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The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/17 19:42:26


Post by: Dr H


Thanks OMN.

Theo', He could also have taken off the damaged helmet and put on the breathing mask (all those pouches have to hold something after all).

Thanks CK.

Thanks Comrade. Are your danger stripes different from all the hazard stripes all over it?
There will be some red danger lines at some point too.

A little more on the forklift this time.
Tidied up the metals all over it and I've done the lights.

With a rare bit of osl for me.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/17 20:49:39


Post by: CommissarKhaine


I like it. Very subtle OSL (which I prefer), all the lights ar elooking good. Can't wait to see this thing al dirtied up, it's really going to look like it 'belongs'.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/17 22:17:31


Post by: Meer_Cat


Man, that forklift just gets better each day. As CK said- it's getting to the point of really looking 'real'!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/18 12:21:51


Post by: inmygravenimage


And that orange is an excellent contrast. Brill


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/18 14:55:22


Post by: Dr H


Thanks CK. Yeah, I don't like "forced" osl. It can distract so easily from the rest of the model. This was just white with a tiny touch of orange in blended out (by removing the orange with solvent, rather than wet-blending with more paint). I was surprised at how easily it worked out in the end.

Not much more to do, all the signs and symbols, anything I've forgotten, and then weathering.

Thanks M_Cat.

Thanks Graven'. I was only going to do the top light in orange, but then I painted the other two...

And some progress on the marines:
Painted the faces of Mr Ultra and Mr Salamander.

Of the many photos I took this one of the Ultra actually looks good up close, and with that mask, the dark skin of the Salamander doesn't have much actual detail to show off anything but very subtle blending.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/20 00:20:51


Post by: Camkierhi


SM are looking cool and the forklift is just beautiful bud.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/20 15:30:09


Post by: Yorkright


Every time I see an up date on the forklift I have to remember that was built from scratch. Primaris faces are looking good, but what about eyes? ;-P


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/20 19:24:54


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Cam'.

Thanks York'.
and
(for those not following York's thread, we recently had a conversation about painting eyes; he's trying it out, I don't tend to do them)

And with some final flourishes, they are done.

Brought together under extreme circumstances.
They are the last, best hope for all humanity.
Each with his own special skill set.
Together they form a force greater than the sum of the individual parts.
As different as they are, they work together against a common foe.
They are...

...as yet unnamed...

Group shot:


#1 "Air" the Raven Guard.


#2 "Earth" the Imperial Fist.


#3 "Fire" the Salamander.


#4 "Water" the Ultramarine.


#5 "the Fifth element" the Blood Angel.


and to finish the "Hero shot"


You wouldn't know they started with 2 identical pairs.
The A, E, F, W markings were easier than I first thought. Together with the V for "the fifth" they use V and I transfers with a few painted on additions.
While they all have a little battle damage to tie them together (there's a lot of togetherness with this squad ) there's no dirt because the dirt don't stick.

They'll be up on Etsy soon.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/22 14:30:41


Post by: monkeytroll


Forklift is great, loving that. And I did go back to find the tentacles, nice work


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/28 11:22:50


Post by: shasolenzabi


Crane is looking great!

Marines are also shaping along nicely!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/28 11:34:41


Post by: Theophony


If Rainbow Warriors wasn’t taken as a name .

They look great Dr. H, now you just need me to win the lottery to have you build a whole army of these guys.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/28 15:19:27


Post by: cormadepanda


With their powers combined they form captain emperor. Heros our hero going to take heresy down to zero. Captian emperor gunna save the imperium of man some day.

Curse you captian emperor.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/29 20:18:37


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'.

Thanks MT. Yay, tentacles!

Thanks Shas'.

Thanks Theo'. Well, you can always start collecting with this squad, they are up in my Etsy shop: https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/609241143/space-marine-intercessor-squad-b-unique?ref=shop_home_active_1
But let me know if the lottery comes through...

Thank you Comrade.

Moar forklift...
All the little signs and symbols.
Clean and varnished.


Next job is the weather it up and hide the sins...
I'll try to document every stage.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/29 20:22:08


Post by: monkeytroll


Hmmmmm.

Yep. Still liking the forklift


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/30 00:04:45


Post by: Yorkright


Same here, fork lift and other items are looking great Dr. H.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/30 09:59:12


Post by: inmygravenimage


It's the tiny details, like the tape on the boxes, that blow me away


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/30 12:28:08


Post by: CommissarKhaine


That thing is looking more amazing every time I see it... And loving the pallets as well, amazing attention to detail!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/30 14:44:11


Post by: Gitsplitta


The palets and cargo are fantastic... such a perfect accessory for that amazing forklift.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/04/30 21:50:45


Post by: Meer_Cat


Incredible detail; as you say, it 'tells a story'!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/02 16:57:32


Post by: Dr H


Well, I did try to get a good series of photos to show every step of my weathering, but due to being a quick method I couldn't stop to check if all the photos were ok. I took many to ensure that some might be alright to use though.
However, of the 50 or so photos, half of them are out of focus, and half of what's left have bad shadows hiding what I'm trying to show, and from what's left after that... I can't tell what's changing from one photo to the next...

So, without examples, a quick run through of my method for the weathering you'll see below:
Start with patches of rust: on this forklift I'm not doing chipped pant leading to rusty metal, this is old worn paint and rust from edge to edge...

...for chipped paint I sponge on the patches as the "undercoat", then add metal within those, then rust within that...

Sponge on the patches with a brown (plus a little red) where needed.
Then add some darkness to the middle of those patches by adding a little black to the above paint mixture.

The streaks are added using the dark rust paint mixture:
Starting from the origin of the streak, paint a squiggle of paint downwards about half the length of your desired streak.
Add large drops of white spirit either side of this paint (I am using Enamel paint, can't say how water would work for water-based paint) and let it drag the paint with it to create the start of the streak.
While still wet, add more paint to enhance the streak, if needed/wanted. Paint towards to origin as the paint will be strongest at the point you remove the brush from the surface.
Let dry for an hour or so.
Use an old paintbrush that has had all the bristles worn down to a rounded lump and dampen it with white spirit, use this as an eraser to remove tide-marks as the paint dried and/or to shape the streaks further to how they have formed.
let fully cure.

Repeat the above with lighter / darker paint mixtures to lengthen the streaks / darken the centre of the streaks.

If there's a call for it, I'll knock out a properly photographed version.
Or I'll try and get better photos next time I'm weathering something...

See the results below...

Replies first:
Thanks MT. Good to hear.

Thanks York'.

Thanks Graven'. The tape on the boxes is actually tape: I used sellotape to hold them closed as glue dried and decided to leave it on. Painted it lighter than the rest of the box and gave them a gloss finish.

Thanks CK.

Thanks Gits'. What's a forklift without things to fork...

Thanks Meer'. And now it has some "age" to it's story.

As I said, the weathering is to show age and wear-and-tear on the paintwork, not the usual battle damage paint chips.
No mud splashes either, as this is a city dweller. So just some grime in the crevices.

Lots of photos to show all the details:
Forklift... Done!



To show rotation and separation of the top and bottom sections:


The pallets:


Scale shots and closer views:

Note the "no step" and "hand hold" signs in the above photo.

Closer views of the cab, it's lights, and the osl:


Interior of the cab, or at least the best photos I can get of the interior...



Together at last with the workshop:


And picking up a friend to take home...


Zoom in, enjoy all the details, vote, and open your wallets... these'll be up in my Etsy shop soon...ish.

Thanks.

Next... something Nurgley...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/02 17:53:27


Post by: Gitsplitta


Exalted! Really, really amazing work! Has been a joy from beginning to end watching this project come to fruition. Congratulations!!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/02 19:06:35


Post by: Theophony


Great job Dr. H, all the pieces go together great. Also love the set up with your alien crashed ship, almost like the forklift operator forgot to tie the cargo on for extra safety and dropped it .

What’s next on your agenda?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/02 20:32:16


Post by: CommissarKhaine


+1 on the exalt. Excellent work, hope it finds a loving owner!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/03 01:05:59


Post by: cormadepanda


Dude that forklist and shop are amazing. I am in love


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/03 01:29:27


Post by: monkeytroll


Great job all round, but I'm particularly liking the lights, excellent work.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/03 11:36:02


Post by: inmygravenimage


Really outstanding, and particularly, as mt said, the lights are luscious. Great stuff, and looking forward to you returning to the fold


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/03 21:01:59


Post by: OneManNoodles


Good work on the marine squad. Interesting idea to have the chapter symbols blacked out. the bases and trims painted the same do help to bring some cohesion to them.

The forklift is really quite amazing though, it looks more like a kit than a scratch build. The subtle illumination from the beacon light on top is quite special. Your cardboard boxes actually look like cardboard boxes .

Its fantastic to see it all together with the mechshop. Awesome work all round

Bitten by the Nurgle bug as well I see.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/03 21:04:10


Post by: Dr H


While I'm in here, I may as well bathe in the adoration for a bit...

Thanks Gits'. Good to hear you enjoyed the ride.

Thanks Theo'. Yeah, the crash piece is the only bit of terrain I have to show models in-situ. although that position is pretty much the only place I could fit the forklift on. Picking up or dropping off... it's up to the observer.
Next is something disgusting...

Thanks CK. We can only hope. Soon hopefully, I'm running out of space.

Thanks Comrade'. And this is love you can buy.

Thanks MT. Yeah, came out well, and the gloss finish helps.

Thanks Graven'. Ja, got to clear some stuff up before I can dig into the box and see what's next, I think it's Pox walkers or more plague marine types... it'll be a nice surprise for all of us.

The workshop and forklift are now up in my Etsy shop. Difficult to really know how much to charge for them really, the workshop went on for so long, stopping and starting, the forklift seemed so quick in comparison. Went with my gut feeling for price, probably a bargain... get them while they're cheap...
Workshop:
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/598089938/tabletop-terrain-workshopgarage-miks?utm_medium=SellerListingTools&utm_campaign=Share&utm_source=Raw&share_time=1525380720000&utm_term=so.slt

Forklift:
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/611937443/scale-model-near-future-multi-legged?utm_medium=SellerListingTools&utm_campaign=Share&utm_source=Raw&share_time=1525380756000&utm_term=so.slt

Ta



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh hai, OMN. Snuck in there as I typed.

 OneManNoodles wrote:
Good work on the marine squad. Interesting idea to have the chapter symbols blacked out. the bases and trims painted the same do help to bring some cohesion to them.
I'm sure I read it on the Dark Imperium release thread here on DDakka, someone mentioned about a book, released at the time, that had a squad like this with the chapter symbols blocked out with a grey square. I made a mental note to do this on one of the DI squads. But maybe I dreamt it... take inspiration whenever it hits you.

The forklift is really quite amazing though, it looks more like a kit than a scratch build. The subtle illumination from the beacon light on top is quite special. Your cardboard boxes actually look like cardboard boxes .

Its fantastic to see it all together with the mechshop. Awesome work all round
Thanks. The highest of praise for any scratch-build. Your resin bits helped out though.
The cardboard boxes are quite fun to build too, once I'd wrapped my head about how actual cardboard boxes are put together.

Bitten by the Nurgle bug as well I see.
I have the Dark Imperium box set to work through. The plan was to get it early and sell them all while the buzz was strong... sadly I don't work that quickly (and I've made many other projects in-between) and I'm still working my way through the box I've had since release day.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/06 12:10:24


Post by: Dr H


A quick update to show the next projects on the table(s).

As I said above, something disgusting, this way comes: Pox walkers, it is.
And you know me, half of them are going to require modification. The 20 total is made up of 10 pairs of identical twin miniatures. I don't do identical mini's...
I've (mostly) put them all together and will set about chopping them up to re-pose and change bits.

And in addition to that I'll be painting the figures from the Scythe board game ready for the end of the month.
For those not aware of the game, I have 5 factions, each faction has a main character figure with a "friend" animal, and 4 "mech" figures each.

Brief overview shot of the lot after cleaning mould lines and assembly (of the Poxies):


45 miniatures in total, that should bring up my average painted mini' count a bit.

I'll cover things in more detail as I come to them.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/06 16:29:52


Post by: Gitsplitta


Looking forward to seeing your progress on all these new projects.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/06 19:57:56


Post by: monkeytroll


Ok, have to ask. I see a wolf, a raptor, maybe two types of bear....but what the heck is that other hero riding?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/06 20:17:43


Post by: Theophony


Not in order, but I think bear, bison, tiger, wolf and bird.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/06 20:32:56


Post by: monkeytroll


Ahh...bison, okay, I can see that. Good eye Theo


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/06 20:34:15


Post by: Theophony


 monkeytroll wrote:
Ahh...bison, okay, I can see that. Good eye Theo

I half remembered from the Kickstarter of the game but had to do some searches on the tiger.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/06 22:26:56


Post by: inmygravenimage


Excellent news here. I'm also at the poxwalkers puzzle stage. Interested to see your take on them.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/06 23:51:50


Post by: Dr H


Been boozing, so quick reply...

Thanks Gits'.

Lo MT, Theo'.
In order, left to right;
Red: Siberian tiger.
Black: Dire Wolf.
Yellow: great steppe eagle.
White: Bear.
Blue: Musk Ox.

More details when I come to them.

Thanks Graven'. I've noticed some useful joint rotations when I first looked at the figures, and a few of them have separate arms that I've not glued on.
A saw will be employed shortly and I'll, of course, fully document what I get up to with each one.
...weapon swaps, head swaps, extra tentacles... we'll have to see...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/08 00:35:53


Post by: Meer_Cat


I've seen those Scythe figures and companions before, but didn't know where they came from- thanks for the ID Doc! I look forward to seeing what you do with them!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/09 06:34:17


Post by: cormadepanda


you paint the strangest of models.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/09 13:31:36


Post by: Dr H


Ta Meer'. Yeah, Scythe board game. Was kickstarted and so has lots of bits and figures. Good game, but can go long; we've played 2 games so far and they've both gone beyond 3 hours. But we are new and learning, and there is 5 of us...

cormadepanda wrote:you paint the strangest of models.
I do try.

After a little research, they are primed and basecoated.

I'm starting with the mechs and will then finish off with the characters.
I also decided to "base" them all as the pictures I've seen of painted figures on plain coloured bases (my initial plan) just don't look right to me. They'll keep the coloured rims as well as having their colour as the main theme.
I'm aiming for unique bases for each faction; you should be able to see subtle colour differences between them in the below pictures, even at this basecoated stage.

These layers will mostly be covered up as is the fate of basecoats.
Most of the colours will be muted / desaturated to aim for realism, not the Space Marines splendour we're used to.

