Warhammer: Lizardmen 96 page full colour, hardback Warhammer army book.
Contains new Artwork, Background and Rules whilst showcasing the fantastic Warhammer miniature range.
Warhammer: Lizardmen Carnosaur This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that makes one of four possible massive center-piece miniatures.
HUGE - 8 inches long by 5 inches tall
Can make an Oldblood on Carnosaur, Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur, Kroq-Gar on Carnosaur or Troglodon with Skink Oracle.
Warhammer: Lizardmen Terradon/ Ripperdactyl Riders This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that can be assemble as either 3 Terradons or 3 Ripperdactyls, flying cavalry mounts ridden by Lizardmen Skinks.
Included Parts to upgrade one Terradon rider to the special character Tiktaq'to.
Warhammer: Lizardman Bastiladon This box contains a brand new multipart plastic kit that makes a Bastiladon carrying either a Solar Engine or an Ark of Sotek.
Warhammer: Lizardman Skink Priest An addition to the popular plastic heroes Clampacks.
The Lizardman Skink Priest is adorned in feathered plumes and carries a traditional Lizardman totem.
New Finecast Releases
Warhammer: Lizardmen Gor-Rok A Clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature.
A Lizardmen Special Character particularly suited to close combat.
Warhammer: Lizardmen Tetto'eko A boxset containing one finely detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature.
A skink Priets on a Palanquin.
Any word if Chatax(sp?) the Eternity warden will be getting reworked? The mini is one of the best in the line but the rules fail him badly both in points(really badly, needs to be about 125 points cheaper) and in how they work.
Looks like t he LM are going very monster heavy, not surprising with the direction Fantasy is going(bigger and more epic). Hopefully it makes non-slaan lists more viable. For LM it feels right, for other armies not so much. Just hope with all these grand monster armies they remember some armies should have ranks of lowly foot troops too.
Okay, originally posted by pizzaguardian. Sounds completely legit. I edited this list for readability:
Warhammer: Lizardmen 96 page full colour, hardback Warhammer army book.
Contains new Artwork, Background and Rules whilst showcasing the fantastic Warhammer miniature range.
Warhammer: Lizardmen Carnosaur This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that makes one of four possible massive center-piece miniatures.
HUGE - 8 inches long by 5 inches tall
Can make an Oldblood on Carnosaur, Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur, Kroq-Gar on Carnosaur or Troglodon with Skink Oracle.
Warhammer: Lizardmen Terradon/ Ripperdactyl Riders This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that can be assemble as either 3 Terradons or 3 Ripperdactyls, flying cavalry mounts ridden by Lizardmen Skinks.
Included Parts to upgrade one Terradon rider to the special character Tiktaq'to.
Warhammer: Lizardman Bastiladon This box contains a brand new multipart plastic kit that makes a Bastiladon carrying either a Solar Engine or an Ark of Sotek.
Warhammer: Lizardman Skink Priest An addition to the popular plastic heroes Clampacks.
The Lizardman Skink Priest is adorned in feathered plumes and carries a traditional Lizardman totem.
New Finecast Releases
Warhammer: Lizardmen Gor-Rok A Clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature.
A Lizardmen Special Character particularly suited to close combat.
Warhammer: Lizardmen Tetto'eko A boxset containing one finely detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature.
A skink Priets on a Palanquin.
I just cant understand people. What is the point to post a fake thread here? Will ı gain anything?
I have information and ı just wanted to share with people. When gw introduce the new models just check them out here and than blame if you got the sense still than.
Ecarhil wrote: I just cant understand people. What is the point to post a fake thread here? Will ı gain anything?
I have information and ı just wanted to share with people. When gw introduce the new models just check them out here and than blame if you got the sense still than.
Sadly there are people out there who get all excited about the thought of tricking others into believing things, and because of that people are less likely to trust people who just pop up out of nowhere and post these kind of thread.
Welcome to Dakka and hopefully you will stay long enough for these rumours to pan out so you can scream "VINDICATED" at people.
Just for the record: This list sounds legit, copying official texts and fitting existing rumours by Hastings and Harry. Only complain would be, not to mention the original source pizzaguardian, who posted such early correct lists several times on Dakka.
Ecarhil wrote: I just cant understand people. What is the point to post a fake thread here? Will ı gain anything?
I have information and ı just wanted to share with people. When gw introduce the new models just check them out here and than blame if you got the sense still than.
Sadly there are people out there who get all excited about the thought of tricking others into believing things, and because of that people are less likely to trust people who just pop up out of nowhere and post these kind of thread.
Welcome to Dakka and hopefully you will stay long enough for these rumours to pan out so you can scream "VINDICATED" at people.
Thank you.
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Kroothawk wrote: Just for the record: This list sounds legit, copying official texts and fitting existing rumours by Hastings and Harry. Only complain would be, not to mention the original source pizzaguardian, who posted such early correct lists several times on Dakka.
I didnt see his post before ı posted this thread. I wouldnt if ı did.
Many of us thank you for the rumors. I haven't heard rumors of carnosaurs as units, but if they do, I won't be able to avoid an army of lizardmen. If there is no such unit, I will only buy a couple things for show. Like that new Carnie. He sounds wonderful... *swoons*
If true, I see a LOT of kits I'll be picking up for my Skink army.
I kinda hope they get Shortbows as an option again(though I doubt it since GW doesn't make models for it anymore). I'm not against hunting down 60 or so 5th ed javelin Skinks, it's just a pain to do.
I'm happy to hear this. The 40k release schedule has been insane this year, and I'm happy to see Fantasy get some love. Also, more cool dinosaurs can only be a good thing.
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As recent newly returned Lizardmen and Marine player, this is going to be an awesome/crazy few months to get back into the hobby.
Can't wait to see the Carnosaur, although I would have thought a Plastic Slann would have been a priority as well.
Hopefully this means GW fixed the book so that non-Slann armies are viable...or rather in the tagline of Apocalypse, take a Carnosaur "Because Bigger is Better"
Interested to see some of the rule changes/prices as well - especially in regards to the old ones. Finecast vs. Plastic Carnosaur anyone? I mean, it should be a price drop based on other large plastic kits...
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Been gaming since the mid-90s. Very familiar with silly naming conventions. Ripperdactyls just sounds lazy.
The dinosaurs in WHFB do not actually look like real dinosaurs?
Well darn. I always thought that WHFB was based on a true story...
With the sarcasm out of the way:
These rumors sound pretty good. Lizardmen are an army which can totally benefit from the "Add giant monsters" approach that GW has had lately.
Its a wonder any one new posts in these boards some times, when the immediate attitude is that your some sort of spell weaving, liar, GW sympathizer/goon, who could not possibly know anything because you post count somehow indicates how intelligent or truthful you are capably of being. I wonder , if what he post turns out to be what it the shelves, does he then have the right to come back and issue you the verbal tongue lashing you so obviously asked for? Wow, people relax.
As for the topic, I sure hope that's what we are seeing because More giant dinos rampaging across the table is exactly what I think of when I see the lizardmen army! Pretty interested in the ripperdactyls too!
Hi! You must be new here. Welcome to dakkadakka and GW! After you get your feet wet, you'll become more familiar with silly naming conventions and the humor of Warhammer and Warhammer 40k.
