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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Moopy wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
I don't get the fierce hatred towards competitive gaming.
I can understand bemoaning if everyone at your game store wants to be tournament-level and you'd prefer a more chill time, but tournaments existing is completely fine, as are competitive players.

I've had some bad experiences with these folks. Winning > friendly. The, "I didn't come here to make friends!" bros.

Pro Tip: YOU CAN DO BOTH.

Many can and do do both (I said do do, heh). But for me? The turn off is the “Play 2 Win” type do exist, and I don’t much fancy paying money to take part in a weekend and run into even one of them.

Yeah, I've run into enough tools that I've been turned off by tournaments. It's just not the environment I want to play in. Even my local Crusade League is losing its luster...

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:


Yeah, I've run into enough tools that I've been turned off by tournaments. It's just not the environment I want to play in. Even my local Crusade League is losing its luster...

I gave up on playing in leagues. If I get roped into helping with one, I ask that I run the logistical side of things.

Too many people had treated them as "tournament training", so finding ways to break that mentality has been my own windmill to tilt at.

Thats enough of that tangent thanks.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Correct, the option that already doesn't have an existing model isn't in the box by all indications. Same for the Thallax, it seems.

But like....put it in the box? Then it has a model lol I don't understand this choice. What was missing for the Thallax?

Oh Multi-Laser

The Irad Cleanser seems to be missing from the kit too and the resin version has been OOP for awhile.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Correct, the option that already doesn't have an existing model isn't in the box by all indications. Same for the Thallax, it seems.

But like....put it in the box? Then it has a model lol I don't understand this choice. What was missing for the Thallax?

Oh Multi-Laser

The Irad Cleanser seems to be missing from the kit too and the resin version has been OOP for awhile.

Are we basing that just on the photos from the announcement or was there more info leaked and I missed it?

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Correct, the option that already doesn't have an existing model isn't in the box by all indications. Same for the Thallax, it seems.

But like....put it in the box? Then it has a model lol I don't understand this choice. What was missing for the Thallax?

Oh Multi-Laser

The Irad Cleanser seems to be missing from the kit too and the resin version has been OOP for awhile.

Are we basing that just on the photos from the announcement or was there more info leaked and I missed it?

What we've been shown, hence the "by all indications" and hedge words like "seems". They made a point of showing the two Castellax melee options we already have as well as showing the Multimelta Thallax despite it not being in the full box image. If they had the other options, they most likely would have shown them. I'd love to be wrong.

Edit: The article even mentions it's just the two melee options(emphasis mine):

Each one of these robust robots has a range of weapons to choose from – including power blades or shock chargers with built-in bolters or flamers, plus a shoulder-mounted bolt cannon, multi-melta, or sinister darklight cannon.

Might be that they've got a second box planned, or upgrade frames, to bring the other stuff out?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Might be that they've got a second box planned, or upgrade frames, to bring the other stuff out?

Would be weird for the Castellax as the one melee weapon is all that's missing.

 Platuan4th wrote:
What we've been shown, hence the "by all indications" and hedge words like "seems". They made a point of showing the two Castellax melee options we already have as well as showing the Multimelta Thallax despite it not being in the full box image. If they had the other options, they most likely would have shown them. I'd love to be wrong.

Edit: The article even mentions it's just the two melee options(emphasis mine):

Each one of these robust robots has a range of weapons to choose from – including power blades or shock chargers with built-in bolters or flamers, plus a shoulder-mounted bolt cannon, multi-melta, or sinister darklight cannon.

Okay, phew. I thought I'd missed some kind of major reveal. Thanks!

 Kanluwen wrote:
Might be that they've got a second box planned, or upgrade frames, to bring the other stuff out?

Yeah its literally a single arm melee weapon thats missing. The Siege Wrecker is paired with a Shock Charger, so they would only need to sculpt two or three parts. Not enough for an upgrade sprue, which is why its puzzlingly annoying that it seemingly isn't included in the first place.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/07/08/decide-the-fate-of-mars-in-the-next-expansion-for-warhammer-the-horus-heresy/

new book to tie into plastic Mechanicum

The Dark Mechanicum delve into malamina and other forbidden sciences.

Is this an actual english word and what does it mean? Sounds like blabla, nitty-gritty or in german: lirumlarum. Mad Doc please help me!

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

The Dark Mechanicum delve into malamina and other forbidden sciences.

Is this an actual english word and what does it mean? Sounds like blabla, nitty-gritty or in german: lirumlarum. Mad Doc please help me!

I'm pretty confident it is just technobabble, but I'm not sure what it is intended to suggest.

New option to take titans in a list easier is interesting, but titan weapons really need improved as well.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

The Dark Mechanicum delve into malamina and other forbidden sciences.

Is this an actual english word and what does it mean? Sounds like blabla, nitty-gritty or in german: lirumlarum. Mad Doc please help me!

