Looks like the green knight legs are from the dragon king, and with the silk skirt i wonder if this was intially supposed to require even more to craft.

 RiTides wrote:

Dropping that Resin Watcher to just have expansions would put you at $301 . It's a nice round number, just $1 over Herald of Death. Just saying

You guys are sure in heavy on this game! I'm going to watch that second gameplay video now and see what it looks like.

Oh, I know. And I'm already getting 2 plastic Watchers, as well, but I like the idea of getting one of the nice, clean, resin pieces with the CoA and the art card. This will be the second KD resin I've bought, so I figured it would be really cool to get one of the 2 collector's pieces available during the campaign!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I do like the look of them

and I'm interested Adam decided to go the mono-pose route with them

(wonder if it's to help speed up casting as he said the production pipeline was looking a bit overstuffed)

now do I settle for just the free set or gamble I can cut the heads free well enough to mix into the armour kit minis..... decisions. decisions (I suspect there will be enough extra I can't afford it)

I would be vary conservative in what can reasonably be converted: it looks like these are going to be very intricate models, with a lot of organic curves and blades. The great curse of the most sculptural miniatures... they lose their interchangeability.

grefven wrote:
@Orlando: You better not get a 2nd set, because you want to save that money to the next stretch goal.

I suspect you're right, i do suspect you're right!

Well, with the KS exclusive Messanger of Courage and the new Green Knight Armor that requries the Dung Beetle Knight, I'm dropping Spidicules in favor of those two. Bye bye, Spidey! I kinda liked you, but I'll live

Not to distract from the main topic of discussion too much, but I have a question for people with more veteran knowledge on Kickstarter as a whole.

Amazon Payments keeps a log of the payments made. I have $86 allocated to this Kickstarter project, and it shows on Amazon Payments that the money is allocated but not yet withdrawn.
However, recently, I upped my pledge from $86 to $201 (due to extras), but I was not required to sign into Amazon Payments this time. Additionally, Amazon Payments is still sitting on the original $86 I pledged.

How do I up my Amazon Payments allocation? Must I do this manually? Will I have a chance to do this when the kickstarter is over? Can I use Paypal for anything?

Thanks Dakkanauts!

@Absolutinis: That's wierd. I've always had to logon to Amazon each time I increased my pledge (not when decreasing, though).

Absolutionis did you pledge more than $201 on KD:M at any point and then come back down to $86 if you had a pledge higher than $201 Amazon payments stores the highest amount you authorised and you can change freely under that maximum value without further updating your payment authorisation you only need to reauthorise if you exceed your previous maximum. Also it will only charge the final pledge total you enter regardless of how high you authorised.

Hmm, the only time I don't have to authorize a pledge increase is if I had previously authorized that number or higher. Basically, it reserves the highest authorization you've given them for the duration of the campaign, so if you lower it, you can go back up without having to give your permission again.

EDIT: Ninja'd by DaveC!

I'm sitting on $201 Kickstarter and $86 Amazon payments. I guess this is an anomaly and should be fixed.

Oddly enough, trying to raise to 202 temporarily requires a login. I'll get this fixed...

Thanks all for the help.

Can't find the text right now, but wasn't there mention of a Paypal option as well?

I can't add to what DaveC and Recruittons said

But to be safe just re-do your pledge (t's probably a glitch after all)

I'll also add that my current pledge of $336 is still "in progress" even though I changed it and then tried to set it twice more after that, I'm a little worried that I will be stuck with only $301 instead of the full pledge I want now...

I just thought of something funny. With the high challenge level of this game, and lots of bad luck, all your survivors might end up dead in the first monster encounter, never reaching the Settlement. I think I'm going to like this game.

 Alpharius wrote:
That Green Knight armor will be hard to craft - I hope it is 'worth it' in game!

There's talk of house-ruling some of the requirements away.

For those that are considering the Soda Pop special pinup, the following was posted in the comments section of the Relic Knights update:

SPM_Deke about 15 hours ago

As a cross post from the KD comments section:

For those of you wondering which faction this Darkspace Candy version will work for in Relic Knights; we're currently leaning towards Noh Empire, as a captured slave forced to battle for them. The rules are in progress though, so feel free to offer suggestions.

Quick question lads: I'm trying to cut my order down and I'm looking for stuff that is either a really good deal or won't be available post-KS. I have the Dragon King, Soda Pop and Messenger chicks and I'm thinking of adding in Nico but if she will be available normally I'm not that pushed. As it stands I'm at €180 thanks to jumping in with 2 buddies to keep shipping costs down.

I'm really tempted to get the King set (King, Scribe and 2 Hunters is about $100) but then I'm cracking €200 and risking the wrath of the missus. Any help is appreciated.

Well, while proportionally the dragon king is one of the best deals, the actual discount is only average compared to the other big kits, so if you need to drop something, that's what I'd leave out.

Adam & Anna Explorers of Death are KS exclusive (and included in survivor level pledges in plastic)

the 'Bulk' armour kit deals of 1 kit for $25 or 5 for $50 are KS exclusive (although the kits will be available with the game/appropriate expansion)

Candy & Cola and The Messenger of Courage are not going to go on general sale but will probably pop up at conventions

Nico is going to be tricky to get post KS as she won't go on general release (although she may pop up again at Xmas at the KD webstore and CMON)

All the pinups and other expansions should be available after the KS (although at the moment it seems they may only get limited distribution to retailers already stocking KD products and selected shops Adam can deal with personally)

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Well, while proportionally the dragon king is one of the best deals, the actual discount is only average compared to the other big kits, so if you need to drop something, that's what I'd leave out.

What do you mean by only average? It's a $60 kit going for $30 compared to $40-45 for the others so that looks pretty sweet. Or am I missing something?

Edit: Thanks for the post Orlando - I'm thinking that if something will be hard to get in the States post-KS then it'll be nigh-impossible to get outside the States.

Dragon is $30/60--->$30 off
Gorm is $40/78--->$38 off
SunStalker is $45/70-->$25 off
Spi...etc is $40/65--->$25 off

the dragon is right in the middle of the monster/armor combos, regarding how much actual discount it has vs. retail, so it's not very urgent

@SpiralingC: Thanks for that, man.

I was going to pledge for the Gorm but it was the first thing I cut as I'm not entirely sold on the model. He's like Marmite - you either love him or hate him. The Sunstalker is the same and Spidey loses out as the other sets have more cards and expand things more but I've no problem getting him at a later date even at a higher price. As I've said, I'm in with 2 buddies so I can get Manhunter and Lion Knight at a huge discount now so that makes up for it.

NP, Stormy!

Personally, due to my budget, I'm only getting one armor-monster combo, so I'm picking up the Sunstalker, because it's got my favorite armor style.

Re: the Gorm, I think it's fine, but (as above) think the Sunstalker's got the coolest armor and the spider has the coolest monster, so, yeah, maybe some day if I get tired of the KD pieces I have, but there's a long queue of cool minis...

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Dragon is $30/60--->$30 off
Gorm is $40/78--->$38 off
SunStalker is $45/70-->$25 off
Spi...etc is $40/65--->$25 off

the dragon is right in the middle of the monster/armor combos, regarding how much actual discount it has vs. retail, so it's not very urgent

where did you get your rrps?

Gorm 40/60 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster/posts/364105
Making the dragon the best saving, unless i missed something.

With gorm you get the pinup rather than the human form dragon king, i guess if all dragon king expansions come with this on release then gorm is the best value though.

Yep, was referencing the pinup, and I think it was at least implied that the dragon king set would include the human form?

It wasn't just implied, it was flat-out stated.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Yep, was referencing the pinup, and I think it was at least implied that the dragon king set would include the human form?

not just implied, the update that added it states it's added to the expansion.

Don't forget the human form of the dragon got added by a later stretch goal, not sure if that's included in the $60 MSRP number that was listed originally.

Edit: Whoops, ninja'ed twice

OK, I've decided to drop out of this one. A combination of the reasons I noted earlier and the fact that the game as displayed doesn't really appeal to me - I already have MMOs and Console games for this "style" of game in SP and MP where the CPU takes care of the bookwork. I'm also turned off a bit by the "limited" nature of the armour kits if you don't buy them now - especially for a "Necromunda" style game that seems to be all about building and rebuilding your models. Making them limited makes no sense to me. Above all is the cost though - I can ignore a game I'm not that interested in if the models are good enough and well priced enough, especially if I can also see them doing multi-game use (like Sedition Wars). The scale difference here puts that out. Survivor seems to have been bumped by the $300 level.

