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The only bit I can't make out is the page count figure, but it clearly says "Third Edition Hardback Rulebook"

 Albertorius wrote:

I love how much value you get out of each edition rulebook. So cheap, so much value! /s

The good news is that boxes like this inevitably end up having the rulebooks available very cheaply in the second-hand market, as people break up the boxes to max out certain models.

I’m not seeing legs? There’s something odd and lumpy toward the front, but I couldn’t say what it is.

Well that autocannon turret has some leg-carriage underneath it but looks somehow bit faded.

Defo 4 very widely spread legs

Lots of disintegrators

Dread right arm and nipple guns are all disintegrators


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So the true Hearsay teasers were the dread knee sketch, the saturnine shoulder pad and the plastic counters

Dreads right arm looks more like an melta.

 Sotahullu wrote:
Dreads right arm looks more like an melta.

It has the hubcap magazine

Well, if that's indeed 3rd edition with a new cycle of books on the same release schedule as before - I'm done with HH.
Still hoping it's just a facelift, like all of the Necromunda editions.
Couldn't care less about marines

Not a d18 in sight!

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 Prometheum5 wrote:
I'm assuming that'll be the official reveal, it's too early for release. 399 hours puts it on May 29th.

reveal is what i figure. does GW have an announcement stream planned for the 29th or so?

So originally we expected this to be shown at the Dallas Open preview next week. That event page now has an 'important update':

https://web.cvent.com/event/4928ecba-01fb-4110-981d-1971e98f0847/summary

Following the link says they're replacing the preview with some kind of SM2 tournament instead.

The preview event being cancelled would explain both the "399 hours" thing, and also why several recent big 40k previews have been done on WarCom.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m not seeing legs? There’s something odd and lumpy toward the front, but I couldn’t say what it is.

I think you, like me at first glance, took the lines that go from the turret as some kind of scenery in the background. Look again, they're definitely mechanic legs/ carriers. Though I'm not sure they're actually able to walk, it looks pretty much like entrenched artillery.

Arrangement looks a lot like the old Manticore Platform, but more articulated with pistons and such

On the disintegrator sprue, I’m hoping for a load of MkII arms to take heavy weapons and melee weapons easier instead of the half arsed vambrace option for MkIII

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Arrangement looks a lot like the old Manticore Platform, but more articulated with pistons and such

To me, it looks as though it sitting on a slightly elongated version of the new plastic Tarantula's legs. And the apparent distortion could just be the image. The description on the back of the box seems to be 'Arachnus(?) Quad Accelerator (Autocannon?) Platform'.

Accelerator platform reminds me of the old forgeworld hydra platform

So judging by the pictures the Saturnine Termies are more like Dreadnoughts in that they're housing a dismembered pilot rather than being an exosuit like all other TDA patterns?

 His Master's Voice wrote:
So judging by the pictures the Saturnine Termies are more like Dreadnoughts in that they're housing a dismembered pilot rather than being an exosuit like all other TDA patterns?

Head being below the shoulders is no reason to assume that

So was Saturine always the canon name for this mark?

I was always told it was an unofficial fan name

 GaroRobe wrote:
So was Saturine always the canon name for this mark?

I was always told it was an unofficial fan name

It was an unofficial fan name. GW actually making them cannon including the design is some proper fan service

Yeah, they're probably hiding some plasma-fuel in those shoulders for those guns.
And some Snacks, because you should never go to battle without some Snacks.

Also hoping that this is just a 2.1 rather than a full 3.0.

... and now I have an incentive to finish painting the 2nd edition starter box.

Super minor observation?

MkII Bolters appear to have the Chainblade attachment. So that’s nice.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Super minor observation?

MkII Bolters appear to have the Chainblade attachment. So that’s nice.

Yes, looks like MKII have the same bolter as MKIII (Phobos pattern, best pattern) but as MKII lacks vambraces they used the extra space to add those chainblades/bayonets.

 xttz wrote:
The good news is that boxes like this inevitably end up having the rulebooks available very cheaply in the second-hand market, as people break up the boxes to max out certain models.

Yeah, the problem is the same as with any edition: unlearning stuff, relearning stuff. I ain't got time for that anymore, TBH, for a game I might play every other month, at the very best.

Plus, as said above, a new run through the codex carousel.

Sorry for Heresy fans who're joining the threadmill. Maybe a "community edition" will emerge which is more stable?

As to the box, the marines look fine, the Dread is really quite cool, but I'm not into those terminators.

Good stuff, it means zero temptation for me this time unlike the last time when I really was tempted by that Age of Darkness boxed set! Glad I didn't because I probably wouldn't even have had it assembled before the new edition came along.

Ok whoever designed that dreadnought and terminator - WELL DONE - that's the first time I've looked at a GW Dreadnought and gone "actually yeah I would really like to actually own that model"

Sadly HH already has a community edition that is godawful but has powerful backing that makes any other homebrew unlikely to catch on.

We still need to know more about the extent of changes to the rules.

I’m expecting, admittedly through hope rather than evidence, a 3rd/4th/5th Ed type tweak and refine, rather than a Baby And Bathwater Job.

What I do demand, yes, demand? Contents and Glossary.

If this is a starter box it seems somewhat less likely to get new players interested than the AoD box. People already into HH will be excited about Saturnine but I think overall the minis in AoD have/had a broader appeal to people that might be interested in HH.

A working index and sane layout with abilities alphabetized and not scattered across 7 sections would be good.

Annoyingly a 2.1 patch that left faction books legal would be the opposite of what the game needs. Core rules work fine, army lists need fixes.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
A working index and sane layout with abilities alphabetized and not scattered across 7 sections would be good.

Annoyingly a 2.1 patch that left faction books legal would be the opposite of what the game needs. Core rules work fine, army lists need fixes.

Yeah.,.. the current book is aweful. I am in awe of how awful it is.