Kanluwen wrote: So with regards to the 112 Biker:
1) Available to all Ariadna(shame they released a new crappy Kazak Doctor in the box instead of a second Dozer or a dismounted 112)
2) Supposedly doesn't replace the existing 112 profile
3) Has smoke
Grey Templar wrote: We already have a 112 model so no need for a dismounted version.
Disagree. If you're going to sell the Biker that's a new profile, they better come with a dismounted version.
I expect to have the usual apologists coming to tell me that it "wouldn't be practical", but I'd like to point out that we didn't need the Kazak Doctor in an all-Ariadna pack.
But wouldn't a Biker 112 with a Dismount model cost the same as buying a 112 without a bike and 112 with a bike separately?
This model is unique among bikers in that it has a preexisting non-biker profile which just about everybody already has. Just like I don't expect the eventual Montessa bike model to have a dismount, everybody already has their regular models for that.
Its true we didn't need a Kazak doctor. But thats more because nobody uses the Kazak doctor because he can't link
Kanluwen wrote: So with regards to the 112 Biker:
1) Available to all Ariadna(shame they released a new crappy Kazak Doctor in the box instead of a second Dozer or a dismounted 112)
2) Supposedly doesn't replace the existing 112 profile
3) Has smoke
But wouldn't a Biker 112 with a Dismount model cost the same as buying a 112 without a bike and 112 with a bike separately?
Not unless they're playing funny games with the numbers it shouldn't.
This model is unique among bikers in that it has a preexisting non-biker profile which just about everybody already has. Just like I don't expect the eventual Montessa bike model to have a dismount, everybody already has their regular models for that.
You know that the Montesa Bikers don't actually have any of the existing Montesa profiles right?
Its true we didn't need a Kazak doctor. But thats more because nobody uses the Kazak doctor because he can't link
Or it's because in an Ariadna Support Pack, you should be seeing things that everyone can use.
Dozer and 112 are for every Ariadnan force. TAK is the only ones with Kazak Doctors.
So USARF, MRRF, and Caledonia are getting Kazak Doctors now?
Shame they didn't just shove that into the Line Kazaks box--they basically did so anywho with the one sculpt.
Come on man. Not every model in a support box has to be usable in the entire faction. The Sophetect in the ALEPH support box can't be used in Steel Phalanx.
Maybe not "has to be" but certainly "ought to be" usable. However, support boxes seem to be created with vanilla armies in mind, with the exception of the JSA support box. (which existed prior to the "uprising" debacle.)
Anyway, nothing this month for me. However, were I to expand my Yu Jing, the IA box is nice. Dart is adequate.
Nah, motorcycles are fun. And I won't be satisfied till the Kum biker sectorial comes out. All it should add is a Forward Observer profile to Kum Bikers, Kum Bikers gain Fireteam Duo, Kasym gains Inspiring Leadership, Kasym and the twins count as Kum for Fireteam composition. I want my dream of a decent all Bike list to be real.
So USARF, MRRF, and Caledonia are getting Kazak Doctors now?
Shame they didn't just shove that into the Line Kazaks box--they basically did so anywho with the one sculpt.
As I said Ariadna players, this box is useful to the majority of the player base.
Red Harvest wrote:However, support boxes seem to be created with vanilla armies in mind, with the exception of the JSA support box. (which existed prior to the "uprising" debacle.)
That and the Aleph ones, are the only exception of such boxes not targeting the "vanilla" faction, all three created by consolidating individual blister SKU in boxes though not created from scratch.
It's not a huge problem for ALEPH, since the Sophotect can serve as a dactyl proxy, and either dactyl can serve as a sophotect, without much fuss. However, getting netrods for Steel Phalanx means getting the Sophotect box.
We'll see what new packaging hijinx CB gets up to with ALEPH, if any, soon enough, as CB starts rolling out those very nice Vedic minis.
So USARF, MRRF, and Caledonia are getting Kazak Doctors now?
Shame they didn't just shove that into the Line Kazaks box--they basically did so anywho with the one sculpt.
As I said Ariadna players, this box is useful to the majority of the player base.
Yeah, no. This is the problem that you always seem to have. You forget that Ariadna isn't like other factions where there's lots of crossover.
If I have a TAK or USARF force? I have maybe one or two items that are crossovers without dipping into proxies.
Also funny that if Support Packs are meant to be "vanilla faction", why did we need a Dactyl Support Pack?
Red Harvest wrote:However, support boxes seem to be created with vanilla armies in mind, with the exception of the JSA support box. (which existed prior to the "uprising" debacle.)
That and the Aleph ones, are the only exception of such boxes not targeting the "vanilla" faction, all three created by consolidating individual blister SKU in boxes though not created from scratch.
Support Boxes were created with Campaign Paradiso in mind. It's still in the product briefs from when they first started doing them:
Spoiler:
ALEPH Support Pack. A new kind of compilation box specially designed by CB for new players and for those ALEPH players who want to play the Paradiso Campaign. The Support Pack of the AI’s army comprises a Sophotect, two Yudbot Remotes and three useful and cheap Netrods to provide Orders for your Army list. Whether you are going to play scenarios or not, this is a release ALEPH rookies cannot go without!
A new kind of compilation box specially designed by CB for new players. Thinking ahead to the ITS missions in which they will be very useful, this Support Pack comprise a Doctor-Engineer model and also their G: Servant Remotes.
The Med-Tech are intelligent bio-artificial units suited to the medical and technical maintenance needs of the entire Combined Army. Thanks to their nano-forges, the Med-Techs create their Slave Drones to operate remotely on the battlefield.
1x MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID (Pistol)
2x SLAVE DRONE (Electric Pulse)
But since then? We've gotten the JSA Support Pack, the Tomcat Pack(which is a Support Pack for all intents and purposes, no matter what some might try to argue--it took the Engineer and 'basic goon' model, bundled it with a new Zondcat and Doctor model and called it a day), and the Dactyl Support Pack.
So let's not pretend that they don't understand their own game where some subfactions can't take items and that this would have been a perfect spot for an actual "all-faction" Support Pack for Ariadna, and that the presence of a Kazak Doctor negates it as anything but TAK/Vanilla.
You could always use the Kazak Doctor as something else. It could pass for a Wardriver, Hardcase with Rifle, etc... Its a fairly generic looking model. Ushanka's are quite fashionable everywhere not just in Tartary
Grey Templar wrote: You could always use the Kazak Doctor as something else. It could pass for a Wardriver, Hardcase with Rifle, etc... Its a fairly generic looking model. Ushanka's are quite fashionable everywhere not just in Tartary
Christ, that's something I forgot about.
They could have given us a fricking non-LE Wardriver model, since ALL of the factions can take that.
And no, proxying is not an answer. Also, ushankas aren't "quite fashionable everywhere". Each of the different groups have their own 'flavor' and styles of dress when it comes to everything else. Or at least that's their explanation for the derptastic cowboy hatted Hardcase(which is a stupid concept too) and Derpsperados.
I got to be honest I'm not a huge fan of the Invincible Stuff..
It's by no means garbage...I think it's the concept, I'm just not a fan of it.
Sad to say that too I had high hopes... if Shang Ji get a Unit Set and the Mowang are done well I might get a single build limited insertion force. Gimmicky Liu Xing isn't enough to sell me once they change up the season that models not going to be useful not as much as people are going to use it today in this season under this set of ITS circumstances.
I’m assuming a box because it doesn’t specify a load out like the others.
Edit: it is - ‘This box includes four miniatures: One Yadu with HMG, one Yadu with Heavy Rocket Launcher and Submachine Gun, one Yadu Hacker with Boarding Shotgun and one Yadu with Combi Rifle and E/Marat.’
"We can only say at this point that the black It represents another way to play Infinity, and you will love it."
I'm hopeful this is from the "idea list"... because it says "Another way to play infinity" it could be the 15mm scale mentioned! Whootwhoot! that would means Cutters, Raicho, Iguana etc the size of heavy gear models but better.... train pains on big bases Yes Please!
Probally getting ahead of myself but in process of things
1. They have a normal scale skirmish in Aristeia!
2. RPG for in-depth play
3. 15mm Mentioned already
I'm quite interested in seeing what the new game or game mode is too. But the wording they used "another way to play" makes me wonder if it's just an campaign rule set or something similar as I think when they were starting to hint at Aristeia! they said a new game out right.
If it is a new game I'm hoping for a dungon crawl or boardgame with minis for a few reasons:
1) Would give them a reason to make more plastics especially considering how many miniatures are required for the RPG (the 2d20 system a lot of encounters are 20+ figures as most things die in one hit). Plus this wouldn't take away from manufacturing for the main game.
2) I could get more people to play then the wargame. Only a few in my group like wargames (RPGS>Boardgames>wargames) so the number of times I get to play is like 4 a year which means each game takes 3 hours as we all have to relearn the rules which means we never play anymore as it takes too long.
3) Would be nice to have a co-op game in the universe.
But a 15mm game wouldn't surprise me considering the company's history with the scale.
.Mikes. wrote: Infinity rules adapted for Fantasy. You heard it hear first.
I’d say that’s a new game, rather than a new way to play infinity. It would need all new models.
You can only field figures that are only carrying melee weapons, bows or hackers without weapons to be wizards. You are allowed to cut off all equipment that wouldn't fit the setting.
Yeah but you guys are forgetting he said a new way to play Infinity that's not going to be a fantasy game although fantasy was mentioned in their game ideas list seen what 2 or 3 years ago... what they did mention related to Infiniti was a 15 mm game and as MonkeySloth said... corvus does have a history with 15 mm...
To be honest it would be a smart move because there are no really cool 15 mm games there's just not.... Heavy Gear is the closest thing and unfortunately it's just dated and not good enough...
They have 3D renders they can be tuned down and made into 15mm models very simply like retrofitting pre-existing 3D renders to a smaller scale is not a huge task that means there's a possibility the 3d line could be scaled down...
