Buttery Commissar wrote: Dungeon? Sir, I'm wounded. It's a well sterilised medical bay.
Then again, that's if the Captain likes you. He's a very helpful man.
My EC do play by their own rules somewhat. They're in this for the practise, once they arrive. An entirely unarmed man likely has little to fear from them... unless he's stupid enough to be on the battlefield.
Well first off none of my Eldar are "men" persay. We're aliens, so that makes it bad for us. Two, it's essentially a dungeon, a place I have no desire for my Eldar to be in.
Maybe I'll just stick to going after Kharne's Necrons.
Buttery Commissar wrote: Dungeon? Sir, I'm wounded. It's a well sterilised medical bay.
Then again, that's if the Captain likes you. He's a very helpful man.
My EC do play by their own rules somewhat. They're in this for the practise, once they arrive. An entirely unarmed man likely has little to fear from them... unless he's stupid enough to be on the battlefield.
Well first off none of my Eldar are "men" persay. We're aliens, so that makes it bad for us. Two, it's essentially a dungeon, a place I have no desire for my Eldar to be in.
Maybe I'll just stick to going after Kharne's Necrons.
I will stick to fething with you guys.
Feth off TS
You didn't see that coming did you? You didn't expect Ryus to be alive?
Buttery Commissar wrote: Dungeon? Sir, I'm wounded. It's a well sterilised medical bay.
Then again, that's if the Captain likes you. He's a very helpful man.
My EC do play by their own rules somewhat. They're in this for the practise, once they arrive. An entirely unarmed man likely has little to fear from them... unless he's stupid enough to be on the battlefield.
Well first off none of my Eldar are "men" persay. We're aliens, so that makes it bad for us. Two, it's essentially a dungeon, a place I have no desire for my Eldar to be in.
Maybe I'll just stick to going after Kharne's Necrons.
All I'm saying is that if we fight, and I win, instead of gunning down all casualties, I may take them home and play a little. Dead is dead, as I said. I'm not going to take any main characters or random people - I didn't even kill the tau because I want Smudge to have a way to respond.
Buttery Commissar wrote: Dungeon? Sir, I'm wounded. It's a well sterilised medical bay.
Then again, that's if the Captain likes you. He's a very helpful man.
My EC do play by their own rules somewhat. They're in this for the practise, once they arrive. An entirely unarmed man likely has little to fear from them... unless he's stupid enough to be on the battlefield.
Well first off none of my Eldar are "men" persay. We're aliens, so that makes it bad for us. Two, it's essentially a dungeon, a place I have no desire for my Eldar to be in.
Maybe I'll just stick to going after Kharne's Necrons.
All I'm saying is that if we fight, and I win, instead of gunning down all casualties, I may take them home and play a little. Dead is dead, as I said. I'm not going to take any main characters or random people - I didn't even kill the tau because I want Smudge to have a way to respond.
I know that, but the best way to defeat Slaneeshi Marines is to deny them their fun. So I shall avoid you at all costs, and divert you to go attack Smudge and his Tau. It's brilliant!
Tactical_Spam wrote:
War Kitten wrote: I don't care about that. I'm talking about your insistence on fething with my armies. Go bother someone else.
The best way to defeat EC is to embarrass them. They literally can't cope with humiliation of being beaten.
And I don't think you get to choose who I make friends with. Though if you prefer I go after humans, I hear there are two rather flashy knight houses stomping around on Crion.
Buttery Commissar wrote: The best way to defeat EC is to embarrass them. They literally can't cope with humiliation of being beaten.
And I don't think you get to choose who I make friends with. Though if you prefer I go after humans, I hear there are two rather flashy knight houses stomping around on Crion.
I'm not choosing who you can be friends with. I'm trying to divert the oncoming gak storm to someone else
Buttery Commissar wrote: The best way to defeat EC is to embarrass them. They literally can't cope with humiliation of being beaten.
And I don't think you get to choose who I make friends with. Though if you prefer I go after humans, I hear there are two rather flashy knight houses stomping around on Crion.
*After battle*
"HAHA I win, you lose!" "Who's perfect now?"
I might yell this after every battle I win against you
Buttery Commissar wrote: The best way to defeat EC is to embarrass them. They literally can't cope with humiliation of being beaten.
And I don't think you get to choose who I make friends with. Though if you prefer I go after humans, I hear there are two rather flashy knight houses stomping around on Crion.
Got it. The one way to defeat the Buttery One is to pants his army. Perfect!
Buttery Commissar wrote: The best way to defeat EC is to embarrass them. They literally can't cope with humiliation of being beaten.
And I don't think you get to choose who I make friends with. Though if you prefer I go after humans, I hear there are two rather flashy knight houses stomping around on Crion.
*After battle*
"HAHA I win, you lose!" "Who's perfect now?"
I might yell this after every battle I win against you
You have to win one and there be enough of you left to speak clearly, first. Getting the EC to fight in the first place may not be as easy as you think, either.
Buttery Commissar wrote: The best way to defeat EC is to embarrass them. They literally can't cope with humiliation of being beaten.
And I don't think you get to choose who I make friends with. Though if you prefer I go after humans, I hear there are two rather flashy knight houses stomping around on Crion.
*After battle*
"HAHA I win, you lose!" "Who's perfect now?"
I might yell this after every battle I win against you
You have to win one and there be enough of you left to speak clearly, first. Getting the EC to fight in the first place may not be as easy as you think, either.
True, Taranis will probably just roar at you... what upgrades could your AdMech provide my 'special' Lightning Claws?
Buttery Commissar wrote: The best way to defeat EC is to embarrass them. They literally can't cope with humiliation of being beaten.
And I don't think you get to choose who I make friends with. Though if you prefer I go after humans, I hear there are two rather flashy knight houses stomping around on Crion.
*After battle*
"HAHA I win, you lose!" "Who's perfect now?"
I might yell this after every battle I win against you
You have to win one and there be enough of you left to speak clearly, first. Getting the EC to fight in the first place may not be as easy as you think, either.
True, Taranis will probably just roar at you... what upgrades could your AdMech provide my 'special' Lightning Claws?
You mean, "Taranis will probably stare at you condescendingly"
Buttery Commissar wrote: The best way to defeat EC is to embarrass them. They literally can't cope with humiliation of being beaten.
And I don't think you get to choose who I make friends with. Though if you prefer I go after humans, I hear there are two rather flashy knight houses stomping around on Crion.
*After battle*
"HAHA I win, you lose!" "Who's perfect now?"
I might yell this after every battle I win against you
You have to win one and there be enough of you left to speak clearly, first. Getting the EC to fight in the first place may not be as easy as you think, either.
True, Taranis will probably just roar at you... what upgrades could your AdMech provide my 'special' Lightning Claws?
You mean, "Taranis will probably stare at you condescendingly"
Yeah, I forgot you can't yell without vocal chords .
but to be honest, it would be pretty damn scary to have Taranis just stare at you... especially when his eyes are just pure black
And I know how Carcharadons sound, they actually have soft voices ironically
Ahhh poop. I knew it wasn't unique in the history of storytelling, I didn't realise there was gonna be two dudes with that issue popping up in the same campaign.
Guess I'm changing my OCD marine. I liked the idea of someone so obsessed with damaged self image that he wears full plate, even when it's impractical/weird.
"Sir it's not that I don't respect your ideals, but we don't make dining chairs that accommodate power armor."
"Then I shall stand."
"That won't be awkward at all."
Damnit Kharne, I only wrote two characters and you manage to make one of them superfluous with your continual inability to pick a consistent idea.
At least your marine talks, kharne's doesn't.
Which bears the question, why the feth is he in charge? How does he give orders? Text to speech device? Death threats written on the flesh of an lizard-concubine? Or do they just charge forward, thus minimising the need for strategy and tactics?
aldo wrote: At least your marine talks, kharne's doesn't.
Which bears the question, why the feth is he in charge? How does he give orders? Text to speech device? Death threats written on the flesh of an lizard-concubine? Or do they just charge forward, thus minimising the need for strategy and tactics?
What?
Where does one get one of those in M41? I thought Charcarodons were obsessed with sharks, not Sslyths.
Taranis does that, but that's because his face and throat are extremely scarred and it's not pretty
aldo wrote:Kharne's grimdark birdmen-turned-fishmen are into that weird no-face-showing fetish too.
Just Taranis, and where did Birdmen come from?!?
aldo wrote:At least your marine talks, kharne's doesn't.
Which bears the question, why the feth is he in charge? How does he give orders? Text to speech device? Death threats written on the flesh of an lizard-concubine? Or do they just charge forward, thus minimising the need for strategy and tactics?
He's slightly psychic so that's how he communicates. I'm tempted to put a laser on hid head...
Also, part 2 of my intro is sorta done, and I say sorta because I'm not sure about it. It isn't bad, but I don't really feel it right. I don't know what to change, but that much dialogue just freaks me out and makes me think its not right.
But before you read it, and because that much dialogue with so little identification is one of the things I'm not sure about but can't think how to fix, a lil' charachter list.
Starring:
The Astartes with:
Asim Torosian as The Chaos Lord
Price Solak as the Strong Silent Type
Engin Vaughan as The Cheeky Bastard
and Madoc Tichaona as Grumpy Techmarine
and
The Mortals with:
Commander Mansur Bevan as the Naval Officer.
Lieutenant Rukiye Feray as the Sociopathic Army Officer.
Lieutenant Katida Aksoy as the Only Sane Person in the crew, intelligence provider and logistics person
Doctor Iestyn Kostandin as the Mad Scientist and Zombie Maker, ocasional medic.
and Eser Kondwani, The Wich, Sorcerer and maker of Warped Chaos Cookies
Spoiler:
-... A direct attack on the world’s capital with chem bombardments. That would crack the moral of the defenders instantly.
-Have you seen the anti-air defence graphs? No way I’m sending my birds in against that. We would barely cause enough damage to justify...
-What about leaving them without food? those farm-cities are vulnerable...
-We don’t have the resources nor the time to subdue this world by hunger, we should just jump in and plunder what we can, surely the Imperium will exterminate everything to make sure it isn’t “tainted”.
-No, no, no, we should sack all those ruins, ancient artifacts surely await us there.
-Enough!
All faces that seconds before were bickering around the holo-maps and the data-chips turned towards their leader.
As always, Mansur wondered if the lord, or captain, as his navy-trained mind prefered, would have been as handsome had he not been an astartes. And he always ended with the same answer. No. It was that combination of genetically architecture beauty, too symmetric to be human, that unmistakeable white hair, and those patrician features, which made him an almost hypnotising figure, which, when combined with his natural charisma had given him command of a fanatically loyal force. And considering that that force seldom could decide by itself what to do, it truly was a blessing to have him in command.
- I believe Kondwani has detected the presence the Illuminated legions in this system.
The witch nodded before mumbling in a half asleep voice-A red banner will soon float in Hive Cogger, and the sons of the Maelstrom have arrived as well. But there is also a laugh in the background of the aether, foreseeing the coming of The Thirsty’s own. And a strange star can be smelled, stealing and assimilating those she comes upon, strangely vampirical yet with a life of its own, shining with a whole rainbow of blessings and curses.
-Red banners floating?The sons of the Maelstrom? The Thirsty? Smelling stars? This witch has finally gone insane, I say.
-You say many things Madoc, sadly most of them aren’t too smart.
-Keep your mouth shut pup. I trampled my way across the stars way before you were born, I was at the Siege, you know, I saw your father’s blood on his feathers.
-And what a job you and your brothers and cousins did, failing at achieving anything, even with overwhelming numerical superiority. Surely we must listen to a man capable of such strategic feats. -laughter- As for that father of mine, at least he wasn’t the one who lowered the shields of his battle barge and allowed the False Emperor to destroy him, was he?
-I said enough. The sorcerer has proved a useful tool across the years. And we
would be way better if you two employed your time in something productive instead of discussing the size of your respective fathers’ genitals.
