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RazorEdge wrote:That Knightly Order Decalsheet is a bit of wasted space

The Panther Knights have their own Shields with sculped Details and the Knights of the Wolf don't use shields.

A problem with several of the new transfer sheets. Great transfers but the models sometimes lack appropriate shields to use them. I would have liked to see some of the old shield sprues released for goblins, dwarfs, Empire etc to allow full use of the transfers. I really do like the new transfers though!

chaos0xomega wrote:They missed an opportunity to provide knights of morr and fiery heart heraldry as well

They did, but I'm very happy with the Blazing Sun.

Top 2 spots for miniature of the year...well done everyone!

 nathan2004 wrote:
Top 2 spots for miniature of the year...well done everyone!

Just because the re-releases didnt count as new releases.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/df2beqmo/chop-dragons-down-to-size-with-the-legendary-wyrm-slayer-of-bretonnia/

To be expected but the article for Cecil arrives.

Yay new model!!

Love the mini! I'm just said that his rules are weird....a footslogger that excels at killing monsters....who can all outpace him.

Getting a very Monty Python vibe for some reason.

It's only Python if his manservant is following him around with coconuts

I find the model....a bit boring and uninspired. His pose is fine i guess, but only that. Nothing about him stands out as a special character as say the Green Knight or Lady Elisse (granted, one is a legendary sculpt and the other one imo one of GW's finest sculpts in recent years, so that's a tough crowd to be measured against).

I don't like the helmet-dragon. Even for a bretonnian it feels rediculously large. Just compare the model to the drawing, on which the helmet is better proportioned. I would also have loved the stoic facial expression from his art opposed to the yelling mouth which almost every other Fantasy hero seems to have.

It's just a fine model, nothing bad, but not a model I'm in a rush to add to my collection. Which is a shame for a special character, particularly as they've been knocking them out of the park for the Old World so far.

JWh85 wrote:
I find the model....a bit boring and uninspired. His pose is fine i guess, but only that. Nothing about him stands out as a special character as say the Green Knight or Lady Elisse (granted, one is a legendary sculpt and the other one imo one of GW's finest sculpts in recent years, so that's a tough crowd to be measured against).

I don't like the helmet-dragon. Even for a bretonnian it feels rediculously large. Just compare the model to the drawing, on which the helmet is better proportioned. I would also have loved the stoic facial expression from his art opposed to the yelling mouth which almost every other Fantasy hero seems to have.

It's just a fine model, nothing bad, but not a model I'm in a rush to add to my collection. Which is a shame for a special character, particularly as they've been knocking them out of the park for the Old World so far.

I also feel its a fine enough model, nothing bad. But for the cost of forgeworld resin characters, I'm not going to rush to buy anything like this unless they crop up second hand for dirt cheap at some point or my local store has them at some ridiculous knock down price if the game/edition ever goes under.

Its a perfectly fine model but for the cost, a plastic brettonian foot knight conversion or picking up an older metal champion second hand (especially that might need some TLC) and adding a couple of the foot knight left overs is going to work just as well, if not better for a perfectly passible version.

Characters like Lady Elisse work because they are harder to proxy due to their more unique look.

I thought the same about the recent dwarf character as well. Nothing wrong with them, but they are just not unique enough to justify forgeworld resin when so many other similar models are being re-released. The brettonian MTO characters were just as nice as this sculpt and I thought they should have been part of the main range.

My problem with the Cecil mini is that he follows the same aesthetic as the new foot knights. And I don't like the new foot knights.

Give me the 5th edition foot knights any day of the week, and thrice on a day ending with "y".

Pic of the 5th edition foot knight please? It was before my time...assuming they were sculpted by the Perry twins?

Also looks like High Elves are being previewed at LVO. Which I'll get to see first hand as I'm traveling there to play Old World.

These guys?

That's three Hero models and the Warhammer Quest guy - there certainly weren't units of them at the time, as far as I can see.

The main difference seems to be a shift from chainmail to plate in the model design. The new plastics are much more sheets of plated armour whilst the old were pockmarked all over with chainmail.

 kodos wrote:

Spoiler:

Given there's a cannon there, those ain't fifth edition.

the foot knights are from 4th, they didn't have 5th edi models

They were sculpted by the Perry twins though. God, I would love for them to come back to GW and make some new Bretonnia designs using GW's current sculpting possibilities. One can dream....

 kodos wrote:
the foot knights are from 4th, they didn't have 5th edi models

They're from Warhammer 3rd edition. Other than a get-you-by army list in the white booklet in the 4th edition boxed set, Bretonnians were absent from 4th edition.

 Dysartes wrote:
These guys?

That's three Hero models and the Warhammer Quest guy - there certainly weren't units of them at the time, as far as I can see.

Yep, those, and also Ermite de Malmont. There wasn't a full unit of foot knights in 5th, but there were five different foot knight minis. You can clearly see the "look" they were going for. It's much closer to the Perry foot knights from 3rd/4th edition (which I also like) than it is to the TOW foot knights.

Yes 3rd edition seems correct. A time when the taint of chaos was felt harshly in Bretonnia, with the nobles not being so noble, the peasant population even worse off than these days and the cities diseased and filthy. A far cry from the Arthurian chivalric turn made in the 5th edition. Also, there were court wizards at that time, which i loved!

 Overread wrote:
The main difference seems to be a shift from chainmail to plate in the model design. The new plastics are much more sheets of plated armour whilst the old were pockmarked all over with chainmail.

Old designs were based on historical armors of various types. New designs seem more based on Warcraft than anything that actually existed.

Prefer the new foot knights to those, those are just historical knights in fantasy color schemes, if thats what i wanted to play id play historicals, im here for FANTASY.

The original Bretonnian line was sculpted by the Perrys when GW was thinking of making a pure historical wargame, and then inserted into Warhammer when they decided not to. That's why they look so 'normal'.

Empire Wave 2 (I think) goes on pre-order next week, alongside several of the resin character models we've seen recently.

That's a pretty chunky Old World release!

Tempted to grab wizards to throw into Brets and the new chaos character is 100% getting a round-AoS base

So much money to spend on the next release! Nooooooo

Burlok and Frydaal are a definite.
Still waiting for the war wagon though.

Still no MTO, sad

Didnt expect Empire wave 2 so soon. Good times!