder if the sprue has other goodies we haven’t seen

zamerion wrote:
so with the confirmation of some rumors like the double axe and the book for CSM units..

What other rumors are there about new units?

New cultists, new cultist HQ, new mutants, new bikers... I keep updating the main post !

tneva82 wrote:
Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

Nothing in the article mentions 12 wounds. What are you talking about?

Big shot in the arm for these rumours. Not thrilled by an upgrade sprue for a troops choice that is less than 3 years old, though I really like the parts themselves.

 Rinkydink wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Is that one legionnaire wearing a corrupted reiver helmet? Chaos Primaris confirmed or just battlefield salvage?

I think it's just meant to be a skull-mask. Chaplains had them long before Reivers existed.

I agree on that point, but taside from mk7 helmets, there is also what looks like chaos primaris helmets in the mix too. But, could also be mk4 i suppose.

They're Mark IV helmets, not Primaris.

 Togusa wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

Nothing in the article mentions 12 wounds. What are you talking about?

They said it on Facebook.

 Togusa wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

Nothing in the article mentions 12 wounds. What are you talking about?

beast_gts wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Gw has sense of humour poking fun with 12 wound csm

Nothing in the article mentions 12 wounds. What are you talking about?

lol, that's clever. Good one.

I look forward to seeing the mess of rules that we'll need to equip a regular 40k 9e squad of Chaos Marines with some of these options.

That said, I think we're going to see some pretty interesting MSU builds of Chaos Legionaries. 5 man squad with a balefire tome for a cheap psychic unit. 5 man squad with a heavy chainaxe, aspiring champ with daemon blade, and throw in a few other melee upgrades for good measure. 5-man squad with a reaper chaincannon for some easy extra dakka.

It's really only when you get up to 10 models that things just don't make sense, since you end up with 7 models that just act as ablative wounds for a champion and two special weapons. We'll see how it goes. This reveal definitely lends a lot more credence to the rumors that we've been discussing (insert: I told you so to that one guy harping on people complaining about rumored rules)

Here I was thinking that the Nachmund KT box would contain the terrain they previewed not so long ago.

And here we have the 'Malibu Stacey's New Hat' sprue for the CSM kit. Chaincannon is nice, but I want two of that double-handed Chaineaxe.

The terrain in the box is pretty anaemic.