I also dislike the "pluck-it" trays. Had way too many problems with them.
And looks like we'll see if McVey is bluffing about the 600k since we're less than 5k from hitting it with 61 hrs to go. It would be down right silly for them to turn off the money spiggot now that it's proven to sustained.
Moopy wrote:I also dislike the "pluck-it" trays. Had way too many problems with them.
And looks like we'll see if McVey is bluffing about the 600k since we're less than 2k from hitting it with 61 hrs to go. It would be down right silly for them to turn off the money spiggot now that it's proven to sustained.
H.B.M.C. wrote:And I think it's a testament to Sedition Wars for making it this high without a plug on Penny Arcade.
I think its a combination of the Pedigree of the creators (Mike McVey! Rob Baxter!), a desire for a pure SciFi game of some sort, outstanding miniatures and some original concepts.
At the moment, there is a lack of a true SciFi wargame, the only exceptions being 40k, Warpath and infinity. However 40k and Warpath have their problems or differences: 40K and Warpath need large amounts of miniatures, 40k is expensive in the extreme, both are similar with their fantasy archetypes and I suspect a lot of long term 40k players are suffering from burnout. Infinity has the most to offer currently but has that whole Anime thing going on. Sedition Wars offers something different and promises a lot.
For me, Battle for Alabaster feels very System Shock 2 to me and that can only be a good thing. I can only hope that we'll see a Shodan homage (hint hint!)
ThaneCawdor wrote:Well for those wondering how the CKPM worked for Zombiecide, when the kickstarter closed, Amazon charged the amount pledged. Afterwords they sent out a link & password for their web based tracker (rather than the usual kickstarter survey) It reflected the base level you plegded and allowed you to assign the "leftover" cash on extras as appropriate (and update your address).
Now the Zombiecide one did include an option to go over your pledged amount and Paypal the difference to them, including adding in extra Abomination sets (though not core) at the $100 point (no discounts like in the actual pledge) keep in mind they also announced this BEFORE the close of zombiecide, and haven't mentioned this YET that i have seen for SW.
While it's certainly possible they're playing coy just to increase pledged sales, it could also be a case that Kickstarter themselves whined about losing their cut of the extended sales, and pointed to some clause of the TOS that it violates.
So while I'm hoping that I can add extras later (as T5 closes Saturday too, and my next check is the good one i can spare some cash on), in which case i'll add some THIs, Terrain, Lights out, and maybe extra opticamos and maybe another Biohazard and a bag, as it is i pledged $200 to cover my biohazard and 2x Ridleys, Hexens and Calamaities, with one Banks & Ramirez, and i might try to squeeze an extra $30 out to guarantee opticamo just to ensure i get the limited versions i want
Well, in the end it'll be the difference between them getting $300-odd from me or $500ish. The problem with tacking on so many extras as the kickstarter goes on is many of us simply run out of disposable cash at the end since Amazon charges you instantly. (And I'm not eating any "transaction declined" fees, either). If we can't add extras at the end, I'll be dropping the 2 sets of terrain, the Lights Out figures, and 5x Carapaces. I'll also be examining the extra $10 figures really carefully rather than going in blazing. So basically, quite a drop in what I spend.
Moopy wrote:SS2 is still one of my top 5 favorite games.
Me too. It sits there next to the Thief games. I'm really hoping that the BfA involves a mission or two dealing with the stations AI who, due to the strain virus, is slightly unhinged and sociopathic!
Would you dare to do your own KS to expand your range of products?
Sure would, the hard bit is finding good sculptors, casters, web savvys and artists to help with the work. Its a plan in progress
We'll have to keep an eye on you, then
zedmeister wrote:
At the moment, there is a lack of a true SciFi wargame, the only exceptions being 40k and Warpath. However, they have their problems: Both need large amounts of miniatures, 40k is expensive in the extreme, both are similar with their fantasy archetypes and I suspect a lot of long term 40k players are suffering from burnout. Sedition Wars offers something different and promises a lot.
For me, Battle for Alabaster feels very System Shock 2 to me and that can only be a good thing. I can only hope that we'll see a Shodan homage (hint hint!)
OMG! Infinity!!!
My pledge has been multiplied almost by 3 since the KS begun. Daaamn...
Project Update #52: Iron Lily arrives! Ashoka disapproves....
Posted by CoolMiniOrNot
Every Biohazard set gets Iron Lily! She may be a little squishy without her THI carapace though... (hint hint).
Vanguard forward operators often find themselves adapting to "close encounters." Akosha has decided to switch up to full kick-murder wetwork gear! Ready to get surgical on some Strain mutant freaks? She is.
Every Biohazard set gets the battle damaged version of this deadly cyborg if we hit this stretch! Ships March 2013, unpainted and unassembled.
Ah ha, good looking out. Seems a bit of an odd last leg stretch as well. There were about a hundred potential awesome references they could have gone with.
whalemusic360 wrote:Ah ha, good looking out. Seems a bit of an odd last leg stretch as well. There were about a hundred potential awesome references they could have gone with.
Well, there has been a bit of grumbling about the constant use of pop-culture references, so this may represent a happy medium. Personally, if the figure matches the concept art, I'd be very happy (looks great!), and it's news to me (had no idea that that character was a cyborg).
Of course, if one was inclined to look at things in the lens of pop culture, I suppose that she could be a reference to Cameron. Which would mean Ms. Summer Glau has 2 different versions of herself in the set already...
H.B.M.C. wrote:Today is now the biggest day in Sedition Wars' Kickstarter, eclipsing the 26th by $1000 and the day still isn't over yet.
[EDIT]: Less than $10k 'til $600k goal reached.
'Bout time for a $650k stretch goal. I doubt we'll make $700k.
I think at this point he needs to release a coupe more $10 characters. With almost 3,000 backers each one would probably net $15,000+. I feel like this kickstarter has gone a little too quietly into the last few days.
MajorTom11 wrote:I have to say I think this latest 'homage model' was a bit of a stumble, I think a better known character would have done even better for the. The day started off incredible but seems to have slowed down a touch now.
C'mon Studio McVey finish strong bust out something breathtaking!
It is interesting I wonder about this. For instance I am getting all of the homage miniatures but I really don't care about the homage part except for the Serenity crew and Niven Banks. It would be interesting to poll and see how many people bought them just because they looked cool as compared to wanting them more for the homage.
Pacific wrote:Forgive my ignorance, but what is she a reference of?
Thats either Kerrigan, or the Terminator from the Sarah Conner Chronicals.
( Course it could always be The Major, from Ghost In The Shell. )
Oooh, did not think of that one, good (possible) catch!
Hard to tell though, as both Cameron and the Major are pretty similar in physical lay-out. That is, mech endoskeleton with a babe overlay. Of course, the whole thing may really just be an in-universe expansion of a character, and we may be stretching to see a connection.
A cyborg - the concept art would suggest the augmentation extends further than I would otherwise have assumed, but she's described as having a modified body, not something starting from scratch.
Grot 6 wrote:If I bought me one of those not Predators from Heresy, would it fit in this games range?
There should be some leeway - a Predator's supposed to be big.
AlexHolker wrote:A cyborg - the concept art would suggest the augmentation extends further than I would otherwise have assumed, but she's described as having a modified body, not something starting from scratch.
You missed the set up. You were meant to say "I think she prefers the term 'artificial person'."
If you compare the figures between SW and Zombicide campaign it seems SW is doing quite badly for the last few days of the campaign. Zombicide went even crazier with $22,000 as the best day to more than $100,00 on the last days. Sedition wars on the other hand seems to be rising more slowly but on the other hand it seems to have been attracting a lot more attention since the beginning anyway.
