If they do the whole crew, I hope it's another stretch goal add on to the $20 set. Not because I feel like they should be or think I'm entitled to it, only because I'm going to have to skip them(which means skipping the first set, too) due to not having the money!
That would suck for you :\ But if they do some other awesome characters of other setting you like, you'll be fethed in the same situation :S
True dat, but I can always not get Not-6.
I didn't watch new BSG.
If it gets really bad with the amount of extras, I'll probably drop the Lights-out Campaign(though I'll be sad, I love gimmicky models) like I did the terrain. Unfortunately, I'm limited to a very hard amount due to mortgage payment being that day, too. The IRS already believes we don't own our house, don't want to make it actually true.
Platuan4th wrote:True dat, but I can always not get Not-6.
I didn't watch new BSG.
If it gets really bad with the amount of extras, I'll probably drop the Lights-out Campaign(though I'll be sad, I love gimmicky models) like I did the terrain. Unfortunately, I'm limited to a very hard amount due to mortgage payment being that day, too. The IRS already believes we don't own our house, don't want to make it actually true.
You should definitely watch BSG reimagined and Caprica. And be eager like me to see Blood & Chrome, too xD
I have a mortage too, I'm playing with my little savings so I won't screw it. There some stuff I'm noy buying here, and I won't buy 6th ed 40k rulebook in a couple of months.
The optional extras are definitely nice, but not liking the aesthetics of grav vehicles (I'd rather they had legs or wheels like a Tachikoma instead of just flying around by fiat) or Strain, the Biohazard pledge still doesn't grab me.
Erasoketa wrote:You should definitely watch BSG reimagined and Caprica.
You really shouldn't. The ending of nBSG is... distasteful.
Spoiler:
The series ends with everyone basically rolling over and waiting to die, Luddite style.
AlexHolker wrote:The optional extras are definitely nice, but not liking the aesthetics of grav vehicles (I'd rather they had legs or wheels like a Tachikoma instead of just flying around by fiat) or Strain, the Biohazard pledge still doesn't grab me.
Erasoketa wrote:You should definitely watch BSG reimagined and Caprica.
You really shouldn't. The ending of nBSG is... distasteful.
Spoiler:
The series ends with everyone basically rolling over and waiting to die, Luddite style.
really ? i didnt see it like that ... oh and the followers of general ludd are the last people who would of "rolled over and waited to die ! "
Novel isn't a stretch goal unless it is free. The guy just said he they hit 500k and million he would write.
I hope they throw in some more cool stuff, less then 4k to go until all 4 crew members are unlocked. This game is going to be massive with how much stuff it comes with.
IdentifyZero wrote:Novel isn't a stretch goal unless it is free.
To be fair, the strain characters, GitD Strain, or the Opti-camo Characters aren't free stretch goals.
And to get really technical, none of them are, since you have to purchase the Biohazard level to get them.
Let me clarify: We're supporting a board/minis game. Not a novel. Whether or not they want to write one of a million other bad sci-fi novels, is up to them. Given the level of support the game has got, compared to what they needed; there is no excuse not to continue with amazing stretch goals.
I want to get my hands on the minis and game. I don't want to waste my time reading a SW book or know that the nearly $500 I have pledged ended up leading us to a book.
I shouldn't guess the quality will be bad, but I think a Sedition Wars book based on the terrible quality of the writing for lore on the kickstarter etc... yeah, I would have to definitely pass and feel like they wasted their time.
Could you imagine a BETTER way to kill this kickstarter? Let's sell you all a book by an unknown author in an unknown universe, where much of the writing shown via kickstarter has been laughable. Yep! I'm on board.
Don't get me wrong, I like Studio McVey, I like Sedition Wars but um, these guys should stick to miniatures and designing games; not trying to break through in the literary world. Black Library supplies enough poorly written and overpriced sci fi by bad authors.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm just bitching because I can. I think a book as anything other than something they do, unrelated to this kickstarter would be bad.
Throwing in the firefly crew and more optionals for biohazard clearly just netted a bunch of sales a few hundred NEW backers. If they did other stuff like that, this would only get better.
I can't see a book drawing the kickstarter to higher levels. (Whatever though, I've got more than enough out of this to keep me occupied for a year at this rate).
gunslingerpro wrote:I rather liked the fluff on the Kickstarter.
Really, REALLY hoping the next stretch doesn't send my wallet into hiding. Barely was able to find the poor bugger after not-6 showed up...
That's your choice I don't discourage anyone from liking it. The problem is, it's basically mash-up universe that is borrowing quite definitively (not counting these figures from other settings) within the main setting from other universes. There is nothing original about it or attention grabbing in terms of the story.
What does catch the attention and has since it was first mentioned (long before Kickstarter) were the models, not the amateur storyline.
1.5k until the firefly crew now... looks like they are trucking along now! Does anyone remember where they started this morning total wise? Seems to me they did something like 30k_ in the last 24 hrs...
Though I've kinda noticed that the last two stretch updates had two stretch goals each. One for biohazard and one for the extra stuff. Wonder if that trend will continue
I hope it does. I think it's pretty brilliant. They feed off each other as new peope who pledge for the biohazard for extra free stuff help get the new non-biohazard bonus while the buyable add-ons also fund the new free stuff for the new biohazard users. Pretty damned brilliant actually.
I hope it does. I think it's pretty brilliant. They feed off each other as new peope who pledge for the biohazard for extra free stuff help get the new non-biohazard bonus while the buyable add-ons also fund the new free stuff for the new biohazard users. Pretty damned brilliant actually.
...and now they give the biohazard buyers a character (enticing them, perhaps, to buy more?) and put up some repeat models as paid extras. Smart!
God my wallet is hurting after Mantic's kickstarter, but I might just jump in on biohazard (and some extras?) as well
I heard someone mention perhaps being able to pay for the extras a month later via some pledge manager on zombicide? what happened there and do we know/suspect if they'll do that again?
Do you just pay the pledge you want first and pay for extras later? Because that would be awesome and I would drop back down to 100 to save me some money for lunch for the next week.
H.B.M.C. wrote:I know their optiional. I'm debating whether or not I should get them.
