Thats actually, for once, a pretty reasonable use of lantern in AoS. If you wade through the nurgleinfested sewers of Darkwater with a great sword, that lantern is pretty convenient.
Except you block the light... so it doesn't help with seeing in front of you.
It's really good for people who want to shoot you in the back.
cole1114 wrote: I know people were mostly voting off the very nice pictures that exist of models, but god Ushoran looks SO bad on tabletop/viewed from above.
The model or the big ass base? If the model/character himself, why? I haven't seen him in the wild.
He looks like a big ol' meatball from above is the problem.
In case you weren't aware, for all its flaws GW's online store has a 360° view of Ushoran that lets you see him from a 45° angle and from above in addition to the side view. Should give a good enough impression of what the model looks like when it's on the tabletop.
Hey now, hurting the feelings of Beasts of Nurgle is NOT cool. They are adorable.
What a load of crap. We all know they feel no pain!
That's only physical pain - they feel emotional pain all the time!
They are hyper active, super happy 'labrador' brained creatures who just want to run over, give you a lick and play with you. Or get you to throw a stick for them to fetch; or show you the super cool thing they found.
That their lick causes your face to melt; that the stick is likely someone's bone and the cool thing they found is a puss oozing horror from Nurgle's Garden - these are all totally not intended to kill you. Indeed they get very sad and then angry when all their new best friends run away; stab at them or otherwise die before they can finish playing.
Thats actually, for once, a pretty reasonable use of lantern in AoS. If you wade through the nurgleinfested sewers of Darkwater with a great sword, that lantern is pretty convenient.
Except you block the light... so it doesn't help with seeing in front of you.
It's really good for people who want to shoot you in the back.
If you're leading a party through a dungeon, it will allow those behind to see you while not shining too much light ahead to give away your presence to those lurking ahead of you.
You could have a helmet with an integrated candle holder up front, but thats dwarf level ancient technology.
One would think the ghost of her grandmum could just light up the blade in eerie light tho.
Festus is just too much, as is often the case in AoS.
New blightkings are quite ugly, at least need different helmets. The armoured guys look like the old blightkings, which makes them good.
The Knights are pretty nice.
They seem a big departure from the old style ones, what with the less-armoured look, but Darkwater's Blight Templars don't. Maybe the old Blight Kings will be 'downgraded' to just being Templars?
When Cursed City came out I picked up a few spare sprue off ebay for the Soulblight half because a good chunk of those models were core style models that either outright remain in the army (zombies) or are so close they count as easily (skeletons). Plus the heroes are easily used as generic lords and characters just with more flare. A few of the monsters you'll lose when Darkwater eventually goes off-sale; but even then they might return as named or new monsters.
Considering the Demon Prince is a staple that's easily a big model you could use over and over in the future.
So yeah a lot of good coverage for the game and also for adding to a Nurgle army
Overall fantastic release for Nurgle. Ten years ago this would've been a dream come true, nowadays I just can't commit to another side project. Or can I?
BertBert wrote: Ten years ago this would've been a dream come true,
This sums it up. Personally I think the design looks like AoS 10 years ago. The way Festus is just buckets of random junk poured over a (perhaps) decent base concept. It ends up with models that dont make sense.
I feel its a step back from the exelent and more balanced releases we have seen for last two years or so. Im not impressed.
BertBert wrote: Ten years ago this would've been a dream come true,
This sums it up. Personally I think the design looks like AoS 10 years ago. The way Festus is just buckets of random junk poured over a (perhaps) decent base concept. It ends up with models that dont make sense.
I feel its a step back from the exelent and more balanced releases we have seen for last two years or so. Im not impressed.
I disagree. Guy's meant to be some master chemist. That was festooned over his old foot model, this is just the growth of that. And now Horticulus has a slug buddy.
BertBert wrote: Ten years ago this would've been a dream come true,
This sums it up. Personally I think the design looks like AoS 10 years ago. The way Festus is just buckets of random junk poured over a (perhaps) decent base concept. It ends up with models that dont make sense.
I feel its a step back from the exelent and more balanced releases we have seen for last two years or so. Im not impressed.
