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The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/21 02:48:21


Post by: Red Harvest


The Egg of Coot? (RPG joke.)

I do like the way the tripod turned out.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/23 14:35:37


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Cam'. Too kind.

Ha, thanks Gits'.

Thanks Graven', I'm quite pleased with how the gems turned out.

Thanks Shas'.

Thanks Januine. Been lurking on your thread for a while, probably should make a comment.

I've rarely had a chance to RPG, so sadly that means nowt to me
Thanks Red'. And the tripod details are quite easy to accomplish too.

Third 1:12th painting is done. This one is blue because... rgb.

Entitled "Blue Wave" it doesn't really need much explanation.
I did give the "water" a gloss varnish to make it look wetter, and for a different touch.


And now it's time for a tidy up of my work area and then on to the next project (to use of some of the masses of junk I've collected). Stay tuned


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/23 14:49:41


Post by: Gitsplitta


I love the painting and the meta-data on the back makes it even better... but where is your signature??


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/23 15:21:03


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'. I think the data on the back is a good way to make them more than just a model; good, bad, or anywhere in-between, they are works of art in the same way a full-sized painting is.

I sign them after the photos, as I didn't really think sharing my signature over the internet was a brilliant idea.

I have added little Dr H's on the front of all three now though, so there's that.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/23 19:28:57


Post by: cormadepanda


Neat painting it is really nice. That egg also turned out well. Dr h your tiny dreams of art continue to impress me.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/24 02:14:22


Post by: Theophony


Dr. H gallery has true art in it, a faberge egg and museum quality work in wall hung pictures, he also sculpted sprue previously so he has most of the "Art" styles covered. Still no naked ladies though .


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/24 19:26:59


Post by: Dr H


Gitsplitta wrote:Smart idea.
I thought so too.

cormadepanda wrote:Neat painting it is really nice. That egg also turned out well. Dr h your tiny dreams of art continue to impress me.
Thanks Comrade. Tiny dreams of art, I'll have to remember that for something.

Theophony wrote:Dr. H gallery has true art in it, a faberge egg and museum quality work in wall hung pictures, he also sculpted sprue previously so he has most of the "Art" styles covered. Still no naked ladies though .
Thanks Theo.
Actually, I have a naked lady tank-art inside my army's Wave Serpent, and the single-piece sprue sculpture I carved for practice is based on the female form.


So I have naked ladies covered as well.

New project is in the head-scratching stage.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/24 22:23:11


Post by: Januine


That's reallly quite beautiful Dr.H


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/26 16:44:42


Post by: cormadepanda


Its so naked. Need at least 100 more for my table... for things.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/04/27 01:32:20


Post by: Theophony


forgot the sculpt was a naked lady, you did the artistic bottle and bowl of fruit with the hut though right?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/14 17:41:42


Post by: Dr H


Apologies for going AWOL for a while.
I've not been anywhere, and I have been building, but in trying to produce something new I've been going down many dead-ends and have not had anything to show for it.
I've not even been lurking on DDakka, so I have a great deal of threads to catch up on, I'll try and and pop in on you all as soon as I can, but there is a lot to go through.

Some late replies:
Januine wrote:That's reallly quite beautiful Dr.H
Thanks Jan'.

cormadepanda wrote:Its so naked. Need at least 100 more for my table... for things.
Thanks Comrade. Say the word and I'll have to come up with a way to get arms on them.

Theophony wrote: forgot the sculpt was a naked lady, you did the artistic bottle and bowl of fruit with the hut though right?
I've done bottles, yes. No bowls of fruit... yet.

After all the work with cutting, gluing, cutting, sawing, plastering, gluing, sawing... etc... I have one thing I can show:
A rock!


I've also started some presents for a couple of football fans (that's soccer for those of you with other football games):

Early days yet, you can see where these will be going though.

I'll be back soon, hopefully...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/14 17:49:37


Post by: Albanyadriel


Really digging that egg and the Rock is a real fun shade of grey. Are you going to add color to the gemstones?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/14 20:46:04


Post by: Dr H


 Albanyadriel wrote:
Really digging that egg and the Rock is a real fun shade of grey. Are you going to add color to the gemstones?
Hi, thanks.
The rock is only primed at the moment, not sure how I'll paint the rock part of it but maybe it'll stay a similar grey colour. The gems indeed will be many bright colours.


Lo, Graven. *waves*


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/15 04:56:30


Post by: ckig


Love that egg and the tiny artworks Dr H! Beautiful stuff.

Will the rock be a one off piece or will you make more similar terrain?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/15 19:27:25


Post by: Dr H


 ckig wrote:
Love that egg and the tiny artworks Dr H! Beautiful stuff.

Will the rock be a one off piece or will you make more similar terrain?
Thanks ckig.
The rock is meant to be one of a range of 1:1 artefacts/ornaments for someone's shelf. But if someone wants one for terrain, I'll be happy to make one (and include more in-scale details to show this), or two, or ten...

I originally started by trying to make a larger sculpture but didn't like where it was going so cut it up into parts that then became 4-5 smaller sculptures, and from those this is the only one that I'm happy with the product. Such is art...

The leftover pieces of the rest is still floating about and a new piece has spawned. Stay tuned for progress on this.

In the mean time, progress on the little devil:
He now has a trident and hands... as well as some more, less obvious sculpting.

Once the putty has cured there I'll go back in and make them look better; I'm still better at carving after cure than sculpting while soft.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/15 21:07:07


Post by: Red Harvest


 cormadepanda wrote:
Its so naked. Need at least 100 more for my table... for things.

...for Caryatids

Doc, I have no idea what I am seeing. That one piece looks vaguely like, well, a urinal. I thought Manchester fans were all wildpinklers. Joking aside (and I hope you found it funny.), the crystal formation looks intriguing.

Also, Are you not a Leicester fan?



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/15 21:15:19


Post by: Ruglud


Interesting updates - you could make a fair amount of money out of football shields I'd imagine... Looking like the second one (Red's urinal.. no pun intended) is for Liverpool FC?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/16 22:18:37


Post by: Dr H


Red Harvest wrote:
Doc, I have no idea what I am seeing. That one piece looks vaguely like, well, a urinal. I thought Manchester fans were all wildpinklers. Joking aside (and I hope you found it funny.), the crystal formation looks intriguing.

Also, Are you not a Leicester fan?

These are 3D representations of 2 English football team's badges/shields. The first, as you might guess, is for Manchester United. Their badge looks like this:

My idea being that the majority of it is a base for the little devil to stand on as if he's popped into life.
He now looks like this after some sanding and carving, priming to check for problems, and attached to the base (long pins from his feet into the base) with his hooves sculpted on.

While I've been handwaving the pose and odd proportions away as he's demonic, I'm quite pleased at how he's ended up in a nice guitarist pose.

There are two flavours of Manchester football fans; Man U and Man City. They would likely say that the other was the wildpinklers (something I had to look up) amongst other less savoury adjectives.
And contrary to common belief, I know someone that was born and raised in Manchester and is a Man U fan.

Personally, I don't really follow football all that closely. I enjoy watching a good game, but don't feel any strong emotions over who wins or not. Although it's nice to see the home team doing well (Northampton) when they do.
I'm more into Rugby (and even played for my school and a local team for a bit), and Ice hockey as team sports. You may see a common element there.

Ruglud wrote:Interesting updates - you could make a fair amount of money out of football shields I'd imagine...
That's not a bad thought...

Looking like the second one (Red's urinal.. no pun intended) is for Liverpool FC?
You are correct, that's probably says more about the original design than my work.
For those not familiar:


The Man U is nearly done (just need to go over and tidy up ready for painting), but will finish off the Liverpool one before painting them both; As they both include Red as the main colour.

You may also see in the background my other artefact project:

As a way of making use of all the leftover plaster I've collected (don't throw stuff away that might be useful).
Obviously inspired by dry stone walls, but I am gluing it together and filling the inside cavity, around that nice sturdy metal bar, with fresh plaster poured in.
I'll also be filling the larger gaps with more small fragments once I've got the main structure built.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/16 23:01:33


Post by: Red Harvest


Excellent use of the plaster. very realistic.

Those Logos are certainly more involved than what we see in American sports. The urinal comment was a note on how it looked, not a statement about anything. (Well, maybe an excuse to use an amusing German word) Just to clarify. The lettering, just painted or carved bas relief, or something else?



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/17 21:25:23


Post by: inmygravenimage


Love that plaster tower, great work. Onwards to victory and the League of Champions!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/19 22:17:44


Post by: Dr H


Red Harvest wrote:Excellent use of the plaster. very realistic.
Ta. Once painted it should look like little rocks. That's the advantage of plaster, it breaks like rock... kind of.

Those Logos are certainly more involved than what we see in American sports. The urinal comment was a note on how it looked, not a statement about anything. (Well, maybe an excuse to use an amusing German word) Just to clarify. The lettering, just painted or carved bas relief, or something else?
I'm planning just to paint on the lettering.

inmygravenimage wrote:Love that plaster tower, great work. Onwards to victory and the League of Champions!
Thanks Graven.

Speaking of the plaster artefact, I got it up to the other end and have started filling the small holes with small "rocks".


And here is the progress on the Liverpool shield.

The bird is a lot more delicate than the devil (as would be expected...) and is all plasticard... with some sprue inside for support.
The head is a solid piece of plastic, and was made separate as I originally tried to make it from putty, but that didn't work out.
The wings are a piece of plasticard with a thinner layer over the lower half to give the feather layers.
The legs are pieces of wire with plasticard feet (one is glued to the shield, the other will be but you can see sitting to one side). The straight leg is through the foot and into the base.
I added plasticard edges to the shield as the foamboard wasn't being helpful with giving me a clean edge.
The rest of the details will likely be painted on.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/20 08:26:30


Post by: inmygravenimage


Your Liver bird is excellent. I actually prefer it to the devil!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/20 09:34:07


Post by: Red Harvest


Yah, bird is much cooler. What species? ( I know nothing of birds of the UK... yeah, I'm aware that it might be a double entendre.)

Also, maybe apply letters somehow, so they are raised? ( or too much work?)


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/20 16:03:37


Post by: Dr H


inmygravenimage wrote:Your Liver bird is excellent. I actually prefer it to the devil!
Red Harvest wrote:Yah, bird is much cooler. What species? ( I know nothing of birds of the UK... yeah, I'm aware that it might be a double entendre.)
Thanks chaps. The bird is more stylised than the devil and therefore has more pleasing, cleaner lines. But devils / daemons are not really meant to be clean (or pleasing). Each to their own. The bird was easier, and has less "issues" that I could do better with next time.

I did start to play with the idea of sculpting a more realistic bird, but decided that I want to keep these two pieces as individual as possible to make each a bit more "special"; as they are both intended as presents.

Red', the bird represents what is known as the Liver bird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_bird

Also, maybe apply letters somehow, so they are raised? ( or too much work?)
It's not so much, too much work, I'm not one to shy away from putting in the effort. But I want the devil and bird to be the focal points and the rest to be "just" a base for them to stand on; adding raised letters leads to carving all the twiddly bits etc. and then the bases become more intricate than the sculptures.
It could be done, but is just an artistic choice. There may be some 3D painting involved if the result is too flat.

And with the last blobs of glue and putty, the pair are ready for paint. I've got about 10 days to get the first finished so that's not too much of a rush on the painting.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/20 21:20:42


Post by: ckig


This should be good


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/23 22:09:33


Post by: Dr H


Thanks ckig.

I neglected to take a primed photo, so here's a mid-basecoated photo instead...

The red on the Man U is pretty much there and I now need to get the white solid before covering it in yellow (this means waiting longer to add more white so as to not continue to spread red/pink about the place).

I'm still working on the red of the Liverpool, as what you can see there is a mix of scarlet and crimson and white, before the final red coat. Then more white, before green details.


I've also started work on a fourth project that should prove more fun than the current three. At the moment it's just a dismantled CD player and a blended green rectangle (that you can just about see on the right of the above photo)... All will become clear in time.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/24 21:17:48


Post by: Dr H


First pass of the lettering freehand on Man U... I probably turned purple I was holding my breath so much...
You can still see the pencil lines I used to get the placement right for each letter. This will all be covered up in time.


Now to do the boat *takes a deep breath*...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/25 05:29:15


Post by: inmygravenimage


Impressive indeed squire!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/25 11:10:06


Post by: Red Harvest


Now with the paint on them, I must admit, the "3-D" effect is pretty cool. I was having some trouble visualizing it before.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/25 23:28:54


Post by: Dr H


Oh, how apt to reach page 42 on towel day.

inmygravenimage wrote:Impressive indeed squire!
Thanks Graven.

Red Harvest wrote:Now with the paint on them, I must admit, the "3-D" effect is pretty cool. I was having some trouble visualizing it before.
Good to hear my "vision" is becoming clearer. Thanks.

Since last time, the white areas have become yellow via a layer of white/yellow (mixture for coverage), two layers of "trainer yellow" (a cooler yellow that covers well), and then a final layer of "insignia yellow" (a really nice bright yellow that doesn't cover anything; hence all the careful basecoats).

The red areas around the yellow has had two layers of red/white (for coverage) to obliterate the pencil marks, and a layer of red.

All that while keeping the lines crisp and clean... I can breathe again.


Yes, I am aware that some letters could be better, but they are done now. I have until the weekend to finish and still have to shade the devil (he is supposed to be the important bit, not the rushed bit).
Also to do; the black edges need tidying, the yellow will get one more coat of the bright yellow, and the red lines need adding to the balls.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/26 12:49:15


Post by: Gitsplitta


That's pretty cool. What are these for again?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/26 15:35:56


Post by: inmygravenimage


Soccer, that is, to the fer'ners.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/26 19:00:50


Post by: Gitsplitta


Well yes... I got that part. I mean what are these specific pieces going to be used for?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/27 00:29:48


Post by: Dr H


They are presents for a couple of football enthusiasts, Gits'.

Progress of Man U:
I added shadows to the lettering as it was looking a bit flat.
The yellow has had some highlighting to make that more interesting.
And the devil has had some shading. I'll give him another look tomorrow and may add/change some then. I'm currently thinking that he will benefit from a gloss finish, with the rest being matt that should give him some "pop".


Once all that's done I'll pop up some "proper" photos.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/27 00:57:09


Post by: Gitsplitta


So... what's the deal with the flat-triangular-faced devil?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/27 13:14:07


Post by: Dr H


 Gitsplitta wrote:
So... what's the deal with the flat-triangular-faced devil?
That is, basically, a link back to the original design.

There's not much detail on the devil in the logo:

The arms are just simple curves, so I had to sculpt "proper" arms,
The legs are strange wobbly shapes, but devils typically have goat-like legs, so I sculpted those from scratch,
I don't know what is going on with the end of the tail, so I went with the "typical" arrow point,
There's no detail in the body as the figure is just an outline, I decided that any devil worth his salt would have a nice pot belly,

The only details left are the trident (again typical of devils) and the triangular head with 2 horns, 2 eyes and a mouth... No other details.

So to keep something of the design I decided to have the 2D face. Which I also think gives it a bit more creepiness.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/27 13:52:05


Post by: Gitsplitta


Got it. Very nice interpretation Dr H.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/28 15:05:35


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'.

A final blast of varnish and the red devil is done, and with a day to spare... I'm getting better at this time management thing...


As always, there are some things I would do different/better next time, but I'm pleased with how it turned out.

I have more time to finish Liverpool, but I hope to have it done within the week.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/28 23:41:41


Post by: Januine


Great job Dr.H really looks clean and sharp


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/29 02:16:28


Post by: Gitsplitta


Excellent work... I'm sure your friend will be delighted!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/29 14:38:36


Post by: ckig


Turned out great! Nice vibrant colours. Looking forward to the next one.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/30 21:51:22


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Jan', Gits' and ckig.

Progress on the Liverbird.
Many many layers on both the red and white to get smooth, solid colours. The photo's been kind to me here, a little more work is required and then I need to tidy up the edges before moving on to the green.


and the dry-stone artefact is complete-ish.
It has all the bits added and has had a coat of PVA/water. Will see how that dries and then decide if it wants some plaster or paint.
And I also need to build a stand for it as it's a bit wobbly by itself.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/05/31 02:36:02


Post by: Red Harvest


All very cool. I like your explanation about the devil. I suppose that your only other option would have been to make a gumby-like --ie strangely 2 dimensional in 3d-- devil.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/02 21:30:18


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Red'. Indeed, although I am tempted to make a 3D, 2D being (daemon most likely) for my army now... Probably should add that to the list.

Here's progress on the liverbird.
Red areas, tidied.
White areas covered and tidied.

...above two steps repeated until neither interrupts the other...

Green areas marked in.
Tidied the surrounding white.
Touched up green.
Tidied white.
...
Added more details to green.
Tidied white
...
Changed mixture of green to more closely match the real logo.
Tidied white.
...

Sat back, decided that the design doesn't have to be exactly the same as the real logo.
White still needs more tidying.

I really can't face changing the green freehand to get it closer to the real logo, the white just needs so many layers to cover it, it's getting silly. Neat is a good as it's going to get now.
It's only the backdrop anyway, the bird is supposed to be the focus. If I wanted it to be perfect I'd have printed off a picture, stuck it on a piece of plastic and cut it out... if I'd have thought of that earlier I may have done that anyway...

I've still got the white freehand to do...

This is where it's at though:


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/03 12:34:37


Post by: Gitsplitta


Beautiful! Really an excellent job Dr H. I'm sure the recipient will be delighted!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/03 14:21:29


Post by: ckig


Nice progress. I think the freehand looks great.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/06 20:30:56


Post by: Dr H


Thanks chaps.