Let me edit this before everybody starts screaming about the high high details of the Infiniti line you can cover a lot of that up remove a lot of it because it's not going to read in 15 mm... I'm not naive enough to think that the actual 3D models that exist currently could be scaled down and be sufficient because I know that they're way too detailed there would have to be some detail removal excetera excetera excetera but could totally be done the basics for all the armies are there in 3D
Monkeysloth wrote: Could be a videogame as in that same article they say
Some other collaborative projects will be announced throughout the year. It’s time to take our universe and brand much further!
So I'm pretty much in the video game side of things. At the very least it can't be worse then Privateer's attempt.
You're so right it totally could be... that would be Dope if its on a main console not just PC. I thought I seen something on Artstation awhile back... I'll have to Dig.
Why? Consoles suck. They have the most toxic communities and they don’t share content because the console companies are also generally console game producers too. PC is the only way to go
Monkeysloth wrote: ya, lets not go down this stupid path until at least there is a confirmed game. No need to rouse the mods pre-maturely.
There are still mods on here?
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Grey Templar wrote: Why? Consoles suck. They have the most toxic communities and they don’t share content because the console companies are also generally console game producers too. PC is the only way to go
There is a half-decent (well maybe quarter decent) version on Steam through tabletop simulator. People play minis games on there all the time.
Infinity would make a sick game if the right people were making it.
You could probably even do a direct port of Infinity into an XCOM style game. Down to using D20 probability RNG for all rolls. XCOM even has pretty nice procedural map generation at this point.
Grey Templar wrote: Why? Consoles suck. They have the most toxic communities and they don’t share content because the console companies are also generally console game producers too. PC is the only way to go
Because not all of us play PC games mainly....
I still think it's 15mm war scale infinity. I just think about the"brain strom" list, corvus already has 15mm prior to Warcrow and Infinity... I doubt " a new way to play infinity" is fantasy... Videogame... maybe.
Well see... if it is 15mm that could become huge. I'd love 15mm Tag warfare.
Dreeeeamm dream dream dream Dreeeeam
Co-Op dungeon crawl boardgame, ala Descent/Imperial Assault is my guess. O-12 Spec Ops vs. Combined/Morat as base game, PanO, Yu Jing, Nomad, Haqq, Ariadna antagonists as expansions. Tohaa, Shas and Aleph are a constant "counter" Spec Ops team/ever present threat that could be sprung on any mission.
What does "play Infinity" mean? Does it mean using the rules? In which case it could be an expansion of the spec-ops rules or something else more narrative-focused than the last few years
Or does it mean using the miniatures? a Warhammer Quest-style game that you can use your existing models in?
Or is it playing in the Infinity setting? In which case it could be either of the above or something new; 10 or 15mm platoon- or company-level game, aerospace dogfighting, space naval combat, a virtual reality hacking game?
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: It's probably not this, but a free quickstart for the Modipheus Infinity RPG has appeared (I think it's new? I've not seen it before anyway)
I don’t think it’s new, and if it is it’s just a new version. I’ve had the RPG QuickStart rules downloaded for a while now.
Not new. Thq QSR has been available for some time now. A nice reminder for those who did not know.
It'll be a new way to play, as in a campaign system, or a different type of scenario template from the one used as the ITS template. An updated Paradiso.
No more comments on the releases?
-Yadu Box
-Raoul Specter BSG -Khawarij box
-Echo Bravo Paramedic w. WildParrot
Dāoyīng Hacker with Boarding Shotgun
I think the presence of the Khawarij box is a good indication that Ramah Task force is coming, probably in book that'll be announced at the next "N". The one with the new scenario types and campaign.
Ramah Task Force will be here, probably announced at Adepticon. I think, without any evidence to support it, RTF got 'bumped' for the Invincible Army in an effort to quench the dumpster fire that resulted from the Uprising fiasco.
Raoul is garbage. Trash. Rubbish. Toss it into the dumpster and set it ablaze.
Far more important: Khawarij, super-jumpers in a fireteam. With Tarik. A Khawarij with a mk12 with MSV2. Another with a Heavy Rocket Launcher. New profiles.
Except CB told us that we would have to wait until next year (this year now) to get the IA sectorial. We didn't have to wait. Something did indeed change. Did they advance the release date for 3rd Offensive? I find that highly unlikely.
Raoul is garbage. Trash. Rubbish. Toss it into the dumpster and set it ablaze.
How so?
He doesn't feel well that's all. Raoul is a murder beast!
I feel just fine, thankyouverymuch. Raoul is not available in any of the factions/sectorials I play. So, he's trash. Now, if he were available in QK, and he ought to be, I would most certainly have an entirely different, and much more positive opinion about him.
Red Harvest wrote: Except CB told us that we would have to wait until next year (this year now) to get the IA sectorial. We didn't have to wait. Something did indeed change. Did they advance the release date for 3rd Offensive? I find that highly unlikely.
Surely advancing the release date for the book (or even just leaving IA in 2018 as a surprise at the end of the year, similar to Druze last year) is just as likely as changing content in the book at the last minute, bearing in mind the lead time for printed stuff?
ImAGeek wrote: Awkward pose. He’s not looking where his gun is pointing, but not looking away enough for it to seem deliberate.
Exactly that. I'd have liked a little more momentum on him. The far right picture sells me on it more than the other two and I'll probably like it more with some tweaks to the paint scheme.
What an awful figure. Hard pass for me. I'll stick to my Ayyar stand-in.
You could probably fix most of what's wrong by cutting him in half at the belt and using the legs from another figure, but I think he'd still be mediocre figure even with good legs
Yeah not a good look that one. He's almost got this old retro pilot vibe going with his bottom half that just completely clashes with the top. And what's going on with those shoulder pads?
I was so looking forward to Raoul but he's such a disappointment. He's utterly weird.
Awkward pose, pyjamas with heavy jetpack. The hood is way too big and so on.
Maximum fail...
Yeah, I like the top half, not fond of the bottom. Honestly, I've been kind of worried because I didn't care for the bottom in his concept art either. The hood I was totally expecting since he's Moon Knight and all, but I do not get where the baggy pants fit in at all.
Red Harvest wrote: ...Raoul is garbage. Trash. Rubbish. Toss it into the dumpster and set it ablaze.
Far more important: Khawarij, super-jumpers in a fireteam. With Tarik. A Khawarij with a mk12 with MSV2. Another with a Heavy Rocket Launcher. New profiles. EDIT to add: And awesome minis!
Called It
However, if you paint Raoul's onesie like a pikachu pokemon, that would be nifty.
Red Harvest wrote: ...Raoul is garbage. Trash. Rubbish. Toss it into the dumpster and set it ablaze.
Far more important: Khawarij, super-jumpers in a fireteam. With Tarik. A Khawarij with a mk12 with MSV2. Another with a Heavy Rocket Launcher. New profiles. EDIT to add: And awesome minis!
Called It
However, if you paint Raoul's onesie like a pikachu pokemon, that would be nifty.
Sorry Modock, but even your exceptional painting skills could not save this mini.
The good news is that the Yadu Box and the Echo Bravo Paramedic w. WildParrot ought to be pretty good. CB has been knocking it out of the park with the Vedics, and a fair number of the recent Pan-O minis have been pretty good too.
What kind of armor is that echo bravo PanO fig modelled with? I basically follow the thread for minis pron so am not familiar with the stats. Looks cool though.
Kanluwen wrote: It's a drop trooper where the AD pack is actually the bot.
Its ARM value is "1".
Thanks! To clarify, is that considered light, medium, or heavy armor? It has elements that design flourishes that resemble heavy armor so I was curious as that number value doesn't indicate that.
Kanluwen wrote: It's a drop trooper where the AD pack is actually the bot.
Its ARM value is "1".
Thanks! To clarify, is that considered light, medium, or heavy armor? It has elements that design flourishes that resemble heavy armor so I was curious as that number value doesn't indicate that.
He has light armour. Heavy armour is generality ARM 3-6.
He has light armour. Heavy armour is generality ARM 3-6.
Thanks. Maybe it's just me but the visual cues I'm getting from the sculpt made me think that it was at least medium armor. Am I the only one who got that impression?
Kanluwen wrote: It's a drop trooper where the AD pack is actually the bot.
Its ARM value is "1".
Thanks! To clarify, is that considered light, medium, or heavy armor? It has elements that design flourishes that resemble heavy armor so I was curious as that number value doesn't indicate that.
Armor is weird for Infinity. The trooper you're asking about is considered "Light Infantry", but appears a bit heavier than the ARM value because it has a decent BTS value and is also an AD trooper.
Yaaay! So happy they nailed the pose on the daoying, its what I hoped they would look like from the concept art (ie. not wierdly lopsided like the sniper from the IA starter).
Bit disappointed that the echo bravo has a sensible parrot and not another mini animal bot.
Yadu are just solid, nothing spectacular, nothing wrong with them either.
Overall, a cheap month for me, but that's probably a good thing!
I'd say they're all hits except for Raoul, and the tactical rock portion of the Ech Bravo.
Khawarijs are all solid poses, same for Yadus. I love the fluff for Khawarijs, I'd probably field them if I ever got my Haqq up and running even though they aren't all that great in game. Yadus are much needed, love them as budget-HI. EB has an awful rock base that'll be difficult to cut out and won't fit my tech basing at all, otherwise it's a solid fig.
I'm mildly excited for that Daoying. Model is perfectly bland, a static pose that looks like it's deliberately static because it's in the middle of doing something, either hacking or calling in artillery or just passing out those sweet sweet LT lvl2 orders to NCOs. And besides, she'll be a camo token for 90% of games anyways. I'm glad they're releasing that profile so soon, that'll see a lot more use than the sniper rifle in my games.
Nothing crazy awesome this month that I must own nownownow, but Raoul is the only thing disappointing.
He has light armour. Heavy armour is generality ARM 3-6.
Thanks. Maybe it's just me but the visual cues I'm getting from the sculpt made me think that it was at least medium armor. Am I the only one who got that impression?
The armour is quite distinct from most lighter PanO troops, it's actually quite angular while retaining the "PanO chest plate" that characterises, well, every non-HI release from PanO of late.
That said, as Kan noted it's a LI trooper with BTS as well, so I'd expect it to be more "Kamau" than "Fusilier".