They are still under the AoS umbrella, so some of this in unavoidable. That being said, the knight variants really work for me, both mounted and on foot. If you compare them to some of the 40k nurgle stuff, they are a lot more restrained.
Yep same thing they did for Cursed City for the Soulblight. Then when Darkwater reaches the end of its lifespan those models might get some retired and might keep some.
CC is going through that right now; a selection of them remained and a selection of them vanished. Though even those that vanished a good few can still pull duty as counts as infantry/leader models without any issue. If you're a big Nurgle player having two sets of the boxed set or hunting down the sprues on ebay during the launch period can be a very viable tactic to some cheaper than normal models.
Except for Blight Kings, that’s… an unnecessary “improvement”.
They just look like fat guys with axes now, closer to ogres. And the previous versions still held up well, didn’t it??
The sword version works, but damn.. I regret not getting previous blight kings now.
Glad I have old Festus as well. I like the new one, but now I can have both versions - before and after the ascendancy
The Pestigors from Darkwater look better out of the two, but both versions are pretty cool. TOW reassessment will be upon them for sure.
Except for Blight Kings, that’s… an unnecessary “improvement”.
They just look like fat guys with axes now, closer to ogres. And the previous versions still held up well, didn’t it??
The sword version works, but damn.. I regret not getting previous blight kings now.
Glad I have old Festus as well. I like the new one, but now I can have both versions - before and after the ascendancy
The Pestigors from Darkwater look better out of the two, but both versions are pretty cool. TOW reassessment will be upon them for sure.
The old blightkings are shown as coming for the next AoS hachette magazine, so either they're not going away or you at least still have the ability to pick them up (and for cheap)
Interesting that the Pestigors from Darkwater and the new ones from AOS look so different. They're not even variations on the same theme, they seem to be two entirely different takes from the concept art up. Leftover old Pestigor models perhaps?
And the Blight Templars from Darkwater look great, but the new Blight Kings look very meh. Good product synergy though, if you have people buying Warhammer Quest and only be one Spearhead away from having a decent sized AOS force that's good marketing.
Cursed Crusade was a little odd like that too - they had generic zombies from the Soulblight army, but then they had a whole squad of semi-unique skeletons that were almost but not quite the same.
The new direction they are going with Nurgle seems to be less about disease and more just…fat.
The two obviously go together, but I preferred both as a good mixture of life/plenty (fat) with death (disease).
The new blightkings are a miss for me. They have too much of a video game, dark souls kind of aesthetic with big wide bodies, tiny little feet, no eyes, cartoonishly large weapons, etc.
I picked up my first box of the old blightkings after seeing the new ones lol. Didn’t want to miss a kit that so many hobbyists praise for its variety. The new kit is likely to be monopose with no real options and cost the same or more.
Must say that I find it really surprising that they remade the blight kings. That kits was still insanely godd looking, and not even that old.
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frankelee wrote: Interesting that the Pestigors from Darkwater and the new ones from AOS look so different. They're not even variations on the same theme, they seem to be two entirely different takes from the concept art up. Leftover old Pestigor models perhaps?
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Yeah, it almost seems like they put 2 sculptors in ocmpetition and decided to publish both of their works... really weird
Hellebore wrote: They could do some wasting disease style models as well. Disease isn't always bloating.
The juxtaposition of fat dudes with haunting withered guys would be interesting. If would stop the over flanderisation of nurgle just being fat guys
Nurgle aesthetic has been flanderised to boring repetitiveness for decades at this point. For some bizarre reason someone in the studio seems to be really enamoured with, thus the nauseating repetition of the same jolly fat pustulant guys ad infinitum.
Hellebore wrote: They could do some wasting disease style models as well. Disease isn't always bloating.
The juxtaposition of fat dudes with haunting withered guys would be interesting. If would stop the over flanderisation of nurgle just being fat guys
No no, it's not just fat guys. Nowadays it's also antlers and tentacles.
It seems like Nurgle is the only Chaos faction allowed to have mutations anymore. Can the Tzeentchian mooks not scrape together a single tentacle between them?
Overread wrote: Yep same thing they did for Cursed City for the Soulblight. Then when Darkwater reaches the end of its lifespan those models might get some retired and might keep some.
