Astra Militarum Rumors 2022-2023

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**H.B.M.C.**

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
So, the none heavy weapons in infantry squads rumour seems false when reading the warcom article.

Whether on their own or as part of an Infantry Squad, Heavy Weapons Teams are responsible for taking down the big beasts that lasguns won’t scratch.

We can only hope, but we know what hope is the first step on the road towards...

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

During the live stream, the explained Cadian Shock Troops couldn’t take Heavy Weapons, but that they’re a specific unit, separate from Infantry Squads.

**Sotahullu**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
During the live stream, the explained Cadian Shock Troops couldn’t take Heavy Weapons, but that they’re a specific unit, separate from Infantry Squads.

Exactly. Cadian Shock Troops and Infantry Squads are separate. And I think Shock Troops are Veterans exclusive for Cadia if going by amount of special weapons.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Not here to correct anyone, just sharing info.

It’s easy to see how “CST don’t get Heavy Weapons” quickly become “Cadians don’t get Heavy Weapons”. And from there “Infantry Squads don’t get heavy weapons”.

No malice involved. Just flaws in communication.

**xttz**

General Hobbs wrote:

RE: Cadia Stands army preview on Warhammer Community page https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/08/warhammer-day-reveals-cadia-stands-with-an-all-new-army-set/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=events&utm_content=whd---astra-militarum&fbclid=IwAR3rYMdgkhAbzZ6wSZC2Bzto9QXNZBvJvw1w7kme8Me_OtDJrSsvn-U2qRE

The article also confirms that rules for other regiments are still around in pick-n-mix form:

Instead of tying your troops to a specific world, you’ll create a Regimental Doctrine that fits your preferred playstyle by combining two doctrine rules. Some of these are themed after iconic regiments, but you’re free to pick and combine whichever you like the most.

For example – do you love ranks of infantry standing firm and firing disciplined volleys in the face of mounting casualties? Choose the Cult of Sacrifice and Parade Drill doctrines to add a touch of die-hard Death Korps determination to the Mordian Iron Guard’s discipline.

Wouldn't be surprised to see MTO offerings for some of the older regiments. Keep in mind the rumours that got the launch box contents correct also said we're getting plastic Catachans.

**General Hobbs**

JohnnyHell wrote:
They confirmed base sizes on the stream. 25mm for Infantry squad, 28.5 for Command squad.

So the bases just look bigger in the pictures. That is a relief.

**Bobthehero**

Some more pictures of the Kasrkins. Of interest, to me, at least, is the cable-less Hotshot-Sniper

**Chikout**

Is that a horse on the cover of the codex? Rough riders confirmed? The picture is a zoomed in screenshot of the video.

**alextroy**

Is it just me, or do a few of the Cadian Shock Troops look female? Just the face, as the bodies are pretty uniform, but the Sergeant has a very narrow face as does one of the lasgun troopers.

**Kanluwen**

Chikout wrote:
Is that a horse on the cover of the codex? Rough riders confirmed? The picture is a zoomed in screenshot of the video.

THAT'S LORD SOLAR!

The model is described as having a mechanical horse.

**Stevefamine**

HEAVY WEAPONS are fantastic. I'll be buying

**JohnnyHell**

alextroy wrote:
Is it just me, or do a few of the Cadian Shock Troops look female? Just the face, as the bodies are pretty uniform, but the Sergeant has a very narrow face as does one of the lasgun troopers.

They are.

**godardc**

I almost missed that !
Well, it looks fantastic, the modesl are much more modern and dynamic and everything looks stellar, even if the Guard in general and the Kasrkins in particular have stand the test of time pretty well, in my opinion.
The wheeled artillery was something I had wanted for long without even knowing I wanted it apparently

Very curious to see if they are monopose models or not though

**alextroy**

Spoiler:

Based on the 20 Cadian Shock Troops in this picture, we are looking at a modern 2-builds-per-body kit.

**GaroRobe**

Wonder what will happen to the upgrade sprue?

The heads in that are great, but if all the new cadians have different neck connection points compared to the old kit, then the sprue won't work.

**Shakalooloo**

alextroy wrote:

Spoiler:

Based on the 20 Cadian Shock Troops in this picture, we are looking at a modern 2-builds-per-body kit.

I dunno, amongst those twenty, there are only two running poses with the right leg on the ground.

**Bureau Gnome**

alextroy wrote:

Spoiler:

Based on the 20 Cadian Shock Troops in this picture, we are looking at a modern 2-builds-per-body kit.

Also, in this picture you can see that the sergeant of the farther squad holds an auto or stubber weapon of some kind.

Comparing the new Kasrkin to rest of the redesigned Cadians makes me think they were sculpted earlier, as the Kasrkin are much closer to the current Cadian aesthetic whereas the Guardsmen and other units feature some pretty heavy departures.

**JohnnyHell**

Shakalooloo wrote:
alextroy wrote:

Spoiler:

Based on the 20 Cadian Shock Troops in this picture, we are looking at a modern 2-builds-per-body kit.

I dunno, amongst those twenty, there are only two running poses with the right leg on the ground.

Agreed, looks more like the Kill Team ten bodies setup.

