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Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 13:22:57


Post by: zedmeister


Image from the Open Day:



--Older News--

I've gotten permissions from the mods to start up a new Horus Heresy news and rumour thread so the old generic Forgeworld thread can be closed off. To start us off, here's the Arquitor Bombard:



The Legion Arquitor Pattern Bombard is a heavy artillery platform designed to operate at the forefront of the Legiones Astartes' advance. Equipped with a reinforced chassis and brutal short-range firepower, it is called upon to break the most stubborn of fortifications or to annihilate massed enemy infantry and armour.

Available to both Loyalist and Traitor forces, the Legion Arquitor Pattern Bombard can be fielded in units of up to three vehicles. The spicula rocket system is able to remove any obstacle to the advance of your Space Marines army in a series of devastating explosions. You can also add even more firepower to your indomitable artillery platform in the shape of sponson-mounted heavy bolters or autocannons. If you need to add mobile heavy firepower to your force, the Arquitor Pattern Bombard is ideal.


PDF Rules

Spiculous Rules:



Also, here's a repost of the the Road to Thramas article:



Last time on the Road to Thramas, we took a first look inside The Horus Heresy Book 9 – Crusade and some of the new units contained within. Now, we’re taking a look at a new Elite option for the Dark Angels Legion.

Thramas was one of the most brutal war zones in the entire Horus Heresy. Where the fighting was most intense, Lion El’Jonson would unleash his elite Inner Circle Knights Cenobium. What’s a Cenobium? Good question! It’s a temporary cell of warriors from an Order of the Dark Angels, assembled on the eve of a mission that requires their unique skills.



Clad in the finest Cataphractii pattern Terminator armour, the cenobites* of the Inner Circle could easily weather the storm of shrapnel and flame produced by the terrible weapons of the Great Crusade with limited risk. Armed with the best weapons that the Legion could provide, they would bring the fury of their assault into the heart of enemy formations.



The models to represent this squad are truly stunning. They are covered in the symbols and heraldry of the First Legion and you can see the similarities with the Deathwing Knights 10,000 years later, with their hoods** and Dark Angels iconography.



The squad are all armed with a Terranic greatsword and a plasma-caster. The latter is a weapon that’s unique to the Dark Angels and is a smaller version of regular plasma weaponry, fitted into the vambrace to allow the Inner Circle Knights to fight unencumbered in combat.



Before a game begins, you can select the Order that your Inner Circle Knights are from – each one is dedicated to a singular creed of war. Each different Order provides the unit with a special rule for the duration of the battle that enhances their specific fighting style.

Whichever Order you induct your Knights into, they are going to prove crucial in the conflicts across Thramas, Triplex and beyond.

The Inner Circle Knights Cenobium will be available later in the year, as will The Horus Heresy Book Nine – Crusade.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 13:34:11


Post by: Mr Morden


Awesome Terminators

God awful vehicle


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 13:41:00


Post by: Kanluwen


I like the Spicula. Reminds me of an early WWI tank with its armaments.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 14:01:36


Post by: zedmeister


 Kanluwen wrote:
I like the Spicula. Reminds me of an early WWI tank with its armaments.


Yeah, I love the brutal look of it. Would look very nice in Iron Warriors or Death Guard colours.

This will go nicely in an Ironfire list.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 14:03:11


Post by: Nostromodamus


I’d like one for my Death Guard. Wish they could take phosphex...


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 14:14:21


Post by: zedmeister


 Nostromodamus wrote:
I’d like one for my Death Guard. Wish they could take phosphex...


Well, we do have the Graviton Charge Cannon to come:



Not too much of a stretch to give it Phosphex launchers. Though, I have a feeling that's become a bit of a Taboo subject in FW. They've probably had endless e-mails about the annoyance of Phosphex.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 14:17:25


Post by: Overread


I actually like these little "minitanks". For some reason they remind me of the "tick tanks" from Tiberium Sun (yes I'm aware that they have no relation what so ever to the tick tank - but they are tick-tanks for marines )


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 14:56:50


Post by: changemod


So we're just to have a redundant forge world thread next time a non-30k model comes up?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 15:11:42


Post by: Das_Ubermike


Isn't that tank just a sicaran with its hull facing the wrong direction?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 15:12:59


Post by: zedmeister


Das_Ubermike wrote:
Isn't that tank just a sicaran with its hull facing the wrong direction?


Yeah pretty much an inverted Sicaran. They're going to be quite large models.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 15:15:59


Post by: MajorWesJanson


I like the autocannon sponsons, but not a fan of the rocket battery. Just don't like that style of mortar rockets on this, or the karaktos batteries on admech stuff.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 15:23:51


Post by: Gadzilla666


Just to reiterate from the old thread. It has one entry point and obviously must have a crew bigger than one. That equals death trap.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 15:29:02


Post by: Asmodai


Gadzilla666 wrote:
Just to reiterate from the old thread. It has one entry point and obviously must have a crew bigger than one. That equals death trap.


The hatch is just to give the Tech-Priest access so he can make repairs to the hardwired Servitors anyway, isn't it?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 15:37:53


Post by: warboss


Das_Ubermike wrote:
Isn't that tank just a sicaran with its hull facing the wrong direction?


Do you doubt the will of the servants of the Omnissiah from the holy forge world of Kris Kross!?! Do not underestimate the magos duo of Mac Daddy and Daddy Mac.

Yeah, pretty much. I anxiously await the HH twerking dreadnought variant that goes butt first into combat.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 15:39:21


Post by: ImAGeek


When the Sicaran came out, I remember there being comments about the tracks looking backwards. Funny how it comes full circle!


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 16:01:47


Post by: Erren


That tank is such an odd duck. It’s AV12 in front, but it has 4HP. It’s weapon has a 24” range, but it’s Heavy, so it has trouble crossing the battlefield to get in range. It’s got a nice Autocannon sponson option, but its main gun is ordnance, so those are snapfiring (maybe useful if you rocket barrage yourself out of ammo?). Its gun is Str 7, but it has Sunder and Wrecker. As far as I can tell, it will never use Wrecker, because it can’t glance buildings (they’re all AV14). The slow speed and short range will also make it hard to get side armor shots, which it needs because it only has Str 7. It’s also direct fire only.

Maybe as a Castellax/Daemon hunter? It’s at least pretty cheap. Maybe with some screening it could really mess up Daemons and Cybernetica, and FW put Sunder on there in case you happen to be facing a more common army? Wrecker is just bad on this.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 16:03:05


Post by: Not Online!!!


not really a fan of it.
It's not awfull but also not really that must have thing


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 16:42:31


Post by: Alpharius


Maybe there is an escape hatch on the bottom?

Not sure if there's enough tread clearance down there though for someone in Power Armor...


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 17:34:52


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Gadzilla666 wrote:
Just to reiterate from the old thread. It has one entry point and obviously must have a crew bigger than one. That equals death trap.