Going through the various artworks for these I can't find a general consensus on the scale of the mechs; some pictures will show them within woods and about "tank" sized, others will show them towering over trees and able to squash a town with one foot... So to get a scale for the bases I went somewhere in-between and about even for all mechs, and added a tree to one of each 4 mechs. I won't get any more complex with the bases as these are going to be handled as game pieces, and if these trees get knocked off they'll probably stay gone. But for now...


From the top:
The Rusviet (totally not Russians), will end up mainly red, probably with gold and black accents. Bases to look like Siberian permafrost.

The Saxony (totally not Germans) mechs will keep this mainly black look. Bases to look quite snowy.

The Crimean (totally not Crimea) will get a sandy yellow look (because nobody actually paint tanks bright yellow). Bases to be very rich and green.

For the Polania (totally not Poland) mechs I'm going to go for a white-washed look over green armour (hence the basecoat). Need to do some research into how this should look before progressing. bases to be not quite as "green".

And the Nordic (yeah...them) will get a mainly blue theme. Bases to be very snowy.

They'll all get their next coat of paint and a black wash for shading and lining. These need all the help they can get from contrast as they are so small; Not one mech stands more than 30mm tall...base included.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/09 20:10:53


Post by: monkeytroll


Look like perfect fodder for cyber-grots......


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/10 23:40:37


Post by: Dr H


MT: Yeah, they would probably work well for that. Don't know how you'd get hold of them without the game though.

Meanwhile, over on the other desk...

The first stage of modifications has been completed on the Poxies.
Arm and weapon swaps. Mostly using what is there in the models, but with a few additions from my box of bits. More work to be done...

Unaltered on the left of each picture.




















As I said, more work to be done.
These changes need to be "blended" in to the models.

And more changes need to be made:
I thought about swapping some heads about, but they are all so similar from one to another; staring eyes, wild smile/ rotting face, and a horn. The work needed to change them all around just wouldn't be worth it.
Their legs are also likely tricky to swap about, but may be able to repose one of each pair...

I'll need to give them some thought as to what to change.

I'll pop in to all your blogs soon, but a bit late to do so now. I have been watching though.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/10 23:57:32


Post by: monkeytroll


All these new (to me) models people keep working on....makes me want to go but more bits for the flesh-labs.

Rather than head swaps how about just some horn swaps?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/11 22:10:25


Post by: inmygravenimage


Very nice. Really inspiring. I shall thieve some of these.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/12 22:27:37


Post by: Dr H


Thanks MT. Good idea, I've been chopping along those lines, nothing worth showing just yet.

Thanks Graven'. Steal away, that's why I show the process.

and to show something, progress on the mechs:


Some need more work than others to be finished, but they all need some finishing touches.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/15 23:17:18


Post by: Dr H


Mechs are being varnished, so in the mean time... some more Poxies...

Swapped about the horns as MT suggested and then I had a bright idea about fixing all these swapped parts together... I mean, plastic cement does do a good job of making 2 plastic pieces into one, but you can always do more.

I remembered that I had my 3D printing pen and that the tip gets hot enough to melt polystyrene... I could use that to weld the pieces together and the melted, uneven, result would work for Nurgle models.
And while I had it out, I added some extra from the pen itself.



Still more to do.
Some putty work to add some tentacles,
and some changes to some legs... as yet, unplanned.
The posh coat chap, will have some alterations to the coat... make it more of a lab coat, y'know.

Until next time.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/16 00:25:51


Post by: Red Harvest


A soldering iron, but for plastic. Nifty.

Scythe is a fun game. With the painted gamepieces it will look pretty too.

The crane/forklift is just magnificent. A magnum opus even.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/16 06:48:00


Post by: inmygravenimage


Love the banter-bubble. Thanks for doing side-by-sides with these. I wasn't sure how well arm/head swaps would look with these, but it's very effective. Note to self...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/16 13:30:23


Post by: Gitsplitta


That's very cool work. Never heard of such a tool...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/16 18:16:57


Post by: monkeytroll


Good thinking Added enough variety to keep away the OCD.

How well does the 'resin' from the pen adhere to the plastic?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/16 20:48:46


Post by: Dr H


Red Harvest wrote:A soldering iron, but for plastic. Nifty.
Yeah, it has a ceramic tip so the plastic doesn't stick to it... much.

Scythe is a fun game. With the painted gamepieces it will look pretty too.
As I said, we've only played it twice and there's a lot to wrap your head around at first. Ja, see mechs below.

The crane/forklift is just magnificent. A magnum opus even.
Thanks. There's still quite a few things I'd change about it though... as always.

inmygravenimage wrote:Love the banter-bubble.
It just came to me as I was arranging them for the photo.

Thanks for doing side-by-sides with these. I wasn't sure how well arm/head swaps would look with these, but it's very effective. Note to self...
For some of them, if it's not stood next to the "original" then even I'm stuck to see what's changed.
For these massed troops types, it just a matter of changing the profile / silhouette enough. The fine details only show if you look closely, and that doesn't happen on the table (only for the photos on DDakka).

Gitsplitta wrote:That's very cool work. Never heard of such a tool...
Ta.
I showed it off when I first got it and had a play...



It's essentially the business end of a 3D printer, in pen form. They are cheaper as they require you to do all the moving and designing.
You need a steady hand, or not mind wiggly lines (and hence great for Nurgle miniatures).

I also used it on this:

Still available in my Etsy shop

monkeytroll wrote:Good thinking Added enough variety to keep away the OCD.

How well does the 'resin' from the pen adhere to the plastic?
Thanks, getting there.
This printer/pen can use PLA or ABS plastics, no resin.
I think what I have is ABS (the included packs of filament were not labelled) as it can be smoothed with poly cement.
If you hold the tip to the miniature before extruding, the two will melt together, no problems sticking together.

And like that, the mechs are done.
Fairly basic job as they are tiny scale (note the size of the vision slits and windows).
For scale, note that the bases are 29mm diameter.


I can now start on the character figures. They will be a lot more work individually.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/18 05:56:33


Post by: Yorkright


Hey Doc all looking good as usual, those pox walkers look very cool. Pretty sure Typhus doesnt care if the fodder is genestealer cult or hive workers , as long as they shamble and obey orders they belong in the army.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/19 21:02:54


Post by: monkeytroll


Looking good, but still can't help but think they're really just parts for the cyber-grots


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/20 12:15:24


Post by: CommissarKhaine


 monkeytroll wrote:
Looking good, but still can't help but think they're really just parts for the cyber-grots


+1 /

Loving the scythe mechs, really fits the theme. Their artwork is pretty spectacular as well.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/21 15:44:00


Post by: Dr H


Thanks York'. I hadn't thought about considering him (I'm assuming you're looking at the chap with the 'nid arm) genestealer cult. I just used it as a tentacle-y arm. Good thought though.

Thanks MT. You seem to do pretty fine with the parts you have at hand.

Thanks CK. Yeah, they pushed the boat out with the game's artwork.

I did take photos of the characters primed and ready, but forgot to post them. Not much point now that they are painted...

So the painted figures are (mostly) done.*

*just some tidying to do as I have spotted some things in the photos.

The animals and the basing left to do.

Consider these painting-in-progress.


Been focusing on these, so no progress on the Nurgles so far...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/21 20:01:37


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Loving the bear . Is bear-girl's gun barrel bent, or is that just perspective playing tricks?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/21 20:46:44


Post by: Dr H


Yeah, her's and Bird-girl's guns are bent slightly (in different directions, hence you can't see the other bend) .
I've tried numerous times to persuade them to the straight and narrow, to no avail...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/21 20:48:50


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Shame, still cool-looking models though!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/21 20:59:36


Post by: Dr H


No, wait, no problems... I had an idea and remembered my hairdryer...

...it gets very hot (like, hot enough I wonder how anyone could bare to hold it pointing at themselves) and can be directed fairly accurately...

...they are now straight.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/21 21:33:17


Post by: monkeytroll


Bad for the scalp, great for miniature surgery.....


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/21 21:56:50


Post by: Red Harvest


The hair dryer is an old (?) trick for dealing with bones and wizkids minis. Good to hear it works on these pieces too.

Gamepieces are looking good.

So many good boardgames out there now, and so little gaming time


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/21 22:34:11


Post by: Meer_Cat


Scythe figures are great! Other than horses (and one small eagle on a High Elf Captain's gauntlet) I've never painted critters. Looking forward to learnin' a thing 'er two.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/22 17:10:00


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


Still following your thread, just haven't posted much.

That was a cool way to display your conversions on the Poxies!



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/23 18:57:12


Post by: CommissarKhaine


 Dr H wrote:
No, wait, no problems... I had an idea and remembered my hairdryer...

...it gets very hot (like, hot enough I wonder how anyone could bare to hold it pointing at themselves) and can be directed fairly accurately...

...they are now straight.


Nice one!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/23 22:31:14


Post by: Dr H


monkeytroll wrote:Bad for the scalp, great for miniature surgery.....
Indeed.

Red Harvest wrote:The hair dryer is an old (?) trick for dealing with bones and wizkids minis. Good to hear it works on these pieces too.
Yeah, works very well on these. A short time in the heat and the guns (I've directed the heat away from the rest of the models) droop under their own weight. A couple of seconds out of the heat and they set in place.

Gamepieces are looking good.

So many good boardgames out there now, and so little gaming time
Thanks.
There are. We have a family boardgame night every Friday, so we get through quite a few (although there are regulars).

Meer_Cat wrote:Scythe figures are great!
Thanks.

Other than horses (and one small eagle on a High Elf Captain's gauntlet) I've never painted critters. Looking forward to learnin' a thing 'er two.
I've been referencing many photos on the internet, that's the first tip.
They are getting there. Two more to finish and then basing all 5.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Still following your thread, just haven't posted much.

That was a cool way to display your conversions on the Poxies!

Good to hear, Skalk.
Yeah, I'll probably use similar photos for the final shots.

CommissarKhaine wrote:...Nice one!
But you won't see them just yet...

I've finally got around to doing more work on the Poxies.

Thar' be tentacles...

The first chap has got one to hold the canister.
And the second, very tentacular, chap has had his leg fully converted into a tentacle... and I've added another tentacle for a 3rd leg (channelling Monkeytroll with this one).


Rather than leave this chap's "gas" mask hanging, I chopped it off and placed it in his new little arm's hand and made a new hose to connect it to the tank.


This chap was going to have a longer tentacle, but it was looking too similar to the below chap, so I shortened it...
...and it became... a tentacle. (internet points to those that recognise the tentacle).


And this chap kept the long tentacle, which gained suckers.


The last one has his guts twisting into a tentacle... that at the moment looks a little dodgy from the side (but that's just your dirty imagination).


I think these are up to the small detail stage, then it's painting and/or basing.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/23 22:54:05


Post by: monkeytroll


What a.....Day. Some sort of day...for tentacles, almost.

Well, can't fault you for tentacles, nice gribbly post.

It has to said, I do like a bit of third leg action to go with the tentacular games. The last guy really doesn't help himself with the raincoat as well........


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/24 08:37:06


Post by: inmygravenimage


This is not a blog, we'd've noticed by now Tentacles look excellent, I'm studiously waiting till you're finished till I do my next lot. The guy with the moved mask is definitely my favourite just now.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/28 16:23:37


Post by: Dr H


Thanks MT. Yep, you win some internet points.
Yeah, I'll have to be careful (or not) with how his tentacle is painted. Shouldn't be a problem for any follower's of chaos.

Thanks Graven'. No, I've not done any Slaanesh models... yet. I do have some plans on paper for my own army, but nothing has been fleshed out yet...
Just a few little additions for them and they'll be moved over to the painting desk.

Speaking of painting...
The Scythe figures are all done.
I stuck close to the official artwork for these to maintain ease of recognition on the gameboard.

and with that... photodump...go...


Together with the mechs of their factions (a full 25 miniatures):


And individually:
Olga and Changa (the Siberian Tiger).


Gunther and Nacht (the Dire Wolf).


Zehra and Kar (the Great Steppe Eagle).


Anna and Wojtek (the Bear).


Bjorn and Mox (the Musk Ox).


And the Mechs again, to keep them all together in one post:


As I said, the Poxies are migrating over to the painting desk, and the last of them are getting one final poke with the 3D printer pen before they go.

Notice, if you will, that the Tiger and Wolf both got painted eyes.
Found an interesting way to do them:
Black basecoat as always, but this time it's important,
Paint a light/pale yellow over the eyeball,
Gently scratch off the moist paint with a pointy thing in the middle for a nice small, sharp dark dot/slit.
Done.

The other miniatures all had pits for eyes, so no painting for them. As usual.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/28 18:54:12


Post by: Gitsplitta


The Scythe stuff reminds me of the movie "The Golden Compass"... which I thought was very cool by-the-way.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/28 20:09:17


Post by: monkeytroll


All looking good. Particulary like Wojtek, and like that they called the bear Wojtek too.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/29 22:49:58


Post by: Meer_Cat


Is Scythe's Wojtek based on the real bear that served with the Polish Army during WWII, drank beer and hauled ammunition crates? If he isn't, he oughta be!

Great work, Doc!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/30 15:34:21


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'. It's the animal companion thing isn't it?! I've not seen the movie though.

Thanks MT, Meer'.

As to Wojtek, I hadn't realised the link. Now that you mention it I do remember the story.
It is for the Polania faction, which has suspiciously Poland-flag-like, white and red livery.

A quick update to show the Poxies have been primed and "blacked".

Spot to differences...
I'll certainly have to draw them out in the painting.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/30 21:53:46


Post by: inmygravenimage


So impressed. Really need to do my own...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/30 22:52:04


Post by: Scarper


Disgustingly organic sculpting. Nice work!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/05/31 17:00:58


Post by: Big H


Those animals turned out very realistic mate!
And the poxwalkers are looking good too, seriously considering one of those pens now !


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/02 03:46:08


Post by: Yorkright


Those Scythe models are exceptional Doc, animals are my favs really shows how good a painter you are. As for the poxies I am looking forward to seeing how they turn out.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/02 17:04:46


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven'. Most of the changes, as you have seen, are chopping the arms off at the elbow and shuffling them about; you automatically get different poses. Same for the horns, but it is a less obvious change.

Thanks Scarper. Most of these are kit-bashing and 3D pen squiggles.

Big H wrote:Those animals turned out very realistic mate!
Thanks Big'. The photos do suffer from "extreme close up"-itis. They look even better IRL, if I say so myself.

And the poxwalkers are looking good too, seriously considering one of those pens now !
Thanks. The pen takes a bit of getting used to for "neat" work, but is perfect for Nurgle or 'nid work. Do your research before buying, there's a couple of different filament materials available, and they behave differently, some 3D printers only accept one material. This one I have can do both, but you need to adjust a variable resistor to change the temperature of the tip to do so.

