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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
If I read right, the Blood Tithe Points go up when ANY unit dies. It doesn't say friend or foe, so both?

Khorne cares not whence the blood flows.

I can see someone frying themselves with an overcharged plasma shot and being surprised to learn they just fed Blood Tithe.

Smoking boots tithe, in their case.

Unless they were the last model in the unit it wouldn't be tithe.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/23/angron-cant-be-banished-find-out-why-in-new-lore-from-codex-world-eaters/

Have some spite and taunting:

Their differences even extend to the way they do battle, as not all World Eaters charge screaming into melee combat. The Bloodstalkers are known for their patience and gunnery, reasoning that a warrior who lives longer claims more skulls for Khorne.

But you can't make these with this codex! Why even have the lore snippets if the rules can't reflect them?

Voss wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/23/angron-cant-be-banished-find-out-why-in-new-lore-from-codex-world-eaters/

Have some spite and taunting:

Their differences even extend to the way they do battle, as not all World Eaters charge screaming into melee combat. The Bloodstalkers are known for their patience and gunnery, reasoning that a warrior who lives longer claims more skulls for Khorne.

But you can't make these with this codex! Why even have the lore snippets if the rules can't reflect them?

Yeah, that article read badly. It's all so over the top and unhinged, and not in a funny, over-the-top way, more like... sad. Al Bundy still remembering his one good game of college Football sad. I mean gak like this:

Should Angron somehow be cast back into the warp, he re-emerges unscathed precisely eight weeks, eight days, and eight hours later, heralded by eight Crimson Omens that strike fear into the hearts of all who witness them. You’d better believe he’ll be eight times as mad, too.

Yeah, we get it. Eight. Haha. Very funny. Eight. Khorne has a sacred number, which is Eight. Eight Eightbound in the Eightcage.

If you’re still valiant enough to square up against the Daemon Primarch despite all that, you’ll have Spinegrinder and Samni’arius to contend with.

The former is a titanic chain-axe, far beyond most mortal craft. It’s also known as Persiax’s Folly – named for the traitor Forge World that laboured for decades to construct it, only to become the axe’s first victims when Angron scorned their supplication. The latter is a daemon blade of prodigious size containing the essence of a powerful Slaaneshi daemon, whose gladiatorial posturing offended the Primarch enough for him to administer the beating of a lifetime using nothing more than an unworked iron bar – forging the blade in the process.

Spinegrinder is okay, but Samni'arius sounds like some novice DM's first flaccid try at inventing a thing. Complete with unnecessary apostrophes. And sure, his blade is so EXTREME! that a whole Forgeworld labored for decades. To make one single chainaxe. Sure. And the other one is EVEN MORE! EXTREME! He literally forged it on the forehead of some dude we never heard of before. Because that's how EXTREME! Eightgron is. I have no brain but i must eight. Urgh.

Tsagualsa wrote:


Spinegrinder is okay, but Samni'arius sounds like some novice DM's first flaccid try at inventing a thing. Complete with unnecessary apostrophes.

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume you're not familiar with the 30+ years of GW Daemonic naming history.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:


Spinegrinder is okay, but Samni'arius sounds like some novice DM's first flaccid try at inventing a thing. Complete with unnecessary apostrophes.

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume you're not familiar with the 30+ years of GW Daemonic naming history.

Nah, the demon stuff alone is fine, it's just that the overall package rises to heights of idiocy that were deemed impossible before. Also, Angron should absolutely not be trusted with expensive weapons, he has lost about a wardrobe's worth of them at this point Gorefather, Gorechild, the Black Blade... i'm sure i'm missing some - maybe they were eight in total, missed opportunity right there

One dreads to think about what they'll do to Fulgrim once it's his turn.

Personally, I'm kind of impressed he can take a wrought iron bar and somehow form a functional blade by beating the snot out of a Keeper of Secrets.

Tsagualsa wrote:

Should Angron somehow be cast back into the warp, he re-emerges unscathed precisely eight weeks, eight days, and eight hours later, heralded by eight Crimson Omens that strike fear into the hearts of all who witness them. You’d better believe he’ll be eight times as mad, too.

Yeah, we get it. Eight. Haha. Very funny. Eight. Khorne has a sacred number, which is Eight. Eight Eightbound in the Eightcage.