Ultimately though, since we're looking at $2-500 kind of money for a game a year away, I'm going to buy a dishwasher for my new house instead. If there are any of these I really like in a year's time, I can pick them up individually...

I'm going to drop out of my
Pledge $140 - Black Friday Launch Special Round 6! - Survivor

at 2am GMT (1hr from now) - hope another Dakka-ite can grab it and save a couple of dollars!

 scipio.au wrote:
Pledge $140 - Black Friday Launch Special Round 6! - Survivor

at 2am GMT (1hr from now) - hope another Dakka-ite can grab it and save a couple of dollars!

Really nice of you to make a notice here on Dakka. I also hope a member from here can get it.

Just dropped it - good luck guys

Think I missed it :( was refreshing constantly from 01:57 :(

 scipio.au wrote:
OK, I've decided to drop out of this one.

*feigns surprise*

 scipio.au wrote:


Ultimately though, since we're looking at $2-500 kind of money for a game a year away, I'm going to buy a dishwasher for my new house instead. If there are any of these I really like in a year's time, I can pick them up individually...

Buying a dishwasher?? Don't you have a wife ;-).

I keeeeeed. I keeeeeeeed.

At least that particular rain cloud will be moving on now!

Closing in on $1.3M - I hope it isn't something I want...!


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Talk about picking up steam!




I know I'd appreciate another bonus to either Savior or Herald at this point...

 cincydooley wrote:

 scipio.au wrote:


Ultimately though, since we're looking at $2-500 kind of money for a game a year away, I'm going to buy a dishwasher for my new house instead. If there are any of these I really like in a year's time, I can pick them up individually...

Buying a dishwasher?? Don't you have a wife ;-).

I keeeeeed. I keeeeeeeed.

In my house, it's the opposite

It is a point, though I know it's not deterring many here! (about spending 2-500 a year in advance for a board game).

This looks to eclipse 1.5K easily!


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Err.. 1.5M, that is

I MI just paid 2K for my wife's grad school. She'll deal. ;-).

 Alpharius wrote:
At least that particular rain cloud will be moving on now!

I know I'd appreciate another bonus to either Savior or Herald at this point...

Adam's pretty much already said "no more freebies" with the $1.2m Green Armour kits (looks like 2 figures, but might be 4 based on previous armour kits). They were for $300 herald pledges, too - ain't no more for those pitiful $150 Savior pledges..

My my, is this the much expected male pin-up? Who's to say...

1.3 Mil, My Pants Will Never Be the Same!!!!!!!!!!!
Update #47 · Jan. 06, 2013 · 6 comments

We have reached 1.3 million in pledges!

I've slept, showered, shaved and am sitting here in one of my nicer dress shirts ready to get all fancy for the next 43 hours!

We have unlocked the Messenger of The Spiral Path, a promotional miniature that will only be available thru this kickstarter and future Kingdom Death special events! This Messenger discovered what he calls the Spiral Path, a mental course that let's him see the Truth. Perhaps this man has taken his first few steps to becoming a Forsaker?

You can add The Messenger of The Spiral Path to your rewards by adding +$15 to your pledge.He will come with a one-shot challenge scenario, a promo gear card and a promo hunt and settlement event card.

I have also added the Gorm Armor Miniature Kit as an option for those that want to pledge for additional sets. The set will make 4 miniatures ( 2 male and 2 female ) and I've also included a 5 pack, which has enough parts to make 20 miniatures! The kits also include the Gorm weapons, including the Black Sword.

I've set the next goal at 1,350,000 !

Thank you everybody!

Whelp, guess I know what I'm spending that left over budget on.

YOURS IS THE DRILL THAT SHALL PIERCE THE HEAVENS! GIGA! DRILL! BREAKURUUUUUUUU!

Apparently this cat is from some anime? Interesting. Don't know if ill be getting him.

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
Whelp, guess I know what I'm spending that left over budget on.

Budget? Whats that?

I didn't even put two and two together as to why I thought this looked familiar. It does look like a tabletop MMO.

Serious as a heart attack, I really want in, but every time I try to put the order together, I'm at around 600-800 for the total. sans pin ups.

I like pin ups as much as the next guy, but from a potential of keeping this game going, are these armor sets going to be sold as sprues, additional boxed sets, or available later?

I can see guys I play with playing with three or four survivors apiece. potentially playing with four or more players per session. There are honestly not enough basic guys to begin with, you'd almost HAVE to have the fifty buck sets to keep the game going.

How many models are on the board at the same time?

Is one person supposed to be one of the survivors, or is it four per player and a settlement for each guy?

When you move out past "guy with loincloth/ lantern", what happens to the expansions with the sunstalker, the dragon king- lion king, where your settlement automaticly goes these armors?

basicly your going to then end up starting the game pretty much out gunning other potential different settlements who, even getting to that point- are going to get owned and not in a good way.

I note that we are seeing all of these additional threats, and expansions. What then, exactly is a "Starting survivor" going to look like right out of the gate with these expansions? they sure won't have "Lantern/ piece of stick/ loincloth" things going on.

heck, even at that point, your first monsters going to get pawned by not even looking at it. What they end up doing then will be "Jumping the shark" and having to go full on slow with the larger monsters, because the smaller ones end up being nusance diversions.

When we are talking settlements, what is the end game for a settlement? are they supposed to end up being aligned with one side or another? are they maluable to the whims of these king types?
When do they then end up going out and hunting down and enslaving additional settlements?

Will you then have to revert to becoming "Monsters" in thier own right, while they run around finding and hunting down survivors as potential prey or converts?


I mean, gak. The potential for this game is overwhelming. Not nessesarily a bad thing, but I'm within the realm of throwing down 6-800. not even including future products.

what exactly is the meta game direction for this product/ game system?

Actually, one thing that seems to be the case with the game that others didn't get was that we may control 'a' survivor, but we don't always control the same survivor.

In the example video 2, a settlement was founded with the three combatant survivors and a random six others. As far as I understand, a player may at any time 'adopt' one of those six other settlers to become their fighter.

After all, equipment can easily be passed on from one individual to another, and overall the player simply plays an entity controlling a set of equipment. Your settlement is just a collective "extra life" pool that everyone in the cooperative game shares.

Of course, for storyline purposes, you're playing a separate individual. For gameplay purposes, your individual player "inventory" remains constant even as characters die.

This is how I understand the game from video 2, and I honestly prefer it this way. It'd be annoying to have a character killed off and that player can no longer participate in the campaign until it's over.

As for people comparing this game to a board game MMO... I guess you have never heard of tabletop RPGs? The game rules, randomness, and AI cards just take over the role of the DM.

Okay... I'm locked in at 450... that had better be it... Survivor, Expansions, and a 50 pack of bases. This 1.350 looks like a lantern pinup, and I have no issues resisting the pin ups, so hopefully that's all we'll see from here on out.

 Grot 6 wrote:
Serious as a heart attack, I really want in, but every time I try to put the order together, I'm at around 600-800 for the total. sans pin ups.

What exactly are you getting?

Survivor Pledge + All Expansions = $420

Monster is a one-off game, for what it's worth.

Your stock of survivors may exceed 4, but you won't see more than 4 survivors in play at a time, and if a survivor dies, you can pass his/her equipment off to another younger survivor (essentially, you can just use the same model). There's no need to represent more than 4 survivors at a time because of this. You do not need the extra armour sets to play the game, and the only purpose they serve is for use in other miniature games, or for display.

Furthermore, you don't fight other settlements. This game is purely aimed at the confrontation of AI controlled monsters, with each player controlling a character within the settlement.

@Absolutionis

That is 100% correct. Our gaming group is made up of about 20 rotating people. I've always wanted a singular campaign game where different groups could float in and out of it. By running the game with a settlement and population we finally have a game that makes it MORE simple for us to just play irrelevant of whom happens to be around this weekend.

Dentry wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Serious as a heart attack, I really want in, but every time I try to put the order together, I'm at around 600-800 for the total. sans pin ups.

What exactly are you getting?