Hmmm... $25 for tiles and $10 each for 6 more mini-drones and 6 more crabs totals $45.
Another $45 more gets you another Biohazard box with all of the Biohazard upgrades, including the extra cost tile set and six each of mini-drones and crabs.
That second $45 gets you 32 more minis...
It's like McVey has a secret machine designed to seek out my wallet...
I'm honestly not sure what would top all this... a not-Kerrigan maybe? (What can I say, I'm a sucker for a chitinous lady...)
Then again, all the extras are really adding up, heh. I took a look at it, and even just getting the extra figures (and I planned to get more), at Biohazard we're talking $160. Then there is the tile pack, the terrain pack... decisions, decisions....
sparkywtf wrote:How did the pledge manager for zombiecide work?
Do you just pay the pledge you want first and pay for extras later? Because that would be awesome and I would drop back down to 100 to save me some money for lunch for the next week.
You pledge a certain amount (say $110). Then, you select what tier of pledge you qualify for ($110 qualifies you for the popular Biohazard tier). After the Kickstarter campaign is over, they'll send around a survey that'll ask you what you want to spend your extra pledged money on.
AFAIK, there is no indication that you'll be allowed to buy the optionals after the Kickstarter ends.
Well the Firefly crew seems to be the first extra figures I will be getting, I was never a fan of Alien or BSG, but I can't resist Firefly...
and apparently a lot of other people like it to, $46k was pledged today according to kicktrack (I was away all day and it was a pleasant surprise to find the drones and crabs in the game and the Firefly crew with the stretch goal completed)
50k is reasonable for a completely free model for all biohazard+ backers (2578 models at present). That's a lot of free individual models to give.
I'm not seeing much of a drop off in the speed of the kickstarter. With Riddick added the biohazard comes with 94 models without any of the add-ons. That's going to bring in some backers. Riddick and the "Calamity" crew are pretty close to Ash/Chuck Norris on Zombicide.
I've been trying to get some info from the game designers about the size of the brain bugs and mini-drones but so far no luck
I always thought the "Brainbugs" would be sized such that their 'head' is the size of a Human head. Essentially the whole unit would be the size of a 28mm-scale average-sized dog.
Plus, they're essentially homages to Facehuggers and Headcrabs (which are Facehugger homages), and I'd expect them to be that sized.
I figured not but I've got a couple of ideas for what I'd like them to count-as if I pick up a few more bonus ones
I'm already in for $270 (We've Got Movement, 2x"Calamity Crew, 1xall other characters) and I'm closing out at $300 max so unless they release another pay for model I'll probably be adding either the terrain or additional drones/face huggers
This is simply fantastic. I may have to bump up ten dollars for the sake of bumping up ten dollars. I may get a second number 6, but I have no idea why.
At that pace we'll hit tomorrow night around 7pm central american time. That'll give us 3 more days to go until it closes so I hope there are some more stretches
Two more days I’d say. There are points in the 24 hour cycle where North America and Western Europe sleeps. It can’t all be down to us Aussies to make things happen.
H.B.M.C. wrote:I know their optiional. I'm debating whether or not I should get them.
Well, they're both - you get a set of drones and facehuggerheadcrabs with each biohazard set, but you can buy extras.
And if you don't have enough of these things....
Each Biohazard set already comes with these, but if you need more, here they are! Ships with the rest of them in March 2013, unpainted and unassembled.
Just to show what everybody is talking about but is not yet posted:
And so... the end is near. We therefore present you the violent, dangerous, mysterious, Keegan Kor! If we hit this stretch every Biohazard set will have Keegan lurking within! (You'll need to paint and assemble him though, if he'll let you).
"The Solar Conglomerate rarely issues death orders for escaped convicts or conscripts, but the fugitive known as Keegan Kor, the Snake of Garrado, the Blade, King Kor, or Keegan Rampage, is one such individual.
A top ten fugitive on the Bounty Dog Network for six years running, his crimes pale in comparison to his exploits as a fugitive. Convicted to a conscription sentence for illegal free running and snatch theft, Keegan soon found himself evading the law using quick wits and an unnatural talent as an autodidact. He has been at large for almost ten years, becoming increasingly more skilled at escape and evasion to the frustration of Solcom enforcement and BDN agents.
Prior to his conviction Keegan was a non-augmented human in perfect physical condition. Since then, he has been amplified by black market chop docs and Gazui clan enforcement medics. He boasts an impressive array of edge Amps that enhance his considerable survival instincts and acrobatic abilities. Considered an expert knife fighter, Keegan is to be approached with extreme caution.
Despite his reputation, when faced with life or death survival he often places the survival of others above his own. In many cases he has saved his own potential captors from death, and even put an end to the pirate Czarna Kolt’s reign of terror along the Meridian Edge.
His status as a cult figure and the ratings he pulls in on the BDN has led some to believe that he may actually be a media figure created for the benefit of public manipulation. Still it is assumed that the Fugitive has now made contact with the Firebrand in order to find amnesty from the constant pursuit by the BDN and Solcom Regulators.
The reward for his live capture is substantial."
BTW there should be fan rules for all the Sedition Wars and Zombicide and Hasslefree characters, transferred to each of the two games.
Yeah,
I'm debating On increasing to we've got movement.
I could buy these for $45 (Second set of tiles $25, 6 drones $10, 6 facehuggers $10)
Or for $105 for a complete second biohazard set. (including international postage)
I think I need to stay strong and just get the game terrain and characters.... Does AI drone two need baby drones?
Good grief, take your eyes off for a few days and its nearing $500,000! Not keen on the not-riddick as I am about all homage minis, but if its free so be it! Wonder what else they'll roll out. I'm currently sat at $175 - Biohazard, Lights Out pack and the $25 P&P. Everything else can wait.
Shame they don't look at releasing some limited resin in-universe not homage character boosters. I can see those being popular as I've seen a lot people voicing disinterest in homage characters.
I'm all for more homage characters, they are still in game special characters and in this game we can expect a VERY high quality sculpt. Perfect for a one off like a kickstarter.
I would also suggest that they start adding freebies at higher levels of combined pledging. This would encourage people to bump up to higher levels and be a way to keep some of the freebies rolling in without it being too onerous.
