I think I'll swerve that one.. doesn't really grab my interest. forgot to buy dante last week. damn. I'm hoping they do a gotrek and felix one for cheap at some point.
Yeah, can't say I've been a fan of this batch. Why would Primaris rebel over a chapter they've never even met yet? It's already been established that there are some integration issues.
Finished Karl Jericho: Sinner's Bounty. I was never interested in gang wars in a hive city so I picked it solely based on the author which previous books I really liked (End Times, Fabius Bile). I really recommend this one. Light, fast paced, action packed, with dark humour and some very fun characters. Nice break from the usual 40k.
Two xenos focused books together..interesting... I wonder if this sits with the Pariah Psychic Awakening book which seems to return the focus to Xenos as a major threat to the Imperium.
I think one core difference is that the old mandate to have most/all books by BL focus on the Imperium is over. AoS has shown that a broader approach results in boosted sales.
Overread wrote: I think one core difference is that the old mandate to have most/all books by BL focus on the Imperium is over. AoS has shown that a broader approach results in boosted sales.
Hope you are right! AoS is looking very vibrant at the moment!
cant complain at both both £1.98. will be buying. I'm hoping that they put one of the gotrek and felix novels in the 99p deal soon. want to read one but dont want to shell out full price.
The Gotrek and Felix Omnibus editions are very good value and contain several books and short stories each. Whilst not down to the £1 level of cheap they are certainly very affordable.
Black Library is pushing some Tyranid based stories in the email this week - though do take note that BL is being as confusing as ever with collected editions*
First up is the digital editions of Leviathan and Exterminatus. Be interesting to know from any who have read them if they are worth getting in digital for their art and stories alone (since the rules are for older editions of the game) Both for £10 this week.
They also plug a few books in the email, of note there's Shield of Baal which I noticed crosses over a good few books with their The Great Devourer Omnibus edition.
Shield of Baal £7.99
Spoiler:
Tempestus by Braden Campbell
The Word of the Silent King by L J Goulding
Wraithflight by Guy Haley
Dread Night by Nick Kyme
Devourer by Joe Parrino
Deathstorm and Shadow of the Leviathan by Josh Reynolds
A Son's Burden by Andy Smillie
Unique Content
A Son's Burden £2.49
The Great Devourer: The Leviathan Omnibus ebook £11.99
Spoiler:
Valedor by Guy Haley
The Last Days of Ector by Guy Haley
Deathstorm by Josh Reynolds
Tempestus by Braden Campbell
Devourer by Joe Parrino
Wraithflight by Guy Haley
Shadow of the Leviathan by Josh Reynolds
The Word of the Silent King by L J Goulding
Dread Night by Nick Kyme
Unique content -
Valedor (only sold in eldar book sets not on its own)
The Last Days of Ector £3.99
So not even sure if there is a better purchase here as both options miss one or two bits from the other. The Great Devourer does at least let you get Valedor without having to buy one of the Eldar book sets, though otherwise the story differences between the two appear to be short rather than major stories.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: cant complain at both both £1.98. will be buying. I'm hoping that they put one of the gotrek and felix novels in the 99p deal soon. want to read one but dont want to shell out full price.
Where were you a year ago. I condensed my BL collection in physical form right down and sold everything off.
I have it all in eBooks now (the curse of swapping my study round with the kids room, lost a lot of storage room).
I barely have any left still to sell, but G&F, they were fast sellers.
BrookM wrote: Decided to get both Drachenfels and Honourbound, was in dire need of something new to listen to while working.
Only downside still is, Black Library still hasn't implemented Paypal as a payment option.
I got honourbound on audible and had to give it back after the first chapter. The narrator is awfully dull. Just couldn’t have listened for hours on end. This is probably only the second book on audible I’ve returned, most of their narrators are top class. I was looking forward to honourbound and was jumping it up the reading queue by going for the audio version. Definitely will still read it, it’s been getting great reviews.
BrookM wrote: Decided to get both Drachenfels and Honourbound, was in dire need of something new to listen to while working.
Only downside still is, Black Library still hasn't implemented Paypal as a payment option.
I got honourbound on audible and had to give it back after the first chapter. The narrator is awfully dull. Just couldn’t have listened for hours on end. This is probably only the second book on audible I’ve returned, most of their narrators are top class. I was looking forward to honourbound and was jumping it up the reading queue by going for the audio version. Definitely will still read it, it’s been getting great reviews.
I'm an Audible member and have some audio books but I definitely lean more towards full cast audio dramas rather than single narrator books. Having a book read to me doesn't hold my attention as much and I stopped listening to them whilst driving overnight.
Overread wrote: First up is the digital editions of Leviathan and Exterminatus. Be interesting to know from any who have read them if they are worth getting in digital for their art and stories alone (since the rules are for older editions of the game) Both for £10 this week.
The story of Shield of Baal is a bit derpy (diamond coated Tyranids... just... why?)
Some of the new artwork included in them is pretty good, but a lot of other pieces are terrible (Proportions? What are those?)
Exterminatus is basically all of the information on the Mephrit Dynasty Necrons we have, so it might be worth it for that.
It wouldn't have killed them to chuck in Deathstorm too while they were at it.
BrookM wrote: Decided to get both Drachenfels and Honourbound, was in dire need of something new to listen to while working.
Only downside still is, Black Library still hasn't implemented Paypal as a payment option.
I got honourbound on audible and had to give it back after the first chapter. The narrator is awfully dull. Just couldn’t have listened for hours on end. This is probably only the second book on audible I’ve returned, most of their narrators are top class. I was looking forward to honourbound and was jumping it up the reading queue by going for the audio version. Definitely will still read it, it’s been getting great reviews.
I'm an Audible member and have some audio books but I definitely lean more towards full cast audio dramas rather than single narrator books. Having a book read to me doesn't hold my attention as much and I stopped listening to them whilst driving overnight.
Audio books are for when I can’t sit and read. While walking and at work etc.
It all depends on the narrator for sure.
But you’ll never get a full cast audio of course, but the dramas are a good compromise there.
(Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson does have two readers though, and that’s pretty good).
I like audio as I’m working outside by myself everyday and I can listen to pass the time. I can go back over chapters when I loose my train of thought which happens fairly often, so mostly I will reread a book I’ve read physically as details don’t matter so much second time round.
I exchanged honourbound for a Ciaphas Cain book I read years ago. It’s great so far. The dramas are great but far too short and poor value for the cost. They also tend to be very action oriented, probably because of the length, and I’m not so much into action movies or dramas.
BrookM wrote: Decided to get both Drachenfels and Honourbound, was in dire need of something new to listen to while working.
Only downside still is, Black Library still hasn't implemented Paypal as a payment option.
I got honourbound on audible and had to give it back after the first chapter. The narrator is awfully dull. Just couldn’t have listened for hours on end. This is probably only the second book on audible I’ve returned, most of their narrators are top class. I was looking forward to honourbound and was jumping it up the reading queue by going for the audio version. Definitely will still read it, it’s been getting great reviews.
It takes some getting used to, but she had me in stitches when she did an American accent for one of the other regiments involved in the story, going from cowboy to old-timey gangster for their officers and soldiers.
But yes please, do give the novel a chance, it's a great read.
My usual place, the Book Depository lists it with 70 days to go before it's released. Also sadly €1,22 more expensive than what it normally should go for.
Following on from the discussion above about audio books vs dramas and so on, I have noticed a whole series of 40K audio drama collections available from Audible. Example link below:
Retailing at £30.62 full price, this allows you to pick up seven audio dramas including the three "...of Elysia" ones for 1 Credit (£7.99 UK price). These are available singly but are also 1 credit each.
Collections are also available for Space Marines, Dark Angels, Space Wolves and Xenos amongst others.
If one has never tried an Audible Free Trial, it will cost nowt and the dramas are yours even if you never continue with the sub.
My Ratmen book arrived! Also included was the BL Week free book which was nice to get considering how long ago it was and that the Ratmen book was a made to order product.
Interesting observation is that on the back of the Ratmen book it says "Printed in the UK".
@overread All BL paperbacks are printed in the U.K. now. They bought a printing business a while back. Only the hardbacks still coming from China. Hopefully they will bring those home soon too. Nice to see indeed.
Ahh I did not know this (or if I did I completely forgot). My only defence is I don't tend to buy any paperbacks from BL. Most of the story books I own are digital or hardback special editions.
Audible also has the Dembski-Bowden Night Lords trilogy, FWIW. Assuming Audible is the same as Amazon Audible, one could pick up the entire trilogy for the cost of two audiobooks...
I feel I have to butt in here and say that Dark Imperium and Plague War are off sale for a while for reasons that I can't disclose, but which are nevertheless cool. It will be back on sale after a break. There’s nothing sinister going on!
In other news - anyone heard anything about the next Inferno reprints? I've a feeling they should have appeared about "now" so just curious if they've got lost in the sea of Corona chaos
Reprints go up alongside the next Inferno! book, which would've been a month ago. They'll go up whenever GW resumes regular services and Inferno! #5 goes up for preorder.
tinfoil wrote: Audible also has the Dembski-Bowden Night Lords trilogy, FWIW. Assuming Audible is the same as Amazon Audible, one could pick up the entire trilogy for the cost of two audiobooks...
Yes, it's Amazon.
The 3 for 2 offer pages from the UK site didn't appear to include the Night Lords books at first glance. Which is a shame.
Shadow Walker wrote: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/06/aliens-among-us/
So we can expect a true greenskins novel? I did enjoy the short story by the author so I am definitely going to read it.
I hate how in that article they describe Necrons as '...amongst the more human-ish of mankind’s xenos enemies'.
That illustrates everything which is wrong with the way Black Library and GW represent the Necrons.
They shouldn't have any more resemblance to humans than their basic anatomical form.
The race which was at the height of it's power aeons before the current species crawled from the primordial ooze; which can bend space and time to their will; that walked amongst, and then cast down, multiple god-like races; that have a vastly differing perception of time and mortality to any living race; and have trancended death itself.
Shadow Walker wrote: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/06/aliens-among-us/
So we can expect a true greenskins novel? I did enjoy the short story by the author so I am definitely going to read it.
I hate how in that article they describe Necrons as '...amongst the more human-ish of mankind’s xenos enemies'.
That illustrates everything which is wrong with the way Black Library and GW represent the Necrons.
They shouldn't have any more resemblance to humans than their basic anatomical form.
The race which was at the height of it's power aeons before the current species crawled from the primordial ooze; which can bend space and time to their will; that walked amongst, and then cast down, multiple god-like races; that have a vastly differing perception of time and mortality to any living race; and have trancended death itself.
Nah. Basically humans.
Yeah, Necrons should be even more distant than Eldar. Their way of thinking,their goals etc. should be totally alien to us. The only ones less approachable should be Tyranids.
Excerpt from the new Lumineth book seems odd. I'm not familiar with the author, but the way the excerpt is written seems off.
It's like everything is overly described. "The enemy was like this, but we were like that. The enemy was like this, or that, or this other thing. Description. Description."