-My lord, if I may…
-Yes Lieutenant Aksoy?
-I have some coincidences here. The Sons of the Maelstrom are, I’d bet my last credit, a reference to the Red Corsairs… Anything to add lord Solak?
-Keep going mortal, I have nothing to say about my once-brothers.
-And this red banner thing I don’t know what it is, but what we have caught on some orbital scans of Hive Clogger fits right in with other data regarding a band calling itself “The Flayed Legion”, which then, brings us to one of their cultist band’s aliases, “Brotherhood of the Red Banner”. As for The Thirsty, it's a somewhat looser connection, but as our dear sorcerer went on a binge of eldar soulstones lately… it could be a connection to the eldar name of the Dark Prince, which points us to…
-The Third.
-Yes my lord.
-Hum, all humans I’ve known have said that family meetings are horrible things. Would you adhere to that Lieutenant Feray?
-chuckle- I killed my family for a chance to get out of the slums, I doubt any meeting with them would be too happy on my side.
-Forgot about that part of your biography. But even if we manage to negotiate joint action with the our other “Enlightened” cousins, we will need a place of our own to deploy. I doubt we can keep hiding our presence for too long, and this half-collapsed hulk is hardly a space superiority vessel..
-If I may, my lord, there is a minor city isolated in an island in Luna Epsilon, apparently lacking all but the lightest of defences. We are in a dire need of supplies after a warp jump this long. And the witch - said Katida while glancing at Kondwani- says that the Warp has already started to take a hold in that moon, so it could provide us with a safe-ish base in the system.
The holo map swiftly switched to a full view of Luna Epsilon, and then to the city named Arcadis Bay.
-As you can all see, while its position doesn’t favour a combat landing, it would be vulnerable enough should we deploy in the western half of the island, Montessa, and go from there.
-Let’s see… Solak, Bevan, I want eyes down there, so start moving. Engin and Feray, get everyone prepared for deployment, we are leaving this hulk once we hear the LZ is clear. And no, Kostandin, I don’t care about your lab, pack it in any way you can. Kondwani, you know the drill, don't worry about the sacrifice victims, we'll get more, just leave them here, Madoc, I want this whole damn hull rigged with explosives. While we can’t use this as a base anymore, it will do us a last service. Aksoy, you are on babysitting duty, watch out and keep everyone from fething up. I will see you all in five hours, get working.
Levvet doesn't take his helmet off because he got hit in the face by a tyranid, and it's embarassing.
I mean it wounds his pride that a Xenos bettered him.
Also, part 2 of my intro is sorta done, and I say sorta because I'm not sure about it. It isn't bad, but I don't really feel it right. I don't know what to change, but that much dialogue just freaks me out and makes me think its not right.
But before you read it, and because that much dialogue with so little identification is one of the things I'm not sure about but can't think how to fix, a lil' charachter list.
Starring:
The Astartes with:
Asim Torosian as The Chaos Lord
Price Solak as the Strong Silent Type
Engin Vaughan as The Cheeky Bastard
and Madoc Tichaona as Grumpy Techmarine
and
The Mortals with:
Commander Mansur Bevan as the Naval Officer.
Lieutenant Rukiye Feray as the Sociopathic Army Officer.
Lieutenant Katida Aksoy as the Only Sane Person in the crew, intelligence provider and logistics person
Doctor Iestyn Kostandin as the Mad Scientist and Zombie Maker, ocasional medic.
and Eser Kondwani, The Wich, Sorcerer and maker of Warped Chaos Cookies
Spoiler:
-... A direct attack on the world’s capital with chem bombardments. That would crack the moral of the defenders instantly.
-Have you seen the anti-air defence graphs? No way I’m sending my birds in against that. We would barely cause enough damage to justify...
-What about leaving them without food? those farm-cities are vulnerable...
-We don’t have the resources nor the time to subdue this world by hunger, we should just jump in and plunder what we can, surely the Imperium will exterminate everything to make sure it isn’t “tainted”.
-No, no, no, we should sack all those ruins, ancient artifacts surely await us there.
-Enough!
All faces that seconds before were bickering around the holo-maps and the data-chips turned towards their leader.
As always, Mansur wondered if the lord, or captain, as his navy-trained mind prefered, would have been as handsome had he not been an astartes. And he always ended with the same answer. No. It was that combination of genetically architecture beauty, too symmetric to be human, that unmistakeable white hair, and those patrician features, which made him an almost hypnotising figure, which, when combined with his natural charisma had given him command of a fanatically loyal force. And considering that that force seldom could decide by itself what to do, it truly was a blessing to have him in command.
- I believe Kondwani has detected the presence the Illuminated legions in this system.
The witch nodded before mumbling in a half asleep voice-A red banner will soon float in Hive Cogger, and the sons of the Maelstrom have arrived as well. But there is also a laugh in the background of the aether, foreseeing the coming of The Thirsty’s own. And a strange star can be smelled, stealing and assimilating those she comes upon, strangely vampirical yet with a life of its own, shining with a whole rainbow of blessings and curses.
-Red banners floating?The sons of the Maelstrom? The Thirsty? Smelling stars? This witch has finally gone insane, I say.
-You say many things Madoc, sadly most of them aren’t too smart.
-Keep your mouth shut pup. I trampled my way across the stars way before you were born, I was at the Siege, you know, I saw your father’s blood on his feathers.
-And what a job you and your brothers and cousins did, failing at achieving anything, even with overwhelming numerical superiority. Surely we must listen to a man capable of such strategic feats. -laughter- As for that father of mine, at least he wasn’t the one who lowered the shields of his battle barge and allowed the False Emperor to destroy him, was he?
-I said enough. The sorcerer has proved a useful tool across the years. And we
would be way better if you two employed your time in something productive instead of discussing the size of your respective fathers’ genitals.
-My lord, if I may…
-Yes Lieutenant Aksoy?
-I have some coincidences here. The Sons of the Maelstrom are, I’d bet my last credit, a reference to the Red Corsairs… Anything to add lord Solak?
-Keep going mortal, I have nothing to say about my once-brothers.
-And this red banner thing I don’t know what it is, but what we have caught on some orbital scans of Hive Clogger fits right in with other data regarding a band calling itself “The Flayed Legion”, which then, brings us to one of their cultist band’s aliases, “Brotherhood of the Red Banner”. As for The Thirsty, it's a somewhat looser connection, but as our dear sorcerer went on a binge of eldar soulstones lately… it could be a connection to the eldar name of the Dark Prince, which points us to…
-The Third.
-Yes my lord.
-Hum, all humans I’ve known have said that family meetings are horrible things. Would you adhere to that Lieutenant Feray?
-chuckle- I killed my family for a chance to get out of the slums, I doubt any meeting with them would be too happy on my side.
-Forgot about that part of your biography. But even if we manage to negotiate joint action with the our other “Enlightened” cousins, we will need a place of our own to deploy. I doubt we can keep hiding our presence for too long, and this half-collapsed hulk is hardly a space superiority vessel..
-If I may, my lord, there is a minor city isolated in an island in Luna Epsilon, apparently lacking all but the lightest of defences. We are in a dire need of supplies after a warp jump this long. And the witch - said Katida while glancing at Kondwani- says that the Warp has already started to take a hold in that moon, so it could provide us with a safe-ish base in the system.
The holo map swiftly switched to a full view of Luna Epsilon, and then to the city named Arcadis Bay.
-As you can all see, while its position doesn’t favour a combat landing, it would be vulnerable enough should we deploy in the western half of the island, Montessa, and go from there.
-Let’s see… Solak, Bevan, I want eyes down there, so start moving. Engin and Feray, get everyone prepared for deployment, we are leaving this hulk once we hear the LZ is clear. And no, Kostandin, I don’t care about your lab, pack it in any way you can. Kondwani, you know the drill, don't worry about the sacrifice victims, we'll get more, just leave them here, Madoc, I want this whole damn hull rigged with explosives. While we can’t use this as a base anymore, it will do us a last service. Aksoy, you are on babysitting duty, watch out and keep everyone from fething up. I will see you all in five hours, get working.
I'd hate to nit pick, but can you indicate who is talking and maybe make it so your story elements don't look like a script?
No, I said that my half-crazy eldar-soulstone-binge-eater sorceress can smell metaphoric vampirical living stars that shine with a rainbow of curses and blessings.
Because warp stuff. And drugs. Mainly drugs.
I mean, Madoc is about as WTF as you, and he's been seeing all kinds of wacky warp shennaningans since the Heresy, so I guess its more drugs than psyker BS.
I could've said "yeah, the special operations company of the bood ravens is going to mount a false flag operation of system-wide robbery", but it sounded a bit too specific. And way more insulting.
aldo wrote: No, I said that my half-crazy eldar-soulstone-binge-eater sorceress can smell metaphoric vampirical living stars that shine with a rainbow of curses and blessings.
Because warp stuff. And drugs. Mainly drugs.
I mean, Madoc is about as WTF as you, and he's been seeing all kinds of wacky warp shennaningans since the Heresy, so I guess its more drugs than psyker BS.
I could've said "yeah, the special operations company of the bood ravens is going to mount a false flag system-wide robbery", but it sounded a bit too specific. And way more insulting.
Do I need to worry about your forces going after my Eldar? We have soulstones
Are you going to try and kill my guys?
In case you are not, are you going to stop me from leaving this system lifeless?
And finally. are you alive and free of Chaos?
If any box checks as yes, bad luck, this is the Purge, they are like oldcrons but with space marines and without C'tans (and rabble, lots of cultist rabble).
War Kitten wrote: He's going to be very used to being bettered by Xenos by the time my Eldar are done with him...
I thought you didn't want to play with my EC.
And my dudes have a weird code of conduct. They're pretty early on Heresy wise so don't like stacked odds. They won't join a fight if it looks like two halves can already handle themselves. Likewise they will up sticks and leave if they've been tricked into something with poor odds.
They like proving themselves, the prize and the victory isn't so much the point.
Well, as I said, the Purge wants to kill everyone, so, yes, you are on the list. But its Torosian who decides the grand strategy, which means you should be safe unless you pose the greatest threat/there are no other threats areound/I feel like harming you.
The witch eating soulstones was just a way of
1) having the possibility of having her go all Shornaal at some point
and 2) giving you an (even bigger) excuse to want to kill me
EDIT: Ok, I think I made clear who is talking every time, minus the starting bitching which doesn't actually matter as the idea is they are all talking at the same time.
Spoiler:
-... A direct attack on the world’s capital with chem bombardments. That would crack the moral of the defenders instantly.
-Have you seen the anti-air defence graphs? No way I’m sending my birds in against that. We would barely cause enough damage to justify...
-What about leaving them without food? those farm-cities are vulnerable...
-We don’t have the resources nor the time to subdue this world by hunger, we should just jump in and plunder what we can, surely the Imperium will exterminate everything to make sure it isn’t “tainted”.
-No, no, no, we should sack all those ruins, ancient artifacts surely await us there.
-Enough!
All the faces that seconds before were bickering around the holo-maps and the data-chips turned towards their leader.
As always, Mansur wondered if the lord, or captain, as his navy-trained mind prefered, would have been as handsome had he not been an astartes. And he always ended with the same answer. No. It was that combination of genetically architecture beauty, too symmetric to be human, that unmistakeable white hair, and those patrician features, which made him an almost hypnotising figure, which, when combined with his natural charisma had given him command of a fanatically loyal force. And considering that that force seldom could decide by itself what to do, it truly was a blessing to have him in command.
With a waving towards the warband’s sorceress the lord spoke - I believe Kondwani has detected the presence of other Illuminated legions in this system.
The witch nodded before mumbling in a half asleep voice-A red banner will soon float in Hive Cogger, and the sons of the Maelstrom have arrived as well. But there is also a laugh in the background of the aether, foreseeing the coming of The Thirsty’s own. And a strange star can be smelled, stealing and assimilating those she comes upon, strangely vampirical yet with a life of its own, shining with a whole rainbow of blessings and curses.