I am still keeping my fingers crossed to get the queen of blades but I don't think it will be happening this time
H.B.M.C. wrote:And the Heresy not-Predators are big models.
AlexHolker wrote:A cyborg - the concept art would suggest the augmentation extends further than I would otherwise have assumed, but she's described as having a modified body, not something starting from scratch.
You missed the set up. You were meant to say "I think she prefers the term 'artificial person'."
I got the ref. Doesn't hurt that they've been showing that movie on various channels here over and over for past couple weeks(wonder why).
Help ease my mind. So, anyone whose bought any miniature from Studio McVey can attest to the quality and detail of the finished products. What worries me about this KS is the fact that miniatures are going to be plastic.
I read a post on this thread a couple of pages back where someone was trying to get a "heads up" as to what type of plastic they could expect to find in the finished product, but this question has strated to really play on my mind.
Obviously Studio McVey could confirm or deny this point, but my guess is that all the miniatures we've seen so far are either from the resin masters or metal miniatures they currently produce, but are we spending like crazy based on an assumption that the SW plastics will be comparible (material / detail wise) to GW plastics?
We're seeing a lot of concept sketches coming out as stretch goals, but nothing concerning what the final miniature will look like.
Are we gonna open these boxes and be seriously disappointed? I hope not, but how big is this risk?
I don't know PP plastics but they are different from the GW ones. Presumably they hold detail as good if not better than GW ones but are harder.
Although this is just what I have read about from a source I don't seem to be able to find anymore.
Obviously Studio McVey could confirm or deny this point, but my guess is that all the miniatures we've seen so far are either from the resin masters or metal miniatures they currently produce, but are we spending like crazy based on an assumption that the SW plastics will be comparible (material / detail wise) to GW plastics?
We're seeing a lot of concept sketches coming out as stretch goals, but nothing concerning what the final miniature will look like.
Are we gonna open these boxes and be seriously disappointed? I hope not, but how big is this risk?
Mike has been involved in miniatures for a really long time.
The stuff he used to do, years ago, for GW was exceptional. Me and probably 10,000 other kids probably gasped in awe about the results he could get from the paintbrush.
The models he has done from his own range are of exceptional quality. In sculpt detail, concept and quality, I would put them right up there with the very best the industry has to offer.
I would be very, very surprised if these models are sub-par or of poor quality. Personally, I think he has earned at least a little bit of 'trust' from the fan community from his work over the past years.
AlexHolker wrote:A cyborg - the concept art would suggest the augmentation extends further than I would otherwise have assumed, but she's described as having a modified body, not something starting from scratch.
You missed the set up. You were meant to say "I think she prefers the term 'artificial person'."
If it makes you feel any better, that was my first instinct.
Alpharius wrote:I'm trying to figure out how many of the Battle Suits I want.
I initially think Pre-Heresy Terminators or some such, so ... 5?
No way!
How are these handled 'in game'?
Any idea of how many I'll 'need' (Ha!) vs. 'want' (uh oh!)?
Thanks!
Honestly, I see them as the equivalent of the hovertank: a way to deal with Strain Type 4. So 2-3 would probably do ya for the game itself.
I could of course be wrong, not having actually seen their rules for the game. I'll most likely grab 3 myself from the CKPM, but I also plan on using the Sedition Wars stuff for Tomorrow's War and I imagine power suits like that in groups of three(blame AT-43 and Dust mostly).
Obviously Studio McVey could confirm or deny this point, but my guess is that all the miniatures we've seen so far are either from the resin masters or metal miniatures they currently produce, but are we spending like crazy based on an assumption that the SW plastics will be comparible (material / detail wise) to GW plastics?
We're seeing a lot of concept sketches coming out as stretch goals, but nothing concerning what the final miniature will look like.
Are we gonna open these boxes and be seriously disappointed? I hope not, but how big is this risk?
Mike has been involved in miniatures for a really long time.
The stuff he used to do, years ago, for GW was exceptional. Me and probably 10,000 other kids probably gasped in awe about the results he could get from the paintbrush.
The models he has done from his own range are of exceptional quality. In sculpt detail, concept and quality, I would put them right up there with the very best the industry has to offer.
I would be very, very surprised if these models are sub-par or of poor quality. Personally, I think he has earned at least a little bit of 'trust' from the fan community from his work over the past years.
I’m not suggesting Studio McVey are “misleading” people, they are showing you a concept sketch of a miniature they will create, but there’s no guarantee that figure will turn out 100% in line with the concept.
With 54 hours to go (at the time of this post) it’s too late to raise the question now, I think I would have been less nervous if I’d seen a plastic sample miniature up close and in detail. My nightmare scenario is opening the box and being greeted by an army of Mantic Elves.....you know what I mean
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:I went for a duo myself. Didn't want to go nuts, but one seemed a little lonely, especially with such a great model.
But. But you need a third! Two regs and one boss.
I have high hopes for the quality of these models although it really would be nice to have some decent shots of every model that comes in the box set. Squinting at those tiny pics kills the eyes!
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:I went for a duo myself. Didn't want to go nuts, but one seemed a little lonely, especially with such a great model.
But. But you need a third! Two regs and one boss.
I have high hopes for the quality of these models although it really would be nice to have some decent shots of every model that comes in the box set. Squinting at those tiny pics kills the eyes!
Three is the magic number for me, too.
As far as quality goes, I'm not too worried. The game sculpts they have shown look ace as are the other Studio McVey offerings. I think a huge part of he success of this Kickstarter comes from what they've done and shown people they can do in the past. Mike's and his studio's reputation hinges on putting out a quality product ... so does CMON ... so I don't expect a "bait-n-switch" at all.
I have high hopes for the quality of these models although it really would be nice to have some decent shots of every model that comes in the box set. Squinting at those tiny pics kills the eyes!
Theres logic in that arguement, but.. ...dang it, your trying to make me spend more monies!!
Delephont wrote:
With 54 hours to go (at the time of this post) it’s too late to raise the question now, I think I would have been less nervous if I’d seen a plastic sample miniature up close and in detail. My nightmare scenario is opening the box and being greeted by an army of Mantic Elves.....you know what I mean
Aren't the GitD and opticamo picture of actual casts?
If the regular ones are that good, we have nothing to worry about.
Obviously Studio McVey could confirm or deny this point, but my guess is that all the miniatures we've seen so far are either from the resin masters or metal miniatures they currently produce, but are we spending like crazy based on an assumption that the SW plastics will be comparible (material / detail wise) to GW plastics?
We're seeing a lot of concept sketches coming out as stretch goals, but nothing concerning what the final miniature will look like.
Are we gonna open these boxes and be seriously disappointed? I hope not, but how big is this risk?
Mike has been involved in miniatures for a really long time.
The stuff he used to do, years ago, for GW was exceptional. Me and probably 10,000 other kids probably gasped in awe about the results he could get from the paintbrush.
The models he has done from his own range are of exceptional quality. In sculpt detail, concept and quality, I would put them right up there with the very best the industry has to offer.
I would be very, very surprised if these models are sub-par or of poor quality. Personally, I think he has earned at least a little bit of 'trust' from the fan community from his work over the past years.
I’m not suggesting Studio McVey are “misleading” people, they are showing you a concept sketch of a miniature they will create, but there’s no guarantee that figure will turn out 100% in line with the concept.