An actual quote from the book: "As one, the front line – Serath among them – took a unified step forward and brought all their greathammers crashing down, almost in unison, upon the front ranks of the servants of Slaanesh." We get it. They were in sync.
I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on the story when its officially released or if they enjoyed any of the author's other works.
In fact, there’s a whole novel on the way about the children of Teclis, fittingly titled Realm-lords and written by Dale Lucas in his Black Library novel debut.
It's the author's novel debut, as per the first introduction to the article.
Nothing out of the ordinary for most of the gw novels. You know it is a BL book when you can literary cross out half of the paragraph and the passage gets ten times better
GaroRobe wrote: Excerpt from the new Lumineth book seems odd. I'm not familiar with the author, but the way the excerpt is written seems off.
It's like everything is overly described. "The enemy was like this, but we were like that. The enemy was like this, or that, or this other thing. Description. Description."
An actual quote from the book: "As one, the front line – Serath among them – took a unified step forward and brought all their greathammers crashing down, almost in unison, upon the front ranks of the servants of Slaanesh." We get it. They were in sync.
I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on the story when its officially released or if they enjoyed any of the author's other works.
From that excerpt it seems to read the same as some of the recent PA shorts, and some of the HH books, imo like it needs editing. This doesnt make me cringe as much as some of the PA stories though, at least this is just repetitive rather than like they swallowed a thesaurus or use too many adverbs.
Hasn't been announced yet, but will get for sure, the second book, Into the Eye of Terror (IIRC that was the title) was one of my first hobby purchases ever.
That was my thinking. Instant purchase. I sold them to a friend who was starting Blood Angels. I don't regret it as it really energized their enthusiasm for the game and background but I do miss having them.
If you are a fan of his Black Library work, author Josh Reynolds confirmed on his Twitter a couple days ago that Fabius Bile:Manflayer will be his last work for Black Library.
https://twitter.com/JMReynolds/status/1260914214421630981
Shadow Walker wrote: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/06/aliens-among-us/
So we can expect a true greenskins novel? I did enjoy the short story by the author so I am definitely going to read it.
I hate how in that article they describe Necrons as '...amongst the more human-ish of mankind’s xenos enemies'.
That illustrates everything which is wrong with the way Black Library and GW represent the Necrons.
They shouldn't have any more resemblance to humans than their basic anatomical form.
The race which was at the height of it's power aeons before the current species crawled from the primordial ooze; which can bend space and time to their will; that walked amongst, and then cast down, multiple god-like races; that have a vastly differing perception of time and mortality to any living race; and have trancended death itself.
Nah. Basically humans.
Look, players want to be able to identify with their necrons, to share their motivations, to name them “Chuck” and “Howard”. And we want them to feel they can. That’s just good business.
Given some of his comments over the years, I'm significantly less sad. But best of luck to him, the world is absolutely crying out for more pseudo-Lovecraft mystery stories...
Thing is for those working on AoS pre-launch chances are it was somewhat exciting. The mistake GW made was marketing the wrong game and then not marketing AoS itself. It also sounds like they made some odd choices like dumping the rules due to management issues.
Honestly I rarely bother learning much about authors. I don't really mind what their world views are or what they do in their free time. I'm not there for that, I'm there for their books and stories. That's what I care about so I rather enjoy that than pre-load myself with baggage on an authors background when its not really part of the story itself.
Yodhrin wrote: Given some of his comments over the years, I'm significantly less sad.
Could you please explain? I am not familiar with any of his comments.
I believe he celebrated 'being part' of blowing up the Old World and gloated that it upset fans of WHFB.
I could be remembering the exact comments wrong but I definitely remember his Twitter profile remarked on it for a while at least.
He then followed that one comment by: and even then people were less pissed at me than at Cavan Scott writting a child's 40k book. Paraphrasing a bit, but the context was him commenting on how waaaay out of proportion the reactions of the fans in regards to the childrens books.
Honestly I rarely bother learning much about authors. I don't really mind what their world views are or what they do in their free time. I'm not there for that, I'm there for their books and stories. That's what I care about so I rather enjoy that than pre-load myself with baggage on an authors background when its not really part of the story itself.
I agree with that. Sometimes, the less you know, the better. I am not interested in BL authors' real world political rants, or what they had for dinner last night. Too much information is a thing, and it is easier than ever to fall into that trap these days.
Some of the BL compiled lore books have had really good prices. Amazon tends to jump the gun at times with some pre-orders and details can be a bit wrong - heck they've had pre-orders for the newest Game of Thrones book for years now and the release date has (thus far) always been wrong
That said I'm sure we'll find out in the fullness of time.
Blood Quest will probably have the behind the scenes stuff included again, IIRC my copy of the second arc had this at the end of the story.
Looking forward to it. I do agree that the art shift between the first and second stories is a bit jarring, though I can't really look at the first arc in positive / nostalgic light myself as I jumped in with the second book when I got into the hobby.
BrookM wrote: Blood Quest will probably have the behind the scenes stuff included again, IIRC my copy of the second arc had this at the end of the story.
Looking forward to it. I do agree that the art shift between the first and second stories is a bit jarring, though I can't really look at the first arc in positive / nostalgic light myself as I jumped in with the second book when I got into the hobby.
MacNeill is a fantastic artist. His America and so for Dredd and other 2000AD work is great.
I love the first Bloodquest book but he definitely upped the game. As I said in the earlier post, was he given more lead time and or/ money once GW knew the Monthly was going to be around for a while.
It has not aged well and the writing is quite bad. I'm aware that it was a one-man show that did wrote and drew it for Inferno! but, nope!
I'd almost like to see them do a re-release of Deff Skwadron in full colour, though we've already been spoiled by a nice high quality A4 format reprint of it a couple of years ago and the black and white art works really well for that one.
Wouldn't say no to Darkblade and Titanicus either in colour or original B&W, just so long as the quality is better! The pocket sized trades I had back in the day had horrible print quality, with blurry pages, lack of detail, unreadable dialogue.. just horrible.
Really looking forward to my reprint of Daemonifuge next month, which I also had as a trade back then, which also had a horrible quality.
Yodhrin wrote: Given some of his comments over the years, I'm significantly less sad.
Could you please explain? I am not familiar with any of his comments.
I believe he celebrated 'being part' of blowing up the Old World and gloated that it upset fans of WHFB.
I could be remembering the exact comments wrong but I definitely remember his Twitter profile remarked on it for a while at least.
He then followed that one comment by: and even then people were less pissed at me than at Cavan Scott writting a child's 40k book. Paraphrasing a bit, but the context was him commenting on how waaaay out of proportion the reactions of the fans in regards to the childrens books.
Or in other words, standard issue modern simpering creative type conflating all criticism of a thing with the most extreme examples to delegitimise all of it, posting comments explicitly designed to rile people up, and then running to twitter to tattle on people when they get riled up. If a writer can't be bothered to/intentionally doesn't choose their words in a way that makes their target clear, I've got no time for "but I was only talking about the minority of meanie-weenies, no bully I!" nonsense.
If some random scumbag on twitter or the chans trolls people, people clutch their pearls harder than Bruce Wayne in that alleyway, but it's suddenly fine or even good actually when a miniceleb does it, especially if it lets a certain kind of "fan" feel smug and superior by reinforcing how cool they are for affecting not to care about their hobbies.
Overread wrote: Honestly I rarely bother learning much about authors. I don't really mind what their world views are or what they do in their free time. I'm not there for that, I'm there for their books and stories. That's what I care about so I rather enjoy that than pre-load myself with baggage on an authors background when its not really part of the story itself.
Ordinarily this is my policy as well, unfortunately if you're involved in the online fandom for something some creatives make it difficult to avoid. I used to follow authors' twitters for news on upcoming releases, but that's no longer viable unless you want to see how the whole sausage is made, politics and contempt for fans and all the other gristle too.
Yes, the first book the series. Not the best of series, but YMMV. Personally I much prefer the Agent of the Throne audio dramas, they're so much better. I feel we're due another part sooner or later, they used to be released around this time of the year.
totalfailure wrote: Callis & Toll - The Silver Shard was last weeks .99 center.
That is one brilliant book. I think the Callis and Toll books have been the best AoS books I’ve read yet. I haven’t read a huge amount but I throughly enjoyed these
I felt the first story was the stronger of the two but enjoyed both.
As parts of the AOS setting get fleshed out , IMO, the stories are getting better. I think at times the seemingly endless nature of the setting has worked against it , narratively speaking.
The Endless nature has worked against it on several fronts
1) Logistically its harder for authors to create and use important places because barring one or two major cities; everywhere is major and so huge you can create whole kingdoms that don't matter if they vanish or are never mentioned again.
2) Timescale wise its also hard to work things out. Barring a few major events (Stormcast being unleashed, the start of the age of chaos, the necroquake); its very hard to pinpoint when in the story things happen. This is rather annoying because its hard to relate stories to each other. Is this story happening decades after major events or before.
In most settings you can orientate yourself; AoS had almost an anti-orientation approach at launch. I think that made it harder for reader and authors to settle iwth the setting. I think as time has gone on things have improved and at some stage I think GW will introduce some actual dates and reference point and even more fleshed out maps.
The new edition of Warhammer 40,000 is on the way – and Black Library is in on the action, bringing you a new series of novels that are more closely tied into the ongoing story of the 41st Millennium than ever before. Author and series architect Guy Haley joins us today to tell us about the Dawn of Fire.
Guy: Dawn of Fire is the beginning of an awesome new series of novels set in the Indomitus Crusade, detailing the returned Primarch Roboute Guilliman’s efforts to save the Imperium.
With this new story, we wanted to recreate some of the magic of the Horus Heresy in the Warhammer 40,000 present, so you can expect the same level of deep diving into the lore, extensive cast of characters, amazing revelations and nail-biting action. Naturally, the books tie heavily into the lore of the game, but they’re embedded into completely new, heroic stories that will broaden your understanding of this tumultuous time.
Like the Horus Heresy, the series is being written by a group of highly talented authors, and the ongoing plot was cooked up in hot rooms where the air is thick with creativity. Many of these writers will be familiar to you. Some are Horus Heresy veterans – for them, the Long War never ends!
The big difference here is that the Horus Heresy was telling a tale pretty much everybody knew. With Dawn of Fire, the first part of what will be the immense, sprawling epic of the Indomitus Crusade, we’ve created a new story. That means you don’t know what’s going to happen. For me, that’s amazingly exciting.
I’ve been working with managing editor Nick Kyme to guide the story, and have written the first book, Avenging Son, which tells how Guilliman launches his crusade and of its first major victory at Machorta Sound.
This is the first time we’ve created a series like this that is set in the current Warhammer 40,000 timeline, and by the Emperor, is it ambitious in scope. If you’ve not tried one of our epic sagas before, this is a great place to begin, and if you can’t wait, I recommend Chris Wraight’s Watchers of the Throne and Vaults of Terra books, which follow events on and around the Throneworld immediately before and after the Crusade’s departure.
..well....
.. be intrigued to see how this works out, I do hope this doesn't take over too much from the release of stories that are, perhaps, less central or connected to the apparent new narrative arc.