The armour is quite distinct from most lighter PanO troops, it's actually quite angular while retaining the "PanO chest plate" that characterises, well, every non-HI release from PanO of late. That said, as Kan noted it's a LI trooper with BTS as well, so I'd expect it to be more "Kamau" than "Fusilier".
For me it was the increase in the amount of rigid armor plate coverage compared with the Fusilier you mentioned; it's most evident on the legs/thighs. It's still consistent with the PanO style but the quantity surprised me. YMMV.
Armor is weird for Infinity. The trooper you're asking about is considered "Light Infantry", but appears a bit heavier than the ARM value because it has a decent BTS value and is also an AD trooper.
YMMV but it seems to me that the BTS (hacking resistance IIRC) and AD would typically result in a "lighter" looking armor loadout. Regardless, I won't belabor the point further.
Well, Regulars just feature the chest armour and boots, I take that to be the ARM 0 base.
Fusiliers have armoured sleeves, shoulders and vambraces, so ARM 1.
Croc Men lack the arm armour, but have more heavily covered legs, greaves and boots, so again ARM 1.
Kamau have both the Croc Men lower armour and similar levels of arm/sleeve armour to the Fusiliers, ARM 1 also they come with fully enclosed helmets, BTS 6 (allowing the armour to boost this).
Bagh Mari have additional thigh plates on their legs (ARM 2) but layer on top of fabric/canvas (BTS 0, despite the helmets).
Bolts have more advanced/detailed leg armour at similar levels to the Bagh Mari (ARM 2) but this seems to combine with their helmets to equate to BTS 6 (they could be an artefact of old design philosophy though).
It looks like armor, but it might just be padding similar to what a Motocross rider or hockey/football player would wear, he's just wearing it over a wetsuit instead of under a jersey.
Then again, it's only a few more plates than a Fusilier wears, some of that blue is actually part of the wetsuit
5 new or updated armies this year with Invivibles being the first. More are possible but not promised.
Another big plot change that will see at adepticon with a new Box and Book. This will be the first 1/3rd of the year. The book "unlocks the 5 armies" and ends the trilogy that started with Uprising.
Nothing on the new way to play outside Bostria saying it was a huge amount of work and they want to keep it sceret until the right time.
Shavastii are making a huge comback in 2019. Their the main villans of the 2019 story line with 3 moments. 1st new profiles in army, then miniature reviel, then a secret. Concept art is done expect an improvement along the side of morats in terms of designs. Not drastic concept changes, but improvements in design.
Tohaa will be the "eye of the storm". They're not the spotlight, that's the Shavastii, but there will be plenty of focus on them in the story.
There will be an Australian named character added the story at some point (it is an Australian con after all).
Taqeul Officer not coming in 2019.
Impersial Service is designed as a police force which inflences designs and equipment (anwer to how some units are designed and chosen)
CB is not planning a space battle game. The Arceon blockade is going to play a big role in an upcomming storyline.
No new CA aliens introduced in 2019 but could happen eventually.
reason for 1 wound HI in Invicible. "They are softer to perform more stuff in the game"
No fantasy game from CB yet. If we "do it it won't be a LoTR ripoff"
Balence is decided between playtesting (internal, external), ITS results, sales or adjustments to make a unit fit more in what a faction should be.
Tohaa started as "infinity elfs" and were influnced by Dark Elves from Hellboy 2 and aliens in mass effect.
CB is aware of the nested rules and complex stuff people have been talking about. They are looking into as they're aware that as a game gets expansions this becomes an issue.
MAF redesign has been well received as far as CB feels.
It's unsustainable for CB and retailers to deal with their SKU load. Discontining sectorials was the way they decided to deal with this. By annoucing the discounined skus months in advance it gives people and stores time to get what they want. They've been told by distributers to remove stuff so they did. Carlos did skirt the original question of if CB would sell out of print stuff occationaly in their webstore.
New units will continue for the 2018 armies.
No Marut resculpt in 2019.
Orc box in 2019
No highlander reculpts in 2019
Securty Chief Arslan (druze) and SWC bralwer box coming soon.
No fantasy game from CB yet. If we "do it it won't be a LoTR ripoff"
It's amazing how an industry is concerned about this aspect.
I see nothing wrong with this mentality. The market is saturated with LotR-like games, and even GW moved away from regimented warfare with their dropped LotR line and later Warhammer: Age of Fantasy SpaceMarines. We have Kings of War, old LotR, Game of Thrones, historicals, and many others that have shown less-than-stellar popularity in today's market. The fact that they're comparing it to LotR means CB will never make a regimented fantasy game. That being said, a more steampunk-y game like Warhammer Age of Fantasy SpaceMarines or Warmahordes may be a consideration as they're not LotR ripoffs. Then again, the dead Dystopian Legions and Wild West RomeoRage didn't fare too well in this crowded genre with Wyrd's The Other Side just coming in as well. I feel CB would rather release a game that allows mass combat with the miniatures we already have other a completely new IP.
Alpharius wrote: Any idea if the Ramah Task Force is one of the "2019 Five"?
It is confirmed by Bostria that RTF is one of the 5 new or redone sectorials coming in 2019.
These are confirmed or already out.
Invincible army
Shasvastii
Ramah Task Force
Next two are unknown but probably.
something Tohaa.
A new NA2 sectorial
Invincible Army is from the 3rd Offensive Book. Part of that Sectorial batch.
So far it would be Shaz and Rahmah. He said there will be a new NA2 army also.
No fantasy game from CB yet. If we "do it it won't be a LoTR ripoff"
It's amazing how an industry is concerned about this aspect.
I see nothing wrong with this mentality. The market is saturated with LotR-like games, and even GW moved away from regimented warfare with their dropped LotR line and later Warhammer: Age of Fantasy SpaceMarines. We have Kings of War, old LotR, Game of Thrones, historicals, and many others that have shown less-than-stellar popularity in today's market. The fact that they're comparing it to LotR means CB will never make a regimented fantasy game. That being said, a more steampunk-y game like Warhammer Age of Fantasy SpaceMarines or Warmahordes may be a consideration as they're not LotR ripoffs. Then again, the dead Dystopian Legions and Wild West RomeoRage didn't fare too well in this crowded genre with Wyrd's The Other Side just coming in as well. I feel CB would rather release a game that allows mass combat with the miniatures we already have other a completely new IP.
I'm pretty sure he was referencing setting and not gameplay. They don't want to make a generic fantasy world.
Wow, I may need to get Perseus just to paint for fun. What a great pose.
I’m really happy to see Invincible Army expand, but it’s a little odd seeing so much “sameness” between the models... really hard to tell them apart because their differences are subtle. But I know consistency is a virtue too, so I’m not disappointed, just having a hard time telling some of them apart.
Alpharius wrote: Any idea if the Ramah Task Force is one of the "2019 Five"?
It is confirmed by Bostria that RTF is one of the 5 new or redone sectorials coming in 2019.
These are confirmed or already out.
Invincible army
Shasvastii
Ramah Task Force
Next two are unknown but probably.
something Tohaa.
A new NA2 sectorial
Invincible Army is from the 3rd Offensive Book. Part of that Sectorial batch.
So far it would be Shaz and Rahmah. He said there will be a new NA2 army also.
Last year CB realeased 5 armies, JSA, Tunguska, OSS, Tak and Varuna.
Invincible Army counts as 2019 release.
Look at the release timeline, blue N in january is IA sectorial. Also I'm pretty sure Bostria confirmed this.
They could change things up and do the 2 player earlier then gencon but I doubt that will be it and Carlos talking so much about Shasvastii being the main villains I can't see them waiting till August to release. There's supposed to be an infinity week before the re-release of the bugs so if that's in march we know what will be out at Adepticon.
Even CB gets apparently bored occasionally with the pairing of rage fists and tactical boxes/rocks and need to throw in a "come at me, bro!" pose once in a while to mix things up.
plastictrees wrote: This render doesn't show it but he will be carrying at least 8 grocery bags in his right hand.
One shot, one kill, one trip from the car.
Alpharius wrote: Where will the Ramah Task force stuff fit in on that "N" Calendar Timeline?
My bet is that RTF gets released in March at Adepticon, when they should have a book out, and in april gets a couple minis to expand the range (they do not need much to be a fully fledged sectorial), and then later in the year, at GenCon, they do a box for Tohaa X Shavastii, since they have shown nothing for them yet. That could tie in with the big black N in the end of the year, I suppose.
Koni just confirmed on official forums that 5 new armies from now on. IA is a january release but it doesn't count for these 5 new armies.
I was wrong.
So RTF and Shasvastii are confirmed.
3 unknown to go.
Dysartes wrote: That Perseus sculpt is pretty cool - any idea which factions he works for?
Alpharius wrote: Where will the Ramah Task force stuff fit in on that "N" Calendar Timeline?
My bet is that RTF gets released in March at Adepticon, when they should have a book out, and in april gets a couple minis to expand the range (they do not need much to be a fully fledged sectorial), and then later in the year, at GenCon, they do a box for Tohaa X Shavastii, since they have shown nothing for them yet. That could tie in with the big black N in the end of the year, I suppose.
They haven't been quite that quick to flesh things out. Still waiting on quite a few things from Uprising after all. :(
Modock wrote: Koni just confirmed on official forums that 5 new armies from now on. IA is a january release but it doesn't count for these 5 new armies.
I was wrong.
So RTF and Shasvastii are confirmed.
3 unknown to go.
Dysartes wrote: That Perseus sculpt is pretty cool - any idea which factions he works for?
Generic Nomads and Tunguska.
He also said to expect a mercenary army, and that the 5 armies will be a mix of new Sectorials and revamping old Sectorials.
No fantasy game from CB yet. If we "do it it won't be a LoTR ripoff"
It's amazing how an industry is concerned about this aspect.
LotR is very much an Anglo-Saxon thing that has spread. Spaniards will have their own ideas about fantasy, based upon Spanish culture. Or so I hope, if CB does make a fantasy game. I've enjoyed Professor Tolkien's work -- The Hobbit anyway-- but I do not like that it has come to dominate, and push out all other sorts of fantasy. A not LotR fantasy would be welcomed change, IMO.