Yorkright wrote: Those Scythe models are exceptional Doc, animals are my favs really shows how good a painter you are.
Too kind. Thanks.
The full set has gone down a storm on the Scythe FB page.

As for the poxies I am looking forward to seeing how they turn out.
Aren't we all?!

Speaking of poxies...

I always find things I didn't know were there when I start painting miniatures.
Things I noticed about the poxies now I've started painting: There's far less clothing on them then I assumed. Some of them only have a loincloth...
If you don't like painting skin, you won't like these. Conversely, if you want to practice skin tones, they'll do you well.

Also, as mentioned with my use of a 'nid arm, GS cult members would be welcome. So much so, that one of these already has a 'nid arm. I just didn't notice until now... even though I've cut that arm off one and moved it onto another. I remember thinking it looked particularly "corrupted", but didn't click until painted.

After a bit of "fun" research into dead body photos, I've done the base tones for the skin on them.
Still have to do the red "sore" areas, and the pustules, and tentacles, and guts, and details like that. This is just the base skin tone.
I tried to give them all a different level of decay/disease, and a few different skin tones etc. to mix it up a bit.


Onwards...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/02 18:08:38


Post by: Red Harvest


With all those things growing out of them, they remind me a bit of the description of what the Protomolecule does to the human body. (It's an Expanse reference. )


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/02 21:52:10


Post by: monkeytroll


Great start to the skin, the variety of tones along with the arms, horns and tentacles should provide a good mix when done.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/04 22:37:07


Post by: Dr H


Ta, Red'. Another IP that I have not seen, read or heard. I have heard of it though.
But yes, I get the feeling that these "additions" are not natural to the bodies, and am painting them as such.

Thanks MT.

and now with 100% more pustules and soreness... and some veins:

Still have tentacles and horns to do, as well as clothing (what little there is) and little details. As well as the running ooze from the open sores on their bodies.



Until next time...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/05 01:24:26


Post by: Yorkright


Poxies look quite good so far, almost to the gag reflex when I first looked at them. ;-P


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/05 09:44:08


Post by: inmygravenimage


Pustulicious. Very impressive and conversions look completely natural (well, unnatural, but you know what I mean).


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/06 05:27:12


Post by: OneManNoodles


Great work on the poxies thus far, the repeated sculpts always bugged me on them, with some paint on them its hard to tell which are the conversions and which the originals.

I don't recognise the mattock, where did you get the head on it from?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/09 23:43:14


Post by: Dr H


Thanks York'. Good to hear.

Thanks Graven', MT.

Thanks OMN.
The majority of the weapons are from the original mini's.
If you are referring to the chap with the little arm holding the gas mask, his weapon is the arm and pipe from the 9th original (the 'nid arm holding a 2-handed weapon) and the end is the end of one of the 2 holding guns with blades on the ends (8th original). I'll try to point them out below...

Painting update, slowly working on clothing across the lot of them. Lots of work for little apparent progress.
OMN, the chaps you are looking for are in the 4th photo, at the back (out of focus) the chap with the purple arm (spiky back) and the one next to him (nailed on shoulder pad).

Nothing finished on any of them yet, but something to show.

And the next job on the building desk is for the current LoER terrain contest (should I get it finished) and uses up some things from my box of "use this next" (which is actually 3 boxes, I need to use these things up).

Some background:
Many moons ago, I spent my own saved up money from birthdays and Christmases on a toy I really wanted (for no apparent reason as kids are tend to do); A Terminator 2 Bio-flesh regenerator playset. See below.

This came with a couple of terminator skeletons, a (vaguely) Arnie-shaped mould, and some pink powder that with the addition of water became pink goo that you added to the mould (with the skeleton inside).

Now, something like 2 decades later I'm going to use the mould to make statues (or pieces of statue) and build some terrain about them.

These are plaster casts and will become broken pieces...
I do have one whole cast, made from GS and Milliput, that may be used separately.

That's what I'm starting with... where this goes, I only have a vague idea...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/12 20:52:57


Post by: Dr H


Still contemplating what the "statues" will be built into, but in the mean time...

Most of the clothing done and ready to start the metals. Then it's goo and dirt.

Shock... Horror... I even did the eyes... Helps the crazy look.

Should finish that last chap's black jacket first.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/13 08:34:26


Post by: Big H


That "statue " looks like it would make some interesting scenary!

I'm liking your progress on the poxwalkers too, some spot washes and a few glazes here and there for the "goo and dirt" and you should be golden, so to speak


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/13 10:15:27


Post by: inmygravenimage


Lovely sticky plaguey goodness.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/13 12:48:57


Post by: Gitsplitta


Gribbly looking at it's best!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/13 18:58:49


Post by: monkeytroll


What a great kit that Terminator play-doh is....

Poxy, Roxy and Moxy all look happy in with their new friends.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/14 19:35:46


Post by: OneManNoodles


WhenI typed "Mattock" I actually meant "Mallet" ... two tools where if you swap them around you are sure to notice.

I see now, not paid much attention to the kit after decided they were not really my cup of tea.

Nice and colourful gribbles.




The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/15 00:07:09


Post by: Heretic Tom


Awesome work on the pox walkers! Great job with the green stuff dude.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/17 20:39:34


Post by: Private Benjamin


Hello and greetings from a fellow Commonwealth country, Canada!

I like to rescue models from eBay as well, so I checked out your Terminators



I never throught of gluing plastic miniatures back onto a piece of sprue so as to help the painting process!

It is refreshing to see your ingenuity, as well the finished work sir!

Your artistic talents are truly an inspiration, keep up the great work!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/17 21:11:08


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Big'. Yarp, to both. Poxies below...

Thanks Graven', Gits',

Thanks MT, Yeah, I have a few uses in mind for the rest of that playset.

Thanks OMN, Ah, the mallet is from the guy with the long coat.

and Thanks Tom.

Poxies are done.
As usual, I could spend hours more on them, but for small troops to sell it's not worth the time.

There's a nice mix of matt, satin and gloss finishes across the models; e.g. the biohazard suits, the black commissar coat, and a few boots are finished in satin. And, of course, the pus dribbles are finished in gloss.

Group photos:


Individual shots (vanilla models paired with the conversions):
1 and 11


2 and 12


3 and 13


4 and 14


5 and 15


6 and 16


7 and 17


8 and 18


9 and 19


10 and 20

Anyone who wears a lab coat worth their salt will have brown stains on the rear where they wipe their hands.
I also had a stain in the middle of my chest where I'd wipe my spatulas off, but that's more of a personal touch so didn't add it here.

That's another 20 miniatures done. Should certainly bring up this year's average.

In other news, I've started the base for the statue piece.
I didn't want the neat edges that a set of CDs would give me... so I broke up the CDs and arranged the pieces with no neat edges outward.
Then covered it in tissue / PVA.

Rough position of the statue pieces (there will be more), and the plinth will be in the suspiciously square corner at the right.

More soon...ish.

In the mean time, pop over to the LoER terrain contest thread and get involved:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/757802.page#9999861



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 Private Benjamin wrote:
Hello and greetings from a fellow Commonwealth country, Canada!

I like to rescue models from eBay as well, so I checked out your Terminators
*snip*
I never throught of gluing plastic miniatures back onto a piece of sprue so as to help the painting process!

It is refreshing to see your ingenuity, as well the finished work sir!

Your artistic talents are truly an inspiration, keep up the great work!
Lo Private', and welcome. Thanks, nice to hear.
Yeah, a dot of superglue on a foot will hold them enough for painting and is easily snapped off when it's time to base them.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/17 21:28:37


Post by: Yorkright


Pox walkers skin is exceptional, really looks like they are about to fall apart. How you come up with these ideas on building things is very cool.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/17 22:01:29


Post by: monkeytroll


The Pustulent Posse look great in all their happy, smiling, pox-ridden glory.

Statue base looks......well, like a base at present


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/18 03:39:28


Post by: Lamby


Disgusting pox walkers - in a good way


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/18 06:09:47


Post by: inmygravenimage


The various purple and yellow tentacles are by far my favourite, ace stuff.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/19 21:02:17


Post by: Dr H


Thanks York'.
I can't say. It starts with a seed of an idea and I just explore where that takes me. Once I've started a model it grows by itself; I don't plan the whole model. The size and shape of the things I use dictate where they go and what way around they should be.

Thanks MT. More added to the base below.

Thanks Gits', Lamby and Graven'.
The tentacle colours came from the 2 that were going to be the largest, until one was cut down (as it was too similar to the other). The cut down one became a DoTT reference in green, and the other one had to be purple.
I used those two colours to make the rest of them unique by alternating the colour of identical tentacles (but not all... not on purpose either) and ran with the punk look for the lot of them; they wouldn't look out of place in Necromunda.

Plinth added.
Made from a basic foamcore box and covered with card tiles to look like bricks. Will get a going over with plaster to bring them all together and add some more texture.

Statue pieces in rough position... the "plan" is to build some barricades about the fallen statue and make it a very story-driven piece. Small but with lots of details (hence making the base first, I'm limited to this size). There may be a companion piece with another statue, but we'll see about that later.


The statue pieces will get added detail sculpted on, like boots and clothing, but will keep the heroic bare chest for this one. Maybe a cape... laurel wreath...

I've also got another small project to get built soon, but need to do some research for that first. Stay tuned.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/20 18:16:42


Post by: monkeytroll


It's a Putin statue?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/20 20:04:56


Post by: dsteingass


Duke Nukem, Hero of the Imperium


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/22 14:52:02


Post by: Dr H


Somewhere between the 2?! It is based on the Governator after all.

But I'll probably try and make it more Emp'ror like.

Got the main pieces on to the base now. I'm seeing the upper body digging into the ground a little, and so I've built up some ground about it.
I'm going to fix the hand there and make a removable flag (for ease of storage etc.) to be held by it.
You'll also see I "plastered" the plinth too.

Not that you can make out much detail amongst the WHITE...


I can now work on sculpting the clothing details on these... Bring fourth the milliput...

And as you can see it in the background there, the other project is underway.
At what stage can you tell what it's going to be?

Now he's standing I can work on giving him arms.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/22 16:42:43


Post by: monkeytroll


Some iteration of Robby?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/25 17:25:27


Post by: Dr H


Gold star for MT.

The back of the "head" was filled in with a piece of foamboard (to support the top piece) and 2 lumps of tissue/PVA (I don't want him becoming too top heavy), covered with a layer of plaster, and then finally the smooth layer of milliput.

The body has been bulked up with 4 layers of card (alternating the join at the back and front) and finished with a layer of plasticard and the edges with more milliput.

You can see I boo-booed with the position of the central square-ish hole in the plasticard layer. Easily fixed with some more glued on and milliput to finish.


Let this cure and then maybe I'll finish the legs before starting the arms...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/26 21:44:55


Post by: Dr H


Don't let him hear you say that. Robots have feelings too (if they're programmed to).

Further details added.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/26 23:17:44


Post by: Fango


I'm loving the Fallout robot Dr H! Is it to be used for anything gaming related? Or, are you just doing it for display/funsies?

Can't wait to see him painted up.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/27 02:27:06


Post by: monkeytroll


Nice I'm obviously waiting for the gyros and other bits as they're as close to cabling Robby gets And intrigued to see how you deal with the dome itself.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/27 21:24:04


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Fango. It's a present, on request. So just for display.

Thanks MT. I have plans for the dome, but we'll have to see how that turns out as to whether it gets included.
I tried to find a suitable clear dome in my junk collection, but didn't find anything. So it'll need making or leaving off...
Initially, I was thinking of making the top solid and painting on the internal details, but that will only work from one angle.
Plan is to make a former from miliiput (as it can take high temperatures), and melt some plastic (or, as a last resort, hot glue) over it with a blowtorch (a la Camkierhi).

Arms on...
Used my last bendy straw to do the extended arm, and used a piece of wire (might have been a paperclip in a past life) to attach the hand to the shoulder and hot-glued the straw over it to keep it in place.

Hands are carved from sprue, of course.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/27 22:15:25


Post by: Fango


Ok, Dr H. do you do any resin casting at home? if so, you can buy clear resin...you could make a mold from the narrow 'top' end of a plastic easter egg, and cast it in clear resin...or even locate a transparent easter egg, but that might be harder to find, or prohibitively expensive to procure just for this project....at least with the resin casting route, the investment in materials goes towards whatever else you want to make molds and castings for.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/27 22:43:33


Post by: monkeytroll


Arms look great, as expected

I did wonder if you might be thinking of leaving the dome off...it's not an easy shape to source via usual routes.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/28 01:37:36


Post by: Meer_Cat


I'm wondering if there isn't a cheap, garish beauty product out there- a face powder or perfume or something like that which sells for $5 a gallon that mightn't have a clear cap that would be somewhat dome shaped? I occasionally accompany the wife-unit through the cosmetics aisle loking for treasures at Walmart and such places (hairnets make great camo netting). ???


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/28 15:46:07


Post by: Theophony


You might try looking n toy stores in the girls aisles as there are plenty of collectible little pet shop type things and they come in clear plastic containers. Not sure if any would be the right shape though.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/29 10:29:21


Post by: Gitsplitta


Thats looking awesome.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/29 17:29:29


Post by: Dr H


Thanks for all the ideas.

Fango wrote:Ok, Dr H. do you do any resin casting at home? if so, you can buy clear resin...
I do, and even sell some of my casts.
I did think about it, and I have at least one other project that could use clear resin for, but it's quite a bit of money and quite a lot of stuff to acquire (volume-wise) for one little thing and a lot of time and effort (he says after all the time and effort put in to the mess below) to make moulds.
Maybe, one day, when I do have a reason to get hold of some clear resin I can get the Robot back and make him a clear dome.

Thanks MT. Yeah, I hoped to find something to use as the dome first and then I could build the rest of him to match it.

Thank M_C. I have quite a stock of ex-beauty product pieces, but none matched close enough, clear or otherwise. It's a surprisingly specific shape.
(I do have a huge stock of various netting sizes though)

Thanks Theo'. Does involve buying things though, I'd like to make use of the junk I already have, without spending on increasing it.

Thanks Gits'.

I now present to you my experiments with a blowtorch... and I still have most of the hair on my hand...
I tried numerous pieces of clear plastic that I had (in my box of "clear things") and you can see the results of a couple of hours below:

At the top left you can see the shape I've made from milliput (over foil, it's not solid), and a mess of melted, burnt, discoloured, and hole-y plastic scrap.

It's a very complex shape to try and stretch or bend the plastic around, and if I didn't burn or discolour it in the process, the thin molten plastic often tore open.