I am currently at around $200, but that's because I love the homage stuff (getting all of it). But if for the next freebies I need to add a little more to share in them, I would most likely push my goal up.
Exact same way that Mantic rolled me and my poor wallet of $245!!!! Needed to hit that $225 goal (darn non inclusive postage costs )
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Yeah I got the lights out as well, was unsure when I first looked because something in my addled brain said I needed to buy all three packs at $110.
When I saw it was only the $50 one, I was right in.
Hoping to see more things added, and can stretch maybe another $50 if need be
I do like the idea of Lights Out now. I hope they'll give us an option to get lights out versions of the AI Drone, Grendlr and Cthonian
Will they be doing strain versions of the Serenity crew and main characters from the box set. All the extra characters up to this point seem to get strain versions.
While these stretch goals are nice, I don't recognize any of the homage characters apart from not-6. I think there may be others out there like me who would be more interested in some more alt sculpts for the strain or vanguard. Whatever the case I will probably just spend the money saved on not buying the characters on more drones and scenery!
Also, I could not figure out if all the tokens in the set had been upgraded to plastic. The infection markers obviously have but I would love to see some cool looking see-through nano cloud markers also!
Myrthe wrote:I think I'm going to HAVE TO double my initial Biohazard pledge !! And get a few of the not-Serenity crew ...
I'd love to see them make those scenic bases available, too. Maybe in sets of 10 of each size? I'd use them with so many other miniatures !!
THAT is a good idea - I'd like to get more of the bases, and in plastic too!
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Alpharius wrote:
endtransmission wrote:I'll bet Mike and co. are counting down the hours until they can stop with all the stretch goals
Doubtful - as each stretch goal brings in a LOT more money!
Ok, let me rephrase that... I'm sure they will be relieved when it's all over and they can sleep
Maybe?
This has got to be an exciting time for them.
I have to think they've got something special lying in wait for us in an attempt to whip the gaming public into a pledging/increasing their pledge frenzy in an effort to overtake Zombicide's ~$700K - with a 'dare to dream' goal of topping Ogre's ~$900K!
What was that company that made the either plastic or resin spaceship hallways, ala spacehulk?
I would like to get me a delux set of them to add in between the cardstock tiles.
Along with that, I really like the range that this game is poping out.
going to end up padding around 500 or so for the final count, seeing how this is shaping up. Along with that, is there a sourcebook already out there, on this "Sedition Wars" world? I see on the site that there are a few metal guys, do they work in this game as well?
*Note to self, make sure you fill out the survey correctly so I don't end up forking over a cool grand for the damage.
Alpharius wrote:
It will undoubtedly be a 'homage' character figure though - but who?!?
I don't think that would work, at the moment I see this jumping if there is a big advantage in jumping up from biohazard. There seems to be a lot of people on the edge.
if they do i'll cancel my pledge how about blade runner ? or buckaroo banzi or barberella or that lil robot bear thing from origonal battle star galactica ?
Alpharius wrote:
It will undoubtedly be a 'homage' character figure though - but who?!?
I don't think that would work, at the moment I see this jumping if there is a big advantage in jumping up from biohazard. There seems to be a lot of people on the edge.
It worked REALLY well with Zombicide, so I wouldn't be surprised to see something similar here.
3D tiles would be amazing! I could imagine them doing something like that as an expansion though I agree that it is a little late in the campaign to add something like that.
Myrthe wrote:I think I'm going to HAVE TO double my initial Biohazard pledge !! And get a few of the not-Serenity crew ...
I'd love to see them make those scenic bases available, too. Maybe in sets of 10 of each size? I'd use them with so many other miniatures !!
Try checking the studio mcvey website, I own a ton of their bases. Quality is good, but costs are too high. Even Mike has told me in the past the prices of the bases are high but it's th elowest he can charge. Check them out, but I would not recommend them for 40k as they seem less they seem almost imperceptibly smaller than the normal GW round base.
Expansion shouldn't be too hard to do, anyways. We know it'll include Firebrand (which they already have) and probably some addtional tiles, etc. I won't lie; the ability to get some of those exo-suits in plastic gives me a nerd boner.
As much as I think a predator would be cool, I don't really think it fits in any way. I'm not a huge Star Trek tNG fan, but I think using Data as the android addition could be decent; that is, if androids exist in this particular universe.
Alpharius wrote:With 4 days left to go and surprise stretch goals to come (I'm convinced!), this thing will end up over $600K most likely!
I can't figure out what would be a good stretch goal to really get everyone going though...
It will undoubtedly be a 'homage' character figure though - but who?!?
I'll second my own wishful thinking about a Kerrigan (StarCraft, not Olympics) model. As a) I think the Strain Hexen model looked awesome, and you can never have enough well done cool monster ladies, and b) huge following.
Also, it's a character that is on the one hand extreme enough in design that it can be captured in a mini fairly easily, but similar enough to the strain aesthetic that it's plausibly fitting into the game.
Characters like Data, say, or figures from Star Wars I don't really see, as the aesthetic of those properties doesn't (in my mind) really lend itself to what we have.
'Course, any and all such things are just sauce, the meal we have already is amazing.
Alpharius wrote:With 4 days left to go and surprise stretch goals to come (I'm convinced!), this thing will end up over $600K most likely!
I can't figure out what would be a good stretch goal to really get everyone going though...
It will undoubtedly be a 'homage' character figure though - but who?!?
I'll second my own wishful thinking about a Kerrigan (StarCraft, not Olympics) model. As a) I think the Strain Hexen model looked awesome, and you can never have enough well done cool monster ladies, and b) huge following.
Also, it's a character that is on the one hand extreme enough in design that it can be captured in a mini fairly easily, but similar enough to the strain aesthetic that it's plausibly fitting into the game.
Characters like Data, say, or figures from Star Wars I don't really see, as the aesthetic of those properties doesn't (in my mind) really lend itself to what we have.
'Course, any and all such things are just sauce, the meal we have already is amazing.
Think of both Kerrigan's in the clear Opti-camo form! Would have to get multiple of those for sure.
Alpharius wrote:Does "Doom Guy" even have a name or a personality though?