Survivor Pledge + All Expansions = $420

Plus the single "encounter campaign one offs, and the armor sets. armor sets at the 50 bucks seem to be a great deal. Further reading into the seperate expansions leads me to think that your going to start those particular settlements with either dragon armor or the sun armor. THEN theres the issue of the lion knight/ king.

50 bucks or 25 bucks, these armors are whats holding up progress. Any way of mixing and matching the 5 pack sets?

THEN the last detail that your going to end up constructing the special green knight stuff, but that doesn't contend the fact that your already equipping the survivors with the added stuff you have by that time.

By the time your squaring off with some of those heavy hitters, I can see these guys , say a settlement of 20 with assorted armored sets from each of the packs.

About three or four encounters, it is either going to be death or glory, the way I see this.

Budget? Whats that?

Yeah, I've kinda gone overboard now too. I went from €180 to €241 in the space of an hour and will probably get that Spiral Path guy too because its limited...this is very much a case of 'Malibu Stacy has a new hat...' for me.

My brother pushed our pledge to $540 because he wants ALL THE GAMEPLAY thingies.

He hinted at Forsaker... if a Forsaker gets offered... hmmmm. Would be hard to resist picking just that up (and flower knight, and free twilight knight, of course) just for the model.

He hinted at Forsaker? Say what? What did I miss?

Well, he made a point of the Messenger of the Spiral Path (henceforth known as Not Kamina) being a person on their first few steps towards becoming a Forsaker. What's more, a lot of what he's wearing comes straight from the Forsaker outfit (the shoes, chains, and animal skulls, along with the tattered cape are all straight from the Forsaker, although the fur pelt is more in line with the Butcher, which is a Forsaker that's completely lost it, as opposed to mostly lost it).

That said, I think that was more of a casual observation and nod to the older KD fluff than anything else.

That said, the Forsaker is still an amazing model and I strongly suggest you get your hands on it. Mine looks great just sitting on my desk, and it's not even painted yet (soon... soon my precious...).

Dammit, expansion content! Why did you have to convince me (well, why did you have to make me convince me) to drop my resin Watcher?

Alright, new pledge

BF #3 Survivor - $131
Flower Knight - $15
Dragon King - $30
Gorm - $40
Dung Beetle Knight - $25
Spidicules - $40
Lantern Festival - $45
Messenger of Courage - $15
Total: $341

Reaaally hoping nothing else appeals, at this point

@Fafnir: Ahh, alright. I see. Actually, I got all three Forsakers! :p The 1st edition vertical blade. The remake of the Forsaker. And the Forsaker pinup. I'd love to see a Forsaker something as a stretch goal.

Well, since there's a Forsaker mask gear card included with Not Kamina, there will probably be some considerable fluff concerning the Forsakers at the very least.

As for the Forsaker being a stretch goal, I just don't see it, not with the time left in the kickstarter. We'll probably have to wait for the next KD game to get stuck in with the Forsaker.
Although, based on the Forsaker's fluff excerpt on the KD store, it builds him up as more of a PC, which should be interesting when said next KD project comes to light.

 Grot 6 wrote:

Dentry wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Serious as a heart attack, I really want in, but every time I try to put the order together, I'm at around 600-800 for the total. sans pin ups.

What exactly are you getting?

Survivor Pledge + All Expansions = $420

Plus the single "encounter campaign one offs, and the armor sets. armor sets at the 50 bucks seem to be a great deal. Further reading into the seperate expansions leads me to think that your going to start those particular settlements with either dragon armor or the sun armor. THEN theres the issue of the lion knight/ king.

50 bucks or 25 bucks, these armors are whats holding up progress. Any way of mixing and matching the 5 pack sets?

THEN the last detail that your going to end up constructing the special green knight stuff, but that doesn't contend the fact that your already equipping the survivors with the added stuff you have by that time.

By the time your squaring off with some of those heavy hitters, I can see these guys , say a settlement of 20 with assorted armored sets from each of the packs.

About three or four encounters, it is either going to be death or glory, the way I see this.

The game is not WYSIWYG; you do not NEED to make a survivor to represent every set and/or weapon combination. You make one that looks cool to your player and they use that. You might want to have them use the starting/unarmored for a while to get into the story, but if they want a character that is wearing Phoenix armor they can do that regardless of the set the character is using. The cards and inventory are going to determine the in-game effects. Really, that's much better since I might not like the look of any armor besides rawhide as a player, but my character certainly wouldn't pass up the added protection of better armor in this world.

So if you LOVE the look of a particular armor, or you know you'll have tons of players, that's when you need to buy more sets. You can likely play the game just fine with the sets you get with the base game and expansions.

 Krinsath wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:

Dentry wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Serious as a heart attack, I really want in, but every time I try to put the order together, I'm at around 600-800 for the total. sans pin ups.

What exactly are you getting?

Survivor Pledge + All Expansions = $420

Plus the single "encounter campaign one offs, and the armor sets. armor sets at the 50 bucks seem to be a great deal. Further reading into the seperate expansions leads me to think that your going to start those particular settlements with either dragon armor or the sun armor. THEN theres the issue of the lion knight/ king.

50 bucks or 25 bucks, these armors are whats holding up progress. Any way of mixing and matching the 5 pack sets?

THEN the last detail that your going to end up constructing the special green knight stuff, but that doesn't contend the fact that your already equipping the survivors with the added stuff you have by that time.

By the time your squaring off with some of those heavy hitters, I can see these guys , say a settlement of 20 with assorted armored sets from each of the packs.

About three or four encounters, it is either going to be death or glory, the way I see this.

The game is not WYSIWYG; you do not NEED to make a survivor to represent every set and/or weapon combination. You make one that looks cool to your player and they use that. You might want to have them use the starting/unarmored for a while to get into the story, but if they want a character that is wearing Phoenix armor they can do that regardless of the set the character is using. The cards and inventory are going to determine the in-game effects. Really, that's much better since I might not like the look of any armor besides rawhide as a player, but my character certainly wouldn't pass up the added protection of better armor in this world.

So if you LOVE the look of a particular armor, or you know you'll have tons of players, that's when you need to buy more sets. You can likely play the game just fine with the sets you get with the base game and expansions.

The armor sets were said that they were not going to be available after the KS. You want them, you have to get them now.

Have you not seen the expansion info? If not, go look.

Looking hard at 614.... by the way. some are getting 20's, some are getting fives.

Grot, Breotan was trying to organize an armor swap- 5 people pledging for 20 of a single armor set and swapping after. Just FYI, would have to finalize that soon if folks want to do it with him (Breotan).

Nice pledge contents, recruittons

 Grot 6 wrote:


The armor sets were said that they were not going to be available after the KS. You want them, you have to get them now.

Have you not seen the expansion info? If not, go look.

Looking hard at 614.... by the way. some are getting 20's, some are getting fives.

That's likely a misinterpretation; they will not be available on their own in a nice convenient package like this and will instead come with their expansions meaning more "wasted" things like another monster and cards as well as a higher price. If you know you like a set, it's obviously best to get them now and save money, but it's not like they will disappear forever once the KS is done.

YEAHHHHHH!!!!!!

We have reached 1.35 million in funding and have unlocked the Pinup Lantern Festival Girl! You can add a plastic version of her to your rewards by increasing your pledge by +$15 or a resin version for +$25.

New Option - Extra Lantern Armor
I have also added the Lantern Armor Miniature Kit as a side option. Each Lantern Armor kit can make 2 male and 2 female miniatures, weapons included! For +$25 you can add another Lantern Armor kit to your rewards and for +$50 you can add a 5-pack, which can make a total of 20 survivors rocking Lantern Armor!

For the $1,400,000 Stretch goal I've got something extra special lined up! I wonder if anyone can guess? !!!!!!



I manage to squeeze out a little bit of extra time and put together a quick photo shoot of Zachary the Survivor! I've added the images to the Kingdom Death: Monster Website, please check em out!



Thank you everybody!!!!! yaaahhh!!!! Last 33 Hours!!!

I'll take 7 Lantern Festival Girls. They shall be used to create ambiance during the festival event!

Seriously, though, I'm tempted to get multiples for that very reason. I'm at least getting one and maybe a Leather Queen, too.

I was looking thru the updates and have a question: does the lantern armor come with the lantern festival or something else? I'm not seeing that it comes with an expansion. D I need to buy them separately?

Lantern armor was added to the game box as a stretch goal

Also Adam has said that lantern armour is made by collecting a lantern pile it's not linked to the Watcher or the Lantern Festival.

