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What were the Nurgle themed Gifts?

That page was missing from the leaks I've seen.

Putrid Carapace (20/40/60) - Gain +1 Armour save against Dam 1 weapons (Favoured: +1 Toughness).

Blessing of a Thousand Poxes (15/30/15) - Unmodified 6 in melee auto-wounds (Favoured: The same, but for ranged).

Aura of Corruption (25/35/35) - 6" Aura, models are at -1 Strength (Favoured: -1 Toughness as well).

[EDIT]: As much as 40k doesn't need even more layered rules, I have to admit that the Imperial/Chaos Knight Crusade Rules sound really cool.

Dam those Crusdae rules for Chaos in particular are really cool. Very well designed for both theme and mechanic, props to the writers for that one.

Quite chuffed for both books now, am more a crusade player myself, so quite pleased with this teaser. Only thing missing is a Freeblade / Dreadblade preview at this stage.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
[EDIT]: As much as 40k doesn't need even more layered rules, I have to admit that the Imperial/Chaos Knight Crusade Rules sound really cool.

Weirdly I'm actually kind of stoked about Damnations making their way back in Crusade. It sounds like you'll be able to stack a LOT of buffs on one Knight this way, and a couple of penalties feels like a good way to balance that out a bit without having the pure suck that is, say, Blood Angels Crusade rules.

Abominant is sounding generally better than I expected it to. With some proper building you can turn it into at least a better anti-tank platform than I initially assumed.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Putrid Carapace (20/40/60) - Gain +1 Armour save against Dam 1 weapons (Favoured: +1 Toughness).

Blessing of a Thousand Poxes (15/30/15) - Unmodified 6 in melee auto-wounds (Favoured: The same, but for ranged).

Aura of Corruption (25/35/35) - 6" Aura, models are at -1 Strength (Favoured: -1 Toughness as well).

[EDIT]: As much as 40k doesn't need even more layered rules, I have to admit that the Imperial/Chaos Knight Crusade Rules sound really cool.

Layered rules get out of hand quickly in 40k as a medium scale wargame. Knights are basically playing a skirmish game though with their model count and thus can get away with it a lot easier.

You know what? That's actually a very good point. You may have, what, 7-9 models at most (assuming you go ham with the little ones), so this is less daunting.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You know what? That's actually a very good point. You may have, what, 7-9 models at most (assuming you go ham with the little ones), so this is less daunting.

Still a bit much IMO, but yeah it would be absolutely absurd on a regular army.

Any compilation of IK rumors?

Do we expect leaks this weekend?

Looking at Cawls Wrath.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Knight Valiant/Castellan - AUD$280
Armiger Warglaives/Helverins - AUD$125

Let's see what they are in a week.

And now...

Knight Valiant/Castellan - AUD$290 (+3.5%)
Armiger Warglaives/Helverins - AUD$145 (+16%)

Nice consistency there.

Now that the Dominus box has all the weapons, Knights Tyrant should be able to mix and match those weapons. Plasma decimator and mega-flamer, anyone?

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Now that the Dominus box has all the weapons, Knights Tyrant should be able to mix and match those weapons. Plasma decimator and mega-flamer, anyone?

They can't in the new codex.

 Laughing Man wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Now that the Dominus box has all the weapons, Knights Tyrant should be able to mix and match those weapons. Plasma decimator and mega-flamer, anyone?

They can't in the new codex.

Yup, this is nothing but a SKU consolidation move.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Laughing Man wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Now that the Dominus box has all the weapons, Knights Tyrant should be able to mix and match those weapons. Plasma decimator and mega-flamer, anyone?

They can't in the new codex.

Yup, this is nothing but a SKU consolidation move.

Oh, I agree. Just wishing.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Oh, I agree. Just wishing.

Another missed opportunity by GW.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Oh, I agree. Just wishing.

Another missed opportunity by GW.

Five bucks says the decision to dual-kit them was made long after things went to print.

They should still have been options anyways, because the insistence of models only having rules for EXACTLY what is on the assembly instructions is a downside which benefits no one.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They should still have been options anyways, because the insistence of models only having rules for EXACTLY what is on the assembly instructions is a downside which benefits no one.

The literal same argument can be made for the Loyalist Knights having the same options, yet for whatever reason that elicits a response that is downright ridiculous from the Traitor side of things.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They should still have been options anyways, because the insistence of models only having rules for EXACTLY what is on the assembly instructions is a downside which benefits no one.

The literal same argument can be made for the Loyalist Knights having the same options, yet for whatever reason that elicits a response that is downright ridiculous from the Traitor side of things.

Because 'something, something, heresy'.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They should still have been options anyways, because the insistence of models only having rules for EXACTLY what is on the assembly instructions is a downside which benefits no one.

The literal same argument can be made for the Loyalist Knights having the same options, yet for whatever reason that elicits a response that is downright ridiculous from the Traitor side of things.

As a Nurgle man...

I used to be against letting Imperial Knights double-up on guns. That was the ONLY thing Chaos Knights had over them.
Now that there's some more stuff to differentiate them... Yeah, let the various chassis swap freely.

So what's everyone's opinions on the god faction keyword debate, and CSM warlords getting CP returned for taking an agent of chaos knight of the same god?

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They should still have been options anyways, because the insistence of models only having rules for EXACTLY what is on the assembly instructions is a downside which benefits no one.

The literal same argument can be made for the Loyalist Knights having the same options, yet for whatever reason that elicits a response that is downright ridiculous from the Traitor side of things.

Because 'something, something, heresy'.

Yeah I don't see why both armies shouldn't be able to mix & match their (generic) options as they please. Would be a hell of a lot easier to write too. They would still be distinguished by different army rules and by the handful of army-specific options.

I wish I could take two gatling guns on my Loyalist Knights. It's just cool.

Would limit you to 3 questor knights as a flip side

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I wish I could take two gatling guns on my Loyalist Knights. It's just cool.

It's a shame really, Solaria is bae, the best thing to come out of that garbage fire of a game and GW even went so far as to give us a tutorial for house Varlock colours. Instead all we got is a crap Angelos mini.