What program do you use to make those renders? I'm doing some laser-cut stuff myself and being able to visualise it like that would be nice. It looks like Sketchup, but I'm not sure.
very nice work, mate...
loved your work since i first saw those little Eldar Ghost conversions a few years back...
it's been interesting to watch your stuff evolve...
Malika2 wrote:The details on the streets, are they painted on or also cut?
The hexes are painted with a stencil. the rest is cut.
Gamingdog wrote:question about those shrubs. Is the detial all in the lazer cut or did you cover the plant portion with pva glue and cover them with green flock?
Wow! I've seen the old range of city tiles and expected the change to just be an upsize to the 12" tiles. But this... This blows them out the water.
I love the escalators and the possibilities the new stacking system gives. I may have to make space for a set of these tiles some time in the not too distance future.
I got an idea in my head at the moment of 4 raised areas lined up for a maglev passenger train platform.
WOW the potencial for this system is going to be amazing.
I am going to be intrigued to the extreme by the multi level aspect of this!
Fighting on multi levels, maybe played on different tables as a team campaign ish
Every time I visit this thread I'm amazed by the new stuff you make. The creativity involved in designing every little detail is outstanding. You guys are the true heroes of laser cut terrains industry for me.
I was tempted few times to order some of your products but sadly my enthusiasm melted when I got to the shipping prices.
Still, it's always nice to see this thread updated. Can't wait to see the whole table finished
Usashi wrote: Every time I visit this thread I'm amazed by the new stuff you make. The creativity involved in designing every little detail is outstanding. You guys are the true heroes of laser cut terrains industry for me.
I was tempted few times to order some of your products but sadly my enthusiasm melted when I got to the shipping prices.
Still, it's always nice to see this thread updated. Can't wait to see the whole table finished
Thanks.
Tin bitz in Germany carries a good range of our stuff. try them.
Frozen Ocean wrote: What program do you use to make those renders? I'm doing some laser-cut stuff myself and being able to visualise it like that would be nice. It looks like Sketchup, but I'm not sure.
I'm using sketchup for my designs, as it's simple to use and adequate for my needs (all parts are simple extruded flat shapes, for example).
anyhoo.
Presenting New Paranoia, from concept to table top just in time for Total Reaction 3 Infinity tournament held earlier this week.. (Just don't look too closely, many parts incomplete or only undercoated.)
While there is a lot of detailing work to be done and some more smaller features to be cut and added, the city looks quite impressive and had people talking all weekend.
We hope to get the boards and buildings up on the site to buy within the next few weeks.
I'm using sketchup for my designs, as it's simple to use and adequate for my needs (all parts are simple extruded flat shapes, for example).
anyhoo.
Presenting New Paranoia, from concept to table top just in time for Total Reaction 3 Infinity tournament held earlier this week.. (Just don't look too closely, many parts incomplete or only undercoated.)
While there is a lot of detailing work to be done and some more smaller features to be cut and added, the city looks quite impressive and had people talking all weekend.
We hope to get the boards and buildings up on the site to buy within the next few weeks.
It's shocking how much that looks like the render! I have not been too sure about going in for your vehicles since from the kits I bought, I felt the lasercut aspect would be noticeable... but man, this is better than any other Infinity setup I've seen.
Please consider selling a set of it without the base tiles, for those who already have boards and just want to put the city on top of it
RiTides wrote: It's shocking how much that looks like the render! I have not been too sure about going in for your vehicles since from the kits I bought, I felt the lasercut aspect would be noticeable... but man, this is better than any other Infinity setup I've seen.
Please consider selling a set of it without the base tiles, for those who already have boards and just want to put the city on top of it
Hmmm, for the vehicles I consider also buying/using plenty of model putty to round out things and sand it smooth.
Love the modern design of the city, be nice to live in if not for the warring!
Not wanting to sound like a nag, but any projections on bundles/ packages...Time lines...inspiration for these wonderful projects? Back ground...cause these look awesome as the sign on the high rise/ Hotel say's
We are working to get New Paranoia released as soon as possible. I'm just finishing up the last of the file edits, and have a bunch of instructions left to do. Waggerz is working away at the Website end of things. I'll have to check with him to find out what he has left to do...
We won't be doing bundle deals. You will be able to order just the pieces you want though. You will notice, however, that we do have a Discounting system in place so that more you order the bigger your discount.
I've also nearly finished the paint on the Buggies.
HisDivineShadow wrote: How integral ate the orky styling parts? If one wanted them plain is it a simple matter?
Seems like a lot is glue it on as most of the MDF stuff is cut panels, some parts had to have divoting done at their factory, but if like my drop pods I got from them, well then, one may be able to leave the Ork Glyphs off and do their own in plastic or similar materials. Just have to find me some orks to put out of the hatches as they do so love the wind on their face as they careen about!
