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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Watch it just be an Abrams with a lascannon.
Actually, that might be cool.

I'd be down with it.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Were they? I heard that there was a novel in the works, but then the author (about a year ago) said that the title was pulled by Black Library and it probably wouldn't be moving forward.

One of the Minka Lensk novels by Justin D. Hill, though I can't remember which one, starts off with a gathering of Guard officers. A Praetorian officer insults the honour of the Cadians by declaring them a defeated people and a failure of a Regiment (IIRC). He ends up dueling a Cadian officer over it.

Now i can finally get a sculpt that works great with my custom regiment! It'll be interesting if the kasrkin can be troops. Currently my veterans are not and its triggering me....

I love how a mod deleted my post, no warning. No notification. Just poof gone.

 Togusa wrote:
I love how a mod deleted my post, no warning. No notification. Just poof gone.

They were more dealing with the post you were quoting. Mine's gone too, as it quoted you, quoting him. But not the people quoting us. It's weird.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
I love how a mod deleted my post, no warning. No notification. Just poof gone.

They were more dealing with the post you were quoting. Mine's gone too, as it quoted you, quoting him. But not the people quoting us. It's weird.

No, the entire OT tangent was removed. Other posts were made after the clear out.

For the thread at large, since it apparently needs to be spelt out:

Folks, there's room for discussion of real-world themes in the Imperial Guard, but the news and rumours thread isn't really the place for it, and it shouldn't involve snide comments aimed at specific forum members. Let's get back to talking about the shiny new toiys, yes?

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Watch it just be an Abrams with a lascannon.
Actually, that might be cool.

I'd be down with it.

Seeing more "modern" tank designs would go well with the Cadian "modern army" feel, I would think.

Or even better, they could go full Command and Conquer and copy the Apocalypse tank.
I mean, a large tank with two cannons would fit right at home in 40k.
New tanks are on the rumor list right? I kind of don't want them to touch the Leman Russ, because it is well known design and a bit of a meme.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Watch it just be an Abrams with a lascannon.
Actually, that might be cool.

I'd be down with it.

Seeing more "modern" tank designs would go well with the Cadian "modern army" feel, I would think

That would be great actually, and fit right in to my Intersteller Marine Expeditionary Force.

Though being UK, a Challenger 2 is probably more correct despite the similarities.

I'm honestly just really excited to see what looks like a heavy stubber in as a special weapon. Finally a more thematic squad automatic weapon.

Eh. I hope it's actually a (non-Hotshot) Volley Gun. Would have about just the same rules as a Heavy Stubber, but fit in better with the Guard.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Eh. I hope it's actually a (non-Hotshot) Volley Gun. Would have about just the same rules as a Heavy Stubber, but fit in better with the Guard.

I've long wanted a machine gun option for the IG to synergize with the heavy bolter. A heavy stubber would be perfect but an assault LMG would be cool too.

I think I built 4 Cadians with heavy stubbers years ago. Might get some use of them outside of the RPSs.

I tell ya, the Grenade Launcher arms from the Cadian kit really let you do a lot with kitbashing/converting.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Eh. I hope it's actually a (non-Hotshot) Volley Gun. Would have about just the same rules as a Heavy Stubber, but fit in better with the Guard.

It was literally described as a Hot-Shot lasgun in the preview:

"Clad in the finest carapace armour, these special forces have more skills than your standard Astra Militarum trooper, and are able to cut down their enemies with volleys from their hot-shot lasguns."

The heavy stubber looked like it's on the new Cadian Shock Troop kit in the background, not on the Kasrkin.



They were up by the new Commissar.

Hm, those don't look that much like Cadians. The tunics look more like Steel Legion to me, and I'm not seeing any fleshtone in the faces either, the heads seem to be curiously dark, like they're all wearing masks or balaclavas.

Rebreather masks are something Cadians have as an alternative to the open face helmet. Looks like the kasarkin helmet.

I am 98% certain that those are Cadians. The only question is, if it is a Veteran Squad or a regular infantry one. The helmet shape, Cadian Gate symbol and the useless shin guard can be seen. The only reason they look so different is that it has been 20 years since the infantry was last designed and we are not used to Cadians to look anything different than chinstrapped potatoes on stubby legs.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Hm, those don't look that much like Cadians. The tunics look more like Steel Legion to me, and I'm not seeing any fleshtone in the faces either, the heads seem to be curiously dark, like they're all wearing masks or balaclavas.

It's Cadians.


They actually had longer field jackets/uniform shirts in the old Kopinski art(below) and they've kept it in the new art(above).

It just wasn't really ever showcased well on the models.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
Hm, those don't look that much like Cadians. The tunics look more like Steel Legion to me, and I'm not seeing any fleshtone in the faces either, the heads seem to be curiously dark, like they're all wearing masks or balaclavas.

Yeah, looks like they're wearing masks.
I hope they are steel legion, they are a pretty iconic regiment that got abandoned because of metal models.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Eh. I hope it's actually a (non-Hotshot) Volley Gun. Would have about just the same rules as a Heavy Stubber, but fit in better with the Guard.

I agree. I forget where I mentioned it before, but I always thought a Rapid Fire 3 or 4 "squad automatic lasgun" would be perfect from a thematic point of view. Might need some lethality enhancements to actually be practical in 9E. Couple that with the ability to give one member an auxiliary grenade launcher like Intercessors, and I'd be in high heaven.