Been gaming since the mid-90s. Very familiar with silly naming conventions. Ripperdactyls just sounds lazy.
GW is famous for silly, lazy naming. It is just the way it is. Next we'll start shaking our fist at the sun for rising today.
I think it would be really awesome if GW would purposely not show any new pics of the new models until the very day they are released, since no one is excited to start planning to update their armies or even care about what's coming out until it's actually on the store shelves.
Necros wrote: I think it would be really awesome if GW would purposely not show any new pics of the new models until the very day they are released, since no one is excited to start planning to update their armies or even care about what's coming out until it's actually on the store shelves.
Yeah, we get it. Again, welcome to GW. They have a crazy information policy. It isn't really news though since it has been this way for quite some time. I guess we're hitting all the scheduled markers though. I think the next post will probably be complaining about how that wasn't really a trailer/teaser/etc.
Captain Vyper wrote: Its a wonder any one new posts in these boards some times, when the immediate attitude is that your some sort of spell weaving, liar, GW sympathizer/goon, who could not possibly know anything because you post count somehow indicates how intelligent or truthful you are capably of being. I wonder , if what he post turns out to be what it the shelves, does he then have the right to come back and issue you the verbal tongue lashing you so obviously asked for? Wow, people relax.
As for the topic, I sure hope that's what we are seeing because More giant dinos rampaging across the table is exactly what I think of when I see the lizardmen army! Pretty interested in the ripperdactyls too!
Thank you too. Now that the trailer is up, ı hope that people who called me liar will make an apology at least on 27.07.2013
Ecarhil wrote: Thank you too. Now that the trailer is up, ı hope that people who called me liar will make an apology at least on 27.07.2013
I doubt you'll get an apology. GW store reps are known for being unreliable. Add to that the poor formatting and such and you just had a recipe for not being received well. Luckily, Pizzaguardian posted largely the same thing somewhere else and your thread was saved.
TLDR: Don't be indignant, just learn for future posts.
Aerethan wrote: Ripperdactyls huh? GW design team now lead by Charlie, an 8 year old who won the dinosaur drawing competition at his elementary school.
Splash release in 6 months for lizardmen: Toothasaurus and a Fangadon.
Also, someone with the skill please photoshop gargoyle wings onto a Tyranid Ripper.
I'm betting on an upgrade kit to turn a Stegadon into a Shreddadon and another one to turn the Carnosaur into a Tearosaur.
Im oddly exited about this release, for being a non-fantasy player.
I think the high elves got a pretty solid release, but the warriors of chaos got some close misses and an aweful slaughterbrute.
Really hope they dont mess up the dinos.
Perhaps Im stuck in decade old meta, but arent these exotic beasties supposed
to have the name scholars and explorers of the old world give them, rather than "native" names.
So, aToothasaurus would be quite clever and informative.
I mean, good on GW for at least making it clear which army it's for (if for no other reason than that there are no other jungle/claw themed armies), but not a single GW model or even drawing of a model is displayed. This teaser could just as well be for Dead Island III without changing a single thing.
JOHIRA wrote: Wow, that may be the laziest trailer yet.
I mean, good on GW for at least making it clear which army it's for (if for no other reason than that there are no other jungle/claw themed armies), but not a single GW model or even drawing of a model is displayed. This teaser could just as well be for Dead Island III without changing a single thing.
Wrong. It's Squat Amazons. They'll let Matt Ward get away with anything these days.
Remember that time everyone asked for an Ogres army? Me neither.
At any rate, the models hopefully will at least be cool to paint, so there's that.
Without having my Croq-Gar where I am, is there a big size difference between the old carnosaur and this rumored new kit? It sounds at least pretty similar.
Didn't the first Lizardmen army book mention Thunder lizards being even bigger than ancient stegadons? I'm surprised GW hasn't made them yet. I really hope FW make one gargantuan squiggoth sized one day!
RiTides wrote: The downside here is that the old carnosaur model is already fething fantastic.
It is also Finecast and intended for 'one specific character'.
By converting it to plastic with a slew of options, they can get more Carnosaurs on the field and allow for some variation in the Carnosaurs.
They also apparently have another monster that a Skink can ride built from the same general body...which will be kinda interesting/cool.
So, a carnosaur-like unit, or re-done cold ones, etc... would've been more useful.
Yeah, and so would redone Silver Helms or Spearmen/Archers for High Elves.
The goal is not to 'redo' anything which has a kit right now it seems.
The goal is to phase out as many Finecast/metal kits for plastic kits.
Not to mention the third kit listed, which sounds like the obligatory huge rare-slot contraption that each army has gotten...
Personally, I like the huge rare-slot contraptions for the most part.
The Empire ones were far too busy for me though, and partly why I am quietly looking to sell off all my Empire stuff.
But it's hard to mess up dinos so it'll still be cool.
uberjoras wrote: To everyone laughing at ripperdactyls - did you even read the SC named Tic-Tac-Toe? As in, that game you played as a kid with X's and O's?
I lost it.
Yeah but he's from last edition we're kind of over him and a giant dead frog called Kroak...
uberjoras wrote: To everyone laughing at ripperdactyls - did you even read the SC named Tic-Tac-Toe? As in, that game you played as a kid with X's and O's?
I lost it.
Yeah but he's from last edition we're kind of over him and a giant dead frog called Kroak...
Regards, howie
Not to mention Itzi Bitzi and Tuini Huini.. Ripperdactlys is just lazy though.
This release sounds like a lot of fun. I have found it disappointing leading up to this release that every other army has been creeping into the lizardmen's territory of owner of huge monsters. This release looks like it's giving them back their flavor in giving them hero ridden carnosaurs and two new great beasts (the carnosaur alternative build and then the other new monster).
As to the criticism on the naming of the new units, it isn't new for the game and certainly shouldn't be shocking. Further to that, they're expensive toys--laugh about it!
Where are the lizardmen to go with my new dinosaur army?
I hope that the kits aren't too exorbitantly overpriced. Dinosaurs get a lot of love in my household.
I imagine we should see some hefty price tags considering almost all these units sound like big chunky things, and all have parts for riders or unique heroes.
Very much looking forward to seeing this new close combat hero, even if he is finecast. At least we'll get a plastic skink hero out of this.
I was also wondering about possible re-boxing... hopefully, skinks and saurus do not get re-boxed into packaging that gives less models (as happened with orc boyz, leading to very few people actually starting them when they were re-released).
RiTides wrote: I was also wondering about possible re-boxing... hopefully, skinks and saurus do not get re-boxed into packaging that gives less models (as happened with orc boyz, leading to very few people actually starting them when they were re-released).
Warhammer: Lizardmen Carnosaur This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that makes one of four possible massive center-piece miniatures.
HUGE - 8 inches long by 5 inches tall
Can make an Oldblood on Carnosaur, Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur, Kroq-Gar on Carnosaur or Troglodon with Skink Oracle.
This is huge. How long is Valkyrie? I feel like this is about the same length and i think i'll feel the same about it, I love the model but hate having to have a separate box for it. And since scar-vets can take it that means you could potentially have two. Or whatever else a Troglodon is.
