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I can see Red Butchers being in the next WE codex. We've seen several half-arsed "new" armies drop in the last few years with this same pattern of rather anemic army book and then a fuller release not all that much later - sometimes insultingly sooner. Sisters, the revamped High Elves..

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Oh boy, the new FAQ makes this question look silly.

No. The FAQ makes the Codex look silly.

Sillier, even.

Well, the NOVA spoiler has likely put an end to the 'terminators in the picture' idea. The shoulder pad that people attributed to cataphractii-type models is quite typical of the new Berzerkers. Not to say that they won't come, but that the picture gives no evidence for them.

Guess we really are getting no WE Terminators.

What a world we live in

 TonyH122 wrote:
Well, the NOVA spoiler has likely put an end to the 'terminators in the picture' idea. The shoulder pad that people attributed to cataphractii-type models is quite typical of the new Berzerkers. Not to say that they won't come, but that the picture gives no evidence for them.

I honestly have no idea how people were getting Terminators out of that image. There was nothing in that silhouette (as blurry as it was) that resembled a Terminator.

 blood reaper wrote:

 TonyH122 wrote:
Well, the NOVA spoiler has likely put an end to the 'terminators in the picture' idea. The shoulder pad that people attributed to cataphractii-type models is quite typical of the new Berzerkers. Not to say that they won't come, but that the picture gives no evidence for them.

I honestly have no idea how people were getting Terminators out of that image. There was nothing in that silhouette (as blurry as it was) that resembled a Terminator.

People really desperately hoped GW wasn't going to make plastic World Eaters and NOT include Red Butchers.

I mean I honestly think it's just bizarre we're not getting Terminators - the other two legions got them (hell, Death Guard got two different kinds!). Is this just an anaemic release before a 10th ed book? We'll have to see.

 blood reaper wrote:
I mean I honestly think it's just bizarre we're not getting Terminators - the other two legions got them (hell, Death Guard got two different kinds!). Is this just an anaemic release before a 10th ed book? We'll have to see.

I 'spose World Eaters 2: Now With The Other Half Of The New Models is coming pretty quickly into 10th.

World Eaters 2: The Soich For More Money

It's weird that removing the armour from one arm seems to also necessitate changing the pauldron to a different style...

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's weird that removing the armour from one arm seems to also necessitate changing the pauldron to a different style...

It's Chaos, and as we know Chaos is strict and orderly. Notice how they only remove the armor on their right arm as well.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's weird that removing the armour from one arm seems to also necessitate changing the pauldron to a different style...

I'm not sure if this is the actual reasoning, but it kinda makes sense: this sort of pauldron is better, the lower edge of the regular one would be pretty uncomfortable against a bare arm. Not that these guys exactly seem like the types that would care about such things...

 Crimson wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's weird that removing the armour from one arm seems to also necessitate changing the pauldron to a different style...

I'm not sure if this is the actual reasoning, but it kinda makes sense: this sort of pauldron is better, the lower edge of the regular one would be pretty uncomfortable against a bare arm. Not that these guy exactly seem like the types that would care about such things...

Hey, you need to be comfortable if you're going to be murdering hundreds of people with a melee weapon.

Love them

 Crimson wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's weird that removing the armour from one arm seems to also necessitate changing the pauldron to a different style...

I'm not sure if this is the actual reasoning, but it kinda makes sense: this sort of pauldron is better, the lower edge of the regular one would be pretty uncomfortable against a bare arm. Not that these guy exactly seem like the types that would care about such things...

I’m confident they’re a call back to these old World Eaters, which weren’t around for long at all.



Not just the bare arms, but also the Gladiatorial style pauldrons.

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the new pistol hostlers on the beserkers? They're actually good? They're actually sculpted in a way that they look empty, since there's a gap. Not flat like the CSM ones.

 blood reaper wrote:
I mean I honestly think it's just bizarre we're not getting Terminators - the other two legions got them (hell, Death Guard got two different kinds!). Is this just an anaemic release before a 10th ed book? We'll have to see.

I think with Thousand Sons, if I recall the SOTs came in a later release from the current Rubric Marines kit, I don't think they were both dropped at the same time, but could be wrong.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's weird that removing the armour from one arm seems to also necessitate changing the pauldron to a different style...

GW really like to "tell a narrative" with their sculpts (apparently - they say it all the f*****g time on these streams), if I were to guess the "narrative" here is that the terminator pauldron gives them a little more freedom of movement and mobility with their unarmored arm than the regular power armor pauldron, which is why they swap it out.

I get that it's a callback to the old models, but the old models had (vaguely?) more sensible shoulder armour; and Kharn seemingly has no problems with his regular pauldrons.

