It appears that Sami has removed any posts regarding DM or RF from those 2 accounts that popped up. RF has been quiet for about 8 hours. BCS has gone dark since the 26th.
He keeps posting flame-bait like "On topic please"...
How long til his latest thread gets deleted?
Also, he doesn't take suggestion very well at all it seems, his last two photos people told him to thin out his paint and trim his mold lines, and they're still prevalent on his new photo... It's like he thinks he's that good and doesn't need to take suggestion...wth?
I am really of the impression the Daniel Mandelbaum FB account is not him... The work shown... Well he is a scumbag but he is a much more talented converter than the stuff that account is posting. Not 100% but I have serious doubts.
It's funny then how he's whining about people taking his photos when RF's site is almost nothing but images taken from Forge World's pages and used without permission. Also, since he didn't go to GDUK, I'm just going to assume he didn't take the pics he's posted of the event?
MajorTom11 wrote: Daniel Charles Frank is definitely Daniel Mandelbaum. The actual 'Daniel Mandelbaum' FB account I'm not so sure of....
Automatically Appended Next Post: *they are diff accounts.
I dunno, if it's a fake account, how could he have taken over the Resin Forge FB page?
Would need to have the original page creator make you an admin/mod to do that kind of stuff. :-/
Since the DM-Doppleganger account is posting on behalf of Resin Forge, and we know DCF to be a Daniel Mandelbaum alias, I'm more inclined to believe the two are connected since Daniel Mandelbaum IS in fact updating the Resin Forge page, which he claims he has nothing to do with...
This is confusing, but I think I have things straight...
Aerethan wrote: I don't know if anyone screen shot it, but DCF's recent blow up over the DM account has led to DCF doing 2 things:
1. Publicly admitting that his name is Daniel Mandelbaum
2. Admitting that he, Daniel Mandelbaum, is running Resin Forge.
Previously there was no hard evidence to that end afaik.
i thought this was actually known.... I knew it. and yes DCF is Daniel Mandelbaum. Face book Daniel Mandelbaum is not him Apparently... according to DCF
Would need to have the original page creator make you an admin/mod to do that kind of stuff. :-/
Since the DM-Doppleganger account is posting on behalf of Resin Forge, and we know DCF to be a Daniel Mandelbaum alias, I'm more inclined to believe the two are connected since Daniel Mandelbaum IS in fact updating the Resin Forge page, which he claims he has nothing to do with...
This is confusing, but I think I have things straight...
Where are you getting the idea that the Daniel Mandelbaum account is running the Resin Forge page? All that I've seen that comes close to that is that he posted a link to Resin Forge. But anyone can do that, you don't need admin access.
All of the posts on the Resin Forge page are from the generic Resin Forge account.
Although on that note, it's worth pointing out that despite this grand new age of transparency and legitimacy, the Resin Forge page still appears to contain no public information on the identity of the business owner other than the postal address and phone number. No name.
Would need to have the original page creator make you an admin/mod to do that kind of stuff. :-/
Since the DM-Doppleganger account is posting on behalf of Resin Forge, and we know DCF to be a Daniel Mandelbaum alias, I'm more inclined to believe the two are connected since Daniel Mandelbaum IS in fact updating the Resin Forge page, which he claims he has nothing to do with...
This is confusing, but I think I have things straight...
Where are you getting the idea that the Daniel Mandelbaum account is running the Resin Forge page? All that I've seen that comes close to that is that he posted a link to Resin Forge. But anyone can do that, you don't need admin access.
All of the posts on the Resin Forge page are from the generic Resin Forge account.
Although on that note, it's worth pointing out that despite this grand new age of transparency and legitimacy, the Resin Forge page still appears to contain no public information on the identity of the business owner other than the postal address and phone number. No name.
I'm half tempted to call the phone number and ask for Daniel Charlie Frank just to throw them off...lol
Would need to have the original page creator make you an admin/mod to do that kind of stuff. :-/
Since the DM-Doppleganger account is posting on behalf of Resin Forge, and we know DCF to be a Daniel Mandelbaum alias, I'm more inclined to believe the two are connected since Daniel Mandelbaum IS in fact updating the Resin Forge page, which he claims he has nothing to do with...
This is confusing, but I think I have things straight...
Where are you getting the idea that the Daniel Mandelbaum account is running the Resin Forge page? All that I've seen that comes close to that is that he posted a link to Resin Forge. But anyone can do that, you don't need admin access.
All of the posts on the Resin Forge page are from the generic Resin Forge account.
Although on that note, it's worth pointing out that despite this grand new age of transparency and legitimacy, the Resin Forge page still appears to contain no public information on the identity of the business owner other than the postal address and phone number. No name.
I'm half tempted to call the phone number and ask for Daniel Charlie Frank just to throw them off...lol
From the screenshots we've seen, calling at about 2:30am should get you an answer, seems to be when he's on the phone most.
Would need to have the original page creator make you an admin/mod to do that kind of stuff. :-/
Since the DM-Doppleganger account is posting on behalf of Resin Forge, and we know DCF to be a Daniel Mandelbaum alias, I'm more inclined to believe the two are connected since Daniel Mandelbaum IS in fact updating the Resin Forge page, which he claims he has nothing to do with...
This is confusing, but I think I have things straight...
Where are you getting the idea that the Daniel Mandelbaum account is running the Resin Forge page? All that I've seen that comes close to that is that he posted a link to Resin Forge. But anyone can do that, you don't need admin access.
All of the posts on the Resin Forge page are from the generic Resin Forge account.
Although on that note, it's worth pointing out that despite this grand new age of transparency and legitimacy, the Resin Forge page still appears to contain no public information on the identity of the business owner other than the postal address and phone number. No name.
I'm half tempted to call the phone number and ask for Daniel Charlie Frank just to throw them off...lol
I would be sure to call from a pay phone or a prepaid cell...
Although on that note, it's worth pointing out that despite this grand new age of transparency and legitimacy, the Resin Forge page still appears to contain no public information on the identity of the business owner other than the postal address and phone number. No name.
Ee-yup. Short of social engineering, it's not possible to find the admin of a Facebook page if they haven't offered to add it to the page.
Art Steventon wrote: Sorry, think I may have missed a skip - who's Allan Beholo-Wyatt?
Automatically Appended Next Post: His twitter feed appears to be linked to his FB - he may be using cheap ass version of Hoot suit or similar?
Allan is an admin on the Fan Site group that DM was trying to convince of some manner of nonsense. It resulted in both DM and DCF being booted from the group. Made for an entertaining evening watching Mandelbondsley nerd rage all over the place.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Gah! Missed it all by daring to sleep when the US wakes!
Automatically Appended Next Post: So let me get this straight - he gets booted from his one avenue of publicity, and then the orders start flying out the door?
Try harder Daniel - that one's older that Noah's dog.
Art Steventon wrote: Sorry, think I may have missed a skip - who's Allan Beholo-Wyatt?
Automatically Appended Next Post: His twitter feed appears to be linked to his FB - he may be using cheap ass version of Hoot suit or similar?
Don't worry about him, he's genuine. One of the mods on Sami's Fansite for GW page. Hes finally removed several of DM's posts (after much reluctance, procrastination and skepicism), though he also removed some posts from other users warning about DM and his scams and asked to keep everything Hobby related. It seems warning people about a scammer operating in the group = Spam too. Hopefully he evicted DM's accounts from the group.
@Resinforge's twitter account: yeah, because every successful company protects their tweets from reading *lol* A whole TEN followers, of which a high percentage are our infiltrators *lol^2*
EDIT:
And here the overwhelming number of Resin Forge followers who shared the "happy news" that their favourite retailer is back:
Automatically Appended Next Post: Question: How comes that "Rolljordan Miniatures" is basically one huge platform for Daniel Mandelbaum pictures?!?
Inquisitor S. wrote: @Resinforge's twitter account: yeah, because every successful company protects their tweets from reading *lol* A whole TEN followers, of which a high percentage are our infiltrators *lol^2*
EDIT:
And here the overwhelming number of Resin Forge followers who shared the "happy news" that their favourite retailer is back:
Automatically Appended Next Post: Question: How comes that "Rolljordan Miniatures" is basically one huge platform for Daniel Mandelbaum pictures?!?
I received this from DM, I found it hilarious (the part in quotes is him quoting me on here, and I bolded the funniest part) –
"I am really of the impression the Daniel Mandelbaum FB account is not him... The work shown... Well he is a scumbag but he is a much more talented converter than the stuff that account is posting. Not 100% but I have serious doubts."
That is some imposter stirring up gak. Ive reported it many times to no avail. ive also come across others as well. Note the blank profile, not liking RF itself, and only liking the main things off my page.
You can say whatever you want about me but making fake accounts all with my name to cause troll drama is not one of them. Im busy with Resin Forge which btw, go ahead and keep your eagle eye on it. I bet you cash money you see no problems with it.
I have reported this many times but to no avail??? LOL, oh! I’m so sorry for you! You have my greatest sympathies that must be terrible!