I'm using sketchup for my designs, as it's simple to use and adequate for my needs (all parts are simple extruded flat shapes, for example).
anyhoo.
Presenting New Paranoia, from concept to table top just in time for Total Reaction 3 Infinity tournament held earlier this week.. (Just don't look too closely, many parts incomplete or only undercoated.)
While there is a lot of detailing work to be done and some more smaller features to be cut and added, the city looks quite impressive and had people talking all weekend.
We hope to get the boards and buildings up on the site to buy within the next few weeks.
Any update on this awesome looking board and when it will be available?
I'm using sketchup for my designs, as it's simple to use and adequate for my needs (all parts are simple extruded flat shapes, for example).
anyhoo.
Presenting New Paranoia, from concept to table top just in time for Total Reaction 3 Infinity tournament held earlier this week.. (Just don't look too closely, many parts incomplete or only undercoated.)
While there is a lot of detailing work to be done and some more smaller features to be cut and added, the city looks quite impressive and had people talking all weekend.
We hope to get the boards and buildings up on the site to buy within the next few weeks.
Any update on this awesome looking board and when it will be available?
Unfortunately, there's very little chance I'd be able to swing the cost for that table any time soon (unless I really want to try out the American court system in a divorce case!) but dang, that is beautiful.
I love it and hate it. It looks perfect and is really nice, but for a board that is a match to the blank terrain picture on the site, its 381 USD. I love my infinity to look nice, but I cant even justify paying 60-80 for a micro arts studio matt, let alone near 400 for a wooden board that would be hard to transport around.
Wow. Product looks fantastic, but it is definitely on the steep side. That 4x4 board above will set you back $369 AUD. I imagine that much or more again to kit it out with the full set of buildings in the display board.
EDIT: Ninjad!
I make it 7x Flat pieces (4 sets), 4x Corners, 2x Straights, 2xT-junction, 2x Hill, 3x Wall, 1x Elevator, 1x Escalator (unreleased, assume same price as hill but likely to be more)
Would it be possible to produce just the roadways etc as separate pieces without the 2" risers underneath? That way you could get away with 90% of the functionality at a reduced cost - only the elevator+escalator pieces wouldn't work on the base level but would still work fine with other hill pieces.
As much as I love it... I also hate it. $362.21 with shipping to the US just for the street boards. I really want to get it but at the same time I can't justify the expense.
I'm curious as of the need for the 2" risers, seems like a lot of extra weight and wasted room. It would seem there would be a way to interlock the boards using a different method, eliminating the lower part... unless there is a way to make the lower part usable as a basement or underground sewer for a city, I don't see the point.
Would be interesting if you could instead cast the top pieces in resin or even wood of the road, sidewalk, and stair bits. Then someone could glue them onto their own boards for a fraction of the cost, allowing the rest of the money to actually be spent on buildings. Similar to building bits to add to to a building, except these are used to add to flat boards to give them texture and terrain to build a city.
Making those parts in resin would likely make the cost even more prohibitive than them being in MDF. Getting bubble free casts in large flat pieces would require a very good pressure casting setup, and the knack for getting the resin into the mold and pressed down right before it started going off too much. And then you've got the problems of it warping in the mold or during transit as well...
Better that it be made in MDF and they figure a way to sell it to US customers at a decent price.
I love it too - and I really want to get it (Hello, Tax Return time!) but I'll have to see how much adding in a fair amount of matching buildings brings it up to...
It also bears mentioning that each of the $32 packs includes 2 tiles. So when estimating the total, you can halve the number of curved road pieces, straight road pieces, etc. I missed it when tabulating my ideal setup the first time.
Fenriswulf wrote: Making those parts in resin would likely make the cost even more prohibitive than them being in MDF. Getting bubble free casts in large flat pieces would require a very good pressure casting setup, and the knack for getting the resin into the mold and pressed down right before it started going off too much. And then you've got the problems of it warping in the mold or during transit as well...
Better that it be made in MDF and they figure a way to sell it to US customers at a decent price.
I wasn't actually talking about casting the whole part in resin. I was only talking about the raised bits and pieces of the board itself (sidewalks corners, arches, stairways) similar to their building widgets (they could even do those in MDF instead of casting). Then a person could cut their own MDF squares, glue them to their own boards to create their sections. Airbrush in the rest of the road lines and hexes, so it gives someone a reduced cost option allowing them to spend more on buildings. It also still allows those who don't want to do their own work to simply pay the expensive route.
