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I know, I was expecting what you were expecting there. But here we are.

Just got back from seeing it and even paid the extra for a 3D viewing. While its always nice to see Superman grace the big screen, it felt like a mess and it's only right at the end of the film that I came to the conclusion that they should have spent the effort on a new Supergirl film instead.

Still, the new cast are happy in their work and those who are Sam Emerson-tier comic book fans will probably get the most kick out of all the extra characters in the film.

It definetly is a bit cluttered but how well one thinks they handled that will be a big factor in how much one likes it. I enjoyed it but thought it was good, not great.

It would be difficult for me to care less one way or another about Supergirl and as much as fans care for her I don't she has enough of a general audiences draw to put her at the front to draw people in so trying to use her as an intro to this new DCCU probably would have not gotten the attention or box office they are looking for.

The film seems to be doing well so, unsurprisingly, I'm sure there will be a sequel, not counting things like Justice League. Hopefully they'll use a villian that isn't some form of "bad" Superman ie Zod, Bizarro, (another) Clone, (actual) Ultraman. Maybe we could finally get Brainiac or Metallo?

Good not great I can agree with.

But it’s the Good Good. Not the polite Good.

What works for me is that the world has potential. Metahumans have been around 300 years, where Supes is 3 years into his career.

There’s a lot of room there for interesting stories.

Supergirl is confirmed for next year.

SamusDrake wrote:
Supergirl is confirmed for next year.

We knew that about a year ago.
Still happy you're getting the SG movie you want though.

Going back to my previous post?

ccs wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Supergirl is confirmed for next year.

We knew that about a year ago.
Still happy you're getting the SG movie you want though.

And...none of you thought...to...TELL ME? YOU ALL KNEW I WAS INTO HER!!!! Some wingmen you lot turned out to be!

It's not like it wasn't on the first page of this thread...

 Ghaz wrote:
It's not like it wasn't on the first page of this thread...

No one reads previous posts. I said Sascha Baron Cohen is playing Mephisto in the MCU... flash forward a bunch of pages and I see posts of people shocked that he is playing Mephisto, and that it totally came out of left field.

....

 Ghaz wrote:
It's not like it wasn't on the first page of this thread...

What can I say, I completely overlooked it.

I legitimately loved this movie and while its definitely a bit weird and awkward in parts I think the cast really makes the film. Corenswet has a perfect, slightly dorky hopefulness to him that really allows him to be the best while also not being enough and the chemistry with Brosnahan keeps the film grounded no matter how weird it gets. Lex is great. The other heroes are great, though Hawkgirl definitely gets the short straw of that bunch.

I think what really does it for me is how much the movie gets Superman. It's definitely Gunn's paraphrasing of the meaning behind "what's so funny about truth, justice and the American way" but the movie takes that sentiment and makes it the heart of the character. This movie really gets how important the Planet and Smallville are to making Clark Kent the heart of the character.

Bit on the end:

I was the only one who laughed at those visual references in the theater.




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Side note on the merchandising: when we entered the theater on Sat for the 6pm showing, there were half a dozen plush Kryptos for sale on the merch rack. When we left the movie, they were all sold out.

Krypto was definitely not what I expect, but the reason for it was definitely fantastic. Really looking forward to exploring that mess.

I'm going to go see this movie with my Mom and Dad this weekend. My Mom sent me with one mission before we go see the movie.... one spoiler she needs to know (because she will not watch the film it certain things occur in it)

Does a/the dog die?/get badly injured?

Nothing to worry about, Lathe.

I’ll answer that.

Thank you.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I'm going to go see this movie with my Mom and Dad this weekend. My Mom sent me with one mission before we go see the movie.... one spoiler she needs to know (because she will not watch the film it certain things occur in it)

Does a/the dog die?/get badly injured?

Dog does not die. They are not insane.

I will say though:

I always thought I was an only child, recently though, she was talking about her favorite "children." I was not number 1.

So, this could've been a deal breaker. There's a reason why John Wick 1 has never been aired in our home.

I think it was a good film. I grew up on British reprints of 80s American comics in the 90s, or buying collections of actual comics years after the fact, so despite being a good bit younger than Gunn it seems like we grew up reading similar stuff. I love the Justice League International era and Guy Gardner was my first Green Lantern. So in a lot of ways this was fully aimed at me. That said, I hate Grant Morrisson and the bits that are influenced by Morrisson comics I didn't like as much.

I also didn't like Krypto that much - train your terrifying superpowered dog Superman, he's a threat to everyone around him!

I also dislike the DC and Marvel trope of making up fake caricature countries but still having America be a real place. Really drives home that Americans subconsciously don't consider foreigners real people sometimes. I felt the attempt at a reference to real world events was hamfisted and deserved a bit more time and care if you're gonna try to do it.

But overall a good film, they got Superman right (I loved that he was always so nice and focused on saving people), Lois was great and had actual meaningful stuff to do, and Lex was great as well, best on screen version of Lex Luthor.

 Da Boss wrote:
train your terrifying superpowered dog Superman

Are you sure you watched the movie?

The first official material for Supergirl has been released.

With bloody hands?

Looks ominous.

I'm intrigued and listening.

They definitely set up the potential for a VERY interesting take on the character in several ways.

I'm guessing there will be a scene in the film...

"Its the coat right? Boys love the coat."

SamusDrake wrote:
I'm guessing there will be a scene in the film...

"Its the coat right? Boys love the coat."

It's supposed to draw on Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, a series that opened (IIRC) with Supergirl getting drunk on her 21st birthday in a dive bar under a red sun. She then went on an interstellar odyssey with an orphan girl to hunt down a space pirate or something.

It's been a few years but my memory is it was pretty good and not as transgressive as it sounds.

https://www.amazon.com/Supergirl-Woman-Tomorrow-Tom-King/dp/1779515685

Ahtman: I did, he's responsible for the dog so he should train it not to attack stuff.

 Da Boss wrote:
Ahtman: I did, he's responsible for the dog so he should train it not to attack stuff.

So you either missed or are ignoring the fact that the dog actually belongs to Kara?

He's just caring for Krypto while Kara's away.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
I'm guessing there will be a scene in the film...

"Its the coat right? Boys love the coat."

It's supposed to draw on Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, a series that opened (IIRC) with Supergirl getting drunk on her 21st birthday in a dive bar under a red sun. She then went on an interstellar odyssey with an orphan girl to hunt down a space pirate or something.

It's been a few years but my memory is it was pretty good and not as transgressive as it sounds.

https://www.amazon.com/Supergirl-Woman-Tomorrow-Tom-King/dp/1779515685

I believe Woman of Tomorrow was the working subtitle as well. I was also just reminded that Jason Mamoa is set show up in this film as... Lobo instead of returning as Aquaman, which honestly sounds perfect.