With 54 hours to go (at the time of this post) it’s too late to raise the question now, I think I would have been less nervous if I’d seen a plastic sample miniature up close and in detail. My nightmare scenario is opening the box and being greeted by an army of Mantic Elves.....you know what I mean
Rest assured, the Sedition Wars products are quality. Had you bothered to do some research ahead of time, you would have noticed that many figures were already produced and for sale via his website and are considered among the highest quality miniatures you can buy.
The sculpts that come in Sedition Wars for most of the troopers are supposed to be vast improvements over the old Vanguard Troopers. Had you bothered to look at them, you would realize, a vast improvement means putting better quality on top of work that was already superior.
I think this is a rather silly point you have brought up at the very last minute, simply because you don't have anything to gripe or complain about in this situation. There is still time to go pull your pledge if you are nervous, then we can all be laughing in your face come November when we have our amazing sets of Sedition Wars and you're playing with yourself.
My Plan is to compliment the tiles with the 3d, or spacehulk tiles.
Then, start the factions out in different areas of the station, and put a few things in such as crates, the suits, ( Some with people in them, some without,) some civilian types from other ranges... ( Hasslefree), add in the Hrud from Heresy, and away we go. Then people can jump in and play who they want to. Looking for a 4X8 board, by the way. All said and done, the station will as well more then likely be several levels...( 7 maybe.LOL)
Several scenarios come to mind.
1. Breakout.
2. Beachhead.
3. Capture the Suits/ Spawnpoints
4. Rescue
5. Fighting to the escape pods
6. Last stand
7. Treasure Hunt. ( full blown battle going on and the ship crew show up to kidnap a special someone, or item, or both.
8. Escape
9. COuntdown to Destruction
10. Oblivion.
We've seen them all before in one place or another, but the basics of the scenarios are putting all of those characters into different factions and fighting for goals. Add in your other figures, and the space hulk feel. ( along with a 2 minute timer, or dark rules,) and its sounding and going to be a pretty cool time of it.
Wondering what the tabletop games going to look like. I saw some "Terrorists" in the metal range. and am highly interested in those, as well. Can never have too many space pirates/ terrorist plots.
Also wondering if these figures are going to be sold later on in sets, or different tilegames. and if they will be interchangeable.
IdentifyZero wrote:[qu
Then we can all be laughing in your face come November when we have our amazing sets of Sedition Wars and you're playing with yourself.
Woah woah woah...
Can we please have less fething criticism of playing with yourself?
Playing with yourself is easily as enjoyable a hobby as painting miniatures, and If it wasn't for the chafing I would gladly spend far more time engrossed in the hobby.
IdentifyZero wrote:[qu
Then we can all be laughing in your face come November when we have our amazing sets of Sedition Wars and you're playing with yourself.
Woah woah woah...
Can we please have less fething criticism of playing with yourself?
Playing with yourself is easily as enjoyable a hobby as painting miniatures, and If it wasn't for the chafing I would gladly spend far more time engrossed in the hobby.
It was meant as a joke to peer pressure him into keeping his Sedition Wars.
IdentifyZero wrote:[qu
Then we can all be laughing in your face come November when we have our amazing sets of Sedition Wars and you're playing with yourself.
Woah woah woah...
Can we please have less fething criticism of playing with yourself?
Playing with yourself is easily as enjoyable a hobby as painting miniatures, and If it wasn't for the chafing I would gladly spend far more time engrossed in the hobby.
It was meant as a joke to peer pressure him into keeping his Sedition Wars.
Playing with yourself is fun xD
Duh, thanks to the solo campaign we'll never have to play with anyone else again!
They had the metals, some of the resin masters, and I believe one of the plastics at Origins in Columbus about a month ago. The models are quite wonderful.
I agree that Mr. McVey has probably earned some leeway here; if you own any of his limited resin pieces, you already know that he sculpts are, quite frankly, one of the top two or three lines in the boutique miniatures industry (I can't decide if they're better or worse than Kingdom Death and Kings of War is too new to determine).
Regardless, I have the utmost faith that both CMoN and McVey Studios are commited to producing a high quality product. If you read the Wired articled, Chern An notes that the concepts CMoN has submitted so far have been 90% done BEFORE Kickstarter, and Kickstarter is a way to make them better. I think with the amount of funding we've pushed so far with this KS, we're not going to get better, but rather Great.
IdentifyZero wrote:
Rest assured, the Sedition Wars products are quality. Had you bothered to do some research ahead of time, you would have noticed that many figures were already produced and for sale via his website and are considered among the highest quality miniatures you can buy.
The sculpts that come in Sedition Wars for most of the troopers are supposed to be vast improvements over the old Vanguard Troopers. Had you bothered to look at them, you would realize, a vast improvement means putting better quality on top of work that was already superior.
I know full well that Delephont knows the quality of the miniatures as he's mentioned earlier in the thread that he used to own a load of the models (they now sit in my office). He's just making a comment that for all of the extra figures, we're shelling out for sketches and have no idea if the final models will be in the same pose, or have the same level of detail. The original Mantic sketches for the elves were bulkier than the final, spindly models that were released.
I don't see this being a problem with SW models, but I understand where he's coming from, especially with some of the strain-ified characters
Maybe I missed it but... all these new figs included.. a lot say they'll be delivered in march .. but, on the pledge area it says november.. does all the new figures push the whole release date back, or are they gonna send the game in November, and then the extra stuff in March?
Necros wrote:Maybe I missed it but... all these new figs included.. a lot say they'll be delivered in march .. but, on the pledge area it says november.. does all the new figures push the whole release date back, or are they gonna send the game in November, and then the extra stuff in March?
AS far as I'm aware, you'll get the game and anything basic in November, then a second package with the additional stuff in March.
Erasoketa wrote:But that battlefoam tray... is it for the box? It seems square, and ready to hold the content of the standard game.
Well spotted, I missed that. It looks like it will fit in the box; but I'd guess that means there's only enough spaces in it for the miniatures in the actual box, not all those extras we're getting. Still, pretty useful.
I did not pledge the $175 I wanted to on the Kings of War as I'm really skint this month, I'm now up to £315 on SW...what happened The missus will kill me when she finds out!
Well, with so many of the extras being included in the price of the Biohazard level that will arrive later, I figured that if I am going to be getting models 9 months from now I may as well pull the trigger on the terrain as well.
I hate justifying it that way, because that means the terrorists have won.
The suits are a bit harder to justify, but just barely as they are so slogging sweet.
Maybe just one... it wont hurt too badly... at least that's the rationale I keep telling She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed...
It her fault really. She started it by demanding that I include those Not-Serenity figs. Yeah... that's the ticket...
Not sure. Though if some good ideas come up I may pick up a Rev. Shephard and Haylee, Ship's Mechanic figure from Hasslefree to go with them. Any "hot chick" figure, possibly in a swashbuckler's outfit would work for Inara.
Commander Cain wrote:@Dysartes What is wrong with battlefoam? From what I have heard they are one of the best!
Agreed... I bought some this year, and it is good quality stuff. Unless you just don't like Romeo or something? No insult there, some don't. After having met him though I can also say he is a nice guy and very determined to deliver quality product!
Commander Cain wrote:@Dysartes What is wrong with battlefoam? From what I have heard they are one of the best!
Agreed... I bought some this year, and it is good quality stuff. Unless you just don't like Romeo or something? No insult there, some don't. After having met him though I can also say he is a nice guy and very determined to deliver quality product!