Why obviously a crew greater than one? Looks designed for a single marine crew, maybe hardwired servitors for the guns if not autotargeters. If a single human can crew a knight, a single marine can run this far more simple vehicle.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 18:19:25


Post by: Yodhrin


I don't like it. I really don't like it at 95 quid.

The rework of the old Sabre concept into the minitank series was pretty cool, but these artillery vehicles just feel kinda...lazy? If they were going to reuse the CAD assets from previous vehicles, I'd prefer they'd kept the tracks the right way around and done a heavier redesign of the main chassis to accommodate the new weapon systems, rather than just flipping them around and hanging the gun off the back.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 18:28:05


Post by: Racerguy180


 Yodhrin wrote:
I don't like it. I really don't like it at 95 quid.

The rework of the old Sabre concept into the minitank series was pretty cool, but these artillery vehicles just feel kinda...lazy? If they were going to reuse the CAD assets from previous vehicles, I'd prefer they'd kept the tracks the right way around and done a heavier redesign of the main chassis to accommodate the new weapon systems, rather than just flipping them around and hanging the gun off the back.


agree it's waaayyyyyy too expensive.

Not to defend the new minitanks, but this is totally reasonable thing for the Mechanicum to do. The chassis is proven, so just flip it around and bam, you have a new platform & a happy new Magos or Fabricator.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 18:37:27


Post by: RiTides


It's funny, I love it . This is a very polarizing tank, it seems! Is there a size comparison photo for this, or for a tank with the same chassis?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 19:02:29


Post by: Jackal90


I want to know what they were smoking when they priced that.
I’m used to high prices but this one is just a bad joke.

You can literally buy the sabre with every weapon option for less.

Love the model and it’s rules seem great, but it’s a hard pass at that cost.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 19:06:32


Post by: zedmeister


 RiTides wrote:
It's funny, I love it . This is a very polarizing tank, it seems! Is there a size comparison photo for this, or for a tank with the same chassis?


It’s the same size as the Sicaran. Much bigger than the sabre


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 19:23:07


Post by: Elbows


Nice Terminators, ugly vehicle...and very ugly Terminator art? The picture before the miniatures looks like poop.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 20:11:42


Post by: Nah Man Pichu


At least we're getting 30k releases, odd-duck releases notwithstanding.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 22:52:34


Post by: Crablezworth


Erren wrote:
That tank is such an odd duck. It’s AV12 in front, but it has 4HP. It’s weapon has a 24” range, but it’s Heavy, so it has trouble crossing the battlefield to get in range. It’s got a nice Autocannon sponson option, but its main gun is ordnance, so those are snapfiring (maybe useful if you rocket barrage yourself out of ammo?). Its gun is Str 7, but it has Sunder and Wrecker. As far as I can tell, it will never use Wrecker, because it can’t glance buildings (they’re all AV14). The slow speed and short range will also make it hard to get side armor shots, which it needs because it only has Str 7. It’s also direct fire only.


Actually RAW the rocket's special rules only requirement is that the target unit or point on the board be in range, makes no mention of requiring line of site and it gives you the full methodology for who to resolve the attack in the paragraph itself. This leads to a lot of problems because all the language around shooting only refferences targeting units and not point on the battlefield, so you get problems with jink saves, problems with the sponson weapons not being able to shoot if the main gun targets a point and not a unit. It needs clarification for sure.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 22:53:24


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Erren wrote:
It’s also direct fire only.
So I wasn't misreading it then.

This seems like a mistake.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/10 22:56:00


Post by: Crablezworth


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Erren wrote:
It’s also direct fire only.
So I wasn't misreading it then.

This seems like a mistake.


Look at the rocket's special rule, place template within range, scatter, if the template touches a unit it does the corresponding number of hits.



I believe forgworld is going to clarify and explicitly state it doesn't need los. They need to clarify a lot of things if they're changing targeting unit to points on the board, like, how does that interact with terrain, is the third level of a ruin a point on the board? Also, because you can't target points on the board with the sponsons, it means you'll never even be able to snap fire along with the main weapon.


My simple reasoning is they call it an artillery tank and the weapon axis is clearly rather high, even with 22.5 in each direction you won't have much in your los if that's how it is intended to be played




Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 07:11:19


Post by: timd


Would be nice if the thread title was not all abbreviations... Perhaps: "Forge World: Horus Heresy/30K"?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 10:08:19


Post by: Gadzilla666


timd wrote:
Would be nice if the thread title was not all abbreviations... Perhaps: "Forge World: Horus Heresy/30K"?

Or maybe something like "forge world news and rumors 2020" more obviously covering all the non specialist games releases?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 10:10:45


Post by: Jackal90


Gadzilla666 wrote:
timd wrote:
Would be nice if the thread title was not all abbreviations... Perhaps: "Forge World: Horus Heresy/30K"?

Or maybe something like "forge world news and rumors 2020" more obviously covering all the non specialist games releases?




I agree with this.
Having a thread per game type is nice and all, but FW releases are slow.
This would mean most of the threads just rot for long periods of time.
Even a blanket coverage of all FW releases can be slow at times.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 10:13:07


Post by: zedmeister


Gadzilla666 wrote:
timd wrote:
Would be nice if the thread title was not all abbreviations... Perhaps: "Forge World: Horus Heresy/30K"?

Or maybe something like "forge world news and rumors 2020" more obviously covering all the non specialist games releases?


There hasn’t been any AoS or 40k Forgeworld releases for at least 1 and a half years and Horus Heresy are getting regular releases. Considering 30k is its own game now it makes sense to have its own thread like Blood Bowl, Miiddle Earth and Titanicus


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 11:41:14


Post by: Gadzilla666


 zedmeister wrote:
Gadzilla666 wrote:
timd wrote:
Would be nice if the thread title was not all abbreviations... Perhaps: "Forge World: Horus Heresy/30K"?

Or maybe something like "forge world news and rumors 2020" more obviously covering all the non specialist games releases?


There hasn’t been any AoS or 40k Forgeworld releases for at least 1 and a half years and Horus Heresy are getting regular releases. Considering 30k is its own game now it makes sense to have its own thread like Blood Bowl, Miiddle Earth and Titanicus

A LOT of 30k models can be used in 40k. Pretty much all the infantry can easily be used without any rules modification. And if fw does happen to release any 40k or AOS models then changing the thread to being 30k specific means discussion of those models will be relegated to their own limited threads. We already have a full 30k only forum if you only want to talk 30k.


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Jackal90 wrote:
Gadzilla666 wrote:
timd wrote:
Would be nice if the thread title was not all abbreviations... Perhaps: "Forge World: Horus Heresy/30K"?

Or maybe something like "forge world news and rumors 2020" more obviously covering all the non specialist games releases?