Flaying his servo arms and forcing those around him to duck for cover Madoc imploded-Red banners floating?!The sons of the Maelstrom?! The Thirsty?! Smelling stars?! This witch has finally gone insane, I say.
-You say many things Madoc, sadly most of them aren’t too smart.-replied Vaughan, always ready to poke the older marine
-Keep your mouth shut pup. I trampled my way across the stars way before you were born, I was at the Siege, you know, I saw your father’s blood on his feathers.-
A grin full of scorn appeared in Macaon Tichaona’s ravaged and half bionic face.
-And what a job you and your brothers and cousins did, failing at achieving anything, even with overwhelming numerical superiority. Surely we must listen to a man capable of such strategic feats. -laughter- As for that father of mine, at least he wasn’t the one who lowered the shields of his battle barge and allowed the False Emperor to destroy him, was he?- Parried the ex-blood angel.
-I said enough! The sorcerer has proved a useful tool across the years. And we would be way better if you two employed your time in something productive instead of discussing the size of your respective fathers’ genitals. As always, the Lord’s wrath put an end to the discussion.
And then a mortal voice asked-My lord, if I may…
-Yes Lieutenant Aksoy?
The Lieutenant looked at her datapad-I have some coincidences here. The Sons of the Maelstrom are, I’d bet my last credit, a reference to the Red Corsairs… Anything to add lord Solak?
The marine quickly hid his shock beyond a poker face that revealed absolutely nothing -Keep going mortal, I have nothing to say about my once-brothers.
-And this red banner thing, I don’t know what it is, but what we have caught on some orbital scans of Hive Clogger fits right in with other data regarding a band calling itself “The Flayed Legion”, which then, brings us to one of their cultist band’s aliases, “Brotherhood of the Red Banner”. As for The Thirsty, it's a somewhat looser connection, but as our dear sorcerer went on a binge of eldar soulstones lately… it could be a connection to the eldar name of the Dark Prince, which points us to…
The Lord cut her-The Third.
-Yes my lord.
-Hum, all humans I’ve known have said that family meetings are horrible things. Would you adhere to that Lieutenant Feray?
The aforementioned chuckled- I killed my family for a chance to get out of the slums, sir, I doubt any meeting with them would be too happy on my side.
-Forgot about that part of your biography. But even if we manage to negotiate joint action with the our other “Enlightened” cousins, we will need a place of our own to deploy. I doubt we can keep hiding our presence for too long, and this half-collapsed hulk is hardly a space superiority vessel...
-If I may, my lord, there is a minor city isolated in an island in Luna Epsilon, apparently lacking all but the lightest of defences. We are in a dire need of supplies after a warp jump this long. And the witch - said Katida while glancing at Kondwani- says that the Warp has already started to take a hold in that moon, so it could provide us with a safe-ish base in the system.
Katida quickly switched the system-wide holomap to a full view of Luna Epsilon, and then to the city named Arcadis Bay.
-As you can all see, while its position doesn’t favour a combat landing, it would be vulnerable enough should we deploy in the western half of the island, Montessa, and go from there.
Torosian started spinning the map-Possible… And its not like we do have any better target to hit for supplies. Solak, Bevan, I want eyes and a couple of birds down there, so start moving. Engin and Feray, get everyone prepared for deployment, we are leaving this hulk once we hear the LZ is clear. And no, Kostandin, I don’t care about your lab, pack it in any way you can. Kondwani, you know the drill, Madoc, I want this whole damn hull rigged with explosives. While we can’t use this as a base anymore, it will do us a last service. Aksoy, you are on babysitting duty, watch out and keep everyone from fething up. I will see you all in five hours, get working.
Work on Knight Intro Part Two has begun. Expect to see it sometime in the next few days. If any of y'all have any requests for what you want your leaders to say/do then PM me.
I'm holding off on the second part of my Eldar intro till I see what characters die during COF 1, that'll influence both my end post for Eldar in COF 1, and intro part two in COF 2
I can start writing that up though, given how many "new" factions are making an appearance. I'll hold off on writing about your Scions, and the other COF 1 factions/characters that are making an appearance, but I can write up about the others.
I had an idea for my intro but I want to see what you people think.
Carcharodons are known for showing up out of nowhere unannounced and flying straight into the slaughter.
So maybe there is a small-ish skirmish going on involving the present Imperial forces and some feral Orks.
Then in the middle of the battle my guys drop pod/teleport into the middle of the enemy and start slaughtering.
After the battle Taranis meets the Imperial leaders present then moves on to set up camp.
Would this be ok? Or should I have them show up like normal people and be polite to everyone?
Here's a piece of my Carcharodons intro. You'll have to wait until the Crusade to see the rest
Spoiler:
=====The Agrona===== Taranis sat in his chambers on his Battle Barge, the Agrona, and looked out the window. He peered for hours into the outer darkness that had sheltered them for the last week while they had destroyed the resistance of a renegade colony. They had slaughtered 9 billion souls to purge their taint. They were not the enemy he was hoping to find, but he would gladly carve a bloody path through the galaxy to find the Eldar that damned him to silence. He removed his helmet reluctantly and slowly traced his hand over the marred flesh that was his throat. He stood and looked into his mirror, he looked over every scar on his face and recalled every battle. He looked at the tattoos covering his body and remembered the slaughter they provided. His gaze finally fixed on his own black eyes, they matched the robes he was wearing, both a reminder of what lay outside the window. There was a sudden wrap on the door, Taranis put his helmet back on before moving to the door and opening it. A serf was standing their and eyeing Taranis almost as if he were challenging him. The serf spoke with more resolve than most, “My Lord, there is an astropathic message for you.” The serf’s resolve seemed to diminish over the next few words, “It is from Lord Tyberos, my Lord.” Taranis looked the serf in the eyes and started to communicate with him via psychic connection. “I shall head to the astropath, have Exitar meet me there.” His voice seemed to come from everywhere and nowhere and it was soft, much softer than a normal marine. Such was an affliction of the Carcharodons. Taranis made his way to the ship’s astropath, curious to see why Tyberos had contacted them, perhaps to congratulate them for the slaughter? He walked through the door and was met with the enchained psyker already staring at him. He preferred to speak with him, he was accustomed to psychic communication. “Tyberos sent a message?” “Yes Lord Taranis, that is correct.” “What did he say?” “He has good news, the Eldar of Craftworld Iybraesil and their Farseer leader have been spotted in a small system.” Taranis’ blood boiled and his brow furrowed at the words. “It is the Crion System, he has given you his blessing to hunt and slaughter them.” The door leading to the room opened and in strode a hulking brute of a man, Exitar, the company’s Chaplain. “What is it Taranis?” Taranis turned and looked Exitar in the eyes, their minds becoming one, “Tyberos has sent us a message. the Eldar of Iybraesil and the Farseer witch have been spotted. I want you to rally the men, stir their anger so we may slaughter them.” “Yes, my Lord…” and with that, Exitar turned starting singing litanies of slaughter. Taranis headed to the bridge and set a course for the Crion system. They would wait in the dark until they found conflict ripe for slaughter.
Kharne the Befriender wrote: Here's a piece of my Carcharodons intro. You'll have to wait until the Crusade to see the rest
Spoiler:
=====The Agrona=====
Taranis sat in his chambers on his Battle Barge, the Agrona, and looked out the window. He peered for hours into the outer darkness that had sheltered them for the last week while they had destroyed the resistance of a renegade colony. They had slaughtered 9 billion souls to purge their taint. They were not the enemy he was hoping to find, but he would gladly carve a bloody path through the galaxy to find the Eldar that damned him to silence. He removed his helmet reluctantly and slowly traced his hand over the marred flesh that was his throat. He stood and looked into his mirror, he looked over every scar on his face and recalled every battle. He looked at the tattoos covering his body and remembered the slaughter they provided. His gaze finally fixed on his own black eyes, they matched the robes he was wearing, both a reminder of what lay outside the window. There was a sudden wrap on the door, Taranis put his helmet back on before moving to the door and opening it. A serf was standing their and eyeing Taranis almost as if he were challenging him. The serf spoke with more resolve than most, “My Lord, there is an astropathic message for you.” The serf’s resolve seemed to diminish over the next few words, “It is from Lord Tyberos, my Lord.” Taranis looked the serf in the eyes and started to communicate with him via psychic connection. “I shall head to the astropath, have Exitar meet me there.” His voice seemed to come from everywhere and nowhere and it was soft, much softer than a normal marine. Such was an affliction of the Carcharodons. Taranis made his way to the ship’s astropath, curious to see why Tyberos had contacted them, perhaps to congratulate them for the slaughter? He walked through the door and was met with the enchained psyker already staring at him. He preferred to speak with him, he was accustomed to psychic communication. “Tyberos sent a message?” “Yes Lord Taranis, that is correct.” “What did he say?” “He has good news, the Eldar of Craftworld Iybraesil and their Farseer leader have been spotted in a small system.” Taranis’ blood boiled and his brow furrowed at the words. “It is the Crion System, he has given you his blessing to hunt and slaughter them.” The door leading to the room opened and in strode a hulking brute of a man, Exitar, the company’s Chaplain. “What is it Taranis?” Taranis turned and looked Exitar in the eyes, their minds becoming one, “Tyberos has sent us a message. the Eldar of Iybraesil and the Farseer witch have been spotted. I want you to rally the men, stir their anger so we may slaughter them.” “Yes, my Lord…” and with that, Exitar turned starting singing litanies of slaughter. Taranis headed to the bridge and set a course for the Crion system. They would wait in the dark until they found conflict ripe for slaughter.
War Kitten wrote: Oh boy, I not only angered the Space Sharks, but a Librarian to! Maybe I shouldn't have stabbed him in the throat...
Here's what the Carcharodons psychic powers are:
From the Depths - The Carcharodon Librarian clouds the minds of his adversaries with a choking mental darkness, amplifying their fear and surprise so that it paralyses them. Their minds writhe with images of watery depths of numbing cold and writhing pelagic shapes, leaving them vulnerable to assault.
Rending Maw - The Librarian calls forth the avatar of a great oceanic predator whose maw erupts from the very ground beneath the enemy. The very stones and earth reform into the shape of jaws and teeth that snap shut, consuming all within in a shower of gore. *Blood for the Blood God*
Kharne the Befriender wrote: *Calgar removes a Chaos Terminators helmet*
"Old man Abbadon?"
"I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you Ultra Marines"
Actually, I have a question? Can notTyberos communicate with a Blank or Pariah? Seeing as he only communicates via psychic potential, can he not issue commands or speak to those who are not psychic?
Also, how high of a tier psyker is he? (Alpha, Gamma, Delta, so on)
War Kitten wrote: I just realized that the only people deploying on the planet (so far at least) appears to be me and 2BJ1. We claim this planet for the xenos!
Xeno master race indeed. I'm deploying on Kalhoon on the main planet.
War Kitten wrote: I just realized that the only people deploying on the planet (so far at least) appears to be me and 2BJ1. We claim this planet for the xenos!
War Kitten wrote: I just realized that the only people deploying on the planet (so far at least) appears to be me and 2BJ1. We claim this planet for the xenos!
Ahem. Admech are deploying, fella.
Ah, but you like xeno tech so much you're considered an honorary xeno. So it is still xeno territory!
aldo wrote:Smudge's Tau are apparently deploying there too, and some Tyranids.
So its like, Moon 2 is all chaos (because Kharne's necrons are pansies), Moon 1 is full of Imperials and Crion itself is a Xenos Disneyland resort.
Sgt_Smudge wrote: Actually, I have a question? Can notTyberos communicate with a Blank or Pariah? Seeing as he only communicates via psychic potential, can he not issue commands or speak to those who are not psychic?