Let me spell something out for you Neil Young’s Crazy Horse, the fact I am honest enough to say I didn’t think the DM account was you in no way reflects well on you. Let’s go through a few things here shall we?
1. Identity - The fact you swore up and down that you would be transparent and use your real name, yet you are just hiding behind another alias in the form of Daniel Charlie Frank is a bloody joke. You have not put Daniel Mandelbaum on anything to do with Resin Forge, STILL. Which makes you a liar in several different ways.
- Just this week, you were conclusively proven to be Alan Weslon, something most everyone already knew but you continue to deny, right past you bs suicide threats and your California address and your pretending to be part of the community over there. You are a liar, you are BCS, and BCS was and is a scam.
2. Resin Forge being ‘Legit’, or unrelated to BCS - Resin Forge is not legit because Resin Forge is you. You are running scams and false identities right up til now. You think because you were wearing a BCS hat this month it means that Resin Forge is A-ok? Get real Mandelbaum. Resin Forge is a cess-pit of bs, from all the owners that weren’t there, to the TWO business registration numbers you claimed to have but never produced, to the HH weekender you never attended, to the absolute BS that you were completely out and bought out 3 months ago yet here you are the sole owner again.
- You sent out messages all over that you were about to be evicted and you needed to sell your old stock immediately and wanted to re-open RF to do it. You immediately, instead of advertising your old stock, start advertising stuff that is pre-release or just released. You can’t afford to order it according to yourself. Yet you on your page say you are ordering thousands of $ worth of items by my count, you aren’t even trying to sell your old stuff. So, who is paying for it? Customers who think they are ordering stuff you have, that’s who. So, looks like another Ponzi scheme to me. And you lied about being evicted too.
- You are still yet to explain or produce any evidence that you had those 3D warhound files, either you have them, which means you have stolen goods, or you don’t have them, which means that it was as pure a scam as any you ever ran. This was a month ago, and it was you. Resin Forge is being run by a lying scammer. Therefore, Resin Forge is not trustworthy in the slightest.
- Not the least which to mention you have yet to produce a business number for ResinForge with your name on it either.
3. Hypocrisy - You complain this guy who made the DM fb account (something I would agree you would never do because hey, it would be truthful and you might die of allergic shock) is an imposter and stirring up gak, and is just there to cause troll drama. You bloody hypocrite. How many aliases have you used? Over a dozen, at the least! How many have you used to cause troll drama? Every single last one. Every one. You run around with your skirt up in the air screaming it isn’t you (proven every time it was), that you are being harassed (by people simply saying the truth of who you are), that you are an honest dude while you are lying about everything about who you are and what you are selling, and that you receive death threats from ‘Dakka’ or the German Nazi ‘Inquisitor S’, who is Belgian.
- Speaking of Death threats, there is only one confirmed threat in this entire ‘game’, and that’s from you my friend, or, at least, your ‘dad’. You have produced nothing, NOTHING, to prove any of your BS claims.
- You sent said threat because I said you used your mother as an alias. You DID use your mother as an alias. TO ME. And you ADMITTED IT, in writing, when I busted you towards the end of that whole Lord.Serpius fiasco. Other than that, I have never said anything about your mother except to offer condolences about her passing. I have even told other people to not speak badly of her when they would do things like question her for raising you. I’m not an animal, it would be to no benefit and completely uncalled for to say anything bad about her, and, even if I think you are a scum-bag, you still lost your mom and no matter what I think of you in this hobby, as a human being that is nothing to use to hurt someone. I wouldn’t do it. Yet you send me psycho messages that I am doing something wrong or I have been dragging her name through the mud. By doing what? You admitted yourself, twice, she was involved (2nd time you said you brought her into the business, first time that it was just you and you got her to pose for the pictures that’s all), and that’s all I’ve ever said. So, I know it’s nice to wave your mother around to make me look like a jerk, but really, all you are doing is continuing to sully her name with that BS, so YOU stop, just accept that if she is mentioned as an alias of yours, it’s all on you and no one is attacking HER.
So, please spare me your ‘Your spot on’ crap. I don’t support you. I don’t believe in you. I think you and RF are still nothing but poison in this hobby. Just because I was honest doesn’t mean I believe any of your crap. You have come clean about nothing. You continue to lie and scam. Resin Forge is a terrible front for you, and everyone will know it if they don’t already. I hope you enjoyed this reality check brought to you by the residents of wargaming community.
They seem to have almost nothing apart from Mandelbaum content.
All I can see on Rolljordan is pictures of dwarves or something, not sure how that relates to DM, screencap?
Yes. Mind, I didn't say they UPLOADED them themselves, it was Daniel who used Rolljordan as a picture dump - typical of what he does with the painters and modellers he befriends - just use them as platform for spreading his models.
See here, the ones with yellow stars are the pictures Rolljordan is tagged in by Resin Forge or by Black Crusade Studio. PLus a lot of status updates Daniel shared as one of his aliases on Rolljordan's timeline.
Spoiler:
NOTE: stitched together from multiple screenshots, nothing added or removed apart from the yellow markers
You owe me a nickle everytime you use that line Aerethan lol
On to this RollJordan Miniatures page... pretty fishy... Am I incorrect to say that the DM facebook account is also posting there, as well as DCF and Alan Welson/BCS?
Are those crappy SoH painted minis actually Mandelbaums?
Might be worth a look around the RollJordan site. I took a glance, but I'm new enough to the hobby that I really wouldn't know what to look for in terms of trouble.
Of course, if it disappears from the internet in the next few hours, I guess we'll know there was something there. Bonus points if it's replaced by pictures of our favourite bird.
Not that you could've possibly forgotten, Tom, but it's probably also worth driving home the continuing inappropriate behaviour regarding calling people dozens of times in the middle of the night.
By "sorting machine" he likely means the automated teller machines at the post office. For some reason, by using these he thinks he insulates himself somehow... possibly by not being able to be identified by a postal employee? Who knows, as you say, Mandelogic lol.
And I fully agree with your post last page, Tom. That was well said. Quoted in spoilers below:
Spoiler:
MajorTom11 wrote: I received this from DM, I found it hilarious (the part in quotes is him quoting me on here, and I bolded the funniest part) –
"I am really of the impression the Daniel Mandelbaum FB account is not him... The work shown... Well he is a scumbag but he is a much more talented converter than the stuff that account is posting. Not 100% but I have serious doubts."
That is some imposter stirring up gak. Ive reported it many times to no avail. ive also come across others as well. Note the blank profile, not liking RF itself, and only liking the main things off my page.
You can say whatever you want about me but making fake accounts all with my name to cause troll drama is not one of them. Im busy with Resin Forge which btw, go ahead and keep your eagle eye on it. I bet you cash money you see no problems with it.
I have reported this many times but to no avail??? LOL, oh! I’m so sorry for you! You have my greatest sympathies that must be terrible!
Let me spell something out for you Neil Young’s Crazy Horse, the fact I am honest enough to say I didn’t think the DM account was you in no way reflects well on you. Let’s go through a few things here shall we?
1. Identity - The fact you swore up and down that you would be transparent and use your real name, yet you are just hiding behind another alias in the form of Daniel Charlie Frank is a bloody joke. You have not put Daniel Mandelbaum on anything to do with Resin Forge, STILL. Which makes you a liar in several different ways.
- Just this week, you were conclusively proven to be Alan Weslon, something most everyone already knew but you continue to deny, right past you bs suicide threats and your California address and your pretending to be part of the community over there. You are a liar, you are BCS, and BCS was and is a scam.
2. Resin Forge being ‘Legit’, or unrelated to BCS - Resin Forge is not legit because Resin Forge is you. You are running scams and false identities right up til now. You think because you were wearing a BCS hat this month it means that Resin Forge is A-ok? Get real Mandelbaum. Resin Forge is a cess-pit of bs, from all the owners that weren’t there, to the TWO business registration numbers you claimed to have but never produced, to the HH weekender you never attended, to the absolute BS that you were completely out and bought out 3 months ago yet here you are the sole owner again.
- You sent out messages all over that you were about to be evicted and you needed to sell your old stock immediately and wanted to re-open RF to do it. You immediately, instead of advertising your old stock, start advertising stuff that is pre-release or just released. You can’t afford to order it according to yourself. Yet you on your page say you are ordering thousands of $ worth of items by my count, you aren’t even trying to sell your old stuff. So, who is paying for it? Customers who think they are ordering stuff you have, that’s who. So, looks like another Ponzi scheme to me. And you lied about being evicted too.
- You are still yet to explain or produce any evidence that you had those 3D warhound files, either you have them, which means you have stolen goods, or you don’t have them, which means that it was as pure a scam as any you ever ran. This was a month ago, and it was you. Resin Forge is being run by a lying scammer. Therefore, Resin Forge is not trustworthy in the slightest.
- Not the least which to mention you have yet to produce a business number for ResinForge with your name on it either.