I agree with this.
Having a thread per game type is nice and all, but FW releases are slow.
This would mean most of the threads just rot for long periods of time.
Even a blanket coverage of all FW releases can be slow at times.

Exactly.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 12:25:08


Post by: ImAGeek


I don’t really get why it matters is news and rumour threads are quiet if there’s no news and rumours for a while? Or why HH/30k is less deserving of its own thread than Necromunda, Blood Bowl, AT when if anything it’s been getting releases more often than those.


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Size comparison of the Arquitor to the Rapier (from Warhammerworld via Facebook):



Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 14:30:41


Post by: zedmeister


Quite the chunky model. Probably not worth £10 more than he sicaran though.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 14:53:42


Post by: Overread


FW really should do more photos like that on their product pages to give a better idea how big things are. Some of their "size comparison" photos just don't do justice to the size of a model.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 17:17:33


Post by: BaronIveagh


 zedmeister wrote:

There hasn’t been any AoS or 40k Forgeworld releases for at least 1 and a half years and Horus Heresy are getting regular releases.


Achem:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Warlord-Titan-Macro-Gatling-Blaster-2019

Since it's listed in their 40k section, I'm betting that it will be getting rules there soon. Since, you know, 9th Edition is coming this year or next, so I'm bettign we'll see some regular 40k FW action as well.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 17:32:54


Post by: beast_gts


 zedmeister wrote:
There hasn’t been any AoS or 40k Forgeworld releases for at least 1 and a half years and Horus Heresy are getting regular releases.


The Armiger Moirax was released with 40k rules, and there's been several re-releases (Gorgon, etc) but nothing unique to 40k or for AoS.

What was the last unique 40k release - the Astraeus or the Red Scorpion characters?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 17:47:51


Post by: zedmeister


Both of those kits were for 30k and the main studio happened to release 40k rules, the warlord having them in the index for quite some time, The last full true 40k release was for the Seraptek in Oct 2018. Nothing wrong with posting those rules in the 40k thread if and when they are released.

Don’t see why 30k having its own thread is causing such a ruckus. It’s its own game system and rule set.

Edit - to save argument, suggest you PM a mod to see if you can start up a separate 40k Forgeworld news and rumours thread for when a 40k release happens.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 20:19:15


Post by: BaronIveagh


 zedmeister wrote:

Edit - to save argument, suggest you PM a mod to see if you can start up a separate 40k Forgeworld news and rumours thread for when a 40k release happens.


I already have and suggested either that or this thread be merged. I mean, seriously, with 9th and the SoB release you think there aren't going to be FW releases for 40k in the extremely immediate future?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 21:24:03


Post by: zedmeister


 BaronIveagh wrote:


I already have and suggested either that or this thread be merged. I mean, seriously, with 9th and the SoB release you think there aren't going to be FW releases for 40k in the extremely immediate future?


No, I really don’t think that we’ll see anything more for 40k or AoS from Forgeworld directly. Forgeworld have been pretty much slowly reducing the pure 40k and AoS ranges through last chance to buys and the occasional disappearances. What you’ll probably get is the occasional get you by rules for a 30k unit when enough people make noise at the 40k team.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/11 23:05:18


Post by: ingtaer



Thanks for everyones input on the thread name and content, but can I ask that any further discussion on the matter take place in Nuts and Bolts and not in this thread?
As it stands I see no issue with how things are currently presented, if a 40k only release happens it can go in here with out causing the end of the universe, if lots of 40k releases happen it can have its own thread and if lots of dual releases happens then it will take some thinking about.
Thanks,
ingtær


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/14 13:40:41


Post by: gilljoy


Has there been any word from Forgeworld about other legion specific leviathans?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/16 11:39:47


Post by: zedmeister


Bad news - looks like some Legion shoulder pads are now marked with the dreaded No Longer Available. These aren't in the bags and are the new style blisters:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Emperor-s-Children-Legion-MKIII-Shoulder-Pads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Iron-Warriors-Legion-MKIV-Shoulder-Pads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Dark-Angels-Mk-IV-Shoulder-Pads

I'd suspect that pretty much most, if not all, Legion pads will be going away. Same reason the doors and previous pads went I reckon - they don't sell enough, etc.


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In happier news, this image turned up (Thanks to kenbian from Heresy30k) from the Open Day:



Looks like some sort of heavy plasma burner for the Dark Angels Legion.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/16 20:08:37


Post by: Gadzilla666


Damn. Guess I better load up on Night Lords shoulder pads before they hit the chopping block. I can't understand how they can't sell enough. Am I the only one who likes my legion to have the right iconography?


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/16 20:11:20


Post by: pm713


Gadzilla666 wrote:
Damn. Guess I better load up on Night Lords shoulder pads before they hit the chopping block. I can't understand how they can't sell enough. Am I the only one who likes my legion to have the right iconography?

For me at least, it's a price thing. Would I prefer my armies having their special shoulder pads? Yes. Am I willing to spend extra money on that? No.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/16 20:14:00


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Again, wish UM and IH were getting the love that Dark Angels are. Don't like them in the fluff, but it's getting hard not to start a force of them thanks to models like these.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/17 08:40:48


Post by: zedmeister


More release for Heresy - Blood Angels Angel Tears and Book 2 in softback:







Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/17 10:00:29


Post by: Jack Flask


 zedmeister wrote:
Bad news - looks like some Legion shoulder pads are now marked with the dreaded No Longer Available. These aren't in the bags and are the new style blisters:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Emperor-s-Children-Legion-MKIII-Shoulder-Pads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Iron-Warriors-Legion-MKIV-Shoulder-Pads
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Dark-Angels-Mk-IV-Shoulder-Pads

I'd suspect that pretty much most, if not all, Legion pads will be going away. Same reason the doors and previous pads went I reckon - they don't sell enough, etc.


Not sure where you're getting that conclusion from? Emperor's Children still have Mk4 pads available, while both IW and DA have Mk3s.
Considering DA EC, and IW are usually stereotyped as wearing armor from those remaining marks, I doubt the discontinued pads were selling in a significantly higher quantity to entice GW to keep making them.

It seems like for a while now that they've been reducing redundant SKUs for things like upgrades and detail parts. However, every legion as far as I can tell still has an available set of helmets, tank doors, and shoulder pads in at least one armor mark.


Heresy/30k - News & Rumours - Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon + Book 8 softback - Pg5 @ 2020/01/17 10:06:07


Post by: zedmeister


Jack Flask wrote:
Not sure where you're getting that conclusion from? Emperor's Children still have Mk4 pads available, while both IW and DA have Mk3s.
Considering DA EC, and IW are usually stereotyped as wearing armor from those remaining marks, I doubt the discontinued pads were selling in a significantly higher quantity to entice GW to keep making them.

It seems like for a while now that they've been reducing redundant SKUs for things like upgrades and detail parts. However, every legion as far as I can tell still has an available set of helmets, tank doors, and shoulder pads in at least one armor mark.