Also, how high of a tier psyker is he? (Alpha, Gamma, Delta, so on)
Sgt_Smudge wrote: Actually, I have a question? Can notTyberos communicate with a Blank or Pariah? Seeing as he only communicates via psychic potential, can he not issue commands or speak to those who are not psychic?
Also, how high of a tier psyker is he? (Alpha, Gamma, Delta, so on)
I sense plot issues inbound.
It's just a general question. I mean, it's not exactly an effective method of communication, and there should be necessary downsides to doing it. Otherwise, why wouldn't every psyker do it?
I was going to wait to mention this, as a trick up my sleeve of sorts, but it would be far too problematic to hide this. I was thinking about having a Kroot character be a blank, to add a bit more power to my relatively weak faction. I don't plan on bringing knarlocs, so I felt that this helped balance things a little. This character also wouldn't show up at meetings or anything of the like, and try to hide this about himself to outsiders. The character, Meenos, is a bit of a lone wolf type figure anyway, so it's not like he would be upset at sitting out on a few meetings with the gue'la.
Well, you guys created Slaanesh, and your damned scatterbikes, jinx saves and Eldrad trolling people, are quite annoying. Didn't your damned PR department tell you that noone out there liked that kind of things?
(and I have never played 40k, so I don't know what this jinxing scatterbikes are all about, but I remember some raging in the internet about those)
aldo wrote: Well, you guys created Slaanesh, and your damned scatterbikes, jinx saves and Eldrad trolling people, are quite annoying. Didn't your damned PR department tell you that noone out there liked that kind of things?
(and I have never played 40k, so I don't know what this jinxing scatterbikes are all about, but I remember some raging in the internet about those)
Our PR department only cares about making the Eldar happy. So they've done quite well and made us happy. And Eldrad's been trolling for 10k years, you'd think you guys would be used to it by now
aldo wrote: Well, you guys created Slaanesh, and your damned scatterbikes, jinx saves and Eldrad trolling people, are quite annoying. Didn't your damned PR department tell you that noone out there liked that kind of things?
(and I have never played 40k, so I don't know what this jinxing scatterbikes are all about, but I remember some raging in the internet about those)
Jinking*
Its when you "swerve" out of the way of an attack. It grants a 4+ cover save
Hey now, the Kroot aren't picking fights from the start. And they aren't savages, but they do look like it. They do actually have warp capable ships, but they regressed in tech because the last time they tried being an empire they got curb stomped by orks.
Sgt_Smudge wrote: Actually, I have a question? Can notTyberos communicate with a Blank or Pariah? Seeing as he only communicates via psychic potential, can he not issue commands or speak to those who are not psychic?
Also, how high of a tier psyker is he? (Alpha, Gamma, Delta, so on)
In The Emperor's Gift there was a Grey Knight justicar who was mute but communicated with his squad mentally, however in the presence of a pariah he was incapable of telepathic speech, so I guess that would be an issue.
Sgt_Smudge wrote:Actually, I have a question? Can notTyberos communicate with a Blank or Pariah? Seeing as he only communicates via psychic potential, can he not issue commands or speak to those who are not psychic?
Also, how high of a tier psyker is he? (Alpha, Gamma, Delta, so on)
I'm pretty sur that Psykers can communicate with non-Psykers, am I wrong? Even so, his helmet has a Psi-active vox.
And he'd be like Mastery level 4
War Kitten wrote:I just realized that the only people deploying on the planet (so far at least) appears to be me and 2BJ1. We claim this planet for the xenos!
I'm glad people are on board with Meenos. Also, WK, my Kroot aren't going to be some sort of Eldar head hunters, so you won't be completely friendless. I'd offer to be a bridge between the Imperials and Eldar, but 90% of the Imperials would just tune out why the Kroot have to say. And they're lucky that they'd just be tuning it out.
So I had some stuff written up for the last crusade (Smudge and Rob's) that never got posted due to better ideas or lack of creativity or something someone else posted, etc. Thought I would just throw it out there as unofficial WIPs
First piece is about a strike team that was sent to Gallor Prime to plant a beacon on some obscure bridge so the NO fleet could destroy it and stop some Ork war machines from reaching whatever hive the NO were guarding.
Spoiler:
://Vox transmission in progress...//
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:/ This is the New Order, Veteran Squad designation Tau-Epsilon 473, "Hand of Judgement," We request immediate reinforcements-
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://Vox connection terminated at source
Veteran Sergeant Delarus leaps over the wreckage of a smoldering rhino and slides to Veteran Larr's position. Larr is sprawled out on the ground, blood pouring from a hole in his chest. He vainly tries to reach the big-shoota he'd looted. Delarus stops him and helps him to a sitting position behind a barricade.
"You've seen better days, Brother" Larr coughs, pulling out his bolt pistol and shooting a flanking ork in the head.
"Just shut up Larr and wait for the Hospitaller" Delarus replies, taking Larr's pistol in exchange for Delarus' storm bolter. "Wait, Larr."
Delarus stands up and draws his pistol to accompany the other one. Advancing orks are cut down by the mass reactive hail Delarus pours at them. Behind the sergeant approaches a Sister Hospitaller and Judge Grejer. Grejer sprints to the sergeants position, spewing his acid litanies and mauling down orks with his crosius-hammer. In the distance, Stompas and deff-dreads make their way towards the bridge. Grejer curses and smashes a meganob's skull into the ground.
"The putrid Xenos bring their demented Titans to secure this lowly bridge. Where is our reinforcements, Sergeant?" Grejer curses, spinning his hammer around to knock a top-heavy Killakan off the bridge, sending the greenskin into the jagged ravine below.
"A bloody artiller strike pulped our long range vox, Judge, we need to fall back and initiate plan B" Delarus replies, noting the Dead Man's click of his pistols before tossing them and looting a shoota from a nearby dead ork. The Judge gives Delarus a skull faced glare before moving to help Larr. Delarus lays down a wave of suppressive fire before falling back.
"Its really not that bad, Sister" Delarus chuckles as Sister Shal fills his chest wound with foam sealant. She rolls her eyes.
"Keep talking like that, Larr, and I'll tell High Court to put you in a dreadnaught," she retorts in full humour. Grejer strides over and lets loose a few bolt rounds into the cautious ork horde. Shal moves quickly to let Grejer help Larr up.
"We are scuttling this operation, Shal, fall back and tell our brothers to bring the Stormraven to LZ Alpha" the Judge told the Hospitaller with a solemn glance. Without a moment's hesitation, she takes off running. "Vox chatter says the crusade on this planet is almost through... High Council instructed me to ensure this bridge never lest the Greenskin gain another foothold and prolong our efforts."
Larr chuckles behind his beak faced helm, "High Council wants you to orbital the place? How original."
Grejer unclasps his skull helmet and mag-locks it to his belt. His demeanor is as formidable as his death mask, "Close, see the ork dread legion bearing down on is right now? In, give or take a few minutes, will be gone within half an hour with the assumption you can hall your broken arse half a click to the LZ. Plan is, we lure the xenos bastards to the end of the bridge and bam, drop a vortex bomb."
At this point in Larr's gawking, he was going to interject till the Judge cut him off, "I mean drop in the most literal sense, Larr."
Larr used his stormbolter as a crutch to help lift himself up before turning the Judge, almost giggling, "First, our Templar fathers use their battle cruiser as a weapon and now we use our Drop Pods? By the Emperor's holy beard, Grejer, the times have changed"
With those words said and the massive army charging at them, Grejer and Larr made haste after Shal and Delarus. No one wanted to be on the bridge when hell broke loose, literally.
The second part was about a deathwatch kill team I thought about bringing in, but they didn't make the cut over the NO. This one is unfinished, but I plan to finish it eventually as a short story or something.
Spoiler:
"The Emperor is my shield and my hammer... with his I shall smite my foes.."
Helmet clasps engage and locks a skull faced visage in place. With mighty power-armour servos, the chaplain manages to turn the black bulk of his MkIII armour to his brothers. The closest brother is a scion of Guilliman. His right pauldron depicts a white half skull with an obsidian coloured "U" on its forehead. The skull is set on a canvas of crimson. His opposite pauldron displays the prominent "I" of the Inquisition in fine silver to match the rest of his arm.
"Last minute prayers, Watch-Chaplain?" the Patriarch of Ulixis grins. A fine network of scars stitch across his face like an intricate tattoo.
"They never stop, Brother," the humourless Chaplain replies, his cold voice amplified by his even colder vox unit. "Have you heard from Brother Manual? Has he returned from his solitude?"
"Brother Manual is here, Lord Chaplain" a vox broken voice answers. From the shadows of the hallway emerges a massive Astartes, one who would dwarf his power armoured brothers while he wore none. He wears the bleak onyx and silver of the Deathwatch chapter while his right pauldron bears the mark of the Crimson Fists.
"The prodigal Son of Dorn returns at last!" Krellar, the Patriarch jokes, filling the Armatorium with the laughs of his Battle-Brothers. Manual walks past him and to his respective arming space and begins the Rite of Mechanisms to pacify his weapon's machine spirit. Krellar gives Manual a smug, toothful, grin and begins the same Rite on his own weapon. The other two Space marines eye the chaplain before resuming their work.
"Brother Krellar's insults bring not but a lack of brotherhood..." one whispers to the other, careful not to draw the attention of the chaplain. The chaplain exits the room briefly to speak out of sight of his Brothers with a bulky figure that has been looming there since Manual's recent arrival.
"Indeed. Brings memories of Lukas the Trickster on Fenris, Krellar does..." the other replies hastily, hauling his heavy bolter unto a work bench to finish his calibrations. He fits a long-range scope to the top and replaces the snub nosed barrel with a significantly longer one.
Kharne the Befriender wrote: Here's a piece of my Carcharodons intro. You'll have to wait until the Crusade to see the rest
Spoiler:
=====The Agrona=====
Taranis sat in his chambers on his Battle Barge, the Agrona, and looked out the window. He peered for hours into the outer darkness that had sheltered them for the last week while they had destroyed the resistance of a renegade colony. They had slaughtered 9 billion souls to purge their taint. They were not the enemy he was hoping to find, but he would gladly carve a bloody path through the galaxy to find the Eldar that damned him to silence. He removed his helmet reluctantly and slowly traced his hand over the marred flesh that was his throat. He stood and looked into his mirror, he looked over every scar on his face and recalled every battle. He looked at the tattoos covering his body and remembered the slaughter they provided. His gaze finally fixed on his own black eyes, they matched the robes he was wearing, both a reminder of what lay outside the window. There was a sudden wrap on the door, Taranis put his helmet back on before moving to the door and opening it. A serf was standing their and eyeing Taranis almost as if he were challenging him. The serf spoke with more resolve than most, “My Lord, there is an astropathic message for you.” The serf’s resolve seemed to diminish over the next few words, “It is from Lord Tyberos, my Lord.” Taranis looked the serf in the eyes and started to communicate with him via psychic connection. “I shall head to the astropath, have Exitar meet me there.” His voice seemed to come from everywhere and nowhere and it was soft, much softer than a normal marine. Such was an affliction of the Carcharodons. Taranis made his way to the ship’s astropath, curious to see why Tyberos had contacted them, perhaps to congratulate them for the slaughter? He walked through the door and was met with the enchained psyker already staring at him. He preferred to speak with him, he was accustomed to psychic communication. “Tyberos sent a message?” “Yes Lord Taranis, that is correct.” “What did he say?” “He has good news, the Eldar of Craftworld Iybraesil and their Farseer leader have been spotted in a small system.” Taranis’ blood boiled and his brow furrowed at the words. “It is the Crion System, he has given you his blessing to hunt and slaughter them.” The door leading to the room opened and in strode a hulking brute of a man, Exitar, the company’s Chaplain. “What is it Taranis?” Taranis turned and looked Exitar in the eyes, their minds becoming one, “Tyberos has sent us a message. the Eldar of Iybraesil and the Farseer witch have been spotted. I want you to rally the men, stir their anger so we may slaughter them.” “Yes, my Lord…” and with that, Exitar turned starting singing litanies of slaughter. Taranis headed to the bridge and set a course for the Crion system. They would wait in the dark until they found conflict ripe for slaughter.