Short answer: no. It's not even an established nonsense word like "blah-blah".

Mal- is a suffix meaning bad, evil, harmful. Amina could be a cod-Latin reordering of "animus/anima" referring to life/soul/energy. That could potentially translate to anything the Imperium doesn't like from daemonic possession to AI.

Patriarch wrote:

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

The Dark Mechanicum delve into malamina and other forbidden sciences.

Is this an actual english word and what does it mean? Sounds like blabla, nitty-gritty or in german: lirumlarum. Mad Doc please help me!

Short answer: no. It's not even an established nonsense word like "blah-blah".

Mal- is a suffix meaning bad, evil, harmful. Amina could be a cod-Latin reordering of "animus/anima" referring to life/soul/energy. That could potentially translate to anything the Imperium doesn't like from daemonic possession to AI.

I actually misread it as Anima so could be a typo?

Looks like possibly a typo of Malanima, another made up word but we can see what they mean by Mal and Anima.

It could be a stealth ability. Amina is a Middle Eastern name that carries connotations of trust and truthfulness; malamina would be false truth. That could be sensor ghosts and false readings.

Or yes it could be a typo for malanima i.e. bad motion; maybe taking control of enemy units in some way?

It's some village or town in the north of Sierra Leone. Guess we have to go there to find out.

It is a short of Malefic Amina

 Shadow Walker wrote:
It is a short of Malefic Amina

That would be Anima. Amines (Amina in some languages) have some foul-smelling gases and drugs in their group, but also Caffeine.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
It is a short of Malefic Amina

Amines (Amina in some languages) have some foul-smelling gases and drugs in their group, but also Caffeine.

And that is what I meant. Beware of the Daemonic Coffee machines!

I’m suspecting a simple typo, so should be malanima.

Animus as in animation, and presumably stuffing Daemons in places Daemons aren’t meant to go, to power up and pilot your Killydethbot.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
It could be a stealth ability. Amina is a Middle Eastern name that carries connotations of trust and truthfulness; malamina would be false truth. That could be sensor ghosts and false readings.

Or yes it could be a typo for malanima i.e. bad motion; maybe taking control of enemy units in some way?

Anima as in soul, wrong soul (machine spirit)

It could be bad anime or bad for the wallet. Either way I'm still going to do it.

My guess is 2-3 weeks out before we this or other Mechanicus offers. The new AOS is where all the fire is right now and it has to cool down a bit before something else can sneak in.

We could have it completely wrong and it actually should say “melamine” referring to the (sensibly) long-forbidden practice of covering useful surfaces in tacky synthetic veneer. Just another mark of the true depths of depravity the Dark Mechanicum is prepared to sink to.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
We could have it completely wrong and it actually should say “melamine” referring to the (sensibly) long-forbidden practice of covering useful surfaces in tacky synthetic veneer. Just another mark of the true depths of depravity the Dark Mechanicum is prepared to sink to.

The horror! Those hereteks should stick to skulls and brasswork!

Now I'm imaging a Dark Mechanicum ship, but the interior is all 80's decor with veneers and dado rails... *Shudder*

 Moopy wrote:
It could be bad anime or bad for the wallet. Either way I'm still going to do it.

My guess is 2-3 weeks out before we this or other Mechanicus offers. The new AOS is where all the fire is right now and it has to cool down a bit before something else can sneak in.

The big AoS time is already over at this point. 40k Leviathan only got three weeks really focused on it and thats where we are at right now for AoS too. It doesn't seem like it at first but thats just because they switched the order this time around.
For Leviathan it was the box first, then a week off to increase focus on the box and than a third week with the individual releases for the core rules and Index cards.
For AoS they did the Rules and Index week straight after the boxset week and did the off week afterwards that which is what we are currently in with the BL only stuff so next Sunday should give us another actual preorder.

It could just be the starter sets but 40k also had two other preorders in between the starters and the three launch weeks so I expect something similar here.
I still don't actually think we will get Mechanicum in these two weeks already, more likely TOW Dwarfs, Warcry and maybe the two battlegroups LI is still missing but as long as we are back to the usual rate of releases it shouldn't take too long until we get out Mechanicum Battlegroup

The Martian Schism is very much an untapped vein of 30k and hopefully will provide some interesting things we've not yet seen. We've had hints of it with Draykavac and Scoria but nothing more then that other then lore snippets.

 Haighus wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
We could have it completely wrong and it actually should say “melamine” referring to the (sensibly) long-forbidden practice of covering useful surfaces in tacky synthetic veneer. Just another mark of the true depths of depravity the Dark Mechanicum is prepared to sink to.

The horror! Those hereteks should stick to skulls and brasswork!

Now I'm imaging a Dark Mechanicum ship, but the interior is all 80's decor with veneers and dado rails... *Shudder*

Can you hear the piped-in elevator music in all corridors too?