You're not going to point out that 8 weeks and 8 days later is actually 9 weeks and 1 day?

Tsagualsa wrote:

One dreads to think about what they'll do to Fulgrim once it's his turn.

They can't do any worse to him than was already done in Fulgrim.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Should Angron somehow be cast back into the warp, he re-emerges unscathed precisely eight weeks, eight days, and eight hours later, heralded by eight Crimson Omens that strike fear into the hearts of all who witness them. You’d better believe he’ll be eight times as mad, too.

Yeah, we get it. Eight. Haha. Very funny. Eight. Khorne has a sacred number, which is Eight. Eight Eightbound in the Eightcage.

You're not going to point out that 8 weeks and 8 days later is actually 9 weeks and 1 day?

Lol, true. But then, does the Imperium not operate on some weird decimal system anyway? Does Angron go by Warp Days, ship days, Terran Days, Nucerian Daylight Savings time? It's of course just some silly joking, but it's just so... dumb. Everything about this is dumb. And yes, this includes ranting about boneheaded filler content on the sell-me-stuff-website, but sometimes you need to vent

a_typical_hero wrote:
3rd edition:
It took the lifes of 90 Grey Knight Terminators to banish Angron and his escort of 13 Bloodthirsters for 1000 years and save Armageddon.

Today:
- Angron gets one-rounded twice and ressurects twice in one game.

Everything might be balanced and stuff, but this is just funny.

It's almost a meta commentary on how the Primarchs have gone from mythical figures that lurked in the background of the lore to being front and centre of the 40k lore but thematically lessened as a result. The HH book series has turned 40k towards an interesting direction that no one would have guessed in 2006.

Just read the page.....wow....I keep thinking GW hit rock bottom, but nope...ere we go, there is lower. And I thought Cawl/primaris was bad. This a whole other level.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:


Spinegrinder is okay, but Samni'arius sounds like some novice DM's first flaccid try at inventing a thing. Complete with unnecessary apostrophes.

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume you're not familiar with the 30+ years of GW Daemonic naming history.

I do semi wonder if they made them a pair of weapons with 2 different profiles instead of giving one profile to each weapon just so players don't have to say the awful names...

Voss wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/23/angron-cant-be-banished-find-out-why-in-new-lore-from-codex-world-eaters/

Have some spite and taunting:

Their differences even extend to the way they do battle, as not all World Eaters charge screaming into melee combat. The Bloodstalkers are known for their patience and gunnery, reasoning that a warrior who lives longer claims more skulls for Khorne.

But you can't make these with this codex! Why even have the lore snippets if the rules can't reflect them?

Sounds like Havocs to me, so just use your World Eater Havocs that will totally be legal when the new codex drops.

Tsagualsa wrote:

Yeah, we get it. Eight. Haha. Very funny. Eight. Khorne has a sacred number, which is Eight. Eight Eightbound in the Eightcage.

Players are nuts about chaos numbers, gw provides.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

One dreads to think about what they'll do to Fulgrim once it's his turn.

They can't do any worse to him than was already done in Fulgrim.

And that was a book that literally smeared human faeces all over everything.

Platuan4th wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

One dreads to think about what they'll do to Fulgrim once it's his turn.

They can't do any worse to him than was already done in Fulgrim.

DarkStarSabre wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

One dreads to think about what they'll do to Fulgrim once it's his turn.

They can't do any worse to him than was already done in Fulgrim.

And that was a book that literally smeared human faeces all over everything.

I actually managed to acquire a leaked live reading of the first draft for Fulgrim's Profile and Background:

https://youtu.be/fwTW5pCb9IU?t=15

 Londinium wrote:

a_typical_hero wrote:
3rd edition:
It took the lifes of 90 Grey Knight Terminators to banish Angron and his escort of 13 Bloodthirsters for 1000 years and save Armageddon.

Today:
- Angron gets one-rounded twice and ressurects twice in one game.

Everything might be balanced and stuff, but this is just funny.

It's almost a meta commentary on how the Primarchs have gone from mythical figures that lurked in the background of the lore to being front and centre of the 40k lore but thematically lessened as a result. The HH book series has turned 40k towards an interesting direction that no one would have guessed in 2006.

To be fair, Armageddon happened well before the Great Rift.