Lettering is hard, and very slow...

Nearly done; just have to tidy up the green, do the flames down the sides and then shade/highlight the bird.

Letters could be so much better, but at least they are neat (or will be).


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/06 21:11:47


Post by: inmygravenimage


That is staggeringly good. Clever chap.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/09 23:03:49


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven, at least you seem to have seen it before it was removed (don't know when that happened, again).

But never mind, it is now finished and, after some varnish issues (not what you might at first think; clogged valves in spray cans, again... not going to bother with those next time, I have an airbrush for a reason), I have the finished photos:



I pretty pleased with how the bird turned out (notice the subtle shading ), not so much the base, but the bird is the star.

In other news, I have some photos to show from DarkTraveler777, who has made use of some of my bathroom accessories, and parts of the hut kit:


Even using one of the roof pieces as a floor, just what I like to see.
More angles can be seen over in the Wreck-Age Discussion thread on DDakka.

I still have 3 more of the hut kits available, as well as bathrooms and boxes.
And Mr. Ethereal is still on ebay.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/21 22:48:23


Post by: Dr H


Must have chosen the wrong time to upload that post then...

The next project has had a difficult birth. Tacky paint and non-smooth gloss finish issues. Still, I'm determined to continue as I think it's a fun idea.

While rummaging in my collected junk for things to make other things out of I came across an old portable CD player and decided to use it as a base for a model.
Inspiration hit before I could brainstorm some ideas and I'm going to be building a city diorama on a tiny scale, in the space of a CD.

I couldn't show anything until now as the actual model-making has only just begun.
Although I have put in quite a bit of work to get to this stage: various markings have been removed, holes filled, the nameplate painted and glued in and many layers of varnish added to try and get a smooth, clear finish.

As that's not playing ball, I'm going to work with it and not have a clean finish to the model. Weathering will be involved at some stage.

This is the plan:


Now I have the lid attached again I can work on the landscape and know how high it can go.
Then I'll dig out many bits to be all the tiny buildings, and maybe make a few. the example piece there is made from corrugated plasticard, folded around into a square tube and cut up, then re-glued with squares of plasticard in-between. This should give you an idea of the scale I'm going to be working on (and I'm thinking of having a raised monotrack train line...).

And while I'm on a "And now for something completely different" streak, here's a 3D decoupage.
Not something I've done since I was a child, and I don't remember doing it regularly even then. Nice change of pace though.
I had 2 originals and scanned and printed 3 copies to give me 5 layers for the picture. The last 2 copies I faded on the computer to emphasise the distance in the picture.
I used foamcore for the structure and spacing of the layers, as well as the frame.
As even I cannot think of a reason how this is wargaming related, these pictures are from FB (and therefore massive):
Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/22 21:18:06


Post by: Dr H


Wow, well I better get back to 40K models soon and rebuild my audience...

I've now built the "landscape"; otherwise known as some hills and a river.
These are chunks of plaster piled up (or laid out for the river) and covered with tissue/PVA.

I've also picked out some interesting shapes to become buildings.
This is not the final layout, I need to level off the ground (at this scale it should look pretty flat in all but the more hilly areas) and devise a street-plan.

Should give you a better idea of where this is going, if indeed anyone is still reading...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/22 21:47:15


Post by: Camkierhi


ohhh we are still here, just distracted.
Very interesting idea, brilliantly executed. Really like some of the shapes you have chosen, hope its not all stuck down because that would be a pain to paint.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/22 21:57:49


Post by: Dr H


Nah, nothing is glued down and will all likely need painting before gluing. Although that depends on how the town planning goes.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/22 22:34:58


Post by: Theophony


Still here, well back now anyway . Vacation and family time has had me really busy.

CD city looks interesting reminds me of MIB where there's a whole galaxy on the dog collar.

Dark traveller777 did a great job with your kits as well.

Never did the whole decoupage thing myself, but it looks quality to me .


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/23 03:48:51


Post by: Gitsplitta


Were still out here, kicking back, enjoying the fruits of your labors.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/23 05:36:53


Post by: inmygravenimage


Great idea, really quirky. Somehow missed the update


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/23 05:46:47


Post by: Red Harvest


I was on the injured reserve list for the past three weeks. No more to be said of it.

The football plaque turned out very well. And I suppose that it may well be excellent advice to never walk alone in Liverpool. Some left-handed bass player may hit you up for a fiver or something

Decoupage looks top notch. But where is the mini to show scale? The technique could be used for a specialty table to show some sort of depth to things... I'm thinking a spaceship table or something indoors. The walls along the edges done up so as to give an illusion that the space continues beyond the table top?

Cityscape on a CD. Interesting.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/23 06:34:28


Post by: weetyskemian44


That's cool DrH, very cool. I reckon it'll look great, like sim city or that bit in futurama where bender gets a mini-civilization growing on his but.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/23 21:21:46


Post by: Dr H


Thanks everyone, good to see I haven't bored you all away.

Theophony wrote:...CD city looks interesting reminds me of MIB where there's a whole galaxy on the dog collar.
Yeah, that kind of thing. Or the Simpsons where Lisa made some kind of microscopic civilisation.
I don't know where the idea came from, I just looked at the CD player and the thought hit that it would be nice if it had a city inside.

Dark traveller777 did a great job with your kits as well.
Yes, he did. It's always nice to see someone from across the globe using something that you have created.

Never did the whole decoupage thing myself, but it looks quality to me .
As I said, I have vague memories of doing this as a child. But when life gives you multiple copies of a single picture, make decoupage.

Red Harvest wrote:I was on the injured reserve list for the past three weeks. No more to be said of it.

The football plaque turned out very well. And I suppose that it may well be excellent advice to never walk alone in Liverpool. Some left-handed bass player may hit you up for a fiver or something
Hope it heals well and leaves a manly scar.
Thanks.
As with many mottoes, it's probably best not to think too much about them. It may imply that even if you attempted to walk alone, you couldn't...
I've only been to Liverpool once, I believe, and that was to look at the Uni'. Didn't see any left-handed bass players then, but that doesn't mean there wasn't any...

Decoupage looks top notch. But where is the mini to show scale? The technique could be used for a specialty table to show some sort of depth to things... I'm thinking a spaceship table or something indoors. The walls along the edges done up so as to give an illusion that the space continues beyond the table top?
Interesting idea there, Red'. I'll make a note.
Sorry, didn't think about scale for that picture. The original picture is 235x186mm (9.25x7.32 inches).

Cityscape on a CD. Interesting.
I like interesting.

weetyskemian44 wrote:That's cool DrH, very cool. I reckon it'll look great, like sim city or that bit in futurama where bender gets a mini-civilization growing on his but.
Yep, that too.

City planning roughly done.
I laid out the "buildings" and moved them about to get an interesting layout and then sketched out the positions and roads between them.
Here you can see the layout, with and without buildings, and the skyline.


The industrial area (over the river on the left of the photos) can and has been glued down, as has the central square skyscraper.

Next job is to flatten the ground where the buildings go (so they are not at random angles).
Once that is done I'll start at the skyscraper, painting and detailing that and the surrounding roads etc. and work outwards, adding buildings and details.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/25 21:39:48


Post by: inmygravenimage


This reminds me of the micro cityscapes in the lego boardgames. What I really want, though, is this whole thing cradled in the palm of a giant brainiac-like figure...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/25 22:17:56


Post by: Dr H


 inmygravenimage wrote:
This reminds me of the micro cityscapes in the lego boardgames. What I really want, though, is this whole thing cradled in the palm of a giant brainiac-like figure...
Thanks Graven. With it in a CD player, whoever eventually buys it can play the giant figure.

Progress:
The ground has been levelled off for the main buildings. Some carving and some putty-ing was required in addition to a few pieces of plasticard.

And I've started detailing the central skyscraper. Yes, that is a hollow, triangular spike (which will get spikier in time) on top.

Also of note, the circular dip in front of the tower's tiny doorway will be a pool in a park, possibly with a fountain (if I can come up with a way to make a fountain at this scale).



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/25 23:10:48


Post by: Theophony


Make the fountain out of a piece of fishing line.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/26 00:26:35


Post by: shasolenzabi


Micro-fity is coming along very nicely!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/26 23:56:58


Post by: Littletower


Not gone, just... a bit distracted.

Among other things, reading some Dune pre/sequels, I think I was you who brought that up some time ago, so...

City looks good, will be interesting to see it develop.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/27 00:49:23


Post by: Red Harvest


 Theophony wrote:
Make the fountain out of a piece of fishing line.

Or clear sewing thread. Might be better for something this scale.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/27 13:54:03


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Theo, Shas.

Littletower wrote:Not gone, just... a bit distracted.

Among other things, reading some Dune pre/sequels, I think I was you who brought that up some time ago, so...
Yeah that was me. Which ones are you reading, how are you liking them?

City looks good, will be interesting to see it develop.
Ta. Should start to get more interesting as we go.

Red Harvest wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
Make the fountain out of a piece of fishing line.

Or clear sewing thread. Might be better for something this scale.
Both good ideas. I have some others and may try a few and see what turns out best. All will depend on what kind of fountain I'm after; squirty jets or fans or something else (Need to research first).

Todays progress is to show the central tower with it's details, primed (and still wet) and ready for paint (once dried, and I've fixed a few things that have shown up with primer...).


You can see the mast (that all tall buildings have so that they can claim they are taller than they really are), that is now more spiky with the addition of the end of a pin; an actual metal, "can hear a pin drop", sharp, pin. With the CD player lid above the city I feel that I can really add details that are finer, more delicate, and sharper than normal, as they are not going to be touched or accidentally brushed against, as with an "open" model.

I'll take bets on how long it'll be before I'll stab myself with it.

There is the roof access doorway (black triangle) and the building's sign (white triangle), and a window cleaning crane thing: While it wouldn't actually be able to reach all sides of the tower, at this scale it's more about giving the impression of details, rather than realistically creating functional things (there's only so small you can make something before it becomes impossible to glue it together).

The plan for this building is a full glass skyscraper. This means I'm going to be painting in reflections of the surrounding buildings that I haven't added yet, as well as the sky and clouds (that haven't been planned yet), and any landscape that can be "seen" beyond the buildings (that also hasn't been fully planned beyond the hills). And I may add the occasional "lit" window too.
Kind of the same style as the extreme nmm, shiny armour you see.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/27 14:19:51


Post by: ckig


This is an awesome concept! Looking forward to seeing it develop.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/27 23:36:03


Post by: Januine


Such a cool idea Dr.H - can't wait to see this grow and take shape - awesome start


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/28 22:24:12


Post by: Dr H


Thanks ckig and Januine. Developing and taking shape it shall.

Progress on the central skyscraper; Painted the reflections.

Photos show the surrounding buildings in place and removed so that you can see what is supposed to be being reflected, and what I have actually painted.
Modifications may take place if I do something drastic with the painting of the surrounding buildings (which I plan of painting separately and then gluing on, one at a time).
The reflections do extend higher than the corresponding building as this model will likely be looked at from slightly above (unlike these photos).


Next is to do all the other details on this tower and then it's the surrounding area and the park (which will have it's reflections added).


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/29 00:01:23


Post by: Red Harvest


Keep Calm and Continue With Your Work...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/29 00:06:00


Post by: shasolenzabi


Simply amazing micro-work there!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/29 12:58:31


Post by: Gitsplitta


Love that. Excellent work.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/29 21:30:04


Post by: inmygravenimage


Love the colours going on there. Really coming together.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/30 13:47:42


Post by: Dr H


Red Harvest wrote: Keep Calm and Continue With Your Work...
I am calm! Don't I look calm? ICanBeCalmIfIWantJustYouSee...

Thanks Shas, Gits' and Graven.
inmygravenimage wrote:Love the colours going on there. Really coming together.
The colours don't come out quite as vibrant in real life, just due to being such a small area. If I left them a bit more muted, they don't look distinct.

More progress. Not much as I snapped off the spikey tower and had to re-glue it, but at least it's straighter now (wasn't straight enough for me, whether any of you noticed it or not).

I've painted the rest of the skyscraper now;
white edging,
white/grey crane (as red or yellow would stand out too much and be "vulgar" on the nice skyscraper with it's shiny glass and white accents),
Tiny red door for roof access (as that needs to stand out or you don't notice that there is a door up there),
window-washer cradle in industrial yellow (as how would the men know not to fall out otherwise), That's painted detail on that, just a flat piece of plastic.
Our-tower-is-bigger-than-yours spiky bit is also painted like the cradle, just with metallic.
And the roof-top sign and doorway are painted with inviting colours (pink and green) to look like an actual sign.

And I've had a go at a potential fountain idea I had and had to try:
Piece of clear sprue (rarer than it's grey cousin, but no less useful),
Carved, rounded and scratched at the top,
Drilled into from the bottom,
and then smoothed around the "invisible" bit with liquid poly cement.

With some white dry-brushing to accentuate the fluffy top, and the bottom face (the one glued to to base) painted blue, I think it's a contender.



You can also see I've been planning the roads, now to paint the pavement and the roads properly... and the park...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/06/30 19:08:02


Post by: cormadepanda


Wow that is a really neat building dr. H. I really like that you are doing the city and painting the reflections.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/02 13:45:11


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Comrade.

While I was reasonably happy with the above fountain, and painting did help a little. Ultimately, is was a bit too big; especially when I added the trees (that were half the size).
I couldn't use this technique for anything smaller, carving something 1x1mm is just not possible with a scalpel. And I've ended up with fountains smaller than that.

Therefore, I had a root around for anything like that mentioned by Theo' and Red'... and couldn't find clear fishing wire or sewing thread, but I did find some optical fibres.
Scraping, cutting and roughing up the end, then cutting off a length gives the below:

And I've painted the roads, with markings, and cars... and added trees (bit of foam stuck to a length of 0.4mm wire).

Bare in mind that the park here (the green bit) is about a square centimetre.


On to the next building...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/02 14:10:35


Post by: RexHavoc


Wonderfully nutty!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/02 15:38:08


Post by: Ruglud


It's like Sim City, but in real3D. Interesting idea and build, watching intently...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/02 16:53:51


Post by: Theophony


New fountains look good. The other fountain could work too though. Here in St. Louis we have the arch 660' tall and across the river there is a fountain that erupts at noon, 6pm and 9pm, and it is the same height as the arch if your positioned correctly on this side of the Mississippi River it looks like a bow and arrow.

http://www.meprd.org/mmmp.html


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/02 19:37:35


Post by: Llamahead


Thats something you don't see everyday!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/04 20:41:00


Post by: Dr H


RexHavoc wrote:Wonderfully nutty!
Thanks Rex'. I'm always pushing the boundaries (of what? is left up to the reader).

Ruglud wrote:It's like Sim City, but in real3D. Interesting idea and build, watching intently...
It is. Yeah, it's interesting to try something on this scale, there's different ways of thinking involved.

Theophony wrote:New fountains look good. The other fountain could work too though. Here in St. Louis we have the arch 660' tall and across the river there is a fountain that erupts at noon, 6pm and 9pm, and it is the same height as the arch if your positioned correctly on this side of the Mississippi River it looks like a bow and arrow.

http://www.meprd.org/mmmp.html
Thanks Theo'. It was more the builk of the original fountain that was the problem; I couldn't see anyone in the park staying dry. It's one thing watching a massive fountain from the other side of a river, it's another when you are stuck within a small park between buildings and it's raining down on you.

Llamahead wrote:Thats something you don't see everyday!
And that's something I strive for everyday.
That phrase reminds me of one of my few experiences with D&D (or a similar game) many years ago:
Spoiler:
Our group was exploring a cave and when we entered a large cavern with a pool in the centre a huge tentacled monster burst out of the water to attack us.
I was first in the round to choose an action, and I chose for my character to say "Now there's something you don't see everyday", and did nothing else that turn.
Everyone else chose to attack for some reason.


Back to the CD City, I've added the next building.
Loosely inspired by the BT tower in colouration at least.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/04 20:50:58


Post by: StarDrop


 Dr H wrote:

Back to the CD City, I've added the next building.
Loosely inspired by the BT tower in colouration at least.


I haven't followed your work for a while, as I was away from home...
But man. You are going small and detailed!
I dig this!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/05 17:08:27


Post by: Gitsplitta


Lovely... giant round-a-bouts... shoot me now.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/05 17:12:01


Post by: Theophony


At first glance the screws in the lid of the CD player looked like little alien UFOs coming in to destroy the city . Guess I'm just anticipating ID2 coming out


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/06 20:56:16


Post by: Dr H


Thanks StarDrop.

Thanks Gits'. They're not so much roundabouts, more interconnecting roads that follow the terrain and positions of the buildings: more fluid than a perfect grid layout.
They will make more sense once the large buildings are placed in the middle of each one.

Theo, I do have plans for that part of the lid, but maybe I'll leave one or two UFOs.

Third building done, and a teaser of the next. This should give an idea of the proximity of the buildings.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/06 21:17:37


Post by: Gitsplitta


That's looking really spectacular!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/06 22:35:58


Post by: Januine


Khorne Building?!!!
Lovely work Dr.H


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/07 16:00:03


Post by: shasolenzabi


So small, yet so HUGE!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/07 16:15:04


Post by: cormadepanda


Giant city is tiny. That is all.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/07 22:04:22


Post by: inmygravenimage


I want a toy dinosaur on it, a 28mm kaiju!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/07 22:42:03


Post by: Dr H


Gitsplitta wrote:That's looking really spectacular!
Thanks Gits'. Good to hear.