It's my supposition based on what Forgeworld has done previously. For example, around the time the entire Mk II range was binned along with pads, the cataphractii pads were also scrapped. And last year, a load of door upgrade sets were removed. They were probably intended as an extra to purchase when buying the bigger kits to push people over the free shipping threshold. But, the Transfers are a nice alternative and for a few quid more you can get a sheet of those and that'll pretty much do your entire legion.

As mentioned, this is my guess on what's going on. I suspect they don't sell all as well as hoped and we will see the other pads slowly disappearing over time. Its why I posted it - give people notice that this is a potential future and get any remaining pads before they do vanish.


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Post by: Erren


Also, people on B&C have emailed customer support, who confirmed they’re getting rid of all of them as stock winds down.


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Post by: Gadzilla666


Erren wrote:
Also, people on B&C have emailed customer support, who confirmed they’re getting rid of all of them as stock winds down.

All the legions zedmiester mentioned or all legions period?


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Post by: Erren


The only confirmed ones are the ones currently No Longer Available. But come on, we all know they’re not getting rid of just some legions’ shoulder pads. If you want some, get them while the getting is good.


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Post by: warboss


As a hibernating Blood Angel player (admittedly 40k and not HH), I think those look like crap. They look more appropriate for pre heresy Emperor's Children to me. Ymmv.


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Post by: Nicky J


I personally love those new blood angels troops, mainly cos they look like this old bit of Rogue Trader artwork that I always loved:
(the helmets specifically, but they have jump packs and twin pistols too)



but I can see why people say they don't quite look right for blood angels - I actually kinda wish they were generic troops rather than legion specific myself tbh


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Post by: Overread


Erren wrote:
Also, people on B&C have emailed customer support, who confirmed they’re getting rid of all of them as stock winds down.


That's rare, normally all you get it as "watch the site just in case" which is basically what I've had asking FW twice (on separate occasions) as they started to strip AoS models from the range without warning (or much warning - esp considering that once on last chance most vanish within a few days - its not like you've a month or two).


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Post by: beast_gts


 warboss wrote:
As a hibernating Blood Angel player (admittedly 40k and not HH), I think those look like crap. They look more appropriate for pre heresy Emperor's Children to me. Ymmv.


Our local Blood Angel player thinks they look more Death Guard (mainly due to the shoulder pad)


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Post by: Jackal90


The heads look very EC like with the screaming look to them.
While the plain armour is better than pure clutter, some form of detail is usually nice.
Really don’t look all that BA to me.

Considering the rest of the BA stuff, this ones a no from me.
Doesn’t help we’ve seen some amazing DA stuff either as it casts a big shadow.


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Post by: Gadzilla666


As far as jump infantry goes they certainly aren't Night Raptors. But then the best jump infantry models should obviously belong to the best jump infantry legion.


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Post by: warboss


beast_gts wrote:
 warboss wrote:
As a hibernating Blood Angel player (admittedly 40k and not HH), I think those look like crap. They look more appropriate for pre heresy Emperor's Children to me. Ymmv.


Our local Blood Angel player thinks they look more Death Guard (mainly due to the shoulder pad)


I'm not very familiar with HH DG myself so can't comment. The reason I said EC was because they have oversized shoulderpad wings in previous HH legion releases plus the helmets remind me of screaming speaker noise marines (or raptors to a lesser extent). YMMV.


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Post by: Either/Or


The earlier BA releases looked pretty good, but this round looks embarrassingly bad. The painting style doesn’t help either. Completely different from earlier HH BA.

The contrast with the HH DAs is huge.


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Post by: zedmeister


More pads have gone:

Iron Hands Mk IV
Thousand Sons Achean Pads
Salamanders Mk IV
Thousand Sons Mk III
Imperial Fists Mk VI

If you haven't already, get your pads as Forgeworld have confirmed that they won't be restocking the pads when they've gone...


Edit:
Some doors have gone as well


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Post by: CragHack


Honestly, these are the ones that normally don't go well with their legions.
From my experience, I've very rarely seen MKIII Sons, MKIV Hands/Sallies/Fists - these legions just look so much better in MKIII/MKIV.


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Post by: Gadzilla666


Night Lords mark 3 shoulder pads are gone from the fw sight. That makes sense seeing as how they're one of the two legions featured in the upcoming Thramas Crusade.


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Post by: Elbows


Phew...that is a terrible special character.


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Post by: Jackal90


Pic is broken for me lol.

FW seem to be unloading a ton of older items lately.
Hopefully they come out with replacements/new items to cover them.


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Post by: beast_gts


Jackal90 wrote:
Pic is broken for me lol.


Warhammer Community is currently down for maintenance.


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Post by: Not Online!!!


 Elbows wrote:
Phew...that is a terrible special character.


That face is..... wierd.


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Post by: Nah Man Pichu


Not Online!!! wrote:
 Elbows wrote:
Phew...that is a terrible special character.


That face is..... wierd.


I think it's the paintjob. For a lot of the bare-headed models I've felt the same, until I see the unpainted version on the website at which point I realize it was just painted badly.

I honestly think it's a great model. The helmet is neato. It has some very interesting and cool details without feeling too cluttered.


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Post by: pm713


I like the armour a lot but it makes me sad that 40k era Scars lost their fancy gear.


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Post by: Jackal90


Pic is back now.
I’m actually liking the model a lot.

Again, they have enough detail to make it interesting but haven’t flooded it with random clutter for the sake of details.


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Post by: grahamdbailey


It's weird, Forgeworld used to be one of the most exciting and news-worthy releases from GW, but it's all a bit samey now, with yet more marines, and with much more exciting stuff coming from the main studio.


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Post by: Nah Man Pichu


grahamdbailey wrote:
It's weird, Forgeworld used to be one of the most exciting and news-worthy releases from GW, but it's all a bit samey now, with yet more marines, and with much more exciting stuff coming from the main studio.


~~Complains about the studio almost entirely dedicated to HH releasing only marines~~

Okie dokie buddy


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Post by: TiamatRoar


 Nah Man Pichu wrote:
grahamdbailey wrote:
It's weird, Forgeworld used to be one of the most exciting and news-worthy releases from GW, but it's all a bit samey now, with yet more marines, and with much more exciting stuff coming from the main studio.


~~Complains about the studio almost entirely dedicated to HH releasing only marines~~

Okie dokie buddy


There used to be the Imperial Armour books and quite a bit of Xenos items coming from Forge World . Also, there's generally no new Solar Auxilia now either (besides that one tank they had a while back).

Now there's no more Imperial Armor (with the upcoming one being in development for a long long time) and the guy who did Solar Auxilia is gone. I think there aren't as many Custodes and Chaos vehicles and beasts or Dreadnaught stuff as previously too but maybe that's just confirmation bias or something. Feels like most of it's been Marine infantry lately.