3. Hypocrisy - You complain this guy who made the DM fb account (something I would agree you would never do because hey, it would be truthful and you might die of allergic shock) is an imposter and stirring up gak, and is just there to cause troll drama. You bloody hypocrite. How many aliases have you used? Over a dozen, at the least! How many have you used to cause troll drama? Every single last one. Every one. You run around with your skirt up in the air screaming it isn’t you (proven every time it was), that you are being harassed (by people simply saying the truth of who you are), that you are an honest dude while you are lying about everything about who you are and what you are selling, and that you receive death threats from ‘Dakka’ or the German Nazi ‘Inquisitor S’, who is Belgian.
- Speaking of Death threats, there is only one confirmed threat in this entire ‘game’, and that’s from you my friend, or, at least, your ‘dad’. You have produced nothing, NOTHING, to prove any of your BS claims.
- You sent said threat because I said you used your mother as an alias. You DID use your mother as an alias. TO ME. And you ADMITTED IT, in writing, when I busted you towards the end of that whole Lord.Serpius fiasco. Other than that, I have never said anything about your mother except to offer condolences about her passing. I have even told other people to not speak badly of her when they would do things like question her for raising you. I’m not an animal, it would be to no benefit and completely uncalled for to say anything bad about her, and, even if I think you are a scum-bag, you still lost your mom and no matter what I think of you in this hobby, as a human being that is nothing to use to hurt someone. I wouldn’t do it. Yet you send me psycho messages that I am doing something wrong or I have been dragging her name through the mud. By doing what? You admitted yourself, twice, she was involved (2nd time you said you brought her into the business, first time that it was just you and you got her to pose for the pictures that’s all), and that’s all I’ve ever said. So, I know it’s nice to wave your mother around to make me look like a jerk, but really, all you are doing is continuing to sully her name with that BS, so YOU stop, just accept that if she is mentioned as an alias of yours, it’s all on you and no one is attacking HER.
So, please spare me your ‘Your spot on’ crap. I don’t support you. I don’t believe in you. I think you and RF are still nothing but poison in this hobby. Just because I was honest doesn’t mean I believe any of your crap. You have come clean about nothing. You continue to lie and scam. Resin Forge is a terrible front for you, and everyone will know it if they don’t already. I hope you enjoyed this reality check brought to you by the residents of wargaming community.
As for his selling things, even if he has, it's irrelevant. He always delivers on some things, it helps cover his leading others on in the background by being able to hold up an example or two of a successful delivery. Although in this case, it's more likely that he's just blowing smoke. Doesn't matter either way, you'd have to be certifiably insane to order from him
RollJordan is legit...
they have been around for years, producing their own minis, holding painting contests, and selling stuff...
last trade i made with them was back in 2008...
i traded an original MkI Land Raider for some unreleased topless Vect slave girls (to go with my unreleased Malekith on foot)...
totally legit casts, and easy guys to deal with...
i also bought Horus and The Emperor off them around the same time, as well as Sad Girl and Toxic Girl...
it's a whole crew of sculptors and painters that are very respected in Europe, and do amazing paintjobs, as well as producing limited runs of minis that are highly sought after...
shame that Mandelbaum is now dragging their name through the mud, too...
Thanks Ritides, and yes, quite right I forgot that one. As of just yesterday, the phone harrassment of various parties was ongoing. He is using techniques to hide his number to get around people who have blocked his other phone #s already. He even started harrassing a woman simply because she dropped his advertising after she found out that he lied about who he was, using an alias. Apparently in Mandelworld if you simply state the facts of a situation and then want to never speak of it again, you have committed a great betrayal and deserve harassment, as you are now 'out to get him'.
No one is out to get you Daniel. Why do we talk about you everyday? Because everyday you harass and lie and scam. If you simply stopped, we would stop talking about you. Stop pooping on our lawn and then get angry when we point at you and tell you to stop pooping on the lawn. Don't want to be yelled at for lawn pooping? Stay off the damn lawn.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Jah you may want to tell them Mandelbaum is using their name to add legitimacy to an illegitimate business, and targeting their members.
Might be worth a look around the RollJordan site. I took a glance, but I'm new enough to the hobby that I really wouldn't know what to look for in terms of trouble.
Of course, if it disappears from the internet in the next few hours, I guess we'll know there was something there. Bonus points if it's replaced by pictures of our favourite bird.
I don't think it will. If I understand that correctly there is a company in Italy making minis (at least they share the name and logo), that seems to fit. That's why I said that the page (Rolljordan) does not upload these pics themselves. They are displayed there because Daniel tagged Rolljordan in them.
Are those crappy SoH painted minis actually Mandelbaums?
Yep. Btw hilarious comment by Daniel:
The chipped paint doesn't even show the highlights, but that's ok, ill just buy Photoshop and make sure all future pics are actually decent!
yeah, RollJordan is in Italy...
that's where all of my packages came from...
so, Daniel is getting evicted and needs money, yet he can afford to buy FW AND Photoshop!!!
this guy really can't keep his stories straight, which is not really shocking, considering their are so many stories to keep straight...
I'm actually interested in the 'automatic sorting machine' bit. Those of you who trade a lot know that those machines print out genuine tracking numbers that show up on the proper websites, usually with the tag line 'electronic shipping info received' or something like that.
Buuuuuuut those machines aren't postal clerks. You have to physically put the package into the bin yourself. Very easy to print off a legit label and not put the package in the bin.
It would be so easy to say 'oh, that's odd, the number is active and I shipped it. I'll go talk to the post office."
Yeah, they're doing away with that here KK (or at least, adding an automated option to supplement it). I don't think it's that easy to game the system godswildcard, but I certainly think it would be easier than doing so with a human being standing in front of you...
He's also mentioned before that he does it because he can go in off hours. Again, no one there to supervise...!
Regardless, it's kind of moot. I've personally seen him send things successfully using those machines (or at least, when he said he used them). If he can game the system that way, it's just one more of hundreds of ways in which he tries to do so... so it doesn't really matter that much in the end.
jah-joshua wrote: yeah, RollJordan is in Italy...
that's where all of my packages came from...
so, Daniel is getting evicted and needs money, yet he can afford to buy FW AND Photoshop!!!
this guy really can't keep his stories straight, which is not really shocking, considering their are so many stories to keep straight...
On the plus side, if he says he sent a parcel and proves it with a tracking number, but it never arrives (perhaps because the parcel was not put into the system), the (non) recipient can claim a refund anyway.
Also there would be no tracking after the parcel entered the system, because it could not be checked through any intermediate depots.
jah-joshua wrote: yeah, RollJordan is in Italy...
that's where all of my packages came from...
so, Daniel is getting evicted and needs money, yet he can afford to buy FW AND Photoshop!!!
this guy really can't keep his stories straight, which is not really shocking, considering their are so many stories to keep straight...
Kilkrazy wrote: On the plus side, if he says he sent a parcel and proves it with a tracking number, but it never arrives (perhaps because the parcel was not put into the system), the (non) recipient can claim a refund anyway.
Also there would be no tracking after the parcel entered the system, because it could not be checked through any intermediate depots.
Well they can claim a refund, but only from Daniel or through their payment option since the postal contract taken out is with the poster not the recipient. Least in the UK that is the way things work; if something goes wrong its whoever posted it who has to contact and sort it out (Unless I've had it wrong for years).
That's all well and fine, however when, in the past, he's sent out false packages the method has been to ensure that the excuses keep up until the deadline for refunds via payment options (eg the 40 day paypal window) expire.
A little servo skull came floating into my office and reported to me that with it's excellently calibrated optical sensors it had discovered the following *interesting* coincidence. I decided just to deposit it on the pile labelled "Welson/ Mandelbaum" - it does not add new information, but it's decorative.
Take note of those little brown rivets he uses (the only person I know to do so), the exact same ballast, the same mix of green and brown stuff, the same amount of brass etc.
This is actually what got the general community looking at BCS in the first place way back a month ago when the Alan Welson saga started. So many people saw the style of conversion work and said immediately it was Mandelbaum.
Such good work. It's a shame and a tragedy that all that potential is wasted on a person that is just not capable of actually doing honest work and who will never be able to capitalize on that talent.
Kilkrazy wrote: On the plus side, if he says he sent a parcel and proves it with a tracking number, but it never arrives (perhaps because the parcel was not put into the system), the (non) recipient can claim a refund anyway.
Also there would be no tracking after the parcel entered the system, because it could not be checked through any intermediate depots.
Well they can claim a refund, but only from Daniel or through their payment option since the postal contract taken out is with the poster not the recipient. Least in the UK that is the way things work; if something goes wrong its whoever posted it who has to contact and sort it out (Unless I've had it wrong for years).
That's all well and fine, however when, in the past, he's sent out false packages the method has been to ensure that the excuses keep up until the deadline for refunds via payment options (eg the 40 day paypal window) expire.
Yes, the refund would have to be claimed from Resin Forge.
That is why we always advise people not to cancel their PayPal claim. The other way is to pay by credit card.