CC is going through that right now; a selection of them remained and a selection of them vanished. Though even those that vanished a good few can still pull duty as counts as infantry/leader models without any issue. If you're a big Nurgle player having two sets of the boxed set or hunting down the sprues on ebay during the launch period can be a very viable tactic to some cheaper than normal models.
Don't think they announced that at the launch however.
While I have literally zero interest in anything Nurgle, I am glad to see they're finally releasing a demon prince model for Festus. He ascended a decade ago during the End Times, so this is LONG overdue.
BorderCountess wrote: While I have literally zero interest in anything Nurgle, I am glad to see they're finally releasing a demon prince model for Festus. He ascended a decade ago during the End Times, so this is LONG overdue.
We're just happy that you are posting on the AoS thread.
Soon you will invite Age of Sigmar into your heart and your home will be filled with joy and Stormcast Eternals.
The paintjob does not fit well with the new Nurgle models. I do love the giant Plaguebearers, though. I'm disappointed that Festus no longer has his blue Nurgling with him anymore.
ArcaneHorror wrote: The paintjob does not fit well with the new Nurgle models. I do love the giant Plaguebearers, though. I'm disappointed that Festus no longer has his blue Nurgling with him anymore.
My head cannon is that he turned into the slug mount
The art really is bad. I used to purchase GW books just for the art. But most of the new stuff just ranges from AI slop to generic B class video game art by a contractor.
That Slaanesh box saving amount HAS to be someone in admin having fun at some stage when setting the prices in advance on all that stuff
I'm calling it now that the Soulblight is the fastest to sell out - honestly I'm sorely tempted but I don't technically "need" more blood nights and I'm moving house so I should be saving not spending
Historically they always have but its hard to tell and some of those might shift REALLY fast whcih can tend to make stores not even apply much discount.
Eg I'd expect the soulblight to shift really fast and have the least; meanwhile the Sylvaneth might shift really slow as it has less appeal to established fans of the army since its mostly older models and the leader is a named leader with no alt-build. So if you've already got her you'd only need another for fun/conversions.
Meanwhile something like the Imperial Guard one is just solid builder content that you can use to start/expand an army with. It just slots in neatly.
Overread wrote: Historically they always have but its hard to tell and some of those might shift REALLY fast whcih can tend to make stores not even apply much discount.
Eg I'd expect the soulblight to shift really fast and have the least; meanwhile the Sylvaneth might shift really slow as it has less appeal to established fans of the army since its mostly older models and the leader is a named leader with no alt-build. So if you've already got her you'd only need another for fun/conversions.
Meanwhile something like the Imperial Guard one is just solid builder content that you can use to start/expand an army with. It just slots in neatly.
Element in the UK didn't apply discount to the Battleforces the last couple of years (I bought boxes on both occasions), although they did run a promotion offering loyalty points at a higher rate than normal (5 per pound rather than 1 per pound, I think).
I wouldn't worry about a discount as it appears that just like Crux Terminatus and Kill Team: Dead Silence, GW only made enough for scalpers and not the rest of us genuine customers. One of the FLGS's i order from is only getting 25 out of the 500 battleboxes they ordered
LordAriakan wrote: I wouldn't worry about a discount as it appears that just like Crux Terminatus and Kill Team: Dead Silence, GW only made enough for scalpers and not the rest of us genuine customers. One of the FLGS's i order from is only getting 25 out of the 500 battleboxes they ordered
Once you're selling 500 of a bundle like this, you've long since ceased being an LGS.
Even if theres no discounts at independents you are still having a good and relevant saving with these sets. Unlike the terminators box that you would only be saving 1 mini or so, if you would get all split from an independent with discount.
None of those boxes are spot on of what I want and I doubt there will be much of them to begin with.
Maybe they're ordering that many knowing they'd only get a small fraction of it. If you want 25, don't ask for 25, but way more to ensure you get that 25.
Well the christmas box pre-orders went up today. The Crimson Keep box sold out within a minute or two on all 7 of the Australian online retailers I know of and use. There goes my chances of getting a cheapish Prince Vhordrai.