No fantasy game from CB yet. If we "do it it won't be a LoTR ripoff"
It's amazing how an industry is concerned about this aspect.
LotR is very much an Anglo-Saxon thing that has spread. Spaniards will have their own ideas about fantasy, based upon Spanish culture. Or so I hope, if CB does make a fantasy game. I've enjoyed Professor Tolkien's work -- The Hobbit anyway-- but I do not like that it has come to dominate, and push out all other sorts of fantasy. A not LotR fantasy would be welcomed change, IMO.
I have always found it fascinating how Fantasy is dominated by the works of one man - Tolkien - while Sci-Fi remains free from any such dominance (other than a strong bias towards humanoid aliens). It would be weird to see Klingons or the Chiss show up in Infinity, where as no one bats an eye when Elves and Orcs show up in a fantasy game.
Modock wrote: Koni just confirmed on official forums that 5 new armies from now on. IA is a january release but it doesn't count for these 5 new armies.
I was wrong.
So RTF and Shasvastii are confirmed.
3 unknown to go.
Let the wild speculation begin!
I say White Banner and Svarlerhemiheimehime.
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Modock wrote: Koni just confirmed on official forums that 5 new armies from now on. IA is a january release but it doesn't count for these 5 new armies.
I was wrong.
Modock wrote: Koni just confirmed on official forums that 5 new armies from now on. IA is a january release but it doesn't count for these 5 new armies.
I was wrong.
So RTF and Shasvastii are confirmed.
3 unknown to go.
Let the wild speculation begin!
I say White Banner and Svarlerhemiheimehime.
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Modock wrote: Koni just confirmed on official forums that 5 new armies from now on. IA is a january release but it doesn't count for these 5 new armies.
I was wrong.
Red_Five wrote: I have always found it fascinating how Fantasy is dominated by the works of one man - Tolkien - while Sci-Fi remains free from any such dominance (other than a strong bias towards humanoid aliens). It would be weird to see Klingons or the Chiss show up in Infinity, where as no one bats an eye when Elves and Orcs show up in a fantasy game.
There are Klingons in Infinity. We call them Morats.
It is a sadness that Tolkien's works have dominated pop culture and drowned out thousands of years of folk-lore and many, many other good fantasy stories. In folk-lore, Elves have been around for a long time, as have goblins. Orcs, IIRC, were another word for goblin, in Tolkien's "legendarium", at least initially.
To the Topic: Shasvastii would be the revamped sectorial, Ramah one of the 4 remaining, which leaves 3... And there are the White Banner and Svalarheim sectorials, releasing them together would be thematic. The Kaplans can be a N2A sectorial. I doubt the khanate or the Tohaa sectorials are coming anytime soon.
Modock wrote: Koni just confirmed on official forums that 5 new armies from now on. IA is a january release but it doesn't count for these 5 new armies. I was wrong.
So RTF and Shasvastii are confirmed.
3 unknown to go.
Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought Carlos's phrasing made it sound like IA was one of the 5 as he was speaking a little faster I think in this video then in past ones and some stuff was harder to follow.
With Shavastii being a known and one N2 being promised that's 2. Then a new Tohaa was stated last year coming out this year, but not a given, seams like RTF is the same. Though I'd give more weight to Tohaa being one of the 5 since they were talked up quite a bit in the video.
What armies are people expected to get an update? Maybe Neoterra? It's probably the next PanO faction to get dropped so why not give it a polish like they did SAA before Svalarheima comes out.
For refrence here's the stats on armies used since ITS Season 9 started in 2018 from the article a week or so ago
PanO's in a weird spot...there's two subfactions now that could effectively be split off as NA2s(Neoterra and Military Orders both)--and Svalarheim is going to have some crossover with MO.
They'd kinda have to rewrite the fluff of MO to make them NA2. They're pretty integral to PanO. Given that the Church has very little presence in any of the other nations and is itself one of the major political factions of PanO itself.
Carlos did say the next book would have an uprising level change for the setting. MO could break off to NA2. While it would probably be one that is easily justifiable to be NA2 it would rather lame to have the same thing a second year in a row.
I think Corregidor are on borrowed time, Neoterra I don’t know you would think that each faction would have one core sectorial that was safe but with CB who knows.
There “Business” decisions are sometimes a little strange to say the least.
I mean sometimes it would not surprise me to find out that a faction was removed due to Carlos losing a game against them heavily.
It's strictly business... their business decisions aren't strange they don't have the space in store to keep all the SKUs and it keeps production costs down which keeps the price of these models down a lot of people are very selfish a lot of people have a real hot mouth but they don't have any actual business knowledge to back the things they say and that's the funniest thing I find about some of these comments here when they refer to CB's business decisions....
Lot of armchair businessmen in here that probably have never ran a business in their life... silliness in its purest form
5deadly wrote: It's strictly business... their business decisions aren't strange they don't have the space in store to keep all the SKUs
They don't have a storefront. Corvus Belli has a webstore and that's their only real direct connection to customers outside of conventions where they are in attendance.
and it keeps production costs down which keeps the price of these models down a lot of people are very selfish a lot of people have a real hot mouth but they don't have any actual business knowledge to back the things they say and that's the funniest thing I find about some of these comments here when they refer to CB's business decisions....
Lot of armchair businessmen in here that probably have never ran a business in their life... silliness in its purest form
It's always silly when people assume that you need to be some kind of business veteran to have any insights as to things that could be done better or what might be more customer friendly.
Many of the more vocal people concerning CB's business practices? They've worked for independent hobby shops or were the ones that the people who do the ordering look to for guidance when it comes to what they should/shouldn't have as "regular stock" and what they should be prepared to order for customers in a pinch.
They're also the people who introduce players to the game and keep the communities going(or try to).
I can't keep people interested if the releases aren't consumer friendly or if they buy in and then a month or two later the stuff they just bought was "removed from sale"(which to most reasonable people seems to be the company ceasing to support the product in question, not "retiring it temporarily").
5deadly wrote: It's strictly business... their business decisions aren't strange they don't have the space in store to keep all the SKUs and it keeps production costs down which keeps the price of these models down a lot of people are very selfish a lot of people have a real hot mouth but they don't have any actual business knowledge to back the things they say and that's the funniest thing I find about some of these comments here when they refer to CB's business decisions....
Lot of armchair businessmen in here that probably have never ran a business in their life... silliness in its purest form
Hi my names Sean I was a retail store manager for around 10 years for a national chain in the Uk my individual store had more staff than The whole of CB, we carried around 20000 individual skus in store and had around 300000 skus on system that we could order in. The store was fairly large by high street standards but by no means huge, at any given time I could find a individual SKU know how many we had in inventory and where they happened to be and how many we had sold and would need to restock.
I have now spent 10 years as a technical support analyst for a bank which is a fancy way of saying I process data and forecast trends keeping it simple.
Unless CB are still ran out of a garage or a spare bedroom then the stuff they spout about SKUs is pretty funny unless they are still using paper ledgers. As for stores don’t like excessive SKU’s then there is an easy solution to that sell boxes with whole units in rather than spreading them over a couple of boxes and then blisters as well(they won’tbecause that would cut into there profits more than they would like) CB are ran in a pretty archaic fashion and seem to have one aim maximum profit from minimum effort to the point that they are probably stifling there growth and limiting there success.
I like infinity and love the setting but the game seems to survive perpetually on the edge of becoming more successful mostly due to CB themselves.
5deadly wrote: It's strictly business... their business decisions aren't strange they don't have the space in store to keep all the SKUs and it keeps production costs down which keeps the price of these models down a lot of people are very selfish a lot of people have a real hot mouth but they don't have any actual business knowledge to back the things they say and that's the funniest thing I find about some of these comments here when they refer to CB's business decisions....
Lot of armchair businessmen in here that probably have never ran a business in their life... silliness in its purest form
Hi my names Sean I was a retail store manager for around 10 years for a national chain in the Uk my individual store had more staff than The whole of CB, we carried around 20000 individual skus in store and had around 300000 skus on system that we could order in. The store was fairly large by high street standards but by no means huge, at any given time I could find a individual SKU know how many we had in inventory and where they happened to be and how many we had sold and would need to restock.
I have now spent 10 years as a technical support analyst for a bank which is a fancy way of saying I process data and forecast trends keeping it simple.
Unless CB are still ran out of a garage or a spare bedroom then the stuff they spout about SKUs is pretty funny unless they are still using paper ledgers. As for stores don’t like excessive SKU’s then there is an easy solution to that sell boxes with whole units in rather than spreading them over a couple of boxes and then blisters as well(they won’tbecause that would cut into there profits more than they would like) CB are ran in a pretty archaic fashion and seem to have one aim maximum profit from minimum effort to the point that they are probably stifling there growth and limiting there success.
I like infinity and love the setting but the game seems to survive perpetually on the edge of becoming more successful mostly due to CB themselves.
Not very many would disagree with this.
It's understandable for CB to have limited skus in distribution but kind of odd that they don't offer direct order for discontinued stuff even if they do a kind of cast on demand type of thing (cast up orders at the end of the month). The question was even read in their own video and he didn't answer it.
5deadly wrote: It's strictly business... their business decisions aren't strange they don't have the space in store to keep all the SKUs and it keeps production costs down which keeps the price of these models down a lot of people are very selfish a lot of people have a real hot mouth but they don't have any actual business knowledge to back the things they say and that's the funniest thing I find about some of these comments here when they refer to CB's business decisions....
Lot of armchair businessmen in here that probably have never ran a business in their life... silliness in its purest form
Hi my names Sean I was a retail store manager for around 10 years for a national chain in the Uk my individual store had more staff than The whole of CB, we carried around 20000 individual skus in store and had around 300000 skus on system that we could order in. The store was fairly large by high street standards but by no means huge, at any given time I could find a individual SKU know how many we had in inventory and where they happened to be and how many we had sold and would need to restock.
I have now spent 10 years as a technical support analyst for a bank which is a fancy way of saying I process data and forecast trends keeping it simple.