2 straight, 4 corner, 2 T-intersection, road elevator, 2 steps, 8 blanks, retaining wall (currently no escalator) runs $450.67 with a discount of $90.13 + $64.21 shipping for $514.88 that is to build something similar to what was shown. The big issue is the extra risers in height. It makes it harder for someone to buy a couple sections to integrate into their own terrain so I can't use them with Battleboards or Tablescape tiles. I'm trying to understand the extra height and material need. I get the road elevator panel, which would be great if there was access to under the city roads to create a dungeon and sewer otherwise only make that elevated to be used with the steps and then do everything else in a base board so it is closer to the ground to integrate with existing terrain. Don't get me wrong, looks great and I wish I could justify the cost and have it. I'd rather spend the $400 on their other buildings and get some more miniatures. Although I wonder if I could talk the LGS into getting a set.... Probably a great investment for a tournament group or gaming club that could all pitch in together though.
I have many plans to use the extra height for various features. They're just not obvious in this initial release.
It's always seemed a bit of shame to me that every other modular terrain system I've seen basically fails to incorporate any depth. Silly trenches with huge, unplayable walls, rivers flowing majestically on top of grass, craters that block lines of sight, etc etc.
The height also has a second purpose, in that it makes all of the sections stackable. by having all tiles the same height, all tiles can be used at any level.
In the future there will be other pieces to allow transitions between levels and indeed whole other themes. More generic sidewalks, cratered roads and trenches.
As for the price? Well. We've made it as cheap as we can and offered a generous discount for bulk orders. Stuff costs money. That's a thing.
I don't know that the hex pattern was the right way to go for these tiles. It might be the cliche for this type of environment, but it limits your ability to put the table together without adjacent tiles being misaligned.
Mousemuffins wrote: I have many plans to use the extra height for various features. They're just not obvious in this initial release.
It's always seemed a bit of shame to me that every other modular terrain system I've seen basically fails to incorporate any depth. Silly trenches with huge, unplayable walls, rivers flowing majestically on top of grass, craters that block lines of sight, etc etc.
The height also has a second purpose, in that it makes all of the sections stackable. by having all tiles the same height, all tiles can be used at any level.
Sure, I understand that. But looking at the board picture you just posted, with the exception of the escalators it would be fine if you dropped the 2" risers from the bottom level. Swap the escalators with either of the 'tier 3' sets of steps and it works perfectly. If perhaps you made the road tiles available with *and* without the risers it could help save a bit on storage space?
Actually, the original design only had 18mm of total height. Trouble with that was the depth was inadequate for (for example) a trench, and also required a completely different set of product to go up levels in any meaningful manner. 50mm ( Actually 53.2mm) was arrived at by a long series of trial and error as the best height.
Keep in mind, that roads aside, you can use the levels on any flat terrain board you may already have.
Having said all that, there is no reason that will stop us from releasing a flatter, 18mm version in the future. It's just a lot more product, and the cost would be pretty much the same (difference in cutting time between 50mm and 15mm for one panel is about 7 seconds)
Alpharius wrote: What's that bring the 4' x 4' table total to then?
The demo table is $282 and leaves you with 1 spare crossroads piece, by my maths
Or I could be looking at the wrong demo table... anyway, 4x4 where every tile has a road on it is $256, and for every pair you replace with the blanks subtract $17 near as I can tell. These are on my list!
Alpharius wrote: What's that bring the 4' x 4' table total to then?
The demo table is $282 and leaves you with 1 spare crossroads piece, by my maths
Or I could be looking at the wrong demo table... anyway, 4x4 where every tile has a road on it is $256, and for every pair you replace with the blanks subtract $17 near as I can tell. These are on my list!
Well, I'm still confused, but, when I'm ready to order I'll be consulting with you - thanks!
Mousemuffins wrote: The buildings for New Paranoia are being worked on, hopefully up shortly.
Excellent
Is there a chance that the Paranoia table will be on display at AdeptiCon? I'm not sure if it's a long shot, but I'll be there in-person and I think it's one of the largest conventions where Infinity is featured in the US. It would certainly be awesome to see these
Mousemuffins wrote: The buildings for New Paranoia are being worked on, hopefully up shortly.
Excellent
Is there a chance that the Paranoia table will be on display at AdeptiCon? I'm not sure if it's a long shot, but I'll be there in-person and I think it's one of the largest conventions where Infinity is featured in the US. It would certainly be awesome to see these
And Merry Christmas to you, too!
Any chance of a response / update on this, Mousemuffins?