Going to have to do some hardcore lurking on the retailer sites in the hopes someone cancels their order and I can swoop in on it.
UK still appears to have stocks even now though I'm being very very good and not buying cause gotta save to move house. Even though its a saving in the long run on the Soulblight one
Though a few of the bigger stores are now running these boxes on "one per customer" to spread out the stock
That's hardly surprising as it's mainly made up of old dryads and a character nigh on every Sylvaneth player already has. And it's an inferior repeat of another box that had an extra tree lord in it.
Yeah Sylvaneth is running on new people only whilst Soulblight that dragon is very new and expensive and so the set is well worth grabbing for a lot of existing fans. Plus the dragons are under 300points to field so taking multiple is very doable so even if you bought one or two dragon kits, having another works.
So not only have you got new and existing fans wanting it; if the store lets you buy more than one there's even reason to get more than one (though 2 would be the limit and that's assuming that you didn't own any blood knights before)
Honestly the only surprise for me is that the Tyranid one has sold out in a few places; but then again anyone that missed Leviathan will likely want more screamers/neurothropes and I guess there has been enough time that the cheap leviathan stocks have run out in most places.
With the Nid one, 3/5th of the box is duel kits you can build multiple ways. And the mono-build stuff is new to this edition, so doesn’t have years of backstock on people’s shelves.
It’s not hard to get handfuls of little gribbles in assorted places, but harder to find good deals on the big monsters. Which is what this box is.
Yeah, Tyranids makes sense to me. Plus they are the opposing force in this edition. What surprised me is that Death Korps took way longer to sell out on GW's online store than the Chaos boyos that went almost instantly. People must really love that old Rhino.
I'm not game for anything right now, but if the troll box stuck around until closer to Christmas, I might buy one.
Geifer wrote: Yeah, Tyranids makes sense to me. Plus they are the opposing force in this edition. What surprised me is that Death Korps took way longer to sell out on GW's online store than the Chaos boyos that went almost instantly. People must really love that old Rhino.
I'm not game for anything right now, but if the troll box stuck around until closer to Christmas, I might buy one.
I think its more that the DKoK box has the lowest points, the lowest savings and has overlap with the army army set (3 Artillery teams)
It's low points but its all pretty new models and lets face it its artillery and troops - things that IG are famous for and are popular. Being low points actually makes it more attractive as a multi-buy. Esp as there weren't really any unique leader models in there; its all your standard core infantry, artillery and leaders
Nice. It's been interesting seeing the sort of flip flopping about which stores have sold out of which boxes first. Apart from the Soulblight, it varies very much between stores for some reason.
Even on the internet people have favoured stores they shop at and don't shop around and that's before you hit the smaller stores that don't land on the front page that are more serving a local community.
Plus the discounts vary too - I've noticed some stores will steep discount the slower sellers but not the high sellers; eg pretty sure Firestorm split the discounts and was offering zero discount on some of the fast selling boxed sets
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But the styles clash extremely and the bodies are incredibly repetetive. On another note, they've restocked all the x-mas boxes on the main site for both systems.
Oh yeah the leaders and warriors don't match up but darn it its chaos - plus you can bet there will be some kind of marauder leader and mounted leader in the future for Chaos in oldworld
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: But the styles clash extremely and the bodies are incredibly repetetive. On another note, they've restocked all the x-mas boxes on the main site for both systems.
The old marauders clashed with chaos warriors for 30 years. I think if you're building a chaos army to look as cohesive as possible you're not really embracing the spirit of chaos... :p not that different types of fantasy leather BDSM and armour are that divergent From one another really.
I'm finding the overly reductive nurgle et al designs to be bad at chaos for this reason. It's literally in the name.
I think though the cost will be the thing - marauders will be cheaper for more so the average person without much cash might find that more attractive than the imo obscenely overpriced AOS units (across all factions).
Being "chaos" doesn't give leeway as to why you'd have guys dressed in heavy furs and leathers mixing with more conan-esque bare chested, arms and legs etc. Looks weird.
And the new marauders are still extremely expensive for only ten unique bodies.