Unless CB are still ran out of a garage or a spare bedroom then the stuff they spout about SKUs is pretty funny unless they are still using paper ledgers. As for stores don’t like excessive SKU’s then there is an easy solution to that sell boxes with whole units in rather than spreading them over a couple of boxes and then blisters as well(they won’tbecause that would cut into there profits more than they would like) CB are ran in a pretty archaic fashion and seem to have one aim maximum profit from minimum effort to the point that they are probably stifling there growth and limiting there success.
I like infinity and love the setting but the game seems to survive perpetually on the edge of becoming more successful mostly due to CB themselves.
Not very many would disagree with this.
It's understandable for CB to have limited skus in distribution but kind of odd that they don't offer direct order for discontinued stuff even if they do a kind of cast on demand type of thing (cast up orders at the end of the month). The question was even read in their own video and he didn't answer it.
I don’t really mind if any sectorials are discontinued.
As long as they remain valid for normal play, who cares? You can still get all these SKUs online.
While longtime players certainly have a soft spot for old models, I don't think its a huge concern as long as CB keeps doing a great job creating new entry points for the series. Most of the growth I've seen from the series since N3 has very much been rooted in products that are easy to get started with.
LunarSol wrote: While longtime players certainly have a soft spot for old models, I don't think its a huge concern as long as CB keeps doing a great job creating new entry points for the series. Most of the growth I've seen from the series since N3 has very much been rooted in products that are easy to get started with.
We're having very different experiences then, because I'm seeing LESS interest not more thanks to their constant fumbling and the continued refusal to actually let unit boxes be unit boxes.
Well I shop for corvus belli at local gaming stores and they don't have a huge allotment of shelf space in any gaming store I've ever seen.... so cutting down there SKU make sense to me.. you can run the biggest store on West Coast gaming all you want you know you could have the biggest store for gaming brick-and-mortar style in the entire world... if each store only has X amount of space to carry your product you need to make space so that that store with its -limited- Infinity space can carry New Products...
You can try to sound as smart as you want man, but I understand why they do it because I've never seen a store with a wall full of infinity myself personally. If one of you have seen a store with a wall full of Infinity let me know... as far as I can see corvus belli has done this to be able to keep new items in stock... I've never seen a store with a space dedicated to Infinity anywhere near Games Workshop I've seen stores with more space dedicated to Reaper Miniatures then Infinity and that's what I don't understand if they don't want to become mega-successful for whatever their interpersonal reasons are that's on them.
You can't sit here and tell me and I won't let you try to sit here and tell me that they can keep piling new products into stores that don't have shelf space for them I know that to be true and after you read this you will too. Your store is not going to make any more space for Infinity because Infinity doesn't sell like Games Workshop.. CB apparently doesn't want to make that jump from being a smaller gaming company to being a big Global thing like Games Workshop and maybe that keeps them from going under which keeps Infinity on my gaming table...
You can put on Smarty Pants dance hat and try to retort to what I said but at the end of the day brick-and-mortar stores don't have the space for every single SKU...
I was watching JSA Army boxes sit weirdly on top of shelves because there's just not enough shelf space in my local gaming store for their product.
I don't know what you're talking about but that's what I'm talking about...
If you have a retort that please do.... If doing this is what keeps them in profits and able to meet new models every single month more power to them most of you guys won't even walk into a game store and Order Miniatures I watch the way people Hawk for discounts I walk into the store and pay for my Miniatures because that's where I play if I don't go into the store and buy models there.. I won't have a place to go play....
Go ahead comment back on that... I'd really like to see somebody say something smart they could actually counter what I just said
points
* it's obvious they don't want to grow any bigger than they already are for their own personal reasons (we've been over that in this rumor discussion before) even though we're fans we all know that they're not the biggest game company in the world that are very small company and they want to keep it that way
* because they aren't a huge company like Games Workshop they don't have the Shelf space inside of the retail stores to be able to contain all of the SKU the corvus belli could possibly have...
So are you guys who just commented and quoted me I would really like to see your counter argument for that.. Not being them not growing in size or Blablabla about your want for Box sets... the FACT that CB has very little space in Brick and Mortar Stores...
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Kanluwen... for a very active FanBoy...you sure are one SALTY dude...
It feels kind of strange to artificially restrict each faction to just 50 SKUs, especially with how many blisters Corvus Belli sells but it makes sense if they are going to slowly eliminate old blisters and repackage them into boxes. Removing 4 or 5 SKUs and replacing them with 1 makes a lot of sense. The boxes also work better for most stores when it comes to storage space and showcasing product (I mean how many times do people walk up to a wall of Reaper minis and just look at the minis that are facing outward, never looking at the ones behind the front-facing ones?).
PsychoticStorm wrote: It is an assumption that sectorials will not be rotated back into circulation, an assumption stated as false from the beginning.
A nice promise, but nothing that players can count on. No timeline given either.
CB is not the healthiest of miniature companies, given that they are constantly struggling with some basic business sense and have bad production priorities. Thus players can’t really accept their word that it will happen. We don’t know if CB will remain around to keep this promise or that if they do stick around that they will keep the promise. We wouldn’t trust GW, a huge company that isn’t going anywhere, to keep a promise like this. Why would we trust CB?
If a date was given for a limited production run of discontinued miniatures it might not be as much of an issue, but a vague “someday” is worth nothing.
CB makes a great game and better miniatures, but they are crap at the business side of it and at listening to their customers. Especially when the reasons they give are clearly issues of their own making and not really obstacles.
Red_Five wrote: It feels kind of strange to artificially restrict each faction to just 50 SKUs, especially with how many blisters Corvus Belli sells but it makes sense if they are going to slowly eliminate old blisters and repackage them into boxes. Removing 4 or 5 SKUs and replacing them with 1 makes a lot of sense. The boxes also work better for most stores when it comes to storage space and showcasing product (I mean how many times do people walk up to a wall of Reaper minis and just look at the minis that are facing outward, never looking at the ones behind the front-facing ones?).
We're not actually seeing a large amount of blisters->boxes though. Not before the damage is actually being done.
The Corregidor Bandits, for example, could have been a double model blister release from the outset. The new Echo-Bravo? That's one of four distinctive profiles(there's no repeats!). Same goes for the Zulu-Cobra Hacker in February/March and the Jammer that got released after the VIRD box or the Kamau Hacker and any future Kamau models.
There's ways for them to prevent SKU bloat from being an issue. It has been brought up to them so many times. But they NEED to keep up the "drip" method of releases, because effectively they're a CCG methodology of a game.
I just find it funny that people expect every company to be like the biggest and not every company can be like the biggest whether it's Financial or Regional tax laws or whatever...
I'm not arguing about them growing I'm not arguing about what kind of products they make or how they make them I'll continue to buy the products I like and not buy the products I don't.
I'm strictly talking about SKU and brick-and-mortar store shelf space and at the end of the day that's what this is actually all about if you want Veruna in Store... something else has to move off the shelf like I said I walked into a store they had a very very small amount and this store is a huge huge local gaming store. And they just don't have the space they didn't have space for JSA Army boxes...they're sitting on top of shelves in a funny way that it's not flattering to the product and it's not even good for the boxes. The boxes were beat up because they can't sell the five-year-old Combined Army models did they still have in stock....
That's all I'm trying to say...
you want Invincible Army inside your local retailer
you want Veruna inside your local retailer
You want the new Shasvastii Army coming soon inside your local retailer...
You got to make some room now I know some of you don't care because you only order online because you go for maximum discount and I understand that 100%
But for guys like me who want to support our local brick-and-mortar stores who actually go out and support our local brick-and-mortar stores I want new products in the store so that new players see the new stuff and buy it hence Infinity community grows everything else is just a bunch of complaining people blah blah blah complain complain complain because what they don't meet the level of retail The Games Workshop does...
I'm a 43 year old man Games Workshop has been making stuff that's been reaching me since I was 10 years old..
That's a lot of time to build up a huge fan base a huge presence in local stores...
I think a lot of people expect more out of CB can give them..
If you actually went into a brick and mortar store every once in a while you would see how much space Corvus has inside these stores..
Now I'm dying to see all the "quoters" and their retort for this...
Kanluwen wrote: There's ways for them to prevent SKU bloat from being an issue. It has been brought up to them so many times. But they NEED to keep up the "drip" method of releases, because effectively they're a CCG methodology of a game.
I'm pretty much on your side of the argument, but the above is pretty much the business model of everyone in the hobby industry not GW. GW releases something in a big box with a big price, recoups their development cost then spins it out by itself. And even they are doing quite a bit of SKU cleaning...because they have new models coming out every month to keep interest in their properties.
A good healthy game would probably be the death of the company producing it. This Pokemon strategy of release something new every month (which even CCGs don't do) is what keeps the company and therefore the game alive. Is that an excuse for CB to sell me a starter, two expansion boxes and three blisters instead of a proper starter and two unit box--no. CB just doesn't seem to understand they can ship the same amount of metal but not string me along or more SKUs because one unit is broken into 3 boxes and a blister.
Kanluwen wrote: There's ways for them to prevent SKU bloat from being an issue. It has been brought up to them so many times. But they NEED to keep up the "drip" method of releases, because effectively they're a CCG methodology of a game.
I'm pretty much on your side of the argument, but the above is pretty much the business model of everyone in the hobby industry not GW. GW releases something in a big box with a big price, recoups their development cost then spins it out by itself. And even they are doing quite a bit of SKU cleaning...because they have new models coming out every month to keep interest in their properties.
Minor point: their version of "SKU cleaning" is spinning stuff back to Direct Only---LCTB is becoming a bit of a misnomer as the Twitch stream a few weeks ago had them saying that they are beginning to use LCTB to also mark low stock items. Which is weird...but whatever, I guess.
A good healthy game would probably be the death of the company producing it. This Pokemon strategy of release something new every month (which even CCGs don't do) is what keeps the company and therefore the game alive. Is that an excuse for CB to sell me a starter, two expansion boxes and three blisters instead of a proper starter and two unit box--no. CB just doesn't seem to understand they can ship the same amount of metal but not string me along or more SKUs because one unit is broken into 3 boxes and a blister.
The saddest part is that quite a few people have tried to make it clear to them that they would buy multiple boxes if we saw two arm sets in a box or things of that nature.