I am glad to see closer integration between the design studio and the BL "schools of thought". TBF that's generally been getting better for a while , especially -- alas -- since the demise of the Old World setting -- there was some great books/stories done by some authors in that setting that , IIRC, were either just ignored or hastily retconned pretty sharpish.
At the same time BL has steadily been pumping out Old World combined novels which I hope they continue with. At their current rate they'll be able to clean up a huge chunk of the old world lore and stories into combined editions with a few stand alone stories and short stories - instead of the massive tide of both which make browsing the BL Old World range a bit difficult
Dawn of Fire details. And I'm completely confused.
When Dark Imperium (the novel) came out alongside Dark Imperium (the boxed set), it was set at the end of the Indominitus Crusade. The had the triumph and everything, and Guilliman dispersed the warriors to reinforce or found new chapters and on to other battlegrounds (like the DG invasion of Ultramar).
The Devastation of Baal wrapped up, and Guilliman shows up at the end to give reinforcements on the other side of the great rift, and set Dante in charge of defending that side of the Imperium. Fine.
Then... PA happened (which I've admittedly read none of), but somehow we were back in the crusade, which we've already seen the end of.
Now Dawn of Fire is happening and its the next big thing... except its also in the past, according to the article, its also set during the Indomitus Crusade. Which we already saw the end of, all the way back in Dark Imperium.
They make a point to say that unlike the HH novels, we don't know what will happen in this series. Which is true... but... we know the Crusade ends with Roboute as the only active loyalist primarch, and by and large no further successful chaos incursions out of the great rift (the DG invasion of ultramar happens after the crusade is over).
So I'm at a loss as to what this series is going to cover, beyond ultramarines, greyshields (most of the primaris forces aren't in chapters yet), and a relatively small selection of imperial factions that happen to be on the south side of the rift.
It seems like they've written themselves into a brand new corner where nothing in particular can happen, by presenting the crusade as the past at the onset, yet having all the rest of the 8th (and now 9th) edition materials being set during it.
All true, but there a lot we don’t know in the time period still, and I guess it could span past that point as it goes too..
As to Primarch returns or other big things. They wouldn’t be revealed during a book series anyway, they’d be in the next PA style campaign, set after where we got to perhaps.
As it would be linked to a model and rules, so it doesn’t surprise me not to get anything like that in this series.
I’ll look at the first, see what I think of it..
Automatically Appended Next Post: And on the audio Callis & Toll, Yeah I did grab that one good.
As to Primarch returns or other big things. They wouldn’t be revealed during a book series anyway, they’d be in the next PA style campaign, set after where we got to perhaps.
The way I read it is that's certainly how they used to do it, but they're looking at a different way of handling the "present day" fluff going forwards. There do seem to be a fair number of people still reading the books that don't play any more, and certainly there was confusion around the Dark Imperium novel (people asking "what books are before or after this?" and being directed to codex stuff).
So I would expect any big events like returning Primarchs to be covered by novels going forward, however that's not to say they'd reveal them that way - just that they would have novels covering those events eventually.
A quick heads up there’s a 2 for 1 sale on Audible with a handful of 40k novels in there. I got myself The Hollow Mountain, Caves of Ice, Cadian Honour and Brothers of the Snake. I am Slaughter is also on there.
It doesn't look like there is one today. They did say it was only a limited time. It's a shame if it's finished, I loved getting a new audio book each week for so cheap.
phillv85 wrote: It doesn't look like there is one today. They did say it was only a limited time. It's a shame if it's finished, I loved getting a new audio book each week for so cheap.
Even the Amazon deals appear a little damp this month.
A quick search indicates First and Only, Devastation of Baal are among them along with the first Cain novel.
False Gods is considered a deal because it is at £6.99 rather than £7.99.
The Phazer wrote: A few of the previous Amazon deals are also still up, but yes, not much new.
That said, having looked at my Kindle Wishlist today, most books on there seem to have dropped a couple of pounds in price even if they're not at the £1.99 level.
Examples:
Mark Of Faith, £7.99 down from £9.99.
Uriel Ventris Vol 1. £10.99 down from £13.99
Lord Of The Dark Millenium £7.99.
The First Wall, £7.99
The Beast Arises Omnibus Vol1, £10.99 from £14.99
Relative bargains compared to RRP if you need top up lockdown/ holiday reading.
While the world has been locked down, the writing-adepts and editor-magi of Black Library have been working hard to ensure that there’s a constant supply of fantastic books to read – including putting the finishing touches to the first few Warhammer Crime books.
Coming your way later this year, Warhammer Crime is a new take on the 41st Millennium. Set in the immense city of Varangantua, these stories will focus on the seedy underbelly of the Imperium, looking at the gang lords who profit from human misery, the hard-bitten investigators who doggedly chase down clues, and many more on both sides of the law. Refresh yourself on the concept with Black Library’s atmospheric series premise.
Back in March, we took a look at a pair of Warhammer Crime titles. Chris Wraight’s novel Bloodlines focuses on an enforcer seeking the missing scion of a wealthy family, while the audio drama Dredge Runners by Alec Worley sees an ogryn and a ratling caught between enforcers of the law and enforcers of a crime syndicate.
These will be closely followed by another novel, by Black Library veteran Guy Haley, and a collection of short stories that will delve deeply into Varangantua. Here are the details.
Flesh and Steel
by Guy Haley
Born into riches, Probator Symeon Noctis attempts to atone for his past sins by championing the powerless of Nearsteel district. But the sprawling city of Varangantua is uncaring of its masses, and when a bisected corpse is discovered in the neutral zone between Nearsteel and the Adeptus Mechanicus enclave of Steelmound, Noctis finds himself cast into his most dangerous case yet.
Partnering with the tech-priest Rho-1 Lux of the Collegiate Extremis, Noctis is drawn into a murky world of tech-heresy, illegal servitors and exploitation that could end his career, or his life.
No Good Men
A Warhammer Crime anthology
In the grim darkness of the far-future, there is a vast city… An urban sprawl of murder and corruption. A den of vice and illicit deeds where the law is failing, and justice is fleeting.
Glutted merchant-kings turn the wheels of industry, feeding the engine of war on distant worlds while the lowly dream only of survival. As the gilded prosper, hidden behind their fortress walls, the masses must find a place within the underbelly. But regardless of station, whether criminal or law-keeper, one fact remains true – this city is dirty, and no one escapes it without a little sin. For in Varangantua, there are no good men.
This Warhammer Crime collection features stories by Chris Wraight, Darius Hinks, Gareth Hanrahan, Graham McNeill, Guy Haley, Marc Collins and Nick Kyme.
... .. I think I prefer the artwork for the first 2 releases, the new 2 don't do that much for me -- TBF I'm still not quite sold on the new 40k logo, but sure one will struggle on.
Wait and see I suppose, I've found the Horror imprint a massive disappointment so far (aside from the Genevieve Undead reprints and the audio dramas), having read almost everything they've put out under that label.
Hopefully this'll be better, it certainly has one of my personal favourites, Chris Wraight, kicking things off. Alex Worley doing another audio drama is also good stuff.
I really like stories with arbites, enforcers, inquisitors, agents, gangers and all that, so I'll definitely be checking these out.
The Horror series works so much better as audio books with Cyro Chamber of Iron Cthulhu Apocalypse ambient music playing in the background. They don't quite get there in text form. They just need a little ambient push.
Heralds of the siege is up for preorder on the GW site, the BL one is currently digital only still
I'm assuming that'll change soon -- gather the GW stores -- in the UK -- should be reopening on Monday the 15th -- bound to be a few exceptions one assumes.
totalfailure wrote: News today was that Josh Reynolds’ final work for Black Library, Fabius Bile: Manflayer will go on preorder Saturday 6/13 for a 6/20 release.
I cannot wait, love the series. Best CSM series IMO.
Warhammer Crime could be an interesting series. It has potential, for sure. Hopefully there'll be at least one novel following a hard boiled Arbite detective.
Barzam wrote: Warhammer Crime could be an interesting series. It has potential, for sure. Hopefully there'll be at least one novel following a hard boiled Arbite detective.
It'd be funny if it was literal and it detailed all the mismanagement and embezzling of funds that occurred under the Kirby era instead, like a declassified insider take of what was going on behind the scenes.
I hope the Warhammer Crime books get to the point where the detectives take a break to share their recipes for Grox Monsieur sandwiches or upside-down ploin recaff cake. I want some where the gyrinx solves the crime.
A minor deal I was sorry to see disappear was that Apple Books had been had been taking the Heresy sequentially numbered books and putting them into bundles of five. They would then sell the bundle at a slight discount; five $15 books would sell in this volume for $60, so essentially you were getting one book free. However, they stopped with volume 7 that ended with book 35, Eye of Terra.
It's pretty dami I guess that old books like Drachenfels remain the better parts of Warammer Horror. Fulgrim was a better inadvertent horror story than most of the new ones. And the Black Plague trilogy.
Maybe I'm too jaded but in every horror novel I read I saw the "twist" or reveal very early on.
I don'r see crime being great other than them dredging up the older BL titles to fit into the series, it's like by trying to write for a theme the writer's screw it up !
I hope it is decent as the glimpses of enforcers, arbiters etc we have seen in other novels helps flesh out the overall setting. The enormities of the Imperium once you realise most planets are basically Earth style planets with all the levels of governance etc is far greater , as opposed to thinking every world is a poverty ridden hell hole.
YMMV as always, but the Genevieve Undead reprints and the 40k horror audio dramas were for me the best thing to come out of the horror imprint. Agreed that with a lot of the stories they just weren't scary or had a twist you could see coming a mile away, especially in a setting where the average novel already deals with cosmic horror or some other form of this on a daily basis. I think out of all the books they've done I found the Oubliette most okay, it was very predictable if you're familiar with the rest of the work by the author, but at least it wasn't your usual AND THEN JOHN WAS A EATEN BY A DAEMON BECAUSE OF GREED AND HUBRIS twist.
Special mention for cringe goes to Sepulturum, which I thought would be a neat novel about zombies, but instead felt really immature due to the uncensored f-bombs that they were dropping left and right. I've got nothing against swearing, but this felt really out of place and makes one wonder how this got past the editors.
Also makes me wonder if the audio version of said book is as sweary.
I’m not sure I can still get my mind into this far fetched parody world where maintaining order comes before justice and law enforcement kill their poorer citizens with impunity.
This novel will be available in hardback, eBook and MP3 audiobook formats, as well as in not one, but two fancy special editions. The special editions will contain an additional short story and will be themed around the Ultramarines and Necrons, complete with coloured covers and page edges to match your chosen faction. Look out for the novel at the same time as the boxed set.
Its all personal taste obviously, but I really don't like them - they look like kids books to me.
(which I know is a stupid thing to complain about in a hobby about little plastic soldiers, but still... give me a grimdark gilt-embossed tome over that style any day)
Nicky J wrote: Its all personal taste obviously, but I really don't like them - they look like kids books to me.
(which I know is a stupid thing to complain about in a hobby about little plastic soldiers, but still... give me a grimdark gilt-embossed tome over that style any day)
I’m with you here. I buy pretty much all the limited editions because I love the in universe library look of them. These look very different. Not my thing at all.