Januine wrote:Khorne Building?!!!
Lovely work Dr.H
Ha That piece is actually a section cut from the exhaust shroud of a Predator tank (you may recognise the cross-section), so there is a little 40K in this.
It's actually ended up more Blade Runner inspired.
Thanks.

shasolenzabi wrote:So small, yet so HUGE!
That's what she said... ?

cormadepanda wrote:Giant city is tiny. That is all.
There will be more.

inmygravenimage wrote:I want a toy dinosaur on it, a 28mm kaiju!
lol Tempting, but will have to see how it goes and if that will fit (physically and thematically).

The short, fat one is done (although there are a couple of touches to add around it once the glue is set).
It even has a roof-top garden and statues.


On to the next.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/07 23:14:33


Post by: Theophony


That new one needs tracks and we could call it Wall-E


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/08 06:43:33


Post by: Red Harvest


Are you going to have a shoreline of some sort? I cannot tell from the photos. Given the scale of the city, some sort of water effect border would look pretty cool.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/09 22:57:09


Post by: Dr H


Theophony wrote:That new one needs tracks and we could call it Wall-E
Well that building has certainly been picked on and called a lot on names (not just on here), and I see that as a good thing; it means it has a personality.

Red Harvest wrote:Are you going to have a shoreline of some sort? I cannot tell from the photos. Given the scale of the city, some sort of water effect border would look pretty cool.

Here you are Red', there will be water. I've given the river and what will become the port, a lick of paint to make it stand out. It could potentially extend a little further to the right, but this is the initial plan (there will be two bridges over the river as well).

And building number 5.



I may actually need to do some preparatory work for the first of the bridges, before I can add the next building (you will notice quite a large "step" in the landscape where the road approaches the river).


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/09 23:03:43


Post by: Ruglud


Great (or should that be tiny) progress... really like the latest building and what looks like a helipad on top. The first picture, taken from 'distance' is really effective for this micro scale model


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/09 23:54:20


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Ruglud.
That's two helipads.

Yeah, that's the sort of distance I'm aiming for this to work for.
The extreme close-ups are not really showing any favours for my painting (or lack thereof) skill.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/10 01:05:38


Post by: shasolenzabi


Micro-city is getting better each time I see it.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/12 16:34:52


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Shas'.

Well, I've not stabbed myself with the skyscraper's spire yet. But I have snapped it off again, and I thought I'd lost it (searched over the floor, surrounding area and moved everything on my desk) until I picked up the city and it fell out from between the buildings. So that's now been glued on for the third time.

I have used some putty to sort out the city's side of the river, giving the new building enough space to fit on and producing a sight-seeing area about the bridge.

And I build a bridge.
I did try adding the vertical suspension wires, but that wasn't happening so they (like many of the smaller details on this model) are implied.

And I've added building number 6.
This really shows how useful some items can be for models. Other than adding the spire on top and the little doorway, this is as it came. A fantastic shape whatever scale you are working on.



The bridge is only basecoated as yet; I've not decided on what colour it should be.

You may also notice (although you probably won't have noticed, but I'm going to draw you attention to it now) that in planning the area in front of this latest building there is a change in plan. With the addition of the roads and properly spacing the existing buildings out, there is not enough room for the two buildings I had planned to add there.
Therefore it will be one building and a car park, and the other building will be positioned elsewhere.

On to the next...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/12 16:38:23


Post by: Theophony


Needs more sports stadium


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/12 19:38:05


Post by: bebopdrums2424


Dr H this is so cool!! I see a future in snow globes for you I might have missed it but what gave you the inspiration for this? It's a really unique project and I've not seen really anything like this before


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/13 14:22:15


Post by: cormadepanda


That is a city for ants. The ants thank you.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/13 16:45:43


Post by: Llamahead


Brilliant stuff is that a superglue lid?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/13 23:27:34


Post by: Dr H


Theophony wrote:Needs more sports stadium
It's not a bad idea. But I don't think I'll have the room to fit one on, I'll have to look at the scale and see.

bebopdrums2424 wrote:Dr H this is so cool!! I see a future in snow globes for you I might have missed it but what gave you the inspiration for this? It's a really unique project and I've not seen really anything like this before
Thanks.
The inspiration just hit me. I was having a rummage in my many piles of junk and found the old portable CD player and decided to use it as a display base.
As I settled down to draw up a list of possible things to put on said base, a city just popped in there (like the stay puft man) and it had to be done; no other potential ideas got a look in.

cormadepanda wrote:That is a city for ants. The ants thank you.
Thank you ants. Although even an ant would be a giant monster on this scale (the cars are about 1 to 1.5mm).

Llamahead wrote:Brilliant stuff is that a superglue lid?
Thanks Llamahead. Yes it is. Useful in life, and now useful in death.

The next two buildings are done, and the bridge is painted.

There was no way I could replicate the effect on the black building, and so that has been used as it came (except for the additional revolving diner on top).
To make up for the lack of effort on that one, the other building has lots of nice blending on it.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/14 00:27:49


Post by: Camkierhi


It is looking stunning Dr, fantastic level of detail, love all the building designs, and the mix is really working. It looks like a city skyline perfectly.

The only one I am having a little trouble with is the Walle building (orange box) think it is the top, not sure, just not feeling that one. But that is architects for you. 300 years ago St Paul's Cathedral, today an Aubergine, times and tastes change. You have managed brilliantly to reflect that in this build.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/14 01:08:04


Post by: Red Harvest


Top notch work on that suspension bridge. Watching it grow reminds me of the way city images grow in the Freeciv game.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/17 18:36:29


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Cam'. Yeah, I wanted a mixture of styles to show the progression and competition between architects.
This initial wave of buildings had quite a few cylindrical ones and I felt the need to break them up with squarer ones, and there needs to be a variety of heights; short, square, fat and brown is the perfect antithesis for the taller, sleeker buildings.

That building needed something on top though to make it more interesting, and while looking through bits of plastic I found that part of the Predator exhaust I had cut off, which fitted on top. Placing it diagonally, in addition to it's angled shape, helps to throw off the very squareness of the main part of the building. The "oddness" that this brings to the shape is probably what is putting you off.

It has character though (like it or not), and that's something I'm trying to get with each building. Some of them I do see as specific buildings, with specific uses, but I'm stopping short of identifying them as other people may have differing views and I want to keep that open to interpretation.

It's also no accident that it is placed at the back of the model.

Thanks Red'.

Another two buildings done.
And a photo to show the top-down street view.


Summer has come to us for this week, and the heat is sapping my motivation to do anything.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/18 15:06:44


Post by: cormadepanda


It continues to go nicely. That is a city for giant monsters of average size then. Didn't realize it was so small.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/20 15:18:07


Post by: Dr H


 cormadepanda wrote:
It continues to go nicely. That is a city for giant monsters of average size then. Didn't realize it was so small.
Thanks Comrade. Yeah, it's a very small scale. You can see the size of the CD in the last photo; pick up a CD, hold it in your hand, and envision all this in that space. You could fit 2 or 3 of the largest buildings here onto a standard 25mm miniature's base.

Progress; the next "main" building and an additional residential building (that was only added as it fitted in the space left by the roads).
I also changed the road layout a little, and this will continue to evolve on this side of the city as there will be many small buildings here.
No room for a stadium I'm afraid, it would need a quarter of the CDs area for a modest-sized one.
And I added couple of trees in-front of the previous building.


It continues to look hideous up-close.

On to the next, which I currently don't have a plan for...

This weather would be unbearable if it weren't for air-conditioning... Oh wait, I don't have air-conditioning... I'm melting...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/20 16:57:47


Post by: weetyskemian44


Isn't the weather horrible! Its very hard to remain productive in this heat so well done for continuing to build, I'm just going to sit still and eat ice cream. I bet they have air-con in your tiny city.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/20 22:09:55


Post by: inmygravenimage


It looks tremendous. And yes, we're melting here too...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/21 16:03:41


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Weety. I had to really force myself to get one little building done in two days though... not terribly efficient. I'm sure they have the best air-con' available.

Thanks Graven.

At least it's cooler today.

And so, more progress:
A splash of colour for this side of the city.


One more "large" building ready to go,
and the building that didn't have space needs a home,
I have a pair of large squat buildings to fit in for the harbour (may wait until I have a design for the harbour),
I've started on some houses/terrace, but will have to see how they turn out and find a way (and design) to fit them on,
I have plans for a diner/rest-stop/service station on the bypass at the back (the lone road in the green expanse),
I've had an idea for some fencing that needs some testing,
And I've realised that some billboards are required...

Not to mention the factories over the river (that will mainly be getting the fencing if that works), and the forest on the hills, and the harbour (and all that entails), and the blimp...

And some story-telling if I can think of something that'll show up at this scale...

Much to do.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/21 23:18:48


Post by: Red Harvest


I find myself pondering: should I be amused about Britons complaining about the heat? For the next 5 days, we in the Washington D.C. Metropolitan Area are looking at: Fri. 35°C, Sat. 36°C, Sun. 35.5°C, Mon. 37°C and Tues. 35.5°C. Then there is the humidity... (Yes, we all have AC.)

Honest question, what does constitute hot to you all? Anything 30°C or below around here is considered pleasant for this time of year.

Fencing? At that scale Doc, even human hair would be too thick. I'm curious to see your solution. Also, any plans for glass effects? Given the "cover it in glass" attitude that today's architects have...

Your comment about not looking so good up close... My eyes tell me it is the lack of crisp 90° angles on the windows and elsewhere. I'm wondering if you could clean those up somehow... what visual impact/improvement it might have?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/22 00:59:52


Post by: Dr H


 Red Harvest wrote:
I find myself pondering: should I be amused about Britons complaining about the heat? For the next 5 days, we in the Washington D.C. Metropolitan Area are looking at: Fri. 35°C, Sat. 36°C, Sun. 35.5°C, Mon. 37°C and Tues. 35.5°C. Then there is the humidity... (Yes, we all have AC.)

Honest question, what does constitute hot to you all? Anything 30°C or below around here is considered pleasant for this time of year.
We are brought up to complain about the weather; too hot, too cold, raining, snowing, cloudy, raining, anything... even raining.

For me, comfortable is mid-20's°C.
It peaked here at 32°C, with 90% humidity. Although today was much better at about 27°C. It even rained a bit (Blooming rain!)

The problem we have is that the weather is very random, always changing, and never sticks with one extreme long enough to be worth spending on things to solve it.
It'll get unbearably hot; but only for a few days at a time, maybe twice a year. Not worth buying air-con' if it's going to be off for the other 358 days of the year.
When it snows, it causes all kinds of traffic issues etc; But again, not necessarily every year, or extreme enough, and not for more than a few weeks at worst. Not worth buying tire chains, or even enough salt for the spreaders... etc.

So we complain about it.

At least my hay-fever took a break for the worst days.

Fencing? At that scale Doc, even human hair would be too thick. I'm curious to see your solution.
Here's the test (I say "test" but it's glued on and I don't plan on removing it):

Can you see it? Around the little square building? Guess what that is?

Right, it's part of a broken jewellery saw blade. 4/0 size which makes it 0.23mm thick by 0.43mm high.

It is quite difficult to glue down, especially short sections. I had to use my needle-point tweezers, and even then it was a matter of drop-and-poke into position.
The trouble with longer sections is that it doesn't seem to bend well (to match terrain), just snaps. So that hampers plans a little.

Also, any plans for glass effects? Given the "cover it in glass" attitude that today's architects have...
What sort of glass effects do you mean?
You will notice that the only building so far to get reflections is the central skyscraper. I'm not sure I want to add reflections to the other "glassed" buildings, and I'm waiting to see how it looks once I have the next building in; True, this will make it more difficult to add reflections, but they are only going to be blurry shadows rather than the (slightly) crisper ones on the skyscraper; they will also be more distorted due to the shapes (so no need to try and get the shape right).

The buildings in question are those with the green-y/grey areas. Also the last building I added (the blue area).
These already have shading on, and some have that gem highlight line thing.

For some of them, I'm waiting until I know where the clouds will be on the sky (lid) before I can position them. I can paint the clouds on the skyscraper, but determining where they will be and where they will reflect on the other buildings is more difficult than waiting until I've added them to the sky with reference to the skyscraper. If that makes sense?

The last effect I can think of is the diagonal, transparent, white line that's used on many reflective surfaces.
I can't add that until any reflections are added as it tends to go over everything.

There are quite a few final touches that will need to be looked at during the penultimate "little touches" stage.

I didn't want to get too carried away with adding reflections and shiny effects to each building and then stepping back once they are all on and it just being a "glittery" mess.
So I'm adding all the "main" buildings, getting a feeling for how it looks, and then I can tweak later. It's easier to add something than take it away later.

That almost makes it sound like it's all planned out. Nope, this is how things go when I make it up as I go along.

Your comment about not looking so good up close... My eyes tell me it is the lack of crisp 90° angles on the windows and elsewhere. I'm wondering if you could clean those up somehow... what visual impact/improvement it might have?
It's tricky to get it across in photos, but in the hand all the blurry, wonky, misshapen blobs don't show up.
This is not to say that in my "tidy up" phase right at the end, I may fix some of the worst offenders that are obvious to my (critical) eye. I know they are there.

But the reason these do look like blobs is that they are blobs, and some of them are as small as I can get. Neatness always comes at the end.
If I tried to get these all perfect, all the way through, I'd go mad and probably wouldn't have finished the second building yet.

I always leave tidying until the end with all my models, as some will naturally become hidden as the model grows, and as plans change you may find you are painting over something that you have spent ages perfecting.

I'm sure you know that all my models look a right mess (at least to me) until that last step of tidying up.
We will all have to put up with it until then (and yes, they do bug me. But motivation is more important than perfection at this stage).

The next building is in progress, but has gone through a couple of scheme changes today, so is not ready.
I will cover that (and might write about this post's content) for the Painter's thread, as Guilden' asked about scheme planning a while ago and I didn't give a great answer then.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/22 04:53:41


Post by: Camkierhi


It is looking incredible sir. A crazy undertaking for sure. Fence looks good. Though would prefer a white picket! Going to think about it myself now, let you know if I think of anything.

Oh had a silly idea. You need to add a giant 1:1scale digital watch!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/22 22:37:27


Post by: Gitsplitta


That's really come along beautifully!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/23 14:57:51


Post by: Dr H


Camkierhi wrote:It is looking incredible sir. A crazy undertaking for sure. Fence looks good. Though would prefer a white picket! Going to think about it myself now, let you know if I think of anything.
Thanks. Maybe I'll paint a white line around a house in the hills and call it a picket fence.

For me, the idea came from the saw blade. Rather than "what can I use for a fence?", it was "I have many broken saw blades, that might make a nice fence/wall".

Oh had a silly idea. You need to add a giant 1:1scale digital watch!
I'm all for silly ideas every now and then, but I don't get where this is going.

Gitsplitta wrote:That's really come along beautifully!
Thanks Gits'.

It's one thing giving measurements to get the idea of scale across, but I picture says a thousand words...

Yeah, that fenced in building is smaller than a skull and shorter than the height of a base and the windows are smaller than the paint-chips on that ork's armour...

Anyway, the last of the "main" buildings is on:

Another piece of 40K modelling in here in the shape of part of a flight stand.

I see those adverts are rotating around the building, but there's not really a good way to show that on a static model.
I may even add a hanging billboard to one of the other buildings overlooking the park as well. I'll make a load of them and see how it looks; I've got to add some billboards about the place anyway.

Next job is, as I mentioned last time, to have a critical look over these and see what needs adding while I can still pick up the whole city without breaking anything around the edges.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/27 23:30:09


Post by: Dr H


I did add a few reflections/shadows to some of the windows, but as they are quite subtle and not very exciting I have other things to show and you may see the reflections in the background.

Speaking of subtle, I've also done some putty work around the coastline. But you'll see all that when I come to doing the water and harbour, etc..,

Here you will see the latest building. This was the one that was "moved" due to it not fitting where it was originally intended.
It's mainly dark to contrast with it's neighbours (and the beach it'll be next to), and it's got a rotating billboard on top...

...That is, in-universe "rotating", Not on the model. It's far too fragile for that. I know someone out there was thinking it, I know you too well.

I've also started adding the smaller residential buildings that will take up the majority of the space on the right of the city. The first that you can see added, it's just primed at the mo.

And I've started detailing the factories over the river (also primed).


And, I have a question:
Does the below look like a giant electronic billboard, with a certain (obvious?) movie reference?
Or does it look too much like an impossibly large painting?


For those of you not getting the movie reference:




The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/28 04:37:32


Post by: Camkierhi


Looks amazing. Bill board lady looks good. Not sure how but you could add a glow around it to indicate it is a hologram.

The watch was a movie reference also. The locker people! MIB.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/28 04:50:54


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


Fantastic project, really enjoying it


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/28 09:51:33


Post by: weetyskemian44


You could try painting it again, but on a piece of transparent plastic and with thin paint. That might look really hologramy


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/28 13:41:47


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Kid_Kyoto. Good to hear.

Thanks Cam'. I see (about the watch); Sadly, like the stadium, there is not enough room for a 1:1 watch, and for something like that it'd be best to have an infrastructure built around the watch to show that it's supposed to be there, and that takes even more room.

Camkierhi wrote:... to indicate it is a hologram...
weetyskemian44 wrote:... That might look really hologramy
It's interesting that you both mention it being a hologram. I've always see the one in Bladerunner as more like a tv screen (possibly made from many lights on the side of a building), rather than a transparent, floating hologram thing...