Say but will is always the question. I know a lot of people aren't super happy about the SWAST given the price hike between it and the single model HMG version coupled with the alt arm not really being an in demand profile. I think its easy to underestimate the difference between 1 model for $12 and 2 for $20. One of them is a better deal, but the former is in impulse buy territory. Particularly since outside of fireteams most units have a preferred loadout, its often not a great deal for the consumer for models to be packaged together.
LunarSol wrote: Say but will is always the question. I know a lot of people aren't super happy about the SWAST given the price hike between it and the single model HMG version coupled with the alt arm not really being an in demand profile. I think its easy to underestimate the difference between 1 model for $12 and 2 for $20. One of them is a better deal, but the former is in impulse buy territory. Particularly since outside of fireteams most units have a preferred loadout, its often not a great deal for the consumer for models to be packaged together.
I bolded the most important part there:
The SWAST isn't "just" an issue because it was more expensive...it's also because of the fact that it is NOT what you're under the impression it is.
It's a 4 model boxed set that builds:
A) Taskmaster with Red Fury OR Heavy Rocket Launcher
B) Tinbot A
C) 2x Crazy Koalas
The price difference is significant and a large chunk of it is not from the HRL arm as some like to insinuate but rather from the Tinbot and Crazy Koalas shoveled in.
Oh, I know you pay for the Koalas and tinbot. My point is just that while people say they'd prefer to have the options, they might not actually be willing to pay for it. Even stuff like going $12 to $16 is the kind of thing people tend to balk over.
LunarSol wrote: Oh, I know you pay for the Koalas and tinbot. My point is just that while people say they'd prefer to have the options, they might not actually be willing to pay for it. Even stuff like going $12 to $16 is the kind of thing people tend to balk over.
The problem is that the example you're giving is loaded with an issue that people were already frustrated over: Tinbots taking the place of actual models in boxed set "counts" and the prices of boxed sets not reflecting the presence of the Tinbot instead of a trooper.
People don't actually balk as much as you seem to think, provided there is demonstrable proof of the price raise reflecting an increase in quality or value.
I'd pay for tinbots, fast pandas, koalas in their own blisters (or a set of 2 of each) as I like the 3d ness they add to the table. But I agree they should not be in most box sets if any, as really, it would be like including metal mines and repeters in other boxes. Let people that want to buy then buy them, if not just include them as the cardboard tokens on the packaging.
I do think though Lunarsol has a good point about having to have some low cost single blisters. That's a good way to get people buying figures to paint and get into the game but that can be solved by just having more named uniques then Infinity has then splitting up stuff into 1 box and a bunch of blisters.
I've kind of found the opposite. When it comes to new players getting into the game, the big box sets have really been where the game shines in my area. A lot of people honestly don't get too far past the pre-built 300 point starter, but they play that one army to death. From there, they seem to be happier buying random single figures that represent whatever new profile they want to add to the army. The SWC box sets are an annoyance as something where they feel like they're buying 4 models for the 1 one actually want to play. Those things really only shine when someone is playing a Sectorial and are literally looking to buy the fireteam as a single entity. Augmenting the prebuilt army with small purchases has gone over a lot better than free building based off a smaller starter. New players seem to go for the bigger bundles, but once people have played for a while they seem to migrate to the smaller singles.
LunarSol wrote: I've kind of found the opposite. When it comes to new players getting into the game, the big box sets have really been where the game shines in my area. A lot of people honestly don't get too far past the pre-built 300 point starter, but they play that one army to death. From there, they seem to be happier buying random single figures that represent whatever new profile they want to add to the army. The SWC box sets are an annoyance as something where they feel like they're buying 4 models for the 1 one actually want to play. Those things really only shine when someone is playing a Sectorial and are literally looking to buy the fireteam as a single entity. Augmenting the prebuilt army with small purchases has gone over a lot better than free building based off a smaller starter. New players seem to go for the bigger bundles, but once people have played for a while they seem to migrate to the smaller singles.
A large part of this is because you don't get any added value from these sets. I buy a Grunts box, I get 4 Grunts that can only ever be those specific Grunts.
Add a set of Rifle arms for everyone and/or gender-flipped arms for the SWC choices...all of a sudden, people might want more of these sets.
It's also worth noting that part of the "perception" is that Infinity really pushes the whole optimization concept from the outset from a decent chunk of the community. I rarely see "new" players that genuinely are new to gaming in general and aren't looking for an optimized list from the beginning.
Monkeysloth wrote:I do think though Lunarsol has a good point about having to have some low cost single blisters. That's a good way to get people buying figures to paint and get into the game but that can be solved by just having more named uniques then Infinity has then splitting up stuff into 1 box and a bunch of blisters.
This is supposedly what the disastrous "Bootleg" line was going to be about: "unique painting and modeling opportunities".
I should also add that while I left it out, we did actually see a Repeater added to a model. The Securitate with Boarding Shotgun is specifically the Repeater loadout as she has a piece on her back that no other Securitate has.
Hopefully I'll eventually get my damn Securitate box but it's in the pictures if you want to check.
If all you ever want to do is buy the specific models you want for one specific list, then you would never, ever want box sets since they force you to buy models you do not want.
However, blisters with individuals models are more difficult for stores to display and more difficult for stores and warehouses to store. Additionally, individual blisters are more difficult to manage on the warehousing side (since there are so many of them and they are all so small). Also, the less popular blisters often get stuck sitting store shelves for years.
So there will always be a battle between what is best for the customer and what is best for the company, the distributor and the stores.
I do think including more weapon options in the boxes would definitely make them more popular with the competitive "I only buy models I need" crowd.
I find a big part of it just a result of there not really being models for every option. The game develops a proxy culture pretty quick and most people are perfectly happy for their one model to represent whichever weapon. This seems particularly true when it comes to Combi Rifles and Boarding Shotguns, but it remains true for stuff like HMG/Spitfire/Red Fury/etc.
I've considered for some time if I'd prefer "Fireteam/Regiment" boxes that had either 3 models with alternate arms for each, for a similar price to the current SWC boxes, or 4 models with alternate arms for ~15-20% cost increase. I honestly wouldn't mind either.
Much as I'd also like to see a "Support/Deployables" box with Koalas, Pandas, tinbots etc. 1 per faction would be IMO overkill and anything other than that would annoy people too much. Direct sales of things like Drop Bears, Fast Pandas would be welcome.
There isn't anything wrong with single model blisters. But they should have arm options for those figures.
At the very least, you should have a box set with 4 models, each of which has at least 2 arm options. And then if desired you could sell 1, or maybe all, of the models in that box set individually with the same arm options. So you might have 5 SKUs, but it would really only be 4 different models from a production standpoint. That would ease production burdens.
For people who only want 1 specific model for a specific list, there are people out who buy box sets and sell the parts individually. Or they themselves could do that. Buy the box set and sell the rest. But most players will buy the whole box set.
You don't even need 2 sets of arms per model, most 4-man boxes are 2 of the same bodies doubled-up with different arms for each. The Grunts box as mentioned is the same body for the HMG & heavy flamethrower, and the sniperrifle & rifle+LGL fit on the same female body. Just include a 3rd weapon arm set for each body type with a basic combirifle (or rifle, in the case of Grunts) and for very little extra metal you have the option of making up to 2 of them into basic goobers
Infinity the Game's Facebook Page wrote:
With the release of the “Warcor Worldwide FAQ” and the events that occurred in its aftermath, Corvus Belli feels the need to make the following statement:
● We have always supported and will continue to to support fan initiatives that improve the game - especially if they come from our Warcors, which we view as key pieces in our international recruitment strategy for Infinity and Aristeia! We love the passion within our community, and we think that each and every warcor helps us grow. That’s why we agreed to allow the -internally called- “Warcor Worldwide FAQ” to be written by a group of Warcors, despite the fact that it was not going to be an official Corvus Belli document. It was always our intention to carefully read the document once it was completed.
● We firmly reject any sort of disrespect in ANY of our official channels, no matter where or whom it comes from. Everyone has an opinion and a right to be heard, but we will not tolerate last weekend’s disrespectful behaviour. The warcors responsible for such actions will immediately be removed from the Warcor program.
● Once we reviewed the document, the “Warcor Worldwide FAQ” - we found it did not meet the standard that we as a company strive to produce. We want to be very clear that Corvus Belli does not recognize the document. It is an unofficial text that can mislead players. It also is not endorsed by the entire warcor community, and it contains a great deal of incorrect information and misinterpretations of the rules.
We hope that these events have a silver lining, and we can learn from them in the future.
Thank you for your time.
Heh...what a wild weekend it was!
TLDR version: on the official forum, a document was posted on Friday(after CB closed office hours) that was effectively houserulings from some WarCors. It kinda blew up in a big nonsense storm and was a bad time in general.
Only reason I post this quote is so that people can be aware of the circumstances or what happened.
Infinity the Game's Facebook Page wrote:
With the release of the “Warcor Worldwide FAQ” and the events that occurred in its aftermath, Corvus Belli feels the need to make the following statement:
● We have always supported and will continue to to support fan initiatives that improve the game - especially if they come from our Warcors, which we view as key pieces in our international recruitment strategy for Infinity and Aristeia! We love the passion within our community, and we think that each and every warcor helps us grow. That’s why we agreed to allow the -internally called- “Warcor Worldwide FAQ” to be written by a group of Warcors, despite the fact that it was not going to be an official Corvus Belli document. It was always our intention to carefully read the document once it was completed.
● We firmly reject any sort of disrespect in ANY of our official channels, no matter where or whom it comes from. Everyone has an opinion and a right to be heard, but we will not tolerate last weekend’s disrespectful behaviour. The warcors responsible for such actions will immediately be removed from the Warcor program.
● Once we reviewed the document, the “Warcor Worldwide FAQ” - we found it did not meet the standard that we as a company strive to produce. We want to be very clear that Corvus Belli does not recognize the document. It is an unofficial text that can mislead players. It also is not endorsed by the entire warcor community, and it contains a great deal of incorrect information and misinterpretations of the rules.
We hope that these events have a silver lining, and we can learn from them in the future.
Thank you for your time.
Heh...what a wild weekend it was!
