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 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Pariah Press wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
But being serious, I'd guess one pack of tiles would just enough to get away with a very small game. Very interested in the ruins...

I went from being interested in the tiles to "meh" pretty quickly, in part because of the size. 6 tiles only gets a 36x24 board.

Epic traditionally is played on the same sized board that you'd play a full game of 40k or Warhammer Fantasy. So either their rules rewrite is going to mean the game is more appropriate on a small board, or it's going to feel very cramped.

I plan to just buy four sets of the tiles so I can cover a 6'X4' table.

Here's hoping that doesn't wind up being a $200 investment.

It could be a lot more than that. A set of four 12"X12" Zone Mortalis tiles costs $80 on GW's website.

 Pariah Press wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Pariah Press wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
But being serious, I'd guess one pack of tiles would just enough to get away with a very small game. Very interested in the ruins...

I went from being interested in the tiles to "meh" pretty quickly, in part because of the size. 6 tiles only gets a 36x24 board.

Epic traditionally is played on the same sized board that you'd play a full game of 40k or Warhammer Fantasy. So either their rules rewrite is going to mean the game is more appropriate on a small board, or it's going to feel very cramped.

I plan to just buy four sets of the tiles so I can cover a 6'X4' table.

Here's hoping that doesn't wind up being a $200 investment.

It could be a lot more than that. A set of four 12"X12" Zone Mortalis tiles costs $80 on GW's website.

Oh yeah. Well, that's not good. Maybe these will be cheaper? ...god, I hope they are cheaper.

Well there's 6 tiles per box, rather than 4, so "cheaper" isn't the word I'd use.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I have zero interest in AT and even less in nuEpic... but man that terrain is nice.

It certainly is. I'm a sucker for nice terrain, although WH40k terrain takes up a hell of a lot of storage space. There is a lot of attraction to being able to recreate a sizable city. I have been kind of lukewarm about nu-Epic, but these terrain photos are luring me in. As is that Baneblade model - like the Epic Leman Russ, the design is quite different (and superior) to the WH40k version.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well there's 6 tiles per box, rather than 4, so "cheaper" isn't the word I'd use.

This is true, but they also appear to be much thinner and far less detailed. I suppose you get what you pay for. I'll be buying a neoprene mat this time around. The rest of you have fun missing out on the 30 second pre-order window.

 Breotan wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well there's 6 tiles per box, rather than 4, so "cheaper" isn't the word I'd use.

This is true, but they also appear to be much thinner and far less detailed. I suppose you get what you pay for. I'll be buying a neoprene mat this time around. The rest of you have fun missing out on the 30 second pre-order window.

No doubt with a limit of 1 per customer. Then a 6 month wait (and some praying) for them to come back in stock so you can play a larger game.

Will definitely be picking up a couple of sets of the ruins, got plenty of the regular buildings (two Grandmaster sets plus the large bundle box they did on release of AT and a couple of sets of spires). Also tempted by the tiles, kind of hoping they release after the starter set though, just to get an idea of how many would be needed, though maybe the recommended table size will leak before the release.

Looking at the scenery boxes, looks like we get, one with the ruins, one small box of regular buildings, one small box of buildings plus spires, and a large box which is basically a bundle of 4 of the smaller boxes in some combination.

...and while I know we've already seen one example of an LI Rhino, they feature prominantly in the new terrain video.

Yeah, I'm going to be a sucker for the new tiles. A little creativity and you can make sump rivers or elevation out of them.

Quite surprised at some of the reactions to the tiles and that having to make a 6 x 4 board using only those would put you off playing the New Epic.

You don't have to do anything like that. In fact, I think the battlefield looks better at this scale having a mix of natural surfaces and built up areas. That way you can have distinct city zones, industrial areas, but also forests, rivers, outposts and things of that nature.

Extreme example on a massive 12 x 4 board, but this is to give an idea. I got a cheap 3x4 gaming mat (very thin one) with cityscape design, cut out into block or road shapes, and then mounted on some cork backing. It was a very cheap way to do and didn't take very much time, and I think looks fine at this scale.

 Pacific wrote:

Extreme example

That board looks great!

Perhaps I'll get a set of tiles in the future. That kind of table layout is a good solution to get tiles to work with my martian-style game mat and Titan basing. Plus city tiles seem like a solid way to mount some of my unused industrial sector scatter terrain.

Same. All terrain is just more funky bits to throw into the merry mix of ideas, no need to be tied down into one set. A handful of 12" squares is excellent for Epic purposes with a smattering of roads and buildings and can fit nicely into deserts, grassy fields or even coastal features.

Like this air control tower turned artillery park.



Or these facilities getting stomped by a lot of titans.

 xttz wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
But being serious, I'd guess one pack of tiles would just enough to get away with a very small game. Very interested in the ruins...

I went from being interested in the tiles to "meh" pretty quickly, in part because of the size. 6 tiles only gets a 36x24 board.

Epic traditionally is played on the same sized board that you'd play a full game of 40k or Warhammer Fantasy. So either their rules rewrite is going to mean the game is more appropriate on a small board, or it's going to feel very cramped.

Or the game will play at 3x2, 4x3, and 6x4 boards at different point levels.

3x2 seems too small to me for any sort of game. 3' across the front would mean armies start only 2' apart, which seems absurdly close. 2' across the front would mean, well, only 2' to "flank" enemies.



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 Pacific wrote:
Quite surprised at some of the reactions to the tiles and that having to make a 6 x 4 board using only those would put you off playing the New Epic.

It hasn't put me off playing new Epic so much as not terribly interested in buying the boards... though I do wonder if they've butchered the rules to make it playable on tiny boards.