Kharn doesn't wear a pauldron on his bare arm post-Heresy. So apparently, he DID have a problem with it.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Kharn doesn't wear a pauldron on his bare arm post-Heresy. So apparently, he DID have a problem with it.

He does have an absolute metric shitton of chains on it though, so who knows really.

chaos0xomega wrote:
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I think with Thousand Sons, if I recall the SOTs came in a later release from the current Rubric Marines kit, I don't think they were both dropped at the same time, but could be wrong.

All the TS stuff dropped at the same time (except the new HQ of course) since it was a pretty small release.

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Guess we really are getting no WE Terminators.

What a world we live in

blood reaper wrote:I mean I honestly think it's just bizarre we're not getting Terminators - the other two legions got them (hell, Death Guard got two different kinds!). Is this just an anaemic release before a 10th ed book? We'll have to see.

Has there been some absolute confirmation that there's no Terminators?


They very very clearly said on the stream:

"And obviously this isn't everything for World Eaters either.
Not by any measure.
Lots of other stuff on the way, and we have already shown off the Primarch as well [...] but there's even more stuff on the way, but we're not gonna show that off today. We just wanted to give you a little bit more with that full unit of Khorne Berzerkers.
To whet your appetite, as it were."


and Warhammer Community clearly states:

"There’s plenty more coming for the World Eaters, and though it’s still a while away, it’ll be well worth the wait for everyone who’s not in charge range. "

Most likely they are talking about the Cultists / Khornegors that were visible in that blurry leak.

 judgedoug wrote:

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Guess we really are getting no WE Terminators.

What a world we live in

blood reaper wrote:I mean I honestly think it's just bizarre we're not getting Terminators - the other two legions got them (hell, Death Guard got two different kinds!). Is this just an anaemic release before a 10th ed book? We'll have to see.

Has there been some absolute confirmation that there's no Terminators?


They very very clearly said on the stream:

"And obviously this isn't everything for World Eaters either.
Not by any measure.
Lots of other stuff on the way, and we have already shown off the Primarch as well [...] but there's even more stuff on the way, but we're not gonna show that off today. We just wanted to give you a little bit more with that full unit of Khorne Berzerkers.
To whet your appetite, as it were."


and Warhammer Community clearly states:

"There’s plenty more coming for the World Eaters, and though it’s still a while away, it’ll be well worth the wait for everyone who’s not in charge range. "

They very very clearly said nothing about Terminators in any of this though, did they? Theres more stuff coming, sure, but that doesn't mean that stuff includes terminators. While theres no "absolute confirmation" yet, the rumormonger with basically a 100% batting average said they weren't coming, which is confirmation enough.

chaos0xomega wrote:

They very very clearly said nothing about Terminators in any of this though, did they?

Indeed, with that logic, the absence of the names of other releases specifically leads me to believe there are no further models coming.

 judgedoug wrote:

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Guess we really are getting no WE Terminators.

What a world we live in

blood reaper wrote:I mean I honestly think it's just bizarre we're not getting Terminators - the other two legions got them (hell, Death Guard got two different kinds!). Is this just an anaemic release before a 10th ed book? We'll have to see.

Has there been some absolute confirmation that there's no Terminators?


They very very clearly said on the stream:

"And obviously this isn't everything for World Eaters either.
Not by any measure.
Lots of other stuff on the way, and we have already shown off the Primarch as well [...] but there's even more stuff on the way, but we're not gonna show that off today. We just wanted to give you a little bit more with that full unit of Khorne Berzerkers.
To whet your appetite, as it were."


and Warhammer Community clearly states:

"There’s plenty more coming for the World Eaters, and though it’s still a while away, it’ll be well worth the wait for everyone who’s not in charge range. "

I should probably amend my original comment and say; I'm a bit uncertain if we're getting Terminators or not. A while back a very reliable leaker basically said there had been nothing about any Terminators being in the codex. That's basically it. Now obviously this isn't a certainty or anything, and I'm not going to bet any money on it, but at the same time I am slightly worried.

So what are the rumoured releases from the Redditor before they deleted their account?

Angron
Brazen Bulls character on some kind of flying juggernaut,
Berzerkers,
Bloodletter possessed things,
Mortal/cultist unit.

Was that it?

No generic HQ would be a bit weird wouldn't it?

 Arbitrator wrote:
No generic HQ would be a bit weird wouldn't it?

Chaos Lord/Daemon Prince?

 ImAGeek wrote:
So what are the rumoured releases from the Redditor before they deleted their account?

Angron
Brazen Bulls character on some kind of flying juggernaut,
Berzerkers,
Bloodletter possessed things,
Mortal/cultist unit.

Was that it?

If I remember correctly one of the very last things they said was that the Brazen Bulls character is a dual kit with a generic Juggernaut Lord, which is the only new generic HQ.

The other generic HQ option being the Master of Executions.