Chaos is ascendant in a way never before seen.

Do I like it? As a Chaos player, absolutely. Tremble, lapdogs.

Voss wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/23/angron-cant-be-banished-find-out-why-in-new-lore-from-codex-world-eaters/

Have some spite and taunting:

Their differences even extend to the way they do battle, as not all World Eaters charge screaming into melee combat. The Bloodstalkers are known for their patience and gunnery, reasoning that a warrior who lives longer claims more skulls for Khorne.

But you can't make these with this codex! Why even have the lore snippets if the rules can't reflect them?

Patience and gunnery from inside a tank of course! You'll live a lot longer inside one of them, especially when the rest of your side is frothing axe wielding loons.

 Tastyfish wrote:

Voss wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/23/angron-cant-be-banished-find-out-why-in-new-lore-from-codex-world-eaters/

Have some spite and taunting:

Their differences even extend to the way they do battle, as not all World Eaters charge screaming into melee combat. The Bloodstalkers are known for their patience and gunnery, reasoning that a warrior who lives longer claims more skulls for Khorne.

But you can't make these with this codex! Why even have the lore snippets if the rules can't reflect them?

Patience and gunnery from inside a tank of course! You'll live a lot longer inside one of them, especially when the rest of your side is frothing axe wielding loons.

That guy over there? The one literally called The Betrayer? He's our General.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Unless they were the last model in the unit it wouldn't be tithe.

Plenty of vehicles, characters, and single-model units with plasma out there.


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Been a while since I've gone over all the rules, but the Astra Militarum's Master of the Fleet can choose a unit to delay coming in from reserves by a turn. This should also work on Angron, right? Keeping Angron off the board for 1/5 of the game is worth his 25 points all ready.

Should Angron somehow be cast back into the warp, he re-emerges unscathed precisely eight weeks, eight days, and eight hours later, heralded by eight Crimson Omens that strike fear into the hearts of all who witness them. You’d better believe he’ll be eight times as mad, too.

Whoever came up with this clearly didn't think it through.

There are 7 days in a week, not 8.

So he re-appears 9 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours later.

Seven days in a Terran week.

Clearly, the calendar in the Warp has 8 or more days in a week.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Seven days in a Terran week.

Clearly, the calendar in the Warp has 8 or more days in a week.

Nah, 8 weeks and 8 days is 64 days which is of course 8 times 8, it's Eights all the way down.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Should Angron somehow be cast back into the warp, he re-emerges unscathed precisely eight weeks, eight days, and eight hours later, heralded by eight Crimson Omens that strike fear into the hearts of all who witness them. You’d better believe he’ll be eight times as mad, too.

Whoever came up with this clearly didn't think it through.

There are 7 days in a week, not 8.

So he re-appears 9 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours later.

I gotta agree here. No reason for them to have included the weeks there.

"Look at all these cool subfactions we invented that, unlike pretty much every other Codex, don't have rules! Eight eight eight eight eight!"

This book is so half-eight... I mean half-assed.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Should Angron somehow be cast back into the warp, he re-emerges unscathed precisely eight weeks, eight days, and eight hours later, heralded by eight Crimson Omens that strike fear into the hearts of all who witness them. You’d better believe he’ll be eight times as mad, too.

Yeah, we get it. Eight. Haha. Very funny. Eight. Khorne has a sacred number, which is Eight. Eight Eightbound in the Eightcage.

You're not going to point out that 8 weeks and 8 days later is actually 9 weeks and 1 day?

Clearly Tzeentch is pleased!

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Should Angron somehow be cast back into the warp, he re-emerges unscathed precisely eight weeks, eight days, and eight hours later, heralded by eight Crimson Omens that strike fear into the hearts of all who witness them. You’d better believe he’ll be eight times as mad, too.

Whoever came up with this clearly didn't think it through.

There are 7 days in a week, not 8.

So he re-appears 9 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours later.

I gotta agree here. No reason for them to have included the weeks there.

This is The Warp taking human perception and twisting it to its own ends. 8 Weeks, 8 Days, and 8 Hours. Why those time periods when that is also 1544 hours? Because Humanity sees the 8s and thinks "Khorne".

Or more because we're now heading towards Space Wolf levels of Flanderisation for the WE it seems.