Warhammer: Lizardman Bastiladon This box contains a brand new multipart plastic kit that makes a Bastiladon carrying either a Solar Engine or an Ark of Sotek.
Hahahaha this makes me laugh so hard. Does anyone remember way back in the rumors when someone first said there will be a new monster that is a war engine that absorbs sunlight and shoots it like a cannon ball? People thought that was the stupidest idea and the person was just trolling... I can't want for a lizardmen cannon.
Warhammer: Lizardman Bastiladon This box contains a brand new multipart plastic kit that makes a Bastiladon carrying either a Solar Engine or an Ark of Sotek.
Hahahaha this makes me laugh so hard. Does anyone remember way back in the rumors when someone first said there will be a new monster that is a war engine that absorbs sunlight and shoots it like a cannon ball? People thought that was the stupidest idea and the person was just trolling... I can't want for a lizardmen cannon.
Whoa, I think you're right- I do remember that! That was a whiiiile back. Whoever that rumor monger was deserves some credit
Warhammer: Lizardmen Carnosaur This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that makes one of four possible massive center-piece miniatures.
HUGE - 8 inches long by 5 inches tall
Can make an Oldblood on Carnosaur, Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur, Kroq-Gar on Carnosaur or Troglodon with Skink Oracle.
This is huge. How long is Valkyrie? I feel like this is about the same length and i think i'll feel the same about it, I love the model but hate having to have a separate box for it. And since scar-vets can take it that means you could potentially have two. Or whatever else a Troglodon is.
Warhammer: Lizardman Bastiladon This box contains a brand new multipart plastic kit that makes a Bastiladon carrying either a Solar Engine or an Ark of Sotek.
Hahahaha this makes me laugh so hard. Does anyone remember way back in the rumors when someone first said there will be a new monster that is a war engine that absorbs sunlight and shoots it like a cannon ball? People thought that was the stupidest idea and the person was just trolling... I can't want for a lizardmen cannon.
Warhammer: Lizardmen Terradon/ Ripperdactyl Riders This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that can be assemble as either 3 Terradons or 3 Ripperdactyls, flying cavalry mounts ridden by Lizardmen Skinks.
Included Parts to upgrade one Terradon rider to the special character Tiktaq'to.
There's already a Failcast model for Tiktaq'to (which wasn't released that long ago). Can't see them releasing a replacement., with the possible exception that the (UK) availability is set at 'usually ships in 4 weeks'.
Ulcis wrote: There's already a Failcast model for Tiktaq'to (which wasn't released that long ago). Can't see them releasing a replacement., with the possible exception that the (UK) availability is set at 'usually ships in 4 weeks'.
Not the first time, they make a metal to Finecast model obsolete with a plastic kit, e.g Wraithguard.
Warhammer: Lizardmen Terradon/ Ripperdactyl Riders This box contains a multi-part plastic kit that can be assemble as either 3 Terradons or 3 Ripperdactyls, flying cavalry mounts ridden by Lizardmen Skinks. Included Parts to upgrade one Terradon rider to the special character Tiktaq'to.
There's already a Failcast model for Tiktaq'to (which wasn't released that long ago). Can't see them releasing a replacement., with the possible exception that the (UK) availability is set at 'usually ships in 4 weeks'.
Perhaps, but that was a transition for an already existing metal model released for the last book(or whenever the last/current Terradons were released).
Just saw this over on the GW website. Fairly Lizardman related.
I suppose i owe OP some form of apology. Not for doubting the validity of his post, because it did seem fairly trollish, but for maybe coming on a little strong with my skepticism. Sorry buddy.
I dont often post but wanted to congratulate you, op, gw have a mini teaser up that can not be anything other than dinomania.I'm chuffed as I was giving up on them, got battalion and hq on terradon ages ago then they sat waiting for new stuff.It's only a forum for toys and rumours are just that-rumours.People did not need to get mad at you for simply being new.Nice catch I can plan skink crusade now.
Originally posted by MadCowCrazy
Brush4Hire just had a livestream where they reviewed some books, they also took a look at the new WD showing off the new Lizardmen.
Thanks for that link... very interesting stuff! Unfortunately, our first impressions will always be of grainy images since GW won't show us the real ones first
Originally posted by MadCowCrazy
Brush4Hire just had a livestream where they reviewed some books, they also took a look at the new WD showing off the new Lizardmen.
Skip to 36min or so if you dont care for the Tau supplement.
Thanks for the video. Really want to see some clearer pictures before I can make a statement on the models. Although I'm also interested to see what all these Multi-Kit price tags are...
I also can't make out the Battalion very well but they point out the Cavalry has a new look.
Also is it just me or do some/all of the other models appear to look different/more dynamic as well?
Pics for those who can't watch the videos. Wish I could make them higher quality, though :-/
Edit: Ninja'ed, but I took these screen captures myself, and it looks like there are a few that aren't posted above, so I'll leave them here (hosted on photobucket).
pities2004 wrote: Lizardman battlemagic? Lizards get there own lore?
They mention Astromancy in the article. Carnasaur looks great, but not sure I like all the surfers. Though I understand why they did that, the unused models can be made into foot mounted troops.
RiTides wrote: Pics for those who can't watch the videos. Wish I could make them higher quality, though :-/
Edit: Ninja'ed, but I took these screen captures myself, and it looks like there are a few that aren't posted above, so I'll leave them here (hosted on photobucket).
But back on topic: So our releases are two single large models, a plastic character, a set of 3 flying cavalry and some finecast. Whilst I do very much enjoy the Tetto'eko sculpt (it looks fantastic) we're still outputting this in the devil's own satanic invention: finecast. Overwhelmingly underwhelming in terms of releases, when the most inventive thing in their release is also the most disappointing model, you have done something wrong.
Micky wrote: As far as I can tell, the "new" battalion is much the same as the old one.... cold ones, saurus, temple guard, skinks...
I thought the same as well, but some of the models looked a little different or at least more dynamic to me.
Although that's perfectly understandable with the grainy pictures. Just wondering if I should go pick up a Battalion asap.
Also totally honestly question as I've been away for awhile - I'm assuming prices for the new releases are still normally in the front of the White Dwarf?
So, one big monster kit (2 options), a box of three models for between $50 and $60. New fast options and probably an expensive new cav option. Basic troops down to 10 models per box but averaging $2.50 to $3ish a model. Crap finecast model everyone needs as overpowered but noone wants to buy it as it is finecast.
Which army was I talking about when I started typing this.... cannot remember
Somewhere in the depths of my blackened heart the little boy who drove his parents mad with dinosaur facts and dreamed of being a paleontologist one day is wakeing up after a long sleep...
I'll have to wait for cleaner pics but I think I like the old carnosaur better. The birdies look ok though. As usual I'll buy anything with a skink on it though.
Love the Skink Priest, terradons, ripperdactyls (as weird as the name is) and I also like that the Bastil-motron is not huge... looks smaller than a stegadon. Jury's still out on the carnosaur... looks pretty good in the blurry pics but I might like the troglodon better. Excited for this weekend.
The problem with the big monster kit is that the rider/saddle looks so tacked on. Like someone designed the monster/dinosaulr and someone else designed the rider and just stuck it on. It sort of reminds me of the conversions where people get a toy dinosaur and then add their own rider.