Yep. Romeo's a good guy, despite occasionally coming across as abrasive or crass on the internet. I'd be pretty crass, too, if I got that much hate on the internet, deigned to respond to it, and was as passionate a person as Romeo appears to be(someone passionate about the product they make?! Say it ain't so!). Responding to posts on places like Dakka is a two-edged sword: you appear to be slumming it with your customers, but you're always a representative of your company, so the occasional unprofessional post when you're in a bad mood can reflect ill on the company.
That said, while I disagreed with the way he first showed up at Dakka, I've been able to separate Romeo and his company as separate entities. Battle Foam's products are amazing and I can't go back to buying anyone else's because they really are the best out there in my opinion(and I've tried and owned pretty much every one out there currently). They're pricy, but the quality is more than worth it. I'm excited, because I've heard that they now make actual gun cases(and Airsoft marker cases, too) and I want to try them.
Commander Cain wrote:@Dysartes What is wrong with battlefoam? From what I have heard they are one of the best!
Agreed... I bought some this year, and it is good quality stuff. Unless you just don't like Romeo or something? No insult there, some don't. After having met him though I can also say he is a nice guy and very determined to deliver quality product!
Indeed - what I've observed of Romeo rubs me up the wrong way.
Also, as a Brit, I'd prefer to support a British company, such as KR.
I had a very strong dislike for Romeo when Battlefoam first hit the gaming scene, he was everywhere pushing Battlefoam as this amazing and different thing that was totally better than everything else out there, and oh hey did he mention Battlefoam was out and they had this new tray and it's from Battlefoam and it's awesome because it's Battlefoam and Battlefoam rocks? Okay he did? Yeah.
It just gave me that terrible used-car salesman vibe that really bothers me. However, mostly due to his appearances on gaming podcasts where he's been talking about gaming and not his products, I've come to get behind him quite a bit. It was really nice to hear him on D6 Generation a few episodes ago just talking about his experiences in the hobby and talking about what he was into and why he wasn't into other systems. He wasn't pushing his crap, just talking about gaming so he finally sounded like an avid gamer and not a slimy salesman. I think it was the last Guts & Gears he was on where he was promoting a mostly warmachine gaming convention he's helping set up in Arizona. He was pushing that one pretty hard, but I can forgive that a lot more for a convention than a product and he really came off as wanting to make something the local gaming community could really enjoy since there's not a whole lot out there.
Anyways, so much for all the naysayers saying SW would be lucky to hit 500k. Looks like it's gonna beat out Zombiecide at this point, less than 150k in 2 days should be totally doable. Good, space stations and assault rifles and high tech armor are WAY cooler than zombie apocalypse! It still could use some aliens though, aliens make everything better.
So, it's confirmed that the boards are way too big to fit in the bag (they are reportedly 14" square).
That's really quite unfortunate. I'm honestly not sure I can justify dropping $80 for a bag that won't actually be adequate to storing what it's intended to store. Also, since appearently this won't be in any way exclusive to the KS, there doesn't really seem to be a reason to drop the money right now.
The stopgap has been noted before, a single foam tray that will hold the contents of the base box... which is, unfortunatly, nowhere near adequate for most backers (who are at Biohazard level).
$35 plus $15 international shipping. Again these will be available after the Kickstarter. So take your time painting, once you need them they'll still be around.
Automatically Appended Next Post: By the way, in case it hadn't been noted before, just going for Biohazard, you're talking about 97 models as I count them. So $1.03 or so a model, heh!
yeah and no way im gona drop $35 on some foam ...
for about $15 you can buy 3-4sqm of that foam and some contact adhessive and make 20x what you get there ..
I'll join in with the Battlefoam dissenters. It seems questionable for a great company/group like Studio McVey to join in with the polarizing Battlefoam.
On the bright side, the offering of some random foam for $35 will only make this Kickstarter total go even higher. To each, their own.
Absolutionis wrote:I'll join in with the Battlefoam dissenters. It seems questionable for a great company/group like Studio McVey to join in with the polarizing Battlefoam.
Why is it questionable? CMON already seems to have a license with them, and Battle Foam tends to be the only one that actually licenses with companies.
I really don't see it as questionable. I like the idea that I have something to put figures in right away. Feels well thought out. NOW, if I can actually afford them... well... that's another thing. ^____________^
H.B.M.C. wrote:14" square? You say that like it's a bad thing.
Oh, I don't think it's bad... I'm not sure it's good. I honestly have no opinion on maximal tile size, but it does mean that they are going to be nearly impossible to fit into a any of the BF bags.
I don't harbor any ill will towards BF (or Romeo), I'm just a bit unenthusiastic about the official (branded and everything!) bag not being able to transport the game! That is, it's fundamentally unsuited for it's intended purpose.
Irritating. On the plus side, it let's me drop my pledge by quite a bit.
Admittedly sculpting Kaylee's face to capture her character is not easy, but the cheekbones, jaw, mouth and eyebrows are all asymmetrical which really messes up her face. A bit heavy on the eye makeup as well...
And I'm in! $170 poorer. Though passed on the not-Aliens girls.
Now hopefully my friends will be willing to play it
*edit* Will just add, don't have any ill will towards Battlefoam. Yes Romeo is a tool, but he puts out a great product and all my friends who bought stuff from him have no complaints. Their bags held up far better than my Army Transport bag. I don't hold it against Studio McVey for getting an "official" Battlefoam bag. Romeo approaches every miniature company about getting a special battlefoam bag or tray.
H.B.M.C. wrote:Forgive me if this sounds stupid... but might it be an idea to transport the game in the box it came in?
Shhhh HBMC.
You're going to start a board game carrying case revolution!
The box is 14"x14", how high do you think it has to be to transport the 97 minis that come at Biohazard pledge level?
Or, perhaps, you are of the impression the box is manufactured on Gallifrey.
All kidding aside, you do realize it's a non-sequiter to suggest piling the minis in their box when the express problem is the bag sold to carry the game cannot carry the game, right?
I'd happily pay for a bag to carry the game. It just.. you know, needs to be able to carry the game.
I imagine that the box will be big enough to fit the actual game + contents, since it's a retail product. The biohazard, etc, extras would come in their own little packaging separately.
I'm personally indifferent to the bag and battlefoam and all of that, but bitching that it won't fit in all the 1-off biohazard freebies and extras outside of the actual core boxed product just seems a little silly and OTT..
RiTides wrote:But it's just the boards that don't fit, right? All the minis do?
Yup. Well, sorta, I mean, when you say "all the minis", what do you mean? A Biohazard level pledge gets you 97 minis. That should easily fit (presuming it's cut to accommodate the big guys). The terrain is another 70 pieces, will they fit? I dunno. I was totaling it up, and I'm looking at just under 200 minis/pieces.
So, the game itself (not Biohazard level) will fit in the $35 piece of foam. Anything more then that will need something separate.
Honestly, if there were a bit more bargain to the bag I probably would just choke down the irritation, but it's basically full price (only reduced by the shipping costs).
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scipio.au wrote:I imagine that the box will be big enough to fit the actual game + contents, since it's a retail product. The biohazard, etc, extras would come in their own little packaging separately.
I'm personally indifferent to the bag and battlefoam and all of that, but bitching that it won't fit in all the 1-off biohazard freebies and extras outside of the actual core boxed product just seems a little silly and OTT..
Cutting insight... the problem isn't it won't fit the "1-off biohazard freebies and extras outside of the actual core boxed product", but that it won't fit a single copy of the retail base game (because of the tiles).
It seems the bag is big enough to carry the models one would get to expect when purchasing the game. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. The fact that it doesn't transport extras from a 1-time-only Kickstarter campaign seems less important.