I do have plans to cut down the piece of plastic it's painted on; the side that the tweezers are holding is not square.
And I may cut down the top edge too so it's closer to the top of the eyes, as seen in the reference picture.

With that, I did think of adding light points around the edge, and maybe some kind of framework to make it look more billboard-y (or tv screen-y) and less a single flat piece of plastic that's been painted.

Cam' - It's possible I could add some osl effects, I had planned to add quite a bit of this about the place. But the city has gone more towards a daylight setting (pretty much from the point that I painted a blue sky on the skyscraper), so too much "glow" would not look right.
I have less "important" places planned where I can test osl, and if it works I can use it here.

Weety - The problem with making it transparent is how to deal with the fade to black, and it would probably need a different way of painting the face to what I did here (base in dark brown and build up to highlights through "skin", cream and white and adding details with black.
And I wouldn't be able to tidy up the edge of the face with black.
And the added problem may be of how to deal with the rear side of the "hologram" that is slightly visible with it being mounted at an angle on a cylinder (rather than flat against a flat building).
I may give it a go before deciding, but I had to work myself up to this one, and it looked horrible up until I took the above photo.
This is really at the very limit of my 2D painting skills; faces are hard enough with the uncanny valley, but this is small enough to fit on my little finger's nail...

Still, there's plenty of time to decide and to collect more ideas and opinions.
To save you going back a page, here's what we are discussing:

Does this...:


... Look enough like the advert board from this:



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/28 14:13:19


Post by: cormadepanda


I would say yes it does... it even looks slightly like a little meme.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/28 20:13:37


Post by: inmygravenimage


Just needs a pill to make you happy aces mate


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/29 13:27:17


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Comrade and Graven'.

In the mean time, the building continues.
These may look like tiny buildings, but in scale they are still pretty large, multi-floor apartment blocks.
And a clock tower.


And I finally got around to the motorway service station.
The billboard on top is not painted yet (obviously), and yes I know it's pointing off into the hills, but hills need advertising to too...
And to avoid traffic problems on the bypass (gotta build bypasses ), it needed a bridge to get over the oncoming traffic.


Onwards...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/29 21:23:42


Post by: Gitsplitta


I got the movie reference! If possible I love this even more now.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/30 15:49:38


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'.

I've now got all the little buildings into this area and the roads painted in.
There are some green areas to add and, of course, the buildings need painting.

The purpose of this area is to show the scale of the skyscrapers, so these go right down to terraced houses.
Those are made from either parts of the corrugated plasticard that was used for the "main" skyscraper, or from a piece of plastic that I've cut the rooves into.
The rest are mainly pieces of sprue and/or plasticard, cut to size.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/30 19:26:10


Post by: inmygravenimage


You are a very special kind of crazy.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/31 13:47:05


Post by: Gitsplitta


Smaller buildings really do put things into perspective.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/31 22:15:10


Post by: Dr H


inmygravenimage wrote:You are a very special kind of crazy.
Nah, crazy would be attempting to add blended shading to these buildings.

I managed basic layered shading on many of them.

Gitsplitta wrote:Smaller buildings really do put things into perspective.
Good good. I've not yet calculated what scale I could call this yet, although it's not all consistent.

I've now painted this neighbourhood (and gone nearly cross-eyed in the process):


And white picket fences, just for Camkierhi.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/07/31 22:39:28


Post by: inmygravenimage


See, now all I can imagine is Mr Burns and his plan to block out the sun...
Tiny houses are just too cute! Fab stuff.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/02 03:08:03


Post by: Red Harvest


Whatever you do, don't picture Ned Flanders in his aerodynamic ski suit. It's like he's wearing nothing at all...

Progressing nicely. Going to put a shantytown on the hillside? ( such things tend to end up on hillsides for some reason.) With the Rio De Janeiro Olympics coming you be able to see a world class shantytown. ALthough the Brazilians call them Favelas.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/02 16:30:51


Post by: Dr H


inmygravenimage wrote:See, now all I can imagine is Mr Burns and his plan to block out the sun...
Tiny houses are just too cute! Fab stuff.
Exxxxxxxcellent. Thanks Graven.

Red Harvest wrote:Whatever you do, don't picture Ned Flanders in his aerodynamic ski suit. It's like he's wearing nothing at all...
Exxxxxc....Ergh.

Progressing nicely. Going to put a shantytown on the hillside? ( such things tend to end up on hillsides for some reason.) With the Rio De Janeiro Olympics coming you be able to see a world class shantytown. ALthough the Brazilians call them Favelas.
There will be something up on the hills (apart from trees).
Thanks.

The "twins" are now on at the front, and I've built the other bridge.

Went more low-key with this bridge. Thought about something like tower bridge, with the raise-able road, but didn't want something too "busy" here as the harbour next to it could go either way, and with the harbour out front there's no need for large boats to go up the river to nowhere.

See this as the traditional, old, original bridge for the city to contrast with the newer, fancy bridge up-river.


Next, I think I'll work on the factories on the left. They've been partly built and unpainted for long enough.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/03 01:20:40


Post by: shasolenzabi


The smallest big city ever! it is amazing the work at that scale you are doing!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/04 22:05:25


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Shas'.

I've been working on the smaller factory, but first I had to sort out the grass, paths, roads and car parks.
And the road markings and cars.

And I started deciding on what the coastline will look like.

I'm also pretty pleased with the item I chose for the factory building (brown one).


There won't be any progress before Sunday as I'm off for a couple of beers with friends in nodnoL.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/04 22:21:41


Post by: inmygravenimage


Enjoy your beers. Go see the Sensational Reverse Brothers gas tower / factories ace.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/09 23:53:29


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven.
Unfortunately the Reverse Brothers weren't on; something about a fight.

The second factory is painted, and I've added the fence/walls around both factories.
Factories being factories they are not very excitingly painted, and hopefully that contrasts with the bright glitz and glamour of the city skyscrapers.


Next job with either be the forest etc. at the back, or the oft-mentioned harbour at the front... Will have to see how I feel tomorrow.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/10 03:55:14


Post by: Camkierhi


Very much approve of the white picket fence. All looking amazing. Insane level of detail. Factories fit nicely. Great work.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/10 21:52:56


Post by: Dr H


Good good, Thanks Cam'.

And the forest it is...

This shows the highly technical method for producing trees at this scale;
tear off a piece of foam,
dip in green paint,
let dry,
glue on...


The final shot there shows how much (little) of these will be visible once the city is positioned in it's case.

This is only the base coat of green. They will get a variety of highlight tones, and there will be a few gaps in the trees to show the ground etc...
And there will be a few free-standing trees added in more prominent places.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/11 22:32:30


Post by: Dr H


More trees!
And a little hut in a small clearing.

Painted the ground/hill/mountain, but the trees still need highlights etc.


Tree painting and planning the harbour is next.
But first, I'm off for a bit more drinking for the weekend. See you Sunday.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/12 02:31:54


Post by: shasolenzabi


CD city is looking awesome!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/12 05:42:12


Post by: inmygravenimage


Took me a minute to spot the tiny hut of tiny. Truly awesome.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/12 12:39:47


Post by: weetyskemian44


It's really coming together now. Im particularly impressed by the reflective look on that sky scraper. Apart from the sea its looking nearly ready.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/13 23:55:27


Post by: Gitsplitta


Are you going to do anything special on the underside of the case lid?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/14 01:54:25


Post by: Briancj


This really reminds me of watching a city grow in Civilization.

Great job with all the little vehicles!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/14 08:20:57


Post by: Camkierhi


This is becoming a truly breathtaking technical masterpiece. It's the scale that is mind blowing, the cars can't be more than dots yet you put even smaller dots for headlights! Your insane!

Interested to see what you come up with for the ocean.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/16 21:23:16


Post by: Dr H


Back again, work has commenced, and I need to catch up on blogs...
But first...

Thanks Shas'.
Thanks Graven. Yeah, it's not meant to be easy to see. I'm hoping this to be an art piece that has many things that you can spot the longer you look.
Thanks Weety. Yep, the skyscraper has worked out well. Hopefully that will continue when I add the "sky". Water is being planned (see below), and there will be a few added details here and there towards the end, as usual.

Gitsplitta wrote:Are you going to do anything special on the underside of the case lid?
There are plans, yes. The clearer (I'm going to have one more go at making it clear, but may have to settle for "clearer") parts will have some clouds added; so they look as if they are hanging in the sky above the city. The non-clear area, behind the hill, will be painted up to show more hills going off into the distance... is the plan (this will be difficult as the lid is very much attached and immovable, and being at an angle will require perspective-painting on an angle).
These are all jobs I'm putting off for the time being as they are all make-or-break items.

Thanks Brian.

Thanks Cam'. The scale is the interesting part of this project; it's really pushing the limits of what can and can't be built in a model. A very good learning experience, I would recommend this kind of thing for any scratch-builder that worries about making everything for a scale model, it forces you to accept that some things just can't be done.
Without the headlights for the cars they just don't stand out on the roads.
I'm now at the stage that I have to come up with what I'm going to do for water, so we'll all find out soon.

Thanks Llamahead.

Progress for this week (mostly just today):
The trees have been highlighted in 4 different shades; I say this because, as usual, it's not very obvious
I built the harbour, including a protective wall, two small jetties and a larger jetty with an overhanging crane.
You will also spot that I've installed the big-giant-head advert board. There's still some more to do about this, but it's now attached.


With the jetties of the harbour in I can now add water (as they are supposed to be IN the water, and boats and things are ON the water).
I have an idea of how deep the water needs to be in certain areas about the model, but I don't know if these are actually of the same height as it is built.

I don't currently know how I'm going to achieve the water. I have a few things that I'm going to experiment with and see what sort of water I can come up with. Again, due to the scale, things are different to what is "usual", it's got to be blue enough, not too clear, give a sense of depth, and show the river to sea (which may or may not be important, research is the next step).

First, get an idea of what I need to replicate.
Second, find a mixture of paint, glue, varnish, etc. that will achieve the effect.
Third, Add to model...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/16 23:08:58


Post by: Red Harvest


For water at that scale consider gloss heavy or super heavy gel medium for "sculpting" and a glazing medium (gloss) for other effects. You can "float" colors in the glazing medium, which is a nice way to give the illusion of depth.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/20 21:35:58


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Red'. That's pretty much what I've ended up doing.

Proof of life post.
I know I said I'd update in a couple of days, but the method i've settled on takes a long time to dry and you can't do anything with it until each layer has dried.

I have been taking photos at each stage so that I can give you all a full breakdown of the method, but there is still a few finishing touches to do.

So, to tide you over until it's done and I can post a full tutorial (of sorts), here's a photo of the river as it stands:


The quick version of my method is using an acrylic glaze medium with tiny amounts of blue mixed in.
The medium I had available (without buying one) was a matt finish, but as it turns out a final coat of gloss varnish is just as good.
It's a thick, artists medium, so it doesn't shrink like paint or varnish; allowing volume to be built up.

Stay tuned for the full reveal... once this stuff has fully cured (notice that it's cloudy in the bottom right of the above photo), and I've added white details, more gloss varnish and a boat or two.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/21 06:50:05


Post by: inmygravenimage


Looks stunning mate. I think the loer will be breathing a collective sigh of relief that you're not in the current contest!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/21 20:57:21


Post by: Red Harvest


It certainly has flow now. He could enter it though, since he started it after the start point. 'Twould be legal.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/21 22:54:14


Post by: Dr H


Ha Ha, yeah I did consider making this my entry when this round started. But didn't think that I'd get it done in time to compete... and now with the deadline looming, I know I won't get it finished in time.
True, I could finish the harbour, add a boat or two and call this done as it is. But there are many more things I want to do all over the place, and mount it in it's proper place; inside the CD player.

Anyway, I see it as qualifying me to judge a contest on water features, by showing that I can do water.

And so, minus the boats and a painted harbour, this is how it was done:

This is for small scale water, really small, you may think that your miniature gaming pieces are small, but that's just peanuts to this...

The scale you are working at is important for the colour of the water.
At very small scales, such as this*, the water will appear quite blue.
At smaller and smaller scales (that is 1:a smaller number, e.g. 1:56, 1:48, 1:12...), the water will be more and more colourless.

*I've not yet worked out the scale of this model, but when a car is only just over a millimetre you know it's small.

1. The base area, modelled with tissue/PVA, was painted with a dark blue then highlighted with a light blue.
This is just a base coat which lends it's colour to the finished water (as it will be transparent), and the highlighting is just to give a little variation in tone.


2. This is all that I used to create the water:
A glaze medium, this is the bulk of what will become the water. A gloss finish would be ideal, but I only had a matt variety to hand. Therefore the finished water needed a gloss varnish.
You want something that will cure with very little shrinkage (unlike paint) and will be transparent. Look for mediums rather than varnishes.

Acrylic paint, as the medium was acrylic these needed to match so that they could be mixed. Both green and blue (see later).

Something to mix in, and my universal poking device (a blunt scalpel).

These last photos show the relative quantities of medium to paint (see the tiny dot on the tip of the blade), and the final colour of the mixture; a very slight tint to an otherwise white medium.

3. The mixture was spread over the water area.
The first pass was with a green mixture to give the final water a slight greenness; adding to the variety in tone.

You will also notice that it’s applied unevenly, this helps to give swirls in the finished water.

Once dry you have a slightly green, transparent coat over the blue base.


It’s important to make each layer reasonably thin as they will dry quicker.
And it’s important to let each layer fully cure before adding the next, or you may end up with a cloudy lower layer.

4. Three progressively smoother coats of blue-tinted medium were then spread over the water area.
Each time I made sure to keep the edges where the “water” met the land, neat.
Removing excess “water” after it has cured leads to unsightly differences in the surface of the water.

I continued to tidy the edges as the medium cured, as it was often too “wet” at first.
A wet brush did help initially to smooth out the parts that didn't behave when poked with my poking device.

Areas that were further out to “sea” were modelled with waves, while inside the harbour it was kept relatively smooth.


5. The final touches was to add patches of larger waves outside the harbour and at the beach.
The ripples and waves stand out much more once coated with a gloss varnish (as seen here).


6. The last thing to do was add some white highlights, via dry-brushing, to the peaks of the largest waves, and one last gloss varnish.

Getting the translucency to show up in photos is tricky, and I've not found a particularly good way to do this yet.

Hope that proves interesting and/or useful to someone.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/22 06:10:45


Post by: shasolenzabi


The city has come to life!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/22 17:11:10


Post by: weetyskemian44


Looks very aesthetically pleasing now the blue of the sea is in.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/22 22:06:39


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Shas'.

Thanks Weety. Yeah, this is the reason I've been avoiding blue on the buildings.

Harbour is getting there, but I've mostly been building ships...

One container ship (just a small one), and one cruise ship.
And then I added a few smaller boats in the same way I've been doing cars (dots of paint).


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/23 21:12:39


Post by: inmygravenimage


Glorious. Your white horses are just perfect.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/23 22:38:40


Post by: shasolenzabi


Just when I think he can't add more details, he goes and out does himself!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/25 15:30:43


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven. Came out quite well, I think, and hides the rather too abrupt end to the beach under the water.

Thanks Shas'. I'm always trying to out do myself.

Thanks Weety. That is why we build models.

Apart from sweating profusely ...


... I've been building an airship.

It started as a "normal" zeppelin-alike airship. But I wanted advertising on it, as seen in Bladerunner, and one thing led to another, the zeppelin was too big, etc... and it ended up pretty heavily based on the Bladerunner airships.

Then came the main problem, how to attach, suspend, and keep safe the airship.
Thread/wire was the first thought, but I decided that that was going to be too fragile as it would have to be really thin wire to not spoil the scale of the model.

I considered using a section of clear plastic (acetate or the stuff blisters are made of), but I couldn't come up with a satisfactory way to attach it as I already had sculpted the airship; the best way would be to incorporate it within the putty with pegs and pins to lock it in.

So I ended up with the method of suspending models that I personally don't really like, a piece of clear plastic rod.

Why go with something I don't like?
I wanted this to be removable and so required a good way to hold the model airship without needing to touch the airship; hence the worries about wire etc. not being strong enough.

The rod is attached to a piece of sprue (carved into a "nice" shape) that is magnetised to the bottom of the lid.


Looks like I've snapped off one of the spiky bits, I may reconsider how those are attached.
Then... paint.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/25 19:47:20


Post by: shasolenzabi


Ah the Ad/News blimp! awesome!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/25 20:21:28


Post by: Gitsplitta


OK Dr H, I'm going to stick my neck out here. I absolutely love the Blade Runner references & want you to keep them, but the mounting rod really distracts from the piece and the blimp blocks the view of the amazing detail you've spent so much time putting in. Mount the blimp to the lid directly by a very short rod and move it towards the back so it's more behind and over the city rather than in front and over. Make it a little smaller if you need to in order to keep the size perspective you want.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/25 22:00:55


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Shas'.

 Gitsplitta wrote:
OK Dr H, I'm going to stick my neck out here. I absolutely love the Blade Runner references & want you to keep them, but the mounting rod really distracts from the piece and the blimp blocks the view of the amazing detail you've spent so much time putting in. Mount the blimp to the lid directly by a very short rod and move it towards the back so it's more behind and over the city rather than in front and over. Make it a little smaller if you need to in order to keep the size perspective you want.
Thanks Gits', good feedback.
I do agree with the rod (did I mention that I don't like these... ) being distracting.

Making the rod shorter will happen. It catches the light when not in the shadow of the lid.

