Has a bit more nuts to it than GW's attempt. Not saying that GW's Zombie Dragon is pants though. I actually quite like the model but this looks like the thing that ate it...
I'm going to be terrified to paint these things. I am nowhere near good enough to do these models justice. I need to practice so hard over the next several months.
I am looking forward to doing some painting vids here from the studio once I have the first models in my hands. There are a lot of videos of experts painting which can be really inspiring, but my style can be fairly caveman and is perhaps useful to the every-painter.
- basecoat
- inkwash
- drybrush
I actually do a LOT of dry brushing. I got some tricks to prevent it from getting glommy and too thick. Cant wait to hit is with that ink wash and really show off the detail. Even the few models I have painted here at home have been very clear and enjoyable.
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This creature is a real joy to sculpt, and should be absolutely epic when finished. Vince and I have been working on this a while and I am glad to share with you his talents as well.
Zombie Dragon comes with a howdah, allowing you to use your own miniatures to represent the rider, and also comes with a saddle if you prefer to model your dragon riders in a seated position. The countersunk recess on his back is 20mm by 20mm.
We will be unveiling the Treewoman unlocks soon, and we even get a sneak peak silhouette at the next demon.
I talk a little bit about the Facebook concept art and how that will be applied to the Zombie Dragon as well. He is a work in progress, and will get a lot more zombie'ish
I wish I had the funds to go BIG on this, unfortunately I just redid the gaming area and bought a compressor and new airbrush. I might be able to get more than my early bird silver (pincer demon most likely) as I really want a tree walker and spider demon. But the anger demon is also looking great, especially the pictures without the horns added, as others have said it looks very ape like .
The following spoilered is just what I'm thinking of doing with the models and not part of the kickstarter so hidden not to derail the thread
Spoiler:
The problem I have with getting a spider demon is the same that's kept my Juan Diaz daemonette horde untainted for so many years. They are wonderfull models, BUT I have an 11 year old daughter, and twins that are 9 years old. I don't want them seeing these and start asking all sorts of strange questions , I'm not ready for those yet. The tree walker I can handle because it can be painted up to hide the feminine parts, or at least not call attention to them, where the spider demon just has everything hanging out there. I think the spider demon would "look" better with the army, but once again they haven't seen the light of day in years.
The pincer demon I'm thinking of building a water based army around it. It will be the centerpiece as that's what these are intended to be, and then I will try my hand at sculpting new models. I was thinking of mermen/women as slaanesh deamonettes, and some on seahorses for the cavalry, and either a Moray eel or electric eel to be the mount for a lord.
Khorne demons could be crab riders(angry/crabby ) for juggernaughts, maybe a lobster to be a soulgrinder, and manta rays for screamers duh.
Any other suggestions would be welcome via pm .
I have never sculpted before so this idea may be dead in the water before it starts, but ideas are always welcome.
I'm personally glad we're not getting another "fat, bloated plague demon". There's so many of them in the aftermarket compared to how many thinner plague demons there are. Not to mention that I'm pretty sure Jeremy got in trouble with GW when they were doing Ultraforge; specifically for the greater plague demon.
So he would be able to do the demons without having to worry about getting a cease and desist letter for infringement. Plus if GW ever did pull it's head from its oversized posterior maybe instead of hitting great talent with said paperwork they could go back to the really old days and give third party companies the right to make game models for the like the old armorcast reaver, warhound, wave serpent, exocrine etc. it's nice to own your own company but as Jeremy has spoken about his respect of their products and rights that would be a great honor I believe. Also it doesn't mean that he would have to take it, but it would be nice to see as an offering and as bragging rights. I still want him to have his creative freedom and all, but there's no doubting that any connection to a major player such as GW would give him more exposure in the gaming world. Sometimes we forget that just because we saw it here on dakkadakka, it doesn't mean that the rest of the industry is aware of it. After all why does GW still get internet sales when there are great online sellers at big discounts? Because there's always new people that can't do enough research, or aren't connected yet to know.
Theophony wrote: I wish I had the funds to go BIG on this, unfortunately I just redid the gaming area and bought a compressor and new airbrush. I might be able to get more than my early bird silver (pincer demon most likely) as I really want a tree walker and spider demon. But the anger demon is also looking great, especially the pictures without the horns added, as others have said it looks very ape like .
The following spoilered is just what I'm thinking of doing with the models and not part of the kickstarter so hidden not to derail the thread
Spoiler:
The problem I have with getting a spider demon is the same that's kept my Juan Diaz daemonette horde untainted for so many years. They are wonderfull models, BUT I have an 11 year old daughter, and twins that are 9 years old. I don't want them seeing these and start asking all sorts of strange questions , I'm not ready for those yet. The tree walker I can handle because it can be painted up to hide the feminine parts, or at least not call attention to them, where the spider demon just has everything hanging out there. I think the spider demon would "look" better with the army, but once again they haven't seen the light of day in years.
The pincer demon I'm thinking of building a water based army around it. It will be the centerpiece as that's what these are intended to be, and then I will try my hand at sculpting new models. I was thinking of mermen/women as slaanesh deamonettes, and some on seahorses for the cavalry, and either a Moray eel or electric eel to be the mount for a lord.
Khorne demons could be crab riders(angry/crabby ) for juggernaughts, maybe a lobster to be a soulgrinder, and manta rays for screamers duh.
Any other suggestions would be welcome via pm .
I have never sculpted before so this idea may be dead in the water before it starts, but ideas are always welcome.
Theophony wrote: Plus if GW ever did pull it's head from its oversized posterior maybe instead of hitting great talent with said paperwork they could go back to the really old days and give third party companies the right to make game models for the like the old armorcast reaver, warhound, wave serpent, exocrine etc.
They have no need to do that these days - Forge World does it in-house, which is why Armorcast are now a small manufacturer of scenery elements and the old Forge World company who did the same as Armorcast no longer exists.
Theophony wrote: Way to go Jeremy, maybe GW will take notice and offer you a job
Good sculptors leave the abysmal working atmosphere of the GW design studio (like Juan Diaz), not join it.
Those famous dragon sculptors who did join, are now sculpting HH Space Marine shoulder pads in piecework.
And nobody is save from GW C&D letters as long as GW still claims Wood Elves and grenade launchers being their invention.
That's a bit extreme. Aragorn Marks started working for them fairly recently. I think working for GW can be a real boost to one's CV, and a good springboard to working for other large games companies (WotC, FFG) or even media companies (ie Blizzard, et al). However, it's not quite the only game in town as it once was - but it's still the biggest game in our little town.
As a long-term proposition, I don't think it's likely a great gig great unless you're one of the old guard who are by now grandfathered into a lot of seniority and pull, like Blanche, Merrit, Jervis, Jes ...and not many others, with the departure of Priestly, etc.
I am going to be chatting with the Painting Buddha himself. Will be talking about the DVD, showing some ideas I had this morning for the Treewalker, plus some finals touches I am doing on the never-before-seen 1000th backer Plague Angel.
tormund wrote: Eh I said all I really need to regarding my love of mighty phalli. On to another idea.
Please stand by this earlier statement and don't derail the thread further with this line of discussion... it'd be one thing if it related at all to the sculpts here, but as it doesn't, it's getting OT now as almost all your posts have been on this topic despite saying you would move on from it.
I kind of wanted to put off any discussion of the second set of models until they were all revealed, but the plague demon seems to be taking a while. I really like the treewalker and so far all her images seem to depict a powerful image of femininity that I really like as opposed to the spider demon whose look feels much more exploitative to me. She looks purposeful, her pose suggests either preparation of action (the kneeling pose) or steady forward movement (the standing silhouette). Both of which imply a thoughtful and powerful military unit. For her add-ons I feel that the jackalope idea Jeremy talked about was super cool if only for utilizing folklore originating in the US. Otherwise any sort of weapon that brought a more primal savage feel to the model would be great, maybe a club or something that turns her whole arm into a claw/blade weapon.
The zombie dragon also looks great. Its wet feel means that it looks perfect to double as a possessed dragon or plague dragon. Some cool unlocks could include a more demonic face that has its tongue rolling around outside its mouth and curling up around its horns. Alternatively you could go with some kind of eyeless head for a more alien dragon, this would probably work best with some paint job to make some of its fleshier bits look more like resin and slime than actual body parts. Then unless something drastic happens I assume its second unlock with be an armor plug like the other two dragons.
I was thinking if I were to get one I'd model and paint it like a gigantic flying xenomorph. There would be a black undercoat with a lot of varnish type material over the top. Then add dripping effects to its underside to give the impression that the rotting flesh was resin that was just more compact and attached to the body.
Jimsolo wrote: Models look nice, but this is WAY out of my price range. They're good, but they're not $75 good.
You do realize these are not 28mm size right? Compare them to the forgeworld models and you will definitely see the value, they are definitely worth the $100retail price set later, and the kickstarter price is even better.
Jimsolo wrote: Models look nice, but this is WAY out of my price range. They're good, but they're not $75 good.
You're joking, yes? £40-55 for a solid resin model on this scale and of this quality is incredible value, Forgeworld charge three times as much, GW's big plastics are double.
Jimsolo wrote: Models look nice, but this is WAY out of my price range. They're good, but they're not $75 good.
You're joking, yes? £40-55 for a solid resin model on this scale and of this quality is incredible value, Forgeworld charge three times as much, GW's big plastics are double.
...no?
There's almost no purpose I could use these minis for within my wargaming armies. The only reason I would have to purchase this would be for use in D&D or somesuch. $75 price tag is a bit too much for that.
Forgeworld's models are also too expensive, which is why I don't buy them either.
Bottom line is that I can't see myself getting $75 worth of entertainment out of these. I'm not attacking anyone or accusing the creator of anything shady; they just aren't worth the buy-in price to me.