TLDR version: on the official forum, a document was posted on Friday(after CB closed office hours) that was effectively houserulings from some WarCors. It kinda blew up in a big nonsense storm and was a bad time in general.
Only reason I post this quote is so that people can be aware of the circumstances or what happened.
It was a huge poop show. I saw a lot of people freaking out thinking the document was official.
To be fair:
It was presented in a very official manner by a WarCor on Friday--again, after business hours for CB so nobody was 'there' to refute it or whatnots.
There was a lot of hubbub over specifically how the thread was titled at the start but since it's all been deleted/locked away...I can't really link to it for anyone who wants to see it.
LunarSol wrote: Once again, it appears my life is improved by not paying attention to the internet for a few days.
QFT.
I saw the beginnings of it. The Official forum's 'usual suspects' got up to their usual antics.
Will it compel CB to update the FAQ and errata more often, or even answer rules queries on the forums? You'll only need 1 guess to get the correct answer.
Back to N&R: Adepticon is at the end of March, so if there is something interesting coming, we should see an announcement-teaser on 18 February? I'm still guessing new book with updated campaign and SpecOp rules. New book will have Ramah and who knows what other sectorial. Shasvastii?
I did post a reminder about what is criticism and what is complaint. Too many folks confuse the two things. The post no longer exists. Meh.
And there is one less WarCor now, I note. At least one less. What a debacle.
The old forum, read-only now, is going the way of Google+. Maybe in a few hours from now? If there is any content y'all want, now is the time to save it.
Starting Tohaa? Have you been taking the crazy pills again?
Priorities, hombre, priorities. We've got Ramah coming. That is the sectorial to start. We'll see Svalarheim soon enough. Tohaa are still "under development" last I heard.
Wait 'til we know more about what Adepticon brings. There may be some Tohaa news. Or just more trolling from Bostria.
Red Harvest wrote: Starting Tohaa? Have you been taking the crazy pills again?
Priorities, hombre, priorities. We've got Ramah coming. That is the sectorial to start. We'll see Svalarheim soon enough. Tohaa are still "under development" last I heard.
I know, right?
My two MOST wanted Sectorials - Ramah and PanO Svalarheima (Jotums dammit! Jotums!!!) - both due out this year?
And really, aren't Tohaa like the easiest thing to talk people out of anyway?
Rmah hold zero interest for me.... unless I can field a whole force of Azreals and paint them as Centurions.
But Svarleheima is a possibility. The Jotum is the only PanO TAG I don't own.
What drew me to tohaa was the comment from CanCon about how they were initially deigned to be basically space elves and were influenced by the elves from Hell Boy II
Automatically Appended Next Post: Totally Azreals:
.Mikes. wrote: . No let's get back to the business of talking me out of starting tohaa.
By buying them you'll be Angel sad as he hate's painting Tohaa ("so ugly" he says if you ask). If no one bought them he wouldn't have to paint them as they'd can the army.
Red Harvest wrote: Starting Tohaa? Have you been taking the crazy pills again?
Priorities, hombre, priorities. We've got Ramah coming. That is the sectorial to start. We'll see Svalarheim soon enough. Tohaa are still "under development" last I heard.
I know, right?
My two MOST wanted Sectorials - Ramah and PanO Svalarheima (Jotums dammit! Jotums!!!) - both due out this year?
And really, aren't Tohaa like the easiest thing to talk people out of anyway?
Svalarheima won’t be out this year, not with Varuna having just come out.
.Mikes. wrote: Meh, just playing, but I mean given extra options rather than redone - a la the HMG Seraph and Sir Tiksalot.
Taking a brief break from promoting my KS game to answer this one, as it was totally relevant to what I just did a few days ago...
When Life (army) gives you lemons (new profile), make Lemonade (a secular seraph?)
We can pretend it's an HMG, due to Commando Shooting.
Red Harvest wrote: I did post a reminder about what is criticism and what is complaint. Too many folks confuse the two things. The post no longer exists. Meh.
And there is one less WarCor now, I note. At least one less. What a debacle.
The old forum, read-only now, is going the way of Google+. Maybe in a few hours from now? If there is any content y'all want, now is the time to save it.
At least 5 less Warcors, all in Poland.
And I appreciate your distinction between criticism and negativity. It was a nice touch
Thanks. I post a lot of creative stuff -- terrain and painting -- so I am a bit particular about the distinction. I can, and do, take criticism, no matter the 'tone'. Complaints I just ignore. Not worth getting upset that someone has differing tastes.
.Mikes. wrote: I'd paint it as a fur vest. I'd also replace the gun with a chrome-tipped cane.
Dysartes wrote: I've seen two of you mention there being less WarCors - which I assume is the Infinity equivalent to the old PP Press Ganger program.
What reason was given for their departure?
there was a kerfuffle on the official forums detailed (mentioned further back in the thread) which led to Corvus Belli giving some of those involved the boot
Not bad...not sure we needed a "transformer" bike.
Infinity has transformers now? I have conflicting feelings about this. I will say it reminds me of Robotech cyclones; better looking though perhaps. Will you have one piece that's the rider on the bike, and then two pieces for the dismounted rider and transformed bike? That would be interesting.
Not bad...not sure we needed a "transformer" bike.
Infinity has transformers now? I have conflicting feelings about this. I will say it reminds me of Robotech cyclones; better looking though perhaps. Will you have one piece that's the rider on the bike, and then two pieces for the dismounted rider and transformed bike? That would be interesting.
It’s had a transformer for years now - the Su-Jian.
CB is supposed to post some of its seminar videos from Las Vegas Open (USA) and Furor Teutonicus (Germany) on its YT channel. I'm guessing Monday-ish and with minor reveals.
I'll wager that pre-order reveals for the next book begin Monday the 18th. Ramah Task Force best be in the Book. Just sayin'.
Well, whatever the kerfuffle was, it seems to have gotten Corvus Belli to (potentially) sort themselves out regarding how they'll handle FAQs - though I guess the proof for y'all will be if you get an update in mid-April.
Im curious which Warcors got the boot. I was a Warcor for years and there were some real gak stirrers in that group that needed to e removed. But that doesn't mean this was those people. I'm super curious. But if t isn't public knowledge maybe its better not to out those people> Has anyone who was asked to leave publicly identified themselves?
Not bad...not sure we needed a "transformer" bike.
Infinity has transformers now? I have conflicting feelings about this. I will say it reminds me of Robotech cyclones; better looking though perhaps. Will you have one piece that's the rider on the bike, and then two pieces for the dismounted rider and transformed bike? That would be interesting.
It’s had a transformer for years now - the Su-Jian.
Exaqueeze me? Baking powder? I do believe you meant Go Bots.
Not bad...not sure we needed a "transformer" bike.
Infinity has transformers now? I have conflicting feelings about this. I will say it reminds me of Robotech cyclones; better looking though perhaps. Will you have one piece that's the rider on the bike, and then two pieces for the dismounted rider and transformed bike? That would be interesting.
Yup, we've had the rules for what feels like almost a year now. Nomad model; part of the Tunguska release. The bike becomes a G:Sync'd remote when dismounted:
Red Harvest wrote: Su Jian is a cool mini. It lacks herp-a-derp wheels affixed to its shoulder blades.
FWIW, the wheel is off its back. It only looks like its on the shoulder due to perspective. The reverse image shows how it kind of hangs back like some kind of fin.
Meat and potatoes but I need them for starco so it doesn’t really matter. Glad I got the exclusive one last year for the msv2 haris. Also let me settle on a paint scheme I was happy with.
LunarSol wrote: Meat and potatoes but I need them for starco so it doesn’t really matter. Glad I got the exclusive one last year for the msv2 haris. Also let me settle on a paint scheme I was happy with.
Where was that available and, yes, of course, what's it look like?
LunarSol wrote: Meat and potatoes but I need them for starco so it doesn’t really matter. Glad I got the exclusive one last year for the msv2 haris. Also let me settle on a paint scheme I was happy with.
Where was that available and, yes, of course, what's it look like?
LunarSol wrote: Meat and potatoes but I need them for starco so it doesn’t really matter. Glad I got the exclusive one last year for the msv2 haris. Also let me settle on a paint scheme I was happy with.
Where was that available and, yes, of course, what's it look like?
As mentioned, it was the Uprising exclusive. Mine's below on the far left:
I didn't realise how many Haqq notes they had until seeing them painted.
I'll be picking them up...even though I could use the Govads I will likely never otherwise use to rep them.
Bostria presents a new Infinity video-seminar for the Satellite Tournament at Las Vegas Open (USA). The event took place on February 9th to 10th 2019.
Bostria specifically answered the question about weapon sprues. He stated that CB had made them in the past but they were not profitable, hence why they do not do them anymore.
Q&A (I ignored most of the non-meat and potatoes questions):
10/15mm infinity: Not this year. There are people inside the company that would want that though.
Model count: No plans to increase it past 20.
New Tags in 2019: Carlos has seen no new plans yet but the video was recorded in January so there's still plenty of time as the full year's worth of designs aren't 100% done yet.
will MAF and SEF get further support? Standard responce about making all armies popular but they can only support so many.
New fluff Sources coming? Fluff in rule books and manga.
When will we see an army with Feuerbach? Not in 2019
Are Bahram and Bakunin going OOP after next book? No
Will Bakunin get new fireteam options in next book? Bakunin not getting upgrades in new book as far as Carlos is aware.
Will we get new closed lists in 2019? No.
With Ramah coming out soon is Khanate sectorial in the works? Ramah hasn't come out yet, wait for that to come out before we talk about next army.
Will se see other background developments coming from player campaigns? Yes. As they've been doing for the past 2 years that will continue.
Is fortnite banned in yu jing? Yes. Yujing only plays Pubg.
More NA2 armies coming? Yes. Great news coming this year just wait.
weapon and equipment sprues? No. They did once and it didn't make money.
New Preview was the transforming bike, it was exclusive for LVO.
why? He did say in the video it was coming soon and has said other times it's coming this year.
The past few years CB has made releasing new armies a weeklong event just about the new book/box coming out. They're not changing that plan and people should be use to it by now. These little videos for tournements aren't going to show the stuff they want to hold back for larger events.