The last few days of this kickstarter have been simply amazing. The way the stretch-goals are getting eviscerated, you think we will see the 1.5M mark beat in the next 24h?

If we don't get close to 1.8mil, I'd be shocked.

Things do seem to be slowing down quite a bit.

 Grot 6 wrote:


So if you LOVE the look of a particular armor, or you know you'll have tons of players, that's when you need to buy more sets. You can likely play the game just fine with the sets you get with the base game and expansions.

The armor sets were said that they were not going to be available after the KS. You want them, you have to get them now.

Have you not seen the expansion info? If not, go look.

Looking hard at 614.... by the way. some are getting 20's, some are getting fives.

As i understand it:
The combat phase is intended to be played by four people with one survivor each, apparently six works at a push but the rules may need tweaking for that. Most expansions come with enough armour sets in them to play with four of the corresponding armour (green knight notwithstanding)

"basicly your going to then end up starting the game pretty much out gunning other potential different settlements who, even getting to that point- are going to get owned and not in a good way"
Fairly certain each playthrough only has one pc settlement, you dont go out and fight others.

In short you only need the armour kits if you want to proxy the models for a different game system.

You'd think with only 24 hours to go he'd get the final stretches out a bit quicker! It's at 1.42M now, so if there is a 1.45M stretch it might almost be hit by the time he releases it.

Forsaker at 1.5M (and teasing it now) would send this through the roof...

So the $1,400,000 stretch goal has been reached, but the pic for the model hasn't been shown yet.

Any idea what she is?

So I had to change my pledge, I kept the BF Deluxe Survivor, but I think I'll wait on the expansions since so far nothing in the expansions is exclusive to Kickstarter.

So instead I'm focusing on the resin pinups.

Still at over $500 though!

My guess is the art isn't done yet

we went from sculpts & colour art

to colour art/renders

to line art/ incomplete render (later updated to real pose)

to line art only

so I think adam had a rough outline which be 'blacked out' for the previous stretch, but does not have the full line art yet

(he has been online in the comments since we hit the stretch)

I don't know, with only 24 hours left I would think all the art is in. Adam is slower changing the current stretch than any campaign I've been a part of (it makes sense to get well clear of it, but it just seems to be his style)

Mechanical, the pin-ups aren't KS exclusives, either.

Given the afore-mentioned speed of Adam updating after a stretch, I hope he puts one in for 1.5M in his next update (which has to be coming soon, but I won't be counting on seeing it until the a.m. ) since there might not be time for him to put together another after that.

Edit: As DaveC points out below, the Kicktraq day rollover doesn't happen for another 5 hours (even though there are 24 hours left in the campaign atm) so that explains the currently-odd-looking graph!

Ah but today in Kicktraq land still has 6 hours left to go Kicktraq rolls onto a new day at midnight EST which is 5AM GMT

 RiTides wrote:
Mechanical, the pin-ups aren't KS exclusives, either.

True, but the resin pinups are probably the limited edition ones so they'll still be hard to get, the expansions aren't limited. Some of the resin models say "collectors" in the title, some don't so I'm wondering if the Pinups are limited collectors models or are they the regular editions.

At least I haven't found anything in the KS campaign to suggest the expansions are or will be limited is some way.

Hell, I'll probably just get some of the expansions anyway.

This kickstarter is killing my bank account!

The pinups are all general release, none of them will come with a certificate of authenticity or a number, and they will all be restocked (Source: I asked Adam )

 DaveC wrote:
Ah but today in Kicktraq land still has 6 hours left to go Kicktraq rolls onto a new day at midnight EST which is 5AM GMT

Ah okay, that makes more sense then!

 recruittons wrote:
The pinups are all general release, none of them will come with a certificate of authenticity or a number, and they will all be restocked (Source: I asked Adam )

So this was a reply I got on Kickstarter about this:

@Sean Harrison - Adam commented that the resin pinups will be packed like the other KD resin models, so art card, a 4"x6" print of the concept art, and a certificate of authenticity for those that are collector's editions.

I can't find the comment by Adam though.

I wish this KS was a bit more organized.

24 Hours Left! 1.4 Mil Goal unlocked! Welcome Survivor Kara Black a Kingdom Death x Studio McVey Miniature!

This is it everyone! The last 24 hours! The Final dash of this campaign! Thank you all for being here with me!

We have hit the 1.4 Million Stretch Goal and have unlocked Survivor Kara Black! A special promotional miniature that is a collaboration between Kingdom Death & The Legendary Studio McVey! Kara Black's Original incarnation was as Lt. Kara Black, part of the Studio McVey limited resin line. Her astounding popularity led Mike to include her as one of the main protaginist in Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster, a miniature board game that until recently held the #1 spot as the highest funded board game on kickstarter!

Mike McVey is a legend in our little niche industry and I am so BONKERS EXCITED to include Kara Black as a special part of Kingdom Death!

You can add her to your rewards by raising your pledge by +$15
Kara will be available through this kickstarter and in the future be available in a limited fashion for various promotions.

She comes with a KD:M one shot challenge scenario, a promo giant stone face gear card and will have a painting guide that will have a special highlight on painting skin tones! If you pledge for her, once the campaign ends we will send you a link to pledge manager where you will confirm all your reward selections.

Next goal set at 1,450,000! It has got to be one of the MOST requested goals! The teaser image is a little tricky to figure out tho!!!

Teaser image is definitely a puzzle!

Hopefully not another Crossover Tribute/Promo figure at a 50K increment... Zzzz....

 RiTides wrote:
Teaser image is definitely a puzzle!

Hopefully not another Crossover Tribute/Promo figure at a 50K increment... Zzzz....

I doubt he expected to burn through everything so quickly, haha. He may have had to scramble for some of these last ones. He said any more expansions and he woulden't have been able to make the November 2013 deadline

I'm pretty satisfied, though. The King makes it all worth it.

 RiTides wrote:
Teaser image is definitely a puzzle!

Hopefully not another Crossover Tribute/Promo figure at a 50K increment... Zzzz....

Well its only 12k more from when he posted the update.

mechanicalhorizon wrote:

 recruittons wrote:
The pinups are all general release, none of them will come with a certificate of authenticity or a number, and they will all be restocked (Source: I asked Adam )

So this was a reply I got on Kickstarter about this:

@Sean Harrison - Adam commented that the resin pinups will be packed like the other KD resin models, so art card, a 4"x6" print of the concept art, and a certificate of authenticity for those that are collector's editions.

I can't find the comment by Adam though.

I wish this KS was a bit more organized.

I can promise you, the pinups are like all of the other pinups he sells on his website. They all come with the box, the art card, and the mini, but they are all general release and don't come numbered and limited. I asked him about some of them in a message and he told me that all pinups aren't limited run.

Can't say I like Kara black much does'nt fit the rest of the pin-up minis at all, plus the face and body are really odd looking as a whole. who knows maybe it will look better in sculpted format.

I have an idea what next stretch goal could be, I think it may be some sort a mini stone face display piece, ya'know a sort of "cosplay" style item, a crazy idea but you never know right.

Kara Black isn't labeled as a pinup. It seems to be more in line with the Adam and Anna figures with their own one-shots. Kara Black seems to be a non "canon" corssover miniature that fits into the universe because Studio McVey's line is pretty much realistic proportions anyways.

Poots has been quoted as saying, "Pinups are not canon to the game world." Kara Black is a non-canon non-pinup that just so happens to fit in with the game world.

Next stretch goal = a terrain piece?

 Absolutionis wrote:
Kara Black is a non-canon non-pinup that just so happens to fit in with the game world.

What is it, then


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 Alpharius wrote:
Next stretch goal = a terrain piece?

Interesting guess! That would actually be really cool. He said it's one of the most frequently requested, which could be settlement terrain?

If you notice the Survivor Kara also comes with a painting guide focusing on flesh tones

I wonder if part of the Deley as Adam talking to Mike & Ali about the tribute mini and 'commisioning' them to do the guide ?

@RiTides: I think she fits in more like the Messenger of Courage and the Messenger of the Spiral Path (also, the Explorers of Death) where they are just unique characters that are used for the one-shot challenge they come with (which the pinups typically don't). I believe she is just less dressed than the others of that type

 Alpharius wrote:
Next stretch goal = a terrain piece?