I mean, we know he likes Nine Inch Nails, maybe, but other than that?
Isn't he "the Marine/Space Marine" or something similay super-generic?
I'm inclined against him if only because when I think of Doom, I think first person mode, not what the guy looked like. Actually, I'm not totally sure my mental image isn't Duke Nukem...
The awesome little robot dudes from 'Silent Running'
Otherwise, a couple of other ideas:
- Captain Kirk
- Doctor Who
- 'Macready' (Kurt Russell's character) from 'The Thing' (armed in winter gear, and flamethrower of course!) - I mean come on, the 'Strain' are basically the 'Thing' anyway! - Randy Roddy Piper from 'They Live' (complete with special sunglasses)
The awesome little robot dudes from 'Silent Running'
Otherwise, a couple of other ideas:
- Captain Kirk
- Doctor Who
- 'Macready' (Kurt Russell's character) from 'The Thing' (armed in winter gear, and flamethrower of course!) - I mean come on, the 'Strain' are basically the 'Thing' anyway! - Randy Roddy Piper from 'They Live' (complete with special sunglasses)
Huey, Duey, and Louie!!!
Oh MY!!! Where did you find those at!?!?!?
Haven't seen that movie in years!
As for Kurt Russell- Snake Plisskin. Or some of the guys from Ghost Of Mars....
Do these guys size up well with Hasslefree minis?
A couple of others, might be Dieter Laser, from The Human Centipede, Bishop/ or other Synthoid from Aliens.
I haven't seen a Lance Henrickson mini, yet.
Another one to look at would be Rutger Hauer from Bladerunner.
I've personally enjoyed a lot of the homage characters, especially the firefly crew. Probs won't use them in-game, but they'll be a lot of fun to paint up!
That being said, I have a horrible feeling the final stretch will be someone like master chief. I really, really hope not (there's so much sci fi stuff to plunder!), but it'll definitely be a populist choice...
In the end they made 55k yesterday. That's their biggest day to date. For the 26th (which it still is in some parts of the world) they've made 30k, which is their 4th biggest day, and the day isn't over yet.
Grr....I'm just having such a hard time choosing what I want to get of the extras. With a wedding in a week and being out of work right now, finances are tight.
I've mostly decided that I only want the product that I can not only play the base game with, but which would also have the most utility in the skirmish-level games I want to play outside of Alabaster Station with the main game's models/rules. I think right now the favorites are the Opticamo Vanguard, and Ridley, and maybe one other figure set. I really want the Calamity Crew as they are awesome to paint(and I'm a Firefly fan- duh), but they have very low utility in a skirmish wargame, where (both) versions of Ridley and the Evolved Proto-Phaedrus definitely do.
I'm just watching here that CoolMiniorNot is making like 1.500.000$ with these products.
And part of this incredible success is because they are using characters from other franchises, and they do not own the copyrights to do that.
It is a very attractive idea: -"Let's put Bruce Willis in this!!!" and it generates a reaction: -"Wow! Die Hard! cool, take my money!"
And I think this is getting dangerous because you'll never know when the lawyers are goign to kick some doors and try to get some of that excepcional ammount of money.
Of course, this doesn't happen in the miniature industry because it is so small and it makes no money... until it makes 1.5 million dollars through crowdfounding.
I like the basic ideas of both Zombiecide and SeditionWars, but I think the funny cameos can bring some problems when this is getting as big as 1.5M$
The thing is... Ok, Batman is cool but you cannot use him in your next Kickstarter project.
BobbaFett wrote:And I think this is getting dangerous because you'll never know when the lawyers are goign to kick some doors and try to get some of that excepcional ammount of money. Of course, this doesn't happen in the miniature industry because it is so small and it makes no money... until it makes 1.5 million dollars through crowdfounding.
The US(where CMON is based) allows parody for the purpose of entertainment. This type of homage falls under parody and is thus protected under Fair Use.
At least from my understanding of law covering parody.
I think one of the only Star Wars characters you could get away with is some version of Boba Fett - a bounty hunter looking for rebel Firebrands. But including not-Boba Fett would just look a little too much like pandering.
The not-Serenity crew is really making me want to back this game but I am still smarting from my $180 Zombicide backing and the cost of jumping to 40k 6th edition.
I am really going to have to think things over in the next few days because the LE minis for this game are quite tempting!
Ok... maybe not that obscure. There are many things in miniature form that the world doesn't need. Sean Connery in his underwear is one of those things. And I'm aware that one does already exist. One is more than enough.
So these bad boys normally sell for $25 in their metal version, and come with one set of arms. Get them know for $15 each with Flamer and Pulse Cannon arms too! So you got 4 arms to choose from.
The fiendish protective geniuses at Battlefoam have put together a nice little kit to carry around all your Biohazard contents and then some. Great if you intend to paint the game! This bag will be available for sale later, but ships free in the USA if you get it from us now. International shipping please add $25. All Not a Natural Color and other painted sets will include one of these bags to protect your babies already for free.
"Trapped in the cargo facility, conscript Jada "Iron" Lily has survived while jacked into a sturdy THI lifter. Now Jada is clocking some harsh overtime, crushing strain skulls and trying to escape the predatory contagion infecting Alabaster station."
If we hit this stretch, every Biohazard set gets Iron Lily! She may be a little squishy without her THI carapace though... (hint hint). And not to worry, if we don't hit this stretch she'll be available in the CKPM as an option!
LOVE the suit, but might skip out on that due to cost... the bag though... if there was a reason to make my bid higher I would, but at the moment, there is no reason to go higher in $ terms other than more stuff...
I was tempted by those before, for counts-as terminators, but the price (22 pounds ) on his website put me off. For $15 apiece... hmmmmmmm....
Would they be able to be ordered separately? A friend just tried to pledge for the Serenity models and found out those could only be added to a Biohazard pledge. Is it that way for all of the "extras", or can some things just be pledged for... like these beauties?
RiTides wrote:Would they be able to be ordered separately? A friend just tried to pledge for the Serenity models and found out those could only be added to a Biohazard pledge. Is it that way for all of the "extras", or can some things just be pledged for... like these beauties?
