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Do you think it is worth purchasing the Index cards?

On one hand I hate having to go through hundreds of pages of a PDF on my phone to find one card to get the stats of that unit every five minutes and having the 8-10 cards I need on the table would be a million times faster and better.

The big problem is that there is an insane amount of errors on the pdf versions and there is no way GW would have had enough time to fix all of them so I would be buying cards I know are full of things that will be changed soon.

 KingGarland wrote:
Do you think it is worth purchasing the Index cards?

On one hand I hate having to go through hundreds of pages of a PDF on my phone to find one card to get the stats of that unit every five minutes and having the 8-10 cards I need on the table would be a million times faster and better.

The big problem is that there is an insane amount of errors on the pdf versions and there is no way GW would have had enough time to fix all of them so I would be buying cards I know are full of things that will be changed soon.

You answered your own question. Printed material is obsolete the moment its released, its not worth it.

 KingGarland wrote:
The big problem is that there is an insane amount of errors on the pdf versions and there is no way GW would have had enough time to fix all of them so I would be buying cards I know are full of things that will be changed soon.

This right here is what makes it not worth it in the slightest to me for the physical cards. I went to CVS and used the current 10 cent per print for 4x6 photos to have them print out the entire space marine and dark angels indexes for me. Bam physical copy right there.

I simply printed out the sheets for the units I actually need for the forces I'm using atm.
If I add anything I'll print as needed.

When I rotate forces? I'll print what I need.

ccs wrote:
I simply printed out the sheets for the units I actually need for the forces I'm using atm.
If I add anything I'll print as needed.

When I rotate forces? I'll print what I need.

Same. I bought all the codices and card decks for 8th and 9th and didn't regret it.
But buying a stack of cards that is already riddled with errors and has a high chance to be completely voided when the codex hits? At 10-12€ I might have considered, but it's just too expensive for a product with that many flaws.

 Jidmah wrote:

ccs wrote:
I simply printed out the sheets for the units I actually need for the forces I'm using atm.
If I add anything I'll print as needed.

When I rotate forces? I'll print what I need.

Same. I bought all the codices and card decks for 8th and 9th and didn't regret it.
But buying a stack of cards that is already riddled with errors and has a high chance to be completely voided when the codex hits? At 10-12€ I might have considered, but it's just too expensive for a product with that many flaws.

I think I'd be more inclined if they have a card trade-in program.

I think, it depends on the xero and lamination prices in a given country. I can print and laminate the entire GK deck for less then 10$. Ain't a deal for me, But I am a student and get a discount at my university. If it costs more to do on your own, then maybe it ain't that bad. But it will be becoming unusable for many factions. I wouldn't buy marines or the other early 10th armies.

I've printed them for orks on normal card in black and white, cost me a whole cartridge of ink toner, but now I can write on notes/points/corrections in pencil

I printed the SM Sheets, and ordered a Heavy Duty 40 or 50 sheet hole punch and a binder from Amazon.

I may play around with seeing if I can rescale them during printing - if you can shring them to 3x5 note cards when you're on the printing step making your own would probably blow the doors off of store bought no matter the price.

I've already got a laminating machine for making "business card" sized labels for seal-a-meal'ed meat (Print out Burger/Chicken/Ribeye/whatever on a business card, use the bulk business card lamination sleeves, laminate it, put it in the seal a meal bag with the meat, seal, freeze, you can read the card through the plastic bag)

It would be easy enough to do the same in 3x5 cards I suspect then stick them in a Reciple Card plastic bin type of container, color coded to your army.

Mine are printed on regular 8x11 paper, b&w.
Then I stuck them 3 hole page protectors & into a cheap 1/2" binder from the dollar store.
1 binder per force.
Then each binder goes into the appropriate army case.

So far I've done my Grot force, my Necrons, and one of my SM forces.

Breton wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

ccs wrote:
I simply printed out the sheets for the units I actually need for the forces I'm using atm.
If I add anything I'll print as needed.

When I rotate forces? I'll print what I need.

Same. I bought all the codices and card decks for 8th and 9th and didn't regret it.
But buying a stack of cards that is already riddled with errors and has a high chance to be completely voided when the codex hits? At 10-12€ I might have considered, but it's just too expensive for a product with that many flaws.

I think I'd be more inclined if they have a card trade-in program.

Or just wrap upgraded cards in a plastic foil and stick it to the next white dwarf and charge slightly more for it. You struggle to find a kids' magazine that doesn't come with a random toy, pokemon or ninjago cards (sometimes both) and some stickers. It can't be rokkit science.

 Jidmah wrote:

Breton wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

ccs wrote:
I simply printed out the sheets for the units I actually need for the forces I'm using atm.
If I add anything I'll print as needed.

When I rotate forces? I'll print what I need.

Same. I bought all the codices and card decks for 8th and 9th and didn't regret it.
But buying a stack of cards that is already riddled with errors and has a high chance to be completely voided when the codex hits? At 10-12€ I might have considered, but it's just too expensive for a product with that many flaws.