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Buzzsaw wrote:Cutting insight... the problem isn't it won't fit the "1-off biohazard freebies and extras outside of the actual core boxed product", but that it won't fit a single copy of the retail base game (because of the tiles).
And why should or would it? Isn't it a bag to protect the minis, and not to carry the game? That's the way I see it.
If the bag's stated purpose is to carry/protect the miniatures from the standard retail game, then it suceeds in doing exactly that. You cannot criticise an orange for not being an apple, and if the bag was never intended to carry everything, and was only intended to carry the miniatures, then I can't see what you're getting worked up about.
H.B.M.C. wrote:It seems the bag is big enough to carry the models one would get to expect when purchasing the game. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. The fact that it doesn't transport extras from a 1-time-only Kickstarter campaign seems less important.
....?
Seriously guys, the problem isn't the minis, it's the trays don't fit.
I know you know this, since you already made a remark about "14" square? You say that like it's a bad thing."
If you only want to transport the base game, the $35 foam tray is perfectly adequate.
Again, bringing into question the point of the bag... which was the discussion.
H.B.M.C. wrote:And why should or would it? Isn't it a bag to protect the minis, and not to carry the game? That's the way I see it.
If the bag's stated purpose is to carry/protect the miniatures from the standard retail game, then it suceeds in doing exactly that. You cannot criticise an orange for not being an apple, and if the bag was never intended to carry everything, and was only intended to carry the miniatures, then I can't see what you're getting worked up about.
Sorry, just to be clear, you don't see why the "Sedition Wars BattleFoam Bag" being unable to carry the Sedition Wars game is a problem? Just to check.
Also, since it seems you'd like to use a technical argument, let's see what the official purpose of the bag is...
The fiendish protective geniuses at Battlefoam have put together a nice little kit to carry around all your Biohazard contents and then some. Great if you intend to paint the game! This bag will be available for sale later, but ships free in the USA if you get it from us now. International shipping please add $25. All Not a Natural Color and other painted sets will include one of these bags to protect your babies already for free.
So, what do you think, is it a Granny Smith, or a Mandarin?
I'll wait 'til you've read the rest of my post (no doubt submitted after you started writing the above, so fair enough that you missed it) before saying any more.
H.B.M.C. wrote:I'll wait 'til you've read the rest of my post (no doubt submitted after you started writing the above, so fair enough that you missed it) before saying any more.
Edit: let me rephrase; the bag is sold as a way to transport everything at the Biohazard level. It can't transport even the base game (for which there is a stopgap of the stand alone tray).
I'm talking to C'mon about it, and they have confessed the issue is "a head scratcher", and they are looking into a different bag solution later.
Honestly, it's seems simply a better bet to wait on the bags.
I'm just going to lay a magnetic sheet inside the box and have all the miniatures' undersides metal. That way, I'll be able to transport everything in the box. Better than buying generic foam trays cut into rectangles that won't fit in most normal boxes/bags/containers.
You're not going to need to use all the models that come with the boxed set. We get double EVERYTHING in this Kickstarter, and the missions are meant to played with only the normal quantity of models.
Absolutionis wrote:I'm just going to lay a magnetic sheet inside the box and have all the miniatures' undersides metal. That way, I'll be able to transport everything in the box. Better than buying generic foam trays cut into rectangles that won't fit in most normal boxes/bags/containers.
You're not going to need to use all the models that come with the boxed set. We get double EVERYTHING in this Kickstarter, and the missions are meant to played with only the normal quantity of models.
Pfff.. peasant. Bathtub. Yogurt. Minis.
Good times....
Edit: actually Absolutionis, that may not be a good idea (your idea, let's not talk dairy here); it's my impression that the bottom of the figure bases are designed to slot into the plastic infection tokens. I'm not sure how much you would want to fiddly with them...
Buzzsaw wrote:Sorry, just to be clear, you don't see why the "Sedition Wars BattleFoam Bag" being unable to carry the Sedition Wars game is a problem? Just to check.
Correct. I see (or saw) the bag as something to carry the minis from the game, not the whole game (cards, counters, dice, tiles, etc.). Now clearly the bag's aim - as you've just shown - seems to be to carry everything, something it cannot do, therefore it fails at its stated task. That is something you can criticise.
So your annoyance here is justified (if a little overblown - you don't have to buy the bag, afterall, so ultimately you can ignore it and not have it worry you any further).
Buzzsaw wrote:Sorry, just to be clear, you don't see why the "Sedition Wars BattleFoam Bag" being unable to carry the Sedition Wars game is a problem? Just to check.
Correct. I see (or saw) the bag as something to carry the minis from the game, not the whole game (cards, counters, dice, tiles, etc.). Now clearly the bag's aim - as you've just shown - seems to be to carry everything, something it cannot do, therefore it fails at its stated task. That is something you can criticise.
So your annoyance here is justified (if a little overblown - you don't have to buy the bag, afterall, so ultimately you can ignore it and not have it worry you any further).
At the risk of stating out the obvious, the internet isn't the best mode for assessing emotional state (I suspect you are passing familiar with this phenomenon). I'm vexed, but I do want people considering an $80 purchase to be clear on things. It was obvious several people were not clear. Now (hopefully) everyone is up to speed.
As an aside, being accused of over-the-top annoyance by H.B.M.C.? I think today I am a man...
For people looking to buy a bag for Sedition Wars, like I said above, I would wait (unless it's expressly to support the KS); there is a chance a different branded storage product may be forthcoming afterwords that can fit everything. In any case, these bags will remain available afterwords, no exclusivity.
Buzzsaw wrote:Edit: actually Absolutionis, that may not be a good idea (your idea, let's not talk dairy here); it's my impression that the bottom of the figure bases are designed to slot into the plastic infection tokens. I'm not sure how much you would want to fiddly with them...
Damn, you have a point. The Kickstarter does come with those red chits you place under the bases.
AlexHolker wrote:Still looking for a way to buy the stuff I want without being stuck with a ton of biomechanical freaks I don't want. Still hitting dead ends.
I dunno man, I like the strain better than the vanguard to be honest, I do want both, but I can't imagine you would have that tough a time finding someone to take them off your hands or trade!
Just wanted to pass along something about the bag situation regarding the terrain pack (last post on the topic!), a message from C'Mon;
The terrain pack hasn't been prototyped yet, so there are some generic parts that might fit them. When the time comes closer we'll probably release a tray to fit the bag with the terrain in it.
Well, the battlefoam option is quite clearly a bust for anything other than the foam insert for the box.
...and for $35... I think I will easily pass on that deal.
Storing this game after the fact will be a nightmare.
Just a single biohazard will likely not all fit back into the box with all of the extras without smashing them.
It makes me yearn for the FFG sized coffin boxes, or the old Gamemaster series boxes by Milton Bradley.
Because custom boxes are definitely going to be needed to store just the biohard, not to mention the potential of terrain, or the mess of extra clear and glowy models should you choose that option.
Yeah, I know. First world problems and all that.
People can roll their eyes all that they want about wondering how the hell to store this, but remember every single person who goes biohazard level or above is going to have this very same issue. Mark my words.
You'll be hunting for rubbermaid tubs like Heroscape players do by the end of it.
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Hmm I wonder if they would consider a new kickstarter goal so that kickstarter purchasers have a way to store all of their stuff in a single enlarged box just for the KS. Wont likely happen but this recent ill planned attempt to include BF in the advetising deal kinda reveals a need here.
In some brighter (and less contentious) news - we are less than $2.5k from hitting the next Stretch Goal!
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Update #54: This is getting crazy....