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Post by: insaniak


The thing is, Forgeworld's thing used to be making stuff that the main studio couldn't. With the main studio now able to turn out plastic titans, Forgeworld needed a new direction.


And, quite frankly, I suspect that Heresy marines sell considerably better than most of their previous releases.


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Post by: MajorWesJanson


There is also a backlog on parts for titans, and no new mechanicus/mechanicum stuff in a while.


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Post by: Nicky J


 insaniak wrote:

And, quite frankly, I suspect that Heresy marines sell considerably better than most of their previous releases.


Just not the shoulder pads though, evidently!


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Post by: Yodhrin


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
There is also a backlog on parts for titans, and no new mechanicus/mechanicum stuff in a while.


The lack of new Mechanicum models is a particular annoyance, because I can't shake the sense that the reason we've not had any more is the main Studio told them to stop so their whackadoodledoo 40K range would have a free run.


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Post by: ImAGeek


There’ll at least be some Dark Mechanicum stuff with book 10.


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Post by: MajorWesJanson


Maybe they will bring back the awesome macrocarid explorator. Don't know why that went away when the ugly karaktos thing is still around.


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Post by: CragHack


FW fails so bad. 11:33 and they still can't sort their website nonsense. Maybe that's why they are getting rid of sculpted shoulder pads. Transfers for everyone!


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Post by: zedmeister


Maybe new Transfers this week? Seems like they've put an advert on their frontpage but no product.

Dark Angels and White Scars with the Emperors Children sheet returning:



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Post by: Fireball


yeah, that is clear ... but clicking on the button is still not successful ... so we do not know if there are other new transfers on top of the three you mentioned


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Post by: beast_gts


Just those three - they're now live


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Post by: zedmeister


Good that they've brought these out considering the shoulder pads are for the chop. Looks like the word bearers have been chopped and some more doors.


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Post by: Gadzilla666


Aarrgghh! I don't want transfers. I want my legion's shoulder pads damnit!


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Post by: Marshal Loss


New "Road to Thramas" blog post coming tomorrow, apparently about the Night Lords. Fingers crossed for Atramentar!


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Post by: JWBS


Gadzilla666 wrote:
Aarrgghh! I don't want transfers. I want my legion's shoulder pads damnit!

You had that option for literally years, did you not want it then?


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Post by: Gadzilla666


JWBS wrote:
Gadzilla666 wrote:
Aarrgghh! I don't want transfers. I want my legion's shoulder pads damnit!

You had that option for literally years, did you not want it then?

Well I didn't stock up on a lifetime supply. I still like to add models to my army. Did you buy enough to last you? Or do you just never intend to expand your army?


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Post by: Agamemnon2


 insaniak wrote:
The thing is, Forgeworld's thing used to be making stuff that the main studio couldn't. With the main studio now able to turn out plastic titans, Forgeworld needed a new direction.

And, quite frankly, I suspect that Heresy marines sell considerably better than most of their previous releases.

Why I think some of us ancients are bitter is that the Imperial Guard in particular used to be one of the best-served Forgeworld ranges, with two complete model ranges with drastically different playstyles and variant army lists (three if you want to could the Vraksian renegades), plus countless tank variants from Cyclops to Stormblades. Most of those models are gone now, and it's been several years since the last new one was released (and the impression I have is that no more will ever be released, either).

Forgeworld did make things the main studio couldn't do. But now they've stopped, and for the most part those things are no longer done by the main studio either. If it was important to GW, we would have gotten plastic Death Korps by now. And I haven't seen plastic titans around either.


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Post by: Smaug


Some of the Death Korps figures have been released by FW, maybe there is hope for the rest.
I think insaniak meant the AT titans. Although those are done by Specialists Games not GW main studio.


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Post by: zedmeister


Road to Thramas pt3:



So far in the Road to Thramas, the Dark Angels have had things their way. That ends today, as it’s time to take a look at the Contekar Terminator Elite from the Night Lords Legion.

Contekar Terminator Elite

When the VIIIth Legion needed butchers and murderers of the highest calibre, they unleashed the Contekar Terminator squads. With recruits taken from Nostramo’s ruling elite, they would only fight for leaders they deemed worthy of their attention. In fact, the Contekar would often be dispatched to wrest control from Night Lords whose commanders thought them unfit for the Legion.



Armed with heavy flamers or volkite cavitors and Nostraman chainglaives, they are going to bring abject despair and destruction to the Thramas system. The Nostraman chainglaive, in particular, is going to slice through a lot of Loyalist Space Marines.



You can take full advantage of the Contekar Terminators by fielding them as additional Elites choices as part of a new Night Lords unique Rite of War – The Cross of Bone.



With new Rites of War, new units and new characters, The Horus Heresy Book 9 – Crusade will allow Night Lords players to persecute their war of terror across the galaxy on an unprecedented scale.

Legion Arquitor Bombard with Morbus Heavy Bombard

This Horus Heresy campaign book also adds extra units for both sides in the bitter civil war. We’ve already seen the graviton-charge cannon version of the Arquitor and the spicula rocket system has been deployed. Now, it’s time to show you the standard* version of the Arquitor, armed with the devastating Morbus heavy bombard.



Be sure to pick up an Arquitor for your Legion before the Death Lord gets his daemonic hands on it…

The Horus Heresy Book 9 – Crusade will be released later this year, as are the Contekar Terminators and Arquitor with heavy bombard.


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Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


Terminators looks pretty neat. Rite of war is interesting, but I'm not entirely sure.


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Post by: Marshal Loss


The description for that unit reads like plagiarized Atramentar.


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Post by: Nah Man Pichu


I like the gothic-looking window motifs around their collars. It looks like a darker reflection of what we've seen on the Dark Angels releases!


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Post by: Thanatos73


 Marshal Loss wrote:
The description for that unit reads like plagiarized Atramentar.


FW replied to a comment on their FB page stating that this unit is evidently part of the Atramentar.


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Post by: zedmeister


 Thanatos73 wrote:
 Marshal Loss wrote:
The description for that unit reads like plagiarized Atramentar.


FW replied to a comment on their FB page stating that this unit is evidently part of the Atramentar.


They’ll probably have one of those red boxes that explain that the most renowned Contekar unit was the one under Sevatar called the Atramentar


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Post by: ImAGeek


 zedmeister wrote:
 Thanatos73 wrote:
 Marshal Loss wrote:
The description for that unit reads like plagiarized Atramentar.


FW replied to a comment on their FB page stating that this unit is evidently part of the Atramentar.


They’ll probably have one of those red boxes that explain that the most renowned Contekar unit was the one under Sevatar called the Atramentar


It’s the other way round.

‘Hey Joseph - Atramentar describes the entire first company of Night Lords and this is a specific unit within that. So basically, these guys are both!’