2) Haven't we already deduced that the trees are tainted by the warp in some way? IE they can repeat the scene from the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy gets pelted with apples, but only much worse?
So I'll just bomb out a small area for a base. Simple as that.
Nice writing, I like the Deathwatch bit a lot.
One does not simple bomb the trees.
Explain to me why I can't blow out a simple area for a fire base. If this is the planetary map then these regions are at least a hundred miles wide. If this is just an area of the planet then there is still enough are for me to blow up some trees and build a firebase.
TheEyeOfNight wrote:
Kharne the Befriender wrote: Here's a piece of my Carcharodons intro. You'll have to wait until the Crusade to see the rest
Spoiler:
=====The Agrona===== Taranis sat in his chambers on his Battle Barge, the Agrona, and looked out the window. He peered for hours into the outer darkness that had sheltered them for the last week while they had destroyed the resistance of a renegade colony. They had slaughtered 9 billion souls to purge their taint. They were not the enemy he was hoping to find, but he would gladly carve a bloody path through the galaxy to find the Eldar that damned him to silence. He removed his helmet reluctantly and slowly traced his hand over the marred flesh that was his throat. He stood and looked into his mirror, he looked over every scar on his face and recalled every battle. He looked at the tattoos covering his body and remembered the slaughter they provided. His gaze finally fixed on his own black eyes, they matched the robes he was wearing, both a reminder of what lay outside the window. There was a sudden wrap on the door, Taranis put his helmet back on before moving to the door and opening it. A serf was standing their and eyeing Taranis almost as if he were challenging him. The serf spoke with more resolve than most, “My Lord, there is an astropathic message for you.” The serf’s resolve seemed to diminish over the next few words, “It is from Lord Tyberos, my Lord.” Taranis looked the serf in the eyes and started to communicate with him via psychic connection. “I shall head to the astropath, have Exitar meet me there.” His voice seemed to come from everywhere and nowhere and it was soft, much softer than a normal marine. Such was an affliction of the Carcharodons. Taranis made his way to the ship’s astropath, curious to see why Tyberos had contacted them, perhaps to congratulate them for the slaughter? He walked through the door and was met with the enchained psyker already staring at him. He preferred to speak with him, he was accustomed to psychic communication. “Tyberos sent a message?” “Yes Lord Taranis, that is correct.” “What did he say?” “He has good news, the Eldar of Craftworld Iybraesil and their Farseer leader have been spotted in a small system.” Taranis’ blood boiled and his brow furrowed at the words. “It is the Crion System, he has given you his blessing to hunt and slaughter them.” The door leading to the room opened and in strode a hulking brute of a man, Exitar, the company’s Chaplain. “What is it Taranis?” Taranis turned and looked Exitar in the eyes, their minds becoming one, “Tyberos has sent us a message. the Eldar of Iybraesil and the Farseer witch have been spotted. I want you to rally the men, stir their anger so we may slaughter them.” “Yes, my Lord…” and with that, Exitar turned starting singing litanies of slaughter. Taranis headed to the bridge and set a course for the Crion system. They would wait in the dark until they found conflict ripe for slaughter.
2) Haven't we already deduced that the trees are tainted by the warp in some way? IE they can repeat the scene from the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy gets pelted with apples, but only much worse?
So I'll just bomb out a small area for a base. Simple as that.
Nice writing, I like the Deathwatch bit a lot.
One does not simple bomb the trees.
Explain to me why I can't blow out a simple area for a fire base. If this is the planetary map then these regions are at least a hundred miles wide. If this is just an area of the planet then there is still enough are for me to blow up some trees and build a firebase.
An agril world doesn't devolve into a death world unless there's some serious Chaos shenagagins going on, in which case it would probably be a demon world.
War Kitten wrote: An agril world doesn't devolve into a death world unless there's some serious Chaos shenagagins going on, in which case it would probably be a demon world.
Agreed, plus if this is a death world I need to re write most of my Necron intro
War Kitten wrote: An agril world doesn't devolve into a death world unless there's some serious Chaos shenagagins going on, in which case it would probably be a demon world.
Good lord, you people need to stop scrutinizing and just go along with it. You are taking all the fun out of being a GM when you ask a question then I give you the answer to which I receive a "No that's not right!"
War Kitten wrote: An agril world doesn't devolve into a death world unless there's some serious Chaos shenagagins going on, in which case it would probably be a demon world.
Good lord, you people need to stop scrutinizing and just go along with it. You are taking all the fun out of being a GM when you ask a question then I give you the answer to which I receive a "No that's not right!"
I don't know about everyone else, but if you guys communicate with us more then their wouldn't be these problems.
We are putting work into our writing already and when ever you just drop these changes on us and tell us to 'deal with it', it's frustrating because now i have to replan and re-write the several pages of my Necron intro. Why? Because you have changed the scenario without as much as asking what we, the writers, think about it.
We're not scrutinizing. You deliberately changed the type of planet the Crusade is taking place on without telling us. You told us specifically that IT WAS AN AGRI WORLD. You can't just change your mind, not tell us, and expect us to just go along with it.
War Kitten wrote: An agril world doesn't devolve into a death world unless there's some serious Chaos shenagagins going on, in which case it would probably be a demon world.
Good lord, you people need to stop scrutinizing and just go along with it. You are taking all the fun out of being a GM when you ask a question then I give you the answer to which I receive a "No that's not right!"
I don't know about everyone else, but if you guys communicate with us more then their wouldn't be these problems.
Blackjack knew it was a "death world"
We are putting work into our writing already and when ever you just drop these changes on us and tell us to 'deal with it', it's frustrating because now i have to replan and re-write the several pages of my Necron intro.
I am going to say that was a stupid move considering neither Chazz nor I had told you much about the planet nor posted any fluff information for the planet itself.
Why? Because you have changed the scenario without as much as asking what we, the writers, think about it.
War Kitten wrote: An agril world doesn't devolve into a death world unless there's some serious Chaos shenagagins going on, in which case it would probably be a demon world.
Good lord, you people need to stop scrutinizing and just go along with it. You are taking all the fun out of being a GM when you ask a question then I give you the answer to which I receive a "No that's not right!"
I don't know about everyone else, but if you guys communicate with us more then their wouldn't be these problems.
Blackjack knew it was a "death world"
Please cite the page where you mentioned that Crion is a death world.
We are putting work into our writing already and when ever you just drop these changes on us and tell us to 'deal with it', it's frustrating because now i have to replan and re-write the several pages of my Necron intro.
I am going to say that was a stupid move considering neither Chazz nor I had told you much about the planet nor posted any fluff information for the planet itself.
I think that's a pretty fething stupid thing to say TS. Are we supposed to not work on our own stuff until our oh so glorious overlords tell us it's ok?
Why? Because you have changed the scenario without as much as asking what we, the writers, think about it.
War Kitten wrote: An agril world doesn't devolve into a death world unless there's some serious Chaos shenagagins going on, in which case it would probably be a demon world.
Good lord, you people need to stop scrutinizing and just go along with it. You are taking all the fun out of being a GM when you ask a question then I give you the answer to which I receive a "No that's not right!"
I don't know about everyone else, but if you guys communicate with us more then their wouldn't be these problems.
Blackjack knew it was a "death world"
Please cite the page where you mentioned that Crion is a death world.
I didn't say it explicitly, but it was implied. There are 165 pages of this thread and trying to find where I said it would be ludicrous.
We are putting work into our writing already and when ever you just drop these changes on us and tell us to 'deal with it', it's frustrating because now i have to replan and re-write the several pages of my Necron intro.
I am going to say that was a stupid move considering neither Chazz nor I had told you much about the planet nor posted any fluff information for the planet itself.
I think that's a pretty fething stupid thing to say TS. Are we supposed to not work on our own stuff until our oh so glorious overlords tell us it's ok?
No, it actually isn't. Chazz and I are still working on the background fluff, so if you want to derail the whole crusade because you couldn't keep your writing in your pants, don't blame me.
Why? Because you have changed the scenario without as much as asking what we, the writers, think about it.
What scenerio?
The Crusade TS, the Crusade.
Considering the crusade is in a late-Alpha stage, things will change. I never said to write about the crion system or why you would go there because I have not ironned it all out with Chazz.
War Kitten wrote: On a lighter note, I'm on spring break, so I have some time to write now. Whoo.
Not about Crion...
Death world or not, I'm keeping what I wrote. Now time to finish up my Carcharodons...
Or you could not use it because the GMs don't even know the details behind Crion yet.
I thought it was a Deathworld?
Yes, but beyond the 2-3 blurbs chazz has written, there isn't a whole lot to go off of. I don't even have my bestiary/Traveller's-Guide-to-Surviving-Crion done yet
If I drop Promethium and Phosphex bombs on a sector of the forest, those tree's will die.
If those trees can withstand that I will fly my sharks straight into the Eye of Terror and slap Abaddon
AFTER I WRITE THE TRAVELLERS GUIDE DARN IT
Speaking of travelers guides I have to write up my blurb for Grulahk infiltrating WK's camp on a dingy and dueling one of his Knights.
He is not on the planet yet, Kharne. Do not make me jump through the computer screen and beat you with a radish because I will and you will not survive
If I drop Promethium and Phosphex bombs on a sector of the forest, those tree's will die.
If those trees can withstand that I will fly my sharks straight into the Eye of Terror and slap Abaddon
AFTER I WRITE THE TRAVELLERS GUIDE DARN IT
Speaking of travelers guides I have to write up my blurb for Grulahk infiltrating WK's camp on a dingy and dueling one of his Knights.
He is not on the planet yet, Kharne. Do not make me jump through the computer screen and beat you with a radish because I will and you will not survive
If I drop Promethium and Phosphex bombs on a sector of the forest, those tree's will die.
If those trees can withstand that I will fly my sharks straight into the Eye of Terror and slap Abaddon
AFTER I WRITE THE TRAVELLERS GUIDE DARN IT
Speaking of travelers guides I have to write up my blurb for Grulahk infiltrating WK's camp on a dingy and dueling one of his Knights.
He is not on the planet yet, Kharne. Do not make me jump through the computer screen and beat you with a radish because I will and you will not survive
Do it you won't
There are too many witnesses anyway. I need him alone for a few hours. It is not easy to kill a man with a vegetable
If I drop Promethium and Phosphex bombs on a sector of the forest, those tree's will die.
If those trees can withstand that I will fly my sharks straight into the Eye of Terror and slap Abaddon
AFTER I WRITE THE TRAVELLERS GUIDE DARN IT
Speaking of travelers guides I have to write up my blurb for Grulahk infiltrating WK's camp on a dingy and dueling one of his Knights.
He is not on the planet yet, Kharne. Do not make me jump through the computer screen and beat you with a radish because I will and you will not survive
Do it you won't
There are too many witnesses anyway. I need him alone for a few hours. It is not easy to kill a man with a vegetable
Guys, I'm all for joking about, but I think we should at least keep this topic to at least being about CoF/CoF2 jokes.
I cannot imagine it's fun if you have an actual fic in this forum seeing it being knocked down the page repeatedly by a topic that's basically not even on subject.
Buttery Commissar wrote: Guys, I'm all for joking about, but I think we should at least keep this topic to at least being about CoF/CoF2 jokes.
I cannot imagine it's fun if you have an actual fic in this forum seeing it being knocked down the page repeatedly by a topic that's basically not even on subject.