That makes sense in your case, Jimsolo, but just know that these are cheaper than comparable models from basically anywhere. But if they're too big for you to use, that makes sense not to go in for it... but for folks considering a big Forgeworld monstrosity, these are firesale prices
Sorry, Jimsolo. I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. The price for these models is quite reasonable for how big they are, given the market for resin, scale miniatures. They are also exquisitely sculpted. I mean, if they have no use for you personally, then that's understandable, but from an objective point of view, I wouldn't call them overpriced.
Guys! Jim is allowed to think they're too expensive for him to be worth buying!
That said, Jim, your original price related comment kinda makes it sound like they're overpriced full stop, rather than for you personally, which I'd argue they're not, considering the size and equivalent pricing already in the market.
azreal13 wrote: Guys! Jim is allowed to think they're too expensive for him to be worth buying!
That said, Jim, your original price related comment kinda makes it sound like they're overpriced full stop, rather than for you personally, which I'd argue they're not, considering the size and equivalent pricing already in the market.
Hmmm...in hindsight, you're correct. Fixed for clarity.
In any event, I don't think that these minis are expensive for large-size minis, I think that large-size minis are too expensive. I also don't own any Forgeworld minis, nor would I buy Riptides, Wraithknights, or Dreadknights. (At least not new...used is a different story! )
That tree chick is really cool looking, it just isn't going to do enough for me to justify the expense at this point. I'm not trying to convince anyone not to buy, I just personally try not to spend more than $50 or so on a single miniature. It isn't an ironclad rule or anything (I seriously thought about it here) but I just don't think this one is going to be enough to bring me off the fence.
I had another idea for a zombie dragon head that I think has some real merit. What about a cenobite dragon head. Something where the creature has obviously undergone ritualized torture until it became something other than mortal. Say have its lips and nearby skin stretched back to reveal jaw structure, its eyes are sown shut, and spikes are driven into its skull.
A quick question about the free demons, Jeremy - do they "stack"? As in does $1k get you three additional daemons?
Also, what will be happening as far as customs value declarations go? Actual Production cost? Kickstarter pledge amounts? Retail value?
Actual Production costs would likely work for Australian customs, while Pledge amounts or Retail value could be problematic for the higher-end pledges.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also - for the Spider Demon - it really might be worth considering as an additional small add-on or bonus exclusive, some kind of "Bone Bra" to keep those who for whatever reasons (Theo's sounded quite reasonable, for example) like the model but can't really justify naked boobage.
I'll be keeping mine nipples-out, of course. But it seems a reasonable consideration for quite a few potential customers.
I said I wouldn't back this project until second wave because I expected to have to wait until then for Zombie Dragon... He's here.
I would love to see it get more tatty, with some more sinewy head/mouth options and an undead hero riding it, like a knight or mage of some sort. Think WoW's Lich King meets a Game of Thrones White Walker type champion, complete with suitably epic weapon such as a runic sword or oversized mace. I'm sure you know where I'm going with this, Jeremy - make it happen! WANT!!!
If I can post my honest opinion, the alternate head on the Tree Woman is a bit of a letdown. All the other alternative heads are distinctly different and unique and this one just kind of looks a bit bland. The facial features are only minimally changed and the leafy hair just looks like it was slapped on there last minute. You're an excellent sculptor, Jeremy, but I feel that this is below-par compared to your other stuff. The Jackalope, however, is amazing.
Darth Bob wrote: If I can post my honest opinion, the alternate head on the Tree Woman is a bit of a letdown. All the other alternative heads are distinctly different and unique and this one just kind of looks a bit bland. The facial features are only minimally changed and the leafy hair just looks like it was slapped on there last minute. You're an excellent sculptor, Jeremy, but I feel that this is below-par compared to your other stuff. The Jackalope, however, is amazing.
I think it's important to realize that head is not, to the best of my understanding, a finalized element yet. I don't want to say that it will be massively different from that, but I am certain what we have seen still has some revisions to go. After all, the pose is still in a state of flux, no?
Darth Bob wrote: If I can post my honest opinion, the alternate head on the Tree Woman is a bit of a letdown. All the other alternative heads are distinctly different and unique and this one just kind of looks a bit bland. The facial features are only minimally changed and the leafy hair just looks like it was slapped on there last minute. You're an excellent sculptor, Jeremy, but I feel that this is below-par compared to your other stuff. The Jackalope, however, is amazing.
I think it's important to realize that head is not, to the best of my understanding, a finalized element yet. I don't want to say that it will be massively different from that, but I am certain what we have seen still has some revisions to go. After all, the pose is still in a state of flux, no?
That's true. I'm mostly hoping for a bigger difference in the face.
Good points on the Treewalker alternate face. I originally intended this to be a younger looking face, sort of a springtime look, without the harsher lines of the original one. I certainly intend on developing the faces to have more distinction, and I am looking forward to keeping you involved in the design evolution. Thank you for the heads up there (pardon the pun )
In terms of the value amount that will be listed on packages when they are sent out, it will be the manufacture value, not the retail. A Kickstarter is a crowd-funding platform, not a retail outlet, and you didn't pay retail for the item. Therefore it makes no sense to use a retail price. You are backers and investors who are being sent a reward. Very good question and I am glad I got to address that here.
There is a big half-way point state-of-the-campaign address I will be filming tomorrow. This will consolidate all of the news that is important to you going into the last week of the campaign, all in one convenient vid.
Can you ad a link of the kickstarter to the first post? It is annoying that we have to browse the thread to find what people here are talking about. Esp. as the kickstarter updates are not posted here.
How about an alternate head for him with a maggot burrowing it's way into the side of his head? Might need to lose a horn to get that to work, or instead of the shoulder spikes having a maggot crawling it's way down from the back out towards the outstretched hand to be "gifted" to a follower or an enemy.
Alternatively a head where his normal head is replaced by a massive demonic maggot extending form the main mass. Something sort of like alien assimilation's swarm host.
The Maggot Demon looks as great as I hoped it would. I think a head with maggots crawling in and out of the mouth and eyesockets would look pretty cool. Maybe remove the horns on the new head to add another maggot squirming out of his cranium?
This was just posted on the kickstarter under comments
For the bundles, in the last week of the campaign more bundles and information on swapping out models from within the bundles will be released. Just so you know, you will be able to swap out models in equal pledge levels. The new bundles may make that a little easier for you as well, so make sure to check out that information arriving in the next three days.
Personally I think the nose horn is somewhat iconic and sets the undead dragon apart from the others. I'd much rather the alternate head retain it's shape and general size just with more wear and tear.
Shipping prices will be reasonable. As it will be shipping from locations in Asia, eu, America and I forget the last spot, but will not be padded .
Also for countries with import duties( God Bless America), the cost will be based off manufactured price, not retail, this will be seen on the declared costs.
Two more models with unlocked parts coming out and that's it. (Possessed dragon, and plague angel) He won't continue to add stuff to try and bring in more cash, because he doesn't have the time to do it and still reach his shipping date. He is very set on meeting that goal.
Everything will be unlocked at $200,000. About $10k away right now so we will see all of these models in the campaign.
Everyone is getting a super secret special FREE model. He won't tell us what it is until after the campaign is over, but he said it's been talked about in the comment section of the campaign. (I'd like to think it's the Canadian chimera that was talked about a lot as all the other really discussed items have become models)
New bundles on their way next week, and you'll be able to swap out same level models(no word on exactly how that will be done, but said it would be announced next week)
Jeremy has been real receptive to all the comments in kickstarter and here on dakkadakka as well, I cannot attest to Facebook as I don't do that, but he keeps mentioning it in his videos. I'd recommend tossing at least a $1 into the campaign to support it if you can afford that, it's worth it just from the feedback you get from Jeremy in all his videos, comments, and openness to make changes to the models. He's a real class act and is running the campaign exactly how one should in my opinion.
Thank you very much for the summary, Theophony! Is the "possessed angel" a sculpt that has been seen before, or not? That certainly sounds interesting. I'm not a huge fan of the current plague sculpt (at least compared to the other amazing sculpts in this campaign!) so another in that type of vein as an option for people would be sweet.
RiTides wrote: Thank you very much for the summary, Theophony! Is the "possessed angel" a sculpt that has been seen before, or not? That certainly sounds interesting. I'm not a huge fan of the current plague sculpt (at least compared to the other amazing sculpts in this campaign!) so another in that type of vein as an option for people would be sweet.
It's a plague angel, not possessed. The pics of him have been in the video updates and most people have suggested head variation "B", but we haven't seen much of him. The possessed dragon (chaos ) was the one where the head is split vertically in two. Though Jeremy had mentioned that that was changing in another update earlier.
I'm with you on the plague creatures so far, but my budget is maxed out right now with having replaced my compressor and buying an airbrush. Looks like I'll be getting a tree walker(who can resist the jackalope ), a pincer demon, and I haven't decided which dragon( though I want to buy the mountain dragon because he's humping the rock he's perched on ) I might change it up as the angry demon looks fantastic without the horns.
Quick question about KS in general. If I back at the $1 level I can add more funds later on so I can get more stuff yeah? I've only backed projects at the level I wanted. So I'm not quite 100% this.
I'm sure it won't be- I think it's something he's had planned since before the campaign (although it apparently has been mentioned in the comments somewhere, I think it was already done beforehand).
The free mini is certainly not going to be a monstrous sized creature. That's simply not economically viable.
Its going to have to be a standard infantry-sized model or smaller. There have been a few mentioned in the comments section. Anyone have the time to check it out and make a speculative list?
The possessed dragon definite has my ears perking. I both love and hate this kickstarter. Love it because of all the phenomenal models. Hate it because I can't afford to pledge for them all. Hopefully the bundles will be as great as Jeremy has hyped them up to be.
CreatureCaster wrote: Wow, I leave my Dakka stomping grounds for a day, and come back and see that everyone is buzzing, helping each other out, and generally being awesome.
Launching a new model in the wee hours of the night tonight, and then I am going to be launching another after 200K.