Now that would be nice, maybe the Lantern Hoard which the settlement is built around. Seems like some people are surggesting custom dice on the KS page as well.

Th Kara stretch is awesome. So excited for it.

Followup from Adam on the KS feed

Creator Kingdom Death 11 minutes ago

There will not be any SW rules [for survivor kara black]. We felt that the prehistory vibe didn't work well in the sci fi universe of SW [sedition wars].

Think I have figured out the next stretch

its obviously a rhino dragon!

silly question - almost none of the things that loads of people have posted on here as new figs and pin ups have appeared on the real KS site - are they all genuine? can Adam PLEASE confirm all of the pin ups and various expansions? he really needs to make it clear that its all from him and not just 'fan' pages (as almost all of these posts have come from lots of other people).
can you do that for us please adam?
thanks bud.

Theres no tentacle penis or baby hands on that rhino dragon, clearly fake.

They are all on the Kickstarter page...

Huh?

Anything in the "Updates" section of the Kickstarter is definitely "from Adam".

Giant flower knight right hand?

scragglefoot wrote:
Think I have figured out the next stretch

its obviously a rhino dragon!

Of Course!

That being a promo image for a hand holding a die (for custom dice) also seems very possible.

 Duke Nuke Them wrote:
silly question - almost none of the things that loads of people have posted on here as new figs and pin ups have appeared on the real KS site - are they all genuine? can Adam PLEASE confirm all of the pin ups and various expansions? he really needs to make it clear that its all from him and not just 'fan' pages (as almost all of these posts have come from lots of other people).
can you do that for us please adam?
thanks bud.

Not a 100% sure what you mean, but everthing on the KS page is completely legit and from Adam/Kingdom Death himself, Adam runs the kickstarter noone else (well maybe Anna). If your worried that the items are somehow fake because they are not on the main KD mainsite, thats normal. Most of the products on the KS page are still being funded and in a sense don't exist yet, they will be added to the main KD website in about a year from now when they become general release's. But regardless its all legit.

Hope that answers you question.

Also, if the updates aren't shown on the website, it's because they're either older updates that were removed to make room for newer ones, or they're new updates found in the emails that have yet to be added to the KS page.

I know it;s a prototype, but I really hope some of the typographical and grammatical errors will be corrected in the final game.

For example, in video 2 at 6:06 you see the Monster Grease card. It should say, "...A monster's chance..." with the apostrophe.
Also in video 2, at 9:49 you see the Whisker Harp card. It should say, "...If you're fighting..." instead of 'your'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4lZ13VqQ38

Minor issues, of course. With much of the game in prototype, this stuff will probably get caught during playtesting.

 RiTides wrote:
That being a promo image for a hand holding a die (for custom dice) also seems very possible.

That's what it is!

Nice catch!

Of course, unless the custom dice are included, it is a stretch goal I'll be able to resist.

Unlike every other stretch goal, sadly!

Well the 1.45mill mark has been hit, now we play the waiting game.

This is "Prime Adam Time" though, so we should see something soon.

Also, he'll have to give the next few goals soon and really, truly say "That's it!" as there is NO after Kickstarter ability to add funds.

He's too nice a guy and customer oriented to allow a goal to be hit and missed by many due to the inability to add funds in after the fact.

I think!

 Rolt wrote:
Theres no tentacle penis or baby hands on that rhino dragon, clearly fake.

You're missing the fact the rest of his body is one big tentacle and the wings are made from 3 thousand boob faced babies holding hands.

Are there any fello Muricans that can do me a favor?

Can I paypal someone to get me 2 of the KD Kara Black miniatures?

please?

You can Paypal them yourself you know.

Does anyone know if this is correct? If I just wanted some of the expansions and some options, do I pick the 11 dollar pledge level?

Sining wrote:
Does anyone know if this is correct? If I just wanted some of the expansions and some options, do I pick the 11 dollar pledge level?

Considering that's exactly what it says on the kickstarter, yes.

Sining wrote:
Does anyone know if this is correct? If I just wanted some of the expansions and some options, do I pick the 11 dollar pledge level?

Yes: note also that if you get anything that includes physical rewards, you will also receive a Twilight Knight (much defraying the $11 cost!).

Edit: Ninja'd! So I will take the opportunity to say that I could really use a miniature painting guide focused on fleshtones. Definitely a weakness of mine.

Sining wrote:
Does anyone know if this is correct? If I just wanted some of the expansions and some options, do I pick the 11 dollar pledge level?

If you only want some options/expansions, but not the base game, this is correct for US backers.

For international backers, I'm not really sure... maybe you do this, but still add the $45 in shipping? That seems odd because then it would be $56 in shipping.

Maybe you select it, but subtract the $11 from what your shipping fee is and still just make it $45 in shipping... definitely worth asking about if he hasn't already cleared that up.

 RiTides wrote:

Sining wrote:
Does anyone know if this is correct? If I just wanted some of the expansions and some options, do I pick the 11 dollar pledge level?

If you only want some options/expansions, but not the base game, this is correct for US backers.

For international backers, I'm not really sure... maybe you do this, but still add the $45 in shipping? That seems odd because then it would be $56 in shipping.

Maybe you select it, but subtract the $11 from what your shipping fee is and still just make it $45 in shipping... definitely worth asking about if he hasn't already cleared that up.

Options Only is $11 plus $24 for international shipping.

Just checked the page, if you're international you select the $11 deal but add $24 to ship outside of the US.

Edit: Ninja'ed

 Piston Honda wrote:
Are there any fello Muricans that can do me a favor?

Can I paypal someone to get me 2 of the KD Kara Black miniatures?

please?

You can pledge at the Options Only level. It's $11 and you can add 2 Kara's for $30.

Dentry wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
Are there any fello Muricans that can do me a favor?

Can I paypal someone to get me 2 of the KD Kara Black miniatures?

please?

You can pledge at the Options Only level. It's $11 and you can add 2 Kara's for $30.

hrrrrm, didn't catch that. Really?

 Piston Honda wrote:

Dentry wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
Are there any fello Muricans that can do me a favor?

Can I paypal someone to get me 2 of the KD Kara Black miniatures?

please?

You can pledge at the Options Only level. It's $11 and you can add 2 Kara's for $30.

hrrrrm, didn't catch that. Really?

Yup, and get a Twilight Knight to boot!

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:

Dentry wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
Are there any fello Muricans that can do me a favor?

Can I paypal someone to get me 2 of the KD Kara Black miniatures?

please?

You can pledge at the Options Only level. It's $11 and you can add 2 Kara's for $30.

hrrrrm, didn't catch that. Really?

Yup, and get a Twilight Knight to boot!

Might get that too, it is a Zelda tribute, right? or just me thinking that?

Hope the girl with the book will be available after the KS.

 Piston Honda wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:

Dentry wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
Are there any fello Muricans that can do me a favor?

Can I paypal someone to get me 2 of the KD Kara Black miniatures?

please?

You can pledge at the Options Only level. It's $11 and you can add 2 Kara's for $30.

hrrrrm, didn't catch that. Really?

Yup, and get a Twilight Knight to boot!

Might get that too, it is a Zelda tribute, right? or just me thinking that?

Hope the girl with the book will be available after the KS.

Sorry, I meant that any pledge that includes physical rewards will receive a Twilight Knight, as per the Christmas Gift.

Edit:

My gift to you friends, family, fans, backers and supporters is the single piece of all of Kingdom Death that is the most significant to me. The Twilight Knight. Anyone that pledges their support at any level that includes physical goods being shipped to you, will get a plastic Twilight Knight.

The "Not Link" is the Messenger of Courage promo, which will not be in general release after the kickstarter. Not sure what you mean by "the girl with the book", the preacher pin-up?

 Piston Honda wrote:
Are there any fello Muricans that can do me a favor?

Can I paypal someone to get me 2 of the KD Kara Black miniatures?

please?

PM sent.

Edit: And the ninjas struck.

Arright, who guessed dice? Gold star to that man!

1.45 Mill Reached!!! Game Box Upgraded with Custom High Quality Kingdom Death Dice!
Update #50 · Jan. 06, 2013 · 4 comments

We have reached 1,450,000 in funding and upgraded every game box with 5 high quality custom kingdom death dice! I never expected us to get this far! This is NUTS!

The design is still a work in progress and will not be finalized until after the campaign ends.