I'm probably not going to bother to re-write my Eldar Part One Intro. There's probably some fething valley on this planet, so I'm going to keep mine as is
I think I did that already in my Eldar and Knight intro. For my Eldar it's cuz there are Necrons there, and I'll expand on that a bit in part two. For my Knights it's cuz the Space Wolves called in a debt
War Kitten wrote: I think I did that already in my Eldar and Knight intro. For my Eldar it's cuz there are Necrons there, and I'll expand on that a bit in part two. For my Knights it's cuz the Space Wolves called in a debt
But the question was, "Why?"
Its just an intro for your characters, not an explanation for why they are on Crion. I didn't mention anything about Crion in my intro.
War Kitten wrote: Then I don't think I quite get what you're asking. You're asking for why they might be involved in this whole thing? I already said why in both cases.
My question was, "Why are you mentioning Crion when I just said to introduce your characters"
I didn't mention Crion TS. I had a Ranger wandering around in a valley, when she encountered some Necrons and decided to feth off to warn the Craftworld. And I didn't mention Crion in my Knight Intro, just that they knew jack squat about their destination, but that the SW had called.
Bobthehero wrote: My Scions were given a leave, poor management on the side of the Administratum means they ended up on a semi-deathworld, then yall came to ruin it
It's the nature of an intro to a Crusade TS. We introduce both our forces and WHY they might be involved in this Crusade. It's as simple as that. I'm introducing my forces, and giving them a reason to be here, do you understand that now?
War Kitten wrote: It's the nature of an intro to a Crusade TS. We introduce both our forces and WHY they might be involved in this Crusade. It's as simple as that. I'm introducing my forces, and giving them a reason to be here, do you understand that now?
You know squat diddly about Crion besides "It was an agri world, now its a death world" and three maps...
Both of my intros have reasons I would have heard of Crion.
The EC one is for midway through the crusade so it hinges solely on there being a fight and an opportunity to entertain themselves.
The RT intro has
Oh gak wait, I didn't post it. Basically a sentence in there says the Admech want to visit due to being explorators and being curious if there is tech. There's no other motivation other than "there may be SM tech or lore left by the guys who left".
That is why I asked if there was common knowledge that there *used to* be SM there.
War Kitten wrote: It's the nature of an intro to a Crusade TS. We introduce both our forces and WHY they might be involved in this Crusade. It's as simple as that. I'm introducing my forces, and giving them a reason to be here, do you understand that now?
You know squat diddly about Crion besides "It was an agri world, now its a death world" and three maps...
For the love of God TS. IT'S AN INTRODUCTION TO THE CRUSADE. I'M GIVING A REASON FOR MY GUYS TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND INTRODUCING MY CHARACTERS! YES, WE DON'T KNOW GAK ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T CARE. I'M GIVING A REASON FOR MY FORCES TO BE IN THE FETHING SYSTEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!
This whole situation has arisen before where the GMs are working behind the scenes to create the crusade and the rest of us do something that may or may not interfere with what the GMs are doing and as such conflict is created where people get frustrated when they are asked to change their writing. And to be honest im not sure how to resolve it bar just wait for the GMs to finish. Just my two cents.
War Kitten wrote: It's the nature of an intro to a Crusade TS. We introduce both our forces and WHY they might be involved in this Crusade. It's as simple as that. I'm introducing my forces, and giving them a reason to be here, do you understand that now?
You know squat diddly about Crion besides "It was an agri world, now its a death world" and three maps...
For the love of God TS. IT'S AN INTRODUCTION TO THE CRUSADE. I'M GIVING A REASON FOR MY GUYS TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND INTRODUCING MY CHARACTERS! YES, WE DON'T KNOW GAK ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T CARE. I'M GIVING A REASON FOR MY FORCES TO BE IN THE FETHING SYSTEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Chazz and I haven't even given you a reason to be there. If its just an Agri-world that went dark, which is all you know, someone would have sent a no name Guard regiment, not Imperial Knights.
War Kitten wrote: It's the nature of an intro to a Crusade TS. We introduce both our forces and WHY they might be involved in this Crusade. It's as simple as that. I'm introducing my forces, and giving them a reason to be here, do you understand that now?
You know squat diddly about Crion besides "It was an agri world, now its a death world" and three maps...
For the love of God TS. IT'S AN INTRODUCTION TO THE CRUSADE. I'M GIVING A REASON FOR MY GUYS TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND INTRODUCING MY CHARACTERS! YES, WE DON'T KNOW GAK ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T CARE. I'M GIVING A REASON FOR MY FORCES TO BE IN THE FETHING SYSTEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!
take a deep breath buddy, writing in all caps aint gonna solve nothing.
I gave my reason in my Knight intro. The Space Wolves called and my Knights answered. Try again. And my Eldar have their own reasons for being there that have nothing to do with the world going dark
War Kitten wrote: I gave my reason in my Knight intro. The Space Wolves called and my Knights answered. Try again. And my Eldar have their own reasons for being there that have nothing to do with the world going dark
Imma flat out say it here, no one is in the system regardless if you already wrote them being there or not. Chazz and I are not done with the background.
That's the problem, we don't know feth about it. Enlighten us on what we're getting in to, and communicate like everyone has been wanting you to do, and there won't be problems. We only get information when someone comes up with an idea, and then it gets shot down "for plot reasons" and then we decipher what the plot reason is.
So far we know that it is (probably) 5 years after CoF 1, it's an agricultural death world, which changes a lot of people's ideas drastically, and some trees apparently have enough plot armor to survive phosphex bombs.
you aint alone there WK, in one sense im kinda happy. Looking back on my original introduction there are things i could have done better so im happy to give it another shot.
Tactical_Spam wrote: Chazz and I haven't even given you a reason to be there. If its just an Agri-world that went dark, which is all you know, someone would have sent a no name Guard regiment, not Imperial Knights.
I don't think you need to "give" people a reason for their faction to be involved. Surely we should be allowed to decide our force's motives for ourselves? Just sayin'.
you aint alone there WK, in one sense im kinda happy. Looking back on my original introduction there are things i could have done better so im happy to give it another shot.
I know, but Kharne and I worked hard on that intro, with my Rangers stumbling across his Crons' and rushing back to report this to the Craftworld. Part two of my intro was based (roughly) off of what I wrote in part one. To basically have it thrown out cuz "we aren't done with the background yet" is mildly irritating to say the least. Not to mention the craziness of an agri-world somehow devolving into a death world
you aint alone there WK, in one sense im kinda happy. Looking back on my original introduction there are things i could have done better so im happy to give it another shot.
I know, but Kharne and I worked hard on that intro, with my Rangers stumbling across his Crons' and rushing back to report this to the Craftworld. Part two of my intro was based (roughly) off of what I wrote in part one. To basically have it thrown out cuz "we aren't done with the background yet" is mildly irritating to say the least. Not to mention the craziness of an agri-world somehow devolving into a death world
And having you whine incessantly is extremely irritating. If you would hold your fething horses and let me and Chazz work, you wouldn't have to rewrite it.
Tactical_Spam wrote: Chazz and I haven't even given you a reason to be there. If its just an Agri-world that went dark, which is all you know, someone would have sent a no name Guard regiment, not Imperial Knights.
I don't think you need to "give" people a reason for their faction to be involved. Surely we should be allowed to decide our force's motives for ourselves? Just sayin'.
I would if you guys would let Chazz and I finish, but you are entering "railroading" territory really quick.
you aint alone there WK, in one sense im kinda happy. Looking back on my original introduction there are things i could have done better so im happy to give it another shot.
I know, but Kharne and I worked hard on that intro, with my Rangers stumbling across his Crons' and rushing back to report this to the Craftworld. Part two of my intro was based (roughly) off of what I wrote in part one. To basically have it thrown out cuz "we aren't done with the background yet" is mildly irritating to say the least. Not to mention the craziness of an agri-world somehow devolving into a death world
And having you whine incessantly is extremely irritating. If you would hold your fething horses and let me and Chazz work, you wouldn't have to rewrite it.
2BlackJack1 wrote: That's the problem, we don't know feth about it. Enlighten us on what we're getting in to, and communicate like everyone has been wanting you to do, and there won't be problems. We only get information when someone comes up with an idea, and then it gets shot down "for plot reasons" and then we decipher what the plot reason is.
So far we know that it is (probably) 5 years after CoF 1, it's an agricultural death world, which changes a lot of people's ideas drastically, and some trees apparently have enough plot armor to survive phosphex bombs.
Again, the current status of the campaign is late-Alpha. Almost everything is unofficial when it comes to Crion.
Death world vegitation can be sometimes killed but live on in roots or regrow quickly. Like evil bamboo. Or some films have plants that feed off energy from attacks via certain weapons.
Look. Death world, agri world. Who cares. We all enjoy writing and give everyone tine to sort stuff out, chill and everything will come out in the end.
Aye agri/deargworld is odd but adds a new aspect plus atudy, find its weakness in crusade you can purge it at a fast rate.
Just lets all calm down and find a solution. Between us all we can fix it.
And sorry, I know I'm not gm but calm, leya not get worked up over a story.
Well, I have no idea what just happened over here, but I know it wasn't all that good.
I think (and this is just my personal observation) the main problem is that most of us can't do anything at the moment for any of our armies. I mean, on the one hand we can't write anything for the first Crusade anymore, as it is currently ending, and on the other hand, we can't write anything for the new Crusade because every time someone does it causes problems with the plans that are being constructed behind the scenes.
We're stuck in the transitional phase between the first and second Crusade, so problems are bound to ensue. What we can do is try to keep these problems to a minimum by communicating with eachother about the current state of affairs.
So let me do so by asking a few quick questions:
A. Is it okay to start writing intro stories, or is it best to wait until more information about the system is posted? (a bit too late to ask that now, but for clarity's sake, I ask anyway)
B. How much of the system/planet has been fleshed out so far? And how much more still has to be done?
C. What information has to be sent out about our armies?
Ezra Tyrius wrote: Well, I have no idea what just happened over here, but I know it wasn't all that good.
I think (and this is just my personal observation) the main problem is that most of us can't do anything at the moment for any of our armies. I mean, on the one hand we can't write anything for the first Crusade anymore, as it is currently ending, and on the other hand, we can't write anything for the new Crusade because every time someone does it causes problems with the plans that are being constructed behind the scenes.
We're stuck in the transitional phase between the first and second Crusade, so problems are bound to ensue. What we can do is try to keep these problems to a minimum by communicating with eachother about the current state of affairs.
So let me do so by asking a few quick questions:
A. Is it okay to start writing intro stories, or is it best to wait until more information about the system is posted? (a bit too late to ask that now, but for clarity's sake, I ask anyway)
B. How much of the system/planet has been fleshed out so far? And how much more still has to be done?
C. What information has to be sent out about our armies?
A: Writing an intro is fine, but I am against including anything to do with Crion. Only write about your characters. I don't care if you make up any fighting as long as it doesn't have to do with Crion.
B: Besides the map and some general exposition Chazz wrote, there is just about nothing.
C: Nothing has been sent out. Chazz and I haven't even touched on how our own armies came to the system, much less how everyone else did.
Tactical_Spam wrote: Ok, just putting it out there, but who said when you do your intros, make sure to include why/if they were going to Crion?
Nobody said not to, and it's a natural thing to do.
Introduce your characters
Introduce
Intro
I said nothing about Crion, Chazz said nothing about Crion, Smudge said nothing about Crion and I don't think you did either...
This situation can go with the analogy of people playing dungeons and dragons and when the GM says, "There's a town up ahead"
somebody says "Oh, my character was already there"
"I haven't even said anything about the town..."
"Yeah, but I already had a confrontation in my head and its too good to not use"
"But I haven't said anything about the town..."
"Ok, but I am still going to use this confrontation I came up with."
Woah, I haven't had any more of a say in this campaign than any other player. But it is logical to assume that a campaign set on the world might actually feature said world in the intro?
And your analogy, whilst making sense, isn't quite accurate. This would more be a case of "your character doesn't exist in the universe yet, and doesn't even exist in the country." The different provinces and fortifications would be our "towns".