I also tried my hot-glue idea. It showed promise...
I spread the glue over the dome and roughly smoothed it over with the tip of the gun, and then waved the blowtorch over it to melt it all into a smooth dome, which looked perfect on the mould...
But I couldn't remove it without damage, and the finished piece really isn't solid enough for a final dome.
Interesting for if you want to cover something with a layer of smooth clear-ness, so long as it can take the heat required. You're just not removing it intact afterwards.

Therefore, the plan now is to use the dome I created as a mould, as the dome.
I'll paint it up as a reflective surface (NMM stylee) and leave it removable so you can see the internals.
I can then use this as the master for when I do acquire some clear resin in the future. I can perfect it's shape as well, rather than the guess I've made with it so far.

Other progress with the robot is around the back.
It needed a "frill" of fins about the "neck", and rather than make hundreds of little plastic fins and sticking them together, I set about making a lump of putty that I could saw the lines into.
This meant it needed to be separate from the robot...

So, I placed cling film (which failed in performing to half it's name, and didn't "cling") over the robot and placed the putty over that, in place.
Once cured, it was removed and I could saw the lines into that and then glue it back on to the model.

I added a little GS to the milliput to make it stronger for handling... I still broke a bit of it and had to glue that back together before sawing.

Now to finalise the shape of the solid dome so that it sits in place, and then it's little details.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/29 21:27:25


Post by: Big H


You might try those clear plastic disposable cups from kids parties , place it over your mold and very gently warm it with a hot air gun, I think the blow torch is too hot and will discolour the plastic.
Plastic cups shrink like crazy and will slump onto your former quite well if done steady enough, I made replacement cockpit glass like this once.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/29 21:45:59


Post by: Ruglud


For some reason I always get confused between Robby and B-9 (lost in space).

I'll second the use of a hot air gun with a plastic drink bottle...

Spoiler:



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/30 07:10:17


Post by: Yorkright


Always thinking outside the box Dr. 2 very interesting projects going on at the same time. Looking forward to them both but the broken Emprah has me the most intrigued.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/30 20:39:25


Post by: inmygravenimage


Ninjago spinjitsu stuff is the right shape, domed clear plastic. Would work a treat.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/06/30 22:11:28


Post by: Klaus, not Santa


Have you tried to use hot, boiling water?
Put the clear plastic in for a few seconds, so it gets soft, and then pull it over your mold.
That "should" work
Good Luck


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/01 20:59:23


Post by: Dr H


Thanks again for many more ideas.

Big H. I don't tend to get invited to kid's parties these days.
I don't think we have a heatgun, hence going straight to the FIRE. I'll investigate.

Ruglud. They're all Robby in a way... I couldn't have named the other one off the top of my head.

Thanks York'. I will get back to the statue piece, but Robby has a deadline that's much nearer.
As for out of the box thinking, just look at the stream of ideas we have here from everyone, for one problem. This is why I hang about DDakka.

Graven'. Yeah, those do look close to the shape. Again, it's buying more things I don't need.

Thanks Klaus. I didn't try boiling water, I wouldn't have expected it to be hot enough to mould the plastic. I'll investigate when I revisit this problem.

Yes, so the "clear" dome is on hold for a bit. I "need" to move on to other things before throwing it out the window... Nah, it's not really that bad, but I do need to crack on with this project to get it done on time: I still have to paint it.
Once it's done and painted, if I have time I'll try the dome again.

Therefore, I have fitted the "mould" to the model. My estimate of the required shape was a "little" off and required removal of a lot of material... and the whole top and back of the dome... and a fair amount of the sides too.
I then used a small ball of foil to re-make the rear of the dome. You can still see the join in the finished piece, but I think it's flush; primer will show it up if not.
Then it all needed some more carving and sanding to get to the shape you see below.

It's not perfect, in shape or fit, but it's as good as it's getting at the moment.

I've also magnetised it at the rear, just so it's doesn't easily fall off.


I'm now going to make the fiddly bits and get it primed and painted asap
Then, I may revisit the clear dome.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/02 22:32:56


Post by: Dr H


And a start on the details:

The 3rd photo showing where I have carved away at the balls for the waist and "mouth" area details. I used a combination of engraving and filing bits for the Dremel for this.
May thin down that front piece of the waist a little.


The bits on the sides were made from a single piece of round sprue: I sawed the lines around the whole and then cut it in half. Sawing in half first didn't work as well.
The front "face" parts are a plastic rod, half a plastic tube and some pieces of plasticard cut to shape.

Now to find a way to make some of the tesla-like coil things (maybe using the Dremel as a lathe), and his radar-alike setup. I have found rings for his "ears" though.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/03 01:10:27


Post by: Fango


Fantastic! It's coming along nicely Dr H. Can't wait to see this thing painted.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/03 23:02:08


Post by: monkeytroll


Nice! That,s bringing him to life now he has features and

I know if means buying something, but there's a variety of different sized jewellery beads that would fit the bill as the gyros.

Like the 'fake' helmet, eminently suitable if you find no quick solution for the clear version.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/05 16:01:50


Post by: Gitsplitta


He looks fantastic!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/05 21:31:10


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Shas'. I do whatever is necessary.

Thanks Fango. Painting soon.

Thanks MT. I have many beads already, however, see below for gyros...

Thanks Gits'.

Done and primed.
A little tidy up required of some rough edges, but painting will begin.


Have to get him finished this week, thankfully it's a fairly simple paint job ... except for the NMM reflective glass dome... There's a first time for everything...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/05 22:01:03


Post by: monkeytroll


All cool Very fun piece.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/06 12:53:35


Post by: Gitsplitta


LOL! The back angles make it look like he's got "plumbers butt".


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/06 16:11:25


Post by: Yorkright


Oh Gitz now I cant look at him without seeing that. Great job so far Dr.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/09 22:17:52


Post by: Dr H


Thanks MT, Gits', York'.
You're a bad man, Gits'. I'm sure it's just to angle of the photo and won't be apparent in the following... Right?!

As I suspected, the painting wasn't that "in depth". So no further pip photos, straight to "done", and just in time so no clear dome at this time; we may well see this chap again once I have some clear resin to hand.

I didn't fully explain myself in the build process, I realise, and I did do a few unique things. Here's a quick run through before the final photos:

The rings on his "ears" are metal rings a found (in my box of "rings and disks"). They were identical and had a gap in them.
I opened the gap,
wedged in a piece of paperclip,
wrapped the join in fine wire,
and soldered it all together and filed it neat.

I did mention making the "frill" around his "neck" (there's a lot of relating body parts to parts of him, without being able to just label things directly). Keeping it separate by sculpting it over cling film around the neck and then cutting the grooves off the model.

The spinning gyros about his "idea light-bulb" are coils of wire, coiled at 90o to give a 3D shape. To represent the original intersecting disks at 90o .

The last thing to mention is the Tesla coils at the bottom of his "face".
I turned these with my Dremel by placing pieces of sprue in the Dremel chuck and resting my razor saw (and/or file) on it as it spun. 7 or 8 attempts to produce these 4 and the base of the "idea light-bulb" (same but in a cone shape).

As to the painting:
The body is all Humbrol Metalcote paint. Darker gunmetal in the recesses and polished steel across the bulk of the model. Buffed up nice and shiny.

And the dome is my first attempt at the NMM landscape reflection technique.
I probably could have gone a bit more desaturated with the brown to give a more "glass" look to it. Other than that, fairly pleased with the result as a stand in for a clear dome.

And here are the final photos... for now.


Better views of the legs and some close-ups of the "head" and dome (note reflection of the ring):


I can now get on with the other "current projects"...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/09 23:15:09


Post by: monkeytroll


Great stuff. Impressed with the reflection on the dome, does the job nicely.

I'd have maybe added a hint of blue to the metals, but that's just me. You see him in a variety of finishes, plus colour correction, so for me it's a matter of which you prefer.

Good job


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/10 00:22:12


Post by: Gitsplitta


I think he looks FANTASTIC!

*smirk*


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/10 09:02:14


Post by: Red Harvest


Nice robot. Geez, it must have been 40 years since I saw that movie... Leslie Nielsen before the Naked Gun movies...

Say, how about a photo or two of Robby ( its name IIRC) next to a ruler or something to indicate scale. I'm having a hard time judging it from the photos.

Also, an excuse to get more photos.

The only criticism is emphasize his 'eyes' a bit more. A stronger contrast between them and the cones they are mounted on. Perhaps paint the "irises"?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/10 14:20:45


Post by: Dr H


Oh yeah, I did neglect to include a scale shot. See below.

Thanks Joe

Thanks MT. I looked at many reference photos of NMM models, and of mirrored domes to get an idea of what was required.
I hadn't really thought about doing anything to the metal colour, I just used these metalcote paints and polished it up. I don't know how the polishing would work if I adulterated those paints, maybe an experiment for the future.

Thank you Gitsplitta.

Thanks Red'.
I can't actually say I've seen the movie... hmm. ...and 40 years, that's before me too.
I didn't realise those are the eyes, I may have put more work into those if I had. Next time maybe.

Scale shot. He's probably larger than you expect:


I didn't intend to build him so large, but that's how he came out from the starting parts I found.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/10 20:34:18


Post by: inmygravenimage


He's fantastic, and the "reflection" on the dome is stunning.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/10 21:58:16


Post by: Fango


He looks great, Dr. H. The reflection painted on the dome is very cool. Overall a fantastic build from start to finish, thanks for sharing it with us.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/14 16:23:20


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven' and Fango. Glad to hear it.

Back to progress on the statue piece... and this is just work for what I'm going to build my actual idea around...

I fixed the broken hand and added a piece of plastic tube to allow a flag to be inserted.

and started on sculpting the boots for the statue.
A thin layer of milliput over the plaster and then adding detail in layers.
I made the boots just high enough that I can carry one over the break onto the legs on the base. That leg still needs the trousers sculpted on, I just wanted to show you the process and that particular detail.
Straps and toecap detail in GS, Looks a bit odd at the moment but should come together with paint.
Channelling a bit of Judge Dredd with those boots, rather than 40K, but it is intended to be the Emp'ror...the ultimate "judge" as it were...

Just a cape to add to the torso and leg sections (will keep bare chest for heroic purposes). Then I may be able to get on with the actual model...


Just as a reminder to those browsing, this is for the LoER terrain contest, here on DDakka.
It's open to all, head on over and join in.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/757802.page#9999861

and speaking of contests, Nerdy has launched his 5th Nercademy awards contest. Get your paintbrushes out and pop over there... fabulous prizes to be won.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/760377.page#10063022

They are both fun contests and will teach you lots...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/16 20:58:06


Post by: JoeRugby


Looking great so far Doc.

Looking forward to the progress as always


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/18 16:46:34


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Joe'. Progress, such as it is...

Added a cape, starting from an old superglue tube (could not open the tube up for the life of me, only really needed one side for a scaffold) and covered with milliput.
I made it less cape-like (and therefore more statue-like) by giving it a flat bottom and a support piece between the near side and the statue's leg.
Continued it up and over the shoulders on the torso piece, and finished it with a length of chain (the only piece of plastic on this so far).

While I was at it, I extended the hair on the head into a ponytail and continued that onto the torso over the cape.

And then finished the basing with my usual mix, but with added pathway.
the slabs were made from plaster that I squashed between a piece of glass (my putty palette) and a piece of plastic, to give a thin, flat piece that I then cut into squares...
...which were then placed and broken onto the base to form a broken path where the statue fell.


The head will end up on a shrine of sorts behind the barricade that I'm about to start on...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/18 18:11:52


Post by: Yorkright


Robbie is fantastic Dr. H, can’t add any more compliments that have not already been said.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/18 21:50:17


Post by: inmygravenimage


Your emprah is my super. I reckon this would work well for a ruined superman statue.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/18 22:55:13


Post by: monkeytroll


Or a vain, buffed, Slaaneshi champion


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/19 00:58:19


Post by: Theophony


No way I want to make one of Donald Trump . Luckily I’m terrible at painting orange, so the skin and hair should come out great.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/24 20:46:46


Post by: Dr H


Thanks York'. More of the same is always welcome when it's praise.

Thanks Graven'. With more effort I can produce whole versions. But yes, a superman would be possible from this.

That is also true, MT.

If I have an attempt that comes out looking ... hideous, I'll keep that in mind, Theo.

And now I have started on the barricade and deciding what details I'm going to add.

So far I've used a couple of bits from OMN to build the basis of the barricade, a broken wooden middle (and some scattered wooden pieces), and what will become a temporary shrine for the head.

I've also included the Dire Avenger I'm building for Nerdy comp' for scale purposes.


There will be battle damage added for one thing, Sandbags, ammo stashes, and a load of "signs of life" stuff.

Still plenty of time to get in on either contest.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/29 19:19:17


Post by: Dr H


And the smaller details have begun*

*thereby implying that there will be more...

Used a piece of "wood" to support the head, but mounted it at a slight angle to show that it is just resting in place as a heavy lump of rock.

Around the head I've added some candles, some of which have been knocked over when the barricade was damaged.
Just lengths of plastic rod, some with GS flames, and the knocked over ones with a piece of wire drilled into the tops.

I had to press-mould the skull for the gothic thing (another OMN item), as the ones I have were too bit to fit in. So moulded the face and then gently pushed it into the hole while it was still soft.

GS strap for the gun, but possibly not the final position; not glued in place as it'll be a bit fragile to be placed there, even if it fits there so well. May well make a dedicated mount for it somewhere else.

Found a use for OMN's teapot and used a piece of a OMN lamp (previously chopped up for another project) to make a hotplate. Just added a couple of bent wires for legs.
And a couple of bottles for flavour.
And a battery pack to power it.

And I added a spike that has penetrated the barricade as the first step of the battle damage.
Actually drilled a hole an poked it through as the simplest way to add it.


Now the weather has cooled down somewhat, I can focus on doing things.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/29 19:29:13


Post by: monkeytroll


Nice to see the Noodle Tea Set in the wild


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/07/31 22:41:41


Post by: Meer_Cat


Terrific detail, Doc- telling the 'little story' indeed'!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/01 16:11:37


Post by: Dr H


Ja, MT, I finally found a use for it.

Thanks MCat. Yep, really want to fill this with story to set it apart from a "simple" barricade LoS blocker.

And a few more little details;
A scroll for the shrine,
Some mugs,
A box (tea making things...?)
An ammo box,
Kill markings on the statue's shoulder,
Hung the gun up,
Grenades, knife and spare magazine,
Imperial eagle,
And ... Battle damage.



Most of the ideas I have left are to be done during or after painting, so I'll have a look at this for a bit and then it may be on to painting...