I'm not much of a Limited Edition buyer; the last BL one I bought was Fabius Bile: Primogenitor with the fake flayed skin cover three years ago. These and the 'Masterworks' collection don't look to change that. The art style may appeal to some, but to me, it looks like a kitschy 50s scifi pulp novel...or an outdated school textbook.
If you look at folio society sci fi books these are quite obviously in their style. I dislike it when BL try to copy another company. Warhammer has its own unique feel and they should stick to it. Folio are successful in what they do but it’s totally different books to a different market
Ephrael Stern is returning in both the classic graphic novel and a brand-new novel – available first in a limited mega edition packed with goodies! Watch out for more news coming soon.
reds8n wrote: presumably coming alongside the boxset :
2 different special editions
This novel will be available in hardback, eBook and MP3 audiobook formats, as well as in not one, but two fancy special editions. The special editions will contain an additional short story and will be themed around the Ultramarines and Necrons, complete with coloured covers and page edges to match your chosen faction. Look out for the novel at the same time as the boxed set.
At the first glance I thought the Marine (Ultramarine cover) is flipping the bird.
This mega limited edition contains a hardback copy of The Heretic Saint, a copy of the Daemonifuge graphic novel with alternate cover, a fleur-de-lis wax seal stamp and wax, six dice in a dice bag, an Ephrael Stern enamel pin, cloth bookmark and coin, and three art prints. This is strictly limited edition, so make sure that you get up early on Saturday to get your hands on one.
Contents of the special edition a hardback copy of The Heretic Saint, a copy of the Daemonifuge graphic novel with alternate cover, a fleur-de-lis wax seal stamp and wax, six dice in a dice bag, an Ephrael Stern enamel pin, cloth bookmark and coin, and three art prints.This is one of those "limited limited editions" so chances are it will sell out FAST on Saturday at 10am your region unlock time as normal.
Spoiler:
Thankfully the regular colourised hardback is also going on sale at the same time, so for those who miss or don't want the big bling edition and for those who might not yet be fans and who want to get into the comic series its right there for a more affordable price. There's also the twin models coming out for it as well.
This past weekend also saw Titandeath go up for preorder, which only leaves The Buried Dagger as the sole remaining HH book to be released in the MMPB, I believe that release is sooner rather than later as well.
Amazon tells me there is a new Necron short story collection, but only for Kindle. Are the stories available in a printed book? Also, how are the Necrons handled? Any space battles?
It's on the BL website with a list of the short stories within it.
The Lords of Borsis
The Word of the Silent King by L J Goulding
But Dust in the Wind by Jonathan Green
Cold Steel by David Guymer
Veil of Darkness by Nick Kyme
Flayed by Cavan Scott
Mission: Annihilate by Gav Thorpe
In true BL standards some of those short stories do appear in other collections, though this one is focused on Necrons alone whilst the others are either following campaign linked stories or other races as well.
I've not read them I just searched for them on the BL site and found the book. You can search each of the short story titles and it will mostly show the books that they are collected in and also if they are sold on their own.
The Lords of Borsis - POOR - Necrons are just crazy humans in metal bodies. What little characterisation of Hequiroth and Turakhin there is wasn't carried forward in The World Engine.
The Word of the Silent King - TERRIBLE - A totally wasted first view of the Silent King. Everyone is a moron. Szarakh and Sanguinius were bros, yo!
But Dust in the Wind - TERRIBLE - Fall of Damnos but with Yellow Marines. How this blatant rip off got approved is beyond me.
Cold Steel - MEH - Probably the best of the bunch. Nothing consequential happens though.
Veil of Darkness - TERRIBLE - It was all a dream! No really; that's the twist. Calgar dies, but it wasn't real, so who cares?
Flayed - MEH - Some kids get menaced by a flayed one. Gets a bit dark at the end.
Mission: Annihilate - MEH - Only 1000 words. Some Deathwatch kill some Necrons. Notable only for the appearance of a 'plasma reaper' weapon which was never mentioned again.
Basically this mean UK prices for ebooks have gone down a little because now there's no more VAT to pay on them - same as for print books.
I wonder if that's the reason for the across the board price drops on the Amazon UK website from the 1 June.
Nice of the UK government to drop a nice little earner just as eBook sales have gone through the roof and government spending has increased like a drunken sailor during Kieler Woche!
Lord Damocles wrote: The Lords of Borsis - POOR - Necrons are just crazy humans in metal bodies. What little characterisation of Hequiroth and Turakhin there is wasn't carried forward in The World Engine.
The Word of the Silent King - TERRIBLE - A totally wasted first view of the Silent King. Everyone is a moron. Szarakh and Sanguinius were bros, yo!
But Dust in the Wind - TERRIBLE - Fall of Damnos but with Yellow Marines. How this blatant rip off got approved is beyond me.
Cold Steel - MEH - Probably the best of the bunch. Nothing consequential happens though.
Veil of Darkness - TERRIBLE - It was all a dream! No really; that's the twist. Calgar dies, but it wasn't real, so who cares?
Flayed - MEH - Some kids get menaced by a flayed one. Gets a bit dark at the end.
Mission: Annihilate - MEH - Only 1000 words. Some Deathwatch kill some Necrons. Notable only for the appearance of a 'plasma reaper' weapon which was never mentioned again.
Thanks for the reviews! That's exactly the kind of information I was after.
Has there been any decent Necron-heavy book since Dead Men Walking?
Thanks for the reviews! That's exactly the kind of information I was after.
Has there been any decent Necron-heavy book since Dead Men Walking?
From Black Library? Not really.
Devourer was ok, although there are some serious time travel implications which arrise from it.
The best Necron material in the last ten years or so are still Imperial Armour 12: Fall of Orpheus and Deathwatch: The Outer Reach.
Knockagh wrote: Severed by Nate Crowley, the best Necron book by miles. Go read
Eh, it was ok.
Zahndrekh doesn't seem to know that Doomsday Arks can fly, which makes me question how much of a tactical genius he really is.
Also, the Necron characters are basically just humans, which I hate.
He still holds banquets on his command ship - he'll even invite the enemy general along to dine with him in their honour after their defeat.
In the end most alien races have to have some human qualities for us to identify with - even Tyranids have human/mammalian elements that we latch onto (such as the concept of hunger).
I have to say I really enjoyed Severed, to me its the ideal way to display the Necrons and their concept of being alive and yet dead at the same time within the race.
Automatically Appended Next Post: More limited edition details for the Sisters of Battle book set
And its all up! The special edition for Ephrael Stern is £90, too rich for my blood though I say that as someone who hasn't read the comic so I'm not "a fan". * edit - its already sold out in the UK store!
The new anniversary edition with colour is £25 which is about normal for that kind of book in hardback from GW.
Congrats! They vanished super fast and at only 1.5K in stock world over I'm not surprised. Must admit of all the content the seal and wax is the most unique of the "bling" that you get bundled and is about the only bit of it I'd have "wanted" (well aside from dice cause dice are always good)
What the actual. Even the normal edition is sold out. What is the point of having a special and a regular if you make the regular one limited as well? Seriously GW feth sake.
Sadly anything hardback is often of limited supply. Best you can hope is that GW orders a reprint or that there's a paperback coming later. Best you can do is to email GW and air your interest in purchasing the book and your hope that they'll order more.
It's very annoying, a few years back they did some awesome art books for Eldar, which I'd love to get hold of. I have seen them reprint a fair bit recently - grabbed a wonderulf hardback of Libre Chaotica - but even those reprints are limited supply.
Aeneades wrote: You can still order the regular hardback on Amazon for £25. I ordered mine when it first appeared a couple of months ago.
Hmm. Well I put in the order, but I don't actually expect it'll be fulfilled, they'll do the same as most third parties do with BL products - take all the preorders they can, then try to persuade all the people left without when GW's paltry allocation arrives to take store credit instead of a proper refund. Hopefully I'm wrong, we'll see come the 9th.
Overread wrote: Sadly anything hardback is often of limited supply. Best you can hope is that GW orders a reprint or that there's a paperback coming later. Best you can do is to email GW and air your interest in purchasing the book and your hope that they'll order more.
It's very annoying, a few years back they did some awesome art books for Eldar, which I'd love to get hold of. I have seen them reprint a fair bit recently - grabbed a wonderulf hardback of Libre Chaotica - but even those reprints are limited supply.
Liber Chaotica's an almost as bad example. I only managed to get one in the end because one of the staff in the local GW store agreed to give up the last copy they had that he had put aside for himself.
The whole thing is just farce considering how easily they could fix the problem with Print On Demand.
The unfortunate thing for collectors is that limited editions must be by their nature..... limited. It’s incredibly annoying but if you are producing limited editions it’s to create hype around your product and an active eBay market for limited editions works in the companies favour in the long run. It’s the series’s that get me, only managing to get some of them must be the most infuriating thing for a collector. These one offs are kind of pot luck and that’s not unreasonable I suppose but a series is something you invest in and not being able to complete is nuclear brain exploding annoying.
I was surprised this one sold so quick, but thinking about it anything sister related has been crazy popular since they had their launch.
Thing is many of them - like libre chaotica - aren't really "limited editions." They are just limited print runs. GW also isn't really tapped into the whole collectors market themselves, so any scalping or after-sale value of the product is purely feeding the 3rd party pockets not GW (if anything if people are spending more on middle-men then that means less hobby money to spend on GW direct).
IF GW ran their own secondhand and trading website then I could see interest for them in keeping many things limited. Instead their limits are more about them protecting their investment and profit ratios; so that they don't end up sitting on unsold stock.
It's also likely that print-on-demand might cost more and eat into profits or be more complex to setup.
We know they do it - the Inferno Reprints were all done on print-on-demand. Granted they only last a week or two when put up (and we are still waiting for the next run); but at least even thogh its a short window (which is still annoying); there's no issue with stock
As much as it biles ma pish to say given the issue is entirely GW's fault in the first place - I'd rather pay ~5-10 quid more than the first-run price for a POD version so GW can assuage their shareholder's quaking terror at the prospect of not having All The Money, than I would be forced to choose between not having the books at all or paying some filthy worthless scalperscum 10+ times the first-run price on ebay.
I'd much rather GW just get over their absolutely irrational fear of having any stock on hand whatsoever after the very day of preorders, but that's not the world we live in, so we choose the lesser evil.
I'd love to see more of their lore and art books on sale as well. Some are utterly outstanding and well worth a good price on them -just not the insane prices that ebay gets them for when there's only a tiny number in circulation at any one time (if any at all).
It is a shame that it's already sold out, their Facebook page is mostly people mentioning it being sold out so swiftly and that it needs to be revised. All we can do now is annoyingly wait for the actual novel release to happen six to eight months from now.
Makes one worry for when they get around to the second book of the Bequin trilogy, you'd hope they'd tackle it like they've tackled the Magos a few years ago (releasing the limited edition alongside the regular paperback, holy gak!), but chances of them doing that again..
In better news..