Then I am going to be doing a huge roundup of questions that I can answer, leading into the last week which is bundle week. Whew!
Plague angel is up and looks cool! I like it a lot more than the maggot demon
Update #23 May 2 2014
Plague Angel, and a special thanks.
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Happy 1000 backers! I am really excited to share with you the Plague Angel!
In terms of fulfilment and business, Things evolve and solidify more and more every day.
Sure, we enter into the campaign with a gameplan that is heavily researched, but I did not expect to meet SO MANY amazing people who have run extremely successful Kickstarters themselves. I have been in talks and meeting with these folks, and they are giving me advice on my first Kickstarter. This advice includes aspects of shipping, pledge management, etc. They are able to help me thru some of the things that they have had to encounter themselves and I am extremely grateful to everyone for their help.
This is a great community, and I just wanted to give a huge thanks to those who have decided to share their knowledge and experience with me.
Is there any chance of getting summaries of the videos in text form, or even transcripts? 99% of the time I'm at a computer, there's no sound available, so videos are pretty useless. Not to mention it takes 30 seconds to read the contents of a 6 minute video.
You may just not be giving money at all then. The fat plague demon was moved out of the kickstarter entirely. It was too dense and heavy to be made economically (it'd cost more than the dragons). So they're exploring ideas of making it hollow or something but such processes are complicated and take them outside of the timescale of this campaign and delivery.
Pfannkuchen wrote: Where is the plague demon from the pre-campaign?
Yet to be unlocked?
All over demon minis are homages to Slaanesh, Tzeentch and even to the D&D Glabrezu as well. Why not Papa Nurgle?
No money from me until the big fat guys appears...
(which looks fantastic)
Unfortunately he will not be part of the campaign. Jeremy has said that there was too much material in the model to make it work (too much resin), and I believe it was too close to GW stuff. Jeremy has been very forthcoming with his 'respect' of GW and their images as he has felt their ire before.
I am hoping that he might be the super secret ultra special gift given to the backers when the campaign ends.
Theophony, that is Wayyyy too big to be a gift! The gift is likely going to be something very small- at most, a 28-32mm type model. That would be fantastic, but from my point of view isn't even needed here. I am looking forward to finding out what the gift is, but I think expectations for it should be low knowing that he'll be giving away 1000+ of them!
RiTides wrote: Theophony, that is Wayyyy too big to be a gift! The gift is likely going to be something very small- at most, a 28-32mm type model. That would be fantastic, but from my point of view isn't even needed here. I am looking forward to finding out what the gift is, but I think expectations for it should be low knowing that he'll be giving away 1000+ of them!
Maybe a smaller version of him. Since everything is 3d sculpted shrinking it down might lose some details, but I think might be possible.
But it's his texture that defines him (see details on tongues etc.) I wouldn't want a smaller one.
As for willing to wait longer: I'm sure they can figure out how to make him hollow. They should ship the first minis first then take their time to finalize fat boy.
Oh I'd definitely would prefer him over the others so far, though the maggot man is screaming to me to give him one of those oriental straw hats to make him look like the evil ninja from the anime 'Ninja Scroll'.
Either way less than $2000 from this project having everything unlocked. He's not doing anything past that to ensure he can make November release. Just need to see the new bundles to up my order.
This kickstarter is not a preorder but a chance to start this company.
Why wouldn't you want to add more minis to make more money? This is not about getting greedy. If you have more funds to actually HIRE somone then you would also make the Nov date even if you have more minis.
Sure... Jeremy wouldn't possibly make it in time with more models. But with more funds he can go bigger than sticking to a one-man show.
If that's the plan; hiring other people adds a whole other layer of pain in the butt to running a company.
Really successful Kick Starters in the past have often had trouble with over whelming themselves with new products to produce. It might well be wise to keep things in small chunks, doing additional small KS when the previous ones are done and out the door.
He is starting a company. This kickstarter is for paying off the molds that he has or is nearing completion on. Hence why Jeremy has a good business plan as far as we know. (not any distrust in the man just it is always possible he's just leaving for Jamaica forever)
Also not delivering on time is a really big problem. Even if you claim it isn't important because kickstarter isn't a preorder it's still a problem. Here it is in business terms. If a business fails to pay out dividends and impress its stockholders they tend get the head of the company replaced or the entire company bombs as people sell out. In the case of kickstarter the miniatures are our dividends. Hence why a lot of companies that have a habit of being late have had poor performances on later kickstarters as we the customers/investors have wised up to them being bad at business.
Just a personal aside the "kickstarter isn't a preorder" defense for gakky kickstarters is a really irritating fallacy. It's even worse than people who try to brush off all criticism of problematic female minis as "prudes".
I should have been more clear: starting a company does not necessarily mean "hiring other people". Keeping an operation to one or two proprietors is often a lot cleaner and easier than hiring even one employee. Keeping the workload down to the level that those proprietors can handle it themselves reasonably is often a very good idea.
Wehrkind wrote: I should have been more clear: starting a company does not necessarily mean "hiring other people". Keeping an operation to one or two proprietors is often a lot cleaner and easier than hiring even one employee. Keeping the workload down to the level that those proprietors can handle it themselves reasonably is often a very good idea.
Sorry if it was unclear but I was responding to Pfannkuchen.
Pfannkuchen wrote: This kickstarter is not a preorder but a chance to start this company.
Why wouldn't you want to add more minis to make more money? This is not about getting greedy. If you have more funds to actually HIRE somone then you would also make the Nov date even if you have more minis.
Sure... Jeremy wouldn't possibly make it in time with more models. But with more funds he can go bigger than sticking to a one-man show.
Sometimes, it's better to start out modestly to test your comfort levels before going all out. Jeremy wants this first Kickstarter to gauge interest and create a fan base. In the future, we'll probably have campaigns with more models. Ultimately, though, does it really matter? We're already getting two more models than what was originally planned for the campaign (Plague Angel and Possessed Dragon). Not to mention, the more models he adds the less likely he'll meet the deadline for shipping, which would be pretty irritating to a lot of backers.
Pfannkuchen wrote: This kickstarter is not a preorder but a chance to start this company.
Why wouldn't you want to add more minis to make more money? This is not about getting greedy. If you have more funds to actually HIRE somone then you would also make the Nov date even if you have more minis.
Sure... Jeremy wouldn't possibly make it in time with more models. But with more funds he can go bigger than sticking to a one-man show.
Because he doesn't want to make the same mistakes as a ton of other Kickstarters have?
Pfannkuchen wrote: This kickstarter is not a preorder but a chance to start this company.
Why wouldn't you want to add more minis to make more money? This is not about getting greedy. If you have more funds to actually HIRE somone then you would also make the Nov date even if you have more minis.
Sure... Jeremy wouldn't possibly make it in time with more models. But with more funds he can go bigger than sticking to a one-man show.
We've been through this and Jeremy's also been through this.
Does someone knows how big/tall will the Plague Angel be ? Since it's a silver level model I'm assuming it will be similar in size to the other silver demons. I personnaly would prefer a smaller model and would like to make sure before pledging.
May I suggest a "one of each kind" kind of deal?
(A bronze + A silver + A gold grade)
That's totally a suggestion , and not because I'm a greedy bastard who wants to grab a treewalker, a pincer demon and a dragon ....
I like the Plague Angel. The Maggot demon is the first shown that does absolutely nothing for me. Which is a shame. If the bloated version ever comes to pass, I'll be more than happy to buy it, though.
It's not like bloated, rotting enemies are a GW invention, anyway.
I'm hoping the bundles aren't restricting to which models you can get in them. Like, I hope it's not going to be bundles of particular models and will instead allow us to pick the particular models we want in the bundle from an assortment of choices. Because, if the value is good, I'd love to do a bundle of the Vulture, Pincer, and Plague Angel. That is, pending the final look of the exclusive parts for the Maggot Demon and how awesome the Possessed Dragon is.
@darth bob, Jeremy has stated that he will discuss how to swap out models in the bundles, but you can always a la carte your purchase.
I'm wondering or all you kickstarter gurus out there, can you create a second account to order another early bird(if one opens up). I know it would be better to just add he model onto an existing deal, but if it means getting a second secret special gift it might be worth the extra shipping and price difference to me.
You can create a second KS account without any problems,
(I've got a second which I occasionally use to give myself time to decide which EB slot to keep where it's not clear which is the most sensible for what I want)
although personally I'm reluctant to 'game' the system and so won't use both to complete orders on the same project just to pick up extra stuff
However some project creators have issues with sending extra discounted or free stuff to the same person at the same address, and may even word things to disallow them so if you do choose to go down this route getting your wife/partner to be the 'name' on the second account is sensible
Glad to see everything is doing well here. Sorry I haven't been posting more often. I am right now uploading the last model and then going straight into bundles. I will also be updating the page with the remaining exclusive parts. All in all, very happy with the size and speed of the campaign.
You have all been great, and as I post the last creature I want to thank you for being here, for helping each other out, and for supporting me.
I know this is unlikely due to the afformentioned preference for head+weapon alternate combo, but it could be really cool to give the plague angel wings covered in eyes like the angel of death in Judaism. In addition he could have a shrouded head with many eyes within the shroud.
Any more potential thought on the second treewoman face? If the goal was a younger face, how about instead an older face? Craggy and weathered? Right now they both seem youthful to me.
Any more potential thought on the second treewoman face? If the goal was a younger face, how about instead an older face? Craggy and weathered? Right now they both seem youthful to me.
Any more potential thought on the second treewoman face? If the goal was a younger face, how about instead an older face? Craggy and weathered? Right now they both seem youthful to me.
This is way too much awesome for my wallet to handle.
My brother is very much torn as to which model he wants now hahaha. At the moment it's Warrior Daemon, Mountain/Emperor/Zombie or Possessed Dragon lol. Probably a feeling similar to that of the Possessed Dragon's head/neck section lol
Project Update #26: A few things to watch/hear if you like.