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Post by: Alpharius


 Nah Man Pichu wrote:
I like the gothic-looking window motifs around their collars. It looks like a darker reflection of what we've seen on the Dark Angels releases!


Aren't those just a bunch of arrows?


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Post by: Nah Man Pichu


 Alpharius wrote:
 Nah Man Pichu wrote:
I like the gothic-looking window motifs around their collars. It looks like a darker reflection of what we've seen on the Dark Angels releases!


Aren't those just a bunch of arrows?


Hmmmmm.... Maybe


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Post by: Alpharius


...I do like your idea better though!


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Post by: Agamemnon2


I like the idea that the Aquilor Bombards eventually end up inspiring the Death Guard. Like the link between the Vultarax and the Blight Drones, that kind of thing always makes me happy.


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Post by: CragHack


Is that actually a chain-volkite-fist?


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Post by: Slayer-Fan123


Those Terminators made me rock hard.


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Post by: Marshal Loss


 Thanatos73 wrote:
 Marshal Loss wrote:
The description for that unit reads like plagiarized Atramentar.


FW replied to a comment on their FB page stating that this unit is evidently part of the Atramentar.


They're missing the iconography that denotes them as being members of the Atramentar. I wouldn't be surprised if FW's FB team is just reacting to criticism by lumping them together in this fashion. Glaring omission aside, they are lovely models


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Post by: Gadzilla666


I. Need. Those.

Love the chain weapon on the volkite. Also notice their in Tartoros pattern armour just like the Praetor? But why do they describe them as being armed with Nostroman chainglaives when neither model is?


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Post by: Marshal Loss


Gadzilla666 wrote:
I. Need. Those.

Love the chain weapon on the volkite. Also notice their in Tartoros pattern armour just like the Praetor? But why do they describe them as being armed with Nostroman chainglaives when neither model is?


Rules have been edited to be "Nostraman chainblades" now. No +1S


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Post by: queen_annes_revenge


I like those termies. I dont think the weapons look very night lordy though.. maybe have to convert them. another minor thing that bothers me is the VIII on their belts.. I feel like the top and bottom horizontals would look better solid rather than seperated. will have to see how they look in the flesh.


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Post by: posermcbogus


 zedmeister wrote:
Maybe new Transfers this week? Seems like they've put an advert on their frontpage but no product.

Dark Angels and White Scars with the Emperors Children sheet returning:



Wait, is the EC sheet just a re-print?

Also, ooh la la... Those Night Lords simply too lovely. Really tempted by these, as the other minis in the range are so nice, too...


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Post by: zedmeister


I believe the Emperor's Children sheet is actually new and not a reprint.


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Post by: Nah Man Pichu


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I like those termies. I dont think the weapons look very night lordy though.. maybe have to convert them. another minor thing that bothers me is the VIII on their belts.. I feel like the top and bottom horizontals would look better solid rather than seperated. will have to see how they look in the flesh.


Glad it's not just me. Something about it just looks....off. Not bad tbc, just off. It looks like something that wouldn't look out of place on an Ultramarines model, which is about as far from NL as you can get.

The closest analogy I can think of is writing a whole document in Ariel and then signing off in Times New Roman. It just doesn't fit the rest.

Otherwise fantastic models, glad they got the love they deserved.



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Post by: beast_gts


Adeptus Titanicus Warlord-Sinister is up for pre-order on Friday, so hopefully the full size 30k one isn't far off...

Spoiler:


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Post by: MajorWesJanson


beast_gts wrote:
Adeptus Titanicus Warlord-Sinister is up for pre-order on Friday, so hopefully the full size 30k one isn't far off...

Spoiler:


We are still waiting for some of the arm and carapace mounts in 28mm that have already been released.


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Post by: Tavis75


Just looking on the FW site (UK) for Malevolence and it seems to have disappeared. Anyone know if it's just temporarily out of stock or if it's gone now until they get round to a paperback release? I know it's been out a while but the hardback HH books normally hang around for a bit longer than that.


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Post by: Yodhrin


Tavis75 wrote:
Just looking on the FW site (UK) for Malevolence and it seems to have disappeared. Anyone know if it's just temporarily out of stock or if it's gone now until they get round to a paperback release? I know it's been out a while but the hardback HH books normally hang around for a bit longer than that.


FW refuse to give us any info about the books. They won't even say definitively that they are planning to do paperback versions of all the existing releases. It's infuriating.


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Post by: beast_gts


The Dark Angels Legion Inner Circle Knights Cenobium are up for pre-order


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Spoiler:







And rules.


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Post by: Dysartes



Are the "Terranic greatswords" new weapons?


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Post by: beast_gts


 Dysartes wrote:
Are the "Terranic greatswords" new weapons?

No, they're in Retribution (Black Book 6) as a Dark Angels exclusive weapon - S+2, AP3, Melee, Two-handed, Instant Death


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Post by: Dysartes


beast_gts wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Are the "Terranic greatswords" new weapons?

No, they're in Retribution (Black Book 6) as a Dark Angels exclusive weapon - S+2, AP3, Melee, Two-handed, Instant Death

That sounds... unpleasant.


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Post by: H.B.M.C.


"Similar in design to the rare Digital Wepaons..."

... but only, like, 1000% bigger, so, really, not like digiweapons at all!

Cool minis.


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Post by: Fireball


Those DA look very tempting ... BA Raldoron is already waiting in my cart for quite some time ... same as the DA praetors ... it might finally be time to hit the buy button


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Post by: pm713


It's starting to look like very good timing for me to finish my current 30k project.


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Post by: Mothman


Looks at those rules, looks back to my pheonix guard terminators. Feelsbad

so for 10 points more than my pheonix guard,Terminators they get
-ranged attacks at 2 shots each ap 2 ignoring cover
-adamantium will
-stubborn
-higher ws on their champ and all of them get ws buff for using swords, with options for hammers
- a choice 7 specialist buffs they choose at start of game to tailor to enemy
-2 wounds on their champ
-EVEN THEIR GRENADE HARNESS IS 5 POINTS CHEAPER

in return pheonix terminators get
-ap2 on charge
-can auto win draws
- can spend 15 points for shriekers for a-1 ws buff on enemies which doesn't work against certain legions


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Post by: Orodhen


So they can re-roll failed hits during Overwatch, but Cataphractii armour can't Overwatch...


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Post by: ImAGeek


 Orodhen wrote:
So they can re-roll failed hits during Overwatch, but Cataphractii armour can't Overwatch...


There’s a chance the orders will be available to other models, due to some of the wording in the rules. ‘ ...in which it, or a unit it is part of’ and ‘...for a unit that includes this model’ are quite redundant if this unit is the only one with access to them. They imply to me that there might be characters who use them too or something.


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Post by: Nah Man Pichu


 ImAGeek wrote:
 Orodhen wrote:
So they can re-roll failed hits during Overwatch, but Cataphractii armour can't Overwatch...