Wow! This is really incredible, thank you everyone!
Every Biohazard set gets the battle damaged version of this deadly cyborg! Ships March 2013, unpainted and unassembled.
So.. if Akosha is getting all amped up (like we are), what about...
Morgan has decided to one up Akosha, and suit up in full Wildfire bio-hazard gear. Environmentally self contained for the most destructive of outbreaks, the suit provides enhanced protection from the strain infection. Armed with an incinerator, scanner, and advanced medpack, Morgan is ready to hunt the strain down and burn them out of Alabaster station.
If we hit this stretch, every Biohazard set gets Morgan all suited up! Ships March 2013, unpainted and unassembled!
Hellfury wrote:
Storing this game after the fact will be a nightmare.
Just a single biohazard will likely not all fit back into the box with all of the extras without smashing them.
It makes me yearn for the FFG sized coffin boxes, or the old Gamemaster series boxes by Milton Bradley.
Because custom boxes are definitely going to be needed to store just the biohard, not to mention the potential of terrain, or the mess of extra clear and glowy models should you choose that option.
Yeah, I know. First world problems and all that.
People can roll their eyes all that they want about wondering how the hell to store this, but remember every single person who goes biohazard level or above is going to have this very same issue. Mark my words.
You'll be hunting for rubbermaid tubs like Heroscape players do by the end of it.
I'll just put everything in a miniatures case. Just like a warhammer army. No biggie. Boards in the case with the rules. Easy. No wailing and gnashing of teeth required.
Finally able to pledge! had to go for a couple of the THI suits. So $30 higher then i expected.
just realised i forgot to include the international shipping! ARGH!
EDIT: Added it now. Pledged far more then i originally planned... My misses is going to literally kill me. The box better be sturdy, because i'm going to be using it as a shield!
I usually don't do retractions, but at this point the Biohazard is almost a buck a mini. Even without buying any additional extras, it's a wonderful awesome deal.
Awesome deal. Decided on this over 6th ed rule book for now. I can wait till november and get a mini book instead.
Alpharius wrote:And remember when people didn't think this campaign would even break $500K?
It will definitely end at or near Zombicide's finish!
At the moment it seems that CMON is actually not that interested in going much further. They don't seem be putting any extra optional items or anything really amazing to push the interest even further. As it is it seems to be stable on doing ~$55,000 per day. So it should get finish around the $750,000
I'm sure they're reacting to people wanting to see more in-universe stuff rather than all the homage characters, but these last stretch goals do seem a bit underwhelming for final pushes. Ashoka was okay, but not something I'd think would bring home the bacon. The new Morgan concept seems decidedly more bland.
"In the future, in the cold of space, even amongst the deadly tendrils of the Strain, you can still check your messages. AT&T - 'cause in space, no one has a clearer signal!"
Argh, the horrible situation where I have to choose between certain miniatures rather than having them all!!!
I basically have given myself a concrete budget, as the wedding is little more than 30 hours away now! So I am under the rule that I have $150 to spend, with the intention to both play this as the base game and a minis skirmish game I will set in the same universe, with the goal of about 15-20 max minis on a side.
I'm consoling myself with the fact that we already get 5 heros for the Vanguard in the base game, so there is no burning need for extra characters(however cool Ridley and the Calamity crew are!).
So I think my goal might be to get the Opticamo set because:
1. Would make great wargear for a skirmish.
2. Hard to replicate without special paintjobs, which for things like the heros, is especially limiting because 1 hero can be 2 forms (Opticamo and normal). Other ways like disks under the base to represent a normal trooper having opticamo are cheap, but not as cool.
I think 1-2 THI suits would be cool, as they will make great support units alongside the tanks. Although now that we get two tanks, Vanguard have plenty of available support, so maybe just 1 suit for the stat card (that I can copy if I want more metal ones, but at the least would have 1 plastic that has the customizable weapons+ having it for Jada Lily to wear)
So basically I'm stuck with the choice of:
-Opticamo and 2 suits
-2 Suits and 2 characters (or Calamity Crew)
-Opticamo, 1 suit, 1 character(probably Ridley because both her versions look to be the most useful to each side in a skirmish setting)
I vote suits and Calamity Crew. Mostly because I think the Calamity Crew is one of the cooles things (outside the game as a whole) to come out of this Kickstarter.
Okay I pledged well over the Biohazard amount... but could someone tell me why Sedition Wars needs fifty GRAND just to get a small plastic character in a static pose!? I have commissioned custom 28mm's for less than 200 w/shipping... what I am saying is the stretch goal is more money than the entire funding goal of 20,000 for the game itself.
I think they're just getting plain ole greedy with there target goals. With all this extra money they are getting I hope we see an expansion that blows us away. (don't forget Kickstarter gets 5% or more of the profits when the project is funded!)
TLDR: 50k is far too much for a simple one miniature goal.
RedSarge wrote:Okay I pledged well over the Biohazard amount... but could someone tell me why Sedition Wars needs fifty GRAND just to get a small plastic character in a static pose!? I have commissioned custom 28mm's for less than 200 w/shipping.
I think they're just getting plain ole greedy with there target goals. With all this extra money they are getting I hope we see an expansion that blo0ws us away. (don't forget Kickstarter gets 5% or more of the profits!)
TLDR: 50k is far too much for a simple one miniature goal.
Greedy? For a free Biohazard level mini? I mean yea sure if a 50k away goal was another $10 character then that would be a bit of a stretch, but we're talking about more free stuff.
RedSarge wrote:Okay I pledged well over the Biohazard amount... but could someone tell me why Sedition Wars needs fifty GRAND just to get a small plastic character in a static pose!? I have commissioned custom 28mm's for less than 200 w/shipping... what I am saying is the stretch goal is more money than the entire funding goal of 20,000 for the game itself.
I think they're just getting plain ole greedy with there target goals. With all this extra money they are getting I hope we see an expansion that blows us away. (don't forget Kickstarter gets 5% or more of the profits when the project is funded!)
TLDR: 50k is far too much for a simple one miniature goal.
I think the problem is not the extra mini is the amount of minis they gave you on the start. For the amount of stuff you get in the box $100 is ridiculously low for the quality of the miniatures
RedSarge wrote:Okay I pledged well over the Biohazard amount... but could someone tell me why Sedition Wars needs fifty GRAND just to get a small plastic character in a static pose!? I have commissioned custom 28mm's for less than 200 w/shipping... what I am saying is the stretch goal is more money than the entire funding goal of 20,000 for the game itself.
I think they're just getting plain ole greedy with there target goals. With all this extra money they are getting I hope we see an expansion that blows us away. (don't forget Kickstarter gets 5% or more of the profits when the project is funded!)
TLDR: 50k is far too much for a simple one miniature goal.
"Greedy".....I'm sorry, I thought CMoN and Studio McVey were Companies and not charity organisations.
For Zombicide, did they let you add the extra characters and stuff to your pledges after the fact? I'd like to get some of the extras here, but $100 is my absolute max right now. But, in a month or so I can spend more on other goodies
RedSarge wrote:Okay I pledged well over the Biohazard amount... but could someone tell me why Sedition Wars needs fifty GRAND just to get a small plastic character in a static pose!? I have commissioned custom 28mm's for less than 200 w/shipping.
I think they're just getting plain ole greedy with there target goals. With all this extra money they are getting I hope we see an expansion that blo0ws us away. (don't forget Kickstarter gets 5% or more of the profits!)
TLDR: 50k is far too much for a simple one miniature goal.