It's for everything. "I have money and would like to buy your models" apparently isn't good enough for CMoN.
They're described as being on 40mm bases and over 40mm tall on the webpage:
This is the Mattock Variant of the Thorn Heavy Industries Utility Carapace. This miniature is a high quality resin, multi part kit. It comes complete with both the open and closed carapace top and separate pilot head. Supplied unpainted with 40mm plastic base.
Comes complete with left claw and right heavy weapon.
This miniature stands over 40mm tall and comes in 8 highly detailed resin pieces.
This is the Maul Variant of the Thorn Heavy Industries Utility Carapace. This miniature is a high quality resin, multi part kit. It comes complete with both the open and closed carapace top and separate pilot head. Supplied unpainted with 40mm plastic base.
Comes complete with right claw and left heavy weapon.
This miniature stands over 40mm tall and comes in 8 highly detailed resin pieces.
Alex- Bummer! Although, it could be a problem using these en masse, anyway, if all the legs are posed the same (as the two models on his site are).
However, the concept art shows a different pose of legs, so that's interesting. I wonder which it would be, or if he'd offer options? From the text it mentions 4 sets of arms, but nothing about alternate legs / etc.
I'll pass, the only must haves for me are the things I can't get afterwards without going to a convention that they happen to be at.
I grudgingly agree. I really want one (or two) of those THI's to accompany my Vanguards, but I think I'd rather spend the $25 and buy them when the game ships to me, rather than waiting 4 months more for plastic ones. Especially if that frees up $30 on the kickstarter for something like the Opticamo minis, or three additional characters.
If they shipped with the game, like the Lights out stuff, I'd be right on them for sure.
It's too bad, they're awesome, and with all four weapon options on top of that!
Note, those painted pics are from his store/site, not necessarily the exact Kickstarter ones.
The different posing of the legs is what is making me wonder... obviously they'd be making a new mold to have it done in plastic. But the walking legs (the painted models on his site) look a lot better than the two legs together like the artwork on the KS page has, imo.
whalemusic360 wrote:Ya know what, screw 6th. Adding three suits and the foam. Up to 355 for biohazard level.
Hear hear! GW can wait to get my money, heck, I may even give it a break and switch to Sed-wars and Infinity for a year!
Those suits are just what I was hoping for, even if they have the single pose, plastic should make them easier to convert.
$600k until the next stretch goal? Seems like the gaps between the goals are growing fast. Ah well, if we achieve it there is a free mini so I can't complain!
whalemusic360 wrote:Ya know what, screw 6th. Adding three suits and the foam. Up to 355 for biohazard level.
Hear hear! GW can wait to get my money, heck, I may even give it a break and switch to Sed-wars and Infinity for a year!
Those suits are just what I was hoping for, even if they have the single pose, plastic should make them easier to convert.
$600k until the next stretch goal? Seems like the gaps between the goals are growing fast. Ah well, if we achieve it there is a free mini so I can't complain!
Best thing you could do is put the money from 6th book into this, I don't think a deal on high quality miniatures like this will come again for a very very long time. Biohazard right now with just the miniatures and bases is an insane value.
IdentifyZero wrote:
...I don't think a deal on high quality miniatures like this will come again for a very very long time.
I was thinking the same thing after I funded Zombicide.
And then...
We will have to disagree here. I didn't find the zombicide miniatures to be very high quality in comparison to Sedition Wars. I found them comparable to pretty much every other amateur miniature releases for the most part, a few of the special figures were nice but, not for me.
I guess you're talking quality of the original sculpts?
The material used in the zombicide ones looked a bit cheap. Not sure what material is being used here / if it's comparable?
Certainly, the models in games like Super Dungeon Explore have seemed to be made of somewhat cheap plastic, too... not totally sure that these things can be considered hobby quality, but maybe I'm wrong there, or the material here is different?
Gotta disagree on Zombiecide. I got to get hands on with them at Adepticon and they were very nice and detailed. It was a harder plastic like the Gears of war minis are made of and not the traditional soft ish plastic you typically see in a board game.
Well, in for Biohazard, Ridley, Ramirez, Calamity Crew, Opticamo pack, and Terrain pack...I may have to jump on at least one of these suits too as yet another centerpiece.
And lastly, I sprang for Kara's Last Stand off of the Studio McVey site. Should be cool as an alternate model/painting exercise at the very least, but has there been any word on whether they'll make stat cards for older LE minis?
I'm feeling pretty good about this. I had to cut short a demo Mike was running me through at GenCon last year to get to an event, but I promised to look out for the game when it was available. So, there.
cincydooley wrote:Gotta disagree on Zombiecide. I got to get hands on with them at Adepticon and they were very nice and detailed.
I did too, and thought they were nice and detailed... for boardgame miniatures. Nowhere near the quality shown here.
I see what you did there. Yeah I'll agree with the Zombicide folks on that, for a boardgame they were good. Sedition Wars stuff is simply fantastic though.
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Zefig wrote:Well, in for Biohazard, Ridley, Ramirez, Calamity Crew, Opticamo pack, and Terrain pack...I may have to jump on at least one of these suits too as yet another centerpiece.
And lastly, I sprang for Kara's Last Stand off of the Studio McVey site. Should be cool as an alternate model/painting exercise at the very least, but has there been any word on whether they'll make stat cards for older LE minis?
I'm feeling pretty good about this. I had to cut short a demo Mike was running me through at GenCon last year to get to an event, but I promised to look out for the game when it was available. So, there.
The stuff like Kara's Last Stand is bigger than 28mm so would not work with SW. They have said they will be releasing stats for any models they previously sold in the SW range on the website.
cincydooley wrote:Gotta disagree on Zombiecide. I got to get hands on with them at Adepticon and they were very nice and detailed.
I did too, and thought they were nice and detailed... for boardgame miniatures. Nowhere near the quality shown here.
I see what you did there. Yeah I'll agree with the Zombicide folks on that, for a boardgame they were good. Sedition Wars stuff is simply fantastic though.
We can't actually tell that. All the photos on the page are of resin masters. We have to trust that the plastics will be good.
cincydooley wrote:Gotta disagree on Zombiecide. I got to get hands on with them at Adepticon and they were very nice and detailed.