Bostria presents a new Infinity video-seminar for the Satellite Tournament at Las Vegas Open (USA). The event took place on February 9th to 10th 2019.
Bostria specifically answered the question about weapon sprues. He stated that CB had made them in the past but they were not profitable, hence why they do not do them anymore.
I was looking away from the screen for a few minutes around the five minute mark and I had to rewind to see if they really named a unit after the silly Cavarricci (sp?) Italian pleated pants of the early 90's. Fortunately for me, the text was on the screen and I was mistaken.
plastictrees wrote: "We won't talk about Khanate until after Ramah comes out!"
Proceeds to give no new information about Ramah.
Now I'm not confident RTF is this year.
Thanks Carlos
It was said multiple times in that video alone that they’re coming soon.
Anybody who has experience with gaming companies, or indeed any company, knows that "Soon" is a cop-out, an empty promise. All it means is that they are working on it, and it will come out at some point between now and the end of time.
Don't get excited till you see pictures and have at least a vague date, like "late next year" or "early spring"
plastictrees wrote: "We won't talk about Khanate until after Ramah comes out!"
Proceeds to give no new information about Ramah.
Now I'm not confident RTF is this year.
Thanks Carlos
It was said multiple times in that video alone that they’re coming soon.
Anybody who has experience with gaming companies, or indeed any company, knows that "Soon" is a cop-out, an empty promise. All it means is that they are working on it, and it will come out at some point between now and the end of time.
Don't get excited till you see pictures and have at least a vague date, like "late next year" or "early spring"
Just rewatched some, and he specifically mentions RTF in the next book (at Adepticon).
Carlos said 5 "new" forces in 19'
I'm sure RTF is 1.. Shasvastii that's 2,
my spec on this is again Shasvastii vs. Tohaa because of the bad blood between them... my guess is a 3rd will be a Tohaa sect with a possibility of a Vs. Starter set... Ice storm/RedVeil/Cold front style...
He's said this is the year of the Alien... what could be more Alien than Shasvastii vs. Tohaa?
The Tohaa destroyed a Shasvastii planet... so there's plenty of Fluff for bad blood...
We are likely to get a new sectorial for Haq, Shasvastii and a mercenary army. That leaves 2 slots. Tohaa would be cool. That leaves one remaining slot.
The Tohaa Triumvirate (which is what I think we'll be getting) are probably going to be NA2 rather than a Sectorial, seeing as they are a shadowy Illuminati-esque society pulling the strings being most of the galactic conflict rather than an official offshoot of the Tohaa military.
Now I'd like to see the Sygmaa Trihedron as a sectorial, but we have exactly 2 units and not a lot else so it'd be a big (big!) release to get them anywhere near release-ready. Unless they also use equivalent units to Tohaa proper, but that seems like it could get messy fast.
jake wrote: Im curious which Warcors got the boot. I was a Warcor for years and there were some real gak stirrers in that group that needed to e removed. But that doesn't mean this was those people. I'm super curious. But if t isn't public knowledge maybe its better not to out those people> Has anyone who was asked to leave publicly identified themselves?
Dysartes wrote: I've seen two of you mention there being less WarCors - which I assume is the Infinity equivalent to the old PP Press Ganger program.
What reason was given for their departure?
Mruczysław, Nazroth, Leigabar,Sambor and me were all removed from the program. We were all Polish warcors.
I along with Nazroth were removed because we were seen as the public faces of the Worldwide Warcor FAQ, an FAQ that we brainstormed with a group of Warcors, Mruczysław was kicked out for bad language on the forums (1 post) and Leigabar and Sambor were removed because they, in short, criticised the handling of the entire issue on the Warcor section of the forums. People who flamed us continue to happily post on the official forums, including Warcors. The three of us were also banned from the official forums with no explanation
CB might have grown out from the garage in a physical sense but the garage remains in them mentally, for good or ill.
The Hidao from the box set wasn't particularly great either, but both are servicable models and the profiles are really useful. I've included the engineer Hidao in all my link teams and having him in there with the Zhuyong especially has been really useful. I've been dividing sniper duty between the Hidao profile and a DaoYing, depending on if I need the extra 6 points somewhere else or not. I've really been enjoying the games w/ IA that I've gotten in, there's a lot of similar options at different prices like that, makes list building easier.
Really hope the Shang Ji get resculpted soon, I love the original models, but they're absolutely tiny compared to the other HI and only have a couple weapon loadouts
Red Harvest wrote: Who else is going to put a banana peel on the base under Perseus' foot? Oopsies. There is nothing about that mini that says "Rogue ALEPH" to me.
It looks more action-posey than the Wu Ming HRL trippy trooper that really slipped on a banana peel yet somehow managed to maintain her aim.
Perseus does look more like a generic Bioware/Activision soldier-boi than anything from Aleph. I really hope this isn't a 'new' style of the Myrmidons. Almost fittingly, we'd be required to purchase DLC to improve them.
.Mikes. wrote: Well at least it's good you're not bitter.
I'm not sure exactly what happened....
but if you're running the business and you've got people that are doing things that are against that businesses policies or that somehow show contempt or insolence you can't promote that.... those kind of things can become cancerous inside of a company and they need to be cut out.
Not that I'm saying you or anyone else did anything exactly wrong because I'm not really following this drama...
but if they had a reason to remove all of the representatives from an entire country it must be a pretty big deal and they must have their reasons as a business.
The female Zulu-Cobra looks really cool and I might have to pick it up
If he just had MSV2 instead of 1 he'd be SO GOOD! Or full camo instead of mimetism, or Marksmanship lvl 2 instead of 1. He's just a bit too mediocre with the lower level versions of all that for 32 points, unfortunately.
Still good to see a lot of the named characters getting releases. Hopefully we'll see a Tai Sheng and a Mary Problems soon
Oh I'm excited
I'm getting Perseus just so that I can have some good pistol hands
Patsy is awesome I hope she's in that pose also. Her SMG is so Dope it reminds me of the RL Hera arms assault rifle kit... I'll be making a few of those too.
Knuff will go somewhere until I build Druze
I've got just enough casting material to do a few more heads and weapons
Kalamadea wrote: If he just had MSV2 instead of 1 he'd be SO GOOD! Or full camo instead of mimetism, or Marksmanship lvl 2 instead of 1. He's just a bit too mediocre with the lower level versions of all that for 32 points, unfortunately.
Still good to see a lot of the named characters getting releases. Hopefully we'll see a Tai Sheng and a Mary Problems soon
Fwiw he’s strictly better than a very similar Grenzer sniper no one wants ....
Some new images popped up from the Infinity Forums. Patsy Garnett's render, Zhayedan Troops box, and a new Dire Foes set with Knauf vs Arslan.
Check out Red Harvest's post.
Weirdly the Zhayedan look like they have two different legs/bodies for the male models. Females also look like they have different legs (right foot heel lifted on the HRL) but it's harder to tell with the angle.
What is it with CB and not giving women both shoulder pads?
(at least the male magisters shared this "feature")
And she's got a Swiss helmet not an Orc one.
And her visor is up.
Gotta say, I'm actually pretty disappointed.
Hoping she comes with a second, "closed" helm, head.
Alpharius wrote: She's an ORC based on...the title of her dossier too, unless I'm not picking up what you're putting down?
No, just a simple question about the armor. I saw the orc face paint on the helmet and heavyish armor (although I've been wrong on that last month) so figured I'd ask.
The blue/ turquoise lines are the indicative of the sectorial, ORC troops paint "grotesque faces" on their helmets in general, they took the joke that comes from their armour been named O.R.C. and run with it regiment wide.
I think everything there is a miss. Despites knaufs well documented and long standing hatred of gophers, the shorts on the civie look too stupid retro 90's. And, the 3 guy in that pack just looks boring, almost a re-sculpt of the sniper loup garou. It may just be the reder coloring but the rest all look bad too.
All three nagas now, the sniper, the minelayer and the hacker. Gone from the catalog too. Well, the naga sniper in the coldfront box is still in the box.
A naga box forthcoming? Doesn't CB usually announce the new before they remove the old?
We should see some sort of teaser for the Adepticon release very soon, possibly tomorrow. I expect the pre-order announcement sometime between 11-13 March.
I never did like the naga minelayer or naga hacker.
Red Harvest wrote: All three nagas now, the sniper, the minelayer and the hacker. Gone from the catalog too. Well, the naga sniper in the coldfront box is still in the box.
A naga box forthcoming? Doesn't CB usually announce the new before they remove the old?
We should see some sort of teaser for the Adepticon release very soon, possibly tomorrow. I expect the pre-order announcement sometime between 11-13 March.
I never did like the naga minelayer or naga hacker.
Oh yeah, I spose we will get the Adepticon teaser soon. That’s come round quick. Can’t beleive it’s been a year since Uprising.
Kanluwen wrote: Nagas are Skirmishers--Skirmishers don't get boxes.
Also the Minelayer was just to (finally) get a model out that wasn't a Hacker or Sniper.
Maybe they should... Support Box A, Skirmisher Box A.
I'm beginning to see the use of some of what's been said about using box sets and extra parts to fix SKU issues...
2 Nagas 4 arm sets, 2 Devas 3 arm sets + Devabot... charge the same as unit box + parts...
Boxes like Hollowmen, Yadu etc ... all load outs charge a little extra for the parts.. I could see only having blisters for units that can't be in boxes....
"Acheron Falls" was literally a working title. Nobody thought it was anything but that. That's why there are so many ridiculous posts over the years making fun of it.
Kanluwen wrote: "Acheron Falls" was literally a working title. Nobody thought it was anything but that. That's why there are so many ridiculous posts over the years making fun of it.
Yeah, I assume he meant was never anything but a working title.
Couple more photos from Facebook, new things and a new Saito Togan (who seems to be the preorder model for the book).
No, as I said in the past and you can find my posts through the years about it, it was never a working title.
"Acheron Falls" was an impromptu placeholder name by Bostria in a BoW interview to stop saying "the next book" that just stuck with the community, regardless of the attempts to make is silently go away.
In any case Next book is "Daedalus' Fall", it is not a working title but the actual name of the book.
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