There’s a chance the orders will be available to other models, due to some of the wording in the rules. ‘ ...in which it, or a unit it is part of’ and ‘...for a unit that includes this model’ are quite redundant if this unit is the only one with access to them. They imply to me that there might be characters who use them too or something.


The rules also state "Before the start of play each unit of Inner Circle Knights must be assigned an Order". Note that it doesn't say "Inner Circle Knights Cenobium". Could be nothing, but to me this implies there will be one or two more units that will be "Inner Circle Knights *something*" that will also have access to these Orders.

Would play into a lot of the speculation that Dark Angels will make up for their lackluster baseline rules by having lots of customization options through RoW, and now these Orders.

Makes sense for the First legion to be highly adaptable.


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Post by: beast_gts


 Orodhen wrote:
So they can re-roll failed hits during Overwatch, but Cataphractii armour can't Overwatch...


They also can't use the "Plasma Flame" special rule on the Plasma-casters...


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Post by: Orodhen


beast_gts wrote:
 Orodhen wrote:
So they can re-roll failed hits during Overwatch, but Cataphractii armour can't Overwatch...


They also can't use the "Plasma Flame" special rule on the Plasma-casters...


That's actually what I was referring to. Safe to assume some other units will get access to the Plasma-Caster?

I don't think any of the Orders give them that ability.


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Post by: beast_gts


 Orodhen wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
 Orodhen wrote:
So they can re-roll failed hits during Overwatch, but Cataphractii armour can't Overwatch...


They also can't use the "Plasma Flame" special rule on the Plasma-casters...


That's actually what I was referring to. Safe to assume some other units will get access to the Plasma-Caster?

I don't think any of the Orders give them that ability.


Doh! Sorry - I got my wires crossed with other people mentioning the Order Exemplars.


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Post by: Marshal Loss


 Mothman wrote:
Looks at those rules, looks back to my pheonix guard terminators. Feelsbad


To be fair, Phoenix Terminators look bad when compared to pretty much every unit in the game


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Post by: pm713


 Orodhen wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
 Orodhen wrote:
So they can re-roll failed hits during Overwatch, but Cataphractii armour can't Overwatch...


They also can't use the "Plasma Flame" special rule on the Plasma-casters...


That's actually what I was referring to. Safe to assume some other units will get access to the Plasma-Caster?

I don't think any of the Orders give them that ability.

I assumed there was an error and they were going to be able to overwatch like grave wardens.


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Post by: ImAGeek


 Orodhen wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
 Orodhen wrote:
So they can re-roll failed hits during Overwatch, but Cataphractii armour can't Overwatch...


They also can't use the "Plasma Flame" special rule on the Plasma-casters...


That's actually what I was referring to. Safe to assume some other units will get access to the Plasma-Caster?

I don't think any of the Orders give them that ability.


My bad. I thought it was an order thing, not the weapon rule.


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Post by: Snrub


My first impression of these Cenobium was that I really liked them. But now, the more I look at them, the less I find myself liking them.

I find them to be a bit too busy for my tastes. My eye doesn't seem to land anywhere in particular. And at first I thought it was just because of the colours used on them, but even the unpainted pictures still keep the eye wandering. Can't even put it down to the usual sloppy FW paintjob, as these are quite well painted.


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Post by: MajorWesJanson


 Snrub wrote:
My first impression of these Cenobium was that I really liked them. But now, the more I look at them, the less I find myself liking them.

I find them to be a bit too busy for my tastes. My eye doesn't seem to land anywhere in particular. And at first I thought it was just because of the colours used on them, but even the unpainted pictures still keep the eye wandering. Can't even put it down to the usual sloppy FW paintjob, as these are quite well painted.


I think that if they didn't have the banding on the thigh, and maybe a different, less Templar-styled helm, they would be excellent. Making the legs more plain would give a visual break, allowing the shins and chest to draw more attention instead of blending together. And everything else on them is wings and arches, but the helm is suddenly a straight templar cross under a hood. Single characters can get away with being this busy, the terminator praetor looks good. But when it is a full squad, it just jumbles together.

Still, good looking models, even if the execution is just a tad off. Would love to see the same sculptor do a pass on Ultramarines, Iron Hands, and Black Templars.


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Post by: beast_gts


Spoiler:
The Horus Heresy: Slay Your Daemons

Since the Daemons of the Ruinstorm were unleashed in The Horus Heresy Book Eight – Malevolence, Space Marine Legions have been searching for a way to deal with this new threat. Fortunately, Greg Dann from the Imperial Truth Podcast is on hand with some advice on how to deal with the Neverborn.

Greg: The Daemons of the Ruinstorm army offers a unique challenge in the Age of Darkness, with new rules that combine elements of play that appear in other armies individually. On top of this, each unit in the army can take at least one of the Emanations of Horror,* meaning that between two opponents each unit choice might have a completely different role.

Much like when the Legions first encountered Daemons, it can take a while to adjust to this new threat, and in the meantime they can be daunting to face. Here are just three areas of consideration when taking on the forces of the Primordial Annihilator.

Hard to Kill
Where a Space Marines army might find its resilience in heavily armoured vehicles and 2+ armour saves, a Daemons of the Ruinstorm army brings high Toughness, multiple Wounds and a 5+ invulnerable save. As a result, you’re going to need different tools to deal with them.

The humble autocannon is an example of a weapon that can be overlooked in Legion armies, but it comes into its own against Daemons. It provides 2 shots that ignore the base armour save of all but Ka’bandha and Samus and reliably wounds the majority of unit choices. Doing all of this from 48” away makes a very attractive alternative to much more expensive weapons.

Another way to get around these challenges is to make each hit really count, and nothing works better at that than the Instant Death special rule. This might come in the form of a weapon profile like a Paragon blade, but can also be achieved by the Strength of the weapon being double the Toughness of the target. Strength 10 weapons can do this to Lesser Daemons from the first turn, and by turn five they can even take out Greater Daemons.** Of course, even with the best planning, it’s still possible that the Dark Gods will bless your opponent and they’ll pass all of their invulnerable saves!

Finally, never forget that quantity is a quality all of its own. Most Legion armies are dripping with bolters and, combined with a well-timed Fury of the Legion attack from your Tactical squads, can bring down even the biggest of targets.

Combat
The Assault phase is where most Daemons of the Ruinstorm armies pose the greatest threat. While they have a limited number of shooting attacks and can pump out a LOT of psychic powers, when it comes to killing, they do it best up-close and personal. Dealing with this threat is very similar to taking on any assault-based army.

Avoidance is the most obvious solution – if they can’t charge you then they can’t kill you! Unfortunately, that is easier said than done. Finding ways to slow down the enemy is key, and one way to achieve this is through the valiant sacrifice of a unit. A well-placed Rhino can force a unit to move sideways rather than forward in the Movement phase, and while they can still charge, you can restrict them to only charging that Rhino. By sacrificing a small number of points and some of your own manoeuvrability you can hold up a deadly enemy unit, buying yourself some time and another crucial round of shooting.