As an option you can add 5 more of these dice to your rewards by pledging +$10 for them. But remember your game box will come with 5, so you really don't need any extras!

I am going all out on these babies!


Next goal set at 1,500,000!!!!!

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!

I sure hope he finally adds some skin to this Kickstarter. Doesn't he realize that sex sells?

My guess? Ayla (from Chrono Trigger) homage character. If I'm right, this one I cannot pass up.

Yep has to be Ayla but with KD:M twist she still looks very like the actual Ayla though

 recruittons wrote:
My guess? Ayla (from Chrono Trigger) homage character. If I'm right, this one I cannot pass up.

I have a feeling you might be right.

Skyrim tribute?

Edit: Or Ayla.

Whoa Ayla from Chrono Trigger? that would be amazing, I love Ayla's design. The dice are gonna be great, only problem is how many(max) would we need to play the game, does anyone know?

scragglefoot wrote:

 Rolt wrote:
Theres no tentacle penis or baby hands on that rhino dragon, clearly fake.

You're missing the fact the rest of his body is one big tentacle and the wings are made from 3 thousand boob faced babies holding hands.

Well that does sound a bit more like KD I know, but unless it shoots flamming penis's from its mouth and has six baby hand arms coming out of it anus all high-fiveing in unison, its not getting my pleage.

 Piston Honda wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

Yup, and get a Twilight Knight to boot!

Might get that too, it is a Zelda tribute, right? or just me thinking that?

Hope the girl with the book will be available after the KS.

Everyone getting a physical reward sent to them gets a free Twilight Knight thrown in.

So if you pledge Options Only and grab 2 Survivor Kara Black, you'd also get a Twilight Knight automatically.

Here's a picture:

Quick Q: when the expansions are released for retail, they will include their associated armor sets, correct? With that in mind, will the sun stalker come with Miko as well?

1.5 Million Reached! A Mysterious Messenger visits your Settlement!
Update #51 · Jan. 06, 2013 · 2 comments

19 Hours Left!!

We have unlocked the Messenger of The First Story, a promotional miniature that will only be available thru this kickstarter and future Kingdom Death special events! This Messenger is a Savior that discovers a way to stop aging. Perhaps she goes on to found the White Speakers, sharing this important first story with them.

You can add The Messenger of The First Story to your rewards by adding +$15 to your pledge. She will come with a one-shot challenge scenario, a promo gear card and a promo hunt and settlement event card.

Our next goal is at 1,550,000 !

Um, I think this is related to Chrono trigger, but I'm honestly not familiar enough with the game to know...

yeah, it looks like Ayla from Chrono Trigger. My guess is with the 'First Story' bit, Chrono Trigger was the first JRPG poots played.

Hmm, and the next goal is... Extra heads? I wonder what they're from.

They don't look like anything instantly recognizable, but hopefully its another game box addition.

 Cyporiean wrote:
They don't look like anything instantly recognizable, but hopefully its another game box addition.

Hoping that as well.

The first female head on the left has a white highlight/streak. At first I thought it might be something to it, but it's probably just a bunch of random heads.

We're also less than $1k away from that goal. Madness.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/poots/kingdom-death-monster/posts/381649?ref=activity

With just 14 hours left on the clock we have smashed thru yet another stretch goal!

Every game box is now upgraded with 6 new unique survivor heads! YAH! Shown here is just the early concept art of the heads, they will be finalized with a bit more tender love and care before being handed off to one of our sculptors.

As an option if you would like more of these heads, you can pledge for them at $10 / pack of 6.

I've set our next goal at 1,600,000. If we hit it, we'll upgrade the core game box with the 4 starting survivor heads shown in a previous update. Since that update, the heads have been finalized and if we reach the goal I'll reveal their final sculpted incarnation and not just artwork! ( I would be pulling the curtain back on these down the road anyway, but this makes it a tiny bit more exciting! )

Thank you guys so much! We are closing in on the final countdown!!!

It's nice to see some stuff like this added to the box.

Only one more stretch goal after this according to the comments page.

Good. I don't think my wallet can possibly handle any more. Man, I can't believe I'm actually going to drop about $600 on a board game. *Insert dying Khan quote here*

 Breotan wrote:
Good. I don't think my wallet can possibly handle any more. Man, I can't believe I'm actually going to drop about $600 on a board game. *Insert dying Khan quote here*

Tell me about it! I'm at $570 at the moment for Survivor, all expansions, 50 bases, international shipping, Nico, and the three Kickstarter exclusives. For a board game!!! I am so excited though.

I decided not to go with the bases and grab an armor 5-packs instead. I'll be trading some of whatever I decide to get for stuff I don't have. That way I'll hopefully get eight figures of each armor type.

What do you need that many for? Maybe when the second or third games are out, but I just don't see the need for KD:M.

Four models for the game and four more to paint up for display or use for conversion/alternates since they're multipose. Oh, and all these armor kits? They're not going to be produced after the kickstarter, except for what's listed in the base game and each individual expansion. That means if you want extras, you need to get them now.

I only fear the reprecussion of the inevitable endorphin crash after this kickstarter is over, and the forum remembers we have to wait almost a year for this to arrive...

(pending being ahead of schedule).

I've already told my brother to brace for just that, as unlike other gaming projects (CMON projects that is), this is still in development and can overshoot its initial release date.

Sedition Wars and DreamForge both slipped by two months so why should this be any different? I'm not going to hold unrealistic expectations for ship dates, either.

Edit: It just hit 1.6 mil.

Good to see base game box upgrades, but he really did abandon Survivor as far as stretches go.

The teaser for the $1.7 million looks badass as all hell. One can only hope...

Is that a kd gats?

Without a post-KD pledge manager he should really post the price imo.

 spears wrote:
Is that a kd gats?

That's what people are thinking on the KS comments.

This last development looks promising. I just poots isn't asleep when we hit 1.7mil.

Also, i know the pin-ups will be available post-ks, but will they be available in resin, or just plastic after this?

They should be available after the KS, but no word on material

although with the limitations of resin in terms of scaling up production getting hold of resin versions may be tricky due to the 'sells out in less than 24hr of a shipment arriving' nature of KD minis

I'd guess Adam will continue with the plastic too (as the expansions/game will be ongoing in plastic),

So much for that 'slow day' yesterday, RiTides!




1.7M in a little over 9 hours might be a stretch.

It would be a good idea to reveal the full image and price sooner rather than later!

Agreed, not being able to add in or amend extra funds once it closes down is a bit of a pain in the arse.

 RiTides wrote:
Good to see base game box upgrades, but he really did abandon Survivor as far as stretches go.

thats what i was sayin before!! come on Mr Poots - please slide over some endgame WINS (that are usable in the game!) for the survivor stretch faithfuls....

???????????????? is all it says.

My guess is it's a tree.

It's a Jackal.

???

Hmmmm...


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 Fafnir wrote:
It's a Jackal.

Hehe!

Its another Berserk reference.

Yes, yes it is come to think of it. This pleases me greatly.

So, is this a game about porn stars or something?

 Chumbalaya wrote:
So, is this a game about porn stars or something?

Sure, why not.


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Also, i think we need this now:

Ahhh, Adam at last reveals his design secret in the comments section...

Haha, brings back memories of the animated series for sure.

I was still holding out hope for a terrain piece.

That I wouldn't have to pay extra for!

He's already said no more freebees. Unless you mean something from the cat. Ewwwww...

Alph, you're right about yesterday (didn't realize kicktraq "day" was different!

Tree looks cool! 1666666, nice

He also said no more freebies and then upgraded the dice... for free!

We'll see - maybe 1.7M makes a man feel generous!

I think he "only" said no more Herald of Death freebies. No?

Doesn't preclude some added box-upgrades or Survivor-level upgrades.

Unlikely.

But one can hope!!

 Zweischneid wrote:
I think he "only" said no more Herald of Death freebies. No?

Doesn't preclude some added box-upgrades or Survivor-level upgrades.

Unlikely.

But one can hope!!

Exactly - and possible as we've gotten the 'core box head upgrades' too since then.

Im actually getting pretty excited for this. Managed to snag a 253 Black Friday Resin special that was looking lonely

If it gets Gus I go in....Dang it....I was trying to avoid this one....

for anyone who cant be bothered to trawl through the bbg forum heres a few choice quotes from poots:

"The game features what I like to call "organic design", things are necessarily better just because they were crafted from a higher level settlement location or from better materials. You might for example have a mask fashioned from the skull of a phoenix. While wearing it, if your insanity is high enough the survivor might begin to believe he is the reincarnation of the monster and get a slew of survival points for departing on a hunt with only bone weapons!"