We will not be attending adepticon, sadly. I believe the Adepticon people did contact us about supplying a table of terrain, and apart from only recently managing to actually get this product in production, i'm not sure the boss returned the e-mails.(he's not good at that stuff... he's an engineer. )
Well, I can relate being an engineer, certainly (I'm one!). Is there an alternate method of contact (such as having an Aussie staff member of AdeptiCon make a quick call) that might work, as I think if a board could be supplied in time for them to show off in March, it would be really mutually beneficial to all of you guys! I've shot you a PM about that, so feel free to reply there of course
Hmm, is it by the way also possible for you guys to laser cut different materials, so instead of your typical MDF board, to go for (bio)plastics or even metals and what not?
Part one of the New Paranoia buildings contains all the parts that make up the pagoda tower system. Start with a base or two, add as many pagoda blocks as you like for height, and connect them all together with skywalks and ladders. Included in the downloadable instructions are printable templates for the windows to cut out and stick on, which will save positively loads of time if you don't particularly fancy hand painting about a dozen or so of them.
...still needs work around the stern galleries, and one of the jolly boats isn't painted at all. And gotta figure an easier way to do the stern lanterns. Just in time for display CanCon
Would never say that was mdf if you didnt know. great stuff.
Any rough idea of cost?
And do you have any uk distributors yet? cos I really want to order some of your stuff but that postage is a killer, and kinda negates any savings made by buying an mdf equivalent of someone else's kit...
Well, we've finally cleared the rather terrible backlog of orders after our disastrous Christmas computer failure, and we nearly have additional production capacity sorted.
So, In a couple of months we will be looking for some overseas distributors. Please. Do not suggest again that we should licence production. It does not allow enough profit for anyone involved. The plan will be to ship stock surface to significantly reduce freight.
Price on the Conqueror will be about $58AU.
Also, These will be available in a week or so:
8x 25mm deep 304mm (12") trusses. (under $20AU)
and Tyres.
approx. 22mm x 6.5. two piles o' tyres and 22 individuals. About the same price as the trusses.
Barzam wrote: I've been meaning to ask, what kind of prep work and tools are you using to paint your kits? The paintjobs look amazing.
I undercoat everthing with a black spraycan (a couple of times to fill the end-grain of the MDF) and the proceed with with pretty standard stuff, like airbrush , washes, highlighting etc.
So, In a couple of months we will be looking for some overseas distributors. Please. Do not suggest again that we should licence production. It does not allow enough profit for anyone involved. The plan will be to ship stock surface to significantly reduce
I like those tyres - just the thing for urban barricades and field workshops. Presuming they sell well, consider expanding the range to offer a variety of tyre sizes.
recently got my first CNC Workshop order - a couple of Steel Wyrms - and they are AMAZING. I love the build quality and ease of construction, definitely getting a couple of Conquerer IIIs in the future
The Wyrms need some buddies though, do more biomech monstrosities!
Yeah, it looks more Malcador sized from that I guess.... what the heck, so it's a local STC derivative and a more primitive engine forces a bigger hull.
Any release date for it yet? I want some of your street furniture as well but I know the shipping will be murderous so I'd prefer to make one bigger order than a bunch of smaller ones.
Nice, the desert buggies will look good with the right weapon and a crew of which plenty of the sentinel pilots can help with that folks have or can get their hands on!
Don't suppose you could give me a scale shot to the old ones? I still haven't gotten my old models put together (renovating my work space). I'm totally willing to shelf them of the new ones are easier to assemble and/or better scaled to getting orks stuffed in the driver seat!
Don't suppose you could give me a scale shot to the old ones? I still haven't gotten my old models put together (renovating my work space). I'm totally willing to shelf them of the new ones are easier to assemble and/or better scaled to getting orks stuffed in the driver seat!
they're the same size as the earlier version, give or take a few mm.
I just discovered your site... Why, oh, why must it be so expensive to ship to the US? Your Imperial Ruins are phenomenal, but I could be filling my table with GW scenery for less than that... :(
HGChamberlainIV wrote: I just discovered your site... Why, oh, why must it be so expensive to ship to the US? Your Imperial Ruins are phenomenal, but I could be filling my table with GW scenery for less than that... :(
Still, anxiously awaiting that tank!
You realize it's coming from literally the other side of the world?
HGChamberlainIV wrote: I just discovered your site... Why, oh, why must it be so expensive to ship to the US? Your Imperial Ruins are phenomenal, but I could be filling my table with GW scenery for less than that... :(
Still, anxiously awaiting that tank!
Go and have a look at what people from this end of the world pay for everything you take for granted, and then come back and tell us how much of a spoiled child you sound like.
HGChamberlainIV wrote: I just discovered your site... Why, oh, why must it be so expensive to ship to the US? Your Imperial Ruins are phenomenal, but I could be filling my table with GW scenery for less than that... :(
Still, anxiously awaiting that tank!
You realize it's coming from literally the other side of the world?