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I just had a really fun interview with Screaming Heretic! Great people whom I plan to be visiting at Gencon later this year. Check out the show here: http://screamingheretic.com/2014/05/ep-62-creature-caster/
I also did a live sculpting event on my Youtube channel. I do a bunch of concept and design for the Maggot Demon, and show the beginnings of his weapon and head exclusive parts. I finished the show with some coloring as well. I will be doing a bunch of these right thru into the post-campaign, and even some shows that are exclusive to backers only. You can see the recorded show here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPrQAC98p4k
I was just called in to announce a roller derby game tonight, so I have decided to publish the new bundle deals tomorrow. That will be a big update, along with lots of information on the upcoming pledge manager and the introduction of the pledge manager man himself, Kenny. Look forward to that.
Bundles are up, you can swap your models within the same level now. The smallest bundle, which was already available, is now simply listed as Silver-Silver-Silver-Bronze (choose any models in those categories).
Looks like a savings of $20 over adding them individually onto an early bird.
A few local friends asked me about doing a bundle, but I think whether we should do so depends on the free gift... right now, we're thinking to stay separate so we can all get the gift. Any chance we'll find out what it is soon?
Edit: Also, now is a great time to snag an early bird since the bundle update was posted, as people adjust the pledge level they've selected. There was a silver open a moment ago that just got snagged, but there is still a gold early bird open.
@corgan, I was wanting that too, but I think ALOT of people want that and Jeremy would actually lose money rather than attract more backers.
I can't wait till these hit retail. I'm still backing and getting a bronze, silver and gold level, but I WANT more, just finances won't allow right now.
Theophony wrote: @corgan, I was wanting that too, but I think ALOT of people want that and Jeremy would actually lose money rather than attract more backers.
I can't wait till these hit retail. I'm still backing and getting a bronze, silver and gold level, but I WANT more, just finances won't allow right now.
Wow Buttler, that's intense! The top bundle right? Will you be reselling some of them, or using (hoarding?) them all
Also, got an answer on the gift, it will be revealed post-campaign. No worries on my end, I was just curious... will let Jeremy be mysterious on this one for now
Creature Caster wrote:@Tides, I will be unveiling the free gift in the post-campaign. This is because of a few different reasons. It will not be shown beforehand. Sorry about that Tides. Thanks for your pledge.
Edit: And he posted this after!
Creature Caster wrote:The freebie is not going to be a 28mm. It will be larger than that, but not as big as the other models in the catalogue.
Sorry for my vague'ness. The Pledge Manager will launch three weeks after the campaign has ended, in order to have time for everyone to process (I am allowing one week longer than normal just to make sure everyone is ready for the PM) , and then the PM will be up for another long while for backers. In this time, I will have been able to show you the free model, as well as all the exclusive, plus some brand new sculpting on the unlocked models. Our post-campaign is going to be really active, unlike many campaigns that go dark.
RiTides wrote: Wow Buttler, that's intense! The top bundle right? Will you be reselling some of them, or using (hoarding?) them all
Yup, top bundle. Gotta get 1 of each and then use the free models to get extras of the ones that are begging to be converted! And I'll definitely be using them all. I'm trying to get my Warriors of Chaos army to 100,000 points, and naturally I will use every single one of these amazing models as centerpieces for the army. Now if I can just snag a couple more Forge World greater daemons... some of the Ultraforge demons... some Mierce Miniature beasties... Bah, I just want Creature Caster Wave 2 already!!
Alpharius wrote: Still debating on whether or not to stay in on this one.
I love the overall look and quality of the sculpts, but I find my 'counts as' uses for such a large and expensive model are limited...
Because centrepiece might be a good enough reason for some of them - or one of them. Consider whether any of them can comfortable "counts-as" alongside your 40k toys as well as your Mierce ones...
RiTides wrote: Wow Buttler, that's intense! The top bundle right? Will you be reselling some of them, or using (hoarding?) them all
Yup, top bundle. Gotta get 1 of each and then use the free models to get extras of the ones that are begging to be converted!
And I'll definitely be using them all. I'm trying to get my Warriors of Chaos army to 100,000 points, and naturally I will use every single one of these amazing models as centerpieces for the army.
Now if I can just snag a couple more Forge World greater daemons... some of the Ultraforge demons... some Mierce Miniature beasties... Bah, I just want Creature Caster Wave 2 already!!
Out of curiosity- how close are you to your 100k goal?
Out of curiosity- how close are you to your 100k goal?
I believe I'm currently between 60-70k, but I haven't done a full count in quite a long time. I might be lower and I might be higher, but I couldn't say for sure.
Perhaps I'll recount it all in November when I have my army of Creature Caster demons to back up the army!
Well once you hit 100k I'm sure GW will release the next edition and you'll have to recalculate and find yourself at only 80k. Guess you should just preemptive lay order more creature caster models .
Out of curiosity- how close are you to your 100k goal?
I believe I'm currently between 60-70k, but I haven't done a full count in quite a long time. I might be lower and I might be higher, but I couldn't say for sure.
Perhaps I'll recount it all in November when I have my army of Creature Caster demons to back up the army!
That being the case, I imagine you've got just about every able bodied warrior from the northern wastes in that horde.
If you have all twelve of them on the board it's called "playing in the basement because that much resin goodness would drop you and the table through the floor"
Seriously it's why I've had to stay away from mierce figures, my house let alone my bank account couldn't handle them all. That's why I'm just in for three....for now .
Edit: update 28
Project Update #28: Meet Kenny! Plus lots of other updates.
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Meet Kenny! Hey everyone, meet the newest member of the Creature Caster team, Kenny! Kenny is the creator of the Creature Caster Pledge Manager. He has done Pledge Managers for several big Kickstarter campaigns. I will be working in close conjunction with Kenny to ensure that the Pledge Manager is powerful, robust and flexible.
Kenny is a backer, so if you see him in the comment section say hi
Pledge Manager launch date. The PM will launch after a full three weeks has gone by, after the Kickstarter ends. This is in order to make sure that the last payments get cleared by the Amazon checkout process before we open up the PM. You will be notified with an update when it launches. You will then have a good long time to confirm your pledge and tell me exactly what you have pledged towards.
Do not get nervous at all during these three weeks. It is completely normal to wait two or three weeks after a big Kickstarter to let the credit cards clear. I will be commenting and staying engaged during this three week period, and we will have lots of chances to hang out and work on art.
Paypal users. I understand that a lot of your can only use Paypal. You will be able to use the Pledge Manager to make a pledge, after the campaign is over and the three weeks has gone by, and the Pledge Manager appears. You do not need to make a pledge to the campaign in order to qualify to use the PM. Just sign up when you see the PM appear.
Pledge Manager flexibility. The PM will allow you to change your pledge around, and also allows you to add stuff to your pledge as well. You will have plenty of time to noddle around before your pledge is locked in, and you will get several warnings before the PM closes.
BUNDLEMANIA! The new bundles are a hit.
As was mentioned before, you can choose which model you would like, as long as it is in the same LEVEL. This also applies to the CREATURE and DEMON bundles, even tho in the description is says you will get specific models.
You can not downgrade to a lower LEVEL, nor can you combine two lower levels to make a higher LEVEL. This would make for a situation that would be far to difficult to take care of logistically.
Currently, you are not able to pledge on two bundles at once. We might introduce this feature in the Pledge Manager however, so more news on that soon.
We will not be adding any more bundle options to the campaign. There are already a huge amount of ways to save you money in this campaign, and the Optional Extras and free gift models really allow you to make your own bundles.
Shipping. I am reminding everyone AGAIN that you must read the shipping section before making a pledge. You will be send a request for payment once your models are manufactured and are ready to ship.
You must be familiar with the shipping rates with your own country so you have a general idea of what the shipping cost may be.
These miniatures are not manufactured in America, but shipping rates are excellent in America, but be prepared to still pay shipping.
These model will most likely be shipped from several global warehouses, one of which is in the UK. We are almost certain that we can have you avoid paying the VAT, the same as many other successful Kickstarters.
Our shipping charge is not padded, inflated, and we do not gouge or profit with shipping. Your shipment will be as small and light as possible, with attention given to environmental concerns as well.
Parts are still being unlocked! The next parts to be revealed are the Plague Angel parts, Very soon after is the Possessed Dragons parts, and then we get to do lots of Google hangouts to develop our Minion together.
Both the Plague Angel and Possessed Dragons parts will be revealed before the end of the campaign.
The Minion will not, as this is something for us to do together during the post campaign.
Super Secret Model! Yes, each backer that is receiving an actual physical package in the mail with receive one special exclusive super secret model, free of charge.
One per pledge if the backer is receiving physical models. No exceptions. There is no way to buy more, nor will this be available in retail. It is a free gift, so just enjoy it.
This model is larger than a 28mm miniature, and smaller than a demon.
This model is pretty fun I will see you in the comment section. Only a few more days to go! It has been really amazing, and I will give you a full breakdown and report once the campaign finishes, and we can then start a really fun post-campaign. I want to keep the lines of communication as open as they have been during the campaign.
Ugh, it's going to be that Canadian Chimera isn't it. Don't get me wrong, I always appreciate the intent behind free stuff, but I have absolutely zero use for "fun" and/or "quirky" models. Ah well, maybe I'll be able to cut even further into the price of my daemon by ebaying the freebie.
Yodhrin wrote: Ugh, it's going to be that Canadian Chimera isn't it. Don't get me wrong, I always appreciate the intent behind free stuff, but I have absolutely zero use for "fun" and/or "quirky" models. Ah well, maybe I'll be able to cut even further into the price of my daemon by ebaying the freebie.
Well he's not confirmed it, so let's not get our knickers in a twist over something that hasn't happened yet.