 Kanluwen wrote:
The heavy stubber looked like it's on the new Cadian Shock Troop kit in the background, not on the Kasrkin.

Spoiler:

They were up by the new Commissar.

Ooof. I know its a blurry image, but I don't like the look of that commissar's face. That scar looks gigantic and cyber eyes are usually hit or miss

On imagery this corrupted and full of processing artifacts, it's never a bad idea to withhold judgement. I already regret subjecting myself to public mockery for making the what I thought were cautious and reserved observations I already made.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The heavy stubber looked like it's on the new Cadian Shock Troop kit in the background, not on the Kasrkin.

Spoiler:

They were up by the new Commissar.

Ooof. I know its a blurry image, but I don't like the look of that commissar's face. That scar looks gigantic and cyber eyes are usually hit or miss

Yeah, that one's rough--it's a screengrab from GW's purposely fuzzed out video.


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 Agamemnon2 wrote:
On imagery this corrupted and full of processing artifacts, it's never a bad idea to withhold judgement. I already regret subjecting myself to public mockery for making the what I thought were cautious and reserved observations I already made.

No mocking was intended on my part!

Cadians have a really interesting design aesthetic...but the models never really did them justice. I'm a big ol' Kopinski fanboy though so I was aware of the whole field jacket thing.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
The heavy stubber looked like it's on the new Cadian Shock Troop kit in the background, not on the Kasrkin.

Spoiler:

They were up by the new Commissar.

Ooof. I know its a blurry image, but I don't like the look of that commissar's face. That scar looks gigantic and cyber eyes are usually hit or miss

Yeah, that one's rough--it's a screengrab from GW's purposely fuzzed out video.


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 Agamemnon2 wrote:
On imagery this corrupted and full of processing artifacts, it's never a bad idea to withhold judgement. I already regret subjecting myself to public mockery for making the what I thought were cautious and reserved observations I already made.

No mocking was intended on my part!

Cadians have a really interesting design aesthetic...but the models never really did them justice. I'm a big ol' Kopinski fanboy though so I was aware of the whole field jacket thing.

Is that a volkite on the kasrkin below right of the commissar?

Nay, hellgun/hotshot lasgun.

 Olthannon wrote:
Lady Creedence does not look like a bad ass. Ursula Creed does.

Ursula looks like Clare Balding with a powersword. She looks like she'd take a running start at kicking Abaddon so hard in the tadger for blowing up Cadia that his groin plate would shatter like the planet's crust.

Maybe Cawl will make her a Blackstone boot just for that purpose.

She looks like she got lost on the way to serve school dinners at a 1980s British comprehensive...

Absolute swing and a miss by gw on this one.

 Albertorius wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

And you can be fat and in shape, or a martial artist.

Spoiler:

Did people ever complain about Creed's size? Man was thicccc

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
Lady Creedence does not look like a bad ass. Ursula Creed does.

Ursula looks like Clare Balding with a powersword. She looks like she'd take a running start at kicking Abaddon so hard in the tadger for blowing up Cadia that his groin plate would shatter like the planet's crust.

Maybe Cawl will make her a Blackstone boot just for that purpose.

She looks like she got lost on the way to serve school dinners at a 1980s British comprehensive...

Absolute swing and a miss by gw on this one.

Yeah? I sure as hell wouldn't have talked gak about any of my school dinner ladies when I was a lad. They'd knock your fething teeth in and no mistake.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

And you can be fat and in shape, or a martial artist.

Spoiler:

Did people ever complain about Creed's size? Man was thicccc

Some people complain that cartoon boobs are too big, so I'm certain that someone somewhere has objected to Creed's stoutness.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Ursula Creed looks like she'd have an asthma attack after taking two steps, more like.

Why? The character doesn't look overweight or out of shape based on the model. 'Big' isn't the same as 'fat'.

And you can be fat and in shape, or a martial artist.

Spoiler:

Did people ever complain about Creed's size? Man was thicccc

Of course not. He wasn't a woman. Creed's mass (or his having a face like a ham sandwich) was no problem for the loud minority because he fit their sense what a "tough" man should look like.

The predictability with which GW's female sculpts are attacked whenever they don't look like one particular representation of femininity is pretty embarrassing. Ursula has tons of character. She's a war leader, born into conflict and raised by violence. Her sculpt reflects that very ably. If anything, it's almost *too* on the nose for her character - then again, neither she nor any other of GW's characters will ever come close to the ludicrousness which are the Primarchs, and they get a free pass.

Dudeface wrote:

Rules wise we've seen the stat line of the basic trooper and that's it right? But the article referred to "find out more in the coming months" so it's not just round the corner. They previewed the base stats before the chaos legionary profile and CSM are still nowhere to be seen either.

There's been at least 8 Squat articles on warhammer community since April. I think there were 4 lore related ones and 4 model reveal ones, with only 1 of those model reveals having stats. They're definitely coming soon.


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 Kanluwen wrote:
The heavy stubber looked like it's on the new Cadian Shock Troop kit in the background, not on the Kasrkin.

Spoiler:

Which one has the heavy stubber? One on the left has a grenade launcher. One on the right is a plasma gun. Can't tell the two in the middle too blurry.


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 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

That would require Gw to give a flying gak about Inquisition beyond an occasional bone that isn't even edible. *Cough* Whited dwarf dex *cough*

Damn, I just wish GW would give Scions rules that let them be taken in an Inquisition detachment and get Inquisition keywords. Honestly that'd be enough.