I did too, and thought they were nice and detailed... for boardgame miniatures. Nowhere near the quality shown here.
I see what you did there. Yeah I'll agree with the Zombicide folks on that, for a boardgame they were good. Sedition Wars stuff is simply fantastic though.
We can't actually tell that. All the photos on the page are of resin masters. We have to trust that the plastics will be good.
McVey already stated it will be the same plastics Privateer Press uses.
If it is referencing Tank Girl then that's exactly what I meant when I said 'more obscure/oblique references'. I have no real opinion of Tank Girl (well... the movie was gak), but like the Dead Space guy I think it's a fun out-of-the-box homage/parody piece, which is great.
The real question now is 2 or 4 mechs... and more skittery head-crab thingies... or not...? Someone help!
H.B.M.C. wrote:If it is referencing Tank Girl then that's exactly what I meant when I said 'more obscure/oblique references'. I have no real opinion of Tank Girl (well... the movie was gak), but like the Dead Space guy I think it's a fun out-of-the-box homage/parody piece, which is great.
The real question now is 2 or 4 mechs... and more skittery head-crab thingies... or not...? Someone help!
2 is pretty good. 4 Could be overkill unless you have 2 sets of biohazard for enough strain they can fight
I love the THI Carapace suits, guessing march will be the expansion honestly.
I'm in the same boat HBMC. I think I want 2-5 of the suits and another crab and drone set. But then I'm getting closer to $350 which is getting harder to explain to my wife
Can anyone tell me how billing works? I'm sorry if I may have missed it before. Do they charge you instantly or do you manage it and apply the charge yourself or what? I only ask because I may be a tad short on my pledge on the 30th but will have money by the 2nd of July at the latest. If it isn't billed immediately, it means I can avoid selling some stuff of mine off fast to afford my KS pledge; if it is, well damn.
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IdentifyZero wrote:Can anyone tell me how billing works? I'm sorry if I may have missed it before. Do they charge you instantly or do you manage it and apply the charge yourself or what? I only ask because I may be a tad short on my pledge on the 30th but will have money by the 2nd of July at the latest. If it isn't billed immediately, it means I can avoid selling some stuff of mine off fast to afford my KS pledge; if it is, well damn.
Sorry, found it. You have 7 days if your card declines. Sweet, I think!
It goes through Amazon money, so there might be additional payment options through there. At the very least, I think you can charge to a credit card, if that's an option for you.
The other thing though is that CMoN has a pledge manager that will be up after the kickstarter ends, and it sounds like you'll be able to add things on a la carte through the pledge manager and not be charged for them until you order. From the comments on the latest update, it sounds like they're going to try to have that up for about a month after the KS ends.
Zefig wrote:It goes through Amazon money, so there might be additional payment options through there. At the very least, I think you can charge to a credit card, if that's an option for you.
The other thing though is that CMoN has a pledge manager that will be up after the kickstarter ends, and it sounds like you'll be able to add things on a la carte through the pledge manager and not be charged for them until you order. From the comments on the latest update, it sounds like they're going to try to have that up for about a month after the KS ends.
Thank you for the quick reply, glad to know I can grab some of the extras after without upping my pledge now. Phew!
No problem. Can't sleep, so getting far too excited about this instead There's some info on what'll be available through the pledge manager thingy in the comments of the latest update, and the tank girl description already specifies her as well. I'm personally not sure if it'll be everything though. I'd assume that it'll be similar to what they did with Zombicide.
This whole thing makes me really want to make a big scenic board. I might have to invest in some Hirst blocks along with all this D:
Zefig wrote:No problem. Can't sleep, so getting far too excited about this instead There's some info on what'll be available through the pledge manager thingy in the comments of the latest update, and the tank girl description already specifies her as well. I'm personally not sure if it'll be everything though. I'd assume that it'll be similar to what they did with Zombicide.
Looks good, glad I checked out the comments, thank you. I am also really excited!
Wow more than 4000 raised in the past 15min!
Scenic board would be good, especially with the terrain set
They should put something to encourage people to go to $250 or $300 or more!
Even if it is something small... do something to encourage those that are in to up their pledge. At a couple thousand people on board, that's the biggest gap this Kickstarter has when I look at it from McVey studio perspective.
Mantic had a crazy level of hit $500 of total pledge get a single limited edition model... and people DID IT JUST FOR THAT!
Not suggesting $500 (please $250 ) but something to really consider
Nice. I didn't expect to see those Thorn Heavy Industry Carapaces as part of this release. I'll pass on them however (considering I already have both the Maul and Mattock load outs). For those who don't know, the currently available suits are identical - you just get a different set of arms. For both sets you can have the visor open or closed.
I think it's a bit premature to cut off the expansion goals. At some point you say, "No more", but you want put that at the 11th hour. This has been very successful and I bet 1-2 more goals could have been popped in to keep everyone hopping.
Can someone repost the details of the CMON stratch manager or whatever it is?
Like many of us, my budget is blown, though there's more cool loot I want to add, and if they'll leave it open a couple of weeks, I'll be able to sort it all out.
I don't know what happen with Zombicide but for example Mantic posted a farewell message with the last target that went to the roof in just a few hours and they had two extra goals after that. For me the last two stretch goals are really unexciting. I understand they are free but getting them or not it's really mehhh. The optional extras on the other hand, I love the robots but at the moment the budget is overstretched and I can get them later in resin for a few more bucks so I will probably get them at a later stage.
From what I can work out, the CMon bid manager is a separate site that allows you to manage your order and buy extra sets or models for about 30 days after the closure of the Kickstarter project.
Almost 3/8's of the way to the new goal in 10 hours. Not bad at all. Now if I can only find out if there is a limit on the suits like some of the other promos....
Aye, I'd hate to think that what we've seen so far is it. If this keeps going, that 600k will be in the bag by tomorrow leaving 1-2 days left. Either they have something up their sleeves, they don't want to do anymore or perhaps they're potentially underestimating how high this could go?