Well, if the 40k rumors are true about any army being able to summon greater deamons if they take a certain psychic discipline, Creature Caster's market just got a lot bigger
I think allowing people to join via Paypal after the campaign is over, as you've planned, is a really good idea in this regard! (Since the new 40k rules won't truly be known until the end of May)
If you mean height-wise, generally people are OK with a model having a larger LOS profile (as that is a disadvantage in-game) as long as it fits on the correct base.
I'm about ready to bail on this KS. I get the feeling the free mini is going to be fun but dumb. I collect minis but also use them in my games. These models are too big for my games. The detail is fantastic. But, I keep asking myself, Do I really need them. I'm still considering.
This isn't a rage quit. I was hoping for a good reason to stay with this. I went in for the Gold but should have gone for the Demons. I really don't have a use for miniatures this big. I mainly play RPG.
Ken Oakley wrote: This isn't a rage quit. I was hoping for a good reason to stay with this. I went in for the Gold but should have gone for the Demons. I really don't have a use for miniatures this big. I mainly play RPG.
Not being very familiar with P&P RPGs, how can something be too big in such an abstract game environment?
If nothing else they would make for great centerpiece idols for false gods if you use minis and a map. Just build a cult around one of these demons for your game world and this can be representing the aspect of the god in the temple. Or have your campaign world be ruled by one of these cults and your characters are out to discredit/show the true horrors of this religion. The "evil" god can imbue these artifacts with power and "life" so the party runs into this model quite frequently. Or the party's main antagonis is just really huge. Recall the old 1980s d&d cartoon and how often Tiamat showed up. These dragons to me are betters scaled(in multiple ways) than the old dragon figures I had from way back.
In the end can you afford it? Can you use it or enjoy looking at it sitting in your cabinet? And lastly can you explain to your wife why you bought it without "well you buy all those shoes!" Coming out of your mouth. If not then withdraw your pledge, it's cheaper than a divorce lawyer or a proctologist to remove the dragon when you use the above line .
Alpharius wrote: FW's Greater Daemons are a bad example - they're too big too!
Wait, those are the official models, how could they possibly be too big? We keep hearing all the time how Forgeworld and GW are the same company... FW models are totally usable as Greater Daemons, and Creature Caster's actually fit on the correct base size much better than even FW's do.
@Theophony: You are truly a wise soul. To be honest my wife is getting a little fed up with KSers. I have to be careful what I get into and make sure it's worth a divorce. I'm still on the fence with this one. Don't get me wrong, the value is there and the quality is there. So is the cool factor. Man, I need to stop , I'm about to talk myself into this.
Automatically Appended Next Post: What is a Candaian Chimera?
It's just a joke idea from the comments, I really doubt it's going to be the free model, personally! Creature Caster has said the free model is "fun", larger than 28mm but smaller than the models in the campaign. But I think it will still be something useful, personally (everything else he has made is).
I think I'll be painting my Mountain Dragon a bit like this..
For those of you not familiar with the character, his name is Bryagh from Flight of Dragons. If you've not seen this animated movie- look for it on YouTube. Brilliant voice acting (including a certain gentleman who later went to voice Darth Vader )
The pic of the Canadian chimera from the comments section of the KS. Done by Lee c. I believe, it was someone's suggestion and a bunch of us ran with it. It's shown in one of the videos and Jeremy really got a kick out of it. There was talk about each wave that Jeremy does should have a chimera from around the world.
Anyway....
Tail of the beaver, heads of a caribou, wolf and polar bear. Wings were not settled in the pic, but optional saddle for the Canadian Mountie. And of course a maple leaf and beer.
I wish there was a bundle for 2 Golds and a Bronze because I'd be all over it. I'm wanting the Possessed Dragon as it hearkens directly to Dark Souls (actual boss spoiler if you haven't played):
Spoiler:
I think I did poop a little when I first met that guy...
I'm thinking Possessed Dragon + XXXX Dragon + Treewalker. I don't foresee having armies to use them in. Maybe if Bretonnia gets a Dragon? All I can think of is a diorama of a lone knight squaring off against the Possess Dragon in a Dark Souls~ish theme.
I really hope he gets the "Riderless" option. I have no interest in having a dude mount that thing.
Thing is, I am still going to give out whatever free model I want, even at the risk of sounding callous. It is my way to thank the backers. It was never supposed to be perceived as an incentive. I really should have waited until the end of the campaign to let people know, but you live you learn.
I want to genuinely thank everyone here on Dakka for being amazing, especially those who helped share information, keep things on track, quell rebellions, etc. Tomorrow I will be doing another Google hangout, this time a little earlier in my time zone (12 noon Pacific time, LA, Vancouver) and I will thank you there as well, plus we can talk about some cool stuff. I will post links here and on the Kickstarter comment section plus the Facebook as well.
CreatureCaster wrote: Thing is, I am still going to give out whatever free model I want...
I would not wish it any other way.
That said I would love to see the Canadian chimera at one point. I like the idea of an chimera made out of the non traditional parts, and the wolf/bear/moose/beaver mix could be quite cool.
Have the moose/caribou head a bit Preyton like, the Wolf a bit Dire Wolfish and the Bear er... what do they have for that? Beaver maybe some sort of spiked paddle tail. For wings maybe have a some sort of vestigial Loonie wings (google it, Loonies are printed on their $1 coins)
Alpharius wrote: FW's Greater Daemons are a bad example - they're too big too!
Wait, those are the official models, how could they possibly be too big? We keep hearing all the time how Forgeworld and GW are the same company... FW models are totally usable as Greater Daemons, and Creature Caster's actually fit on the correct base size much better than even FW's do.
Because in my opinion they're too big - for what I'd want?
Are are you legislating opinions now too?!?
Anyway, I dropped my silver pledge yesterday - these models are just too big for what I'd want, but this campaign is alrready wildly successful, so congrats to CC!
I'll be at the dentist when that hang out happens. Darn kids needing check ups and braces, think of all the models I could have with no dentist bills, I think my kids would look cute without teeth.
Possessed dragon upgrades were posted. The tongue looks like it will be really awesome, as does the riderless kit for him. Super stoked about this model!
Alpharius wrote: FW's Greater Daemons are a bad example - they're too big too!
Wait, those are the official models, how could they possibly be too big? We keep hearing all the time how Forgeworld and GW are the same company... FW models are totally usable as Greater Daemons, and Creature Caster's actually fit on the correct base size much better than even FW's do.
No those are forge world special character greater demons that originally represented Apocalypse level gargantuan creatures. The "official" models are the metal/Finecast GUO, Bloodthirster, Lord of Change and Keeper of Secrets. Models which Creature Caster's previous incarnation, Ultra Forge, made suitable alternative models which fit the size and aesthetic of more so than the FW gargantuan Daemons. Tournaments have evolved to allow the FW versions as suitable stand ins simply for the sake of the rule of cool, but in nearly all situations the FW Daemons are a disadvantage on the table due to their size making them much more difficult target to hide.
I am also choosing not to back Creature Caster because the models are not a significantly cheaper alternative to the existing models available from FW and I am a 40k daemon player so that is what I would be using them for. I already own the ultra forge versions and love them but the price tag on these isn't going to have me purchasing more versions of the same model that will also be putting me at a greater disadvantage on the table.
@necronlord3, I think your missing the conversion chart for pricing if you don see the difference in prices.
FW keeper of secrets, 165mm tall, 90.50£= $153usd. Shipping not included
CC spider demon, 160mm tall , $75CAD= $70usd. Shipping not included(but you'll get a free model also)
Both are roughly same size as the FW demon is measured to the to of her raised arm.
I understand your dilemma with them being larger targets and I'm not criticizing your decision, but couldn't you have these models be you centerpiece for a display, and field the other models so your not penalized for their size?
I've also seen other comments about not being able to use them because they aren't GW models. I guess since I don't do tournaments, I have the luxury of using whatever I like, and I know I like these over other models I've seen (finecast/metal keeper o secrets, newer version is ugly in my opinion, I have one of the older ones that is more four armed Minotaur with boobs).
I wish I had more funds to throw down on these now, but I'll get more once they are at retail .
I'm going to get one. Just not sure which. I prefer the mierce alternatives to the LOC, converted my own GUO so I am torn between the BT or the Kos, which neither of I may play until the next fantasy book comes, however models are amazing.
I'm not sure why anyone would penalise you for having a giant DAEMON (=MAGIC ENTITY). Daemons can take any shape or size of their choosing, so I think these models would be just fine on the battlefield. OK they'll attract A LOT of attention, but I think it adds to a games' narrative of David and Goliath kinda confrontation.
The models fit on the 60mm bases that the GW Greater Daemons fit on. In fact, Jeremy specifically designed them that way so they would be compatible with game systems like Warhammer Fantasy and 40k. I'm really not getting why people are so hung up on their sizes.
I'd think it's because this forum is much more 40k-centric than Fantasy, and therefore LOS issues are much more important. Not sure how much it effects the current verison of fantasy in terms of directfire spells or warmachines, etc.
Darth Bob wrote: The models fit on the 60mm bases that the GW Greater Daemons fit on. In fact, Jeremy specifically designed them that way so they would be compatible with game systems like Warhammer Fantasy and 40k. I'm really not getting why people are so hung up on their sizes.
Besides, everyone knows bigger is better.
In a game with 'True Line of Sight', the height of the model can play a significant role as well. Some of these demons might for example be able to see over the top of a bastion, whereas the real models can completely hide behind one. Also, just in terms of aesthetics, the GW greater daemons are ~3 times as tall as one of their models, so look suitably imposing but still reasonable. A model twice that size beings to look disproportionately huge, to the point of being out of scale.
In a game with 'True Line of Sight', the height of the model can play a significant role as well. Some of these demons might for example be able to see over the top of a bastion, whereas the real models can completely hide behind one. Also, just in terms of aesthetics, the GW greater daemons are ~3 times as tall as one of their models, so look suitably imposing but still reasonable. A model twice that size beings to look disproportionately huge, to the point of being out of scale.