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 Pariah Press wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
But being serious, I'd guess one pack of tiles would just enough to get away with a very small game. Very interested in the ruins...

I went from being interested in the tiles to "meh" pretty quickly, in part because of the size. 6 tiles only gets a 36x24 board.

Epic traditionally is played on the same sized board that you'd play a full game of 40k or Warhammer Fantasy. So either their rules rewrite is going to mean the game is more appropriate on a small board, or it's going to feel very cramped.

I plan to just buy four sets of the tiles so I can cover a 6'X4' table.

Even ignoring the likely insane price of such an endeavour, that's going to be a lot of duplication. From the picture it looks like there's only 3 unique tiles duplicated to make a set of 6. So buying 4 sets means you'll have 8 of each tile.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Even ignoring the likely insane price of such an endeavour, that's going to be a lot of duplication. From the picture it looks like there's only 3 unique tiles duplicated to make a set of 6. So buying 4 sets means you'll have 8 of each tile.

Between the L-shaped tile shown in the video, plus the box having a very specific "city road tiles" description I suspect that there will be more versions released in future. Anyone planning to fill a full 6x4 board on day one might want to think about holding on a few weeks.

 xttz wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Even ignoring the likely insane price of such an endeavour, that's going to be a lot of duplication. From the picture it looks like there's only 3 unique tiles duplicated to make a set of 6. So buying 4 sets means you'll have 8 of each tile.

Between the L-shaped tile shown in the video, plus the box having a very specific "city road tiles" description I suspect that there will be more versions released in future. Anyone planning to fill a full 6x4 board on day one might want to think about holding on a few weeks.

Yeah, makes sense. I watched the video again and it does look like there's more than 3 unique tiles (seems there's 2 different crossroads), so perhaps the image on WarCom was just hacked together rather than an actual representation of what's in the box, or maybe we'll get more sets down the road.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, makes sense. I watched the video again and it does look like there's more than 3 unique tiles (seems there's 2 different crossroads), so perhaps the image on WarCom was just hacked together rather than an actual representation of what's in the box, or maybe we'll get more sets down the road.

Although the article also lists the contents as two straight roads, two T-junctions, and two crossroads, so if there are other designs coming then I guess they will be a separate later release. Kind of think if they were going to do a second set that they would go for something a bit different, but potentially I guess it could be an L-section, a section with no roads and something else, dead end, roundabout or something.

I have zero interest in Legions but I've been waiting for the Civitas buildings to be re-released so I can go crazy and build a 6 ft tall hive tower

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/27/heresy-thursday-teasing-a-trio-of-tiny-tanks/







Confirms that Rhinos come as a box of 10. Presumably the super-heavies are sold two at a time.

We now have the exact units from the stat leak so it could very well be true.

Will be interesting for next weeks reveal as if that is another SA/SM kit that leak is fake but if its more plastic titanicus stuff that would make the leak pretty trustworthy

Also, I notice it says that the Rhino's come in packs of 10, which maybe suggests that they won't be too pricey.

edit - Oh, I see that was already mentioned. But guess maybe it's going to be Transports in 10's, battle tanks in 3's and Heavies\Superheavies in 2's, at I would imagine probably a similar price each.

If Rhinos are 10 to a box, that presumes 5 per sprue plus options. Predators are 3 to a sprue since turrets and sponsons take up space. Sicarans are 2 to a sprue with turret options and sponsons. Kratos is 1 per sprue?

Id guess from there There will be a Spartan that is 1 per sprue, with extra space to convert it to Cerberus/Typhon, and Land Raiders as 2 per sprue, since they are bigger than sicarans but lack turrets. Felblade/Glaive would also be logical as another 1 per sprue kit.

On SA side, the Russ is 3 per sprue, and Malcador in 2 per sprue, with the baneblade as 1 per sprue presumably.

Aurox would be the rhino equivalent so kit of 10, sprues of 5. Dracosian would be the heavy transport, so 2 per sprue. There is also the Carnodon and Basilisk which both ought to be 3 per sprue. And if the Felblade comes out, I could see SA getting the Stormhammer as an equivalent.

Beautiful tiny tanks!

I hope I was not only one to notice Arvus?

 Sotahullu wrote:


I hope I was not only one to notice Arvus?

Sadly looks identical to the resin version to me

All excellent!

 Matrindur wrote:

 Sotahullu wrote:


I hope I was not only one to notice Arvus?

Sadly looks identical to the resin version to me

It probably is the resin version. Not everything is going to plastic right away. I believe most is just repackaged for now. The good thing is that there is no odd looking flight stand extension.

10 Rhinos to a box is a good sign.

Now waiting for the Forge World resin legion door sets for the Tiny Rhino because who doesn’t want to assemble models with toothpicks and tweezers?

Those tanks look lovely.

2 super heavies indicates a departure from the SM/2nd rules, as they were always deployed in companies of 3.

I wonder if this means it will have a 'bolt on' detachment style force chart, as with Epic 40k and Epic Armageddon.

What they've shown of this looks pretty good so far, those tiny Baneblades look great. Just makes me more disappointed its Horus Heresy only and not 40k though.

 Pacific wrote:
Those tanks look lovely.

2 super heavies indicates a departure from the SM/2nd rules, as they were always deployed in companies of 3.

I wonder if this means it will have a 'bolt on' detachment style force chart, as with Epic 40k and Epic Armageddon.

Companies were 3, but could also be Detachments of 1?

Super happy with sight of these. But wouldn’t have said no to a box count for the Kratos and Baneblades. Yes I think it probably is going to be. 2 per box. But only because “pictures are two and nice even number”. Which we should balance against the Rhinos coming in 10’s (a very nice count, for me).

Basically I’m like Johnny 5, craving all the input.