PrehistoricUFO wrote: I like the High Priest and Tetto'Eko, that's about it. Sort of disappointed.
I can't say I'm blown away by anything either- but really - it's a bit early to judge them until we get some decent pics.
I think this is going to play out for me exactly like every release since about the Necrons:
"Hrm, some interesting things, might consider picking up an X or a Y or two, if JESUS MOTHER OF GOD IT COSTS WHAT!!??!?!?"
In this case, the Carnasaur looks cool, but it's probably gonna cost $80, or MORE. Why don't we start the betting pool now on the prices. Whoever wins might actually be able to afford some of this stuff then...
'Neat. Shame I have an entire army I'm perfectly happy with and don't need to expand.'
Seriously.
Carnosaur? Whoop de do. Have 2 already.
Skink Priest? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
Skink chief? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
Terradons? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
'Neat. Shame I have an entire army I'm perfectly happy with and don't need to expand.'
Seriously.
Carnosaur? Whoop de do. Have 2 already.
Skink Priest? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
Skink chief? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
Terradons? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
New stuff for you:
-Troglodon with Skink Oracle
-Ripperdactyls
-Bastiladon carrying Solar Engine or an Ark of Sotek
Notice how every plastic unit has an alternate build for something that wasn't around before.
3 new units is par for the course. It's actually shocking that terradons were redone - the blueprint for recent releases for the most part is not to redo units everyone things should be redone in plastic.
'Neat. Shame I have an entire army I'm perfectly happy with and don't need to expand.'
Seriously.
Carnosaur? Whoop de do. Have 2 already.
Skink Priest? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
Skink chief? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
Terradons? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
Where's the new skink chief? I will say the new Skink priest is a surprise - given the two existing ones, plus the one from the Stegadon kit. Especially with them adding the palanquin'd skink too. You can make a pretty nice all skink army with quite a lot of variation now too.
'Neat. Shame I have an entire army I'm perfectly happy with and don't need to expand.'
Seriously.
Carnosaur? Whoop de do. Have 2 already.
Skink Priest? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
Skink chief? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
Terradons? Whoop de do. Have enough already.
New stuff for you:
-Troglodon with Skink Oracle
-Ripperdactyls
-Bastiladon carrying Solar Engine or an Ark of Sotek
Notice how every plastic unit has an alternate build for something that wasn't around before.
3 new units is par for the course. It's actually shocking that terradons were redone - the blueprint for recent releases for the most part is not to redo units everyone things should be redone in plastic.
High elves got Shadow warriors redone in plastic. Weren't both these units in metal before?
Carnosaur/trogolodon - looks fine, but the older one is better.
Bastiladon - rubbish and continues a daft trend of strapping things to the backs of giant creatures. Also the giant crystal just reminds me of the talking Raptor in Atomic Robo who thinks crystals powered time travel.
Terradons/Rippers - look good, although the Rippers appear to have slightly derpy faces.
Finecast characters - not even worth thinking about.
Pretty underwhelming for one of my favourite Fantasy armies.
Little dissapointed with the look of the Bastiladon. Maybe better pics will do it justice but at the moment it could look a bit more aggressive really.
Apart from that I'm pretty impressed, some really nice stuff.
Did any one hear if there is any shrinkage to the troop kits, im currently building up a core force that id like done before said decrease in model count yet increased in price.
In standard GW form, we see poor resolution pictures from somebody else because they are afraid to show us. Thankfully, most of us want to wait to see real pictures before passing judgement. I've successfully avoided collecting lizardmen all these years (although it's been a struggle), this may be the year that gets me. We'll see...
Could someone re-host the pics I posted at the top of page 4? (Not on Dakka, though). My bandwidth limit on the photobucket account was reached overnight, so I think they may not show up for much longer.
I love these threads where someone has some info and everyone jumps all over them for being a troll, then the info is revealed as true and like one person apologizes for being a dink.
I love these threads
Unless this book has something spectacular it's just going to be purple sun bait like the last one. Too bad, I really like the concept and lizard man models.
Sidstyler wrote: Pics are a little too low-res but it seems like the new dinos don't look too bad. It's a better effort than the stegadon kit was I think.
...err...I don't think the carnosaur is worth $85, though...
I'm thinking the Carnosaur is going to be a $60ish kit.
Nice stuff. I'm interested to see how they changed the Slann up and if anything else is now worth taking instead? The Lizardman armies of the past were so similar, I hope there will be more options open to them.
I do love this though.
Someone posts rumors for everyone, then people proceed to insult him for it.
When it shows value, rather than apologise, they just act even more dick-like.
Being on "the internet" does not mean act like a dick to everyone.
Grow up, treat people with a little respect and you will get alot further in life.
OT: Just waiting for some pics that arent soo fuzzy.
For now, im not too keen on the flat looking dino, but thats down to alot of detail hidden.
$85 for the Carni? Hell no. Looks like the lizards still aren't happening for me. Sorry GeeDubs, but that's too much. Even KF on Deathclaw and other similar kits aren't that much. Forget it!
Don't play Lizardmen so this release doesn't really affect me, but from what I can see from the images the model look pretty good. Seems like a good time to be a Lizardmen player, but if they are reduce the amount of warriors in a box it doesn't seem to be a good time to be a new player.
timetowaste85 wrote: $85 for the Carni? Hell no. Looks like the lizards still aren't happening for me. Sorry GeeDubs, but that's too much. Even KF on Deathclaw and other similar kits aren't that much. Forget it!
TheDraconicLord wrote: Well, I don't even play WHFB but I really want some of those Dinossaurs... they look freakin' cool!
I wonder what I can "count-as" in the grim-world of 40k
I would take the dinos, chuck the riders and put on gun turrets or artillery turrets on their back and maybe some sort of technological control device stuck to their heads.
If I was playing with my usual buddies, I'd whip up my own rules. If I was playing with a stranger, they'd be tank substitutes.
Agreed, particularly with the old model being so darn good! Of course, it's smaller... but it's one of my favorite GW models ever (I had one in metal until recently parting with it).
Terradons are sweet, though, and not that much of a price increase over the old (if any?) due to the material change.
Which particular dinosaur? There were herbivores that had pretty long front limbs despite being bipedal.
Also, fantasy creatures. Even with longer limbs it's pretty much the most realistic big creature GW ever made. It also saves me the hassle of converting them for the inevitable dragon scratch build.
RiTides wrote: Agreed, particularly with the old model being so darn good! Of course, it's smaller... but it's one of my favorite GW models ever (I had one in metal until recently parting with it).
For me it's less the cost but more justifying the cost.
Painting a dinosaur for the sake of painting a dinosaur is not worth $85+tax.
RiTides wrote: Agreed, particularly with the old model being so darn good! Of course, it's smaller... but it's one of my favorite GW models ever (I had one in metal until recently parting with it).
For me it's less the cost but more justifying the cost.
That is a very good point that gets simplified, and thus perceived wrong, a lot. I have a very reliable income with quite a good heap of money to spare each month, I could buy an entire army if I wanted to, each month, but that is exactly the point - cost doesn't match the stuff you get. What ticks me off is their price for the individual characters. 20$. Twenty bucks, people! This is absolutely insane. Just have a look around at what similar models cost...a lot of them are <10$ and even really, really high quality stuff from e.g. Avatars of War cost ~11€ (~14$) per model. And those models are metal, not plastic!