Fair enough, but I think at that point it becomes a matter of asking yourself "do I want to avoid getting an awesome model simply because I want to min-max my gameplay?" I mean, Greater Daemons come in all sizes, so the "out of scale" argument doesn't really make much sense to me; especially when Forge World has put out comparatively (or exceedingly) large models representing the Greater Daemons. Yes, you can say that they are meant to represent the Apocalypse special characters, but if that were really the case they wouldn't be named with the generic name on the website. It's clear that they're intended to be used for either. I get that some people don't want to handicap their gameplay experience by getting models that won't get cover saves, but I've never been one to base my purchases on something that arbitrary. To each their own, I guess, but I find it a bit silly. Then again, I enjoy models more for the hobby than the gaming, so I can understand the gamers' reprehension.
Theophony wrote: I've also seen other comments about not being able to use them because they aren't GW models. I guess since I don't do tournaments, I have the luxury of using whatever I like, and I know I like these over other models I've seen (finecast/metal keeper o secrets, newer version is ugly in my opinion, I have one of the older ones that is more four armed Minotaur with boobs).
I wish I had more funds to throw down on these now, but I'll get more once they are at retail .
I'm surprised at anyone thinking they can't use a model because it isn't GW, I've not heard of anywhere but GW stores and Warhammer World enforcing that nowadays, can't see much reason to enforce it nor an incentive to any more. Which begs the question why on earth would you want to play in a GW store any more, if that's your only option it's time to look into forming a club and renting out a village hall or the like, assuming you don't have a local or don't just play at home.
I could understand not wanting to use the models in a tournament (sort of), if you're worried about hiding them, but for general pickup games and the sheer gorgeousness of them as a centrepiece how could one say no, I mean the spider daemon comes to just shy of £41, the ancient, tiny and less than up to date (pretty ugly) keeper of secrets in finecast is £36 there's just no comparison.
Theophony wrote: I've also seen other comments about not being able to use them because they aren't GW models. I guess since I don't do tournaments, I have the luxury of using whatever I like, and I know I like these over other models I've seen (finecast/metal keeper o secrets, newer version is ugly in my opinion, I have one of the older ones that is more four armed Minotaur with boobs).
I wish I had more funds to throw down on these now, but I'll get more once they are at retail .
I'm surprised at anyone thinking they can't use a model because it isn't GW, I've not heard of anywhere but GW stores and Warhammer World enforcing that nowadays, can't see much reason to enforce it nor an incentive to any more. Which begs the question why on earth would you want to play in a GW store any more, if that's your only option it's time to look into forming a club and renting out a village hall or the like, assuming you don't have a local or don't just play at home.
I could understand not wanting to use the models in a tournament (sort of), if you're worried about hiding them, but for general pickup games and the sheer gorgeousness of them as a centrepiece how could one say no, I mean the spider daemon comes to just shy of £41, the ancient, tiny and less than up to date (pretty ugly) keeper of secrets in finecast is £36 there's just no comparison.
Its even less of a choice when you are using OZ pricing.
$100 or so for a sculpt from the 90s made of a material that bends under its own weight in our summer, or $70-80ish for something twice as big, four times as pretty, and made of a real material.
Theophony wrote: I've also seen other comments about not being able to use them because they aren't GW models. I guess since I don't do tournaments, I have the luxury of using whatever I like, and I know I like these over other models I've seen (finecast/metal keeper o secrets, newer version is ugly in my opinion, I have one of the older ones that is more four armed Minotaur with boobs).
I wish I had more funds to throw down on these now, but I'll get more once they are at retail .
I'm surprised at anyone thinking they can't use a model because it isn't GW, I've not heard of anywhere but GW stores and Warhammer World enforcing that nowadays, can't see much reason to enforce it nor an incentive to any more. Which begs the question why on earth would you want to play in a GW store any more, if that's your only option it's time to look into forming a club and renting out a village hall or the like, assuming you don't have a local or don't just play at home.
I could understand not wanting to use the models in a tournament (sort of), if you're worried about hiding them, but for general pickup games and the sheer gorgeousness of them as a centrepiece how could one say no, I mean the spider daemon comes to just shy of £41, the ancient, tiny and less than up to date (pretty ugly) keeper of secrets in finecast is £36 there's just no comparison.
Its even less of a choice when you are using OZ pricing.
$100 or so for a sculpt from the 90s made of a material that bends under its own weight in our summer, or $70-80ish for something twice as big, four times as pretty, and made of a real material.
Wow yeah that's definitely a no brainer then, it's always interesting how this international business affects prices, I skipped the secret weapon boards KS because even at KS prices it was more expensive than a realm of battle board over here. My finecast daemons bent under British summer heat last year in an indoor display case at least one room away from being outside, I hate to think what an Aussie summer does to the material.
I was just thinking while reading the "no gamesday 2014" thread. How about Jeremy designs the next "treasure demon" it could be a silver sized limited piece of work for conventions as a prize for best paint jobs. More humanoid(though the warrior demon in a different pose could work), instead of standing on a big rock it could stand on a treasure chest of gold holding a sword with both hands above its head. Holding the pommel and blade triumphantly claiming it. The demon could be available for sale too, but have the weapon be different. Or the contest version could be holding up a giant paintbrush and the retail have the sword.
Just a crazy idea, but it could get Jeremy/creature casters name out there more at larger cons.
23 hours left to go. Jeremy said he'd be live on the net the last hour of the campaign, sounds like fun. Hopefully the mothers in his life don't get too upset with him . But as he's birthing his second company it can be his day too I guess.
Last moments of the campaign are under way. Everyone seems very well informed and happy, and this to me is the most important thing. This is the antithesis of the add-as-much-stuff-as-you-can campaign, and this has resulted in a very nice vibe around camp. Thank you very much to the ambassadors for helping spreading the word, and thank you to the Dakkaite for informative conversation and excellent feedback. I am basically going to be spending the next day thanking everyone profusely, so please bear with me.
I will be closing out the campaign live tomorrow. Links will be posted here, comment section, and facebook, It is mothers days, so I do not expect everyone to be there for that reason, but you can always watch the show later. If you miss it, just picture a person in a huddled ball on their living room floor, weeping and sobbing thru words of gratitude.
Theophony wrote: @necronlord3, I think your missing the conversion chart for pricing if you don see the difference in prices.
FW keeper of secrets, 165mm tall, 90.50£= $153usd. Shipping not included
CC spider demon, 160mm tall , $75CAD= $70usd. Shipping not included(but you'll get a free model also)
Both are roughly same size as the FW demon is measured to the to of her raised arm.
I understand your dilemma with them being larger targets and I'm not criticizing your decision, but couldn't you have these models be you centerpiece for a display, and field the other models so your not penalized for their size?
I've also seen other comments about not being able to use them because they aren't GW models. I guess since I don't do tournaments, I have the luxury of using whatever I like, and I know I like these over other models I've seen (finecast/metal keeper o secrets, newer version is ugly in my opinion, I have one of the older ones that is more four armed Minotaur with boobs).
I wish I had more funds to throw down on these now, but I'll get more once they are at retail .
No I'm referring to sources other than FW which produce the same models at a higher quality than FW/GW produces resin miniatures and at about half the price.
Also one of the best builds and strategies with Daemons right now, is to combine the with a skyshield landing pad. The space on that pad is limited and I want the smallest legal base size possible, not a larger model at a disadvantage.
Also one of the best builds and strategies with Daemons right now, is to combine the with a skyshield landing pad. The space on that pad is limited and I want the smallest legal base size possible, not a larger model at a disadvantage.
The smallest legal base size for a Greater Daemon is 60mm, which all the Creature Caster demons fit on. Sure, the models are bigger, but they still fit on relatively small bases.
Comparing Creature Caster models to recasts isn't really fair (or even allowed on Dakka) Necronlord3. And if you're trying to minimize your LOS profile, these obviously aren't for you... the GW models probably are, though.
RiTides wrote: Comparing Creature Caster models to recasts isn't really fair (or even allowed on Dakka) Necronlord3. And if you're trying to minimize your LOS profile, these obviously aren't for you... the GW models probably are, though.
Get some of the original Greater Daemon models circa '89 in that case.
RiTides wrote: Comparing Creature Caster models to recasts isn't really fair (or even allowed on Dakka) Necronlord3. And if you're trying to minimize your LOS profile, these obviously aren't for you... the GW models probably are, though.
I'm not comparing anything or publicly redirecting anyone to copyright infringing websites( per the Dakka rules). I am simply pointing out that their are alternatives to the FW models available at a cheaper price than even the creature caster models. The ultra forge models also fit this niche market by offering a product superior to the metal greater daemons available the time at a similar or cheaper price and definitely a cheaper alternative to FW. CC doesn't seem to be fulfilling a particular market need other than to have some cool daemon models. But as a player of 40k, I would only be using these models for that purpose, and therefore it doesn't appeal to me.
That is true. There are a variety of different price points. My stuff fits in between a few popular price points. There is no one-size-fits-all price.
I personally modify any LOS with a house rule that uses the base locations, not the bits sticking up. In my mind, an infantry miniature is a representation of an intelligent and trained agent that is crouching, flattening on walls, looking around corners, using cover, etc. That is just a personal view, and I understand that the leading tabletop systems use LOS rules.
My models aren't for everyone. I am okay with that
TBH, they'll be available retail by the time I'm in a position to actually paint them!
It would have been nice to have saved a few quid, but I'm less gutted about this than the Mierce one which I had to drop from because of the same, as yet still unresolved, issue.
'grats Jeremy, a solid campaign all around. My payment cleared immediately, so now the race is on; what will arrive first, your Vulture Daemon, or my Raging Heroes stuff from the campaign that ended a year ago?