Chaos has guys wearing almost no armour next to guys in full plate mail that's double thickness next to guys with mouths where their guts should be and another with a bird beak standing on a spinning disk of fire whilst another is holding on for dear life to a metal chain connected to a living metal machine bull that's probably breathing out smoke and fire.*
I think you can get away mixing Conan and Vikings in the same army
*and don't get me started on things like the Unmade who were the best Chaos Marauders for ages - they are basically Pinhead on stilts!
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Being "chaos" doesn't give leeway as to why you'd have guys dressed in heavy furs and leathers mixing with more conan-esque bare chested, arms and legs etc. Looks weird.
And the new marauders are still extremely expensive for only ten unique bodies.
Based on the pricing GW is using for their old world units, 20 marauders will cost 54.50pounds (unless they decided to sell them in boxes of 30 like gors), while the darkoath marauders box is 35.50 for 10, or 76 for 20. And they're both reusing the same bodies twice over, so that's a wash.
I have no doubt that plenty of people will avoid the WFB models for this purpose, but I imagine the sheer price difference will tip many over - you have to spend 40% more than the WFB marauders to get the same number of darkoath. Back in my student days this is exactly the kind of saving I would be looking for when deciding on what to get if I'm wanting to play a faction.
When you scale that up to a full army, 100 darkoath marauders sets you back 355 pounds, compared to 272.50 pounds for the WFB marauders. That's ignoring trying to get better savings with the battalion and reinforcement boxes etc. The darkoath box gets you 26 models for 91 pounds compared to the current battalion box for WFB at 115 pounds for 40 marauders and 10 horsemen - you're doubling your model count for an additional 24 pounds! And that's the discount box for the Darkoath...
If I were building an AoS army, I'd only be using the more unique centre piece models or unit entries that have no comparable equivalent in WFB, otherwise all those troops would be the cheapest models I could get away with.
I think the christmas boxes are not really worth it regarding price, if you cannot get them at a store with 20% off.
Because the GW internal price of 200 Euro is almost as much as you would pay from a 20% FLGS for all the items individually.
And there's also always the fact that usually there's SOMETHING in the box you weren't as keen on, whereas buying the kits you want from a discounter lets you get exactly what you want.
Of course, sometimes the box has the exact combo you were looking for and then it's still a decent deal, but that's also relative because of how extremely expensive GW kits are.
And yet many people still buy from their local GW store or the GW webstore (though that has reduced since the new website - I also think it doesn't help that the actual link for the store from their community site is pretty much "hidden" behind a symbol in the top left which if you don't know its there to click you wouldn't click it)
I think it's region based more than anything. The Soulblight one is a straight £90 off retail, so the bloodknights free essentially. Plus the extra 20% from most retailers, and i'd say the discount is worth it.
Whether GW is worth the initial price of course is a another discussion.
Astmeister wrote: Yeah I just checked for the highest discounted box Soulblight Gravelords.
Soulblight Box 200 Euro
Individual purchase 228 Euro
That's not good enough imho.
Well it was a pretty fething amazing deal in in Oz. It breaks down thus.
The box here costs $420 from GW.
Prince Vhordrai = $330
Blood Knights = $125
Giant Bats = $103
So individually the contents are an eye watering $683AUD. So even purchasing from GW direct, already you've saved the price of both sets of Blood Knights.
If you do the sensible thing and buy it from an online reseller, that brings the box set down to just shy of a marginally more palatable $330, which incidentally is the price of Vhordrai by himself. You'd be fething mad not to try and get your hands on it here.
Astmeister wrote: Yeah I just checked for the highest discounted box Soulblight Gravelords.
Soulblight Box 200 Euro
Individual purchase 228 Euro
That's not good enough imho.
Well it was a pretty fething amazing deal in in Oz. It breaks down thus.
The box here costs $420 from GW.
Prince Vhordrai = $330
Blood Knights = $125
Giant Bats = $103
So individually the contents are an eye watering $683AUD. So even purchasing from GW direct, already you've saved the price of both sets of Blood Knights.
If you do the sensible thing and buy it from an online reseller, that brings the box set down to just shy of a marginally more palatable $330, which incidentally is the price of Vhordrai by himself. You'd be fething mad not to try and get your hands on it here.