Oh yeah, I've also got to make the flag...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/01 16:26:35


Post by: Yorkright


He is coming along nicely Doc, I do get a chuckle when I see all the debris. Reminds me of old chewed up gum someone left on the ground. My guess is that it wont look that way once finished.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/01 18:48:59


Post by: JoeRugby


Always excited to see the progress of your builds Dr H, love the detail on it


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/02 21:37:47


Post by: Scarper


Not been on in a little while and WOW you have been busy! I love the storytelling in the diorama piece, and the fact that it's still going to be functional for gameplay. Looking forward to seeing all the tiny details develop. Also loved seeing it in it's current state and only then finding out that it's made from a 20 year old Terminator playset


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/03 17:06:03


Post by: Dr H


Thanks York'. My usual basing mixture, dried paint, plaster and scraps from the modelling desk. I find it works well for mud 'n' rocks.

Thanks Joe.

Thanks Scarper. Yeah, nice to get some more use out of the old playset.

Flag done.
Started from some spare paper I had laying about of the right width.
Cut to length (double what is required) and a rectangle removed from the middle.
Glued up and wrapped around the pole to glue to itself.

Played about getting the folds how I liked, then decided that I wanted it to have some texture.

Found some of that cloth that I used for the tarps earlier and soaked it in PVA/water, then laid that over the paper, poking it to keep the folds.

Then trimmed and used more PVA/water to soften and tweak the position.

Then added a ring for fastening the flag on the pole, a top to the pole (just had to be a skull), and tattered the flag a little.

Oh yeah, and it's still removable.


Will have to come up with some nice freehand for that in the end...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/03 18:09:28


Post by: inmygravenimage


The flag is excellent. Great job.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/05 01:49:40


Post by: insaniak


Yup. that's looking very cool so far.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/05 15:30:18


Post by: Snrub


Hey Dr H. Finally got through your blog. Better part of 29 pages full of lots of pictures.

I enjoy your diorama work. Not super familiar with the scale railway stuff, so it was interesting to see some size comparisons against 40k models.
The broken down statue is also excellent. (I want a terminator head on a table!)

Lots more stuff I could comment on, but I'll stick to the current stuff. . I say current (but that railway stuff is from a year ago... )


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/05 19:57:24


Post by: shasolenzabi


Loving that busted statue!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/08 21:08:04


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven'.

Thanks Insaniak.

Lo Snrub. Good job working your way through it all. And this is the smaller of my two blogs.
Lots of variety in here, in subject and scale.
Always good to hear comments on any of my work, at any time.

Thanks Shas'.

Statue piece is now primed and blacked. And only just got that done before we had a full power cut late last night, that wasn't fixed until late afternoon today (they had to dig up the path/road outside to do what needed to be done).

Hopefully that all makes sense now it's all one colour; the beauty of painting.

And with that moved on to the painting desk, a hole has appeared on the modelling desk...

Next group out of the Dark Imperium box is the Hellblasters (who's 12yo did that ask for that name?!).

and they come with a problem...
As we've seen with some of the previous squads, there are some multiples; 2 pairs of twin poses.
And those 2 poses are not greatly removed from each other either.
From left to right below, we have 1 to 5 (with 5 being the squad leader).


1 and 2 are identical, but I've modified #2 to be reloading.
This took removal of the hand from the gun (along with what is now a green section), to do that you also need to remove one of the ammunition pod things as it's connected to the gun and hand. Hence making him reloading.
Fine, I can live with that.

3 and 4 are also identical, but I've hit a brick wall with what I can do with 4 to make him in any way unique.
The usual things are just a lot of work or are useless:
Rotate about the waist = he'd look more like 1 and 2 then, even the 2 unique poses you are given look almost identical.
Re-pose the legs = with all the bits moulded on it's a lot of cutting / damage to make a minor change at the thigh. Not a lot can be done by only cutting the knees.
Re-pose the arms = I just tried to glue them on at a different angle and the body gets in the way of any angle that isn't identical.

Plus, with both hands on the gun and the gun tucked into the elbow/shoulder of one arm you can't easily move that.

As they are not chaos I can't even add tentacles.

So, if anyone's has any ideas, I'm open to thoughts.
Although I may go in one of two ways:
He stays the same and I'll do something in the painting.
Or I chop him up completely and re-build him. It's a lot of work to sink into him for little gain... considering that #5, the squad leader, is going to be chopped.

They are just so boring though!!!

Maybe I could give them some hats to make them more interesting...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/08 23:08:02


Post by: monkeytroll


No spare marine arms to re-purpose?

Could you repose one leg at the knee and adjust both feet to get a slightly different stance once on a modelled base?

This one looks like possibly a lot for a little, but removing the support hand (and the weapon rebuilding that will lead to), then slicing off right hand complete with rifle to repose at an angle not across the body....So either pointing out in a ramboesque one handed firing, or rotate the arm to bring the barrel straight up in a ready position.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/09 09:28:23


Post by: Snrub


As they are not chaos I can't even add tentacles.
Not with that attitude you can't!

chop him up completely and re-build him
This is the only correct answer.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/10 15:36:21


Post by: Dr H


Thanks for the thoughts.

I do have spare arms, but not a spare gun, and the gun will get damaged if I attempt removal, even sacrificing the arm totally; it's moulded to the whole forearm and onto the shoulder pad.
I could sacrifice the gun's stock to rotate the gun outwards, but that still requires shaving off the left hand (I do have spare hands to replace that one).

I did have a long look at re-posing the lower legs to have him stand on something, there's not much height he could gain to look significantly different. It may help with the changed arms above.

I'll see how the squad leader's gun re-position goes and see if I can face chopping this one up for a minor change.

While I consider this, I've been painting the statue:
I thought I'd go a bit special, rather than basic stone...

Can't quite decide if I'm entirely sold, the photos look better than my first impressions of when I did it...
I'll go with it for now, with a bit of dirt and grime it should look more natural by the end.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/10 17:46:02


Post by: Yorkright


Statue is looking great Doc, totally agree about the hellblasters name. A bit lazy on GWs part IMHO.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/10 19:05:20


Post by: monkeytroll


I have to admit I didn't clock the full length of the stock there. But that leads me to wonder on whether one of the squad might have removed the shoulder stock from his weapon? That looks like an easier option for removing the weapon and hand for use on another arm?

Marble looks nice, you're right, he deserves more than a lump of grey stone.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/11 01:29:04


Post by: Snrub


The marble on the statue is really well done, H.

Regarding the offending Hellblaster, if they arms/gun aren't so much a viable conversion option, what about reposing the legs? Maybe have him kneeling.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/11 15:44:48


Post by: OneManNoodles


Really nice work on the statue so far.

Well done on the marble, maybe its the colour choice but it very much makes me think of fallout 3 (less green). I love the flag it looks quite natural.

With the Hellblaster, depends on how much you rotate the waist. I thought they were more varied in appearance than that.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/12 07:40:13


Post by: inmygravenimage


The marble is stunning. Great work.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/12 20:35:21


Post by: Dr H


Yorkright wrote: Statue is looking great Doc, totally agree about the hellblasters name. A bit lazy on GWs part IMHO.
Thanks York'. Yeah, it's pretty standard for present GW really (and probably past GW as well, I didn't pay that much attention back then, I was building Airfix kits). It gets kids excited about things, and doesn't really put any of the older crowd off. Doesn't mean we can't take the mickey though.

Thanks MT. For the other sculpt the stock is not in contact with the shoulder pad, so re-posing that one is not so difficult. However, progress has been made, see below.

Thanks Snrub (I'm currently lurking in your new blog btw). I did think about making him kneel. but with the things already attached about his waist it makes it more difficult to move the upper legs.
It's not impossible, it's just more work, which is more time, for a minimal gain in what I can sell 'em for. Something I don't consider for my personal projects.

Thanks OMN. Been a while since I've wandered the capital wasteland... I've not done much about Boston either recently, come to think about it. Just not enough time in the day for all my hobbies...
The problem with rotating the Hellblaster waists is with the minor difference between the arms for the "at rest" guys, and the "aiming" guys.
#1 (and #2 before the change) is standing in the classic GW kick-me-in-the-crown-jewels pose, with the gun across his chest.
#3 (and #4 before his operation) is stepping forward and "aiming" across his chest.

There's only so far you can rotate the body to the right before it looks like his back is broken, and it won't look much different from stock.
And if you rotate the other way he begins to look more like #1; legs apart, gun across chest.

I didn't think these were going to be so limited until I pulled out the pieces and looked at putting them together.
For a squad of 10 (or 20 in the pox walker's case), pairs of identical models are not so easy to spot. but for a squad of 5, all with identical guns, it really stands out that they all basically look the same.

Thanks Graven'.

Thanks Gits'.

Good to hear you all recognise and like the marble effect (I deliberately didn't mention it being marble to see if people would notice).

Plodding along with painting bits on the statue piece, so no update there yet.

The Hellblasters though, have an update.
While waiting to see what came about for the #4 problem, I set about chopping the squad leader, #5.
And actually there was little chopping, the gun arm was glued on at a different angle and the hole filled with putty.
The gun is resting on his knee, which I think we'd all do with such a large weapon while not in use.
The left hand was carved off the gun and I used a spare hand to give him an auspex to look at in all his squad leader-y important-ness.


And as you can see from the group photo, #4 did get his operation.

I chopped along the bottom of the shoulder pad and then down the back of the gun, sacrificing the stock.
The arm was then rotated outwards to point forwards.
The left hand was, again, shaved off the gun and I made him a new left hand...
...this was a 2-part press-mould of the tactical marine missile launcher support hand (the one often used for the joke plasma gunner shielding his face, apt for these chaps). As I wanted the hand to hang naturally and not stick out, I moulded it and then used the excess to build the thumb against the hand, rather than in the position it is in to support the missile launcher. I could easily chop the wrist to fit on to the arm. Much simpler than chopping the original hand, and fitting with putty to the new arm.
I then positioned the arm to be by the side.


That should do, I think.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/12 20:51:51


Post by: monkeytroll


I think the operation was a success Doctor......


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/13 18:57:40


Post by: inmygravenimage


Elegant and convincing. Good job dude.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/13 20:43:31


Post by: Dr H


Thanks MT.
Thanks Graven'.

Progress on the statue piece continues with the plinth in a kind of sandstone (I'm remembering the bell tower, but this is not quite as extreme in it's contrast), the wood, and the concrete / paving slabs.


Mud to do next, and then it's all the little bits before final details...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/14 16:46:19


Post by: Big H


Looks really good Doc, the marble effect is spot on !


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/18 16:44:48


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Big H.

And now with most of the metals done (there's a few small pieces that still need doing), together with the mud n' rocks (some of which will be made whiter to be marble rubble).


Old rusty metal plate, and I had to get some hazard stripes in somewhere.
The mechanicus cog piece is painted to be a concrete slab with steel and then brass around it.

Weathering, and therefore streaking on things like the bullet holes, still to do after all the little bits...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/19 03:50:20


Post by: Snrub


Top notch stuff, H. The weathering on the plinth is as about as natural looking as is possible I think. And the "scene" as a whole is put together fantastically.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/19 12:24:31


Post by: inmygravenimage


Looking good. I think it needs another strong colour spot though. Maybe with graffiti?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/20 14:01:31


Post by: shasolenzabi


Looking good! love every detail.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/20 22:47:26


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Snrub. Realism is what I go for. Good to hear.

Thanks Graven'. Colours are incoming (see below), there will be posters/signs and maybe some graffiti.

Thanks Shas'.

Went for red candles as the Imperium likes their red wax.
and a bit of OSL, which is why the majority of candles are on one side.


Smaller and smaller details are being painted, must mean the end is near... except for the flag, and the weathering, and the aforementioned posters...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/23 20:04:38


Post by: Dr H


Progress...
Getting near, I feel.
Good thing too, as the deadline is looming.



Just the flag to finish; adding details, we'll see how transfers react to that surface and/or I'll be freehanding something.
and some grass to add.
Then the weathering.

In other news;
I now have a Twitter account. It's not much at the moment, but I hope to have it as small, regular, updates. To contrast with the irregular FB finished project showcase.
Feel free to follow, like, share, comment, etc. either or both.
Links:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheMiniDetailsOfDrH
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Dr_Steve_H

and while I'm here, my Etsy shop too: https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/TheMiniDetailsOfDrH

Or just continue to read along here on DDakka, as this is where all the details will be for the modelling work.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/24 08:49:41


Post by: Camkierhi


Should not really be commenting but have to say this is spectacular, yet again bud, immaculate work.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/27 21:06:40


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Cam'. to remain impartial you just have to visit everyone else's blogs and comment there too. No problem.
Good to have you pop in.

and with that, it's done.

Photo-dump:
All round angles.


High angles.


Torso and flag.


Plinth and head-shrine.


Signs of battle.


"Flavour" shots.


I'll let you all decide upon your own interpretation of the story to see if I've been successful in getting across what I have come up with.

That now frees up space in the painting desk so that I can now move the Hellblasters over... although I've still not decided on a colour scheme for them...

But first, I have a minor alteration to make to my airbrush extraction hood.
Tune in next time to see what unfolds...

and just to bring these over to the next page, my other outlets of thoughts, pictures and products:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheMiniDetailsOfDrH
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Dr_Steve_H
Etsy shop: https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/TheMiniDetailsOfDrH


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/27 21:09:11


Post by: inmygravenimage


I love all the tiny moment of colour. They each have their own narrative


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/27 22:00:08


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven'. I did say I was going to add some colour to it...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/27 22:11:32


Post by: Littletower


That chaos sign made my eyes bleed a little, but it was worth it.

Excellent piece.

I have always failed miserably when trying to interpret art... IDK, wild guess: a lonely hermit, building an altar at the foot of the broken statue, found - and gruesomely treated, by the looks of it - by the desecrators?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/28 05:23:55


Post by: Big H


Oh mate. Really ? Mate, just really

Excellent work Doc !
Love the marble effect, and how dirt has spattered up the marble closed the ground. Tea pot and cooked etc just super and the blood spatter is the proper shade of dark for an exploded person !

I assume getting the decal to stick into the banner fibres took a litre of MicroSol ???

Interested to see how you adjust an extraction hood, I like to live dangerously and don’t have one !


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/28 21:22:36


Post by: Dr H


Thanks LT.
It is impossible to be wrong when interpreting art; it's your interpretation. Doesn't matter if it matches the artist's intentions, or anyone else's interpretation.
The good sign is that you can interpret it, and come up with a satisfactory story to what you see.

Thanks Big H. Really really.

Yeah, the transfers didn't quite fully conform to the surface. Probably could have used more microsol than I did. I used quite a few dry-brushing passes to make them look as rough as the surface, but they are still slightly smoother than the rest of the flag.