I'm going to buy a box of LG for an awesome Tomb Blades conversion I recently saw on Dakka. But at 26€ per box? Nah. I'll wait for a second hand offer to show up.
Not sure why they bother with monsters in an edition where everyone has a cannon or steadfast. It's like.. gasp.. GW doesn't understand their own edition!
Sadly I doubt the carnosaur will have a ward save which means it'll sit on the shelf being useless as do all monsters without a ward/regen save.
RiTides wrote: Old cold ones are in one of the pics- not being replaced.
You can buy DE ones and convert... :-/
Yeah. I have a unit of the older original plastic ones which I do enjoy as they match the clunky slow look of their riders! I was hoping to convert horned ones for a homebrew unit of skink riders if they had a nice new look instead of the gimped claws of the current plastics...
Glad I picked up a metal Kroq-Gar for a good price. Hopefully those new Bastiladon are as awesome as stupid skull Cannons of Khorne. It's irritating to not have any good "war machines" to field.
Of course, I've only been playing WHFB for a few months so what do I know?
Well, if salamanders count, Lizardmen have pretty darn good "war machines" even now! But I have a feeling the solar thing will be powerful... and of course it's the ugliest model. Eargh.
With the advent of plastic Carnosaurs, now my friend can finally do that Grey Knight Terminator riding a Carnosaur conversion he always wanted to do without having to use a metal (or worse, FineCost) mini!
And the Bastiladon is a bastardisation of the Anklyosaurus, much like the Stegadon is one of a Triceratops/Styrakosarus. I love it!
Agamemnon2 wrote: There is something very weird going on with the proportions of the carnosaur. I think the forelimbs are too long, compared to real dinosaurs.
Yup it's pretty clearly quadrupedal (and I don't think there were many or any carnivorous quadrupedal dinosaurs in reality). Either that or it's just stupid. Latter wouldn't surprise me if Trish Morrison is still in any way involved in the animal sculpts.
Agamemnon2 wrote: There is something very weird going on with the proportions of the carnosaur. I think the forelimbs are too long, compared to real dinosaurs.
Yup it's pretty clearly quadrupedal (and I don't think there were many or any carnivorous quadrupedal dinosaurs in reality). Either that or it's just stupid. Latter wouldn't surprise me if Trish Morrison is still in any way involved in the animal sculpts.
Baryonyx was a bipedal carnivore that is suspected to have been able to behave like a quadruped, ala the Carnosaur.
Spinosaurus was similar as well in that regard.
Both had fairly long forelimbs but much longer hindlimbs and a kind of 'hunched' posture which leads to that kind of speculation and both were suspected of primarily having fish for their diets hence the posture and claws.
Rumored price list for new August GW releases via Pins Of War. Well, at least none of the Lizardmen model kits go over the $85 US price point and one of the large kits is "only" $60. This list appears to be US and Canadian pricing.
Notice the 40K Mini-rulebook Gamer's edition on the list.
Kirasu wrote: Not sure why they bother with monsters in an edition where everyone has a cannon or steadfast. It's like.. gasp.. GW doesn't understand their own edition!
If GW needs prices like that to keep revenue flat, they are indeed in dire straits.
Only problem, next year they need to double prices again to compensate for customer loss.
Kirasu wrote: Not sure why they bother with monsters in an edition where everyone has a cannon or steadfast. It's like.. gasp.. GW doesn't understand their own edition!
Or maybe, they are preparing the army for 9th, where monsters become viable again. Just imagine..an edition where both big troops AND monsters were viable! Impossibrue!
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Originally posted by MadCowCrazy
Brush4Hire just had a livestream where they reviewed some books, they also took a look at the new WD showing off the new Lizardmen.
Overall looks pretty sick, the lizardmen monster list sounds fun to play with/against. That Gor Rok guy is one of the dopiest models I've ever seen in a while though.
I'm gonna wait to pass judgment untill I see some more detailed pics but looks like a decent release. I do think I may stick with my metal Carnosaur though.
Just noticed what look like flaming bolas/slings in the terradon pics!
I...really...hate that Gor Rok. Considering the description of the character it's wholly inappropriate. That Shield is meant to be a giant slab of rock in effect...I'd have expected a more defensive stance tbh.
DarkStarSabre wrote: I...really...hate that Gor Rok. Considering the description of the character it's wholly inappropriate. That Shield is meant to be a giant slab of rock in effect...I'd have expected a more defensive stance tbh.
The plastic Oldblood painted white makes a better Gor-Rok than that guy does, really.
DarkStarSabre wrote: I...really...hate that Gor Rok. Considering the description of the character it's wholly inappropriate. That Shield is meant to be a giant slab of rock in effect...I'd have expected a more defensive stance tbh.
I would say the main disappointing feature of Gor Rok is that the only thing differentiating it from a regular Old Blood/Scar Veteran is the painting. With the Eternity Warden at least you have all of his extra cool gear (and super awesome double axe) but this is just...disappointing, and that gains a x2 disappointment multiplier because it's in finecast.
In the video, they described it as basically a snake dispenser... I can't remember if they said the skinks heat it or bang on it to get the snakes riled up and coming out... but those are snakes spilling out of it.
This annoys me. Lizardmen were my first pick for a Fantasy army, but conceded to Vampire Counts because the lack of Dinosaurs disappointed me. The new Bastiladon, and even the new Carnosaur, would have instantly sold me on Lizardmen back then.
livanbard wrote: Ripperdactyls? if only the rumor name was wrong
That was the name that stood out to me as well looking over these.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, by the way, do we know if this book will let you do an effective Southlands or otherwise "All Skinks/No Saurus" list?
Oh, by the way, do we know if this book will let you do an effective Southlands or otherwise "All Skinks/No Saurus" list?
Given the "Skink High Priest" model, this suggests a lord-level skink priest... so I would have to assume so, particularly given the fact that all of the dinosaurs and monsters and heavy units are ridden by skinks or at least have skink options.
After looking at the Carnosaur pics a bit more I think I'm just gonna stick to my metal Carnosaur. It's a decent looking model from what I can see but it just looks like a different type of Dinosaur instead of a Carnosaur. The variant model however seems pretty cool, I knew if I waited long enough GW would give me a good basis for an Orc Wyvern conversion!
As for that Bastilidon it is quiet possibly the ugliest thing I've seen in the game. I wouldn't even use it to represent a carcass.
Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote: After looking at the Carnosaur pics a bit more I think I'm just gonna stick to my metal Carnosaur. It's a decent looking model from what I can see but it just looks like a different type of Dinosaur instead of a Carnosaur. The variant model however seems pretty cool, I knew if I waited long enough GW would give me a good basis for an Orc Wyvern conversion!
As for that Bastilidon it is quiet possibly the ugliest thing I've seen in the game. I wouldn't even use it to represent a carcass.
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Razordactyle appears to be a Rhamphorhynchus as imagined by GW through the lens of Blizzard Entertainment (just look at it’s jaw!).
Ya, I thought "Winged Zerglings "when I saw the Ripperdactyls.