Shipping not that bad when you think about it.
Yeah, I realize that. I wasn't expressing a lack of understanding about the economic complexity of our globalized consumer markets and why that would cause a few sheets of MDF to cost so much more than the ones at Lowes (which, when you think about it, are STILL a marvel of modern supply-chain logistics!). Rather, that "why..." was more of a cry of frustration at the fact that there was something I like but it's not realistic for me to order it at this time.
He did mention US distributers being needed soon... maybe I can help with that.
HGChamberlainIV wrote: I just discovered your site... Why, oh, why must it be so expensive to ship to the US? Your Imperial Ruins are phenomenal, but I could be filling my table with GW scenery for less than that... :(
Still, anxiously awaiting that tank!
Go and have a look at what people from this end of the world pay for everything you take for granted, and then come back and tell us how much of a spoiled child you sound like.
Everything in the US does come from the other side of the world, and is cheap. You folks are much closer. The problem is that shipping companies avoid your continent because of drop bears or something.....
HGChamberlainIV wrote: I just discovered your site... Why, oh, why must it be so expensive to ship to the US? Your Imperial Ruins are phenomenal, but I could be filling my table with GW scenery for less than that... :(
Still, anxiously awaiting that tank!
Go and have a look at what people from this end of the world pay for everything you take for granted, and then come back and tell us how much of a spoiled child you sound like.
You mistake my admiration of, and desire for, a great product for stereotypical American entitlement and a lack of understanding of global supply-chain economics. It's an understandable mistake, and I forgive you. I am under no illusion about how much I and my family benefit from being citizens of a country with the world's largest consumer market, the political goodwill to leverage it, and the military force projection to protect it and the networks that supply it. I am quite thankful for it, in fact!
That being said, your uninvited insults and assumption-laden appeal for pity at the fact that you live in a quite powerful Commonwealth country that (according to a University of Canberra report two years ago - Full Report Here) has seen significant gains in household disposable income, is more than a little annoying.
Perhaps we should get back to talking about miniatures?
Whilst Alabaster.clown did come off as a bit harsh, I can only wonder what their reaction will be when they realise that you have mistaken their New Zealand flag for an Australian one.
On topic, if you do get around to ordering, or becoming a distributor, you will find these products are pretty damn good. I have some of the sand buildings, watchtower and pantheons stuff for terrain. And I'm currently building the Goblin Guns. I highly recommend them all.
varag wrote: Whilst Alabaster.clown did come off as a bit harsh, I can only wonder what their reaction will be when they realise that you have mistaken their New Zealand flag for an Australian one.
Touché. Guilty as charged, sir. My bad on that one.
On topic, if you do get around to ordering, or becoming a distributor, you will find these products are pretty damn good. I have some of the sand buildings, watchtower and pantheons stuff for terrain. And I'm currently building the Goblin Guns. I highly recommend them all.
I definitely want to get my hands on them. Like I said, they look phenomenal! Personally, I like my 40K with tons of grimdark, so the more imperial/gothic the better. Imperial ruins and Pantheon both look like they might fit the bill.
Huh. So, I was just giving a think today on the Rocket/Flame/Bullet Buggies and was wondering if it would be possible to use the infamous salt weathering technique on the MDF - would it get waterlogged when rinsing the salt off? Or would the underlying prime and basecoat(s) seal it?
Salt weathering works just fine on MDF and cardboard as long as it's well sealed with a spray undercoat and you brush the salt off rather than rinse it.
Got my hands on 3 Tactical response Vehicles... love them!
A LOT earlier in this thread you posted pics of heavy turrets.. what happened to them? They never got a release? :(
So thinking of getting a couple of tanks for my ig. Thinking 2 or possibly 3 chimera alternatives and a leman russ. In terms of scale, the tactical response vehicles are closer in size to the leman russ from what I can tell from dimensions.... But I really like the conquerer III...
Is it possible to cut doors out of them? I think I could make a hinge using magnets. Yes, I know there is the one that has doors but, I don't really like that one.
So, In a couple of months we will be looking for some overseas distributors. Please. Do not suggest again that we should licence production. It does not allow enough profit for anyone involved. The plan will be to ship stock surface to significantly reduce freight.
Sounds cool. My gaming budget is a little tight right now, but I'll have to look at some of these once there's a US source.
(I assume by 'ship stock surface' you're basically looking at loading up a full/partial shipping container with product and putting it on a boat to a distributor?)
Well, after going through my hard drive and searching out mah thangs, It would appear I have approx 23 assorted projects/models that are either pretty much finished or just require a smallish amount of work to get them released. And by 'smallish', I mean anything from a few tweaks to several days of mucking about.