Woot, congratulations Jeremy. Can't wait to follow the post-campaign and get a look at the exclusive miniature for backers! Now for the notoriously difficult decision of which demons I want to get when the post-campaign survey pops up...
Thanks again for your support guys. I really appreciate the conversation here on Dakka, and thanks for sharing information back and forth from the comments/updates to the thread.
A lot of the conversations will take place on the facebook, but I am still going to be here on Dakka posting as well. I do not expect you to have to join the facebook if this is your preferred place to comment, critique, send ideas, etc. Having said that, I will probably start a new thread titled "Creature Caster Work in Progress" once I have my first batch of stuff to show you. Look forward to that. Thanks again for all of your support during the campaign.
A "work in progress" thread is probably a good idea, once you have that going!
And I dearly regret your having to get pulled into commenting more on the KS page than here once things really got rolling, although that was for the good of the campaign.
But I do think this is a good venue for some deeper discussion than the KS comment format (complete with no ability to edit!) at times can allow, so I hope you'll keep checking in and sharing your thoughts here
Yeah, Misc Minis would be where I'd have put it. Sometimes odd things happen like that, Secret Weapon Tablescapes is in here as well. Myth, despite being a boardgame is in Misc Minis games.
Thank you, I <3 it too lol! Also thank you on the answer, I hope they do. I'd like to get a hold of some of these. I want them just so I can paint them and put in my cabinet!
Paypal users. I understand that a lot of your can only use Paypal. You will be able to use the Pledge Manager to make a pledge, after the campaign is over and the three weeks has gone by, and the Pledge Manager appears. You do not need to make a pledge to the campaign in order to qualify to use the PM. Just sign up when you see the PM appear.
Note that a later update said it would be at least 30 days until the pledge manager comes out.
So far I've backed 3 Mierce KS and this one, I have to say so far I much prefer the Mierce KS with weekly updates and an active thread here on Dakka (I don't use FB so I dunno what there is for CC over there. I'm subbed to CC youtube but there's no interaction there and vids are infrequent. The latest one is advertising other people's KS stuff. CC kickstarter page doesn't send me many updates either). My CC pledge is expected to be fulfilled for November 2014, does anyone with more knowledge know how it's shaping up?
Jeremy's community interaction before and during the Kickstarter was phenomenal, but it did seem to drop off quite a lot post-Kickstarter. The FB page doesn't receive much love, and obviously neither do the various forums.
I hope this is a result of them working hard on getting stuff pumped out (something I'm sure they're doing), but I do agree that more frequent updates would be much more satisfying.
The Pledge Manager seems to be going up far later than anticipated, and I doubt that November is still going to be the month of arrival, but I have faith in the Creature Caster crew, so we shall see.
Jeremy has done great business wise with his previous company ultraforge, so I trust him here. I too am very disappointed by the drop off of updates and comments, but it's to be expected when he is not trying to bump up the kickstarter total and just needs to focus on the models. Also he mentioned somewhere that they were still fixing possible issues with the pledge manager, so that's why that's not out yet. I think he's also holding back on that more so he can wow people with the final designs and get a bigger bump from the pledge manager while also providing pics of everything so we don't hear "Man I would have ordered that too if I knew it was going to be so good." Or "I wish I'd have seen the final sculpt before finalizing my order so I could have passed on xxxxxx"
SlaveToDorkness wrote: Can we hold off on the moaning until it's actually late? Aren't there plenty of other KS threads that actually deserve some bellyaching?
Can we hold off on the moaning until people are actually moaning? Aren't there plenty of other KS threads that actually deserve some bellyaching about bellyaching?
Pointing out factual information and saying you're a wee bit disappointed is hardly moaning, nor is it unreasonable. The guy isn't accusing Jeremy of crimes against humanity ffs.
Theophony wrote: Jeremy has done great business wise with his previous company ultraforge, so I trust him here. I too am very disappointed by the drop off of updates and comments, but it's to be expected when he is not trying to bump up the kickstarter total and just needs to focus on the models. Also he mentioned somewhere that they were still fixing possible issues with the pledge manager, so that's why that's not out yet. I think he's also holding back on that more so he can wow people with the final designs and get a bigger bump from the pledge manager while also providing pics of everything so we don't hear "Man I would have ordered that too if I knew it was going to be so good." Or "I wish I'd have seen the final sculpt before finalizing my order so I could have passed on xxxxxx"
done great with ultraforge? They made like 4-8 models, had to pull there version of the GUO, sold it off and that company let ultraforge go under (probably intentionally, by a dummy corp. from GW). So hope you enjoy cc and if you hope it is run like ultraforge keep that in mind.
SlaveToDorkness wrote: Can we hold off on the moaning until it's actually late? Aren't there plenty of other KS threads that actually deserve some bellyaching?
Can we hold off on the moaning until people are actually moaning? Aren't there plenty of other KS threads that actually deserve some bellyaching about bellyaching?
Pointing out factual information and saying you're a wee bit disappointed is hardly moaning, nor is it unreasonable. The guy isn't accusing Jeremy of crimes against humanity ffs.
Yeah like I say I've only had experience of a couple of KS and the others I'm in are very satisfying as far as updates and on-time delivery etc are concerned. If this is more par for the course (infrequent and mostly inconsequential contact) then that's fine. I'm not worried, and from what I've seen the product looks great, but it would be nice to see a little more consistency of information by CC.
Arcane Factories has severed all ties with Creature Caster due to creative differences.
What this means - this will not effect our sculpting, prototyping, designing and other freelance contracts. This will also not effect our Kickstarter miniatures as we move forward.
Production will continue as normal.
-Justin
Arrrggggh, why did you choose to work with these guys? What does this mean for your timeline?
Reading up a bit more, I'm glad they cut ties- Arcane Factories is too new/unknown. Looking forward to seeing Jeremy do these all himself, instead.
I'm looking forward to hearing something about this one, or the Pledge Manager, or something. I'm very disappointed with the turn that communication took here.
I think a November fulfilment date is clearly out of the question now.
Yeah. I guess it's because Jeremy actually seemed pretty genuine and appeared to not be full of the usual bs. Trust no-one, I guess.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just had a trawl through the comments. On August 2nd Jeremy notes that perhaps Wave shipping would be a good idea. Which will naturally either bump the gak out of shipping costs, or result in the usual 6-8-12-month delays in people getting any of their gak.
Same old, same old, I guess...
Just glad I dropped down from my huge initial pledge (due to finances, not due to butthurt - though it seems like it's the best way to go across the board now...
Yeah, honestly about 8-12 months ago I really felt like I had missed out on tons of awesome kickstarters because I am pretty trigger shy when it comes to spending money on product that doesn't exist yet. But now, there aren't any kickstarters out there that I wish I had pledged for. Not a one. I definitely regret several.
I'm sure Jeremy is a fine fellow, but the incentives definitely change once they have your money, and people respond to incentives.
Project Update #39: Back from "JenCon" Posted by Jeremy Glen ♥ Like
Whew! GenCon is huge, and was a whirlwind. There is no way to take in everything that is going on. There is just too much. The best thing about the convention was making great connections with some amazing people.
Here is the text contents of the vid:
http://youtu.be/yfKgvMTSn74 GenCon was great. Talked with a bunch of Creature Caster backers. Met some amazing people.
Special thanks to Joe and Jen from Screaming Heretic
Pledge Manager beginning testing. We will test it ourselves this week, plus contact about a dozen CC backers to have an early go at the PM, for testing and feedback.
Coffeegate continues. I have to replace the motherboard and graphics card in my computer. All files are being transferred back to my old computer. Sculpting will resume and update pics are inbound.
Updates will be more frequent starting next week, once everything has gotten transferred over and is back in motion.
Thanks to everyone for contributing their thoughts to the comment section. I will do a live hangout perhaps this Sunday, with a Q and A session. I will be on Friday night to let you know the exact time of that hangout.
Alpharius wrote: Has he mentioned in the comments section or in other places just where he's been, and what he's been up to since the communication kind of stopped?
I loosely follow the KS comments. He spilled coffee on his computer and has been trying to get that up and going. The PM is almost complete and will be going through tests this week. We all kind of dog piled him on the comments page about lack of follow ups, and why I believe he sent out this update. We also mentioned wanting quick write ups and pics instead of constant beetle babbles(which he keeps doing), the update has a link to a write up about the video, so he does listen to the feedback.
New machine, transfer the HDDs/SSDs(or enterprise-class RAID) over, install software, then send the old one to the shop and have a second machine for back-up use/rendering back in 2-3 weeks.
He showed progress on the Tree Woman, and in previous chats he's showed progress on the Plague Angel. He's stated numerous times that he doesn't really enjoy showing off models that aren't finished, as it doesn't show them how they're meant to be. It's totally understandable in my opinion.
I got invited with about 10 folks to test the pledge manager. Having a bit of trouble with it now, actually but it's being tweaked! Overall it should work fine, but it's their own thing rather than using (and paying) a service, I believe.
Didn't see this posted yet, but new KS update with a WIP of the tree woman.
Sculpted all morning. The Treewalker went from being detailed to getting an extreme detail pass. You can see the beginnings of which in the head and shoulder, and soon it will all be detailed in this way.
Areas yet to be detailed are the smooth ones, like the chest and belly. These will have a more thin bark-like texture. The "armored" areas get the thicker branch'ier bits.
Another short while on the Walker, then I can show you the Maggot. I know you have a fave model you want to see, and I will be showing each in the future.
I will be doing a sculpting diary so you can see lots more WIP pics. If you would rather not get these updates in your email, let me know in the comments.
In the last few days my tooth has been giving me a lot of trouble. I will be back in the clinic next week getting work done. It has been pretty miserable but I can still sculpt the day away
Project Update #43: Pledge Manager has arrived!
Posted by Jeremy Glen ♥ Like
https://www.skykadia.com/creature-caster/ ... and here is a little vid which talks about the PM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSASoG80o5Y&feature=youtu.be If you were part of the campaign, go ahead and fill in your info and start choosing your miniatures. Then lock in and you are all set.