I am actually wondering if they will do a stretch goal where you get all the strain version of the characters they have been adding. Saving everything to one last push could work I guess
zedmeister wrote:Aye, I'd hate to think that what we've seen so far is it. If this keeps going, that 600k will be in the bag by tomorrow leaving 1-2 days left. Either they have something up their sleeves, they don't want to do anymore or perhaps they're potentially underestimating how high this could go?
The $1,000,000 stretch goal - Everyone gets a clone of Mike McVey to paint all their models for them!
zedmeister wrote:Aye, I'd hate to think that what we've seen so far is it. If this keeps going, that 600k will be in the bag by tomorrow leaving 1-2 days left. Either they have something up their sleeves, they don't want to do anymore or perhaps they're potentially underestimating how high this could go?
The $1,000,000 stretch goal - Everyone gets a clone of Mike McVey to paint all their models for them!
I am in . Specially if it keeps painting my other models after finishing the biohazard set
yeah,
So far I've pledged enough for Bio Hazzard, P&P & terrain and 1 x $10 extra... I was going to go for ripley.
But I think I'll switch that to more drones since someone in the KS comments said hurley can produce one drone per turn with no limit on the number of drones.
So for those who pledged for Zombicide, how did CKPM work? Was it through the CMON site or email or what? I understand it'll let us buy the KS exclusives after funded, but what's the specifics?
Because I really want to add back in the Terrain set and a couple THI suits when I get more money in the middle of the month...
For Zombicide the normal Kickstarter confirmation stuff came first and later they emailed a link to their page that let you re-confirm your extras (and t-shirt size, etc). I think It had all the stuff you had already said you wanted checked off. If there was no extra money owing you basically clicked OK and were done. If you wanted more it took you to a pay page. I don't think you could take less than your pledge.
Vetric wrote:For Zombicide the normal Kickstarter confirmation stuff came first and later they emailed a link to their page that let you re-confirm your extras (and t-shirt size, etc). I think It had all the stuff you had already said you wanted checked off. If there was no extra money owing basically clicked OK and were done. If you wanted more it took you to a pay page. I don't think you could take less than your pledge.
The big question is will it let you choose all the optional extras even if you choose none at the beginning? Or it just has a small selection of the extras?
Vetric wrote:For Zombicide the normal Kickstarter confirmation stuff came first and later they emailed a link to their page that let you re-confirm your extras (and t-shirt size, etc). I think It had all the stuff you had already said you wanted checked off. If there was no extra money owing basically clicked OK and were done. If you wanted more it took you to a pay page. I don't think you could take less than your pledge.
The big question is will it let you choose all the optional extras even if you choose none at the beginning? Or it just has a small selection of the extras?
For Zombicide I'm pretty sure all the extras were there. (Though I don't think they ever posted a limit like Sedition Wars has)
Vetric wrote:For Zombicide the normal Kickstarter confirmation stuff came first and later they emailed a link to their page that let you re-confirm your extras (and t-shirt size, etc). I think It had all the stuff you had already said you wanted checked off. If there was no extra money owing you basically clicked OK and were done. If you wanted more it took you to a pay page. I don't think you could take less than your pledge.
Could you go back later and add more after clicking OK the first time? Or do you wait to do that until you feel like/are capable paying for the additional extras?
Vetric wrote:For Zombicide the normal Kickstarter confirmation stuff came first and later they emailed a link to their page that let you re-confirm your extras (and t-shirt size, etc). I think It had all the stuff you had already said you wanted checked off. If there was no extra money owing you basically clicked OK and were done. If you wanted more it took you to a pay page. I don't think you could take less than your pledge.
Could you go back later and add more after clicking OK the first time? Or do you wait to do that until you feel like/are capable paying for the additional extras?
To be honest, I was set on my original choices and didn't need to change anything. I'm not sure if you could go back again after using the CMON confirmation page. That said, there was a month between the Kickstarter closing and the KS confirmation, and then another month after that for the CMON confirmation. Also, they seemed pretty relaxed about helping people get what they want. So even after 2 months to think it over/dig up some extra money I think they'd let you add more as long as some final deadline hadn't passed.
Vetric wrote:For Zombicide the normal Kickstarter confirmation stuff came first and later they emailed a link to their page that let you re-confirm your extras (and t-shirt size, etc). I think It had all the stuff you had already said you wanted checked off. If there was no extra money owing you basically clicked OK and were done. If you wanted more it took you to a pay page. I don't think you could take less than your pledge.
Could you go back later and add more after clicking OK the first time? Or do you wait to do that until you feel like/are capable paying for the additional extras?
To be honest, I was set on my original choices and didn't need to change anything. I'm not sure if you could go back again after using the CMON confirmation page. That said, there was a month between the Kickstarter closing and the KS confirmation, and then another month after that for the CMON confirmation. Also, they seemed pretty relaxed about helping people get what they want. So even after 2 months to think it over/dig up some extra money I think they'd let you add more as long as some final deadline hadn't passed.
Do we know for certain if they will release downloadable cards for existing miniatures like the Power Suits? Because if they are, I can budget better and maybe wait and get the metal ones and play them with downloadable cards when the game ships, and spend that on the other characters.
Otherwise, I have to get at least one for the card it comes with, and wait until March to play with them.
Dose anyone know if your pledge amount is debited as soon as the kickstarter ends? or once you fill in the confirmation or once like zombiecide 2mths after the kickstarter ends?
Really dont want to think its gone out. Spend the money and then find its still due.
I believe it is as soon as it ends. I don't think it is something that you can change as a project manager. The only thing that seems to be possible is to add extra stuff that will be credited later on after the project ended. Although at the moment CMON seems not keen in giving the information if everything is going to be available. Which makes sense since otherwise people will not pledge and raise the targets.
Sorry guys! I'm in a bit of a mini road trip. We stopped for a bit so I' ll attemp to update using a smart phone but maybe just the title. Woo though on all the new stuff. I'm gonna skip out on the armor for now, waiting for the expansion. Of course assuming the expansion is gonna have a few of the armor things...
I'd hope so. She's cool an all, and I'm happy to see how she'll work with the suit, but it doesn't feel quite epic enough for a final stretch.
I have a feeling they are worrying about how much they are giving out, but a couple of higher stretch goals, could really drive this one into crazy town.