Four items have been moved to the short pile and should be released in the next week or two. the rest need to be prioritized/sorted into some sort of sensible schedule.
Anyhoo, Done some more work on the Deff Moons (pretty much done. need to be test cut)
I presume these are the size of 12 passenger Ork transports?
Any chance of one that could handle 20 Orks?
And I'd buy either. I guess it depends on how much detail is missing and how much cheaper the cheap and cheerful version is. Many an Ork player would have left over bits they could bung on.
Looking at that picture, I know I'd miss the seating in the tray, the springs and the door. I simply don't have the time these days to attempt to make my own bits for that.
i really like the trukk and the buggys ... keep hoping for a US source for them to cut down on shipping some .. but may break down and order once the trukk is up and listed.
Well just placed an a order for the three Ork Buggies variants and to be honest the postage was not that bad, I have paid more for smaller less heavy items from the US.
OK Customs will probably kick me in the balls for throwing my package across the room but I get that from the US as well, so personally I thought the pricing was pretty good and once you release the the trucks and moons I will be back for more
For the low-detail version, would it be possible to remove the ragged panel edges? That would allow for it to be built as a clean, human style truck, or serve as a base for orkifying.
Woot. or should that be toot? The Tramp Steamer is now available for purchase. Our biggest and most involved kit yet. A 16th century design made with 19th century technology with just a touch of anachronism, I'm sure you folks will have as much fun building as I did designing her.
insaniak wrote: For the low-detail version, would it be possible to remove the ragged panel edges? That would allow for it to be built as a clean, human style truck, or serve as a base for orkifying.
Not a bad idea. In general, there are a lot of decent high-detail kits with large pricetags, but decent inexpensive stuff is harder to find. A bare-bones version + an optional detail sheet might be a good market approach.
My only problem: There is no way to include them into my collection. On the other hand me and quite some others are really desperate for 28mm ships for Freebooters Fate.
Would it be possible to produce alternate designs that would fit in with Freebooters?
That´s the miniatures range. the minis are 28mm, but a little more on the 30mm side and a little bit less heroic scale than GW.
System allows battles on ships and the miniatures have square 25mm bases.
Here are some pictures from a FF-table with a ship:
Basic rigging will do the job since we need to move the the miniatures around and measure distances. There are some other ships on the market but they are either way too small or are model kits with wy too much rigging.
Being able to also play within the cabins or hull would be great but is not a must.
Some use the Black Pearl from MegBlocks as a base for their FF-ships, but there are only a few on ebay left so it becomes a non-option. Also it is actually more work than building one from scratch. a slightly enlarged version of your steamer would be a good starting point for a FF-ship.
Something like this would be great:
Rigging most can do without help, but they would need anchor points for the shrouds (rigging sailors use for climbing up and down on older ships).
Mousemuffins wrote: hmm. I'm not familiar with the freebooters system. what would be required?
I believe the setting is along the lines of fantasy world Caribbean Pirates.
Its rather fun and the models are really nice. The book is like 20 dollars i believe, and you need like 3 figures to start honestly. its a little like the old Citys of gold Mordheim expansion ( i said a little)
Hmm. Problem I'm seeing here is one of scaling. If you are going to have room enough on the boat for meaningful gameplay, It has to be kinda large. Bigger than the steamer, for example.
Now Whilst I'm VERY tempted to head down this path:
or this:
...at 1/56 th scale it would be two feet long, without bowsprit. And that's just a fifth rate frigate.
Other problem is one of final cost/price to consumer, and that of build complexity for a good result. COULD be done as a basic hull with detail additions as separate kits, I guess.
As a set I would suggest basic hull and masts and the rest of the ropes and woodwork they can get from the local diy-store. Actually they could even get the masts from stores.
Almost ready. just attending to some last minute inspections and maintenance. Okay. Any final suggestions/ideas before I commit this one to the cutter?
On the pirate ship thing.. 109 feet is the quickest length I found for an actual pirate ship.
109' = 3322.32cm /56 = 59.32cm at 1/56 or 23.35"
So for a ship like
http://pirates.wikia.com/wiki/Sunset_%28ship%29 Scaled to approximately 28mm it would need to be about 2' long.
I want to do something like this, having an awesome kit to go off of would be nice.
Those hovercraft are really neat btw. Do you have a US distributor yet?
The stand works just fine both with and without the pod, and the model will come with a pair of fins to attach if the pod's not your thing.
Price will be approx. $48 AUD. release date to be determined, but three or four weeks should be reasonably realistic. Along with some other fun things.
Also been fhutzing about with some consoles.
well. It IS a miniature hobby after all. Many super duper tiny bits.
The console design is pretty cool, you can constantly find great ways to add depth to flat faces. The pull switch is a nifty idea too.