To be fair, they are also used by Machinator for his excellent Fellblades here.
I am not saying that it isn't a remarkable similarity across a wide variety of materials, and I am not disagreeing with your overall conclusion.
I am just addressing the rivets.
To be fair, they are also used by Machinator for his excellent Fellblades here.
I am not saying that it isn't a remarkable similarity across a wide variety of materials, and I am not disagreeing with your overall conclusion.
I am just addressing the rivets.
I've had an account of a scam pulled by DM in his 'Resin Forge' guise.
The victim wishes to remain anonymous, having followed DM's erratic behaviour in previous accounts, so I will have to ask that you believe this account, or not, but I will not be giving specific details,
Earlier this year, the buyer agreed to purchase goods from Resin Forge, and paid for goods and delivery through PayPal.
After the goods had not arrived after a few weeks, they chased DM, asking for details on the delivery (international ), and was told that yes, the goods had been despatched, but only recently following 'personal issues' DM had been experiencing.
A few more weeks passed and the buyer asked for a refund as the goods had not materialised. DM promised a 50% refund and the goods should they turn up.
As of now (6 months later) no goods - no refund.
The buyer had given up any hope until I posted on FB and Twitter to look here, but still does not hold out my hope of getting a refund.
So there we have it - a unhappy customer for RESIN FORGE, something DM claimed did not exist.
I've shared contact details with the buyer (and also the mods here).
Art Steventon wrote: I've had an account of a scam pulled by DM in his 'Resin Forge' guise.
The victim wishes to remain anonymous, having followed DM's erratic behaviour in previous accounts, so I will have to ask that you believe this account, or not, but I will not be giving specific details,
Earlier this year, the buyer agreed to purchase goods from Resin Forge, and paid for goods and delivery through PayPal.
After the goods had not arrived after a few weeks, they chased DM, asking for details on the delivery (international ), and was told that yes, the goods had been despatched, but only recently following 'personal issues' DM had been experiencing.
A few more weeks passed and the buyer asked for a refund as the goods had not materialised. DM promised a 50% refund and the goods should they turn up.
As of now (6 months later) no goods - no refund.
The buyer had given up any hope until I posted on FB and Twitter to look here, but still does not hold out my hope of getting a refund.
So there we have it - a unhappy customer for RESIN FORGE, something DM claimed did not exist.
I've shared contact details with the buyer (and also the mods here).
So how did he Pay for the items from RF? if it was paypal, he could of claimed it back, if it was via Debit or credit card he could of claimed it back. And if it was Paypal gift. then well what did he expect?
People expect honest dealing. It may be naive but there it is.
Paypal's complaint and refund structure has a time limit. A scammer will seek to drag out the complaint beyond the 45 days (?) so that the money can't be clawed back.
IDK how it works with credit cards, however Mandelbaum probably doesn't have a facility to take payments by credit card.
However, interesting though the story is, it cannot be taken as proof without the alleged victim revealing something of his experience and identity. An email chain, for instance.
I can understand why he would not want to get involved, though.
Kilkrazy wrote: People expect honest dealing. It may be naive but there it is.
Paypal's complaint and refund structure has a time limit. A scammer will seek to drag out the complaint beyond the 45 days (?) so that the money can't be clawed back.
IDK how it works with credit cards, however Mandelbaum probably doesn't have a facility to take payments by credit card.
However, interesting though the story is, it cannot be taken as proof without the alleged victim revealing something of his experience and identity. An email chain, for instance.
I can understand why he would not want to get involved, though.
I cant actualy see any reason why someone who has been scammed, and has done nothing wrong would not come forward, if anything to warn off others. personaly if i had been scammed by someone, I would let other know. and provide proof about it. Waiting weeks in order to get models, and not claiming back your money through the paymeant source even on the very last day allowed to do so. If he purchased goods that he did not recieve via paypal gift, he can also report that, as that will be counted as un declared taxes. I dont want to go as far as saying the poster here made up the story, as his friend could of just been very very very naive. how ever it does sound rather dodgey in its self.
I guess if there are maney more people who have gotten scammed by DM and wont come forward as they "dont want to get involved" then there is no reason why DM will not continue to do what he is doing.
PredaKhaine wrote: If I'd bought something from a seller who is known to harass people, I'd want to keep my name out of a thread that I know the seller reads.
Harassmeant is also an offence, especially international. And with todays Cyber bullying crap all over the news every 5 miniutes. It will be dealt with fast.
PredaKhaine wrote: Its easier to not have it occur than to try and sort it out while its happening.
People like to avoid confrontation if they can.
Just sayin.
Suppose so. I guess we will have to wait for someone else to get scammed. to take any action. I would buy something my self if it wasnt for the fact it would be classed as entrapmeant to buy something in the hope he scams me lol
Kilkrazy wrote: People expect honest dealing. It may be naive but there it is.
Paypal's complaint and refund structure has a time limit. A scammer will seek to drag out the complaint beyond the 45 days (?) so that the money can't be clawed back.
IDK how it works with credit cards, however Mandelbaum probably doesn't have a facility to take payments by credit card.
However, interesting though the story is, it cannot be taken as proof without the alleged victim revealing something of his experience and identity. An email chain, for instance.
I can understand why he would not want to get involved, though.
Art has provided me with the name and evidence, it is legit. And the reasons for not coming forward are unfortunately very obvious at this point as DM would have the contact details and no compunction about harassing the living crap out of them.
That being said, I can give my word that I have a name and specific story behind this, and I would hope at this point, that would count for a little something when it comes to this subject
PredaKhaine wrote: Its easier to not have it occur than to try and sort it out while its happening.
People like to avoid confrontation if they can.
Just sayin.
Suppose so. I guess we will have to wait for someone else to get scammed. to take any action. I would buy something my self if it wasnt for the fact it would be classed as entrapmeant to buy something in the hope he scams me lol
I believe normal citizens are exempt from 'entrapment', on cops can't do it. Also, I don't see really how it is entrapment, as you aren't doing anything out of the ordinary to 'cajole' misbehaviour.
1st, entrapment has to be done by an agent of the government. Private citizens can act as an agent, but they have to be directed by the government to be considered one.
2nd, for it to be entrapment, the police would have to say "scam people, its okay, we won't do anything". Then when he commits the scam, they arrest him.
what KK said is on. He has to be induced to do it.
Then i may just purchase from him. As its a sad fact that people are unwilling to come forward in the fear that they will be hasseld by DM. If this is the case then he has allready won.
EDIT: also seems as though everything has been deleted off of the facebook group Just checked it and it empty. No photos no posts no nothing.
Then i may just purchase from him. As its a sad fact that people are unwilling to come forward in the fear that they will be hasseld by DM. If this is the case then he has allready won.
No, in fact he has lost. Because people will a) not buy in the first place because they are afarid of being harassed later or b) if they buy should be clever enougn to not hand over telephone numbers under any circumstances.
Also, he hasn't won anything. Every single 'customer' of his, everyone he wants to sell some illegal crap to on the sly, everyone he may want to screw over could be someone just like you who wants to catch him and nail him.
All this attention has certainly, certainly impacted his ability to scam, I assure you. The fact he went back to RF and didn't just start something else as he attempted to with BCS means he knows his ability to do so unnoticed is over.
All the biggest FB groups are watching for him. All the biggest forums are watching for him. He has most certainly not 'won', in fact, he has never been more boxed in than he is now.
If anyone is buying from him, at least they are doing so quite likely in full knowledge of who he is, and at that point, I have no pity for them when he finally starts screwing people. People who have his history in front of them and ignore it have no bloody sympathy from me. I am glad that quite a few have been spared buying from him.
Just to point out, a fulfilled order doesn't necessarily remove accusations of scamming by DM.
Not having a go or anything cerbrus2, but scams nearly always include legitimate orders as well as unfulfilled ones so as to increase trust in the scam and allow accusations of scammery to be swept under the carpet.
Plus, DM watches this thread, so it would be unlikely to be a blind test. By all means go for it though.
Another "Daniel Charlie Frank = Daniel Mandelbaum" nail just in case;
PS : Just wanted to add - all the side discussions that have absolutely nothing pertinent to add to this case are rather distracting from the developing story itself.
There is no need to add nails to the coffin. It's nailed.
Daniel Charlie Frank is Daniel Mandelbaum by his own admission. Alan Welson is Daniel Mandelbaum by his own errors and other evidence.
100% rock solidly known, no doubt, no need to point out slip-ups at this point. We can all just proceed to discuss both items as fact. Nail in the coffin implies it is still somehow in question, and it isn't.
MajorTom11 wrote: There is no need to add nails to the coffin. It's nailed.
Daniel Charlie Frank is Daniel Mandelbaum by his own admission. Alan Welson is Daniel Mandelbaum by his own errors and other evidence.
100% rock solidly known, no doubt, no need to point out slip-ups at this point. We can all just proceed to discuss both items as fact. Nail in the coffin implies it is still somehow in question, and it isn't.