If you have access to Fearless or Stubborn units you can take the initiative and charge the enemy yourself, pinning them into position. This allows your other units to tactically withdraw or to concentrate on the remainder of the enemy force.

Of course, Space Marines are no slouches in combat themselves. For example, Firedrakes will give any Monstrous Creature pause, as they have the potential to absorb their attacks and deal the damage back. A World Eaters Rampager squad is a threat to a unit of Lesser Daemons due to the sheer weight of attacks they can bring to bear at a decent Initiative. Speaking of Initiative, one other thing to remember is that Cor’bax is the only Daemon of the Ruinstorm that counts as being equipped with assault grenades – make the most of your terrain in these combats.

Missions
Never take your eye off the mission! Obviously this is true for all games, but it has a different feel when playing against Daemons. Each Aetheric Dominion*** has the ability to ignore the mission that was rolled and play their own. This means you might be trying to hold objectives while your opponent can choose to ignore them completely.

Whether your opponent receives victory points for units destroyed by psychic powers (as with the Maddening Swarms Aetheric Dominion) or by causing enemy units to fail morale checks (as with the Lurid Onslaught Aetheric Dominion) should fundamentally change the way you approach the game. In the face of a Crimson Fury list, for example, where the enemy wants to see units (friend or foe) killed in combat, you may have to resist moving forward onto objectives until later in the game even though it feels counterproductive. If your usual plan plays into the strengths of your opponent to the extent that you do not think you can win, then you need to adapt.

Daemons of the Ruinstorm can be a challenge to face, but if you choose your weapons wisely, pick your combats and never take your eye of the mission, then you’ll be able to carry the day.

Thanks, Greg! If you’d rather fight for the Ruinous Powers rather than against them, make sure you pick up a unit of Ruinstorm Daemon Brutes.

* Emanations represent the vast number of mutations and manifestations of Chaos evidenced by the minions of the Warp and offer individualisation on a huge scale to Daemons of the Ruinstorm armies.
** The Daemons of the Ruinstorm have a special rule called Tides of Madness that symbolises how hard it is for Daemons to remain in realspace. In turn five, they suffer a -1 penalty to their Strength and Toughness.
*** Each Daemons of the Ruinstorm army is drawn from a Warp power, and these powers have their own agendas and goals. The six different Aetheric Dominions provide rules that represent the influence of those Warp powers.


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Post by: Thanatos73


Cenobium got a stealth update. They can now overwatch, are all characters, the leader can take digital lasers and two of the Order rules got buffed a bit. Nice update and made me get off the fence. I really like them now. With Thunder Hammers mostly.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls//Inner_Circle_Knights_Cenobium.pdf


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Post by: FrothingMuppet


I quite like them. I already picked up the Contemptor and the Praetors which are lovely.

I think the bit I really like is how thin the cloaks are - no thick ugly clumps of resin on those guys - its almost plastic cloak thin - which must be a furst for FW.


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Post by: Jackal90


Hoping that the daemon article means they are actually going to drop some daemon stuff now.
Also be nice to get the book back in stock too :/


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Post by: Crablezworth


Really hoping they fix the spicola rockets soon. An artillery tank that needs line of sight but can't draw line of sight.

Spoiler:


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Post by: Slayer-Fan123


 Mothman wrote:
Looks at those rules, looks back to my pheonix guard terminators. Feelsbad

so for 10 points more than my pheonix guard,Terminators they get
-ranged attacks at 2 shots each ap 2 ignoring cover
-adamantium will
-stubborn
-higher ws on their champ and all of them get ws buff for using swords, with options for hammers
- a choice 7 specialist buffs they choose at start of game to tailor to enemy
-2 wounds on their champ
-EVEN THEIR GRENADE HARNESS IS 5 POINTS CHEAPER

in return pheonix terminators get
-ap2 on charge
-can auto win draws
- can spend 15 points for shriekers for a-1 ws buff on enemies which doesn't work against certain legions

Don't Phoenix also gives some morale thing to friendly dudes around them?
But yeah that's an example of the early writing problems some of the Heresy models have.


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Post by: Gadzilla666


Sorry to intrude on the loyalist party, but if the new Night Lords terminators don't get equally strong rules I'm calling shenanigans.


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Post by: Galas


 Crablezworth wrote:
Really hoping they fix the spicola rockets soon. An artillery tank that needs line of sight but can't draw line of sight.

Spoiler:


Why would you drawn the line of sight in that direction? Just draw it in a straight line from the tip of the rockets to the point you are firing.


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Post by: Crablezworth


 Galas wrote:
 Crablezworth wrote:
Really hoping they fix the spicola rockets soon. An artillery tank that needs line of sight but can't draw line of sight.

Spoiler:


Why would you drawn the line of sight in that direction? Just draw it in a straight line from the tip of the rockets to the point you are firing.


Because that's not what the rulebook says to draw line of sight or arc of fire. They forgot to give an artillery tank the barrage rule, very tough for it to fire given its hull mounting and the axis its mounted on.


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Post by: zedmeister


New today:

Arquitor Bombard with Graviton-Charge Cannon



And Book 8 in softback...



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Post by: beast_gts


Bombard rules are up

EDIT: But are missing the Graviton-Charge Cannon


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Post by: zedmeister


beast_gts wrote:
Bombard rules are up

EDIT: But are missing the Graviton-Charge Cannon


Forgeworld never changes. Maybe one day they'll actually do some proof reading


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Post by: H.B.M.C.


Hadn't we already seen that tank before?


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Post by: CragHack


FW.jpg:

*feths up rules link in the first place.
*Fixes, but adds rules for different load out.
*As an insult adds "For rules to use this unit in games of Warhammer 40,000, download the free PDF datasheet below.".

It looks like all they can do is write stupid puns for products that sell for 100+ euros.



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Post by: beast_gts


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hadn't we already seen that tank before?

Yes - and there's a third variant with a 'conventional' mortar coming as well (Morbus heavy bombard).


Automatically Appended Next Post:
And the new rules are up (Graviton-charge cannon 24" * 4 Ordnance 1, Barrage, Large Blast (5"), Concussion, Graviton Pulse, Haywire)


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Post by: ImAGeek


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hadn't we already seen that tank before?


This version is the first one they previewed, in the first Road to Thramas article. The first one they released had a missile cluster at the back instead.


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Post by: H.B.M.C.


Ok, thanks. For some reason I thought this one was out already.


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Post by: Crablezworth


So here's one, they gave the grav weapon barrage but updated the spiccola rocket system to spitefull say it need line of sight... on a artillery tank with a hull mounted weapon pointing up. So its an artilelry tank where only one of its two weapons is barrage... or can even shoot really.