For goodness sake, all of you stop moaning! No-one's forcing you to buy the models. Plus you can always convert them to how you want them to look if you don't like it.
I'm interested in how the new Carnosaur scales compared to the soon to be replaced metal/finecast Carnosaur. I'm hoping the new Carnosaur is larger so it can proxy as a Dread Saurian, until FW gets around to it.
angelofvengeance wrote: For goodness sake, all of you stop moaning! No-one's forcing you to buy the models. Plus you can always convert them to how you want them to look if you don't like it.
Good point, let's just sit here quietly while waiting for the rules not discussing the new models at all.
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Razordactyle appears to be a Rhamphorhynchus as imagined by GW through the lens of Blizzard Entertainment (just look at it’s jaw!).
angelofvengeance wrote: For goodness sake, all of you stop moaning! No-one's forcing you to buy the models. Plus you can always convert them to how you want them to look if you don't like it.
Sorry, I thought we were on a discussion forum. My bad.
Just as an aside, not everyone has the conversion skills to rescue/change models to the extent that some of these may require, nor should they have to.
I predict I will be severely tempted to buy an army of dinosaurs. Maybe it's the blurriness that makes them look so cool? Is it bad that I kind of hope not? Alas poor wallet, I doubt you'll come out of this one unscathed. But those carnosaurs are just begging to be painted in awesome fantasy-dino schemes!
I am really pleased i wont have to splash out a tonne of money upgrading my lizardmen army, not sure yet how i feel about the new models, will wait to see better pictures, and ofc the army book before buying, i just hope the army isnt too nerfed, mine is almost fully painted and would hate for it to be put into storage with my 40k.
angelofvengeance wrote: For goodness sake, all of you stop moaning! No-one's forcing you to buy the models. Plus you can always convert them to how you want them to look if you don't like it.
Sorry, I thought we were on a discussion forum. My bad.
Just as an aside, not everyone has the conversion skills to rescue/change models to the extent that some of these may require, nor should they have to.
I'm not saying don't discuss, I'm saying stop whining about such minor issues lol. Also conversion wise, we learn by doing in my experience.
Manchu wrote: I predict I will be severely tempted to buy an army of dinosaurs. Maybe it's the blurriness that makes them look so cool? Is it bad that I kind of hope not? Alas poor wallet, I doubt you'll come out of this one unscathed. But those carnosaurs are just begging to be painted in awesome fantasy-dino schemes!
I would friggin love an all dino army, the best would be a storm of magic game, at least 2 carnosaurs for leaders, bastildons and stegadons and the birdies plus lone carnosaurs, cold ones and stegadons from the scrolls of binding. Would absoloutely love to see that on the table just for the sheer epicness of it.
Why does the Carnosaur have tiny head syndrome? Additionally the front claws look awkward/oversized and it is balancing with only one leg attached to the base.
Huge downgrade from the awesome metal version. Very disappointing.
angelofvengeance wrote:For goodness sake, all of you stop moaning! No-one's forcing you to buy the models.
So because no one is forcing me to buy them, if I don't like them, I'm not allowed to say so? You may be making some sort of unjustified logical leap there as that just does not make any sense at all.
angelofvengeance wrote:I'm not saying don't discuss, I'm saying stop whining about such minor issues lol.
So if people express that they dislike something, it's "whining"? Or only when you decide it is? And are you the one who decides what counts as a "minor issue" for everyone else?
Please stop trying to shut down discussion. It's rude.
And I don't consider the issues to be minor at all. The names are stupid, the figures riding the dinosaurs are not well integrated and the price is bad.
I would have been all over this a few years ago, Lizardmen are certainly the WHFB army I want to tackle next, but having discovered (primarily through Dakka) that other games are available, I find myself putting them behind the FoW US I'm currently working on, and Dystopian Wars and Infinity stuff I want to have a go at.
Still, glad they're getting an update, looking forward to seeing the new models once the geniuses (sp?) on here have had a go at them.
Gotta say despite my bulbasaur comment earlier, the bastildons like really cool, interested by the carnosaur too.
collected lizards back when they were featured in the boxed game with brets so tempted to come back to them
Manchu wrote: I predict I will be severely tempted to buy an army of dinosaurs. Maybe it's the blurriness that makes them look so cool? Is it bad that I kind of hope not? Alas poor wallet, I doubt you'll come out of this one unscathed. But those carnosaurs are just begging to be painted in awesome fantasy-dino schemes!
Nice
I'll very likely pick up the army book, as I'm considering a counts-as / converted army atm with some models I have coming, if the rules are fun
-Loki- wrote:This annoys me. Lizardmen were my first pick for a Fantasy army, but conceded to Vampire Counts because the lack of Dinosaurs disappointed me. The new Bastiladon, and even the new Carnosaur, would have instantly sold me on Lizardmen back then.
I feel your pain! I can't resist dinosaurs... Damn you GW.
Phragonist wrote:Also, anyone else think of The Bastille when hearing the name Bastille-o-don?
Seems intentional to me, being a walking fort. GW loves a bit of word play, just some better than others *ahem*Ripperdactyls*cough*
The Eavy Metal team really needs to rethink using the same painting style for all armies. The studio armies for Beastmen, Warriors of Chaos and Chaos Space Marines are very unflattering and don't do those awesome models any justice. Looks like Lizardmen are another victim.
Good thing I'm constantly broke, I've got the age 3 to 8 versions of myself shouting at me to start a Jurassic Park lizardmen army.
Even then, I guess I'll eventually get myself the Carnosaur kit, because that Troglodon looks adorable.
I started a lizardman army this year (really just as a reason to play with dinos), but kept to only plastics knowing the book was out later this year. I like the LM core troops fine, but a recut skink box with command would have been nice. No big deal on that one I guess. Chameleons, Kroxies, and hunter packs would have been welcome, as would changing the cold ones to the non derpy DE ones. So, I could have gotten any of these and not missed out on new models, so a bit disappointed, but the new teradons look very nice.
What I really held out for was the new dinos. I was sure the stegs weren't getting redone, so I had a few of those plus couldn't resist the carny. So, as for the new guys, they are fine, I just have one big let down. The Bastilidon, seems to be a good model. Ankylosaurs are one of the big popular dino prototypes not used yet, I'm not sold on its face yet, and a bit worried its visual profile on tabletop role will take away from the stegys. The Carnosaur looks like the kind of model that would have sold me the army, if the stegs hadn't done that already. A new skink caster is also very welcome. I think when people complain that its head is too small and arms too big, what they might be saying is that it isnt a T-Rex. The Carny is more Warhammered up take on a Carnasaurid (maybe with a prosauropod grandfather). I really would like a T-Rex though, maybe armoured up in Aztecy armor. Hear that Forgeworld? I'm sure Blizzard wont even notice. The teradons (ok not dinos, but in theme) look very nice and worth the wait. Ripperdactyls? Maybe, again with the face though. My big disappointment? I had my cold blood pumping heart was set on a giant Sauropod dwarfing every other model, now I guess I'm making one a terrain piece.
Gee, with all this talk of Lizardmen, I guess it was quite the coincidence that not too long ago, I was working on yet another basing video: swamp theme bases:
These were made with sculpey, Apoxy sculpt, green stuff and cork.