If you did not make it to the campaign in time, good news! Just 'create an account' on the PM and you are ready to make your own pledge.
If you are adding to an existing pledge, or making and entirely new one, the Paypal checkout will be there to make things quick and easy.
If you have any questions, post them here or in the Kickstarter comments section. Other backer will be a huge help, plus I will help out as often as I can.
Placed my order, just an early bird silver, if this was up in the original stated time it would have been more, but other things bought since then meant less going into it.
I'm not sure whether to go in big or not anymore - or just let my minimal pledge rot. I've been seriously unimpressed with the Way Jeremy has handled it all post-KS. All this talk of wave shipping, etc, and everything about how he'd done his homework for delivery in November, now it's looking more like the typical Kickstarter bs and November 2015...
How's this looking? I honestly don't know what's going on. Jeremy does some work on the drawing files sometimes and that's pretty much all I know from the updates. Will we get our stuff in November? Has anyone got any info about manufacturing / shipping etc?
The company that's doing the 3D Prints always seem to be 2-4 weeks behind their estimates which is what's slowing down the process. Jeremy has been really transparent and upfront with those who pledged, so I have faith that it shouldn't be too far behind schedule, but at this point it seem out of his hands.
That said, I asked in a live stream if it would be around January or February until we got the models and while he didn't directly say it would be, it was heavily indicated. Basically as soon as the remaining models are sculpted and the prints are made, it's all easy going from there.
I'm concerned about the time this is taking. I support jeremy, but he's been working on just the plague angel and the tree woman for weeks....WEEKS. What about all the other models? Plus he keeps working on his computer which he spilled coffee on, he needs to get a new system and show more work. I'm only in for the pincer demon as the funds weren't available for more, but I hope he gets a move on. He has mentioned wave shipping, but not sure how that will happen.
The whole "computer repair" thing just seems like a bad, bs excuse at this point. Pull the HDDs and get a new computer built, transfer your software licences and you're golden. No need for a new monitor, stylus, KBM, etc. There's well over a quarter of a million dollars pledged and clear after Amazon/KS fees.
I'm in agreement with Theo-I confess I'm getting cold feet about this also. I'd like to know that the models are being made now that he's taken my money. Sculpting videos are all well and good, but I'd like to see evidence of a return on my pledge. I may have been waiting a good long while on Heresy's super duper dragon but I at least know he's rolling them out and get frequent updates on production.
I've yet to do the pledge manager because I'm massively torn. I'd love to add more of them to my pledge based on the renders but it seems communication has gone from non-stop personal updates to a few hangouts that aren't really all that useful for what most backers are after. No replies since May in this thread from Jeremy and the last one on facebook was early September and that was just a pledge manager announcement. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in risking more money on what previously felt like an incredibly safe bet from a recognisable industry figure. Especially since as others have mentioned 'coffeegate' should have been solved almost instantly with this level of funding slushing around.
I want to believe, but it's a bit of a struggle right now, a big update or some sort of visible timeline would go a long long way to restoring backer confidence.
If you're questioning adding extra, you've got the answer right there,
you already have doubts and they will only get worse as you wait for communication (which Creature Caster does not seem inclined to provide)
so giving them more money is probably just going to cause you grief, so probably just assign the money you pledged and wait for retail for anything else as you'll sleep better
(I'm actually a bit disappointed with the lack of follow up on this one as there was so much talk during the KS it seemed as if they'd keep it up afterwards)
I feel like my forced drop to a token $1 pledge due to bills was a bullet dodged. It looks like this is going to wave shipping as well, which can only be bad news with this being one of those "pay for actual shipping costs when we ship" campaigns. Remember, it's supposed to be delivered next month. It won't be, obviously. The excuses are "coffee on my computer" and "the 3d printer is taking longer than they said". It's just a normal KS where the creator spins as much BS as they can to get as much money as they can upfront, and then every issue becomes everyone else's fault. He talked a better front end, but the computer thing just removes any trust I had for the guy, given how easily it can be fixed by someone with NO computer knowledge for a relatively modest sum in the scope of this KS - take it to a computer store for them to fix while also buying a new machine. I just hope for you guys who stayed in that it doesn't turn out to be Imbrian MK2.
Creator Jeremy Glen 1 day ago
Computer is getting wiped and all the software will be re-installed today. I would have replaced the computer a while ago, but each attempt at fixing it was supposed to work, and the hardware in it is state-of-the-art. Knowing what I know now I would have done things different, but such is life.
Last week was a really dark week. Sunday was a huge bummer, as the live show was unwatchable. Not a good time for me. After the new computer rig gets on track I will be able to broadcast and even sculpt while broadcasting. That will make the whole waiting-for-modes-to-get-finished stage a lot more fun for everyone.
So far, the pledge manager does not have a closing date, but there will be a bajillion warnings before it closes. There might even be a possibility for a re-opening for newer models, or a final tweak stage. For now, treat is like it will be your last chance to lock tho.
.... and no liquids next to the new computer please Finished Plague Angel updates before the end of the week.
See? Getting wiped and a complete reinstall. Think this time it will be fixed? By the way, would you like to buy some magic beans?
He shows Vrock prints and Pincer Demon prints as well as the Warrior Demon and Spider Demon. I think Jeremy has been very genuine and transparent in what is going on. Professionally speaking I would have replaced the computer by now. In my experience I haven't had any kickstarter campaign deliver on time. There is no way to foresee all of the problems that can cause delays.
I have started looking at kickstarter campaigns differently. Now knowing that whatever I'm pledging for is probably months to over a year out once you factor in inevitable delays, no matter what the projected timeline is, I look at how much of a discount I'm getting as a backer vs. just buying them retail later. I'm less and less inclined to pre-pay for minis I won't see for a year or two. I mean if you pledge $500 on something and they keep your money for a year or more before you have anything to show for it you have to think of what you could do with that money if you had it all that time. So for people looking at doing future campaigns you have to ask yourself are they giving you enough of a discount and/or enough freebies to justify having your money tied up for an indeterminate amount of time.
I've been meaning to ask, but has he said anything about if he will cast and ship things out in stages? I only pledged for a silver EB, had been thinking about upgrading in the PM but my gut feeling (and financial situation) spoke against it, so I decided to just stick with a warrior demon. This was his first completed sculpt I believe, but am I still likely to have to wait on delivery until the plague angels, tree women and whatnot are also done?
I'm not too worried....yet. However people are right that the computer excuse is starting to wear a bit thin now - he's been saying that sculpting has continued unabated on his older machine, so even accepting that he'd have to devote more time than expected to poking the overdue 3D print company and dealing with the new PC issues, I don't understand why he couldn't have dropped a few picture & text updates while awaiting the new machine's repair.
Today I was do some finishing touches on the Vulture Demon print. Really satisfying to dry-fit him together and stand him up. Tomorrow it is the Pincer Demon! Day after is Warrior. Day after is video!
Spoiler:
Was on the 15th. No update video and today is the 18th...
SlaveToDorkness wrote: Personally I'd rather he spend his time sculpting stuff instead of constantly updating things.
Yeah, no. This discussion was had in the Raging Heroes thread/debacle - hitting "Print Screen" a few times during one of your sculpting sessions, cropping the images in paint, and posting "hey guys, here's where we're at with X model, no news on the 3D prints yet I'll keep you in the loop" takes all of two minutes effort, and expending that level of effort every few days or once a week is not "constantly" updating. Hell he wastes an hour+ every weekend with those hangouts that are 90% chatting and personal banter, 10% actual news about the KS in most cases, asking he spend an extra couple of minutes to post that relevant 10% as text & pics on the KS page is hardly monstrously unreasonable.
I agree on the Google Hangouts issue. I'd rather hear about where he is with production than watch him sculpt for an hour+ on a web chat. Dolly production progress info please
angelofvengeance wrote: I agree on the Google Hangouts issue. I'd rather hear about where he is with production than watch him sculpt for an hour+ on a web chat. Dolly production progress info please
Hey don't get me wrong, I actually quite enjoy the hangouts, Jeremy is a personable bloke and his enthusiasm is infectious, but they're a piss-poor method of communicating the status of the project with backers. I'd rather the videos were a once-in-a-while thing done to keep people invested in and excited by the process and actual project updates were picture & text updates on the KS page - I can read even a lengthy update in a fraction of the time it takes to watch through a whole video(and because of the format you can't just skip to the appropriate part, as the actual information is scattered all over the place).
angelofvengeance wrote: I agree on the Google Hangouts issue. I'd rather hear about where he is with production than watch him sculpt for an hour+ on a web chat. Dolly production progress info please
Hey don't get me wrong, I actually quite enjoy the hangouts, Jeremy is a personable bloke and his enthusiasm is infectious, but they're a piss-poor method of communicating the status of the project with backers. I'd rather the videos were a once-in-a-while thing done to keep people invested in and excited by the process and actual project updates were picture & text updates on the KS page - I can read even a lengthy update in a fraction of the time it takes to watch through a whole video(and because of the format you can't just skip to the appropriate part, as the actual information is scattered all over the place).
Oh absolutely- I'm not saying he's a douche or anything like that. He's a nice enough guy. Though as you say, written updates with photos of said products are better.
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, I'm not ready for those yet. The tree walker I can handle because it can be painted up to hide the feminine parts, or at least not call attention to them, where the spider demon just has everything hanging out there. I think the spider demon would "look" better with the army, but once again they haven't seen the light of day in years.
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shoes!" Coming out of your mouth. If not then withdraw your pledge, it's cheaper than a divorce lawyer or a proctologist to remove the dragon when you use the above line 
I think my kids would look cute without teeth.
23 hours left to go. Jeremy said he'd be live on the net the last hour of the campaign, sounds like fun. Hopefully the mothers in his life don't get too upset with him 