Big H wrote:...Interested to see how you adjust an extraction hood, I like to live dangerously and don’t have one !

I made my own a while back (page 50):
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1470/549077.page#9166790
The common cheap extraction hood just wouldn't have fitted on my desk, so I made one that would.
The build is documented in the pages before that link.

As it has been in use for over a year I was interested to see how much of a mess the rear section was in... and I was not disappointed.

I should probably clean it out more regularly.

Anyway, the modification I wanted to perform was to do with the power delivery.
It turns out that the 12V plug adaptor that I had used for it is from my network switch, and now that I have a purpose to use the switch again (new, network attracted 5.1 AV receiver) I had to find a new way to power these 12V fans.

It just so happens that I had recently watched a video on YT, by Bitwit, showing how to use a small voltage step-up converter to make a 12V PC fan run on 5V USB.
Video:
Spoiler:


Link to the converter supplied with the video: On American Amazon
Link to what I actually bought: On UK Amazon, from China

And so I am converting my airbrush extraction hood to run on USB, with a mirco USB connector so even phone chargers will work.

It has taken a fair bit of fiddling and trial-and-error to get it working, but it is working and I've soldered all the connections now.
Here's a before and after of the wiring:

I even kept the switch in place so I can plug it in and then turn it on. Ooo, I hear you say.

I found that while the fans should be connected in parallel so that they both get 12V, they just weren't getting enough current through the converter and they work better in series (I can still tweak the voltage delivered even further, so that's less of a problem).

The next job is to mount the converter in such a way that I can plug in a cable without it coming loose.

Oh yes, and scale shots of the statue piece:



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/29 15:51:50


Post by: Dr H


And for part 2 of the airbrush extraction hood upgrade; mounting the converter.


Pretty self-explanatory.

On to the next job...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/29 16:48:25


Post by: Big H


Making it low power USB is a nice touch, you should go full sustainable and rig it to solar charged batteries !


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/29 21:27:46


Post by: Dr H


Big H: Well we do have solar panels on the roof, so it is (kind of indirectly) solar powered as well.

And with the hood up and running I primed the Hellblasters.


I'm thinking of a unique paint scheme for these;
My first thought was to paint them as the Legion of the Damned, but with blue flames for the plasma. But I doubt they have Primaris marines... so...
I needed a colour to go with blue flames. I'm thinking red...

Thoughts welcome.

The next project on the chopping/modelling board is off the sprue and I'm now considering how to make changes.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/29 21:43:37


Post by: Theophony


Is solar power workable in England? I thought is was all dismal and dreary all the time .

Yellow marines with blue flames .You don’t see those everyday.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/30 14:07:56


Post by: Dr H


 Theophony wrote:
Is solar power workable in England? I thought is was all dismal and dreary all the time .
I'll have you know that we have 3 or 4 summers every year... they are usually only 3-6 days long each though. It's grey and/or raining the other 340-350 days of the year.

Yellow marines with blue flames .You don’t see those everyday.
I did also consider yellow. Was just leaning towards red.

Here's a quick "paint" job so we can all visualise...



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/30 15:02:33


Post by: Theophony


I see I finally have a challenger to who can paint faces as bad as me .

I was half joking with the yellow, but I could go either way. You see less yellow armies on the table though.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/30 15:25:05


Post by: Dr H


What's wrong with those faces, are they not correct in some way?

Trying to match these to any particular army is just going to limit those that are interested in buying them. Therefore, making them stand out as different (like the previous 2 Intercessor squads) is the better choice.

Joking or not, yellow is a valid choice.
With Orange being complimentary of Blue, it's perfectly valid to go either way to red or yellow....

...

...That said, I could go orange?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/30 20:03:29


Post by: Big H


I liked the Legion of the Damned idea, but could limit their sales appeal.....


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/30 20:50:01


Post by: Dr H


Ta, Big H. 'tis a tricky business painting to sell; you're always going to be limiting options.
The concept still stands though, a crack squad that joins an army for one fight. These are just plasma specialists, hence the blue flames.

Anyway, the hole on the modelling desk has been filled by the first of the single figures from the box; the Noxious Blightbringer.

There's not much I don't like about the model, except for the censors on chains that are all sticking out at an angle (makes it look like he's doing a twirl)...
...and the gun hand is at a funny angle, and might as well move the other arm as well, and the nurgling can be moved...

First step; Chop chop.
Then start to reassemble.

The nurgling will be walking alongside him, dragging the bell.
The censors will be moved into a trailing cluster, possibly with a cloak to match that at his front.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/30 21:54:04


Post by: Meer_Cat


On the marines- red scheme for troopers, yellow for officers?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/30 22:00:16


Post by: inmygravenimage


Like where you're going with this squire !


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/08/30 22:46:15


Post by: Stormwall


If you are choosing between Red and Yellow, might I suggest Howling Griffons?

Unique scheme huh. Yellow gets my vote.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/01 09:46:04


Post by: JoeRugby


The statue looks amazing Doc


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/01 21:33:30


Post by: Dr H


Meer_Cat wrote:On the marines- red scheme for troopers, yellow for officers?
Would that not get confusing on the table? Especially if they don't match the rest of the army.
Thanks for the input.

Thanks Graven'.

Thanks Stormwall. Yeah, unique. So that they can be inserted into any army.
They do appear to be heading in a yellow direction, see below.

Thanks Joe'.

Progress;
With the orange thought I decided to start basecoating them with orange so that I could go into either red or yellow, and I think I'm going to go for a similar yellow to Finnan's yellow eldar.
I doubt I'll pull off quite as beautiful a blend as he does, but it should be serviceable.

Currently, still a browny-orange, but only 2 coats of paint so far.

One more orange layer and then start introducing yellow to the mix.

and the Noxious BB has had some work too.
Started with a couple of thin wires and then glued some foil over them.
Glued 2 of the censors to that and started adding putty (and a third censor).

I'll tatter it once it's all solid.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/01 23:05:09


Post by: monkeytroll


Worn boots kicked up small puffs of dust from the debris strewn street, the slow footsteps sending a tiny, bright blue skinkette scurrying from it's basking place and into the cover of a fallen wall. Georgio Mac7 nodded in acknowledgement of the sudden movement. Obviously no-one had been through recently or else the lizard wouldn't have been out in the open. That was good, he knew it was only a matter of time before someone, or something, found his makeshift sanctum.
Georgio had found the statue of the Holy Emperor several weeks ago, damaged in one of the battles moving through the area, and it had awakened a pious streak in him he had thought long gone. The constant war, the loss of friends, family, hope, these had worn him down years ago, but something about the proud marble head had touched him.
Scanning the area around him, the old soldier satisfied himself he was still alone and stepping past the rough barriers hung his weapon on the hook he'd carefully placed in the remains of the plinth. It was an old bolter he'd won off an officer many moons ago, when he was young and wild, and one of the best scouts in the Glorious 93rd, long before he'd almost lost his legs in a firefight. The ancient weapon was still his prized possession, and he murmured a blessing as it swayed on the hook, above the grenades and knife he had left there partly as a stash, partly as an offering to the Emperor. Setting the pot of synth-caff to boil he lit the candles he had scavenged and placed around the head of the statue. It had been an effort to set the head on the table, and indeed an effort to erect the table, but he had been overcome with a sense of unease at leaving it in the rubble. Over the days following his discovery Georgio had created a personal shrine in the remains, and had found himself drifting there ever more often, finding peace in maintaining it, in contemplation, in prayer.
Today the candle flames seemed to be brighter, larger than usual, the light starting to hurt his head. He reached up to rub his temple, or tried to, finding he couldn't seem to move. The pain in his head increased, and he heard noises behind him, footsteps, grunts, and guttural speech. Today was the day, the day they found him. He was trembling now, moving not of his own accord, but at the behest of some dark sorcery. His head was a bright ball of agony now, and he could dimly feel his skin splitting, blood dripping from a dozen places. The Emperor was staring into his eyes, and that was a shield against the terror he knew he should be feeling, his main thought was one of regret that this place of peace was going to be desecrated. And that was his last thought.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/02 06:04:55


Post by: Snrub


Good work H.
The diorama is outstanding. The candles with the subtle OSL is my favourite part I think, and i'm generally not a fan of OSL. That and the actual concrete look you've achieved on the plinth.

Blightbringer is coming along nicely. Looks like he's pointing at someone. "If you don't shut up, i'm gonna come over there and club you with this here bell!"

Hellblasters are coming along nicely. What chapter are they going to be?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/02 09:34:36


Post by: monkeytroll


Can't help but think that orange is a nice base for a rusty, corroded squad.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/03 22:36:54


Post by: Dr H


Thanks MT. It's great that you got so much of a story from the piece. I'm touched that you took the time.

Thanks Snrub.
I'm of the opinion that OSL is best when it's subtle, and it should be on the majority of models that are usually painted in "daylight" (otherwise they'd be dark, and then the OSL can stand out).
Various layers of dry-brushing of various colours to get the stone look on the plinth. That's all.

Snrub wrote:...Blightbringer is coming along nicely. Looks like he's pointing at someone. "If you don't shut up, i'm gonna come over there and club you with this here bell!"
Yeah, that's my thinking of his pose.

Hellblasters are coming along nicely. What chapter are they going to be?
Unaffiliated. So that anyone can add them as "contractors" to their army.

Yeah, you would MT. These are goody-two-shoes marines. No corruption or corrosion present.
But may save the basecoat for a future Nurgle-ite.

No progress since last time. I did some FO4 settlement building yesterday.
But today I did knock out a quick side-project: organisation for my drill bits.

I bought some more pin-vices as my hobby drill (that I used for bits larger than 1mm) no longer holds bits firm enough.
These are what I got on ebay as they came with another set of bits that I already had (and had broken one).


More bits meant that I had an excuse to make something to arrange them in.
So I spent most of today measuring every bit (with a micrometer) and creating this:

Each bit drilled it's own hole (giving me a chance to use the new vices) and then sticks into some scrap foamboard at the bottom.
Plasticard top, bottom and sides, with a couple of support pieces down the middle to keep it rigid.
Left it open in case of mishaps.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/04 06:26:31


Post by: inmygravenimage


That is both efficient and terrifying


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/04 10:03:24


Post by: monkeytroll


I approve of the fact you didn't just put them in size order, but got the measurements down as well


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/04 21:31:48


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven'.
What's so terrifying about it? My Mum made "you're going to stab yourself on it" noises when I showed her.
It's stored at the back of my desk, and the bits are close together like a bed of nails.

Unless you're talking about my organisation? Then yes, I like things to have homes in the right and proper place.

Thanks MT. So many of them look identical I felt I really needed the measurements noted. Just takes the guesswork out of it.
Some are the same to 2 decimal places, but are arranged in order to 3 decimal places.

While the two packs of bits were supposed to house identical sets from 0.3 to 1.6mm in (mostly) 0.05mm increments, it's interesting how few are what I would consider "correct".
But then, I've measured micrograms to 4 decimal places. mm to 3dp is nothing.
That's what you get for cheap.
They'll do though, good range of sizes for every occasion.


Progress on the Noxious fellow:

Much invisible work to get the cape fitted nicely; it's attached to the backpack and whole thing is removable at the moment (for painting). Just a few points were clashing with parts of the model.
Also tattered the cape and re-fitted the shorter dangle-y chains... and y'know, positioned them in such as way that they look like they are dangling and not sticking out at an angle.

Painting of the marines is progressing, but not worth showing yet.

In other news;
The LoER terrain contest has wrapped and judging is in progress.
This means the public vote is on. Head over and vote for your favourite piece and give us a good result.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/763287.page#10138559

Ta.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/05 09:36:30


Post by: Camkierhi


Excellent work on the cloak.

I have the same pin vices, got mine from Proops off ebay. Not bad. And I am terrified by your level of organisation, I have "cheap drill bits too, In fact got a drawer full. No way I am doing this with them, I would have a full bed worth.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/05 20:18:00


Post by: Dr H




Thanks Cam'.

Next few layers of paint on the Hellblasters.

Just the start of adding yellow to the mix.
Many layers to come.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/07 15:56:44


Post by: Dr H


And many more layers.

More and more yellow each time, and then some added orange to the shading as they weren't looking so orange after all the yellow.


Highlights next, heads on, then the flame details...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/07 17:04:39


Post by: Gitsplitta


Yellow is challenging and you've done a great job.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/07 18:15:22


Post by: Red Harvest


Not really hard to paint yellow. just don't start with a black primer

Diorama turned out very well. Yes, I'm catching up.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/08 17:18:11


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'. Means a lot coming from someone as well versed in yellow as you.

Thanks Red'.
I started from a dark brown this time rather than my usual black.

It's just a matter of layers. Multiple layers cover the lower, darker layers, and lighter and lighter shades means each layer doesn't need to cover so well.
The relative transparency of yellow (and to a lesser extent, the orange) helps with blending the layers together.

Good to see you pop in and catch up.

On that note, be sure to pop over an vote for your favourite piece in the LoER terrain contest:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/763287.page#10138559

The Hellblasters now have their heads on, I've blacklined the crevices (although using brown), and highlighted the edges.


I think I'll stick them on their bases before moving on to the flames and smaller details; easier to get at certain angles.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/08 19:48:23


Post by: inmygravenimage


I really like those big plasma doodads, they look ace.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/10 08:57:17


Post by: Snrub


Wow, that's a really strong yellow. The unit is coming along nicely.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/10 21:42:05


Post by: monkeytroll


That is some nice yellow


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/11 14:18:53


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven'.

Thanks Snrub, I think it's the orange/brown shading; it gives it the contrast to shine.

Thanks MT.

They've now been attached to their bases.
Went so far as to drill through into a foot of each and have them pinned. With them glued on top of the basing (inc' grass) without it being easy to flatten a space for each foot they won't be quite so secure, the pin should help.

Why'd I finish the bases before attaching them? I wanted to use the airbrush to blacken some of the grass and didn't want to blacked their legs at the same time.
Why blacken? Plasma burns, of course.

I'm focusing on the bases in these photos so don't expect the figures to be in focus.


Now to start on the blue bits...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/11 17:04:13


Post by: Camkierhi


Beautiful deep yellow bud, well done.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/11 18:17:39


Post by: Theophony


The yellow has turned out really nice . Sooooooo many steps, but the end result is better for it.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/11 18:29:54


Post by: Fango


That yellow is superb Dr. H. Really well done, and consistent across the set as well.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/11 19:26:57


Post by: CommissarKhaine


While I'm not a fan of spacemarines, the numarines look a lot better than the old ones, and their guns look big and nasty as well. Nice paintjob on that yellow as well, makes me cringe just to think about painting that...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/12 19:56:34


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Cam'.