Fair enough. With all the non-pertinent things happening in this thread it's often hard to work out what exactly has transpired.
Another "Daniel Charlie Frank = Daniel Mandelbaum" nail just in case;
That combined with the statement directly above to be clear, as the "About section" actually names "Daniel Mandelbaum".
Which is new by the way, as my screenshot from Sep 30 in this thread clearly shows. Of course founder is not necessarily owner, no doubt a convenient fall-back should the need arise, ey, Daniel?
What changed about the site? Everything is as it was, just with the new "open" image. I thought you meant like an overhaul on the theme/layout of the site.
MajorTom11 wrote: It looks overhauled to me... sure you aren't seeing a cached version?
I shouldn't be, I do everything in private browsing, so I shouldn't have cached versions of the site... I'm not saying it hasn't been updated, but from web viewing experiences it doesn't look different
Tom could you screen cap what you're seeing?
Here is what I'm seeing on my phone and computer, which looks like how it did a few weeks ago.
Art Steventon wrote: I've had an account of a scam pulled by DM in his 'Resin Forge' guise....
...I've shared contact details with the buyer (and also the mods here).
It wasn't someone off the Fansite for GW page was it? If it was, then a "We told you so" is in order for Sami and co.
Its a shame that DM chooses to act so dishonestly, because he definitely has some good hobby potential. I know that DM has been caught passing off other people's work as his own in the past so anything that he claims to be his own work is suspect, but if the Sons of Horus army were genuinely made by him then he definitely has some good skills at converting models and making personalised bases (though his painting is still cack). Heck, if he didn't have such a piss poor, untrustworthy reputation then I'd be interested in buying those SOH models and paint them myself.
He should stick to doing what he (apparently) does best:
-converting models
-personalised bases
-he should build a COMPLETE army and THEN try to sell it.
He should NOT be operating a retail business (selling Forgeworld product, selling Titans which he does not own and has no right to sell). But he could do honest work, by building and converting complete armies, ONE ARMY at a time, from start until completion. When an army collection is complete, he can then advertise it and put it up for sale. He should NOT take commissions, because he's proven that he has no ability or intention to actually fulfill the orders he takes, except when he needs a Useful Idiot, sorry, Customer to make himself look good.
Forgeworld stuff is hard to work with, so there must surely be a market for complete armies of Forgeworld Resin models, properly cleaned, converted and based with an interesting unifying theme (Horus Heresy Siege army, Urban fighters, etc). Build and convert a complete army, THEN sell it.
Just last week I finished converting a Horus Heresy Legion Recon squad (the snipers) into a 40K era Raven Guard Sternguard team (using FW Umbra Ferrox boltguns) and it was a real nightmare to build. I coated my hands in glue, it took several attempts to get the boltguns to line up with the arms (designed for sniper rifles and shotguns, NOT the bulkier UF boltguns), I cut my thumb a few times (3 paper size cuts), got glue all over the dining room table. If I had the money, I'd definately be inclined to buy full units or armies already built, converted and based.
I closed the FB page and closed the website. The website takes a bit before its taken down though.
Im done with your bullgak games. You guys have had my home address since 2009 when rick came. My number has NEVER changed, both the 632 and 864. Always the same. Claiming you cant find me for years was bs. I have a load more to say but ill end it with fek you.
The little charmer.
You'll forgive us if we don't let our guard down.
Oh well it's been 2 days, time for some more dramatics I suppose. Continue to adore that he thinks I am orchestrating the whole community single-handedly and that this would not be happening otherwise lol. With me or without me Mandelbaum, you would be in the same spot. Again, please feel free to yell obscenities at the mirror should you feel the need to actually address the real and only person single handedly responsible for your situation.
The closing of the store must be interesting for those (allegedly) four people who ordered from him. No pesky phone numbers or contact details in handy reach to call when their stuff doesn't arrive.
I closed the FB page and closed the website. The website takes a bit before its taken down though.
Im done with your bullgak games. You guys have had my home address since 2009 when rick came. My number has NEVER changed, both the 632 and 864. Always the same. Claiming you cant find me for years was bs. I have a load more to say but ill end it with fek you.
The little charmer.
You'll forgive us if we don't let our guard down.
Oh well it's been 2 days, time for some more dramatics I suppose. Continue to adore that he thinks I am orchestrating the whole community single-handedly and that this would not be happening otherwise lol. With me or without me Mandelbaum, you would be in the same spot. Again, please feel free to yell obscenities at the mirror should you feel the need to actually address the real and only person single handedly responsible for your situation.
Agreed, and keep the watch out- he seems to never tire of this, but I hope that at least he's having less and less success in his schemes now that his name is becoming known pretty far and wide in the wargaming community as someone who has scammed so many people. Certainly, this one (and the last) were quite short-lived and can't have really been "worth it" for him in the end.
I'm sure he is gonna show up with off-brand titan bits he made. I bet you anything, he jumped pretty quick when I mentioned that, don't think I have forgotten DM.
So, in particular, keep an eye out for titan stuff as well as the other usual suspects.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and Daniel, you forgot to shut down Black Crusade Studios too.
That was too fast ! I would suspect that RF and BCS have both been sacrificed as a smoke screen . The meltdown phase was to restrained and not dragged out as much as the last few times ,literally under 24 hours since the Warning messages started hitting the majority of feeds to a close down of RF facebook and web pages .
Well, he also conveniently forgets he was lying through his face during the specified years and using nothing but aliases. We didn't even know his real name til 2012 lol!
So, we always knew exactly where he was and how to reach him in 2009. We simply didn't know WHO he was or WHY we should be looking at that particular location or phone #, because he lied about everything all along and never used his real name. Really though, why can't we see he was being completely transparent while being completely dishonest! What's wrong with us!
Mandelogic: 2 + 2 = quack. (I'm taking it back Aerethan lol)
Did Daniel just threaten to stop scamming? Noooooo!
Kilkrazy wrote: Not sure how one is supposed to know where a mobile phone number is located.
With current technology it could be anywhere in the inhabited world..
Not sure what you mean, but with a bit of googling, any person can locate an active mobile phone.
MajorTom11 wrote: Well, he also conveniently forgets he was lying through his face during the specified years and using nothing but aliases. We didn't even know his real name til 2012 lol!
So, we always knew exactly where he was and how to reach him in 2009. We simply didn't know WHO he was or WHY we should be looking at that particular location or phone #, because he lied about everything all along and never used his real name. Really though, why can't we see he was being completely transparent while being completely dishonest! What's wrong with us!
Mandelogic: 2 + 2 = quack. (I'm taking it back Aerethan lol)
Exactly! Just because you have a number doesn't mean you'll answer, DOES IT DANIEL!?!?!?! Weeks and months of not knowing why you don't have your crap? Rick I do not care who it is or what they say, you do not circumvent the swear filter or be so crude. MT11
In that case: no Daniel, you are not transparent at all and a very, very unpleasant person.
d-usa wrote: Smoke screen, I'm sticking with my original assessment.
If you mean try to re-open the RF business, all the while putting the finishes on the new "Daniel's latest way to try to screw people" website, I agree.
When the "white flag" was sent to MT11, it was my first thought too. He must be ready to launch, if not already running.
I'm curious about the four customers Black Crusade Studio is supposed to have waiting on titans. He said he was going to be posting pictures of those titans soon, and that was like a week ago. Really curious to see how they look because he does do good work.
I'm curious about the four customers Black Crusade Studio is supposed to have waiting on titans. He said he was going to be posting pictures of those titans soon, and that was like a week ago. Really curious to see how they look because he does do good work.
Considering none of those alleged customers ever left a comment (as far as I saw) I simply doubt they exist. And how often did he keep up on actually uploading promised pics? Yeah, exactly.
Short term promises that are never fulfilled are a pretty common thing in his scams. It's normally a sign when things have passed the legitimate phase and well entered the phase where he is active in scamming people; since he can't take or display photos of things he hasn't got.
Sometimes he'll throw up a smoke screen; such as the Games Day release last year where he simply tagged and added a large number of other peoples photos from the event and spun out a series of excuses for why he couldn't show any of his own directly (despite having said he would only days before - note that should also be a "they" as at the time RF claimed to have at least 3 staff members).
Yes, quite a variety of fictional characters were involved, lawyers, pr people etc. Quite a fine corporate team for a guy working out of his Dad's spare room.
I'd love to see a PR person actually try to do something with the moldering pile that is DM's reputation lol. That would be a masterclass.
Four rf employees... Four customers for the Titan.... Four RF customers.
Trend when lying? Or perhaps he's got a little bit of OCD and prefers that number to any other (I kinda do the same thing with 3. My units need to be in multiples of 3...)
Next one would be 'company' #4 just this year alone. And if he uses another alias, it would be the 7th or 8th name he has used, and the 4th dedicated alias.
MajorTom11 wrote: Yes, quite a variety of fictional characters were involved, lawyers, pr people etc. Quite a fine corporate team for a guy working out of his Dad's spare room.