Moving the ship further back is more tricky; the reason it is attached where it is is that the non-clear piece on the lid hides the magnet attachment point. Mounting it anywhere on the clear area will show from outside, which leaves it right at the back; I'll look into this and see how it might work or leaving it mounted where it is with the rod ~half as long (which would put it above the height of the spike of the main skyscraper).

Looking back over the photos, they don't show it spatially as well as it does IRL, it's currently hanging right above the water (about where the tip of the crane is). This puts it in the empty space above and in front of the city. The photos seem to show it much nearer the buildings than it actually is.

I'll have a look at what can be changed (it might fit in between the rear of the city and the mountain at the back, it might be too busy), and do some blu-tack photos tomorrow.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/26 13:24:37


Post by: Gitsplitta


How about using a stiff piece of wire instead of the plastic rod? The rod, even though "clear", still effectively is a solid visual object.. and a big one. You could get away with a lot thinner piece of wire which would have less visual impact I'd think.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/26 15:10:34


Post by: Dr H


I was just about to post some tests when I saw your above comment (thanks again, Gits'), and I wouldn't be a scientist if I didn't fully test all the possibilities, so I just added some more tests.
All shown here:
As these are quick tests I have used a lump of blu-tack, rather than sculpt another blimp that may or may not be used. However, the blu-tack is a similar tone/lightness to the primed ship and of the same size, so that's all fair.

The first photo here shows the original attachment from the side, so that you can see what I was talking about in it's position in space.
Below that is testing with some clear acetate, positioned at the front and rear of the city.
My thoughts after the photo so that you can draw you own conclusions before seeing mine:


The acetate, while very good for "invisibility", doesn't quite behave how I'd like it to.
To get a good attachment to the lid it would be easiest to have it flat against the surface (larger surface area). The alternative would be sandwiching it inside a block (like that used for the magnet previously.
With it attached flat to the surface the idea was that the weight of the airship would bend it down to where it should be.
This helps to hide the acetate better by keeping it out of sight for "longer", and avoids light reflections off it spoiling the effect (one of the main issues with the rod).

However, it has a couple of problems:
1. It's very bouncy and moving the whole model around (and I'm also thinking about posting this thing as a consideration) is potentially risky with the ship colliding with the lid and/or city.
Magnetising it, as shown with the rod previously, would therefore require a good connection with both the ship and lid so that they don't break, for example, when someone wants to remove it. Getting a good connection is tricky, compared to the polystyrene rod, due to glue chemistry; a good bond to acetate is difficult.

2. In order to get it to bend to the desired amount it needs to be quite thin (and therefore more difficult to get a good connection), and/or quite long.
This means that where you attach it becomes increasingly rare. You'll see in the photos that I have it attached right at the front of the lid, not at the position of the magnet (where the attachment is hidden), and it's still a bit too close to the city. You can't shorten the length of the acetate, as that raises the ship too close to the lid (and getting the angle of attaching it to the ship compared to where it'll hang in the sky becomes increasingly difficult).
If you attach it the other way around, curve outwards, you'll need to be gluing it right in the middle of the lid (the clear bit, therefore not hidden) or it sticks outside the bounds of the CD player, and I want everything contained within (for aesthetics and safety).

Also shown is the airship positioned at the rear of the city.
Even if I made the ship smaller, it'd need to be at least half the size, it's just too cluttered back there for it to be visible as something separate from the buildings of the city.
Seeing into the back area of the model is tricky enough (which is why it's mainly trees and hills), I don't think hanging the ship anywhere around the sides of the city would help this either.
So it "needs" to be hanging at the front.
Which leads to...

Wires (after Gits' mentioned it above).
I had a rummage through my pot of "wires" and found 2 that were stiff enough to do the job.
Anything I have thinner is too bendy, because they a mainly copper wires, or just too thin to support the weight of the ship.
Hanging the ship as you would with a thread leads to the same issues as the acetate I mentioned above; movement = damage, too fragile to remove reliably.

The colours of these two wires don't help their cause, but that is what paint is for.
Again, my comments after the photos.


There's not a lot to separate the two wires, really. But the green one helps to give an idea of what a non-shiny, painted, wire would look like and how it reacts to light.
The copper-coloured wire (it's much stiffer than any other "copper" wire I have, so might not actually be copper in this case) is thinner though.

While in shadow the green wire doesn't show up much at all (a good thing), but when the light catches it, it's no better than the clear rod it might replace. But the wire would have to be painted; that shiny copper really jumps out.

Being stiff wire there's no issue with the ship moving about, and the mould-ability of the wire opens the thoughts to permanently attach it, rather than magnetise, and to curve it in such a way to lessen the affect of light on it (as mentioned about the acetate). But could still be magnetised (as I've already glued in the magnet to the lid...).
However, making it magnetised leads to people handling the wire and rubbing off the paint, which would lead to destroying the effect of the "hidden" wire (shiny copper, remember).

Whether they are better than the clear rod, in this situation, I'm not sure. Thoughts?

And finally, the clear rod again, but shorter...


It does what it needed to do; the ship is higher up, above the city from pretty much any viewing angle, and is now all in shadow, meaning you don't have half of it shining out where the light catches it...

It's better than it was in all respects, but is it better than the wires?

Answers on a postcard to: I'm still reading after all this and don't have my brain leaking out my ears.
Thanks.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/26 16:11:20


Post by: Gitsplitta


Much as I'm surprised to say it... I think the short clear rod is the best.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/26 16:40:04


Post by: Dr H


lol
Well that was still your idea anyway.

You don't know if you don't try.
Create the hypothesis,
Test the hypothesis,
Draw conclusions.

Thanks for the input, Gits'. I'm always happy to get feedback, "good" or "bad" (as I'm sure to dish out my own feedback from time to time).

Anyone else have any thoughts?

In the mean time I'm going to think about that attachment point, as shortening the rod has brought the airship nearer to it and it's become more visible.
Might shrink it a bit, and consider camouflage options (probably just paint it to match a "conveniently" placed cloud).


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/26 18:27:50


Post by: Camkierhi


you could cover the rod with steam !


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/26 19:20:00


Post by: Dr H


 Camkierhi wrote:
you could cover the rod with steam !
Ah, you mean coming from the airship... I had thought about using cotton wool to make the magnet "base" a cloud, but I'm worried about handling it affecting the wool.

I have also thought about using the excuse of the various spiky bits to camouflage the clear rod too; stick one up alongside the rod.

Will have a play with things...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/27 09:33:04


Post by: inmygravenimage


I like, it's very cool, and I'm not just saying that because I'm teaching Blade Runner this week I suggest making the pylons / wires a bit longer and have one of them running all the way to the lid. You could indeed take out and through the lid with your detach mechanism on the exterior of the lid.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/27 17:43:09


Post by: Dr H


 inmygravenimage wrote:
I like, it's very cool, and I'm not just saying that because I'm teaching Blade Runner this week I suggest making the pylons / wires a bit longer and have one of them running all the way to the lid.
Thanks Graven.
Lucky little kiddies you have there, I was never taught about anything as cool... or at least remember being taught, which amounts to the same thing.

It's a thought, but it may look a bit too comically large if I extended the spines enough to space the ship far enough away from the lid.

You could indeed take out and through the lid with your detach mechanism on the exterior of the lid.
I feel that auto-correct may have had a say in this sentence and I don't really follow what you mean?
I don't want anything on the outside of the lid as I want that to retain the look of the CD player (although it's going to be "distressed").

No pic' update.
Been having a look at the spines with an aim of pinning them to prevent/minimise snapping them off if the ship is handled.
Many of them are too thin to drill into with my smallest bit (0.3mm), so that's not possible.
I did add some thin wires as extra spines while I was there.

With that meaning that the airship has fragile parts, I think I'm going to do away with the "base" and magnet and attach the rod directly to the lid permanently, thus doing away with issues of:
hiding the base,
fragile spines,
grubby fingers on the rod and/or cotton wool clouds,
falling off in transit,
having to add instructions for handling,
and pretty much any other problems that may have been mentioned.

Sometimes, the simplest solution is the best.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/27 21:31:37


Post by: inmygravenimage


Magnet is good I just meant in one side and out the other.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/27 23:51:17


Post by: Guildenstern


If I missed it, apologies! but what are you doing with the lid?

Because I totally am seeing the black disk part as the sun, setting, and the interior part as the atmosphere surrounding the city.

Also, re: airship I keep thinking about two magnets repelling but I can't think of a way to keep them in line, with the airship hanging down from the top ><


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/28 08:31:47


Post by: Camkierhi


I was thinking making it less obviously a straight rod, so something similar to what I did here..

Spoiler:





You could do a thin wire circling away from the back indicating movement, with a little bit of whispy stuff indicating "steam" of exhaust.

What you have shown so far looks good to go though.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/28 22:18:34


Post by: Dr H


Fair enough, Graven. I've removed the magnet now anyway, so we'll see how it looks without.

Guildenstern wrote:If I missed it, apologies! but what are you doing with the lid?

Because I totally am seeing the black disk part as the sun, setting, and the interior part as the atmosphere surrounding the city.

Also, re: airship I keep thinking about two magnets repelling but I can't think of a way to keep them in line, with the airship hanging down from the top ><
Lo Guilden'.
A sunset at the back would have been good. But to add that now, I'd have to paint it on the central skyscraper, which is not possible now.

I do have plans though.
The opaque part at the rear is going to have hills, etc. painted on to match the modelled one. I'm putting this off as it involves painting a 3D perspective on an angled 2D surface (and not angled in a helpful way either).
The clearer (and clearly not getting any clearer) part of the lid is representing the sky and will have some clouds painted on to hopefully cast some shadows onto the city and look cool in photos.

I know what you mean; magnetic levitation.
I've seen it done in models. The one that springs to mind is an Eldar jetbike (or similar vehicle) suspended over some ruins/flagstones.
I believe that it involves a quite powerful magnet inside the model, and an electromagnet in the "base". I don't think I have the space for either in this case.

There's also flux pinning, that would do the same job. But I don't think I could sell a model that requires a plug and liquid nitrogen. Not to mention getting hold of a suitable superconductor (I have synthesised some during my undergraduate days, didn't keep hold of it though).

Thanks Cam'. Yeah, I did think about curving the wire if I used it. Hiding it in the exhaust is a good idea. Plan B for now.

I've been painting the airship (slowly) and thought I'd take a photo or two to liven this post up:
Notice the added spiky bits, and the one along the rod to (hopefully) camouflage it a bit.
It's also plastered in small adverts and I'll eventually come up with an idea of what to put on the main displays.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/29 21:29:14


Post by: Dr H


And now with 100% more advertising...


That's just held in with friction at the moment.

Now, I suppose, it's time to start on the landscape painting for the background.
And clouds.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/30 13:00:10


Post by: Gitsplitta


Been waiting for this next part. I think it'll make a big difference!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/30 20:09:53


Post by: inmygravenimage


A new life awaits you in the off world colonies! Very nice.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/30 20:10:49


Post by: shasolenzabi


Love the touch of the message/ad blimp!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/30 21:20:53


Post by: Dr H


You'll need to wait a little longer, Gits'. Much research/inspiration searching today.

The rear/lower section of the lid has had some holes filled and it's primed and ready for paint.
I found some photos of hills from just the right angle, to give me an idea of what to paint.
And then researched Anamorphic art (took a while to find out what it was called to start with) to work out how to paint something on an angled surface.

As this is an interesting subject if you are into perspective in art I'll post the links to the site I've been using:
https://anamorphicart.wordpress.com/ This explains everything related to anamorphosis, but the part I'm using is about halfway down that page about Plane anamorphosis...
https://anamorphicart.wordpress.com/2010/04/22/plane-anamorphosis/ Which can be found by itself here.



I've practised on a piece of paper, with pen and pencil, just to get my head around drawing the grid in the shape required for my lid.

Once I had the grid done I was returned to GCSE Art classes in transferring a picture from one grid to another.

Luckily with the abstract shapes made from splodges of colour, that are distant hills, trees and clouds, it should be pretty do-able... I just have to contend with painting within the CD player as the lid is firmly glued to the base (city and airship have been removed though). Had this been planned from the start I would have painted it first.
I've had worse angles to paint at...

Thanks Graven, Shas'. I did avoid using BR references for the adverts as I don't want this to become a Blade Runner model. But the front side got a sci-fi person with hologram thing, and the back got some unintelligible lettering as it's not easily visible in normal viewing.

Letting the primer cure fully before even attempting any painting on it to avoid any lifting off (as it tried to do during priming, not the best surface for paint adherence).


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/31 19:46:09


Post by: Dr H


Clouds still to do. More on that below.

Hills done though. Not quite as difficult as I expected, and quite effective.

This series of photos shows, from top to bottom:
How it looked before I decided that some holes needed filling,
This was the way up the majority of it was painted (upside down),
"Full-on" shot,
Viewing angle shot,
And 3 photos with the city in place.


Next is the clouds...
These provide another challenge. How to paint on a clear(ish) surface that can be viewed from both sides...
I will need to think about this.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/08/31 20:48:30


Post by: shasolenzabi


Hmmm, a quandry regarding that semi transparent cover.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/01 04:29:12


Post by: Red Harvest


Well, this is a direction I did not foresee. Very cool idea.

No help about the clouds.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/01 17:05:14


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'.

'Twas a tough thing to wrap one's head about, indeed Shas'.

Thanks Red'. Glad to have introduced the unexpected.

The clouds did take some hard thinking, and some google-ing to see if I could find any alternatives to the only obvious answer I could come up with.

I found no alternatives...

To paint something on a clear surface, that is visible from both sides, you have to paint the details first...

By this, I mean the things that you would usually paint last, you have to paint first.

Taking the clouds as an example:
Normally, you would paint the white bulk of the cloud's shape first,
Then you would add some light grey shading,
And then the darker grey details to the lower edge of the cloud.


For this case:
You paint the darkest shadows and details first,
Add the light grey shading next, overlapping wherever,
Then cover the entirety of that with the white (but without going below the dark grey at the bottom...
Then you paint the light grey shading as normal,
And finish with the dark grey shadows to finish the look of the clouds from the inside.

Take a moment to wrap your head around that...

...

and bare in mind that you cannot add more shading or highlighting to the outer side once you've painted over it.

Luckily, clouds are forgiving.

Once that's all done, it'll look a bit like this:


Now we're onto the stage of adding the final little details and then weathering the outside of the CD player.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/01 19:31:12


Post by: shasolenzabi


That is looking cracking good!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/01 20:01:35


Post by: Stormwall


That is stunning. You were absolutely right about the clouds needing to be painted first, it really paid off.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/02 11:05:37


Post by: Januine


Clouds are awesome. You cracked it. They look brilliant. Nice job Doc


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/02 11:23:10


Post by: weetyskemian44


By the beard of Zeus! The clouds make it whole and good.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/03 15:13:18


Post by: Dr H


Thank you all. Good to see it well received.
Things like this always require a deep breath and then go for it. No going back.

Still deciding on what/where I might add the final little touches, but one so far:

Being a CD player, the case had two holes on either side for headphones and charging.
When first preparing the case I decided to leave these open, but had no idea what to do with them; they may have just been left as open holes.
But, probably as a result of my recent trip to nodnoL and travelling on the underground, I've added a track and train.
Just as a fun little detail.


I've now started with tidying up the edges of the CD. You can see how worn it is in the above photo.

Getting ever nearer, but I have one last trick up my sleeve...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/04 12:30:31


Post by: Januine


Love the subway train. Inspired wee touch


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/04 16:37:56


Post by: Llamahead


Hmm part of me wouldn't be surprised to hear that you plan to motorise it........


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/04 18:25:46


Post by: inmygravenimage


That is weird extraordinary work on the lid, and the tube is terrific!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/06 12:26:01


Post by: Januine


Lol. Ah 'the tube' ㅋ


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/06 13:39:54


Post by: Dr H


Glad you like the tube, chaps. It was that or the holes would have become sewers; I think this was the more fun option.

Llamahead wrote:Hmm part of me wouldn't be surprised to hear that you plan to motorise it........
lol No, not this time. It's not designed to be seen full-on from the back, and the out of town factory doesn't fit under the lower part of the lid if it were to rotate.

The city is glued in now and it's a matter of finishing touches before the final reveal.

In the mean time, I have some judging to do, and you can too if you pop over to the LoER terrain contest public voting thread:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/701595.page#8883629
Go and give them some love.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/08 05:36:12


Post by: Red Harvest


This seems eerily apropos.



Clouds look fantastic. Whole project does. Glad you made the headphone jack a subway and not a sewer main


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/08 13:02:39


Post by: Gitsplitta


The clouds are really stunning, and are an excellent tool for hiding the attachment point for the blimp.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/11 00:05:26


Post by: Dr H


Red': Yeah, that works.
Thanks.

Thanks Gits'. See, I did have it covered, but thanks for the feedback.

and after poking and prodding, wiping and splashing, the city is done. I can't justify putting any more hours into it.

Lots of photos in 4 collages; there are many things to show.
Although I took over 80 photos to get it all just right in lighting and focus.

Have a look around and zoom in to see all the details.








Thanks for sticking with me on this journey.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/11 09:45:52


Post by: inmygravenimage


Just extraordinary. After much consideration, my favourite bit is still the window cleaner outstanding work sir.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/11 12:47:02


Post by: Januine


Awesome work Dr H. So much, just so much!!!!!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/11 14:32:46


Post by: Camkierhi


Pretty spectacular, labour of love that we have really enjoyed riding along with. Fantastic attention to detail. Want to know why we do not have a monkey hanging off the Empire State!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/12 13:06:59


Post by: Gitsplitta


Such a jot to have been with you on this epic journey through your amazing talents and imagination. This is one of the most interesting, unique and mind-blowing projects it's ever been my pleasure to see on Dakka. Congratulations Dr. H. I hope everyone votes on the image so we can get it on the front page of the gallery and keep it there for a long, long time!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/12 23:42:30


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven. I don't think I can pick a favourite bit myself. I'm just glad it all works together.