**alextroy**

Shakalooloo wrote:
alextroy wrote:

Spoiler:

Based on the 20 Cadian Shock Troops in this picture, we are looking at a modern 2-builds-per-body kit.

I dunno, amongst those twenty, there are only two running poses with the right leg on the ground.

Every model in the top-left squad has a different set of arms in the mid-right squad. Use the feet as a guide and you will see. It can be a little tricky as some model's second version are not pointed in the same direction, but it isn't hard to see.

It is also easy to see there are either multiple heads per body or a set of heads that fit on any body.

**Shakalooloo**

alextroy wrote:
Shakalooloo wrote:
alextroy wrote:

Spoiler:

Based on the 20 Cadian Shock Troops in this picture, we are looking at a modern 2-builds-per-body kit.

I dunno, amongst those twenty, there are only two running poses with the right leg on the ground.
Every model in the top-left squad has a different set of arms in the mid-right squad. Use the feet as a guide and you will see. It can be a little tricky as some model's second version are not pointed in the same direction, but it isn't hard to see.

It is also easy to see there are either multiple heads per body or a set of heads that fit on any body.

There are four models with their left leg only on the ground. Two have their right leg ahead of it, two have it behind. That is a duplication of two leg sets, not four of one.

**warboss**

I like the new cadians! The unfortunate side effect of the properly scaled models this time after four decades of ham fists and balloon heads is that my gut instinct is to see this instead.

**lord_blackfang**

Primaris Cadians, huh.

That double gatling mortar is the bees knees, not gonna lie.

**ProfSrlojohn**

Absolutely solid release.

I only have 2 iffy points, I still don't like the new Sentinel, and the fact they didn't have a Thudd Gun option for the Field guns!

**Tastyfish**

Kanluwen wrote:
Chikout wrote:
Is that a horse on the cover of the codex? Rough riders confirmed? The picture is a zoomed in screenshot of the video.

THAT'S LORD SOLAR!

The model is described as having a mechanical horse.

A new Lord Solar, or Macharius?

**EviscerationPlague**

Bobthehero wrote:

Some more pictures of the Kasrkins. Of interest, to me, at least, is the cable-less Hotshot-Sniper

So we already know the unit entry. One model can have a Plasma Gun, one model can have a Grenade Launcher, and one model can have a Sniper Rifle.

Brilliant rules.

**AtoMaki**

EviscerationPlague wrote:

So we already know the unit entry. One model can have a Plasma Gun, one model can have a Grenade Launcher, and one model can have a Sniper Rifle.

And one model can have a demolition charge (leftmost dude on the second pic) and another can have a flamer. And then one can have a vox and one can have an auspex.

**ImAGeek**

EviscerationPlague wrote:
Bobthehero wrote:

Some more pictures of the Kasrkins. Of interest, to me, at least, is the cable-less Hotshot-Sniper

So we already know the unit entry. One model can have a Plasma Gun, one model can have a Grenade Launcher, and one model can have a Sniper Rifle.

Brilliant rules.

They said on the stream there’s 2 of each special weapon.

**Kanluwen**

Tastyfish wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Chikout wrote:
Is that a horse on the cover of the codex? Rough riders confirmed? The picture is a zoomed in screenshot of the video.

THAT'S LORD SOLAR!

The model is described as having a mechanical horse.

A new Lord Solar, or Macharius?

It's supposedly someone named Leontus.

**alextroy**

Shakalooloo wrote:
alextroy wrote:
Shakalooloo wrote:
alextroy wrote:

Spoiler:

Based on the 20 Cadian Shock Troops in this picture, we are looking at a modern 2-builds-per-body kit.

I dunno, amongst those twenty, there are only two running poses with the right leg on the ground.
Every model in the top-left squad has a different set of arms in the mid-right squad. Use the feet as a guide and you will see. It can be a little tricky as some model's second version are not pointed in the same direction, but it isn't hard to see.

It is also easy to see there are either multiple heads per body or a set of heads that fit on any body.

There are four models with their left leg only on the ground. Two have their right leg ahead of it, two have it behind. That is a duplication of two leg sets, not four of one.

I think we suffering from miscommunication. It appears to me, based on the picture, that the 10 model Cadian Shock Troops Squad has 10 bodies. Each of those 10 bodies has at least 2 sets of arms that can be placed on it since none of the 20 models in the picture are exact duplicates between the two squads.

**Altruizine**

Shakalooloo wrote:
alextroy wrote:
Shakalooloo wrote:
alextroy wrote:

Spoiler:

Based on the 20 Cadian Shock Troops in this picture, we are looking at a modern 2-builds-per-body kit.

I dunno, amongst those twenty, there are only two running poses with the right leg on the ground.
Every model in the top-left squad has a different set of arms in the mid-right squad. Use the feet as a guide and you will see. It can be a little tricky as some model's second version are not pointed in the same direction, but it isn't hard to see.

It is also easy to see there are either multiple heads per body or a set of heads that fit on any body.

There are four models with their left leg only on the ground. Two have their right leg ahead of it, two have it behind. That is a duplication of two leg sets, not four of one.

i think you are correct, 10 legs. Plus another ~5 from the command squad, and ~2 from the emplaced heavy weapons. Should be enough for anyone who cares about "variety."

"B" is the only one that confused me. :(