I also dug up all of my Aquarium vegetation that I used for my Lizards...
It was like a trip down memory lane, since I did use a number of these techniques on my own army back in the day!
Honestly all the models look pretty cool Lizardmen being my first and favorite fantasy army I was hoping for a bit more. That aside I am more interested in what the rule book holds I suppose there is apart of me who wants it to be so op that no army can stand up to it but then the adult in me smacks the inner child and realizes that a balanced book is much better. I hope we keep cold blooded and I really hope they changed Saurus warriors initiative we should not be 1 and 2 across the board, and to be entirely honest all our hq choices need a points reduction, and yes I also realize the slaan need a nerf, and a way to run an army without a slaan that would be awesome.
I really can't see how the name "Ripperdactyls" is causing this much consternation in the playerbase of an army that did and does have a character named tiktak'to
Lots of conversion potential here. The big monsters could be converted into Snakebite battlewagons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of those winged dinosaurs popping up as jetbike stand-ins in Exodite armies...
eohall wrote: I really can't see how the name "Ripperdactyls" is causing this much consternation in the playerbase of an army that did and does have a character named tiktak'to
eohall wrote: I really can't see how the name "Ripperdactyls" is causing this much consternation in the playerbase of an army that did and does have a character named tiktak'to
Rarely was a truer word ever spoken.
Every release has to have some catch phrase or rallying cry. Ripperdactyls is this one's.
pretre wrote: Every release has to have some catch phrase or rallying cry. Ripperdactyls is this one's.
Ironically, they're my favorite models of the bunch so far. They can name them whatever they want if the model's good... with other "infamous" names, this was not the case (Slaughterbrute). But if it's a good sculpt, I can call lit something else
Going on some recent army releases I am pleasantly surprised to find nothing in this release I don't like. The middle lad who started Lizardmen earlier this year is of course ecstatic over them, and wants a couple of the Carnosaurs at least.
Manchu wrote: I honestly don't get the love for the current carnosaur model. It looks like a strip of gnarly beef jerky to me.
My problem with the new one is that it's head is too small, imo. The Troglodon's head is a bit better.
Then again, that could just be due to the image quality.
Anyone else thinks the bastilodon looks like a turtle? That's what I thought when I first saw it.
I'm still disappointed there are no Jaguars. Those are meant to be a sacred Lizardman thing, iirc. Can you imagine how rad it would be to see a skink riding a Jaguar?
The koq'gar carnosaur model will be the one im using, looks far more menacing and the head looks pretty good. Gosh darn it cant wait to see those pics/models properly.
Troglodon also looks fine as so I am not sure what to build first.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Any word on the rules or fluff yet? Like why the horned dino is called a "troglodon?" By the name it seems it might be a cave dweller.
This is what I made of the names
troglodon - hole tooth
ripedaktylos - quivering finger
bastiladon - meaningless prefix on tooth
But since GW can't get even Latin right, it's too much to ask that they know any Greek.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Any word on the rules or fluff yet? Like why the horned dino is called a "troglodon?" By the name it seems it might be a cave dweller.
This is what I made of the names
troglodon - hole tooth
ripedaktylos - quivering finger
bastiladon - meaningless prefix on tooth
But since GW can't get even Latin right, it's too much to ask that they know any Greek.
1) So it either has lots of teeth and lives in caves, or really needs to see a dentist.
2) It's actually Ripperdactyle. Which means pointy finger I guess?
3) Bastila- is apparently a reference to the Bastille in France. So...cheesy easily stormed tooth?
Here's one of two carnosaur conversions that I did:
The WIP's:
While I still have some old style plastic wings, I am not sure they would be big enough for the new one. Perhaps my extra Utraforge dragon wings...
Here's a blog post on the other one (this one got a Silver Demon in the Monster Category last year at GD):
http://wappellious.blogspot.com/2012/02/heavily-converted-carnosaur-adepticon.html
Despite blurry pics, I think I like these minis. Names are a different issue. A bad/ridiculous name doesn't help when fluff/inmersion is a factor.
About Carnosaur head, I think GW went for a more CarnoTaurus style, away from T-rex-ish scale. At least they didn't sculpted the silly Carnotaurus hands. Its all about getting used to it (searching for dinos on google helps a lot). Pics angles don't do a favour when looking at heads too.
With all the "inspiration" GW has been having (getting from other companies) recently I thought maybe the Ripperdactyl would have looked like something out of Avatar.
Infact just in general this film was pretty big and I though could have really helped inspire the new Lizards but it looks like they have gone a more traditional Dino route. It almost smacks of the creative team, you know, wanting to be original!
Well rules leaks from the latest WD are coming. Via BoLS by Dustin Bainbridge:
- Jeremy Vetok is the author of Warhammer: Liardmen!
- No new Kroxigor, that model is the same as we already have.
- Magic is lore of High Magic. Lore attribute is called Contemplations. It is hard to read but here is what I got: If a spell of the Lore of High Magic is successfully cast by a Liardmen wizard. He can choose to forget the spell. At the end of the magic phase the wizard generates a new spell for each spell he choose to forget from the Lore of High Magic or another lore he also has available but the new spells will always have this or that spell lore's attribute. It is possible to generate the same spell as one that was forgotten or one he forgot in a previous phase. Edit: As I re-read this, it could very well say that it uses the spell lore attribute of the generated spell. Trying to decipher "that" vs. "this". Honestly, it is hard to tell from that little preview box.
- Still Kroxigor mixed with skink units. It is used in the batrep.
- Basic stegadon and both bastiladons are used as special units in the batrep.
- Troglodon and Salamanders are used as rares in the batrep.
- The Slann in the batrep takes Becalming Cogitations.
- Jungle swarms are used as special in the batrep.
- No mention of sacred spawnings or new special abilities on any old units used in batrep.
- All this is hard to read in the small preview image: Terradon Riders and Ripperdactyl Riders have 6+ scaly skin. The flaming bolas are an upgrade for the Terradon Riders with a 6" Range, Str 4, Flaming, Quick to Fire. Drop rocks looks to be D3 Str 4 as before. Ripperdactyls, but not riders, have Frenzy, Armor Piercing and Killing Blow. Looks like the Bloat Toads are placed into enemy units before the game starts, one for each unit of Ripperdactyl Riders. They give the Ripperdactyls frenzy D3+1 attacks instead of 1 against units that have them.
- Many new models have a Predatory Fighters ability: When they roll a 6 To Hit in combat they get a bonus attack for free. The Troglodon's Primal Roar increases this to a 5+ for a single round of combat - not sure if it is just him or also units around him.
- The Bastilladon's Solar Engine seems like a buff wagon of some kind. In the bat rep write up Adam Troke talks about it increasing a unit of Saurus (already with Hand of Glory) in a combat with it to Initiative 4 - could be a buff bubble. Hand of Glory gives D3 Init I think, so maybe the Solar Engine gives +1....not sure. It also seems like he shoots it during the magic phase as a bound spell where it kills 7 guys. So it might do 2d6 hits or a template - not sure on Str.
- Skink Chief and Priest look to have Scaly Skin 6+. Could be all skinks have that now.
- Scar-Vet looks to have Preditory Fighter. Looks to be a slight drop in points.