Thanks Jan'. More and more details, it's what I like.

Thanks Cam'. Glad you enjoyed watching.
No ape... No Empire State.

Maybe one day I'll do another, but with loads of monsters fighting it out. Just not yet.

Gits': Thanks.
It has been quite a while since I've had something up on the gallery front page, so that'll be nice.

No modelling today as I've been tidying a room (that room, where all the junk goes).

There are a few little things I have to finish off for this blog; those rock things I showed before.
But I'll soon be posting a question over in my army blog as it's been too long since I've done something for myself.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/21 21:59:32


Post by: Dr H


I promised rock things, so here's rock things.

This is currently known as "Artefact 1".
You saw before that it emerged from a series of experiments to make something "different" from some pressed cardboard packaging; most of which ended up back on the pile of junk (to be used for something in the future).

This one, together with some plaster spread about and to fill it, and some sprue (what else would you expect of me?) became what you see here.


You'll see that I stuck with the grey rock look of it; although it received many layers, washes and dry-brushings.
The crystals were originally going to be multiple colours, but having started colouring them I didn't like the look and so decided to stick to one colour.

I aimed for an undefinable something and it's pretty much there: What's if for? Who knows. Check.

Thing is, there are plenty of natural rocks out in the world, and some can be found with pretty gems/crystals inside, and I've just made one from cardboard, plaster and sprue...
But why would someone want this one when they could get a "real" one?
I have perplexed myself with my own artwork... Maybe that's the point...

The other rocky thing I showed before has developed a purpose though:
And so, has not had much painting love.

I'm going to keep this one around for a bit and use him as a cast master to make moulds of for stone walls and the like.

Anyway, these can now leave my work area and I'm going to head over to my army blog and build something there.
Pop in and say hello.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/22 00:24:09


Post by: dsteingass


My God Doc.....This is stunning stuff....that city is just masterful!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/09/22 14:00:51


Post by: Dr H


Hey hey, Dave. Good to see you out and about.
And Thanks.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/10/29 21:12:24


Post by: Dr H


I've been quiet (but busy) again.

And now I have a couple of sculptures to show you all here.
The first I've already shown in my army blog as it was relevant to discussion about a new toy in my modelling arsenal; a 3D printing pen.
In trying out some of the techniques unique to this equipment, I came out with a display stand for all the earrings I've been making:


The printing pen is an interesting tool, and I'll be sure to keep experimenting with it.

I have just finished another, more typical, sculpture.

Still need to work on my hand and head sculpting, but getting better with each one.

I can now get back to my tank (until I need to start on Christmas presents).


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/10/29 23:50:23


Post by: dsteingass


Holy Crap! That's amazing! you did all that with the pen?

Can it do precise, complex shapes like...

with consistency?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/10/30 20:01:23


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Shas'.

Thanks Dave.
I did the "wings" and the handle with the pen.
The wings (as seen in my other blog) were first traced over a pencil drawing on a piece of paper and then I added more material with the pen to the rear of those pieces to round them out (as the side that was on the paper was flat.

I then experimented with smoothing them off with a combination of sanding, a soldering iron, and poly cement (being ABS the plastic can be dissolved with solvents much like other styrene-based plastics). The final result is still not perfect, there are ridges/gaps (that could be filled with more work).

They were glued to the stand and then I added more twirls with the pen to tie them into the structure (and strengthen the bond between wings and stand).

The handle started with two pieces of fairly thick metal wire, embedded into the sand and bent into shape. These give a solid anchor for the handle and lend their strength to supporting the stand when held. The ABS is slightly more brittle than the polystyrene we are used to from model kits and plasticard, and so can snap fairly easily if not supported. Also, if you are not careful with joins between previous and current extrusions of the plastic you can end up with weak points (it's fairly simple to ensure that the newly extruded plastic is still hot enough to melt and bond to the already cooled plastic, and pieces can be glued together with poly cement anyway).

I then started at the base and worked my way along the wires, side to side, letting the extruded plastic bend and curl before it cooled into shape. It was tricky to get it to stick to the metal wires, as the conduction of heat of the metal meant that the plastic cooled quickly and didn't stick (think of it in the same way as a hot-glue gun). But curling the plastic around the wires and extruding into gaps meant than I achieved a fairly strong structure.

Doing girders etc. would be tricky, but not impossible. It would take a lot of practice, keeping a steady hand with a steady movement that is balanced with the speed of the pen (which also depends on the temperature you set for the pen):
These will vary depending on the particular pen you use, but for this one...
The speed is set by a slider on one side and can go from "I'm bored waiting" to "Oh god please make it stop".
There's no markings or soft-stops for this slider so getting a consistent speed would be challenging from one sitting to the next.

The heat is set by a variable resistor accessed through a hole in one side.

Neither the heat or speed can really be changed as you use it, so it's not a balancing act to find the perfect settings, it's more a trial and error process; choose settings, try it out, change settings, try again...

The only other control you have is forward and backwards. You can press and hold or double-click (for constant) and the mechanism with push the filament through the pen. It's not very "instant" in it's reaction, there is a slight delay in starting to move and stop so there's another thing to take into account as you use it. Fine control is very difficult.

This also means that the plastic is extruded at the speed that is set, not the speed that you move your hand. You have to match your movement to the speed you have set.

At the moment, if I wanted something straight and regular in shape, I'd be cutting plasticard before I picked up the pen. But practice will come in time and maybe it'll change my mind one day.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/10/30 20:05:29


Post by: dsteingass


Fantastic description! Thanks Man! I get it now


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/10/30 22:21:20


Post by: inmygravenimage


She is very impressive! Great work.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/11/26 21:51:47


Post by: Dr H


It's something new to play with and one day it'll find it's perfect application.

Thanks Graven.

And now it's approaching that time of the year again.

Can anyone guess what this is to become?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/11/26 22:18:15


Post by: Red Harvest


A box of chocolates?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/11/26 22:43:01


Post by: Dr H


Nope. The model is a solid lump. The thing it represents did/will contain something...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/11/29 00:48:31


Post by: Dr H


More will be shown on that tomorrow, but in the mean time...

I needed a wooden barrel / container / bucket thing for another item and came up with a potentially useful method to build it.
So I thought I'd share:

While you could take a solid plastic cylinder and carve the planks into it's surface, you may be in possession of a large supply of short, flat, planks and want to turn them into a cylinder of some kind.

But how many planks will it take to make a cylinder of a certain radius?
If they are all the same, you could measure one, calculate the circumference of the circle, and divide one by the other.
But if they are not all the same, you would have to measure each plank...

What angle should you glue individual planks together so that you end up with a circle and not a polyhedron?
You could just go at it and hope to come full circle before running out of planks...

Or you could try this:


Can be used for any "plank" material.
No maths involved.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/11/29 13:47:09


Post by: Gitsplitta


Beautifully done... and a great tutorial too. Thanks for that. Very creative. Really good effect too... wow.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/11/29 15:12:59


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'. Hopefully it'll help someone.

Now, surely someone will be able to spot what this is going to be.


Once I add the main feature it'll be obvious... Unless my sculpting isn't up to the job that is.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/11/30 09:58:07


Post by: inmygravenimage


Han in Carbonite? Nice. And great tutorial. Always a joy.
BTW I finally built that crate you sent me aaaaaaaaaaaages ago, trying to get it sit right-yet-rickety was interesting


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/11/30 10:50:44


Post by: Cleatus


Is it a Grimdark VHS tape? Nah, not enough skulls and rivets.
You have my curiosity though. More pics, please!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/11/30 22:02:28


Post by: Dr H


inmygravenimage wrote:Han in Carbonite? Nice. And great tutorial. Always a joy.
Correct-amondo. I knew someone around here would get it without needing Han.
Glad you liked the little tutorial. There's a "part 2" coming for that item... if it works.

BTW I finally built that crate you sent me aaaaaaaaaaaages ago, trying to get it sit right-yet-rickety was interesting
Cool. Yeah, there's only so good a fit you can keep though the various stages needed for sculpting, moulding and casting... when it's all done by hand. Lots of dry-fitting required to get the best arrangement of the parts.
I'd be interested in getting your professional opinion of it (in your capacity as a model reviewer); true, there's not much to be said about a box, but any constructive feedback is useful.

Cleatus wrote:Is it a Grimdark VHS tape? Nah, not enough skulls and rivets.
You have my curiosity though. More pics, please!
Ha.
More below.

Starting to build up the shape.
As with any putty work, you can't slap it all on in one go as it'll deform as you try and work details in.
I'll probably get the body right first and then add head, hands and feet afterwards.

I even made a simple stand for it.


And you know how the carbonite block is a simple rectangle?
It's not.
From the various sources I've found online, the back is slightly larger than the front.
And the top is slightly smaller than the bottom (as you look at it above).

Maybe that's just so it looked more imposing on film, or they wanted to make life more difficult for people trying to copy it.

On this scale (~1:20) it amounts to about a millimetre or two difference. But it's there, so in your face ILM.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/01 14:46:56


Post by: Dr H


Yes, I know, his shins are a bit too long there. That has been fixed.


The body is now a little long, but the shoulders need to come down a touch anyway, so that's fine.
This is why you bulk out the shape before adding details.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/01 14:55:41


Post by: shasolenzabi


Carbonite container with a specimen inside


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/01 23:04:52


Post by: Dr H


That it is, Shas'. It's the specimen... If I can get it to look enough like him. The body is the "easy" bit.

In the mean time:
Part 2 of what to do with the planks once you have formed them into a cylinder.

You will want to fill your barrel with something, and if that something revolves around washing clothes then quickly knock up a washboard and find yourself some clear acetate (or other similar clear sheet plastic).

Cut the acetate into a rough circle that'll fit inside the barrel.
Then cut a slot where the washboard will fit through.
Then follow this:


And done:


You could use water effects for the same thing, and probably get a better result. But it would take ages to cure. Sometimes quicker is better.
I just wanted to see if it was possible.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/02 15:52:57


Post by: Dr H


And then this happened...


Now I have to take a deep breath and do the face...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/02 16:21:10


Post by: Gitsplitta


That barrel... good heavens man. Is there no limit to your creativity!!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/03 17:20:11


Post by: Dr H


 Gitsplitta wrote:
That barrel... good heavens man. Is there no limit to your creativity!!
Just a matter of trying new things; if they work, great. If not, try something else. I just wanted to see if it was possible to make a water surface without having to fill the container with water effects, but keep the depth of the container and not use a false bottom to make the water effects shallow.

There's sayings along the lines of; If you don't know that a thing is impossible, you may achieve it.

If you'd asked anyone "how would I make this container look full of water?"
They would (generally) tell you to fill it with water effects.

I thought (not having any water effects to hand) "Why don't people use clear plastic to represent the water's surface?"
I knew I had the glaze medium after using that on the CD City, so filling the gaps and adding texture could be done. But would it work together?
Don't know if you don't try.

You could even use this technique with water effects to make the false bottom and use less of the effects stuff.
Cheaper, cures quicker, and you don't need to try and paint the false bottom to represent depth, just paint the inside of the container.

I'm pleased with how it came out and will try that again in the future.

I'm also pleased with how Han's face came out. On the first attempt too.

The face was carved from the lump I already had there, the hair (as well as the feet) I've only just added with fresh putty.

I used short pins of paperclip, drilled into the surface, to anchor the feet on, and I'll do the same for the hands... something else that's just as difficult to sculpt as faces...
Another deep breath required.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/03 22:25:24


Post by: inmygravenimage


Very nice - and unmistakable


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/06 00:07:47


Post by: Dr H


Good to hear, Graven.

Thanks Shas'.

Hands. Oh how I dislike sculpting hands.

At least after going over them with my scalpel they look less like Wallace saying "Cheeeese!" (They were quite fat fingered).



With that, he's basically done. I'll put him to one side and see if there's anything I want to change when I come to painting (which thankfully, should be easy).

Putting Han to one side means I can start the 3rd project for Christmas:
Gandalf! With a load of OSL.

The second picture is roughly what the shading will be; the source of light will be the tip of his staff (re. Moria).

I'm contemplating some kind of Dwarven pillar for him to be looking at. Then it's only painting... pretty much.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/07 09:50:44


Post by: inmygravenimage


I think, perhaps, we can... risk a little light
Cracking Solo, Gromit.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/07 10:30:29


Post by: RexHavoc


Han is coming along very nicely now! How soon after you finish this scale mock-up will you be starting on the life size one!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/07 21:06:30


Post by: Dr H


inmygravenimage wrote:I think, perhaps, we can... risk a little light
Yes, indeed.

Cracking Solo, Gromit.
You see what I mean. I might not be able to look at the "original" without thinking about it.
Thanks.

RexHavoc wrote:Han is coming along very nicely now! How soon after you finish this scale mock-up will you be starting on the life size one!
Ha. For life-sized it'd be worth buying the moulded pieces of Han and just building the frame. I have the dimensions now, so it's only a "small" leap to full-size.
Thanks.

A much quicker turnaround for Gandalf (as I'm not trying to sculpt an exact replica, at scale, of something / someone), Primed and ready for paint.
Here we find him wondering how the Dwarves knew about something called "Christmas".


Yeah, that's "Christmas" in Moria Dwarven. Although the "Ch", "R" and "I" merge into one line, but that's better than missing the "R" that I had previously. Damn that Dyslexia.

Much of the work on this model was in making the box of the sides and rear neat and even with a mixture of card, plasticard and putty.
Still the challenge is in the painting for this one.

I may break out the airbrush to give this a nice even coat of black all around (as the back and sides are just going to be solid black it may as well be neat black), as doing that with a hairy brush is more trouble than it's worth. And I could start the OSL effect with directed white while I'm at it.

One more sculpture to finish and then I can paint all 3 ready for Christmas.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/07 21:41:07


Post by: shasolenzabi


That diorama will be great!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/08 00:47:16


Post by: Camkierhi


Great work. Han looking fantastic, spot on the money. And scene for Galdalf looking awesome. Recommend the air brush for the OSL.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/09 13:15:39


Post by: GrimDork


Wow I'm not sure how I missed this one, just this page alone is rather impressive.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/09 15:45:49


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Shas'.

Thanks Cam'. Airbrush has given me an idea of how the light should fall, but it's going to need hairy brush to get the contrast I want.

Thanks GrimDork. Welcome.
With my model work being split between two blogs, and the way I alternate between them, neither tends to stay at the visible end of the thread-list for long.
If you have a look at the first post of this blog I have links to every finished project, this should cut down on scrolling.

As I said, I got the airbrush out yesterday and gave Gandalf (and Han) a healthy layer (or 5) of black.
I then gave the outer sides of Gandalf a couple of layers of satin black to make it blacker (if you get my meaning) and more finished look.

Now to set about the actual display with more black and various greys.

Han has had a layer of gunmetal to start with.

A dry-brush (or two) of silver, a wash of black and then the lights/buttons on the sides, and he's done.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/09 16:03:35


Post by: SirRamirez


Great work, I'm curious to see what's next!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/09 16:04:54


Post by: Gitsplitta


Both Han and Gandalf are looking great!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/10 21:50:11


Post by: Dr H


Thanks SirRamirez, Next... in terms of models, I'm not sure. But once I've finished these and the tank over in my other blog, I have a practical build I want to do to allow me to make better use of my airbrush; a small extraction booth (because the ones that you can buy don't look much better than I can make, are over-priced, and are too big to fit on my desk). I have fans and a power source already, just need to plan and build a box.

While I mention this, does anyone have suggestions on the "best" filter material to use in an airbrush extraction hood?

Gitsplitta wrote:Both Han and Gandalf are looking great!
Thanks Gits'. More below...

A silver dry-brush on Han and it's just the lights etc. on the sides to do:


And I've been working on the lighting for Gandalf:

This is early in the lighting work, there's more layers to do to bring up the brightness nearer the source, sharper highlights all over, and some shading to show the drop-off of the light.

I went for a green hue to the light to add some colour to the model and to contrast with the blue hue I've added to the shadow.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/11 23:05:49


Post by: Dr H


And more on Gandalf for those of you that lurk at the weekend.



Getting a good photo on him is tricky. The contrast between the light and dark areas is challenging my phone's camera.
In normal, everyday lighting, the whole piece doesn't look quite so light as it does in the photos, but darkening the photos looks unnatural. It'll be better when I set up some neutral background and more even lighting.

The above are all lit from "over the shoulder" as you see from the camera.

I'm quite pleased at how it looks in the last photo though.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/11 23:40:32


Post by: Red Harvest


Gandalf. Nice little character study.

Show a photo or two of your extraction hood plans, so we can have a clue about what sort of filter to suggest. I use a HEPA filter meant for furnaces. (20"x20"x1" HEPA filter and a 20"x20" box fan. Works a charm. A bit loud though.)


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/12 08:15:05


Post by: Camkierhi


Looking stunning bud, OSL effect is coming on nicely.

Interested in booth designs as well, need to do something like it myself.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/12 09:53:50


Post by: inmygravenimage


Love Gandalf, and the green is a good shout. The Carbonite seems a bit shiny? Might just be pic though.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/12 13:49:31


Post by: Dr H


Red Harvest wrote:Gandalf. Nice little character study.
Thanks Red'.