Greedy? For a free Biohazard level mini? I mean yea sure if a 50k away goal was another $10 character then that would be a bit of a stretch, but we're talking about more free stuff.
But it is not FREE, we had to pledge a combined total of 50k MORE. Sure, it would be great if we could get another 1500 people to back Sedition Wars so that it became free. In the end the numbers show just how niche board game and tabletop gaming is compared to the video game I guess. If this was a kickstarter for Modern Warfare 49: battle for the battle that happened last week, I'm sure it would have ten thousand yelling kids dragging there parents into pledging.
Necros wrote:For Zombicide, did they let you add the extra characters and stuff to your pledges after the fact? I'd like to get some of the extras here, but $100 is my absolute max right now. But, in a month or so I can spend more on other goodies
I am pretty sure that they did let you do this, and then let you PayPal the extra $ right then and there.
You'd think I'd remember, since I filled that survey out - but I didn't need to buy any extras then...
This time, I'm like you - I want the game and many of the extras, but I just bought a house, so I don't have all the free money now... though I will later!
Can anyone confirm we'll be able to add all the extras we want later on?
Necros wrote:For Zombicide, did they let you add the extra characters and stuff to your pledges after the fact? I'd like to get some of the extras here, but $100 is my absolute max right now. But, in a month or so I can spend more on other goodies
Yes. And what's further, you can use PayPal for any of the add-ons; a nice addition for folks like me that have their hobby budget mostly in PayPal due to other hobby sales.
@Alph--- Zombiecide's one lets you add as until you've confirmed your order. The end date to change for it is June 30, or tomorrow.
Alpharius wrote:cincydooley - thanks for the confirmation!
As for additional stretch goals, I think we'll get one "THIS IS IT!" type goal, of a free figure for Biohazzard level and up... and that will be it.
Possibly set at the $800K level, but more likely at $750K.
I think Zombicide did something similar at the end...
Yes, Zombicide had a $150,000 stretch from the last goal for $700,000 for 2 more free minis, I don't think it was expected to be reached.
I am having trouble deciding on extras for this, I am limiting myself to $150, and can't decide if I want the Calamity crew and opticamo pack, or the Calamity crew and the terrain pack.
Breotan wrote:Go with the terrain pack. You really can't paint the opticamo stuff without defeating the purpose.
I have been leaning towards the terrain, but I am just concerned about the length of the wait between receiving the game and the terrain for it (though I will be able to find other uses for it).
It gives you just enough time to paint all those figures!
I went for the terrain over opticamo. In fact I may use the extra normal plastic troopers and experiment with 'invisible' paintjobs, gives me something to do while waiting for the rest of the goodies!
EDIT: Can't find a single good tutorial for painting the type of invisible that I want! Anyone know of a good example I could copy off?
Commander Cain wrote:It gives you just enough time to paint all those figures!
I went for the terrain over opticamo. In fact I may use the extra normal plastic troopers and experiment with 'invisible' paintjobs, gives me something to do while waiting for the rest of the goodies!
EDIT: Can't find a single good tutorial for painting the type of invisible that I want! Anyone know of a good example I could copy off?
You could looks for painting ideas for ghosts.. The recent big Vampire Counts model has some cool ghostly paint on it.
My GITD strain will be be (semi) painted with a kind of reverse highlight technique. Leaving the deepest parts of the fig with no paint and using translucent/transparent paint that will slowly darken/become less transparent towards the normal Strain colors at the highest points on the model. The highest areas will look like normal (LOL) Strain, but the deeper areas will still be glow green. We will see if I can actually pull this off...
Necros wrote:For Zombicide, did they let you add the extra characters and stuff to your pledges after the fact? I'd like to get some of the extras here, but $100 is my absolute max right now. But, in a month or so I can spend more on other goodies
Yes. And what's further, you can use PayPal for any of the add-ons; a nice addition for folks like me that have their hobby budget mostly in PayPal due to other hobby sales.
@Alph--- Zombiecide's one lets you add as until you've confirmed your order. The end date to change for it is June 30, or tomorrow.
A little OT buy you can get a Paypal debit card...that way you can use Paypal anywhere that takes MasterCard.
Today is well on pace to be highest new pledger day which is good. At this rate we should be able to have almost 24 hours for whatever the next model is
Necros wrote:For Zombicide, did they let you add the extra characters and stuff to your pledges after the fact? I'd like to get some of the extras here, but $100 is my absolute max right now. But, in a month or so I can spend more on other goodies
Yes. And what's further, you can use PayPal for any of the add-ons; a nice addition for folks like me that have their hobby budget mostly in PayPal due to other hobby sales.
@Alph--- Zombiecide's one lets you add as until you've confirmed your order. The end date to change for it is June 30, or tomorrow.
A little OT buy you can get a Paypal debit card...that way you can use Paypal anywhere that takes MasterCard.
No kidding?!?!? Holy Crap. This could be dangerous for me....
Cain, try looking up some taught stealth suit examples. There are some really cool ones where they're basically painted to show the background through the model. That might be best suited to dioramas thoughh. Im thinking (ambitiously) that I might try to paint my opticamo guys like they're in the midst of cloaking, with on end painted as normal, fading into being painted like the background, and then eventually lightening to the clear minis. Definitely going to test that out first.
Necros wrote:For Zombicide, did they let you add the extra characters and stuff to your pledges after the fact? I'd like to get some of the extras here, but $100 is my absolute max right now. But, in a month or so I can spend more on other goodies
Yes. And what's further, you can use PayPal for any of the add-ons; a nice addition for folks like me that have their hobby budget mostly in PayPal due to other hobby sales.
@Alph--- Zombiecide's one lets you add as until you've confirmed your order. The end date to change for it is June 30, or tomorrow.
A little OT buy you can get a Paypal debit card...that way you can use Paypal anywhere that takes MasterCard.
No kidding?!?!? Holy Crap. This could be dangerous for me....
RedSarge wrote:Okay I pledged well over the Biohazard amount... but could someone tell me why Sedition Wars needs fifty GRAND just to get a small plastic character in a static pose!? I have commissioned custom 28mm's for less than 200 w/shipping... what I am saying is the stretch goal is more money than the entire funding goal of 20,000 for the game itself.
I think they're just getting plain ole greedy with there target goals. With all this extra money they are getting I hope we see an expansion that blows us away. (don't forget Kickstarter gets 5% or more of the profits when the project is funded!)
TLDR: 50k is far too much for a simple one miniature goal.
Your $200 didn't include the McVey sculpting quality, molds to make the figure, mass produce the figure and ship it to thousands of different places.
Looks like today should take the cake (thus far) for total donated and numebr of new backers. The question is can tomorrow put on enough to overtake the big Z?
Every Biohazard set gets Morgan Vade in his suit free! Ships March 2013, uassembled and unpainted.
And now, for your edification and enjoyment...
... stupid zombie Strain... grrr...
"Close combat with the Strain is lethal, so Kara has decided to upgrade to her personal suit of Gnosis power armor. Built for extreme combat - with a self contained environmental envelope, internal medical systems, and enhanced tac-net connections - the Gnosis is the equalizer that the Vanguard will need if they're going put a stop to the Strain's malignant expansion."
Pretty nice stretch goal. A nod to the zombicide KS.
With just over a full 24 hours to go, this one will be easy to beat.
Not only because the full flurry of backers seems to arrive at the last minute due to feeling pressured that they might miss out (happens a lot with boardgamers, no joke) but because it is a great stretch goal that will send the people waiting to see what they will basically get for the $100 running for the "Back this project" button.