I'd recommend two things though:
1. I don't think your cutting equipment is precise enough to do the console faces justice. I'd recommend leaving the console faces blank and providing a printable PDF of the buttons and screens.
2. Rather than using the MDF to make the tubes, make it a multimedia kit and add some wire or plastic hoses that could snake around the consoles.
rwwin wrote: The console design is pretty cool, you can constantly find great ways to add depth to flat faces. The pull switch is a nifty idea too.
I'd recommend two things though:
1. I don't think your cutting equipment is precise enough to do the console faces justice. I'd recommend leaving the console faces blank and providing a printable PDF of the buttons and screens.
We have thought about adding some printable screens and wotnot, which me may actually add to the instructions, but I also think they come up just fine with some paint on them. They are VERY small, and the pictures amplify everything rather unfairly.
2. Rather than using the MDF to make the tubes, make it a multimedia kit and add some wire or plastic hoses that could snake around the consoles.
We are not set up for multi-media at this stage. Dragonforge do do some very nice bendy tubes if you are that way inclined.
The consoles are certainly going to make it my table! really like them, they're busy enough to look techy and being not just flat screens with the overhang adds some good interest.
Well, paint those Bees brown and they could be the next big delivery service transport...
Automated drone package delivery from Amazonia[code]™, your self service one stop Uni-web shop! For everything you need (and a bunch of stuff you don't)!
So. We are contemplating adding a difficulty rating on our products. Is this something that folks would find useful? In addition to difficulty, would an approximate parts count also be thing that would be desired?
Thortz?
I can usually gauge the difficulty required to build it, but it woulndt hurt me to have that on your products. In addition it might help a few other people so why not give it a try.
The stand works just fine both with and without the pod, and the model will come with a pair of fins to attach if the pod's not your thing.
Price will be approx. $48 AUD. release date to be determined, but three or four weeks should be reasonably realistic. Along with some other fun things.
Also been fhutzing about with some consoles.
well. It IS a miniature hobby after all. Many super duper tiny bits.
Great stuff!
Can you show how big that cargo pod is? Compared to say a rhino or scale cargo crate?
The cargo pod is a bit larger than the carrying capacity of a rhino, so would, game wise, hold at least ten passengers. Though like a rhino, it would be a bit of a squeeze.
It's not AS big as a rhino overall, but once you remove the tracks and drivers compartment, it comes out somewhat roomier.
That truck reminds me of some of kr00za's old builds from back in the day
I'm liking the bugs and the VTOL. All of those are stuff I would want to own. Did you ever figure out a way to get postage to the US down though? That's been the number one reason I've never bought anything from your store.
A note for our overseas viewers: Our dollar (the AUD) is in the toilet right now, and our prices are effectively 30% less than what they were 18 months ago. This, combined with our regular stepped discount should make our product very attractive.
Anyhoo:
Well, While we are waiting for the Dodo and Arf track to go up on the site (nearly there... tonight or tommorow evening I expect...), and while I'm also working on a super secret project for a local game, I've been plugging slowly away at this one:
Plan is to have the budget version (smooth skin, closed windows, simplified undercarriage) plus extra add-on sets for exterior greeblies, a turret to replace the sky-light, and a full blown interior.
That ship really is amazing. How do you create the curved side (the 10mm or so pancaked between top and bottom 'plates' of the ship) - is that just stacked MDF or would we have to bend those into shape during assembly?
The curved panels would be card, rather than MDF.You can see the different thickness of the pieces in the pics... The thicker pieces are MDF, the thinner ones are card.
Automatically Appended Next Post: But yeah, that ship is looking fantastic.
insaniak wrote: The curved panels would be card, rather than MDF.You can see the different thickness of the pieces in the pics... The thicker pieces are MDF, the thinner ones are card.
Automatically Appended Next Post: But yeah, that ship is looking fantastic.
Ah, mixed materials. Nice. These things really are a cut above most of the MDF market.
Oh, hey, did not realize you had a news thread here. A few people around here have picked up some of this stuff for Infinity terrain. Others have picked up some buildings which are cool. I myself grabbed one each of the two larger forklifts and the flatbed truck. Forklifts went together good, though could possibly use something to help make sure the tracks/forks go on more symmetrically. Haven't got the truck together yet because I want it to have a bigger cargo area and I need to pick up some stuff for that yet.
Otherwise it's really sweet stuff and I'll definitely have to keep an eye on this thread!
lonecat a lot of the vehicles are inspired from other sources.
Borderlands, Dark Knight movie trilogy, and I had spotted another that I recognized but can't remember which one it was.