Show a photo or two of your extraction hood plans, so we can have a clue about what sort of filter to suggest. I use a HEPA filter meant for furnaces. (20"x20"x1" HEPA filter and a 20"x20" box fan. Works a charm. A bit loud though.)
I've not drawn up plans myself yet, but the idea is based on these portable airbrush hoods that are all over the internet:

As you see, a collapsible box with a fan at the rear and a filter between.

You can see that the depth of the box and painting area is noted at being 19", which won't fit on my desk as it is, and that doesn't take into account that the hose extends from the rear at least half that again... Also notice that it appears to have a single 120mm fan, and the cheapest I've seen from a quick search is ~£50.

I have a pair of 120mm fans and a 12V plug adaptor that will run them at full speed (being 12V computer fans). More being better?!
But I will have the exit on top/rear of the box, pointing up, and feed that through a similar hose (as it's only a cheap tumble-dryer hose), saving space and spewing fumes out the window.
So the filter is only to prevent the paint from getting on the fans.
I'll probably also fit some white LEDs, but will have clear sides all around for good lighting,
and a front sash to improve airflow, like I am used to on a proper chemical fumehood (but on a hinge to allow freedom of movement / size of items). I can't see that large opening and a single 120mm fan lending itself to a good airflow...

That's about as far as I've got with thinking about it. Once I've finished these models I'll put more thought into the design.
I just saw those online, saw they are too big and too expensive, and cheaply built, and thought "I can do better for less".

Camkierhi wrote:Looking stunning bud, OSL effect is coming on nicely.
Thanks Cam'.

Interested in booth designs as well, need to do something like it myself.
I'll likely be sharing the building on here, so stay tuned.

inmygravenimage wrote:Love Gandalf, and the green is a good shout.
Thanks. Yeah, it needed a touch of colour. You may also see a slight skin-tone to the face and hands. Even with these colours it's still going to be very monochrome in appearance. But then, so was the scene in the film:


The Carbonite seems a bit shiny? Might just be pic though.
From most of the photos I've seen it seemed to have a metallic finish. I'll bow to greater nerd knowledge of the carbonite finish. I could give it a matt varnish to knock back the shine?

There's only a few little touches left on those two, and then I have the final project to paint, and more than I week to go.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/12 14:14:18


Post by: Camkierhi


Han in Carbonite was always a more patina bronze to me, maybe a Sepia wash will do the trick.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/12 16:05:20


Post by: weetyskemian44


That's starting to look really realistic Dr H. Do You use the enamel paints in your airbrush set-up? I bet that would need a hood. I found the lack of suitable ventilation to be a stumbling block to using my air-brush in my pokey flat! I should just sell it to free up cupboard space.


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The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/12 17:37:03


Post by: Dr H


Camkierhi wrote:Han in Carbonite was always a more patina bronze to me, maybe a Sepia wash will do the trick.
Curious. The only pictures I can find where it looks bronze is due to lighting:




Whereas, all the other pictures show it as a grey metal:



Even props/replicas and toys:

Notice the lighting.


weetyskemian44 wrote:That's starting to look really realistic Dr H. Do You use the enamel paints in your airbrush set-up? I bet that would need a hood. I found the lack of suitable ventilation to be a stumbling block to using my air-brush in my pokey flat! I should just sell it to free up cupboard space.

Apologies if you already said, I probably missed it.
Not mentioned it in this blog, I think. I did show my current setup in my other blog:

Yes, I use Enamels. This was the reason for buying a decent airbrush as the rubber seals in the cheap-o one that came with my compressor didn't like the solvents; as a result, that airbrush behaved weird.
At the moment, I have to set up all that above, down in the garage, every time (the only flat surface available is the top of a chest freezer so I can't leave it there). This means I'm less inclined to whip out the AB to paint something.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/13 06:43:18


Post by: weetyskemian44


Bummer - so no quick break halfway through airbrushing for ice cream snacks! It'd be great to have a studio. One day huh.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/26 18:26:46


Post by: Dr H


No, sadly no snacking during air-brushing without prior planning.
It would be great to have more space indeed. One day, as you say.

Happy Boxing day everyone.

Here's this years Christmas presents.

Han Solo Carbonite brick. 1:20th scale.

Pretty pleased with this one. There's a couple of things that are a bit off, but mostly better than I expected.

Gandalf wonders what the dwarf's think about Christmas.

Also pretty pleased with the effect, especially in that last angle. I suppose I can no longer say I have no experience in OSL any more...

The Washing Fairy.
This is an inside joke. Whereby dirty items left lying about disappear and then reappear, clean, folded and warm (which must be leftover energy from the magical cleaning).
The equivalent of a knowing smile to those that do the real work.

This piece had many problems in it's making; the first attempt looked like a rugby player in a tutu (and a male one at that). So I cut it off at the shoulder (keeping the base, washing and arm) and then re-sculpted the fairy from scratch. But I resorted to the kind of clothing that I'm used to sculpting rather than something new I had attempted initially.
I still need to work on my face and hand sculpting work.

I'm planning on picking up one of those wooden pose doll things. Mainly to help me with the initial bulking work; I tend to put too much bulk in and can't carve down enough once I've put the outer layers on. Pictures on the internet are only so good for sculpting work.

Onwards to a new year. Who can tell what it may bring.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/26 21:38:54


Post by: inmygravenimage


Awesome work, especially the fairy!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2016/12/27 23:57:36


Post by: Red Harvest


Uhm, it's the Cleaning Brownies. Fairys, or Faeries, don't clean squat. They are the messiest of the Fey.

Nice colors on the piece.

I have no clues about the hood. With the VOC based stuff, All I can say is get a good mask-- and not just a nuisance dust mask but a proper one. A HEPA filter will catch the paint particles, but the fumes/vapors? Nope.

You may have to widen you search for ideas. Airbrush artists that paint motorcycles use oil based paints.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/03 21:33:24


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven.

 Red Harvest wrote:
Uhm, it's the Cleaning Brownies. Fairys, or Faeries, don't clean squat. They are the messiest of the Fey.
Bah! You say Brownies, I say Beavers... I didn't go to Beavers, I went straight in to Cubs... Wait, what were we talking about...

Though searching for "cleaning brownies" doesn't provide half as many useful pictures as "cleaning fairies". Unless you've just thrown some food down your front.
Those fairies have a strong publicity section.

Nice colors on the piece.
Ta. I wanted it to be colourful as white sheets don't make a very exciting piece.

I have no clues about the hood. With the VOC based stuff, All I can say is get a good mask-- and not just a nuisance dust mask but a proper one. A HEPA filter will catch the paint particles, but the fumes/vapors? Nope.
I plan to have all fumes pumped out the window... maybe I should give the neighbours some masks...

You may have to widen you search for ideas. Airbrush artists that paint motorcycles use oil based paints.
Good idea.

Been AWOL from DDakka, and just getting back to normal operations. Much to catch up on.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/13 17:49:07


Post by: Dr H


Proof of concept.

This means the final product won't look like this.

Disclaimer: If you are inexperienced or unsure around electrical circuits, find someone else to help with teaching you or doing the wiring for you. I'm not responsible if you electrocute yourself following what I show here.

Also, if you are experienced with electrical wiring, be prepared to wince at what I'm about to show.
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Why?
In order to do any airbrushing, I have to carry all my equipment, paints and models out to the garage and set up a temporary arrangement on top of a chest freezer.
There's no heating,
The lighting is poor (I even carry one of my lamps out to be able to see anything),
It's temporary,
And inconvenient.

All this means I tend to avoid using the airbrush I spent good money on.
If I had an extraction hood I could use in my room, I will get much better use out of my airbrush.

But commercial hoods are expensive for what the build quality looks like.
I'm sure I can do better, for less, and it can be designed to fit my unique workspace.

This is the start of me showing you that I can (or can't) deliver on this...

The parts:
The main commercial version that you'll find has a single 120mm fan, like that you would find in a computer.
I just so happen to have a couple (well, more than a couple, but 2 will do) of 120mm PC fans spare.
2 being better than 1, and not just because:
Either, they will move more air = better.
Or, they will be quieter for the same quantity of air = better.

I also happen to have a 12V power supply adaptor laying about. Where it came from, what did it originally power? I don't know. It was in my bag of wires (the fans were in my other bag of PC-related wires and things).

Fans, check.
Power, check.
But I can't just plug them straight in, I need a switch. Cue another rummage...

I find a power switch from a broken (and long disassembled) PSU. It's a switch, it goes "on" and "off", that'll do.
It has an extra wire that I don't need; something to do with 220V to 12V power supply earthing, but is irrelevant to my 12V to 12V setup. (note the "ignore this wire" in the picture below)

This is what they look like:


The design:
The commercial hood has the fan and hose pointing straight out the back of the box. This is not useful for my desk setup, so I'm moving the hose attachment to the top of the box.
I plan on using a tumble-drier vent hose to pipe my fumes out the window and these come in a standard 100mm / 4inch diameter.

Therefore, I need to fit my 2 120mm fans to one 100mm hole.
There are 2 options for this;
1. is to mount the fans flat to the top of the hood box and build a sloped adaptor (imagine a pyramid cross-section) to bring ~250mm to 100mm.
2. is to mount the fans in a "V" shape either side of the 100mm hole. (no need to imagine this, see below)

Option 1 would be good to maximise the space inside the hood, but for my setup I want to keep the maximum height of the hood to a certain value (being 300mm). From some drawings and measurements I found that option 2 would be easier to accomplish, neater on the outside, and doesn't lose out on interior hood space to option 1.

With all the planning and drawings and measurements done, I set about some old cardboard box (that until now was my airbrush accessories container and over-spray catcher) and built the below to test the airflow.


Success! I feel.
Considering that this is loosely taped together cardboard (with many leaks) I get a modest airflow.

Notes on the design:
The front half of the top will be angled upwards to give a larger space for tall objects, and will have a flap to close the opening for better airflow if needed.

The filters we have been discussing, will fit in between the bottom edge of the front of the fan box (the white part) to the rear corner of the painting area; this will maximise the painting area inside the box (I have limited depth to work with also).

The whole front half of the box will be transparent to aid lighting and visibility (together with some LED strips inside, maybe).

I'm off to think more about the expanding front half...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/13 18:12:01


Post by: Gitsplitta


Looks promising mate.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/14 16:31:11


Post by: shasolenzabi


ah, another one goes airbrush, I feel old fashioned using brushes of the old style.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/14 22:55:25


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits', we shall see how it turns out. As with all my projects, I'm attempting to solve all possible problems before starting any building or spending any money.

Shas': I've had an airbrush for quite a while now, but it doesn't get much use; so far only the occasional prime and basecoat.

Below is the concept for the expandable spray area/volume.

Again, this entire front half will be clear plastic (looking like Acrylic is the best option).

This will allow me to adjust the flow characteristics of the hood and accommodate larger model/stands/etc.
Like this, the internal height can vary from ~170mm up to ~220mm at the peak, and the front opening can vary from ~70mm to ~220mm. Maybe more if I extend those side pieces.



I'll probably use pegs to set the height, simple is best (says the person designing an adaptable extraction hood).

I've looked up filters, hoses and clear plastic sheets, next is to look into hinges...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/16 22:12:13


Post by: Dr H


I have hinges. Also found a short length of 4" hose that has confirmed my height theory (so no drastic change in plans), and a long length of 3" hose that allowed me to test the extraction properties of this design...

...it worked.
I could spray smelly white spirit into the hood, as I would for airbrushing a model, and I didn't choke on the fumes, couldn't smell a whiff.
I also didn't blow myself up as the solvent fumes passed through the PC fans.

I've ordered the filters (cheap test cases), a 2m length of 4" hose, and the acrylic for the front half of the box.

In the mean time, I've drawn up the design a bit better than some biro scrawls on a notepad. Thought I'd share for those interested.

You'll notice some + or - T(x) in some measurements, this is (or will be) to take account of the thickness of adjoining pieces. It's only by drawing up the design like this that I could decide where these + and -'s were going.

I just need to find some wood to use for the rear section and then I'll know what these variables will be.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/19 20:20:27


Post by: Dr H


A search of the garage turned up some hardboard that is apparently 3 decades old. high time it got some use then...


I'll find some nice screws tomorrow and countersink the holes. This is just so I can get an idea of how it's going together and allow me to see how the fans might be mounted...

There's the angled block at the back that the fans will screw into and the angled pieces at the front that they should rest on.

The back panel of the box will remain removable to aid service of the fans, but any and all gaps around them and the rest of the box will be sealed with hot glue.

Once the acrylic turns up I'll be able to build the front half (that should fit this half perfectly).
And I need to start thinking about how the filter will be mounted... depends on what I think of the filter when that turns up.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/20 17:29:49


Post by: Dr H


Re-screwed and fans in, wired up and switch installed.


Nice and neat, outside.
Total mess, inside.

I'll probably rotate the fans 90deg and run the wired behind the short front wall.
And I'll tidy up the mess of wires... might even hide them behind an enclosure too.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/21 03:44:13


Post by: dsteingass


THAT is looking sharp! A word of advice, caulk the wood joints. They leak air. Try to control the airflow. That will serve you well for a long time!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/21 10:04:39


Post by: Red Harvest


Flathead screws? Doc, please, come into the 21st century already.

Also, what Dave said about sealing the joints, but reinforce them too. You could always lap strips of the hardboard onto it to make a frame effect.

Did you cut that hardboard without any kind of fence? It looks that way.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/21 14:31:02


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Dave, Red'.

Gaps will be sealed up at the end when I'm sure that I don't need to dismantle anything.

Reinforcement will also happen as it starts to become more permanent in it's construction, and where it appears that it needs it.

I'm using as many things as possible that I can find in the garage (hence 30 year old wood) to save on money.
But for the length I required, the flathead screws were the best option, all our phillips-heads and pozidrives were too long.
Why go through the bother of going and buying some when we have boxes of perfectly good screws.

Anyway, in a world with Trump and Brexit, we're all going backwards; more like the 19th century than 21st. (this is about as political as I can get, I'm not politically minded)

Red Harvest wrote:Did you cut that hardboard without any kind of fence? It looks that way.
There's only 2 types of "fence" than come to mind; one surrounds an area of land and the other buys stolen goods. I didn't use either for this.
I used a jigsaw-alike thing (so far out of my depth with woodworking); Black&Decker scorpion
Spoiler:


I now have the acrylic I need and can look at how best to cut this up... Not nearly as much room for error with this as the wood had.

Chop Chop.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/21 18:30:57


Post by: Ruglud


I think Red may be referring to a table saw 'fence' ? I'm no woodwork expert, but it's another use of the term... http://www.instructables.com/id/Do-it-yourself-Table-Saw-Fence/

I've always wanted a good table saw - one day maybe... Need to get a good quality pillar drill first...

Really impressive work though. It's excellent to see all your steps in this build


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/23 17:28:28


Post by: Dr H


Yeah, I assumed it was something to allow cleaner cuts as mine are quite rough in places; sanding or ignoring will solve these.

A table saw would have made much of this much easier, but I have to make do without. We do have a couple of circular saws, one is "freehand" and the other is for mitre cuts; both are a bit... brutal... for this stuff. I dunno, don't take woodworking advice from me.

Continuing with "how not to build a wooden structure":

I can report that acrylic can be "cut" with the score 'n' snap technique (the internet tells me up to 6mm thickness) and this worked well on my 3mm perspex up to 400mm length "cuts".
Was a very "clench and go" moment for the first snap.

Here's a few pictures to show where I am now.

The wiring has been tidied.
Some of the wooden joints have been glued/sealed.
Various edges have been straightened with a combination of cutting/sawing/sanding.

It turns out that the hardboard is the same thickness as the acrylic, so my cunning overlapping plan is out.
Part one of the new plan (which isn't really a plan, I'm attempting to make it up as I go), is the corner braces at the bottom that will hold the two halves of the side walls straight with each other and the baseboard.

Hinges have been added to the top ready to attach the acrylic "roof", but that will wait until I bite the "drilling acrylic" bullet.

Tank for scale.

And what's that at the back?
As similar as it may appear to the flooring that Guildenstern used for her current LoER contest entry, I actually came across this elsewhere on the internet as part of someone's filter solution for their airbrush hood.
I needed something to "mount" my filters against, and this should do the trick.

For those unaware, this is strips of cardboard box, glued on top of each other to give a mesh.
Fairly strong, rigid and good airflow.



Next, is to tidy the edge of that filter solution (thin card glued on very permanently), and mount it in the box.
Then it'll be a combination of attaching it all to the baseboard and attaching the acrylic parts.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/23 18:22:09


Post by: Red Harvest


Yeah, a woodworking fence, also called a cutting guide. Do you have something to serve as a straight edge, and a pair of C-clamps? ( or G-Clamps? They are apparently called that in places.) You could use them to make a cutting guide for the jigsaw. Similar to using a straight edge to cut anything else.

Drilling Acrylic? Ah, slow drill speed, very slow. otherwise the plastic melts-- it may well anyway, but less messy with a slower drill speed, and gentle pressure to avoid cracking.

The plexiglas can be cut too. A circular saw will cut it-- when used with a cutting guide. I would not use a jigsaw. Plexiglas can also be filed and planed.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/24 13:23:20


Post by: dsteingass


That perspex stuff looks interesting! It takes a lifetime of experience to cut straight freehanded with an electric saw. I think this looks very nice.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/24 23:41:30


Post by: Dr H


Red Harvest wrote:Yeah, a woodworking fence, also called a cutting guide. Do you have something to serve as a straight edge, and a pair of C-clamps? ( or G-Clamps? They are apparently called that in places.) You could use them to make a cutting guide for the jigsaw. Similar to using a straight edge to cut anything else.
Yeah, it's a very good point. I can't saw a straight line to save my life... and yet I keep on trying.