Happy this one isn't sold out yet, really loved his horror audio dramas, so looking forward to having this one on my shelf in due time with his other stuff.
I also saw somewhere, can't find it now, that the upcoming Blood Quest reprint will be done in three parts, so not a complete trilogy in one trade / hardback.
Overread wrote: Thing is many of them - like libre chaotica - aren't really "limited editions." They are just limited print runs. GW also isn't really tapped into the whole collectors market themselves, so any scalping or after-sale value of the product is purely feeding the 3rd party pockets not GW (if anything if people are spending more on middle-men then that means less hobby money to spend on GW direct).
IF GW ran their own secondhand and trading website then I could see interest for them in keeping many things limited. Instead their limits are more about them protecting their investment and profit ratios; so that they don't end up sitting on unsold stock.
It's also likely that print-on-demand might cost more and eat into profits or be more complex to setup.
We know they do it - the Inferno Reprints were all done on print-on-demand. Granted they only last a week or two when put up (and we are still waiting for the next run); but at least even thogh its a short window (which is still annoying); there's no issue with stock
GW don’t need to run the sales of scalped copies. The whole thing is about product hype not about an extra 40 or 50 quid for a couple of hundred books. The books selling out in minutes, the crazy prices on eBay and the fan fury over not getting one is exactly what GW want out of these limited editions. It’s not about you getting what you want it’s about making us all addicts.
The non limited edition print run issues are probably more down to a dreaded fear of remaining stock and this is something GW need to get better at. It’s bound to be costing them money. Although maybe people buy ebooks if they can’t get a hardback, and that’s probably the cheapest of all for GW
Overread wrote: Thing is many of them - like libre chaotica - aren't really "limited editions." They are just limited print runs. GW also isn't really tapped into the whole collectors market themselves, so any scalping or after-sale value of the product is purely feeding the 3rd party pockets not GW (if anything if people are spending more on middle-men then that means less hobby money to spend on GW direct).
IF GW ran their own secondhand and trading website then I could see interest for them in keeping many things limited. Instead their limits are more about them protecting their investment and profit ratios; so that they don't end up sitting on unsold stock.
It's also likely that print-on-demand might cost more and eat into profits or be more complex to setup.
We know they do it - the Inferno Reprints were all done on print-on-demand. Granted they only last a week or two when put up (and we are still waiting for the next run); but at least even thogh its a short window (which is still annoying); there's no issue with stock
GW don’t need to run the sales of scalped copies. The whole thing is about product hype not about an extra 40 or 50 quid for a couple of hundred books. The books selling out in minutes, the crazy prices on eBay and the fan fury over not getting one is exactly what GW want out of these limited editions. It’s not about you getting what you want it’s about making us all addicts.
Well then it backfired, because as a direct result of this shoddy nonsense I now just pirate most of their books that I'm actually bothered about, and I know I'm not alone in that(I do not advocate anyone else engage in piracy, it is bad and wrong and naughty etc etc blah). I used to spend a solid couple of hundred a year on BL stuff between Heresy, WHF, Abnett books, art/coffee table/source books and the odd 40K novel, these days the only money they get out of me are stuff like the hardback Daemonifuge or Liber Chaotica - stuff I want on my actual shelf - so by fannying about with availability for those they just get nothing at all.
Nobody is ever going to convince me it's somehow good business to leave huge chunks of money on the table. If they absolutely must turn preorder/release day into a fething pantomime for the sake of "hype" fine, whatever, but there's absolutely nothing about that which requires them to then just never bother printing any more.
Also, it wasn't stupid shenanigans and hyper-limited releases that got GW their first NY Times bestseller.
I agree, there's certainly a tipping point between when limited editions help drive launch sales and when it simply annoys the customers. Especially when many of these are simple print run books. The contents are special, but the actual manufacture is bog standard mass market produce.
The only reason to limit is so that GW isn't left holding stock in the long term. Another consideration is that when there is clearly way more demand than supply, GW could do way more to support a second wave of sales or even use more Print on Demand for longer periods (say have a product up for 6 months with 3 print-on-demand runs during that time period).
There are options GW can use to try and ensure that they profit and fans get what they want.
We had an author on here once who described BL as having the tiger by the tail: the limited editions made a lot of money at first, so they had more of them. Then the limited editions made less and less, so they had to have more and more limited editions to make the same money, and eventually it took over their release schedule because they were never able to back down.
I also used to spend hundreds on BL books. I bought literally everything they put out for years. Everything but the special limited releases. Now I buy only one or two BL books a year.
Yodhrin wrote: As much as it biles ma pish to say given the issue is entirely GW's fault in the first place - I'd rather pay ~5-10 quid more than the first-run price for a POD version so GW can assuage their shareholder's quaking terror at the prospect of not having All The Money, than I would be forced to choose between not having the books at all or paying some filthy worthless scalperscum 10+ times the first-run price on ebay.
I'd much rather GW just get over their absolutely irrational fear of having any stock on hand whatsoever after the very day of preorders, but that's not the world we live in, so we choose the lesser evil.
For all their 'advances in PR' I'm still convinced GW's sales department has a healthy share of idiots.
My guess is every time this is brought up, the same person says that by making it so limited, they're ensuring the absolute maximum amount of people are viewing their website at 10am and may see something else thy like whilst browsing, even if they don't get a limited edition, or something equally dumb.
If your the type that thinks so little of the authors that you would download pirate copies then I doubt your the customer base they want anyway.
If I had my way I would make the limited editions print to order and they would take bookings in advance for them. I have written to BL asking for this. Particularly for a series like the seige. We should have been allowed to sign up in advance for the books in limited format, paying a deposit. But they said no, so I’m assuming they have a reason for that. It’s very frustrating and hopefully it will change but switching to pirated copies is certainly not a good trend if you want to still have authors out there.
Ha, typical, the one time GW makes nice and (predominantly) practical Adepta Sororitas dice, they decide to sell them as part of a limited edition book that sells out within moments. Didn't put them in the box set, didn't sell them separately, no, they sell them with a book.
And the non-limited edition of the book was also actually quite limited in quantity, so much so that it sold out the same day? How.. why... but really how...?? Either the Sisters continue to be incredibly more popular than GW expects, or they really prefer to sell out in minutes than to sell several times the number at the risk of not quite fully selling out during pre-orders. Didn't even realize the book would go up for pre-order yesterday (hadn't seen anything about it since the first preview), so it was obviously gone by the time I found out.
INFERNO's Back!
It's another bundle of 10 issues so likely will cost the same as last time - £50 for the UK. They'll be up for print on demand order for only 2 weeks.
I've bought the earlier ones and they are well worth picking up - reprint quality is great and the overall price of around £5 per issue is very fair for the content you get.
Bit annoyed that its another expensive run (in an already expensive month with the new edition dropping and all). That said at least big blocks get more out of the way
About time, odd that Inferno! #5 isn't mentioned or up for preorder as well.
Saturnine also up for preorder, after which they'll be taking a break from the Siege series, which was IIRC mentioned somewhere else or in an interview or the like.
More intrusive and less war, so I guess Inquisition is good.
I guess maybe something as different to most 40k as possible (hard to do when it’s the setting.. but if you know what I mean).
Like how Eisenhorn is quite a step aside from SM Conquests for example.
I’ve got three credits free, so I suppose I could just get 1 from all series maybe..
There's some repeating here from their earlier bundle, however there's a good general showing of 40K, AoS and then a nice chunk of the first Horus Hersey books (though considering there's 50 books in total for the HH I wouldn't be surprised to see a Humble Bundle every so often wit ha good 20-30 chunk)
Yeah I'm thinking I'll jump for the second. It's rare as normally I'm all in or not at all with bundles, but the HH is 50 books long - I can't commit to that huge of a reading project when I've others to catch up on any way (plus its all freaking marines - not a Tyranid in sight :()
I think I’ve got all but four or five of everything up to tier 2, and everything in tier 3.
And I have many, many ebooks to be getting on to from buys, or prior bundles etc.
Some good books in second tier though, really enjoyable ones
Overread wrote: Yeah I'm thinking I'll jump for the second. It's rare as normally I'm all in or not at all with bundles, but the HH is 50 books long - I can't commit to that huge of a reading project when I've others to catch up on any way (plus its all freaking marines - not a Tyranid in sight :()
I've acquired most of the early HH books via Humble Bundle deals in the past so was able to pass my paperbacks on to others. The more recent books have all been digital just for the space saver convenience more than anything else.
Thanks to Humble Bundle and Amazon sales I have a hefty backlog of the Cain omnibus editions (£1.99 each), the Priests of Mars, Solar Macharius, Eisenhorn and Night Lords trilogies (same price) to get through before I worry about buying more.
The next Must Purchase for me though will be if the third Siege of Terra book comes out for a sale price. The first two ended up at £1.99 via Kindle.
Daemonifuge books are out in the wild! Mine just arrived and its freaking great! Full colour, great printing, great binding and very glossy bright and ideal. Well worth a buy!
I'm talking about the anniversary edition not the huge collectors edition Ergo just Daemonifuge. Which if I'm right has gone out of stock on the GW website, but I believe Amazon and 3rd party stores and local stores are getting copies so if you hunt around today you might still find it
Also my "non new edition" budget just vanished for the month on Inferno reprints! Now to wait 120days
Overread wrote: I'm talking about the anniversary edition not the huge collectors edition
So am I.
Ergo just Daemonifuge. Which if I'm right has gone out of stock on the GW website, but I believe Amazon and 3rd party stores and local stores are getting copies so if you hunt around today you might still find it
Also my "non new edition" budget just vanished for the month on Inferno reprints! Now to wait 120days
My Amazon order has already slipped from Prime next-day delivery(ie, the 10th) to June 16th. I fully expect it to slip again, and then be cancelled, because I've tried to get BL products through third party stores before and GW reps consistently over-promise and under-deliver when it comes to stock. Ordering it elsewhere at this point is likely futile, and there's no sign of it in local stores.
Strange times at the Black Library. Josh Reynold's final novel from them, Fabius Bile: Manflayer was only available direct from GW as a hardback. All other sites had to cancel orders for the hardcover; GW did not supply any to third parties.
Even better - the hardback version of Manflayer is sold out if you didn’t get one now. You’ll have to settle for ebook or audio until whenever the paperback edition is released.
Black Library has picked up an impressive four nominations in the 2020 Scribe Awards, which celebrate excellence in tie-in fiction. Which of these worthy nominees do you want to see scooping prizes
Spoiler:
I quite enjoyed Red Feast, haven't perused any of the others yet.
Be nice with these series to have an idea of when the next book is supposed to be -- one appreciates that this will by and large be sales affected but some idea would be nice.
Watcher in the Rain is well-deserving of a nomination, their audio dramas have only gotten better over time and the Horror dramas, especially the two by mister Worley, make great use of sound effects backed by a good cast of actors.
I really enjoyed red feast a great fantasy novel. I dont read a lot of AoS but this was great even as a stand alone fantasy piece. Watcher in the rain is my only foray to not horror (purely because of the cover!) I found it ok.... it wasn’t what I was expecting from the horror title. I can’t say I found it horrific or scary. I alway enjoy being taken into the human population of 40k but I’m not going to say it was superb in my world anyway.