I especially appreciate how the latest goals are not the "nickel and dime you to death" approach that occurred in the last days of zombcide. The last 4 goals are to be included to all biohazard backers. CMoN is to be commended for that.
MajorTom11 wrote:In all seriousness can someone check if HBMC is ok? He is far more than his usual minute late with the update... I hope nothing has happened!
It's like 7:22am Saturday on Australia's East coast. Good possibility he's asleep.I don't know why I'm up.
I'm glad to hear that she'll be available in the CKPM if it doesn't hit the target; though given that the total has risen over $6000 in an hour and a half... *fingers crossed!*
whalemusic360 wrote:I dont have the faith. Need another buy in fig and we'd get it [stretch goal].
They have been averaging $55K every day for the last few days. They have already made $60K today and we still have 7 hours to go before the full 24 hour total is calculated.
I am betting on a funding of closer to $850K give or take $10K. Which cuts close to Ogre's funding.
the point being is that with good stretch goals, we do not need another nickel and dime approach to reach such levels. Sedition wars has already proved that the formula created by zombicide to be untrue that more purchased add ons are required to reach certain funding.
whalemusic360 wrote:I dont have the faith. Need another buy in fig and we'd get it [stretch goal].
They have been averaging $55K every day for the last few days. They have already made $60K today and we still have 7 hours to go before the full 24 hour total is calculated.
I'll definitely be getting this one way or the other. I was thinking of taking the plunge on banks and phaedrus, even though I'm not really a fan of either property, just to have them. I might be getting them AND another THI now.
A lot of people at the page seems to be increasing the $25 they would spend in the end if we don't get the target. So that alone should increase the total raised by a good amount. Seems to be achievable at the moment, fingers crossed
whalemusic360 wrote:I dont have the faith. Need another buy in fig and we'd get it [stretch goal].
They have been averaging $55K every day for the last few days. They have already made $60K today and we still have 7 hours to go before the full 24 hour total is calculated.
whalemusic360 wrote:I dont have the faith. Need another buy in fig and we'd get it [stretch goal].
They have been averaging $55K every day for the last few days. They have already made $60K today and we still have 7 hours to go before the full 24 hour total is calculated.
I am betting on a funding of closer to $850K give or take $10K. Which cuts close to Ogre's funding.
the point being is that with good stretch goals, we do not need another nickel and dime approach to reach such levels. Sedition wars has already proved that the formula created by zombicide to be untrue that more purchased add ons are required to reach certain funding.
I hope we get it, saves most of us $25. Just asking 10% in the last day is pretty hardcore.
Hellfury wrote: I especially appreciate how the latest goals are not the "nickel and dime you to death" approach that occurred in the last days of zombcide. The last 4 goals are to be included to all biohazard backers. CMoN is to be commended for that.
This.
The constant adds had me feeling I would be missing something. But the last 4 adds have been awesome. I originally planned on getting the extra terrain pack, but now with the latest/last goal, I believe I'll spring for the other two big mech suits.
$1 more. That's awesome. Everyone buy an extra suit - now!
MajorTom11 wrote:In all seriousness can someone check if HBMC is ok? He is far more than his usual minute late with the update... I hope nothing has happened!
The Biohazard level is a no-brainer, it should be commented in every gaming community. Not just to reach to goal and have a free Kara, but also for the awesome deal it is by itself right now.
Just to be clear, if we don't make the final goal we can add $25 via paypal afterwards? Or do we have to add it now and already have it in our pledge? Still a little hazy.
Well I gave it one last-gasp plug at a board where I'm a mod. I could probably abuse my powers and sticky the thread as well. In any case, that might get some extra people to jump in.
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coyotius wrote:Just to be clear, if we don't make the final goal we can add $25 via paypal afterwards? Or do we have to add it now and already have it in our pledge? Still a little hazy.
*ahem*
"And not to worry, Kara will still come out for a spin if we miss this stretch, and will be available for $25 in the CKPM if we don't hit it!"
H.B.M.C. wrote:Well I gave it one last-gasp plug at a board where I'm a mod. I could probably abuse my powers and sticky the thread as well. In any case, that might get some extra people to jump in.
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coyotius wrote:Just to be clear, if we don't make the final goal we can add $25 via paypal afterwards? Or do we have to add it now and already have it in our pledge? Still a little hazy.
*ahem*
"And not to worry, Kara will still come out for a spin if we miss this stretch, and will be available for $25 in the CKPM if we don't hit it!"
No, I get that...but what I'm hazy about is where the $25 comes from...your current pledge or money you can add later. From what I've read you can add it later but I wanted to be 100% sure.
Edit: I was 50/50 on the extra tiles so I'll just added $25 anyway...Kara or tiles depending.
Both. You can change what the money you've pledged already is for, and add more as well.
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Ravenblade666 wrote:They have made around 18k in 3 hours roughly.
And the sun just came up in Australia, meaning for the next 10-12 hours people in the places most likely to affect the final outcome (ie. North America/Western Europe) will be asleep. This will result in a slowdown.
H.B.M.C. wrote:It's got to make $3700 an hour to reach Zombicide.
H.B.M.C. wrote:$2978 an hour for the next 22 hours. That's a big ask IMO.
A couple of trends detected there!
Do NOT worry - they will make it with money and time to spare - that last stretch goal is a really nice miniature and will 'make' people either contribute more or get off the fence and pledge.
Well I dont think I can contribute anymore funds. I was gonna have $100 to spare, but I think the colorado fires need my money more (donating to the Creatures!). I still hope we make the goal though!
kenshin620 wrote:Well I dont think I can contribute anymore funds. I was gonna have $100 to spare, but I think the colorado fires need my money more (donating to the Creatures!). I still hope we make the goal though!
And we thank you for it. I'm sitting by the Boulder municipal airport and a big sky crane just landed to reload. Looks like a new fire on the ridge SE of town after the lighting storm we just had. :(
Well I added a third THI, and a extra lot of Baby AIs and Bonecrabs, takes my total up to $330, but I think thats going to be plenty to be playing with once it all arrives.
kenshin620 wrote:Well I dont think I can contribute anymore funds. I was gonna have $100 to spare, but I think the colorado fires need my money more (donating to the Creatures!). I still hope we make the goal though!
And we thank you for it. I'm sitting by the Boulder municipal airport and a big sky crane just landed to reload. Looks like a new fire on the ridge SE of town after the lighting storm we just had. :(
Indeed. Big props, Kenshin. My wife and I are not in danger, but we do know people who have lost their houses.
Well an early rise and off to Ipswich tomorrow to see if I can grab a skull tape measure, as they say they have it in store on the Ipswich facebook page plus some other bits, means I'm off for the night.
Really hoping for good news by the time I get on tomorrow afternoon.
Duncan_Idaho wrote:And with the last hours near you don´t believe we Europeans care for such paltry stuff like sleep?
Funny you say that, I'm about to go to sleep, and I expect you fellow gamers to do your work as I've done mine, so that when I wake up tomorrow, the goal has been passed.
There are only 45 people left on the $80 set. By comparison 2841 Biohazards.
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Can't we make a parallel KS with objetive of upgrading that 45 guys to Biohazard? With the amount of extra minis for $20, this guys must be pissed off :\
Its cruising. Very good chance of hitting the last stretch goal. Still think he should have put up two or three more characters for $10 but my wallet thanks him at least.
You go to work and just look what happens, cool armour suited Kara, now that is a good way to end the project! We had better reach that next stretch goal. I am going to sleep now so it is up to you Aussies to get us all freebies!
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The missus will kill me when she finds out!
NINJA'D 