"There are ways to influence the innovation deck, drawing multiple cards gaining only one, or simply taking a specific innovation and putting it into play. Maybe you'll have a culture that sacrifices a healthy survivor to harvest their body and use it as means to try and innovate… ah now i am walking a fine line of too many spoilers!"

"The game is mature, and intended for an adult audience. If you are in particular very sensative please take that into consideration. As your pledge will be supporting artistic endeavours you may not feel comfortable with.

Think of it like... nightmare animal planet. "

Re expansions modifying campaing length "they can lengthen the game and in the case of the Dragon King, he comes with rules wherein you can begin your settlement under "rule" of him. This would change your starting settlement and offer a varient campaign course."

"It's also entirely possible to "game over" in the introduction fight and never even build your first settlement."

"I will be releasing more heads in the future, I just couldn't squeeze them into this campaign! We were working on an emo set and a mongrel set! But like most good pieces of artwork, they are a challenge to get right."

 Hulksmash wrote:
If it gets Gus I go in....Dang it....I was trying to avoid this one....

Inspired... perhaps. But wouldn't the real deal by copy-righted? Unless, of course, Adam pulled in another official cross-promo somehow.

Inspired by can get pretty darn close.

Pass. I hope that 1.7 mil isn't something really awesome, cause I have to go to work.

That's an interesting stretch...

A very interesting piece.... and given the detail, I can see why it is so expensive. Hmmm... that said, it's certainly going to be available later, so I'm just not sure it beats out other things in today's allocations...


Decisions, decisions...

Wow.....any indications on how big the tree is? If it can be made to fit on a 50mm base, I am so grabbing this to use as an alternate Wurmwood, Tree of Judgement for my Hordes army.

It's base is roughly the size of a CD and its larger then the GW plastic trees.

also..

CRAZY MY BRAIN IS GOING CRAZY AHHH!!!!!!

Ok, i am composed again!

 kingdomdeath wrote:

Ok, i am composed again!

I doubt that

Dear Mister Poots

I really must complain, I can't tear myself away from the PC long enough to eat

I'll starve to death

really

honest

Will it be me you who goes first? Ive got cats to eat... but I think you do too!

 kingdomdeath wrote:
It's base is roughly the size of a CD and its larger then the GW plastic trees.

also..

CRAZY MY BRAIN IS GOING CRAZY AHHH!!!!!!

Ok, i am composed again!

Wow, so ~120mm or so... that would make that tree... roughly the size of a Warmachine colossal? Dayum!

 kingdomdeath wrote:
Will it be me you who goes first? Ive got cats to eat... but I think you do too!

since your gaze is pointed at Dakka...


How much do I need to add for Gotz?

 kingdomdeath wrote:
Will it be me you who goes first? Ive got cats to eat... but I think you do too!

I think (based on his size and the fact he's always hungry) Tommy would eat me first,

while Charlie (my Avatar on KS) looked on in disgust... all she will eat is fresh chicken breast

oh we'll at least I'll be a useful corpse

 kingdomdeath wrote:
It's base is roughly the size of a CD and its larger then the GW plastic trees.

also..

CRAZY MY BRAIN IS GOING CRAZY AHHH!!!!!!

Ok, i am composed again!

There goes that plan....but still, it's gorgeous. Probably just as well, I keep having to remind myself I'm kickstartered out for some time to come and no my pledge can't go to the "everything" level. But it's so hard....

 kingdomdeath wrote:
It's base is roughly the size of a CD and its larger then the GW plastic trees.

also..

CRAZY MY BRAIN IS GOING CRAZY AHHH!!!!!!

Ok, i am composed again!

My first thought was, CD what did CD stand for again? Help me Dakka mouse-over abbreviation explanations! Wait, CD, as in Compact Disk CD, That's huge!


I fear I too may be going insane.

Yes truely it is a tree the size (well almost) of a real tree!

look how teeny tiny the skulls hanging from it are

?

wait a minute skulls have we wandered off into a different systems..... Phew only a few skulls, it's still safe

I've been resisting this one but Er... wait a sec. Goofing around with the pledge manager it lists a resin Illuminated Lady as being an option... but I don't see it anywhere on the kickstarter. Is this really available? That will be the tipping point for me. I kick myself to this day for not nabbing that beautiful model.

I resized the tree on a large screen using a CD as the base size and the tree is 230mm in height based on that - it's huge

It is available but being treated hush hush as not to set anyone off about being inappropriate.

GOD DAMN IT.

Well that is a slippery slope. White Speaker Nico + Candy + Cola + Her = $71... and I'm not even getting the game. I need counselling...

 kilcin wrote:
It is available but being treated hush hush as not to set anyone off about being inappropriate.

I wonder what would happen to this KS if they "hush hush" the resin Wet Nurse now. It's not like there'd be time for bad press

Ah well, my feverish mind.

 BlueDagger wrote:
I've been resisting this one but Er... wait a sec. Goofing around with the pledge manager it lists a resin Illuminated Lady as being an option... but I don't see it anywhere on the kickstarter. Is this really available? That will be the tipping point for me. I kick myself to this day for not nabbing that beautiful model.

Yes the Illuminated Lady resin is available from the KS for $25 (All the artcard/6x4 art/box but no limited COA as this will be an unlimited re-issue)

(but she won't be shown beyond the text link so Adam 1. does not get too many orders, his caster only has 9 months to fill and 2. so the prude/'think of the children' police didn't cause trouble early in the KS)

Pledge away


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 BlueDagger wrote:
GOD DAMN IT.

Well that is a slippery slope. White Speaker Nico + Candy + Cola + Her = $71... and I'm not even getting the game. I need counselling...

And a free plastic twilight knight..... Adam's giving one to every pledger getting physical 'stuff'

 DaveC wrote:
I resized the tree on a large screen using a CD as the base size and the tree is 230mm in height based on that - it's huge

I hope you're right. That would be awesome.

Alright, so how do we get him to re-release Grand Mother?

mokotochan wrote:
Alright, so how do we get him to re-release Grand Mother?

Dunno. I put that on the #wishlist straight away when he asked for it. Didn't happen though

But I guess I am poor enough as it is!

5 Hours left, things are getting CRAZY!

We have hit the 1.7 Million dollar goal! Insane!!!!!
And in doing so have unlocked the Messenger of Humanity, a promotional miniature that will only be available thru this kickstarter and future Kingdom Death special events!

This Messenger might be the First Twilight Knight to desert the Order. Without a partner Archivist to maintain them, his unique relics and physiology modifications turn to complete chaos. He might chain his sword into its sheath and shred his special hood. Perhaps he strikes out into the nightmare world, once again a mere man, in search of his memories.

You can add The Messenger of Humanity to your rewards by adding +$15 to your pledge. He will come with a one-shot challenge scenario, a promo gear card and a promo hunt and settlement event card.

Our next goal is at 1,750,000 ! And it is the FINAL pinup!

Black fething Sabbath yes, that base..

Yeah, that base is pretty sweet.

Edit: Well, it will eventually be sweet once the cross-eyed Picasso look is rectified in the sculpting process, I do say.

Dangit....I'm probably in just for some of the add-ons.

 Lt. Coldfire wrote:


Edit: Well, it will eventually be sweet once the cross-eyed Picasso look is rectified in the sculpting process, I do say.

Since its a Guts/Gatts/Berserk model the base is probably a behelit. Google it

 BlueDagger wrote:
GOD DAMN IT.

Well that is a slippery slope. White Speaker Nico + Candy + Cola + Her = $71... and I'm not even getting the game. I need counselling...

$71? That's all? Call me when you get the nerve to drop $650.00.

Edit: It's up to 4900 backers.

 Breotan wrote:

 BlueDagger wrote:
GOD DAMN IT.

Well that is a slippery slope. White Speaker Nico + Candy + Cola + Her = $71... and I'm not even getting the game. I need counselling...

$71? That's all? Call me when you get the nerve to drop $650.00.

That was my original issue. I was going for the $155 + all the pinups when I realized I REALLY don't have the $ for that, so I dropped my pledge altogether. Damn that illuminated Lady... you lured me back to the clutches of KD.