Gav has won awards before so I’m not suprised he is up again. I always wonder what criteria judges use for these awards.
Overread wrote: I'm talking about the anniversary edition not the huge collectors edition
So am I.
Ergo just Daemonifuge. Which if I'm right has gone out of stock on the GW website, but I believe Amazon and 3rd party stores and local stores are getting copies so if you hunt around today you might still find it
Also my "non new edition" budget just vanished for the month on Inferno reprints! Now to wait 120days
My Amazon order has already slipped from Prime next-day delivery(ie, the 10th) to June 16th. I fully expect it to slip again, and then be cancelled, because I've tried to get BL products through third party stores before and GW reps consistently over-promise and under-deliver when it comes to stock. Ordering it elsewhere at this point is likely futile, and there's no sign of it in local stores.
My normal edition arrived yesterday through third party store. Third book I ordered on pre-order with them in the last months and all have arrived.
Have read the first half, still haven‘t made up my mind about it. It‘s not bad, but not great either.
I missed the release for Daemonifuge 20th edition as i saw the release date as the 9th of July so wasnt expecting it, but then found out that was for third party releases, so it was sold out before i noticed on the 3rd of July.
I ordered a copy from Alchemist shop but i dont expect it to be fulfilled now.
Proper raging as with the tons of spam emails from GW about new box set, i saw nothing about the release of damonifuge, or more specifically that the standard edition was limited stock too.
Seen plenty on ebay for £50 though!
Oh well, i still have the original B&W Manga style size book from a games day some 15 years ago
I also was able to get Manflayer Hard back in my local FLGS, so have the first 2 bile books in paperback coming from GW.
Some more horror coming in October, the first announced novel is The Reverie by Peter Fehervari. Fehevari’s previous novels, particularly Requiem Infernal, would fit right into the horror brand anyway, and are great reads. Will be interesting to see if this fits into his ‘Dark Coil’ or if it’s a separate story.
First time for everything these days.. looks like the Book Depository is unable to fulfil my pre-order of Daemonifuge.
But I did get Titandeath the other day in legacy format, so all that remains is something about a dagger and I've got the entire Horus Heresy series in pauper format on my shelves.
That cover makes me laugh. It looks like they were going for literary kitsch, the kind of trade paperback you’d get if Oprah selected a Doc Savage book for her club.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: That cover makes me laugh. It looks like they were going for literary kitsch, the kind of trade paperback you’d get if Oprah selected a Doc Savage book for her club.
Or the 'adult' covers for the Harry Potter books for grown ups to read on trains!
The FP blurb indicates this is the start of a Black Library Masterworks range. It'll be likely that all the range will have this style of cover.
It does seem to be tapping into the SF and Fantasy Masterworks range that already exists from Gollanz (I think), collecting classics from many authors.
Not my market. I already have either the original paperbacks or e-versions.
Looking up the details the decision is pretty at odds with GW's earlier statement about inclusiveness.
Of course it is. Brand's statement was just virtue signalling.
Warhammer is for everyone, so long as you're in idealogical lockstep with GW.
It's more likely that GW doesn't want their employees or contract staff engaging in online fights with other people on social media accounts that are using their actual names/brand names for GW. You'd likely get in the same trouble with GW if you were arguing/fighting against anyone else online in a big way. That BL is generally books on commission rather than retained staff the punishment might be harsher than if he were a key staff member with a long term contract. One could argue that even as a contract hire it might be better if he'd been reprimanded than let go - however we don't know the ins and outs of the background discussion and GW might have moved to reprimand and then things spiralled from there.
GW being against racism is one thing; GW wanting their staff to start going on witch hunts and engaging in online fights is quite another matter. GW also doesn't want other staff to join in and suddenly have a disaster of having their staff "attacking" other people online etc...
Looking up the details the decision is pretty at odds with GW's earlier statement about inclusiveness.
Of course it is. Brand's statement was just virtue signalling.
Warhammer is for everyone, so long as you're in idealogical lockstep with GW.
It's more likely that GW doesn't want their employees or contract staff engaging in online fights with other people on social media accounts that are using their actual names/brand names for GW. You'd likely get in the same trouble with GW if you were arguing/fighting against anyone else online in a big way. That BL is generally books on commission rather than retained staff the punishment might be harsher than if he were a key staff member with a long term contract. One could argue that even as a contract hire it might be better if he'd been reprimanded than let go - however we don't know the ins and outs of the background discussion and GW might have moved to reprimand and then things spiralled from there.
GW being against racism is one thing; GW wanting their staff to start going on witch hunts and engaging in online fights is quite another matter. GW also doesn't want other staff to join in and suddenly have a disaster of having their staff "attacking" other people online etc...
This. the hysterical emotive knee jerk types on twitter dont seem to be able to comprehend this though.
Looking up the details the decision is pretty at odds with GW's earlier statement about inclusiveness.
Of course it is. Brand's statement was just virtue signalling.
Warhammer is for everyone, so long as you're in idealogical lockstep with GW.
Its nothing to do with ideology. if anything, he was 'in spirit' with their statement. its more likely related to professional conduct whilst being a public representative of the brand.
Someone on reddit received an Email from Black Library, stating they are getting a lot mail-traffic.
The tweets that got Parrot fired were in my opinion not in any way damaging and wouldn’t justify a termination. He basically defended another twitter-user from receiving death threats for making queer-coded Homebrew space marines.
Don’t defend Black Library for this. They could’ve gone plenty of directions and chose the worst one. And now they’ve got to deal with a major influx of strong worded letters sent their way.
Segersgia wrote: Don’t defend Black Library for this. They could’ve gone plenty of directions and chose the worst one. And now they’ve got to deal with a major influx of strong worded letters sent their way.
The only thing is we don't know the messages between the two parties, we don't know that BL moved to fire first. It might have been different and that the two parties fell into disagreement/argument.
Yeah there is a distinct lack of context for anyone to draw conclusions from. there is only really his side of the story so far. it appears tweets may have been deleted, which raises questions. I've had a little look for any potential offenders. not really found anything definitive. The guy has some borderline questionable politics on his thread though, which could understandably cause BL some concern.
I dont think BL are going to drop someone without good reason, particularly if it could potentially end up with a legitimate complaint against them.
At the end of the day, institutions don't usually want overly vocal politics on their employees/affiliates personal pages, especially if their name is also mentioned, and the politics gets into the nasty, unreasonable flame wars that are notorious on twitter.
Segersgia wrote: Someone on reddit received an Email from Black Library, stating they are getting a lot mail-traffic.
The tweets that got Parrot fired were in my opinion not in any way damaging and wouldn’t justify a termination. He basically defended another twitter-user from receiving death threats for making queer-coded Homebrew space marines.
Don’t defend Black Library for this. They could’ve gone plenty of directions and chose the worst one. And now they’ve got to deal with a major influx of strong worded letters sent their way.
Possibly, but until they are laid bare for the general public to judge, no one can no for sure. If they were that innocent, surely the guy would just screenshot, or paraphrase them?
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Yeah there is a distinct lack of context for anyone to draw conclusions from. there is only really his side of the story so far. it appears tweets may have been deleted, which raises questions. I've had a little look for any potential offenders. not really found anything definitive. The guy has some borderline questionable politics on his thread though, which could understandably cause BL some concern.
I dont think BL are going to drop someone without good reason, particularly if it could potentially end up with a legitimate complaint against them.
At the end of the day, institutions don't usually want overly vocal politics on their employees/affiliates personal pages, especially if their name is also mentioned, and the politics gets into the nasty, unreasonable flame wars that are notorious on twitter.
Segersgia wrote: Someone on reddit received an Email from Black Library, stating they are getting a lot mail-traffic.
The tweets that got Parrot fired were in my opinion not in any way damaging and wouldn’t justify a termination. He basically defended another twitter-user from receiving death threats for making queer-coded Homebrew space marines.
Don’t defend Black Library for this. They could’ve gone plenty of directions and chose the worst one. And now they’ve got to deal with a major influx of strong worded letters sent their way.
Possibly, but until they are laid bare for the general public to judge, no one can no for sure. If they were that innocent, surely the guy would just screenshot, or paraphrase them?
He has done exactly that. Check his latest replies on twitter. Reading through his twitter now, I see a little light politics in favour of black lives matter which gw themselves purport to support, a lot of love for his gat who passed away and some genuine excitement about the new Necron minis. Until gw deicided to end their relationship there was nothing remotely controversial on his twitter for several weeks. He claims that he was asked to change his twitter behaviour and all the evidence is that he did.
I genuinely worry that the black library is doing a bad job of taking care of their writers. I lot of complained do social media training. If gw are worried about how free lancers represent their brand, they should offer that kind of training. Whatever you think of his comments in defence of a popular community member, the whole situation has been very poorly handled by black library.
Segersgia wrote: Don’t defend Black Library for this. They could’ve gone plenty of directions and chose the worst one. And now they’ve got to deal with a major influx of strong worded letters sent their way.
The only thing is we don't know the messages between the two parties, we don't know that BL moved to fire first. It might have been different and that the two parties fell into disagreement/argument.
Truthfully, we don't need to know the messages between the two parties. It comes across as someone decided to fire back by writing a complaint to GW. Would not be the first time that has happened.
The part that concerns me, personally, is where Parrott says that they tried to pin the leak of the rulebook and material on him.
Segersgia wrote: Someone on reddit received an Email from Black Library, stating they are getting a lot mail-traffic.
The tweets that got Parrot fired were in my opinion not in any way damaging and wouldn’t justify a termination. He basically defended another twitter-user from receiving death threats for making queer-coded Homebrew space marines.
Don’t defend Black Library for this. They could’ve gone plenty of directions and chose the worst one. And now they’ve got to deal with a major influx of strong worded letters sent their way.
He has done exactly that. Check his latest replies on twitter. Reading through his twitter now, I see a little light politics in favour of black lives matter.
He has done exactly that. Check his latest replies on twitter. Reading through his twitter now, I see a little light politics in favour of black lives matter.
I've seen nothing to support that.
Go onto his twitter, look at the most recent threads in his tweets and replies, he quotes most of the tweets that people found offensive including the one linked above.
Between "Warhammer Is For People Who Politically Agree With Us", copyright strikes and then forcing sponsors to abandon a particular smug YouTuber (who is apparently not to be named here), and now this, Games Workshop seems to be making a lot of reactionary and emotional decisions recently. I mean, GW has always made poor decisions out of greed and possessiveness, but I don't remember the drama ever being so personal.
Sqorgar wrote: Between "Warhammer Is For People Who Politically Agree With Us", copyright strikes and then forcing sponsors to abandon a particular smug YouTuber (who is apparently not to be named here), and now this, Games Workshop seems to be making a lot of reactionary and emotional decisions recently. I mean, GW has always made poor decisions out of greed and possessiveness, but I don't remember the drama ever being so personal.
I’m sorry but that is utter crap. The statement was basically, “Warhammer is for everyone who isn’t a massive racist”. It has nothing to do with politics, unless you think being racist is a valid political standpoint.