Thanks Theo'. and you've not seen absolutely every layer. But it's no more than any of my other paintjobs. Multiple thin layers is the way to go.

Thanks Fango. That's what comes from doing them all together.

Thanks CK. I have no problems with painting yellow (or any other "problem" colours) beyond any "easier" colour. It's all in the multiple layers; you can see in the above photos from the last few posts, early layers are not smooth coats. You have to persist with thin coats and the smoothness and coverage will come in time.

And with that, some blue added:


I had planned to paint the blue flames on the shins as well, but now I'm thinking that that would have been too much.
There will be some more blue touches about the place, but nothing major like the shoulder pads.

I think I'll do the metals next and see what grabs me as to what else can be blue.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/12 21:41:00


Post by: Theophony


Dark blue eye lenses maybe? Also the plasma glow in blue?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/12 21:57:02


Post by: Dr H


Oh yeah, those were a given, should have mentioned that. Forgot about the guns until I turned to paint them, the guns need painting too.

Certainly is would be silly to do the plasma coils anything other than blue after choosing the blue flames to match the plasma theme.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/12 23:10:09


Post by: Snrub


Good call on not going overboard with the flames, Doc. I'm sure it'd look fine with them on the shins, but it looks great without it too. Blue plasma would seem the way to go. Keep it cohesive. I'd go a different colour for the eyes though, if you haven't already. Orange or purple maybe.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/13 19:07:10


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Lots of thin layers... There has to be another way... Nice work!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/15 22:58:08


Post by: inmygravenimage


Loving your work sir. Going to have to paint me some yellow now.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/17 21:43:24


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Snrub. Eyes are often one of the last things I do. they'll be chosen to match the rest.

CommissarKhaine wrote:Lots of thin layers... There has to be another way... Nice work!
Ta.
Lots of thin layers is much easier (but not necessarily quicker) than one or two thick coverage layers, to get a look like this.

An alternative is to prime/basecoat in white and then blend to the shadows (I believe this is how JAH paints). But you'll still need many layers to get the blend looking good up close*

*The point being, that for the tabletop you don't need blending like this. A quicker spray coat primer, base colour, wash and dry-brush will do if you are not looking at them closely (and could potentially look better than the subtle shading/highlighting I do, from that distance).
But for display, and close-up photographs, many layers, wet-blending, and all the tricks in the book are the best way to get the "best" look. There's no major shortcuts. Just a matter of how close do you want to get; you can get 90% of the look with 50% of the effort, but for some of us 90% isn't enough.

Still further to that, develop your own style of painting. You don't have to aim for realism (as I do, with exaggeration for scale), you could go for a cartoon style, cel-shading, etc.
I've seen a few people paint in layers, but only have 3 or 4 layers total that don't blend together. You can clearly see the layers and they look like contour lines on a map, but done well, and consistently, it can still look good.

Thanks Graven'. You do that.



Not a lot of progress over the weekend. Went to a cousin's wedding on Friday and was spaced out for Saturday, and had Sunday off as usual.
Still, the metals are on and the weapons coloured in... but not finished yet.
Just to give you an idea of where the colours are going.

Of course I went for red guns... that's like par for the course on Marines.

and in other news:
Be sure to check out the next round of the LoER terrain contest. This time run by Monkeytroll and doesn't finish until after Christmas. No excuse not to join in... although I may be too busy myself as I have Birthday and Christmas presents to do in the same time frame.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/18 13:10:28


Post by: Gitsplitta


Honestly Dr H... I must admit that I'm not a big fan of the red guns. Otherwise I love them.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/18 21:12:11


Post by: Dr H


Not a problem, Gits'. What is it that you don't like about the red? Just a feeling, too much primary colour?
I did try to keep the red more muted than the yellow and blue with a brown undercoat. Maybe a wash of dark purple is needed (trying to keep it on the blue side of red rather than the orange side).

Still, been fiddling with small details, and I painted the squad leader's head.

He does look quite intent on that auspex.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/18 21:16:16


Post by: CommissarKhaine


I like'em, though I second Gitsplitta on the red. I feel it takes awya from the plasma glow.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/18 23:32:47


Post by: Snrub


The primary marines are coming looking really good, Doc. That yellow is just superb.

I'm ambivalent towards the red gun casings. They're not bad looking by any stretch of the imagination though.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/19 17:16:02


Post by: Gitsplitta


I noticed that (the muting of the red). I just think it's one too many points on the color wheel. It stretches the figure out in three different directions & doesn't really compliment either of the other two colors... it's just kind of there.

That being said... primary primaris is a very cool idea, and my opinion is hardly strong enough to re-consider the project.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/19 20:38:00


Post by: Dr H


[pirate]Yar, shiver me timbers[/pirate] Happy talk like a pirate day.

Thanks CK. See below.

Thanks Snrub.

Thanks for returning, Gits'. I see what you mean, and this was why I muted the red a bit.
But, as evidenced by the comments from you all, I was too subtle (as I often am).

I do have a view on equipment like this that is much of it is standardised and not part of the colour scheme.
I know most painters will aim for a fully harmonised colour scheme across each miniature, and yes this can be more pleasing on the whole.
However, for that I can see a squad of marines, for example, discussing their colour scheme and matching weapons, pouches, and purity seals like a group of teenage girls; "Should I take the red gun or the black gun?" "I like the green purity seals, they match my eyes better..." "does my bum look big in this?"

So I tend to paint bits of standard equipment in "standard" colours, purity seals are always red, pouches are always a khaki green...ish, SM guns are red or black.
I kind of like it when they don't quite match the colour scheme as it reinforces the "standard equipment" look to it.

I will tend to avoid wildly clashing colours, as I don't want people to feel sick while looking at them, but slight discontinuity to the scheme as a whole I think is fine.
The trick is to not use a strong colour for these things.
Hence muting the red.

and therefore, more muting was in order...

A purple wash and a grey dry-brush later.


Just need to decide on some squad markings or any other such details and these are done...ish.
and eyes/lenses, must remember those...

The blightbringer is waiting his turn on the painting desk (which is why you haven't seen much of him recently)
and I've just pulled out the bits for the next lot of miniatures from the box and they are waiting cleaning of mould-lines and the like on the modelling desk.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/19 20:45:56


Post by: Gitsplitta


That's better. It brings it a little bit closer to the blue. Just close enough that it doesn't feel "off" if you know what I mean... but still definitely red. Nicely done.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/19 21:26:05


Post by: inmygravenimage


Yeah, agreed, muted tones work really well.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/20 09:11:27


Post by: Snrub


That muted red works heaps better.
Blends in much better with the silver on the guns and doesn't detract from the blue plasma glow.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/22 13:26:20


Post by: CommissarKhaine


That's an excellent fix ( and a well-thought out explanation as well, love it when peope actually think things through)


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/22 21:10:03


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'. Towards the blue was what I originally intended, but was not bold enough. ta for the push.

Thanks Graven'.

Thanks Snrub.

Thanks CK. I spend a lot of time thinking about things for all my models... part of the reason my projects take so long.

With a final push they can be called done.
No major details in the end.
A skull to call out the squad leader, various lights and dials about the place and ... that's about it.
Prepare your sunglasses (plasmaguns, geddit?):

Zoom-able, vote-able, will be up for sale later...-able...

On to the next.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/22 22:28:37


Post by: Commander Cain


Mighty fine looking marines Dr H, the blue and yellow go great together.

Makes me want to pick up some Primaris marines but I worry that it will make my hundreds of other ones look silly by comparison


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/22 22:46:42


Post by: Tyranid Horde


The finished squad looks great! Love the look of the yellow armour. I liked both the toned down red and the red you initially did, not sure which I prefer.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/23 11:30:03


Post by: CommissarKhaine


+1 for thinking things through, though I'll agree it tends to cost time to get things right. Excellent finishing touches!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/23 12:01:17


Post by: Theophony


Squad came out great Dr H.

The yellow really is the star of the model, but toning down the red really helped the final fit together.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/24 10:14:41


Post by: Snrub


The squad of hellblasters came out really tight, Doc. The bases are simple yet effective. The olive belts/pouches help break up the yellow really well.

Top notch squad!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/24 17:12:15


Post by: Red Harvest


 Dr H wrote:
Thanks Gits'. Towards the blue was what I originally intended, but was not bold enough. ta for the push.

Thanks Graven'.

Thanks Snrub.

Thanks CK. I spend a lot of time thinking about things for all my models... part of the reason my projects take so long.

With a final push they can be called done.
No major details in the end.
A skull to call out the squad leader, various lights and dials about the place and ... that's about it.
Prepare your sunglasses (plasmaguns, geddit?):

Zoom-able, vote-able, will be up for sale later...-able...

On to the next.
Page roll, folks. You must quote for the page roll.

What was that old knock knock joke about bananas again.... Nicely Done doc.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/24 19:13:16


Post by: monkeytroll


Good work Doc, splendid little squad of yella fellas there.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/24 20:03:18


Post by: Camkierhi


Seriously nice work. You selling these or keeping them?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/24 22:24:06


Post by: Dr H


Thanks CCain. The yellow needed to be of an orange base to match the bright blue I wanted to use to keep them as complimentary as possible (actually a triad with the red).
I can't tell you how to run your army (literally. I have very little idea of how the game plays), but they'd be good as an elite squad of troops (rather than an actual elite slot... unless the Hellblasters are elite... I don't know).
Make the most of how much they'll stand out by painting them bold, like these.

Thanks Tyranid horde, and welcome to my corner of DDakka (I think, it's beyond the point where I remember who I've seen before or not, and having 2 blogs doesn't help )
As I said, I did intend for the red to be muted as they ended up, the initial red was much closer to my usual red-gun red. I liked the red, as itself, but one of the three colours needed to be darker (a good way to avoid the Christmas feel of a red / green scheme too).

Thanks CK. I'd rather be right than quick, it's a shame the world we live in thinks differently.

Thanks Theo'. This is why the community is great. Helps to reality check ideas.

Thanks Snrub. Especially for selling, simple bases are best, more likely to fit with any army. Yep, those things are perfectly positioned to break up the main scheme.

Thanks Red'. Bananananana...na na not Graven's thread.

Thanks MT.

Thanks Cam'.
Yep, sellin'. just got the listing done Go buy them here now now now


And in the mean time, the next project begins on the modelling desk: Inceptors (because that's not confusing with Intercessors about the place is it...)

First thing first. Those flight stands... no, just no.

So I need to tweak some things to get their poses right for more solid base attachment methods.

The first chap is minimally changed, but will be mounted in a lunging direction.
A move of the arms, tilt the head back and pin the right foot and you have this:

Oh yeah, and move a couple of the flaps on the backpack.

He's not glued to the base, he'll need raising up to a more expected height. The actual bases are tbd...

Number 2 is still currently under surgery.
I'm aiming for a pre-3 point landing pose, so one leg has been straightened and the other bent.
There's not a huge amount of play in the knees really, this is about as extreme as you can go.
Vanilla on left, modified on right.

and the current state at the bottom there, filling gaps with bits of plastic.

That should keep you going for a bit.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/27 21:28:03


Post by: Dr H


And number 2 came through the operation well.
Notice the filled gaps from the plastic above, with added putty for the final touches.

Imagine him crashing down through something.

The bases are going to have to do the "heavy lifting" when it comes to making these chaps stand out from the crowd.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/27 22:25:32


Post by: monkeytroll


Not fond of those models as marines, but see potential in turning them into some generic sci-fi jump troopers

Nevertheless, interested to see what you do with them....


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/27 22:26:07


Post by: Tyranid Horde


 Dr H wrote:

Thanks Tyranid horde, and welcome to my corner of DDakka (I think, it's beyond the point where I remember who I've seen before or not, and having 2 blogs doesn't help )
As I said, I did intend for the red to be muted as they ended up, the initial red was much closer to my usual red-gun red. I liked the red, as itself, but one of the three colours needed to be darker (a good way to avoid the Christmas feel of a red / green scheme too).


Been lurking for a little bit, decided to comment on the finished pieces! I don't know how easy it would be, but you could try a crater effect of inceptor number 2 landing into the dirt or go for a cracked tile look with shards pointing out from the impact site. I do see you mentioned simple bases fit better into any army but it might be cool!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/28 19:33:55


Post by: Big H


I like the re-poses Doc, and agree the flight stands are garbage, however I think you need to base them on some urban ruins or something, as if they were skimming along and occasionally pushing off something larger ?

Like the yellow marines too, but not the red weapon casing, would have used black myself. That said it's top notch work, I like your stuff a lot !


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/09/29 21:05:36


Post by: Dr H


Thanks MT. I will hopefully make them look cool nonetheless.

Thanks Tyranid horde. I'm going to try and keep these at the same height as would be expected if they were on their stands (to avoid any "modelling for advantage" talk).
These will be the exception to the "simple base" rule.

Thanks Big H. Yeah, was thinking of some kind of "tactical terrain" that these will lug about the table during play, and making that something that can be in the process of being destroyed.
Ta. Each to his own.

And the third is together.
Had to move one of his hoses as it clashed with the backpack. I can see him crashing through a wall of some kind...


So yes, significant basing to be added, action orientated, keeping them at their "stock" heights.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/01 12:11:28


Post by: inmygravenimage


Loving how you're doing these, really nice to see these have good modification potential. My boys are really into watching your take on Primaris.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/01 12:25:03


Post by: Snrub


What are your thoughts on ease of conversion for the Inceptors, Doc?

I really dislike the models as standard, but i'm pretty sure it just comes down to those weird ass pogo shoes the have on and the silly totally-not-heavybolters-we-swear.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/01 15:30:47


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven'.Hello boys, glad you are enjoying my work.

Hi Snrub. They're ok.
For minor changes, like I have done here, it's pretty easy:
The shoulders can be rotated about their axis with just a cut of the pegs,
You could potentially change the angle at the shoulder by shaving off the contact face on the arm (I didn't, the arms here are just rotated).

The elbows are only more complicated than any other marine arm by the addition of the cable; that can be bent for minor changes or replaced with GS.

The guns would be pretty easy to replace.

And the pogo skids look to be easy to remove, just a saw across the bottom of the foot and shave away the pistons at the side of the foot.

The hips would be a challenge to alter greatly, as with all these single-pose models. But I did re-pose the left hip of the 2nd chap by sawing into the inside of the leg and up under the armour plate at the hip and bending the leg inwards. Remove the material right and there's minimal filling needed.

The knees are fairly easy as the lower leg comes separate from the thigh. You will need to remove a fair amount of material and fill quite large gaps to do big changes in angle (the hinge is on the thigh piece and the knee needs to rotate about that; no cutting it flat to get a good join). And then there's the cable again that will need cutting/bending or replacing.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/07 18:57:39


Post by: Dr H


And now for something completely different...
Spoiler:


But more seriously, It's that time of the year again.