Tactical_Spam wrote:
War Kitten wrote: It's the nature of an intro to a Crusade TS. We introduce both our forces and WHY they might be involved in this Crusade. It's as simple as that. I'm introducing my forces, and giving them a reason to be here, do you understand that now?
You know squat diddly about Crion besides "It was an agri world, now its a death world" and three maps...
We know it exists. And I'm fairly sure that on this planet and two moons, there MUST be a geographical location that supports the intros of these characters?
Irishpeacockz wrote:This whole situation has arisen before where the GMs are working behind the scenes to create the crusade and the rest of us do something that may or may not interfere with what the GMs are doing and as such conflict is created where people get frustrated when they are asked to change their writing. And to be honest im not sure how to resolve it bar just wait for the GMs to finish. Just my two cents.
2BlackJack1 wrote:That's the problem, we don't know feth about it. Enlighten us on what we're getting in to, and communicate like everyone has been wanting you to do, and there won't be problems. We only get information when someone comes up with an idea, and then it gets shot down "for plot reasons" and then we decipher what the plot reason is.
So far we know that it is (probably) 5 years after CoF 1, it's an agricultural death world, which changes a lot of people's ideas drastically, and some trees apparently have enough plot armor to survive phosphex bombs.
Agreed with both above points.
Tainted wrote:
Tactical_Spam wrote: Chazz and I haven't even given you a reason to be there. If its just an Agri-world that went dark, which is all you know, someone would have sent a no name Guard regiment, not Imperial Knights.
I don't think you need to "give" people a reason for their faction to be involved. Surely we should be allowed to decide our force's motives for ourselves? Just sayin'.
And VERY much agreeing here. Players choose their motives, not the GM. We know you want to make a good story, but please, build it around what the players tell you, not the other way round. The story is shaped by the players, who should in no way be railroaded and forced into a path. We make our reasons, and no-one else.
Ezra Tyrius wrote:I think (and this is just my personal observation) the main problem is that most of us can't do anything at the moment for any of our armies. I mean, on the one hand we can't write anything for the first Crusade anymore, as it is currently ending, and on the other hand, we can't write anything for the new Crusade because every time someone does it causes problems with the plans that are being constructed behind the scenes.
I'll take the blame for that part. The final section is taking it's time in being made, and I'm trying to get it all up, but it's a large job. I'm working as often as I can to get it done though, so you guys can finally move on.
Not sure how you reached your conclusion, Kharne; as far as I know, you're still free to decide where you deploy (although a few locations have been claimed by others already) and your reason for being there is still very much in your hands. The 'what I can write' part I can agree with, but as said, that's a logical result of us all having one leg in the last Crusade and another in the new one (which is still very much WiP setting-wise).
Also, @Smudge, you shouldn't feel guilty about it, I think no-one here would like you to rush the ending, and you've done a great job so far
Ezra Tyrius wrote: Not sure how you reached your conclusion, Kharne; as far as I know, you're still free to decide where you deploy (although a few locations have been claimed by others already) and your reason for being there is still very much in your hands. The 'what I can write' part I can agree with, but as said, that's a logical result of us all having one leg in the last Crusade and another in the new one (which is still very much WiP setting-wise).
Also, @Smudge, you shouldn't feel guilty about it, I think no-one here would like you to rush the ending, and you've done a great job so far
We initially limited it to one faction each, but after seeing the size of the map decided that two factions could fit. Some people still have a nice section of breathing room still, such as Evergreen's tyranids. For good reason, I suppose. Who would willingly settle next to tyranids?
While very true, my orks are going to be more focused on lootin' and tyranids don't really have stuff to make guns and vehicles with. For reasoning why they went onto the moon, I was going to say the ork boss on that section was one worth taking note of, so Gorgrim was going to krump him quick and move on from there.
2BlackJack1 wrote: While very true, my orks are going to be more focused on lootin' and tyranids don't really have stuff to make guns and vehicles with. For reasoning why they went onto the moon, I was going to say the ork boss on that section was one worth taking note of, so Gorgrim was going to krump him quick and move on from there.
Well, the prime targets for fighting on the moon is me, jhe, and Smudge. This moon is going to get very interesting very quickly
If we're insisting on keeping said area off limits, perhaps one could argue that the place isn't really valuable in comparison to the cost of bombing it and defending it against the denizens of the area, if it is indeed warp tainted. It does have a few notable features to it though, so someone might see value to it. Kharne, perhaps you could settle next to it and fight inwards, rather than plunge into the middle of it and fight outwards from all sides? The area could cause mortal men insane or something of the sort, depending on the amount of warp influence, and while marines may not be corrupted by it, their serfs and the sort might be?
2BlackJack1 wrote: If we're insisting on keeping said area off limits, perhaps one could argue that the place isn't really valuable in comparison to the cost of bombing it and defending it against the denizens of the area, if it is indeed warp tainted. It does have a few notable features to it though, so someone might see value to it. Kharne, perhaps you could settle next to it and fight inwards, rather than plunge into the middle of it and fight outwards from all sides? The area could cause mortal men insane or something of the sort, depending on the amount of warp influence, and while marines may not be corrupted by it, their serfs and the sort might be?
I am insisting on keeping that area off limits because I need to write the reasoning and I figured that I should state those locations are off limits first rather than later when people are all deployed and I basically oust them because of "plot reasons" rather than kepping them out to begin with because "plot reasons"
I hope Smudge is able to finish up part two of the ground battle relatively soon. I really want to know what happened to my other Eldar characters (as that'll influence what I have in my Eldar intro)
2BlackJack1 wrote: I suppose that that is an improvement. Now, is there a problem with invading it, if setting up shop there right away is out?
Setting up shop there. I have no problems with invading, but I would heavily recommend not camping out in the woods. Bad things happen in the woods, very bad things.
I'm not sure about Kharne, but I think that this is a fair compromise. I don't see why you'd want your base exposed to some chaos ents when you can park next to them and attack at your leisure.
Would bad things happen to a mini titan? I know my Eldar might be ok (we can just use webway portals and peace out for a while rather than camp in the woods), but my Knights aren't nearly so fortunate.
I'm fine with that. Actually, since no one objected perhaps we have feral orks attacking from there and the skirmish ensues and I drop down, slaughter, and set up next to the forest eager to purge.
War Kitten wrote: Would bad things happen to a mini titan? I know my Eldar might be ok (we can just use webway portals and peace out for a while rather than camp in the woods), but my Knights aren't nearly so fortunate.
Unless the woods follow you.
I will have you know, Chazz let me take full reign over the wild life of Crion. Prepare yourselves.
War Kitten wrote: Would bad things happen to a mini titan? I know my Eldar might be ok (we can just use webway portals and peace out for a while rather than camp in the woods), but my Knights aren't nearly so fortunate.
Unless the woods follow you.
I will have you know, Chazz let me take full reign over the wild life of Crion. Prepare yourselves.
Unless this wildlife confesses it's loyalty to the Emperor it will be purged
Like the face eater squig competition? I see how that would end well. Why don't you try this tactic on the tyranids as well? I'm sure Evergreen would be terrified to see guardsmen and marines eating all of his soldiers.
And the knight pilots? Perhaps they could fit a great maw on the front of the suits for such an occasion? Or perhaps they can get some sense and hire the Kroot to be battlefield janitors instead?
Feral orks, mutant trees and fire-breathing bunnies... Is there anything on the planet not trying to kill us? Not that I'm complaining. I love a good hunt.
Buttery Commissar wrote: Rolling back to the intro thing, who is deciding why our characters are going to Crion?
Is it just that you (TS) want us to wait and have the planet described properly, or that you want to have your own reasons for each faction?
There needs to be more communication with Chazz about what we are doing exactly, but the intros may need a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny bit of railroading (though it is tiny).
I wonder how my Eldar are going to be railroaded. My Knights go with Jhe's Wolves, so that's already settled, I'm just curious how my Elfdar will be railroaded.
Buttery Commissar wrote: Rolling back to the intro thing, who is deciding why our characters are going to Crion?
Is it just that you (TS) want us to wait and have the planet described properly, or that you want to have your own reasons for each faction?
There needs to be more communication with Chazz about what we are doing exactly, but the intros may need a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny bit of railroading (though it is tiny).
I do not think railroading is fair.
Saying "Look, I need the green marines to land on the north site and the red marines to land south, stick to that, here is the history of what you'd know." is a balance.
You or chazz giving anyone direct input on their characters motivations before the campaign even starts is very different..?
I don't see why my factions (or anyone else's) would need railroading at all. We are fully capable of coming up with introductions for our factions.
Also, please don't tell me we are going to have a set way of progression, as in we have certain guidelines and targets that our factions have to do, rather than the writers doing what they want to do with their factions. I'm a little worried about how far this plot really goes, especially when the purpose of the crusade is to allow the writers freedom to do what they want. Or attempt it, taking the rolls into account.
Buttery Commissar wrote: Rolling back to the intro thing, who is deciding why our characters are going to Crion?
Is it just that you (TS) want us to wait and have the planet described properly, or that you want to have your own reasons for each faction?
There needs to be more communication with Chazz about what we are doing exactly, but the intros may need a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny bit of railroading (though it is tiny).
I do not think railroading is fair.
Saying "Look, I need the green marines to land on the north site and the red marines to land south, stick to that, here is the history of what you'd know." is a balance.
You or chazz giving anyone direct input on their characters motivations before the campaign even starts is very different..?
It more runs along the lines towards Imperium aligned forces, but I cannot confirm anything.
2BlackJack1 wrote: I don't see why my factions (or anyone else's) would need railroading at all. We are fully capable of coming up with introductions for our factions.
Also, please don't tell me we are going to have a set way of progression, as in we have certain guidelines and targets that our factions have to do, rather than the writers doing what they want to do with their factions. I'm a little worried about how far this plot really goes, especially when the purpose of the crusade is to allow the writers freedom to do what they want. Or attempt it, taking the rolls into account.
Its a little harder to have a lot of freedom when we are all on one planet...
TS, we did have occasions on the first crusade of being on one planet, and still people had freedom. This is more in depth, sure, but it's still possible. And just how far does this plot go, I don't see why we can't just come up with the background for the planet, including wildlife and the like, and be done with it. I won't be happy if my factions already have a storyline made out for them instead of others deciding what to do with them.
2BlackJack1 wrote: TS, we did have occasions on the first crusade of being on one planet, and still people had freedom. This is more in depth, sure, but it's still possible. And just how far does this plot go, I don't see why we can't just come up with the background for the planet, including wildlife and the like, and be done with it. I won't be happy if my factions already have a storyline made out for them instead of others deciding what to do with them.
Agreed, it took me 2 hours to make the original background and everything
If you're scripting us, that isn't fun.
We didn't sign on to follow a movie plot you wrote for us, we signed on to an open ended campaign in a setting. This isn't a pen and paper RPG night.
Thats because you start a thing, tell us we can create factions and ask us to do intros and where we want to deploy, and then trickle feed us stuff we can't do.
You are making it hard for you by allowing us to put time into things we then can't use.
Plus, if you want to tell a story on rails, rather than giving mission seeds or basis for interacting, you should have told us from day one and not called it CoF2. We were expecting the same level of freedom.
Thats because you start a thing, tell us we can create factions and ask us to do intros and where we want to deploy, and then trickle feed us stuff we can't do.
You are making it hard for you by allowing us to put time into things we then can't use.
Plus, if you want to tell a story on rails, rather than giving mission seeds or basis for interacting, you should have told us from day one and not called it CoF2. We were expecting the same level of freedom.
I am not the only GM. I can only tell you so much and have you do so much before its steps into Chazz's territory, who is the mastermind behind Crion. If you want to know any more gak, ask Chazz. Imma peace out and sit on the side lines from now on when it comes to any questions.
Thats because you start a thing, tell us we can create factions and ask us to do intros and where we want to deploy, and then trickle feed us stuff we can't do.