He has done exactly that. Check his latest replies on twitter. Reading through his twitter now, I see a little light politics in favour of black lives matter.
I've seen nothing to support that.
Go onto his twitter, look at the most recent threads in his tweets and replies, he quotes most of the tweets that people found offensive including the one linked above.
It’s different saying I said this and seeing what was actually written.
I want to see what was written in context so I can make my own decision about GW and this
MonkeyBallistic wrote: I’m sorry but that is utter crap. The statement was basically, “Warhammer is for everyone who isn’t a massive racist”. It has nothing to do with politics, unless you think being racist is a valid political standpoint.
The longer this absurd wave of political correctness goes on, your chance of being labeled a racist approaches 100%. For instance, would Games Workshop welcome me as a customer if they knew that I had some Mrs. Butterworth brand syrup in the cabinet? Or that I drank white milk? Or slept in a master bedroom? Ate Uncle Ben rice with a side of Goya black beans? That I don't have a problem with "flesh colored" Band-Aids? That I don't think a statue of Abraham Lincoln should be destroyed? What about my completely unreasonable belief that Orcs are not racial stereotypes and Wizards of the Coast doesn't need to put a disclaimer on every D&D module over 5 years old? Am I racist now?
Where's the racism line that Games Workshop is okay with? Is not favoring the new inclusion requirements for the Oscars enough for Games Workshop to not sell me Slaanesh cultists? Saw an article the other day that MATH is now racist! Does actually playing a Games Workshop game, and using math, now mean that I am too racist to play Games Workshop games? When everything is considered racist, coming out against racism is, in fact, a declaration against everything.
MonkeyBallistic wrote: I’m sorry but that is utter crap. The statement was basically, “Warhammer is for everyone who isn’t a massive racist”. It has nothing to do with politics, unless you think being racist is a valid political standpoint.
The longer this absurd wave of political correctness goes on, your chance of being labeled a racist approaches 100%. For instance, would Games Workshop welcome me as a customer if they knew that I had some Mrs. Butterworth brand syrup in the cabinet? Or that I drank white milk? Or slept in a master bedroom? Ate Uncle Ben rice with a side of Goya black beans? That I don't have a problem with "flesh colored" Band-Aids? That I don't think a statue of Abraham Lincoln should be destroyed? What about my completely unreasonable belief that Orcs are not racial stereotypes and Wizards of the Coast doesn't need to put a disclaimer on every D&D module over 5 years old? Am I racist now?
Where's the racism line that Games Workshop is okay with? Is not favoring the new inclusion requirements for the Oscars enough for Games Workshop to not sell me Slaanesh cultists? Saw an article the other day that MATH is now racist! Does actually playing a Games Workshop game, and using math, now mean that I am too racist to play Games Workshop games? When everything is considered racist, coming out against racism is, in fact, a declaration against everything.
>derides other viewpoints as 'emotional'
>froths at the mouth over a company not wanting their IP to be used as a proxy by xenophobic authoritarians
>derides other viewpoints as 'emotional'
>froths at the mouth over a company not wanting their IP to be used as a proxy by xenophobic authoritarians
Good job Sqoqs
Whatever emotion you are seeing in my post, you are putting there yourself. Try rereading my post with a more proferssorly tone of detached, eye rolling bemusement, maybe with a hint of exhaustion. If you can't laugh at master bedrooms being considered racist, then there truly is no salvation for the human race.
Similarly, I find the idea that Games Workshop is staunchly anti-xenophobic authoritarians, given that their entire setting is literally filled with xenophobic authoritarians - especially when political correctness is entirely about guilt by association. It's like they are suggesting that people who read their fiction aren't welcome to read their fiction. And that's kind of funny.
>derides other viewpoints as 'emotional'
>froths at the mouth over a company not wanting their IP to be used as a proxy by xenophobic authoritarians
Good job Sqoqs
Whatever emotion you are seeing in my post, you are putting there yourself. Try rereading my post with a more proferssorly tone of detached, eye rolling bemusement, maybe with a hint of exhaustion. If you can't laugh at master bedrooms being considered racist, then there truly is no salvation for the human race.
Similarly, I find the idea that Games Workshop is staunchly anti-xenophobic authoritarians, given that their entire setting is literally filled with xenophobic authoritarians - especially when political correctness is entirely about guilt by association. It's like they are suggesting that people who read their fiction aren't welcome to read their fiction. And that's kind of funny.
And I was beginning to think I was the only one who sees that the whole 40k imperium is a giant xenophobic empire of nastyness. It’s kind of what makes the setting so grimdark and interesting. The whole let’s insert pc culture into 40k is bonkers. The imperium is probably the most likely fictional institution to practise racism or any form of ‘ism. The whole system is based on hatred of anything and everyone. It’s supposed to be a nightmare society.
>derides other viewpoints as 'emotional'
>froths at the mouth over a company not wanting their IP to be used as a proxy by xenophobic authoritarians
Good job Sqoqs
Whatever emotion you are seeing in my post, you are putting there yourself. Try rereading my post with a more proferssorly tone of detached, eye rolling bemusement, maybe with a hint of exhaustion. If you can't laugh at master bedrooms being considered racist, then there truly is no salvation for the human race.
And I was beginning to think I was the only one who sees that the whole 40k imperium is a giant xenophobic empire of nastyness. It’s kind of what makes the setting so grimdark and interesting. The whole let’s insert pc culture into 40k is bonkers. The imperium is probably the most likely fictional institution to practise racism or any form of ‘ism. The whole system is based on hatred of anything and everyone. It’s supposed to be a nightmare society.
40kis supposed to be dystopic, it's an example of why that sort of ideology is a failure. But when folks in the underbelly of gaming start calling a certain political leader "God Emperor" and photoshopping his face onto GW's work it's not a surprise that the company doesn't want to be associated with real world vileness.
Honestly it's to the point where satire is dead because no matter how grim, dystopic and horrible you make a setting there's always someone who'll want to use it as a proxy for their beliefs.
MonkeyBallistic wrote: I’m sorry but that is utter crap. The statement was basically, “Warhammer is for everyone who isn’t a massive racist”. It has nothing to do with politics, unless you think being racist is a valid political standpoint.
The longer this absurd wave of political correctness goes on, your chance of being labeled a racist approaches 100%. For instance, would Games Workshop welcome me as a customer if they knew that I had some Mrs. Butterworth brand syrup in the cabinet? Or that I drank white milk? Or slept in a master bedroom? Ate Uncle Ben rice with a side of Goya black beans? That I don't have a problem with "flesh colored" Band-Aids? That I don't think a statue of Abraham Lincoln should be destroyed? What about my completely unreasonable belief that Orcs are not racial stereotypes and Wizards of the Coast doesn't need to put a disclaimer on every D&D module over 5 years old? Am I racist now?
Where's the racism line that Games Workshop is okay with? Is not favoring the new inclusion requirements for the Oscars enough for Games Workshop to not sell me Slaanesh cultists? Saw an article the other day that MATH is now racist! Does actually playing a Games Workshop game, and using math, now mean that I am too racist to play Games Workshop games? When everything is considered racist, coming out against racism is, in fact, a declaration against everything.
I assume this is some kind of satire ... because there’s no way anyone could type this and expect it to be taken seriously.
the Ultramarine special edition Indomitus sold out --- sot the days theme -- but at the time of typing the Necron version is still available.
..la plus ca change there eh ?
Ordered the regular version of the book and the warriors & warlords book too.
Kinda tempted by the softcover version of Beastgrave as I generally dig Mr Werner's stuff a fair bit, dunno quite what it is but always found stories featuring dryads/similar heavily to never quite work for me.
The blurb seems to suggest that some/much of the novel is from the beastman POV, is that so ?
40kis supposed to be dystopic, it's an example of why that sort of ideology is a failure. But when folks in the underbelly of gaming start calling a certain political leader "God Emperor" and photoshopping his face onto GW's work it's not a surprise that the company doesn't want to be associated with real world vileness.
How is making Trump memes related to racism?
Honestly it's to the point where satire is dead because no matter how grim, dystopic and horrible you make a setting there's always someone who'll want to use it as a proxy for their beliefs.
Satire is dead because people can't comprehend irony anymore, in the same way that a fish can't comprehend the ocean. If you spend your whole life soaking it, you won't see it, even if someone points it out.
Besides, I'm not sure Black Library elevates itself quite to the level of satire. Judge Dredd and a lot of the material from 2000AD that GW copied were satirical, but GW's version lacked any of the subtext that made it an ironic commentary on anything. Some of it remained just by virtue of the totality of what GW cribbed.
He has done exactly that. Check his latest replies on twitter. Reading through his twitter now, I see a little light politics in favour of black lives matter.
I've seen nothing to support that.
Go onto his twitter, look at the most recent threads in his tweets and replies, he quotes most of the tweets that people found offensive including the one linked above.
I over deleted. I meant I haven't seen anything explicitly saying games workshop supports that so presently en vogue group.
That didn't take long, seeing as there isn't any. Enjoy boycotting something you enjoy on the basis of a tweet from someone with every reason to embellish the truth
That didn't take long, seeing as there isn't any. Enjoy boycotting something you enjoy on the basis of a tweet from someone with every reason to embellish the truth
Thing is neither side has to embellish, they just might be interpreting the situation differently and presenting that angle to the public. We also have no idea if there was anything else going on - eg the author might have been very hard to work with or not got on with key staff; or it might be they got on great, but really disagreed over this situation. There's so many aspects we don't know that we really can't judge either party and a proper study could show that neither party is fully in the right nor in the wrong either.
This thread is for discussing Black Library news and rumors - i.e. upcoming releases, book series, etc.
Please take the OT discussion elsewhere - to the Off Topic forum, if it's something we discuss on Dakka (i.e. not religion or politics) or to another site altogether if it's not.
I would suspect those who are were likely not buying things from BL/GW before anyway. Or they were right on the fence and are just using this more as an excuse to help self justify them turning away.
Overread wrote: I would suspect those who are were likely not buying things from BL/GW before anyway. Or they were right on the fence and are just using this more as an excuse to help self justify them turning away.
The Hammer & The Eagle: Icons of Warhammer is a massive anthology focused on the characters of the Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar universes. 27 stories form an amazing introduction to the likes of Ibram Gaunt, Callus and Toll, Mephiston, Hamilcar, and many more. If you’re more visually-oriented, you’ll love Black Library: The Art of Warhammer 40,000, a celebration of two decades of incredible cover art from the 41st Millennium, packed with 248 pages of sumptuous visual treats.
As well as all of these exciting releases on the Saturday, the celebration will encompass the weeks before and after the day itself too. Across the last week of July, you’ll be able to read articles every day, right here, delving into the new stories and what the characters mean to Warhammer. We’ll also have a series of Twitch shows talking with some Black Library authors, and you’ll want to keep your eye on the Black Library Instagram page for a chance to win a copy of Bloodlines!
The Horus bookends remind one strongly of a similar release for the LOTR special edition DVDs of the Gondorian -- is that right ? --- "river statues"/The Argonaths which one then saw pop up on various gaming tables here and there for the next decade or so.