I don't think they where talking about the box being worth it if you get it at a discount. Its the box at full price vs the contents at a discount. Though the 228€ doesn't seem right as that would be a 28% discount?
For Oz the comparison would be the full $420 for the box vs the 20% discounted contents at $546,4.
Which is obviously still a big discount but this is also the best box of this batch.
Looking at the Krieg box which is the worst one its $420 vs the individual contents only being $559 without a discount and $447,2 with the 20% discount in Oz.
So if you can't get the battleforce at a discount its only $27,2 less or a 7% disscount then buying the contents seperatly and thats assuming you want everything from that box and don't use other ways to get stuff cheaper like their Combat Patrol
The breaking point for me is the contents because the big boxes gives you one unit "free". If theres something that you dont like there, then its better off getting all separate and with discounts.
Also not sure about decals on the 40k ones since crux terminatos had one big sheet... but if you got the term boxes individually you would get probably 3 smaller ones?
Matrindur wrote:I don't think they where talking about the box being worth it if you get it at a discount. Its the box at full price vs the contents at a discount. Though the 228€ doesn't seem right as that would be a 28% discount?
Astmeister wrote:Yes you are right Martrindur.
Right, sorry that's on me then for misunderstanding. Carry on.
For those interested, the TGA rumor thread has possibly the most potato of all potato cam pics of Deathmaster Crixxit of the Skaven and some sort of tiger that comes with a new Cities of Sigmar special hero, named Jorvan.
Peak Potato Cam, I gak you not.
And there looks to be another rumor monger(Reformation), dropping hints of future releases/lore. I hadn’t been on that site in a few weeks, so I’m not sure if he’s new or not. He/she seems pleasant enough and has some accurate info, it seems.
If the rumor from user Reformation on TGA saying that Krethusa’s rebellion against Morathi gets stamped out, that’ll be the death of one of the cooler AoS lore developments in recent years. I guess it’ll depend on how well that plot hook is written to judge whether it was wasted or not .
Ohhh that's neat. That must be genuine potatoe cam rather than the GW special. But exciting. Cog fort finally please? Also nice too know that ascended Khul is coming sometime in the future.
nels1031 wrote: For those interested, the TGA rumor thread has possibly the most potato of all potato cam pics of Deathmaster Crixxit of the Skaven and some sort of tiger that comes with a new Cities of Sigmar special hero, named Jorvan.
Peak Potato Cam, I gak you not.
And there looks to be another rumor monger(Reformation), dropping hints of future releases/lore. I hadn’t been on that site in a few weeks, so I’m not sure if he’s new or not. He/she seems pleasant enough and has some accurate info, it seems.
If the rumor from user Reformation on TGA saying that Krethusa’s rebellion against Morathi gets stamped out, that’ll be the death of one of the cooler AoS lore developments in recent years. I guess it’ll depend on how well that plot hook is written to judge whether it was wasted or not .
That’s not potato cam. That’s ultrasound on the sculptor’s brain that!
Those certainly are not pictures that are worth 1000 words. If anything, most descriptions exceeding 2 words probably give you more information than they do.
Impressive, really.
nels1031 wrote: For those interested, the TGA rumor thread has possibly the most potato of all potato cam pics of Deathmaster Crixxit of the Skaven and some sort of tiger that comes with a new Cities of Sigmar special hero, named Jorvan.
Peak Potato Cam, I gak you not.
And there looks to be another rumor monger(Reformation), dropping hints of future releases/lore. I hadn’t been on that site in a few weeks, so I’m not sure if he’s new or not. He/she seems pleasant enough and has some accurate info, it seems.
If the rumor from user Reformation on TGA saying that Krethusa’s rebellion against Morathi gets stamped out, that’ll be the death of one of the cooler AoS lore developments in recent years. I guess it’ll depend on how well that plot hook is written to judge whether it was wasted or not .
That’s not potato cam. That’s ultrasound on the sculptor’s brain that!
It's most likely someone at the printers, taking photos of materials that may be marked in some way. The ultrasound quality is presumably meant to obfuscate those marks.
Da Boss wrote: I'm fascinated as to how you actually take photos that bad in the modern era, that must be deliberate?