If they threw up a 680 and 750 right now, which where really awesome, I think they might break past Zombicide.
I've gone for the Biohazard, and the special edition figs, definately try to con someone into playing SW, but I'm more looking forward to using this stuff in an RPG setting, maybe DH or even Eclipse Phase......
vic wrote:I'm at biohazard. How do I buy extra stuff like the suits?
Increase your pledge to the total amount, and after the Kickstarter ends, they will send us an individual survey to specify what we want with our money.
Would you dare to do your own KS to expand your range of products?
Just a quick shot, you get 4 trays cut specifically for Sedition Wars, one extra pluck tray, and a few spacers/toppers. We'll get the dimensions of the pockets etc shortly.
Just got a message from CMON - no upper limit on the number of carapace suits you can buy, unlike the other optional purchases. Someone was asking earlier, so I thought I'd post. I think I've found some ogryns!
Scarper wrote:Just got a message from CMON - no upper limit on the number of carapace suits you can buy, unlike the other optional purchases. Someone was asking earlier, so I thought I'd post. I think I've found some ogryns!
Thanks for the heads up! There goes another $30 rounding it out to a full squad of 5... that saves me having to buy two metal ones as well.
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whalemusic360 wrote:Ugh, the foam has a pluck tray. Anyone want to trade for a standard tray?
I was thinking the same. Not ever so keen on pluck foam as it never quite fits what you wanted in there. Still.. storage is storage I guess. I'm sure I can find something that I can fit in there.
I was thinking the same. Not ever so keen on pluck foam as it never quite fits what you wanted in there. Still.. storage is storage I guess. I'm sure I can find something that I can fit in there.
I'd be all over that one... Easily in my top 5 favorite video game characters.
Seconded (thirded?)
On the bag, does anyone know enough about BattleFoam products to know if that price is competitive?
I've been meaning to get a BF bag for some time, so this is obviously interesting, but I've no real idea what this is comparable to in their product line.
I'd be all over that one... Easily in my top 5 favorite video game characters.
Seconded (thirded?)
On the bag, does anyone know enough about BattleFoam products to know if that price is competitive?
I've been meaning to get a BF bag for some time, so this is obviously interesting, but I've no real idea what this is comparable to in their product line.
I'd be all over that one... Easily in my top 5 favorite video game characters.
Seconded (thirded?)
On the bag, does anyone know enough about BattleFoam products to know if that price is competitive?
I've been meaning to get a BF bag for some time, so this is obviously interesting, but I've no real idea what this is comparable to in their product line.
Hmmm... on the one hand that's a nice bag, and it actually does save, as the cheapest shipping from BF for me lists at about $16 or so. On the other, that's not nearly so inspiring as the many other deals, and it's a honking big chunk of change.
Its going to hit $600K before midnight tonight and there will still be 60+ hours to go.
They have to do something more... probably a few more somethings...
The BF bags really are the best on the market and IMO their foam is much better than Sabol foam. The bags are sturdy and are more like luggage than other bags that are more like cooler or lunch sack material.
While a bit pricey, they're pretty much on par with what you'd pay from another company for something comparable, only higher quality.
Hmmm... on the one hand that's a nice bag, and it actually does save, as the cheapest shipping from BF for me lists at about $16 or so. On the other, that's not nearly so inspiring as the many other deals, and it's a honking big chunk of change.
Decisions, decisions...
US purchasers get free shipping on the bag if bought through the Kickstarter.
I've literally doubled my investment since I joined this KS.
I may just ahve to delete my account afterwards to prevent more spending!
Mine has tripled..... I can run a Sedition Wars tournament with all the stuff I'm getting!
I started off as Biohazard. Now I'm up to almost $500... jesus christ. I hope I don't regret this! I will definitely be preparing to paint all these guys!
That's my problem as well. Wel, the problem part is that I can't afford $500 this pay. They better release some info on that pledge manager quicksmart.
scipio.au wrote:That's my problem as well. Wel, the problem part is that I can't afford $500 this pay. They better release some info on that pledge manager quicksmart.
You technically have 7 days. Better to pledge the $$$ to the kickstarter for the purpose of goals then the pledge manager after I think.
Well for those wondering how the CKPM worked for Zombiecide, when the kickstarter closed, Amazon charged the amount pledged. Afterwords they sent out a link & password for their web based tracker (rather than the usual kickstarter survey) It reflected the base level you plegded and allowed you to assign the "leftover" cash on extras as appropriate (and update your address).
Now the Zombiecide one did include an option to go over your pledged amount and Paypal the difference to them, including adding in extra Abomination sets (though not core) at the $100 point (no discounts like in the actual pledge) keep in mind they also announced this BEFORE the close of zombiecide, and haven't mentioned this YET that i have seen for SW.
While it's certainly possible they're playing coy just to increase pledged sales, it could also be a case that Kickstarter themselves whined about losing their cut of the extended sales, and pointed to some clause of the TOS that it violates.
So while I'm hoping that I can add extras later (as T5 closes Saturday too, and my next check is the good one i can spare some cash on), in which case i'll add some THIs, Terrain, Lights out, and maybe extra opticamos and maybe another Biohazard and a bag, as it is i pledged $200 to cover my biohazard and 2x Ridleys, Hexens and Calamaities, with one Banks & Ramirez, and i might try to squeeze an extra $30 out to guarantee opticamo just to ensure i get the limited versions i want
H.B.M.C. wrote:'Bout time for a $650k stretch goal. I doubt we'll make $700k.
If the stretch goals are there, HBMC, I think we could - look at the spike Mantic had in the last couple of days, for instane, which I suspect was driven by all the stretches they were adding at the end.
I have to say I think this latest 'homage model' was a bit of a stumble, I think a better known character would have done even better for the. The day started off incredible but seems to have slowed down a touch now.
C'mon Studio McVey finish strong bust out something breathtaking!
Of course it slowed down. It was night time in the Northern Hemisphere! It still made more money yesterday than any other day so far during the whole Kickstarter, and we're already at over $7k for the next day!
Only 5 grand 'til we hit $600k and there's 61 hours left. It's not slowing down.
) on his website put me off. For $15 apiece... hmmmmmmm....