I've been wanting to order a not tumbler for a while
Just read the instructions for the Tornadodo, I love how you've included two versions of the large rotors. It would be great if we could purchase a few sets of the more intricate versions for scratchbuilding
These are looking marvellous,
looking forward for more as you work through your to do list.
Keep up the excellent work, Your ideas are wild and wonderful!
I posted something somewhat like this earlier and I think it might've been taken the wrong way. Are you planning on releasing stencils or decals of these different paint schemes we've seen or were you just having a bit of fun? Some of them, especially this one are things I'd like to see. Heck, if you offered a special version of your kits that included a sheet of stencils specific to that (like a deluxe version or something), I'd be interested in that.
Euro-prices are still quite good, very competetive.
the curved card... would that be cardboard or plasticcard? Me I would prefer plasticcard and rough it up with a some sanding paper in preparation for painting. Cardboard has the tendency to crease when bent too much. Zen Terrain over here had that problem with a food booth.
But since we have a great plasticcard-supplier in town it does not matter that much... I can always cut me some stripes when needed.
Cardboard. Though you do have to be careful to align the cut with the grain of the card, so it will bend properly. Most of the bends on this model will be pretty gentle though.
Some more piccys to illustrate the difference between the basic model and the more advanced version.
Note that interior is only about half done in these picks.
There's a serious gap in the market for large 28mm ships/tankers/freighters with playable interiors. I'd love to be able to do a spaceport table with lots of small cargo tugs and shuttles scattered about and a few larger models in the centre to fight through.
Are the little widgets and stuff going to be packaged separately? I feel like those would be a special part of the build unto themselves.
Come to think of it.. Are you building this in Sketch Up? It seems like as much detail as you're putting you must be going bonkers by now.
Are the little widgets and stuff going to be packaged separately? I feel like those would be a special part of the build unto themselves.
Come to think of it.. Are you building this in Sketch Up? It seems like as much detail as you're putting you must be going bonkers by now.
Note quite sure how many separate packages this will be yet. Probably four or five. Basic, no frills kit. Exterior panels and greeblies. Engines. Hull interior. Cockpit interior. That's five. Plus (maybe) a turret to fit where the sky-light is.
Dropbear Victim wrote: Oh geez, there's a lot of small parts there. That's going to be so much fun to assemble when I get one. AND I MUST GET ONE! *fetal position in corner*
Will there be some sort of middle level between the basic kit and the fancy one? I.e. if someone only wanted the fancy exterior, or the cockpit, or the interior floor plates? ...Asking for a friend.
Also, it's been mentioned that While detailed, it's kinda small, at 22cm across. I did consider bigger, with more usable interior space, but the trouble is mostly one of cost. If I were to, for example, double the size, it would represent about eight times the material and cutting time.
Still, if this works out well, I may consider a larger version.
Also under consideration: A simplified interior set in just MDF. Won't be nearly as pretty though.
NTRabbit wrote: Any plans to do other ships, say something called First Indentured Servant?
Hee hee. Took me a moment to get that one
This is a very cool and unique project. If I wasn't so poor, I'd definitely get a kit without the interior detail and convert it into a guncutter for a 40K Inquisitor and his retinue. I've always wanted to recreate Eisenhorn's ship from the novels. I'm not an interior detail guy, so it's a great idea to offer that stuff as an add-on rather than included in the kit. But I could certainly see a skirmish table with two or three of the fully detailed versions on a landing platform that a couple of Inquisimunda/Necromunda warbands fight amongst. Would be epic!
A closer match to the centennial pigeon would be cool but the one you're working on would be just fine since for SW Minis or the SWRPG, it's unlikely you'll run across an iconic ship but a smaller one that has similarities (ie from the same manufacturer) makes a lot of sense.
If you do more spaceships, you really might want to look into resin though for the reusable interiors. Oh.. hey or if the interior for this can be built so it can be removed and added to other possible kits.. I dunno, just a thought.
If you do more spaceships, you really might want to look into resin though for the reusable interiors. .
Resin, unfortunately, is not really our thing. yet. And we don't shift nearly enough product to warrant having resin cast in sufficient quantities to make it viable. Also, while it might make it easier to assemble, I don't think it would drop the end price much, if not make it more expensive.
Anyhoo, I think I'm about done with the passenger space. Just the front cargo door to go. Then back to the outside.
Woot scale shot.
also also:
Simplified Cockpit. I'm going to do a complete, simplified interior for wusses.
Marrak wrote: Just a small question as I look at the interior, are those the bunks that are recessed in the wall? Otherwise am I missing sleeping quarters?
Just the one rack. I figure the typical crew of two wouldn't be needing sleeping quarters as such. They'll just stay in a space motel. Or holo-bunks. or something.
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I would buy these by the ton load 