Drilling Acrylic? Ah, slow drill speed, very slow. otherwise the plastic melts-- it may well anyway, but less messy with a slower drill speed, and gentle pressure to avoid cracking.
Indeed. I'm planning on using a hand-drill and taking it very carefully (for the first hole or two and then getting impatient, speeding up, cracking it and swearing).

The plexiglas can be cut too. A circular saw will cut it-- when used with a cutting guide. I would not use a jigsaw. Plexiglas can also be filed and planed.
That's what I found in the internet, but due to my aforementioned sawing ability, I went for score 'n' snap. I even used a ruler!

dsteingass wrote:That perspex stuff looks interesting!
It will look better when the protective covers are off. Clearer than glass. See below.

It takes a lifetime of experience to cut straight freehanded with an electric saw. I think this looks very nice.
Good to hear. I should start using straight edges when sawing.
Thanks.

Progress:
The cardboard filter mesh has had it's surrounding edges neatened up with some thick paper.
That has been glued in and sealed all around.
The hose has been attached with Duck Duct tape on the inside.
The top has been glued to the baseboard.
Strips of wood added to the sides to stiffen the baseboard and give something more to glue the acrylic sides to.
And the acrylic sides have been glued on.


Next; Attaching the top.
Need to adapt it's length (a little too long in spite of all my measuring),
Drill holes,
Mount the front flap also,
Start thinking about the side pieces that keep the hood "sealed" when the top is raised...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/25 09:33:20


Post by: Red Harvest


 Dr H wrote:
Yeah, it's a very good point. I can't saw a straight line to save my life... and yet I keep on trying.

Nobody can, that's why we used fences/guides Well, not entirely true, I can saw a perfectly straight line with a gent's saw, or a dovetail saw, or a back saw, or a crosscut saw, or a... But then I've been doing it for a very long time-- not quite a lifetime, but I did get my first saw when I was 5 years old. Still have it too . For power saws, always use a guide. No reason not to. I still have trouble at times with Japanese saws. Those you pull rather than push to cut. They give much finer cuts --thinner kerfs-- due to their thinner blades.

Final plexiglas note. Make sure the plexiglas is solidly supported underneath the bit, and cannot flex.

You've got a fine looking extractor there. Now, if you test it with water through the airbrush, what effect will that have on the cardboard filter mesh? Or did you answer that and I missed it. Been a rough few days for me.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/26 21:12:00


Post by: Dr H


 Red Harvest wrote:
 Dr H wrote:
Yeah, it's a very good point. I can't saw a straight line to save my life... and yet I keep on trying.

Nobody can, that's why we used fences/guides Well, not entirely true, I can saw a perfectly straight line with a gent's saw, or a dovetail saw, or a back saw, or a crosscut saw, or a... But then I've been doing it for a very long time-- not quite a lifetime, but I did get my first saw when I was 5 years old. Still have it too . For power saws, always use a guide. No reason not to. I still have trouble at times with Japanese saws. Those you pull rather than push to cut. They give much finer cuts --thinner kerfs-- due to their thinner blades.
Point taken.
It also seems that even when I get a straight line, it's never at the right angle.

This is why I like working at scale, in plastic; minor errors can be hid, large errors are a piece of sandpaper (although I now have some nice files) away from correct.

Final plexiglas note. Make sure the plexiglas is solidly supported underneath the bit, and cannot flex.
Yarp. Also saw that note. Prevents chipping when the bit goes through the last of the plastic. Thanks.

You've got a fine looking extractor there. Now, if you test it with water through the airbrush, what effect will that have on the cardboard filter mesh? Or did you answer that and I missed it. Been a rough few days for me.
Thanks. I have not answered that question as I have not asked that question myself. I don't intend to soak the cardboard (intent does not always produce the results we want through) so it shouldn't be a problem...

Bare in mind that I found this being used in an existing extraction hood (on the internet, so can't possibly be wrong).

If it does turn out to be a problem it's easy enough to replace with new or with metal mesh.

Hope you get over the roughness.

Progress:
Drilling was a success.
I used a hand drill, took my time (didn't get impatient and break anything), and used the weight of the (cast metal) drill as the only force.
Given a choice of wood or metal (and masonry) bits, the metal bits did the job. Started with 1.5mm bit and followed that (for each hole) with 2mm and then 3.3mm with a bit of wiggling to make the hole large enough for the screws without them putting any unnecessary pressure on the acrylic.

The current screw-through-acrylic-into-wood set up is temporary until I find myself in a position to pick up some nuts and bolts that'll fit.

I dremel-ed the ends off the far too long screws, because if I didn't I'd stab myself on them at a later date.

I've now cut the side pieces that you can see laying inside the hood. These have now been glued on to the lid.

I've added furry draft excluders at the top of each side to seal against the side pieces.

Here's where it's at:


Current injury tally:
Cut to left index finger, skin deep, no blood, from B&D workmate.
Cut to left thumb, a little blood, 1cm long, from wood drill bit (probably jealous of the metal bits getting all the hot acrylic action).
Cuts to right index finger, one with blood, from scalpel's new blade.
Burnt in marks of screw thread to left thumb, index and middle fingers, Turns out that dremel-ing metal screws makes them pretty hot (the scientist in me had to check...twice).
...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/26 21:36:56


Post by: inmygravenimage


Impressive tally of injuries, required blood sacrifice for awesome construction efforts complete!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/28 14:47:12


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven. And all those between the last two updates. No new injuries on the final stretch though.

DONE! for now...

There is a list of things that I will/may add over time, through use. But it's good enough to use now.

I know you've all been waiting for it to be finished before commenting, so now you can.


With the movable lid and front flap, the opening can range from ~9cm (3.5") to 28cm (11inches). I'll probably use it in the 17cm (6.5") lid-down configuration (3rd pic) mainly.
And with an internal width of 39cm (15inches).

Airflow isn't mind-blowing, but can cope (even fully open) with anything up to an airbrush at full blast (on a reasonable model-painting pressure) for a few seconds... For good results, you shouldn't really be using the airbrush at full blast for long anyway as that leads to spidering and runs.

There are plans to add:
A turn-table type device (as that's better than painting my hand each time I paint a model).

More permanent height adjustment fixing solution (the lengths of foamboard are therefore temporary).

Maybe an internal shelf above the filter for... things...

Better filter attachment solution (current filter seems to restrict the air flow quite a bit, but will test when I actually paint something and maybe try a few more different filters and solve this when I've found the "best" option).

Some kind of storage solution for the hose and power cable/adaptor.

And anything else I find through usage.

Now to find something to paint...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/30 01:19:11


Post by: Camkierhi


Very interesting and informative, very curious about the filter. Sounds like it will give you room to do work, now you just need something to paint?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/30 14:22:48


Post by: Gitsplitta


That's a really impressive achievement Dr H. I love the big tube coming out of it... looks like it's from the movie "Brazil".


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/01/30 21:56:50


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Cam'. The current filter to test is the cheapest oven grease filter I could find. It has the stiffness of paper and the feel of fabric. But it's denser than I expected, what I really want is something looser and fluffier... maybe. Testing will commence soon.

First, I have to fight off an evil virus that is threatening to drown me in my own bodily fluids (otherwise known as a cold). Not had the motivation to do anything for the past two days. At least the sore throat has gone.

Thanks Gits'. They probably used the same type of tubing in the film and just painted it silver.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/12 22:37:57


Post by: Dr H


These don't have names yet, but the smaller is becoming a barricade/shield and the other is intended to be a crash of some vehicle (as yet unknown); so, "shield" and "crash"...

In an effort to produce something more relevant to you lot here on DDakka, I present the start of some gaming terrain.

Keeping them small for ease of postage/storage and usability.
And I intend them to be usable pieces of terrain for gaming and less of a display diorama that my work often tends towards...

That said, I'll likely end up detailing them to my usual fine level. I just can't help it, OK...
There's already some "rope" lashings on the woodwork.

I'm also trying to keep in mind the regular handling that gaming terrain will endure. So less fiddly bits that can be knocked off, etc.

Without further musings...

...the story so far:

The bases are CDs.
The larger base is 2 CDs with ~1/3rd broken off and glued together with the other third for overlapping support.

Both bases were covered with a tissue/PVA layer (or 3).

The "walls" are some leftover cardboard box pieces (from the extraction hood concept), that have been attached to the bases and filled/coated with varying quantities of PVA, plaster and tissue/PVA to make them as solid a single piece as possible.

This brings us to the first photo here:


Photos 3 and 4: The "ground" was covered with my usual mixture of dried paint.
Crash also received some flooring using some of my own sprue (I have loads of this spare from my various mis-casts) and more cardboard (that I'm unsure of, but it should be fine once dirtied and painted) for some planks.
The black area (water filter carbon grains) is where the crashed... something... will be. Thinking of a futuristic civilian car-type thing, which may end up a UFO...

The rest of the photos show the frame I've constructed on the "shield" piece; this will receive various junk, metal, wood, cloth, etc. to cover it and create a hidden corner for blocking LoS.
Should be enough space there for even the most "heroic" of models.

"not so heroic" Number 6 for scale.

That frame is also pinned in all the important places so that it should be solid enough to be handled too.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/12 22:40:48


Post by: inmygravenimage


Nice stuff dude. Love the open framework especially.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/13 22:13:50


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven, wow you got in before I'd changed the title.

I've been pulling out odd bits and pieces to use and I've been having flashbacks to my junk pile:


This shows the stages I go through when building up something like this.


It won't be quite so rusty as the junk pile, but it will have rust and flaky paint and more variety in colour.

The hole on one side will become a raised shooting point, just for a bit of flavour. Sandbags and the like.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/13 23:06:22


Post by: dsteingass


Love the gear bitz.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/13 23:19:24


Post by: Camkierhi


Looking good, nice frame work, and the bits add a nice variety, could be used in many systems.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/13 23:21:49


Post by: Red Harvest


Looks like someone dismantled an old mechanical timer or clock. I've got bits just like those. It's a cool looking piece.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/14 22:20:59


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Dave. Yeah, I have quite a few gears about. They are good for showing post-industrial landscapes; all the machines are broken and the bits are only good for barricades.

Thanks Cam'. Variety is key to avoid things being recognised.

Speaking of recognising bits... Yes, Red', I have dismantled a couple of AA-battery clocks. While the small internal bits are easy to fit into a model, the larger shell pieces are trickier.

Next stage of building:


I'm about to add some rivets and welds to certain areas.

While I go about this, I have a question to those of you that actually play these games:

As I mentioned, the hole in the one wall is intended to be a firing point.
You will notice that Number 6 there, is a bit short to see out.
This means it requires a platform for him to stand on...

Building the platform and a step for people the climb up is not a problem, and I can make them large enough for a model to stand on:


What I want to know from my game-playing friends here on DDakka is;
a) Would anyone make use of the firing point if it was set up like this? (lesser cover-save, and only 2 models are going to be able to shoot)
2) Would the majority prefer there to not be a platform and be able to hide a model for better cover-saves? (a simple LoS blocker)
3) This setup would limit the positioning of larger models within the cover, is that a problem? (I've seen people turning large models sideways to fit into a piece of terrain, which tells me the cover is more important than "realism")

I can easily make a broken version of the platform that will sit flat maintaining the firing point (from past usage, and realism/storytelling), and allowing models to get their cover-saves.
Thoughts?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/15 19:20:59


Post by: shasolenzabi


That piece of terrain looks so very Fallout-like or even Orky


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/16 15:13:18


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Shas'. It's a shame we can't easily do something like this in FO4, I'd have all kinds of barricades up... Might give it a go though...

Anyway, while I wait to see if I get any input on the above terrain issue, I've moved on to the other piece.

As you will remember, this is intended to be a crashed "something".
Therefore, I started collecting bits to make the something and find out what it's going to be.

The initial plan was some kind of car or wheeled vehicle, so I went searching for wheels... and found my box of "round, wheel-like objects" that mainly consists of the screw-top pieces of soap dispensers. I found 4 identical ones and added them to a few interesting shapes I pulled from some other boxes.

Below you see the "car" go from the laid out pieces to attaching wheels, building the shape and creating a framework to keep it together/rigid.

Turns out that whatever plastic they use for these soap dispensers, it's highly resistant to all forms of glue; so I had to pin it to pieces of sprue so that I could attach them.

I'm now working on filling in the gaps in this framework and then I can form it's final shape, add details and incorporate it into the ruin...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/16 21:40:43


Post by: Cleatus


The building/ruin is looking great, and I'm intrigued to see how the car turns out.

Not sure if it helps you now, but I've found this stuff to be useful when trying to bond different types of plastic together:
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/sg_plstc/overview/Loctite-Plastics-Bonding-System.htm


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/16 22:05:42


Post by: inmygravenimage


I like the firing point. BMG has very specific cover and obstacle rules, along with the fact the models are considered to be volumetric. So yeah, works for me


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/16 23:34:52


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Cleatus. The car appears to be turning into some kind of mini-van. Which is fine; I wanted "civilian" and that's how it's going.

Ta. I'll look into it. I was being impatient and just wanted them tacked on so that I could move on and build the shape. I probably could have used 5min epoxy, but that would take too long... so I spent ~15mins doing all the drilling and pinning.

They are now solidly attached with some PVA/plaster mix. Which was also required for filling the holes in their centres.

Thanks Graven. How about other games? I know you've played a few. I'd like to get a good feeling for how people like their terrain to be used; the more I know, the better the terrain I'll make.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/17 00:42:34


Post by: dsteingass


In most gaming systems I've played, Linear terrain like this will get used most often. Any kind of hard cover that troops can get behind and fire over. Then again, I don't play very often.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/17 02:17:20


Post by: shasolenzabi


Here is why I never use cars for terrain to fore from.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/17 14:54:50


Post by: Dr H


Cheers Dave. I think I'm going to keep the platform; no one has said it's a bad idea.

dsteingass wrote:...Then again, I don't play very often.
Still more often than me.

Shas': I'm fairly sure one of my mods has non-exploding cars...

Here's the next stages on this car:
Building up the shape with layers and shapes of cardboard and tissue/PVA.


Next I can add details:
door/window frames,
wheel arches,
etc.

Smooth out the shape and give it some dents (it's crashed into a building after all...).


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/18 03:40:42


Post by: dsteingass


 Dr H wrote:

Shas': I'm fairly sure one of my mods has non-exploding cars... .


Blasphemy.....

OOoh plenty of room for an..advertisement of sorts...and weathering


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/18 21:07:55


Post by: Dr H


 dsteingass wrote:
 Dr H wrote:

Shas': I'm fairly sure one of my mods has non-exploding cars... .


Blasphemy.....

But if I was going to use a car as part of a wall or building, I'd be sure to remove the engine and fuel tank.

OOoh plenty of room for an..advertisement of sorts...and weathering
Ja, indeed. and graffiti.

Progress on both:

Shield has received some sandbags and some scattered bits.
And in a moment of pure "I learnt'd somefink" I remembered to not glue the platform on; thus making painting that much easier.


Crash has now had some putty work and smooth card to give it the final shape and some details (more still to do).




The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/19 22:06:50


Post by: Wirecat


I am a bit late to the show, but let me say a big Thank You for these notes on airbrushing setup! Quite a lot of things to think over, and it is always easier to follow someones steps in that. Thanks!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/19 22:30:18


Post by: Dr H


No problem, Wirecat. Glad to hear it helps.

Once these 2 terrain pieces are built I can actually make use of the extraction hood.

Smoothing and details added to the van:


I think that's enough on the van and I can now install it into the building and add rubble...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/19 22:33:04


Post by: inmygravenimage


I can't help but think I wish you'd made a Jonny Cab to blow up...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/19 22:50:04


Post by: Dr H


 inmygravenimage wrote:
I can't help but think I wish you'd made a Jonny Cab to blow up...

Sadly that'd require windows all round, and that's more work than I want to put in at this stage.
Maybe I can fit in a reference somehow... Johnny Van, Johnny Deliveries...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/19 23:36:29


Post by: Warboss_Waaazag


I love the wheels on that vehicle. Excellent use of random detritus.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/20 00:02:57


Post by: Ruglud


I can't help but visualise a big rocket on the back of the vehicle, ala Mad Max... Great progress though, enjoying the step by steps...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Statue side project / Now Painting: none. @ 2017/02/22 15:51:40


Post by: Dr H


Warboss_Waaazag wrote:I love the wheels on that vehicle. Excellent use of random detritus.
Thanks 'boss. Good to see you back. Yeah, I'm heading into a push to use some of the many "that'll be useful one day" items that I've collected.
Considering how chunky the tires are on "official" models, such as GW's, things like these and bottle-tops are ideal for wheels.

Thanks Ruglud. Good to hear.

Onwards...
The shield has received some cloth.
Started with some tissue/PVA to get a feel for where and how it'd hang, and then went over that with putty to make it rugged enough for handling.

Looks more like slime in yellow at the moment, will hopefully look better once painted.

Crash has had it's rubble added.
Started with cardboard off-cuts, added some polyfilla, and then a final layer of my usual dried paint.
And a couple of pieces of hardboard for internal wall posts/doorframe/etc.


Now to add the final small details to finish these off; give them a story / life / history.

One question:
Should I board up the remaining window in the crash piece? For gameplay purposes.
As it is, you could hide a squad behind it, but line of sight could be drawn through the gap. Does your local meta prefer simple LoS blocking terrain with no ambiguity, or more complex pieces where you have to think about gaps and angles of view?