You are making it hard for you by allowing us to put time into things we then can't use.
Plus, if you want to tell a story on rails, rather than giving mission seeds or basis for interacting, you should have told us from day one and not called it CoF2. We were expecting the same level of freedom.
I am not the only GM. I can only tell you so much and have you do so much before its steps into Chazz's territory, who is the mastermind behind Crion. If you want to know any more gak, ask Chazz. Imma peace out and sit on the side lines from now on when it comes to any questions.
Why haven't we heard from Chazz at all? I'd love to hear what he's planning.
And when the idea of CoF:2 started everything was based off writer feedback mind you
Here's my idea. We use the original background and map. (Which was my job)
It's ready to go by tomorrow at the latest
It's a large map with more to it and the story allows anyone to be here for whatever reason but also gives a good reason for forces to be there should they want to be their for that reason.
The Crion system contains 1 planet, 2 moons, and an asteroid belt.
There are 3 (or 4) Hive cities in the system as well as industrial areas, mining stations, research stations, military outposts, abandoned bases, and every type of terrain.
Recently, 1 of the Hive cities has broken ties with the Imperium and is currently renegade and is falling to Chaos.
1 Hive city is requesting assistance from the Imperium to bring itself under control.
The other 2 cities are susceptible to fall to chaos or side with the Imperium.
Every faction can choose to show up on their own accord. Your Intros are still valid. And if an Imperium or Chaos player wants to show up to help or fight the Hive cities they can.
So where will your goals be in a warring system falling into itself?
That;s what I have, any suggestions? Anything not working? Anything I should add/remove?
The Crion system contains 1 planet, 2 moons, and an asteroid belt.
There are 3 (or 4) Hive cities in the system as well as industrial areas, mining stations, research stations, military outposts, abandoned bases, and every type of terrain.
Recently, 1 of the Hive cities has broken ties with the Imperium and is currently renegade and is falling to Chaos.
1 Hive city is requesting assistance from the Imperium to bring itself under control.
The other 2 cities are susceptible to fall to chaos or side with the Imperium.
Every faction can choose to show up on their own accord. Your Intros are still valid. And if an Imperium or Chaos player wants to show up to help or fight the Hive cities they can.
So where will your goals be in a warring system falling into itself?
That;s what I have, any suggestions? Anything not working? Anything I should add/remove?
If you are going to just come up with the story for your map, why the feth am I here, Kharne?
jhe90 wrote: Let's give chazz a chance. He,s obviously been working hard. Maybe even if its only a cliff notes version to bvase any future pre crusade chunks.
im up for giving him a chance but we haven't heard from him in aw while. It seems to me that TS is trying to do his part of the process to create this campaign yet we do stuff that may conflict with some of chazz's stuff that he is doing. When that happens we ask TS questions that in my opinion i dont think he can answer, its chazz's territory and he aint around to answer them which leaves us all a bit either frustrated or confused. Again just adding my two cents.
I think the problem is lack of communication. TS and Chazz apparently aren't talking to each other at the moment, leaving TS to forge on alone, lacking half of the information he needs. That leads to us (the players) getting irritated because we don't know what's going on.
War Kitten wrote: I think the problem is lack of communication. TS and Chazz apparently aren't talking to each other at the moment, leaving TS to forge on alone, lacking half of the information he needs. That leads to us (the players) getting irritated because we don't know what's going on.
agreed communication seems to be the recurring issue here.
The Crion system contains 1 planet, 2 moons, and an asteroid belt.
There are 3 (or 4) Hive cities in the system as well as industrial areas, mining stations, research stations, military outposts, abandoned bases, and every type of terrain.
Recently, 1 of the Hive cities has broken ties with the Imperium and is currently renegade and is falling to Chaos.
1 Hive city is requesting assistance from the Imperium to bring itself under control.
The other 2 cities are susceptible to fall to chaos or side with the Imperium.
Every faction can choose to show up on their own accord. Your Intros are still valid. And if an Imperium or Chaos player wants to show up to help or fight the Hive cities they can.
So where will your goals be in a warring system falling into itself?
That;s what I have, any suggestions? Anything not working? Anything I should add/remove?
If you are going to just come up with the story for your map, why the feth am I here, Kharne?
Ok, let's get something straight. I talked to Smudge about setting up CoF:2 when I wasn't active in CoF:1. He said I could so I made the map and a background. I released the map but not the background because I didn't want to kill the Crusade. Next thing I know, you and Chazz are redoing my map, and writing a whole other story without even asking how I felt about that. I turned down the GM job to let you and Chazz do that, but the Story and map were my task, not yours.
jhe90 wrote:Let's give chazz a chance. He,s obviously been working hard. Maybe even if its only a cliff notes version to bvase any future pre crusade chunks.
The Crion system contains 1 planet, 2 moons, and an asteroid belt.
There are 3 (or 4) Hive cities in the system as well as industrial areas, mining stations, research stations, military outposts, abandoned bases, and every type of terrain.
Recently, 1 of the Hive cities has broken ties with the Imperium and is currently renegade and is falling to Chaos.
1 Hive city is requesting assistance from the Imperium to bring itself under control.
The other 2 cities are susceptible to fall to chaos or side with the Imperium.
Every faction can choose to show up on their own accord. Your Intros are still valid. And if an Imperium or Chaos player wants to show up to help or fight the Hive cities they can.
So where will your goals be in a warring system falling into itself?
That;s what I have, any suggestions? Anything not working? Anything I should add/remove?
If you are going to just come up with the story for your map, why the feth am I here, Kharne?
Ok, let's get something straight. I talked to Smudge about setting up CoF:2 when I wasn't active in CoF:1. He said I could so I made the map and a background. I released the map but not the background because I didn't want to kill the Crusade. Next thing I know, you and Chazz are redoing my map, and writing a whole other story without even asking how I felt about that. I turned down the GM job to let you and Chazz do that, but the Story and map were my task, not yours.
"Hey TS, I know you and Chazz are GM, but I really want to be in charge of fun stuff like map design and background fluff. You can do the boring stuff like go onto to a random number generator and click a button a few times. I don't see why you guys want to do the background fluff when I already did it because the GM of a different Narrative said I could."
Yeah sure, you have to generate numbers and tell people how they did. But you're also in charge of all NPC factions, like the Hive Governors, the ships in space, any event that might occur (Like the Hybrids), you also get to help drive the plot with combined actions like the Gallor Prime battle and the Hybrid attack.
It is much much more than random numbers and if you don't realize that and think that all that is worse than making a map and a simple story then I have no faith in you as a GM.
I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on only the crusade will suffer.
Irishpeacockz wrote: I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.
I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though
Irishpeacockz wrote: I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.
I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though
you mean GM, TS is pretty much on his own here, so cut him some slack. Yes there needs to be more communication between the writers the GM and hopefully when chazz returns we can shine some light on certain issues that have arisen.
Irishpeacockz wrote: I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.
I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though
you mean GM, TS is pretty much on his own here, so cut him some slack. Yes there needs to be more communication between the writers and the GMs and hopefully when chazz returns we can shine some light on certain issues that have arisen.
Since TS seems to be ignoring the PM I sent him about adding some Harlies to my Eldar, here's the general layout of the Troupe I wanted to have alongside my Warhost.
Shadowseer *insert name here*
Death Jester *insert name here*
Solitaire
10-15 Harlie Troupes (of about 6-7 players each)(plus transports)
Irishpeacockz wrote: I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.
I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though
you mean GM, TS is pretty much on his own here, so cut him some slack. Yes there needs to be more communication between the writers the GM and hopefully when chazz returns we can shine some light on certain issues that have arisen.
He shouldn't be, the fact that one of our GM's (the one apparently doing all the work) is missing 95% of the time is terrible, Smudge was on at least every other day and giving constant updates. I understand he's doing a lot of this on his own and I respect that, but he's going about it the wrong way. This Crusade is already vastly different from the last one and not in a good way.
Irishpeacockz wrote: I think both kharne and TS need to calm down. There is always a bit of friction between you guys and you need to sort this out before this crusade moves on. If this kind of tension goes on on,y the crusade will suffer.
I'm calm. I'm just stating what I believe, and the state between the writers and the GM's is already causing the Crusade to suffer. I appreciate what you're saying though
you mean GM, TS is pretty much on his own here, so cut him some slack. Yes there needs to be more communication between the writers the GM and hopefully when chazz returns we can shine some light on certain issues that have arisen.
He shouldn't be, the fact that one of our GM's (the one apparently doing all the work) is missing 95% of the time is terrible, Smudge was on at least every other day and giving constant updates. I understand he's doing a lot of this on his own and I respect that, but he's going about it the wrong way. This Crusade is already vastly different from the last one and not in a good way.
Kharne the Befriender wrote:I think this thread has seen enough arguing. What we need to do now is discuss how we are going to fix it to make this fun for everyone now.
And WK, why do I feel like your guys are going to dance around my sharks and make Neck jokes?
Kharne the Befriender wrote:I think this thread has seen enough arguing. What we need to do now is discuss how we are going to fix it to make this fun for everyone now.
And WK, why do I feel like your guys are going to dance around my sharks and make Neck jokes?
Because that was my plan?
I feel like they would just get really tired, fall down, and die because they have to move to breathe
Things are getting a little bit tense in here. I appreciate how frustrating it is not knowing what's going on at any given moment, but I think we should wait a day or two for Chazz to respond before we tear eachother to pieces over this.
Tainted wrote:Things are getting a little bit tense in here. I appreciate how frustrating it is not knowing what's going on at any given moment, but I think we should wait a day or two for Chazz to respond before we tear eachother to pieces over this.
Agreed
War Kitten wrote:I'm going to have my Harlies have their own reasons for being in this Crusade. Reasons that may or may not revolve around BC's EC
I won't call you fish man if you don't call me bird man. Also, I've been poking at my part two intro for the Kroot, but it had some setbacks when I decided to rewrite it from the start with a better idea in mind, and have it retain some chronological order. The second part focuses on the rest of the Kroot characters, while the first answered why they're coming/how they are. (I'm also looking forward to the insult competition between the Kroot and Garth)
2BlackJack1 wrote: I won't call you fish man if you don't call me bird man. Also, I've been poking at my part two intro for the Kroot, but it had some setbacks when I decided to rewrite it from the start with a better idea in mind, and have it retain some chronological order. The second part focuses on the rest of the Kroot characters, while the first answered why they're coming/how they are. (I'm also looking forward to the insult competition between the Kroot and Garth)
2BlackJack1 wrote: I won't call you fish man if you don't call me bird man. Also, I've been poking at my part two intro for the Kroot, but it had some setbacks when I decided to rewrite it from the start with a better idea in mind, and have it retain some chronological order. The second part focuses on the rest of the Kroot characters, while the first answered why they're coming/how they are. (I'm also looking forward to the insult competition between the Kroot and Garth)
Fish man and bird man sound like they could be superheroes. Its a bird! Its a plane! No, its Birdman! Along with his sidekick Fishman! Here to save the day from [Insert Name Here]!
By save the day, I'm sure you mean Fishman unloads a storm bolter into one enemy while Birdman gets into a knife fight and brings home the villain in a doggy bag.
I'm gonna say we all need to be a little more patient.
I'm a little concerned that chazz is gonna be this distant throughout. Some reassurance either way would go a long way.
But giving time to respond is also necessary.
2BlackJack1 wrote:By save the day, I'm sure you mean Fishman unloads a storm bolter into one enemy while Birdman gets into a knife fight and brings home the villain in a doggy bag.
Fishman will probably make a Khorne Berzerker blush... and Bird man can take home the leftovers after fishman gorges himself
Buttery Commissar wrote:I'm gonna say we all need to be a little more patient.
I'm a little concerned that chazz is gonna be this distant throughout. Some reassurance either way would go a long way.
But giving time to respond is also necessary.