Had a look through the box of train terrain and this lump of plastic grabbed me.

The grey plastic walls have been left unpainted except for some weathering (including soot stains above the doors), and the interior appears to have been painted after the roof had been stuck on (as you will see below).

First job was to remove some of the excess glue areas, and disassemble to a point where painting would be easier.
Then I've added some extra details to fill up the interior a bit,
Re-glued the windows in and added some extra plastic strips to hold them in more firmly,
Stuck it on the base; a piece of thin card that will make it easier to incorporate the finished piece into a full layout should that happen at some point.
And added the track.


And now to take it to the next level and add some vegetation, re-assemble, and (leaving the roof off) paint to my usual level of detail.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/07 21:33:42


Post by: inmygravenimage


Number 9. The larch. The larch.

Also, that's awesome. For your dad?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/08 02:20:23


Post by: Gitsplitta


Lovely. Where's the locomotive or car that needs repairing?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/10 20:25:45


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Graven'. Indeed it is.

Thanks Gits'. All the trains are in pretty good shape. I will throw one on for the final photos though.

Ready to paint.
The roof is not attached, will be firmly attached once the inside is painted.
The roof for the outside bit (English failing me) is glued to the roof.
The gutters are glued to the walls.




The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/10 20:29:23


Post by: Theophony


Canopy....awning....flat roof....

Needs moar skulls, blood and death.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/11 20:16:43


Post by: Dr H


 Theophony wrote:
Canopy....awning....flat roof....
Yeah, that's the badger, one of them. The joys of dyslexia.

Needs moar skulls, blood and death.
We'll have to see once paint gets thrown around...

In the mean time (while I wait for some paint to turn up), the first of the Inceptors (who is actually the second of the Inceptors) has the start of his base.

I have a block of resin, right in the middle, that he's pinned into (first photo),
Then I used one of my boxes and cut up the sides and arranged them about the top piece to create a squashed box.
Gaps to be filled with straw (plastic shavings saved from the sprue hut build).

The last photo there shows his height compared to one of the stands that should come up to the middle of his back (where it would "attach" to the bottom of the backpack).

2 more to do...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/11 20:54:39


Post by: Tyranid Horde


The crushed box looks sweet and it works well with his landing pose. Are the other two going to crash into some boxes as well or will you model them a bit differently?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/11 22:02:07


Post by: inmygravenimage


Loving the crushed box, it should be a Dr h release all of its own!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/11 23:15:45


Post by: monkeytroll


The first of the Inceptors is the second of the Inceptors. Is there a spinning top somewhere

Crushed box works brilliantly

Nice repair work on the train shed.



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/12 01:25:33


Post by: Theophony


Crushing the heretic box of the lesser known god Acme .

I ma cixelsyd oot .

The dyslexic agnostic insomniac philosopher stayed up all night pondering the existence of dog.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/13 18:07:39


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Now that's what I call a dynamic entry


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/15 21:50:51


Post by: Dr H


Thanks T'Horde. Ja, dynamic basing for all. If only just to get them all at about the right height to compare with the basic flight stands. But not all boxes...

Thanks Graven'. This can be achieved by any modeller with common modelling tools with my box kits (still available in my Etsy shop ) Moulding and casting this shape would be very tricky.

monkeytroll wrote:The first of the Inceptors is the second of the Inceptors. Is there a spinning top somewhere ...
...and second up below is the third Inceptor. Thanks.


Theophony wrote:Crushing the heretic box of the lesser known god Acme .
You tempt me with what details to paint on the box later...

I ma cixelsyd oot .
I cannot comprehend... rebooting... please stand by...

The dyslexic agnostic insomniac philosopher stayed up all night pondering the existence of dog.
Indeed. I see no problem here. Although, as an atheist, I don't believe in dog... or anything with more than 2 legs...

Thanks CK. It is the point of these chaps, is it not?

As I said, the third Inceptor up next.
And I got a bit carried away with building his destructo-feature-base... I mean, how else are you supposed to make a wall if you don't use individual bricks???

Some are made from plaster (to give him a solid base to be pinned to), but most of the less structural bricks are foamcore, minus paper, plus some plaster.
And then some thin plaster, broken up for the ... plastering.
And some tissue/PVA for insulation.


I'm thinking a fence for the last (first) chap.

In other news; the Junkube is on it's way to it's new owner. I wasn't entirely sure that anyone would actually buy that, and it's gone before many other things.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/15 22:42:47


Post by: Littletower


Have not commented for too long...

Old lurking habits die hard...

My locked-to-Spanish autocorrect is even more dislexic, hard to type on this!

Bases look great, but I need to see more of that train set!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/16 08:49:54


Post by: Tyranid Horde


Third inceptor is what I imagine inceptors do, smash through stuff! Nice to see in the 41st millennium insulation hasn't been lost to the dark age of technology


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/16 17:29:33


Post by: Dr H


Littletower wrote:Have not commented for too long...

Old lurking habits die hard...

My locked-to-Spanish autocorrect is even more dislexic, hard to type on this!

Bases look great, but I need to see more of that train set!
Lo again, LT. Good to see you pop in then.
Thanks.
A bit more train stuff this update. See below.

Tyranid Horde wrote:Third inceptor is what I imagine inceptors do, smash through stuff! Nice to see in the 41st millennium insulation hasn't been lost to the dark age of technology
Thanks. It's a bit more exciting to build and look at than the typical "tactical rock" of re-posed miniatures.

A bit of primer and black (and green) on the loading shed (I don't know what it's actually for, that's just what I've come to call it).
I think I'm going to leave some of the underlying paint visible to give some variation to the finish. Therefore no solid primer/basecoat layer.


Onwards...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/16 18:52:03


Post by: monkeytroll


Nice bit of wall smashing.

Good choice with letting the old colours bleed through on the shed.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/17 16:04:09


Post by: Dr H


Thanks MT.

Thanks Gits'.

Concept time! Thoughts required. What do we think?

The idea being that he's leaping over a metal fence (so we have one metal base, one wooden base, and one stone/brick base).
He needs to be that high up, as you can see the comparison to the flight stand.
Even just clipping the top, as he is here, that's a really high fence.

There will be added details to the fence to make it more fancy (think of an Imperial eagle and many twirly bits), and the top of the spike in the middle will be added so that it doesn't look like he's impaled.
There will also be a large bush at the bottom of the fence so it won't be as plain as it is here.


Thoughts? Will this work with more details on the fence and base?


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/17 17:19:32


Post by: Gitsplitta


He's going to get gigged like a frog by that middle post!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/17 19:02:00


Post by: monkeytroll


It doesn't strike me as being as immediately obvious as the other two with regards to the action. There's a chance it may end up looking like he's just chest-bumping a fence for some weird reason.
It probably won't, just doesn't instantly grab me in the same way as the others.

Maybe have the fence look a bit more damaged, steel reading under the force of the big lunk in power armour, or a bit lower, kicking off of a fence that's bent under the weight? Or turn it into a gate that he's bursting through?

Or trust that you will pull it off as you normally do



The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/17 21:32:03


Post by: Dr H


Gits'. Not in that armour, he ain't. I was going to add the top of that pole being bent over and hide the impalement. However...

Good idea, MT. Thanks.


I'll hide some more support for him inside the aforementioned bush, but you can see that he is supported even though he's not glued to the fence and it's not glued to the base (only 2 of the posts are drilled into the base).
Eagle will get some more detail... if only rivets...

Edit: Oh, and as to adding some more movement to these, I do plan some jet/flame effect for the jet packs.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/18 13:10:40


Post by: Gitsplitta


That did the trick!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/18 16:08:40


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'.

and some more paint on the train shed thing.

The subtle, underlying colour spots I planed to remain visible didn't survive contact with the enemy layer of paint required to get contrast on the bricks.
So I'll have to add them back in at the weathering stage.



I'll now focus on finishing the interior so that I can glue on the roof before doing the outside.
...must remember to do the back of the standing chap before that too...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/18 16:58:25


Post by: Gitsplitta


That's looking really good. I'll be getting the details of the interior done will really make it jump! Can't wait.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/18 18:19:02


Post by: monkeytroll


Armoured lunk looks more of an action hero now

Shame about the underlying colours on the loading shed, but looking great nonetheless.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/18 21:22:02


Post by: Camkierhi


Awesome work. The dark tones really suit the scene.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/18 23:58:13


Post by: Red Harvest


Nice work on the RR terrain.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/20 14:54:36


Post by: Dr H


Thanks one and all.

Interior done.
May not look like much, but there has been a lot of "hidden" work, such as fixing the lines of the windows where the original printed on design has flaked off (they are a minimum of 3 decades old).
Kept it looking dirty but functional.
As this is only going to be seen from a distance and only through the open doorways I did restrain myself from going too mad with details and painting.
And kept mainly to the original (my Granddad's) paint scheme. Just picked out some of the details that were already there.



Now to glue on the roof and finish the exterior.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/22 15:51:54


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'.

Progress is progressing. Getting near, so photos when it's done.

In the mean time...
I mentioned a while ago that one of my cousins got married. They didn't want any large presents as they are living in that USA place, and that suits me fine...
This is what I gave her.


It was inspired by their wedding invitations, that had a colourful, paint-splattered, background, and child-art like line drawings for decoration.
Having added my paint splatter, I was struck by how "space-like" it felt, so I went for a spaceship as the subject.

Using a "chrome" paint (Humbrol #191) I painted the ships lines and liked the effect of it coming into and out of view as the light played across it.

So I stopped while I was ahead.

Normal service will be resumed shortly.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/22 18:09:07


Post by: Gitsplitta


Now that is an awesome wedding gift!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/23 16:40:34


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Gits'. Nice to hear that.
They are the more "arty" side of the family tree, so an arty gift was best, I felt.
Had to let go of my personal art style and leave this alone; to trust in the concept and not get caught up in "realism".

I like to think of the ship being so shiny that it's reflecting the surrounding stars and nebulae, etc. to become almost invisible.
Rather than it being a line drawing that doesn't hide the background... It satisfies the devil on my shoulder a little bit.

Don't know how these "modern artists" do it and sleep at night.

Anyway...
On with the show, Inceptors and their bases.

As I said, I'd reinforce the fence of the first (3rd and last) chap's base and then hide it.
You can see the addition of a piece of wire under his foot, firmly glued in.
I then created some lumps of foliage, as I did for my Princess Mononoke build (in the other blog), and glued them about the wire to hide it.
I threw some paint in at the back of the fence and on the bases to make life easier when painting later.


I'm nearly done with the train shed, then I've got to paint the Nurgle chap, Mr. Blightbringer, before I can paint these.
One set of hands is definitely the bottleneck here...
But at least I've solved the desk space bottleneck problem.

In other news:
Another present; more earrings.

The thought process was:
Something red...
Blood is red, a blood drop is a pleasant shape...
Bit weird and boring for an earring as it is...
Could do red marble, I recently painted some marble, that'll break it up a bit...
Needs more...
Could add a jewel...
Have some water effects type stuff, could fill a hole with that...

and I ended up with these (at least one is in focus in each photo):




The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/23 17:37:23


Post by: Fifty


That inceptor pose looks like a lot of hard work! Good though.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/24 11:29:50


Post by: inmygravenimage


Love the basing. I hate flight stands. Also, nice festive bits as ever.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/24 17:53:39


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Fifty. I do the hard work so (whoever buys it) doesn't have to.

Thanks Graven'. As they are, clear flight stands just aren't as invisible as they are intended to be. They can be made to work, but so can a piece of wire...
These particular flight stands just look so fragile, and I've not seen anyone say they like them.
And if glued on (rather than a peg in a hole), they are non-removable (without damage).

Still, the train shed thing is done.
Here's one photo to keep you going until I can reveal all (I like the recipient to get the full view first with these things).
You can see that I did add back in the spots of colour that were there from when my Granddad made it.


Now to decide what colours to do the Noxious Blightbringer in... hmm...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/24 18:12:18


Post by: Theophony


Train shop is looking great

Really like the pose on the interceptor, breaks the standard “dropping into a clean environment” fight.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/25 15:50:32


Post by: Dr H


Thanks Theo'.
Yeah, to have them all in drop-pose would be a bit boring. If you've got a jet pack, you're going to take advantage of it to get about, even if you don't really need to.

And now some progress on something that's actually in the title of the thread.

Mr. Blightbringer.
Layers to the armour, just mixtures of 3 paints (well 4 if you count the added black for the first layer... and the black basecoat... and 5 for the primer...).


There you go, no more false advertising, for now...


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/25 17:52:52


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Some nice contrast on there. Well done!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/26 15:34:09


Post by: Dr H


Thanks CK.

Speaking of contrast... in contrast to the number of paints used on the armour, there was a lot more used for the robes/cloak...
The very lightest of highlights were with added white too.


Will get dirt and goo at the very end with everything else.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/31 17:16:37


Post by: Dr H


Here's the final photos for the train shed. and progress below for Mr Blightbringer...




and for scale

This is N-gauge, which is roughly 1:160 (~10mm)

and progress on the Noxious Blightbringer:
Metals and basecoat on fleshy bits.


Happy Halloween.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/31 17:34:28


Post by: Tyranid Horde


I didn't even realise your train shed was that small! Makes the detail even more unbelievable! I really like the soot around the archway of the shed, real nice touch.

Might seem like a silly question, but are those paints you're using on the blightbringer enamels? I have some Revell enamel paints I've yet to use and I don't know if I want to use them. Great job on him so far regardless!


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/31 17:55:17


Post by: Dr H


Thanks. Yeah, i realised after taking all the photos that I hadn't mentioned the scale of the shed. Hence the scale photo being separate.
Yeah, my Granddad had the soot marks on them, so I kept them as it makes sense.

Yes, 99% of all my painting you'll see is done with Humbrol Enamel paints.
I come from an Airfix* model kit background and have always used Enamels. I'm used to how they work. So continue to use them.

*other model manufacturers do exist...

There's quite a few "Enamel Vs Acrylic" threads here on DDakkka that I've participated in. Look them up for the full story, but in short, they're different and both have their pro's and con's. If you've only used one type, then the other will take some getting used to.


The (Mini) Details of Dr H: Now Building: Bloat drone tripod / Now Painting: none. @ 2018/10/31 18:10:57


Post by: Tyranid Horde


My first introduction to painting and modelling was with Airfix and my dad got me started with enamels before I started playing 40k. Being 10 at the time ultimately made me switch to acrylics because they were easier to use, but I do fancy giving enamels a go again to see which I prefer.