Chances are they'll cost more than the earth and I don't want to get rid of mine, pauper edition or not, it's signed by the author waaaaaay back when the first novel was released.
But good on AD-B for getting the fancy treatment with that trilogy.
BrookM wrote: Chances are they'll cost more than the earth and I don't want to get rid of mine, pauper edition or not, it's signed by the author waaaaaay back when the first novel was released.
But good on AD-B for getting the fancy treatment with that trilogy.
That's fair enough. Honestly I need to spare space on my bookshelf as I have too many books. Those are lovely though.
Can anyone recommend the inferno books at all? I remember them partially from when I was a kid, but what's their content like? Is it mainly comics? I want to know if it's worth buying a few before they disappear.
Old Inferno! prints were a mix of short stories, comics and fluff articles with art in magazine format. It mainly was about short stories though, used as an recruiting tool for BL to get new authors involved. A lot of BL's current writers got their start there penning short stories.
New Inferno! publications are full-on short story omnibuses in softback novel format, with the writers being a mix of established authors and as with the previous run, a slew of new authors making their writing debut for BL.
If you like short stories, it's well worth getting into, as there's plenty of diverse content being handled in each issue outside of 40k and AoS, like Necromunda, WarCry, Blood Bowl and sometimes even Warhammer Fantasy.
BrookM wrote: Chances are they'll cost more than the earth and I don't want to get rid of mine, pauper edition or not, it's signed by the author waaaaaay back when the first novel was released.
But good on AD-B for getting the fancy treatment with that trilogy.
The last time they did the box sets they were £50. Which isn’t bad in the world of GW. I would hope they couldn’t increase it much more than 5 or 10 pounds at the the most.
Lord Damocles wrote: I'm confused.
The Coming Soon page lists Vaults of Obsidian as pre-prder 29th August 2020.
But I'm looking at my copy on my shelf right now..?
Lord Damocles wrote: I'm confused.
The Coming Soon page lists Vaults of Obsidian as pre-prder 29th August 2020.
But I'm looking at my copy on my shelf right now..?
Do you have the hardback or paperback? Because the upcoming release is for the latter.
Lord Damocles wrote: I'm confused.
The Coming Soon page lists Vaults of Obsidian as pre-prder 29th August 2020.
But I'm looking at my copy on my shelf right now..?
Do you have the hardback or paperback? Because the upcoming release is for the latter.
Lord Damocles wrote: I'm confused.
The Coming Soon page lists Vaults of Obsidian as pre-prder 29th August 2020.
But I'm looking at my copy on my shelf right now..?
Do you have the hardback or paperback? Because the upcoming release is for the latter.
I guess this is just GW's back end for BL not being online as quickly in terms of shipping and back-end packing. Which makes sense esp if it ends up coming out of the already overworked same packing system as the models.
That said it would be nice to see BL pick up speed again.
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but Josh Reynolds has parted ways with Black Library.
From his blog:
Black Library released the conclusion to my Fabius Bile trilogy, Manflayer. It’s available in the usual places, including Amazon, AbeBooks, Audible, et al. This one is a bit bittersweet for me, as it’s not only the final book in the trilogy, but also my final book for Black Library. I’ve been writing for Black Library since 2010, and while I’ll miss it, I’m excited to see what new projects the next decade brings.
It was wildly reported a few weeks/months ago when it came to light on his twitter. That said his message back then (he's on the Grand Alliance forums) was simply that he'd taken on new projects and life had become very busy for him, so he'd decided to focus on certain aspects and not others. Which meant stepping away from BL.
Since its mostly all work for hire anyway its not a huge problem, if in the future he wanted too I'm sure he could come back.
IT's a shame to be sure, I've really enjoyed his work and heck is Pestilense book was my intro into AoS in book form.
Is the Art Book available on the 1st August a limited thing or not? I'm not sure if like the Bookmark and Bookends that's going be another thing that once it's sold out, it's gone.
Lord Damocles wrote: I'm confused. The Coming Soon page lists Vaults of Obsidian as pre-prder 29th August 2020. But I'm looking at my copy on my shelf right now..?
Do you have the hardback or paperback? Because the upcoming release is for the latter.
Probably a smaller cheaper pocket size paperback. Black Library likes to release there paperbacks in two formats. After the hardbacks sell out there is a large format book that goes for about $15-$18. Later there is a mass market paperback that is about $9-$10. Look at it like the Horus Heresy books, first prints are the hardbacks, then the paperbacks that are almost the same size as the hardbacks, and finally there is the pocket size paperbacks and ebooks.
Mentlegen324 wrote: Is the Art Book available on the 1st August a limited thing or not? I'm not sure if like the Bookmark and Bookends that's going be another thing that once it's sold out, it's gone.
Looks like the bookmark and ends are event only, so when they're gone that's it. Hopefully they're not stupidly limited numbered.
Lord Damocles wrote: I'm confused.
The Coming Soon page lists Vaults of Obsidian as pre-prder 29th August 2020.
But I'm looking at my copy on my shelf right now..?
Do you have the hardback or paperback? Because the upcoming release is for the latter.
Probably a smaller cheaper pocket size paperback.
Black Library likes to release there paperbacks in two formats. After the hardbacks sell out there is a large format book that goes for about $15-$18. Later there is a mass market paperback that is about $9-$10. Look at it like the Horus Heresy books, first prints are the hardbacks, then the paperbacks that are almost the same size as the hardbacks, and finally there is the pocket size paperbacks and ebooks.
Mentlegen324 wrote: Is the Art Book available on the 1st August a limited thing or not? I'm not sure if like the Bookmark and Bookends that's going be another thing that once it's sold out, it's gone.
Looks like the bookmark and ends are event only, so when they're gone that's it. Hopefully they're not stupidly limited numbered.
It’s only the Horus Heresy books that have the two paperback formats, as far as I know.
There are some other books that have both formats, but most of them were released just before the transition to all Trade Paberbacks, and then BL reprinted them as TPBs. Or they were written by Dan Abnett and get special editions out the wazoo. But yeah, so far as I know, they haven't released a book in MMPB in years outside of the HH.
Mentlegen324 wrote: Is the Art Book available on the 1st August a limited thing or not? I'm not sure if like the Bookmark and Bookends that's going be another thing that once it's sold out, it's gone.
Almost all the lore/art books are limited, because they are just one print run. They just tend to make a lot of them, but you will be lucky to get a copy a week later. So if you want it, grab it soon.
Mentlegen324 wrote: Is the Art Book available on the 1st August a limited thing or not? I'm not sure if like the Bookmark and Bookends that's going be another thing that once it's sold out, it's gone.
Almost all the lore/art books are limited, because they are just one print run. They just tend to make a lot of them, but you will be lucky to get a copy a week later. So if you want it, grab it soon.
Is there any indication of price for the art book? From what I remember there was one for the store anniversary about 2 years ago that was £30 or so, but the Horus Heresy artbook was like £45. I like art books and want it but close £50 would seem a bit much to me when the typical price for non-GW stuff is around £30.
The artbook is probably only going to be sold through GW and BL, so not available anywhere else.
Not sure if already mentioned, but more titles mentioned in the past now have a release date, plus some others I haven't seen before, along with another Primer re-re-release:
Brutal Kunnin looks like it could be good. Is Guy Haley putting out good stuff? Also, any word on what will be in the Infantryman’s handbook that was not in the Uplifting Primer?
BrookM wrote: Varagantua is a setting specifically created for Warhammer Crime.
I’m pretty sure Varagantua first appeared on a children’s show where he fought against a giant robot scientist who loves children named Octane Ocelot.
Cannot wait for Brutal Kunnin. I wonder if Infantryman's Handbook will have any new material? Also an advice to any interested in Indomitus - save your money, it is a bad advertisement for a Indomitus box. @Voss gives a better desription here (Spoilers!):
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/790349.page
WarCom: Who are your main protagonists, and can you tell us a little about them?
Alec: So, we’ve got a ratling sniper named Baggit. He’s the brains of the operation (or at least thinks he is). He’s this fast-talking, charismatic, thieving little git whose self-confidence borders on the delusional. As a sniper, he has a knack for calculating the angles and is always hunting for the next long-shot money-making scheme.
His ogryn pal Clodde survived being shot in the head. It was actually Baggit who shot him, though he insists he didn’t do it on purpose… Anyway, the bullet’s still lodged inside Clodde’s brain, which has altered his thought patterns and left him in a permanent state of Zen-like serenity. He still loves ogryn things like firing guns, blowing stuff up, and punching people into orbit, but he’s very philosophical about it.
And:
WarCom: In one sentence, can you tell us why people should listen to Dredge Runners?
Alec: You’ll hear life in the gutters of a hive world through the eyes of a ratling rogue and an ogryn hooligan who yearns to write poetry about the wonders of high-calibre weaponry.
The Imperium gets enough to warrant seperate sections as factions, but Eldar + Orks + Tau + Necron + Tyranids + others are only combined as a single theme? Having 5 out of 8 (or 6, if the underhive counts) categories dedicated to the Imperium really suggests that there isn't going to be much Xenos stuff in comparison.
I suppose it is an artbook for Black Library novel covers though, and there aren't that many dedicated to Xenos factions.
I'm assuming there's still no indication of price?
From the Twitch stream today: Next instalment of the Bequin trilogy should be dropping "soon" according to Dan, he's also started work on the last book.
BrookM wrote: From the Twitch stream today: Next instalment of the Bequin trilogy should be dropping "soon" according to Dan, he's also started work on the last book.
As long as they rerelease Pariah too, because that’s a nightmare to get hold of now and I haven’t read it yet. Exciting though!
BrookM wrote: From the Twitch stream today: Next instalment of the Bequin trilogy should be dropping "soon" according to Dan, he's also started work on the last book.
Woot!
Though I say that as someone who only picked up the first book two weeks ago and is now only just getting into the last Ravenor book.
Just picked up a copy of the Black Library artbook. The cover design is a bit odd but the contents look pretty nice and its quite reasonably priced I think. Still on the fence about the Horus bookends though.
I can't decide on the Black Library artbook. I like art books a lot, but the Visions of Heresy artbook is currently £50 from Games Workshop...or £35 from Amazon - so I'm wondering if this new one might end up similarly? Can hobby sites that GW supply get them at a discount like other products?
Mentlegen324 wrote: I can't decide on the Black Library artbook. I like art books a lot, but the Visions of Heresy artbook is currently £50 from Games Workshop...or £35 from Amazon - so I'm wondering if this new one might end up similarly? Can places that stock other GW products get them too (at the usual discount)?
Hmmm, that's a fair point. Ah well, too late for me now! Perhaps the wider appeal of the HH series has meant a larger print run for the Visions of Heresy artbook?
Like you I like art books, but GW only ever tends to print them short-term (ergo one bulk print run) and I'm just way too tapped out at present to really justify affording it this week/month.
If it hangs around I'd get it, but I'm not going to be on the front row for it sadly.
Edit - its $85 in New Zealand so that might be around £30 in the UK