Well, by no means am I confessing to any form of corporate espionage/breaking + entering, but a clipboard and a reflective vest can get you pretty much anywhere. And hypothetically, if I were to find my way into a toy companies production room, they are on the lookout for modern technology. And that's where my grandfathers WW2 era Lucky Strike cigarette camera comes into play. Its not the best result, but its a result.
Also I can't believe GW has made another impossibly weirdly tall misshapen thing with that cogfort, it certainly looks like it has a massive tower with a giant cannon on top rather than just a more expected and true to the art giant ambulatory steam tank. Seems like it will be a nightmare to transport.
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: Ok? I mean, the pictures link up with previous descriptions of other rumours. Not sure what your problem is.
I really have to explain to you that the pics are so blurry & vague that, other than an outline of a cat, I can't tell what the hell they're supposed to be?
When the 3 year cycle continuous, will AOS be released again next year?
And if this is the case it sounds like they are not giving battletomes to some armies this edition?
Astmeister wrote: When the 3 year cycle continuous, will AOS be released again next year?
And if this is the case it sounds like they are not giving battletomes to some armies this edition?
You're a year out. AoS 5th edition is due in 2027. All armies are due to get battletomes by the end of 2026 except Fyreslayers who are being combined with traditional Duardin in a new battletome.
Astmeister wrote: Ah okay I thought next year would be refresh already.
I suppose my CoS will get a new book right before the next edition then. sad.
Apparently another rumour stated that all the tomes will be finished by 2026. So, it will be quite an intense year for releases if these rumours play out.
To be honest I suspect it's a composite of things made to look like a Gargant, but I did wonder whether the looted cogfort might be making up a significant chunk of it.
Went with the Wight King/Lord on steed for my AoS mini of the year in the voting. I just wish the axe option was a more menacing looking weapon.
The Beastmen shaman in TOW, and Logan Grimnar in 40K.
Voted for the metal cover WH+ Necromancer. Whole barrow range is great too, and he has at least two of them. Also like the Hobgrots somehow - far better than those from the Kruleboyz.
Servitors for 40k (cause I just like Servitors and the Overseer even more) and for the RotB the Cadaver Merchant and Narcer (both simply great sculpts).
Yeah there are certainly a lot of nice 40k minis this year but none of them really stood out for me. So I picked Phoenix Lord Fuegan as he's the only one on the list I could imagine myself painting.
Followed up with Prince Vhordrai for AoS and Miao Ying for everything else.
I'll be happy if a normal sized model (40mm base or smaller) ends up winning even a single category but I'm not going to hold my breath in that regard as the expensive big honkin' dioramas masquerading as models typically dominate the voting.
Inquisitor Gideon wrote: AoS was Methala, because everyone is going to vote for Vhordrai anyway.
I specifically didn't vote Vhordrai because of the lack of generic lord in the kit. It annoys me to no end. Instantly iconic model, but I'm so sour about what the kit lacks.
Same way I feel about Ionus Cryptborn and his dragon, which is even more limited in build options.
AoS was a tough choice because nothing really appealed to me. So I went with the ork tower "The rest" was a tough choice because there was a lot of awesome stuff there, necromunda really has some great sculpts, Horus Heresy has more interesting marines than the whole 40k range, and even blood Bowl has fun stuff.
In the end I went with the Thanatar even though it's not even a new mini, but I just love that design.
The 40K list showed that GW once again makes too many Marines. I went with the halflings, they have a lot of character, I even hesitated to get them even though I'd have no use for imperial models.
I appreciate that they up put pictures alongside the names so you can actually see what you're voting for. Definite and welcome improvement over past years.
40k for my was easy. I voted for the only model I bought and actually painted, Lysander.
AoS was kind of easy as well, but maybe not entirely fair. The Hashut melee infantry was the kit that stood out to me the most this year. Not necessarily because it's the best in some regard, but because it's that got a positive reaction out of me that I remember even months after the reveal.
Other was perhaps the most competition, but it's hard not to vote for the Tomb Kings herald.
Its rare to see anything from a smaller game get "good" competetive rules in the main games (AoS or 40k).
Its a nice thing to have rules for narrative purpose, and is not intended for more.