- Oxyotl and TikTaq'To are listed in the heroes. Both looked to have drop in points by about a third of what they were.
- The prices that were previously posted seem to all be right what is listed here.
- Skink Chief dropped in points by almost a fourth. (Not posting exact points)
- Looking at the preview Rare page it seems to me that you can just upgrade the Ancient Steg to take an Engine of the Gods, unless it is taken as a mount for the Skink Chief. It is also listed as a mount for the Skink Priest. Must be the EotG works differently.
- Base costs of the Stegs look pretty comparable to their current costs. Ancient Steg drops by about 15%, but then you have a couple upgrades. Ancient Steg and Regadon can take Unstoppable Stampede and Sharpened Horns upgrades. Not sure what those do. According to the mount cost on a Skink Chief the Regadon drops a little also.
- Ancient Steg appears to be split profile.
- Razordon hunting pack see a drop in points. Salamanders a slight increase.
And via Warseer:
Got the WD here. Ripperdactyls are 2 wounds 2 attacks with frenzy, skink riders have armour and shield and spears so minimum of 3+ save. The generated spell from a different lore uses the lore attribute of the new spell. Scar vets can take carnosaurs(!!!) skink priests can take lore of heavens and beasts! Overall im happy!
I can't make the toughness out its really fuzzy, sorry dude!
Thanks for the update silent25. The clearer pictures do make the models look better, although its amazing how different/better a model can look with a specific paint scheme. Ie for me Bastiladon 1 vs. Bastiladon 2.
Has there been any word on price increases for current units?
And Gor-Rok looks like he's at a rock concert throwing up the rock on sign. Nice GW...
And @ CthululsSpy
I'm wondering if that's a bizarre typo for a normal Stegadon.
So lizards finally get their own lore? Finally...don't the High Elves already have High Magic though?
Yup, HE have HM so like WoC and DoC, just different lore attribute. But this attribute is strong. Give you a lot of flexibility to dump spells that may not be needed or effective later in a game (like dumping range for a buff spell). Though I saw on one of those forums Skink priests now get Heavans and BEASTS as a choice.
Looking much better in the clearer pics.. Already have an old carnosaur so I doubt I'll get the new one, if I do I'll make it whatever that other kind of carny is supposed to be. Will be getting a bastilidon for sure
I agree with you Tides.
You can knock GW, but the plastic kits really are bloody good.
Granted alot have taken a price hike to include new options.
But for me, i love spare parts and extras, so its easily worth it.
More so for the fact you can usually use magnets and save a bloody fortune.
I think my southlands skink army will be getting a boost pretty damn soon.
Wow, some of those are amazing. confirmed my decision to sell my high elves to pay for it(or start to anyway). The rules and point reduction for Chakax are the final nail in the coffin before starting.
Those Terannodons are excellent, noneplussed by the ripperdactlys still. Bastilodon is ok, definitely improved by the new pics.
The Carnodon/Troglydon: These could look really good with better paintjobs, there is something about the scale patterning i dont like. Not sure what it is.....
Why do they need an elephant sized critter to carry a dozen snakes? And the ripperbird's heads look ugly and unfunctional.
And this little skink doesn't look like a 50$ miniature:
Kroothawk wrote: Why do they need an elephant sized critter to carry a dozen snakes? And the ripperbird's heads look ugly and unfunctional.
And this little skink doesn't look like a 50$ miniature:
Heavily armoured charging elephants that dispense a vast amount of highly venomous snakes into the midst of the enemy? Sounds pretty cool to me!
Everything looks very good except for the Ripperdons, which look like a bad joke.
But overall, good on GW. Not saying they'll be worth the exorbitant prices, but at least the designs are by and large good. And if there was any army that deserved a decent release wave, it's Lizardmen. I can't think of any army that has patiently suffered through compelling designs with mind-bogglingly bad execution worse than Lizardmen.
Until Gw overhauls their heroes, their Cold One Riders, and their Kroxigors, I'd still be embarrassed to play them. But this release makes the embarrassing percentage of the catalog a bit smaller.
Kroothawk wrote: Why do they need an elephant sized critter to carry a dozen snakes? And the ripperbird's heads look ugly and unfunctional.
And this little skink doesn't look like a 50$ miniature:
We don't take kindly to logic 'round here...
You forgot to note the need to make the carnosaur on a bigger base and hence bigger cannon fodder (as usual). Also the question of why the Bolas need to also be flaming (because regular bolas just aren't cool enough!).
They can charge $50 because they realize every Lizardmen player already has a Slann, so why not try to charge them that same amount for a smaller size special character? Cynical indeed but I can't think of another reason to charge the same amount for a smaller model.
Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote: After looking at the Carnosaur pics a bit more I think I'm just gonna stick to my metal Carnosaur. It's a decent looking model from what I can see but it just looks like a different type of Dinosaur instead of a Carnosaur. The variant model however seems pretty cool, I knew if I waited long enough GW would give me a good basis for an Orc Wyvern conversion!
As for that Bastilidon it is quiet possibly the ugliest thing I've seen in the game. I wouldn't even use it to represent a carcass.
Haven't seen the Razorgor?
I have but I'm pretty sure that as a creature of Chaos it's supposed to be ugly.
Finecast is a no-go for me, so i'll give those packs a pass...
the Snake Dispenser, likewise...
the plastic Skink is pretty cool...
the Carnasaur for sure...
maybe some Terradons...
not in a rush for any of these, but i like about half of the new releases, which is not bad considering Fantasy is a distant second to anything sci-fi for me...
Hmm - I can't decide if I like the Carnosaur or not now. I'm pretty confident I don't care for the variant though.
I like the Bastiladon quite a bit though, and the Terradons (though again, not so much the variant).
The plastic skink chief and FC characters seem to be very lacking though.
Oooh - Making the Solar Beam Bastiladon (which as a bulbasaur fan I would) should leave you with tons of plastic snakes to make jungle swarms from though. So that'll be nice.
Lances, machine-guns and other stuff must be stuck to those giant dinosaurs. The idea of a 40k army filled with laser shooting dinosaurs makes me all warm and fuzzy inside
Hmmm... what i like most is it looks like an all skink army (no slann just skin + krox) is looking more viable especially with the skink "high" priest which is probably a lvl 3/4 and also the rumors of more magic available to them.
TheDraconicLord wrote: Lances, machine-guns and other stuff must be stuck to those giant dinosaurs. The idea of a 40k army filled with laser shooting dinosaurs makes me all warm and fuzzy inside
Work out a counts-as exodite eldar army, or go salamanders.
"This is my counts-as razorback. You can tell by the row of spikes, razor sharp, down its back..."
Really nice releases this month from GW, first time in a while they've released some stuff (especially big kits) that doesn't look toylike/ utterly ridiculous.
Carnosaur-I'll take 3
Troglodon-love the model-hate skink characters who can be challenged so we will see how the rules work out.
Bastilidon-GIVE ME MY FRAKKIN VENUSAUR!!!! 1 to go please.
Terradons and Ripperdactyls, not an initial fan we will see good models thought.
Lord Level Skink- MY Prayers are answered.
Tetto'eko-not my cup of tea
Gor-Rok-Is awesome I want it.
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