I think I'd be more inclined if they have a card trade-in program.

Or just wrap upgraded cards in a plastic foil and stick it to the next white dwarf and charge slightly more for it. You struggle to find a kids' magazine that doesn't come with a random toy, pokemon or ninjago cards (sometimes both) and some stickers. It can't be rokkit science.

Maybe not "and charge more for it" because White Dwarf covers all games. It can't cost them that much for these sorts of handouts. Charge more for the original cards to build in the cost of the update program - and this way its not a direct charge for updates to stuff you already bought which is the turnoff.

For £12 when my codex won't be out for over a year - yes I think they're worth it. I'm planning on printing any updates from the PDF and cutting out just the area that's changed to stick on the bought cards if it affects any of my units.

Depends if they actually fix any of the initial issues and imbalances or just say FU - wait for your Codex and then wait for its faqs....

If the former - well they should update the online cards so print them out.

If the latter - probably use the cards but why buy them tbh when they are on-line but if its easier and disposable income not an issue - do that

Two options that are working for me.

1. Convert the index PDF to PNG (there are free online sites that do this, google PDF to PNG converter). Then, upload to Walgreens, CVS or other store that prints photos. These two offered 50% off coupon codes. Get 4x6 photo sleeves and cards are finished. I printed Aeldari for @ $18 USD and DA/Space Marines for @ $24 USD. 4x6 sleeves can be bought for under $10 USD.

2. GW App. I did not like the 9th ed app, but (so far) the new app I can build my army list and each entry in the list has hyperlinks providing all data you would need. I use a tablet rather than a phone a d it is very easy to use on larger screen. It is quick to scroll through any relevant data this method.

Huh, wasn't it said there would only be 4 decks (Marines, Imperium, Xeons, Chaos)?

Now there's a deck per codex. And we know a few of them were invalid before the preoder even went up

When codex start coming out, we will be getting a set of cards for a new codex. And then probably event/sesonal decks for specific detachment. Maybe some SoB/IG detachment with special rules. Then some 50/50 pts demons+chaos etc. GW knows their books are a method of printing money.

Nids and Marines? We know to expect their Codecies, and new cards, in a matter of weeks so I’d say no.

The others? I guess. Unless you’ve a printer and can print the digital ones off.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Huh, wasn't it said there would only be 4 decks (Marines, Imperium, Xeons, Chaos)?

Now there's a deck per codex. And we know a few of them were invalid before the preoder even went up

As far as i know that was a misunderstanding based on the weekly price lists - these listed just these 4 packages, but these 4 packages are wholesale packs for FLGs and Independent stockists, intended to be split and sold separately.

Probably not bar the nostalgia dopamine rush of the smell as you open them

Try the 40K app, it’s just digital index cards

Sarigar wrote:


2. GW App. I did not like the 9th ed app, but (so far) the new app I can build my army list and each entry in the list has hyperlinks providing all data you would need. I use a tablet rather than a phone a d it is very easy to use on larger screen. It is quick to scroll through any relevant data this method.

This. I'm rethinking buying the cards at all after playing several games where everything is right there without leafing through anything. play area was also immensely less cluttered without printouts or cards beyond the mission ones.

best bet as I see it is to make your own, can be cheaper to print, for the specific units you have and can make sure its got all the info you want

Was going to the ORK ones as their codex is likely a while off but since using the app I will stick with that. Quick and once you get used to the process designing armies is easy enough. I’m on a tablet too, it works well. The pdfs take an age to load up. Might print some is I can.

mrFickle wrote:
Try the 40K app, it’s just digital index cards

I did try. The app is great for building, terrible for playing. For units with leaders having to go through three screens each time you want to look at a different datasheet is an absolute no-go.

For gaming you should either use PDF that was pre-compiled to match your list or some sort of physical representation.

The app is certainly not perfect, but its surprisingly good.

There are multiple free split and merge pdf apps. You can split your faction pdf into single pages. and merge only those pages you need.

 Jidmah wrote:

mrFickle wrote:
Try the 40K app, it’s just digital index cards

I did try. The app is great for building, terrible for playing. For units with leaders having to go through three screens each time you want to look at a different datasheet is an absolute no-go.

For gaming you should either use PDF that was pre-compiled to match your list or some sort of physical representation.

Not used it in a game yet but can imagine the things you say being issues. I will likely print out my army list/cards before battle.

Someone posted this link before and I looks a good way to do it.

https://game-datacards.eu

I keep seeing people say they are going to laminate their cards? But why?
If you're printing them yourself, they'll cost maybe US$0.10-0.20 each. If it gets messed up, just print another one.

There's also when or if they make corrections to the PDF files. Are you going to print and laminate a whole new set?

 SgtEeveell wrote:
I keep seeing people say they are going to laminate their cards? But why?...

Maybe they play drunk 40k a lot and are concerned about the survivability of their cards in proximity to all that beer.

Do you want to purchase something that is going to be invalidated within a month of purchase?

If you answered yes, then buy all the Index cards (only AUD$40 a pop! Bargain!). If you answered no, stick to the free ones.