The fact that I'm spending $71 on 4 models makes me feel like I'm back to buying GW models... then I realize KD actually knows how to sculpts a female figure. BTW KD that is what made me throw money at you guys. The way you guys sculpt the female figure in an actual healthy proportion is amazingly well done. Really hope though that KD eventually does event/encounter cards for all their models. I'd love to see a bestial form of the illuminated lady kinda like the dragon's human/dragon form.

 Colfax wrote:

 Lt. Coldfire wrote:


Edit: Well, it will eventually be sweet once the cross-eyed Picasso look is rectified in the sculpting process, I do say.

Since its a Guts/Gatts/Berserk model the base is probably a behelit. Google it

Ah okay, thanks. You're probably right.

 BlueDagger wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 BlueDagger wrote:
GOD DAMN IT.

Well that is a slippery slope. White Speaker Nico + Candy + Cola + Her = $71... and I'm not even getting the game. I need counselling...

$71? That's all? Call me when you get the nerve to drop $650.00.

That was my original issue. I was going for the $155 + all the pinups when I realized I REALLY don't have the $ for that, so I dropped my pledge altogether. Damn that illuminated Lady... you lured me back to the clutches of KD.

The fact that I'm spending $71 on 4 models makes me feel like I'm back to buying GW models... then I realize KD actually knows how to sculpts a female figure. BTW KD that is what made me throw money at you guys. The way you guys sculpt the female figure in an actual healthy proportion is amazingly well done. Really hope though that KD eventually does event/encounter cards for all their models. I'd love to see a bestial form of the illuminated lady kinda like the dragon's human/dragon form.

I agree with BlueDagger. The main reason I like KD is the female figures, but more than that, because they have healthy proportions. And because I'm a perv and want a lot of sexy pinups!

Just about to hit 1.75M...

Talk about a sprint to the finish!

Here she is, the final optional pinup, the Twilight Witch!

Next goal set at 1.8!!!

.....

If that 1.8M goal is what I think it is, my wallet is going to be very, very cranky...

Female Twilight Knight, no doubt.

Crap, I managed to stay away from this for the last month....And now it looks like it's going to cost me $350.....I hate kickstarter...

Ok.

I think I am "just" going for a Resin-Pin-Up Collection.

I'll be dropping a BF USD 130,- Survivor at 5 minutes past my time.

Would love for a Dakka-guy (or girl) to take it (if interested).

As much as some of this sounds interesting, I'll wait for general release, and to make sure Poots doesn't just take his money and run to some tropical island to live out the rest of his days there (cause that's what I'd do)

Good luck to those of you that have pledged, and to poots. Ya've got a lot of work ahead of you.

I am getting pretty silly sleepy!!!! ~

 Alfndrate wrote:
As much as some of this sounds interesting, I'll wait for general release, and to make sure Poots doesn't just take his money and run to some tropical island to live out the rest of his days there (cause that's what I'd do)
.

mental note dont back kickstarter started by Alfndrate!

 Zweischneid wrote:
Ok.

I think I am "just" going for a Resin-Pin-Up Collection.

I'll be dropping a BF USD 130,- Survivor at 5 minutes past my time.

Would love for a Dakka-guy (or girl) to take it (if interested).

Did this already get snagged?

SEEEZZRR wrote:



Did this already get snagged?

Yup. It's gone.

only 3 hours left you can do it kingdom death!

Money Cannons, ready! Aim!


Fire!


It's insane. I keep alternating between upping my pledge and dropping out entirely the higher it goes. Decisions, indeed.

 kingdomdeath wrote:
I am getting pretty silly sleepy!!!! ~

Silly Poots! #wishlist Grand Mother? Or is that too silly?

Who thinks we can hit 2 mil by the end of this?

 Rainyday wrote:
Who thinks we can hit 2 mil by the end of this?

We've got just a bit over 3 hours. It's definitely possible.

I do.

Well, it's at 5030 Backers and slightly under USD 190.000,- missing. That's an added USD 38,- per backer to bring it to 2 Million ... assuming no actual new backers join.

3 Hours Remain!

We have unlocked Allison the Twilight Knight, a promotional pinup reversal miniature that will only be available thru this kickstarter and future Kingdom Death special events! This is Allison The Pinup Twilight Knight, reimagined as a normal fully fledged Twilight Knight!

You can add Allison the Twilight Knight to your rewards by adding +$15 to your pledge. She will come with a one-shot challenge scenario, a promo gear card and a promo hunt and settlement event card.

Our next goal is at 1,900,000 !

WILL WE MAKE IT!? WILL I PASS OUT!? WILL THE MOON CRASH INTO THE EARTH?! WE SHALL FIND OUT SOOOOON!!!!

Only one thing to say to all that...



And in the interest of being more constructive, Allison as Twilight Knight is definitely something I must have... possibly in multiples...

Love her sword.

Twilight Knight... check
Female... check
(almost) Kickstarter-only... check

Fuel to the fire, that's for sure.

 Buzzsaw wrote:
Only one thing to say to all that...



And in the interest of bing mroe constructive, Alison as Twilight Knight is definitely something I must have... possibly in multiples...

You said it brother,

but I'm even more interested in that sillhouette

 Zweischneid wrote:
Well, it's at 5030 Backers and slightly under USD 190.000,- missing. That's an added USD 38,- per backer to bring it to 2 Million ... assuming no actual new backers join.

Something to keep in mind - the last hour of the Kickstarter is going to be very slow/crashy based on the final hour(ish) of previous popular kickstarters.

The dastardly Mr. Poots strikes again!

I almost made it...now I have to plan things out and get a pledge...

Is that a spidercules human form? Wow that was unexpected.

I won't be near a computer when this ends...

I wonder how much to add as 'insurance' to get this last goal?

Unless it is a 'freebie' add on for Spidercules?

He possibly should have given a few more details on this one upfont, to avoid disappointment at the end...

That new Twlight Knight is just beautiful, shes attractive and nicely armoured, makes this kickstarter all the more worthwhile. The new goal looks intresting, some sort of punkin-head/slenderman/marionette thing.

Schmapdi wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Well, it's at 5030 Backers and slightly under USD 190.000,- missing. That's an added USD 38,- per backer to bring it to 2 Million ... assuming no actual new backers join.

Something to keep in mind - the last hour of the Kickstarter is going to be very slow/crashy based on the final hour(ish) of previous popular kickstarters.

That's very true, but I did notice that they have a paypal link.. it's very likely, that you'll be able to add to your pledge after the time limit. At least with many other popular projects that has been an option. (Dice rings, Star citizen, and Project eternity are a few that I've backed that had that option after the fact.)

Looks like something out of the Nightmare Before Christmas.

mokotochan wrote:

Schmapdi wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Well, it's at 5030 Backers and slightly under USD 190.000,- missing. That's an added USD 38,- per backer to bring it to 2 Million ... assuming no actual new backers join.

Something to keep in mind - the last hour of the Kickstarter is going to be very slow/crashy based on the final hour(ish) of previous popular kickstarters.

That's very true, but I did notice that they have a paypal link.. it's very likely, that you'll be able to add to your pledge after the time limit. At least with many other popular projects that has been an option. (Dice rings, Star citizen, and Project eternity are a few that I've backed that had that option after the fact.)

Be very careful: Adam has repeatedly stated that you will not be able to add to your pledge afterwards.

Is it possible he will change his mind? Anything is possible, but he certainly hasn't shown any inclination towards doing that, as it creates an enormousness amount of extra paperwork for him (and more importantly, Anna ).

mokotochan wrote:

Schmapdi wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:
Well, it's at 5030 Backers and slightly under USD 190.000,- missing. That's an added USD 38,- per backer to bring it to 2 Million ... assuming no actual new backers join.

Something to keep in mind - the last hour of the Kickstarter is going to be very slow/crashy based on the final hour(ish) of previous popular kickstarters.

That's very true, but I did notice that they have a paypal link.. it's very likely, that you'll be able to add to your pledge after the time limit. At least with many other popular projects that has been an option. (Dice rings, Star citizen, and Project eternity are a few that I've backed that had that option after the fact.)

Adam has said he will not be offering that due to the complexities involved for an (essentially) one-man show. Now, whether he holds to that with late-breaking stretch goals and/or KS issues remains to be seen.