I'd love to see a PR person actually try to do something with the moldering pile that is DM's reputation lol. That would be a masterclass.
Maybe not his reputation, but man would I love to try to reclaim the name of Resin Forge, as I think its actually a good name for a 3rd party casting company. Of course it would be easy to reclaim it with simple things like a real phone number, a business ID number, actually meeting people.
Have to disagree there... the fact is he has proven not to be trustworthy on any level. You can't take his word for anything, and he also doesn't seem to think consequences apply to him.
We all know at this point, even if he makes good on any one particular agreement, or even several for a period of time, that his 100% consistent pattern to this point is to eventually start reneging. Knowing that, a reasonable person would never put themselves in the queue, not knowing if they are on the 'safe' side of it or the unsafe side.
This doesn't even take into account the likelihood of harassment to compound the aggravation of being ripped off in the event you complain. Or the risk that you are purchasing stolen or illegal goods in many cases with him (lego knight titan cloned heads, warhound that was stolen or non-existent, cast parts, selling pre-orders he had no access to etc etc etc), not to mention partial or low quality delivery even on deals he did more or less complete.
No, I don't think there is much that can be done at this point to make this guy someone anyone sane would want anything to do with. As I said to him a few days ago, if he did want to pursue righting his wrongs, it would take years of hard work, 100% honesty, accountability and transparency, and a complete willingness to fess up and take his licks like a man for what he has done. He incapable of even understanding those concepts in the way a normal person would, much less fulfilling them.
Four rf employees... Four customers for the Titan.... Four RF customers.
444 - the Number of the Mandelbaumbeast.
but man would I love to try to reclaim the name of Resin Forge, as I think its actually a good name for a 3rd party casting company.
Didn't Daniel already reclaim that name from a previous company? So you would have to fight against two previous incarnations of your company name - one of them Mandelbaum's. Doesn't strike me as a brilliant plan.
Four rf employees... Four customers for the Titan.... Four RF customers.
444 - the Number of the Mandelbaumbeast.
but man would I love to try to reclaim the name of Resin Forge, as I think its actually a good name for a 3rd party casting company.
Didn't Daniel already reclaim that name from a previous company? So you would have to fight against two previous incarnations of your company name - one of them Mandelbaum's. Doesn't strike me as a brilliant plan.
Yeah but for most people, they probably only knew of the DM's RF, and of the harm he created to the name, could very easily be reclaimed. You would have to be 100% transparent and such, but you could reclaim the name and make it successful. (assuming that it is true that there was another company using it)
You would have to do it more for the thrill of the challenge, not just because it is a decent name.
Kanluwen wrote: Or you could do the smart thing and name yourself something else entirely.
The name is damaged beyond repair now.
Idk. If I approached major tom, taking over the name and being transparent, he seems like hed be reasonable enough to issue a statement that says to the effect: "I can confirm this guy is not Daniel mandelbaum." That statement would go a long way IMO.
It's Daniels name that is ruined. Not resinforge. And that is mostly because of how many identities and companies he has assumed.
Even if someone else did take over the name, it will always be associated with Mandelbaum. People will always be bringing up his scams, even if the new owners were unrelated to him.
The name Resin Forge could be taken over, but what company would want to hinder themselves early by taking over a name that is already tarnished by a previous owner. Maybe a few years down the line provided that the name doesn't resurface under use by Daniel again during that time you could make a go at it; but otherwise whilst its a neat name it offers no benefit over a massive array of other possible names that wouldn't come with the heavy baggage of a bad reputation.
Daniels specific use of aliases and the large amount of documenting though could mean that the name is tarnished for many many more years as any curious search would bring up the warnings as well as the reminder that he strongly uses aliases.
It's a lot of work for utterly no gain and with the potential risk that its going to cost a lot in marketing to clear the name and keep it clear in the public eye - money and marketing that could be far better spent promoting the company itself.
As for Daniel; its been said many times that he's some solid converting skills; that he chooses to use these in bids to scam the community repeatedly is baffling to most of us. However his repeat use and pre-emptive use of aliases and hiding details as well as his lashing out show that its not an accident. This isn't someone who's making mistakes because they don't know how to run a company - he knows very well what he's doing (and after several threads like this should have even more of an idea considering all the points that get raised).
The only way he could profit legitimately from the hobby now would be to join an already established company and work through them - however that's only transferring the problem of him to that company to manage and considering his customer service and honesty track records I can't see any company (and lets remember most are very small time; they don't have divisions of people or such to keep wayward employees in line) wanting to take him on. He's got skill but not outstanding/unique skill.
Next one would be 'company' #4 just this year alone. And if he uses another alias, it would be the 7th or 8th name he has used, and the 4th dedicated alias.
I repeat, for this year alone.
Yeah... he's getting pretty desperate. I imagine these schemes are not netting him nearly as much money in scams as they used to, given the fact that the community is on the lookout for him and they got exposed so quickly. Less money from scams = not as worth it. Hopefully, the trend continues! And one day, he realizes he has better things to do.
Could we please stop with this completely irrelevant and offtopic discussion if the name RF could be taken over or not? Thanks. Not even mentioning the fact that it surely is not MT11 task to whitewash trader wannabes and to guarantee with his reputation that they don't feth up. Or whatever. Offtopic as I said.
And no matter how "talented" Daniel is or not, he's the most manipulative SoB I have ever encountered in this hobby and I would never touch anything he is connected to, not even with an extremely long stick. He's a psycho. Talented maybe, psycho nevertheless. There are enough normal talented people out there where you won't have to worry that they will make your life hell or drag your company into the abyss because of whatever whimsical reason.
Who cares about the name ResinForge... there are a billion other names, and although on it's own it is a cool enough name, why would anyone choose to take on the burden it brings along with it instead of just finding an equally cool, non-mandelbombed name.
I would certainly confirm 'new resinforge is not Mandelbaum' if someone wanted me to, but ultimately I would strongly recommend they put their efforts into something that doesn't require so much effort just to get it back to 'normal'. That's time you could spend on productive things instead of a burden...
At this point I think this line of conversation is pretty used up so let's please stick to more important topics... this is ultimately irrelevant conjecture.
MajorTom11 wrote: Yes, quite a variety of fictional characters were involved, lawyers, pr people etc. Quite a fine corporate team for a guy working out of his Dad's spare room.
I'd love to see a PR person actually try to do something with the moldering pile that is DM's reputation lol. That would be a masterclass.
Maybe not his reputation, but man would I love to try to reclaim the name of Resin Forge, as I think its actually a good name for a 3rd party casting company. Of course it would be easy to reclaim it with simple things like a real phone number, a business ID number, actually meeting people.
The name was never registered, so go for it. You only need to file the appropriate forms in your local jurisdiction. The same goes for Black Crusade Studios, in fact.
In that case, someone could easily register the names for Resin Forge and Black Crusade Studios then threaten Daniel Mandelbaum for using the trademark etc. But of course that might lead to him operating under different names. Better to keep him where he can be monitored.
Seems definite that he has indeed ditched resin forge and BCS (though that is still open). Which means that it is indeed very much time to keep a weather eye on the horizon.
Mandelbaum is still at it, still trying to sell stolen goods or selling items he doesn't have... tell your friends guys.
Also he is hiding and apparently only doing business through Facebook PMs, attempting to hide his presence. But, still desperate enough to solicit anyone who posted anything in him threads to sell them titans. This is a scam beyond his usual scope, selling things that don't exist, or are not what he posted images of. Either way, do not buy from this guy whatever you do.
Wait, LOL, you are playing him for 'bullgak' info?
This is the info he is giving clients. If it is bullgak it is because he is full of it.
300 bucks for a resin cast titan, all 4 weapons, shipped for 13 dollars. That just makes tons of sense too. As in it makes none, even if you had the files Daniel, and you don't, and even if they weren't stolen, which they would be, there is no way that much Resin costs you so much less than 300 bucks that it would be any kind of worth it. Resin is very expensive stuff. And you are a gak caster on top of it.
Nope, a scam within a scam, hidden behind a scam.
What a joke....
Automatically Appended Next Post: PS I knew you were working on titan bits... so bloody predictable at this point...
Care to share the whole convo? It's a little hard to figure out what happened just from his last replies.
Also, I wonder how long it'll be until the gak hits the fan and the people that ordered Titans from him realize that they aren't ever going to be getting anything?
He admits he is selling stolen IP in his first post up there, then gives a price and turnaround time for them after that. He knows that nothing about what he is doing is legal.
He solicited Doc there (and others) for posting on his threads in even a vaguely friendly manner and is sniffing around for cash.
Seems pretty clear to me what is going on. I certainly hope no one reports him to GW legal again, since it is right there in black and white he is willfully stealing from them. And the original creator of the files, since they were stolen from him and were only for his personal use. Or he doesn't have anything, and is selling fiction for cash. Or, he is making his own hastily slapped together kit desperately trying to sell them and pass them off as the original custom warhound, and hoping no one will notice.
Huh... either supply dropped or demand went up (or DM is up a creek ) when I was talking to him about it originally it was 270 per titan or 700 for all 3. And that was under the Alan Welson name.
Dan, Danny-boy, just stop scamming people dude, it's sad, it really is.
He says 3 weeks for labor, 5 days to ship. Doesn't that put it very close to paypals dispute limit? Nice way to make sure you don't get disputes opened against you.
I've already sent it back to the GW Legal guys from multiple emails with the screen caps showing he is still selling them.
Hopefully they bust him this time. It's pathetic that he thinks he can blatantly violate the IP without consequences within the US.
If the Chapterhouse lawsuit has taught us anything is that GW is a legal powerhouse who will still win a lawsuit even when they lose on some points.
Loki: As long as they call Paypal the 45 day limit doesn't matter. All it takes is a 10 minute phone call regardless of time, and Paypal will issue a refund from the sellers account. If there are no funds in the account, Paypal will still withdraw the funds and the seller is in debt to paypal.
Had someone pull a scam on me a few years ago when I sold my Macbook on eBay. The buyer lied and said I never shipped it and Paypal removed the funds until I furnished proof of shipping and signature confirmation on the package.
Unless they changed it since the last time I used it or there is another option I'm not aware of, the usps flat rates only apply to donestic, not international.
Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: Care to share the whole convo? It's a little hard to figure out what happened just from his last replies.
Also, I wonder how long it'll be until the gak hits the fan and the people that ordered Titans from him realize that they aren't ever going to be getting anything?
~Tim?
rest of the convo is available if you want here, nothing stellar just wanted to see what he would slip up with. Sent a hello around September time saying "hey all the best" and he suddenly got back to me Tuesday.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: I've already sent it back to the GW Legal guys from multiple emails with the screen caps showing he is still selling them.
Hopefully they bust him this time. It's pathetic that he thinks he can blatantly violate the IP without consequences within the US.
Did he though? He didn't create the Titan, some other guy did. Which means that the other guy may be the one guilty of IP infringement. DM is almost certainly guilty of fraud (and definitely guilty of attempted fraud).
I'm not saying that it shouldn't have been done, but trying to involve GW may have unintended consequences.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: I've already sent it back to the GW Legal guys from multiple emails with the screen caps showing he is still selling them.
Hopefully they bust him this time. It's pathetic that he thinks he can blatantly violate the IP without consequences within the US.
Did he though? He didn't create the Titan, some other guy did. Which means that the other guy may be the one guilty of IP infringement. DM is almost certainly guilty of fraud (and definitely guilty of attempted fraud).
I'm not saying that it shouldn't have been done, but trying to involve GW may have unintended consequences.
The original creating party of the titan mentioned in the opening post that Daniel was ripping off/copying/had stolen documents of was made for personal use only. The creator never went into production nor retail and thus isn't infringing on GW's copyright in the least. Heck GW openly encouraged kit bashing and custom building of models in their games so they'd not even want to take any legal action. They'd only take legal action if the person actually put into production and went commercial.
That said the Chapterhouse situation proves that the whole area of infringement on that level is a very sticky area of law.
Honestly I doubt Daniel has a titan - he might be able to kit bash something, but I doubt he'd cast one up. It's likely he hoped that the original interest in the titan would have sparked a wave of eager fans to pre-order with him; hoping to get and secure the money before the scam got caught out or brought into the light. That it was caught so early basically meant he had nothing to even try and recover with - he might be trying to kit-bash something together in the background to restore some faith; but at the present I suspect most of his "customers" are just people egging him on to incriminate himself further or just to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
It was a fast move to get quick cash; just like bringing Resin Forge back for Games Day was - this might show that Daniel really is in some financial difficulties and is getting really despirate for income - however working anything out about him is often impossible; the guy has layers of lies built over yet more lies.
His name is Daniel, not David. And it's not very easy to kitbash a Titan, let alone a bigger number of them.
If he really wanted to bait potential customers he should have had actual photo material of his own, like that he was clearly setting himself up for trouble. I mean come on, how long do DIY Titan pics stay undiscovered if they are posted in forums and such?
So yeah, I'd agree on the "quick cash", not forgetting that from the very beginning Daniel was pressuring people for a quick buy by claiming "limited" and "short window of opportunity".
Who cares if he is having financial trouble. It's not our problem. Period. It has absolutely zero bearing on his activities in relation to the community, and mitigates nothing. That is not meant to be read as aggressive towards you Overread btw, just a statement of what I personally interpret to be objective fact, I don't like even entertaining that his personal situation is in any way shape or form relevant. He likes to do that, we should not allow him to muddy a crystal clear situation.
Daniel is desperate though. He has 700 likes and is looking to sell to anyone he can find even remotely connected, just people making random single comments. Does that sound like he actually has 700 likes to you? Does the fact he is hiding it, admitted GW legal had a problem with it and was doing it anyways indicate the situation? It sure does.
We've no reason to believe in his financial problems and they are not our concern. If his online behaviour and dishonesty carry over into real life though it's perhaps wouldn't be a surprise if he has employment issues. It's very much a bed of his own making.
-Loki- wrote: He says 3 weeks for labor, 5 days to ship. Doesn't that put it very close to paypals dispute limit? Nice way to make sure you don't get disputes opened against you.
Far as I know, Paypal's dispute limit is 45 days, so 26 days is more like half their limit.
Of course, adding a week here due to "delays" followed by a week of "oh noes, a family emergency, it'll be right out!" followed by a few days of "...", yeah, it's a good portion of the dispute period eaten up.
Edit: though as noted above, sometimes they're less absolute on it than others. I'm sure we've all heard enough Paypal horror stories to generally aim within that timeframe at least.
Hmm not sure where that David came from - it just slipped in right in the middle - edited my post to avoid confusion.
MajorTom - no offence taken I do very much agree that he does muddy the water with lies and sob stories and that this could just be his latest series of lies to try and curry favour with the community - indeed such fits ideally with his profile of past behaviour. Sob stories and confusion are his tools of trade along with aliases and false promises.
At this rate though his refusal to give up suggests to me that if we ever do lose him from the wargaming community chances are he'll resurface in another niche community (wouldn't surprise me if he's already and in the past been active in other communities).
Inquisitor S. wrote: Also this from Facebook: Alan Welson 3 hr ago (account inactive) Could be a suspension or deletion. Or not.
I have him on my Friends list and also Private messages.... I will confirm the account is inactive. I WILL say that other friends who have deleted accounts the profile picture was not able to be seen, and Alan still has one SO I am inclined to think its not his doing that made it inactive.
Daniel Charlie Frank and MINI Conversions are still active, But I have not heard anything from anyone in a while. Last I heard was about a week ago and was Daniel calling me and left a Message, but Admittedly Im still trying to find out how to check my Voicemail. My Smartphone is too smart for me I suppose.
Inquisitor S. wrote: Also this from Facebook:
Alan Welson 3 hr ago (account inactive)
Could be a suspension or deletion. Or not.
I have him on my Friends list and also Private messages.... I will confirm the account is inactive. I WILL say that other friends who have deleted accounts the profile picture was not able to be seen, and Alan still has one SO I am inclined to think its not his doing that made it inactive.
Daniel Charlie Frank and MINI Conversions are still active, But I have not heard anything from anyone in a while. Last I heard was about a week ago and was Daniel calling me and left a Message, but Admittedly Im still trying to find out how to check my Voicemail. My Smartphone is too smart for me I suppose.
Assuming they don't work different from the UK (and I'm fairly sure they don't) press and hold the 1 key from within the phone app to call voicemail, if it is network branded or has been properly configured.
If this doesn't work, you'll probably get a message asking you to input the voicemail #, a simple google of "(your network provider) voicemail number" will get it for you.
Assuming they don't work different from the UK (and I'm fairly sure they don't) press and hold the 1 key from within the phone app to call voicemail, if it is network branded or has been properly configured.
If this doesn't work, you'll probably get a message asking you to input the voicemail #, a simple google of "(your network provider) voicemail number" will get it for you.
Its asking me for my Pin #..... I dont remember having a pin #..... but Im going to my provider tomm to get sorted.... I have like 4 messages... LOL hope they were not important really.
Assuming they don't work different from the UK (and I'm fairly sure they don't) press and hold the 1 key from within the phone app to call voicemail, if it is network branded or has been properly configured.
If this doesn't work, you'll probably get a message asking you to input the voicemail #, a simple google of "(your network provider) voicemail number" will get it for you.
Its asking me for my Pin #..... I dont remember having a pin #..... but Im going to my provider tomm to get sorted.... I have like 4 messages... LOL hope they were not important really.
Try 1234. If it's never been set up, they tend to keep it simple.
Have you found anything in your research about Daniel to help you understand our position(members of the community, NOT DAKKA!) on Daniel?
I'd love to hear how you feel your discussions with Daniel went?
Have you found anything in your research about Daniel to help you understand our position(members of the community, NOT DAKKA!) on Daniel?
I'd love to hear how you feel your discussions with Daniel went?
My discussions With Daniel...... Well He never said he was a scammer (obviously) but seems to be involved with a lot of deals that went bad and DEF has a Bad PR rep and campaign going on. While my PERSONAL opinion of him is Personal, He Seems to have points and counterpoints to everything that is said about him. Its alot to digest and Very hard to see who or what is Truth, Jaded truth, and outright lies. BUT it seems I Am Saved from making Judgement for or against. Daniel informed me Via Facebook a short time after he called and said
Daniel wrote:ive deleted the RF page
and the website
so im done
thanks for the help tommy
bye my friend.
And that he was done in the Hobby and would do no more with it.
NOW From what I see and hear he has done this several times before i the past and there is not real reason to trust this statement as "Gospel"... BUT I myself have Said Im done doing something and have not done it. NOW for my Judgement, I will not publicly denounce anyone unless I am actually involved or 100% sure of my accusations and on this I am not 100%. BUT with my Past dealings of Daniel being Flighty (I was NEVER SCAMMED), Multiple accusations with Lack of Evidence to disprove, and mainly Testimony from trusted Associates I should say "Caveat Emptor" As you run the risk of possibly either being very VERY late receiving product Or possibly not receiving orders at all (from testimony and NOT proven).
I DO support a Good trader system and Reputation system and If I were new to the game and looked at rep and feedback I would request him to Ship First in a trade. Without being crystal clear and making accusations myself I will reiterate "Caveat Emptor"....
wouldn't surprise me if he's already and in the past been active in other communities
What other communities?
Any other web based community that has wargaming followings? I frequent a board that has quite a sizeable following for many tabletop games, and most don't come here or any other large 40k websites like warseer. Wargaming communites on websites can be very insular. I frequent an Australian based board where the Resin Forge warning was posted and most people thought it was just Dakka being the trouble makers, not knowing the history.
You can't think of Dakka as 'the wargaming community' just as you can't think of GW as 'the wargaming hobby'. It may be the biggest, but it's not the only one.
Have you found anything in your research about Daniel to help you understand our position(members of the community, NOT DAKKA!) on Daniel?
I'd love to hear how you feel your discussions with Daniel went?
My discussions With Daniel...... Well He never said he was a scammer (obviously) but seems to be involved with a lot of deals that went bad and DEF has a Bad PR rep and campaign going on. While my PERSONAL opinion of him is Personal, He Seems to have points and counterpoints to everything that is said about him. Its alot to digest and Very hard to see who or what is Truth, Jaded truth, and outright lies. BUT it seems I Am Saved from making Judgement for or against. Daniel informed me Via Facebook a short time after he called and said
Daniel wrote:ive deleted the RF page
and the website
so im done
thanks for the help tommy
bye my friend.
And that he was done in the Hobby and would do no more with it.
NOW From what I see and hear he has done this several times before i the past and there is not real reason to trust this statement as "Gospel"... BUT I myself have Said Im done doing something and have not done it. NOW for my Judgement, I will not publicly denounce anyone unless I am actually involved or 100% sure of my accusations and on this I am not 100%. BUT with my Past dealings of Daniel being Flighty (I was NEVER SCAMMED), Multiple accusations with Lack of Evidence to disprove, and mainly Testimony from trusted Associates I should say "Caveat Emptor" As you run the risk of possibly either being very VERY late receiving product Or possibly not receiving orders at all (from testimony and NOT proven).
I DO support a Good trader system and Reputation system and If I were new to the game and looked at rep and feedback I would request him to Ship First in a trade. Without being crystal clear and making accusations myself I will reiterate "Caveat Emptor"....
Too late MJ. I'm in the "I was already screwed by Daniel" camp. I'm safe from ever having any further business with his sorry ass.
I've gone ahead and told the people I know in the hobby about this guy and his scams, I'd suggest others do the same. Spread enough word and he will simply run out of "clients". Hopefully that'll be an end to it, though I get the feeling it won't.
You don't think this is going to slow us down for even some seconds Daniel, do you? Your deeds are more widespread over the internet than curses about Matt Ward *lol*
It doesn't. FB just doesn't actually check. That's how Daniel always tries to intimidate us. To no avail
But go on Facebook, protect scammers, we have so many channels you can never block Daniel
So I would suggest that everybody can go and report BCS and the Mandelbaum accounts, because those one ACTUALLY DO violate Facebook standards. How many users we have again at the disposal?
So I would suggest that everybody can go and report BCS and the Mandelbaum accounts, because those one ACTUALLY DO violate Facebook standards. How many users we have again at the disposal?
Well, the community (NOT just Dakka, Daniel) has enough people to do it I think. I've dropped a report on BCS anyhow. Old news or not, Daniel's name or aliuses don't appear on the about section of the page anywhere - in fact, no names do as far as I can see.
And I may have reposted to Twitter.....
Interestingly, the @resinforgestore twitter account is still up, but it's moved to 'tweets protected' in the last few days.
If he has moved to Twitter DMs, he's not doing much. He's only following 19 with 10 followers - so that's ten he can DM. Bit of a climb down from the thousands on FB...
Art Steventon wrote: If he has moved to Twitter DMs, he's not doing much. He's only following 19 with 10 followers - so that's ten he can DM. Bit of a climb down from the thousands on FB...
That's assuming its facebook thousands. He had only mentioned selling 4, even if he hadn't, seems more likely he would focus his efforts on select few for the money. Someone explained it better before with how the project "updates" would only go up at weirdly specific times for the target peoples benefit.
I seem to remember that his twitter acc tweets were aleady protected since a while. But I don't know if we are talking about the same twitter account actually.
If some idiot "buys" a "Titan" from "Resin Forge" or "Black Crusade Studios" after the amount of warnings given, then DakkaDakka users legitimately can blame the victim.
Kilkrazy wrote: If some idiot "buys" a "Titan" from "Resin Forge" or "Black Crusade Studios" after the amount of warnings given, then DakkaDakka users legitimately can blame the victim.
Alternatively, we blame DM because the victim may still have not seen all these warnings? Not everyone gravitates towards the internet 24/7 looking for these rumors and lurks in the communities?
Kilkrazy wrote: If some idiot "buys" a "Titan" from "Resin Forge" or "Black Crusade Studios" after the amount of warnings given, then DakkaDakka users legitimately can blame the victim.
I'd agree with that statement if it was applied to anyone from DakkaDakka making that purchase. Sadly though the WWW is far too vast for our warnings to reach it all.
No, blame has to go with Daniel entirely, IMHO.
Yup. Let's not play blame the victim here. It would be foolish on our part to believe the community was universally aware of this. There will always be someone who hasn't heard. Even if we have reached a majority one would hope.
As always, only one person is responsible, Daniel Mandelbaum.
Nope, just that he is active via Facebook PMs and on twitter. Completely avoiding being accountable, lying about who he is and what he is selling... the usual...
If Mandelbaum is only selling via what in effect are private messages, I doubt we will hear anything about his activities until someone who got stiffed joins DakkaDakka and tells their story.
I've gotta ask, how is it this guy isn't a-in jail or [MOD EDIT - Don't make 'jokes' like this. Alpharius] - How many times does this donkey-cave have to contribute to the death of the hobby before someone does something to stop him?
Note: I don't know if anyone's taken legal action against the guy and from the pages I've read here and other DM posts, this guy is pretty slippery.
If Mandelbaum is only selling via what in effect are private messages, I doubt we will hear anything about his activities until someone who got stiffed joins DakkaDakka and tells their story.
1) the amount of business (and exposure) you can conduct (achieve) via PM is in any case much lower than that a "webshop" or "public" page.
2.) all PMs are archived and thus will provide nice proof
3.) everybody who spends a big amount of cash without a basic research is kind of unsuitable to visit the internet to start with.
Frankenberry wrote: I've gotta ask, how is it this guy isn't a-in jail or [MOD EDIT - Don't make 'jokes' like this. Alpharius]? How many times does this donkey-cave have to contribute to the death of the hobby before someone does something to stop him?
Note: I don't know if anyone's taken legal action against the guy and from the pages I've read here and other DM posts, this guy is pretty slippery.
The basics are this:
Daniel has scammed lots of people for 'small amounts' of money. 200 from 1 person, 150 from someone else, those sorts of things. Potatoes too small for a local police department to really do anything about it. There becomes a lot of time, hassle, and personal money just to put this guy's nuts to the fire. Until he scams the wrong person for the right amount of money the best we can do is simply alert people to his actions and keep watch.
Frankenberry wrote: I've gotta ask, how is it this guy isn't a-in jail or [MOD EDIT - Don't make 'jokes' like this. Alpharius]? How many times does this donkey-cave have to contribute to the death of the hobby before someone does something to stop him?
Note: I don't know if anyone's taken legal action against the guy and from the pages I've read here and other DM posts, this guy is pretty slippery.
The basics are this:
Daniel has scammed lots of people for 'small amounts' of money. 200 from 1 person, 150 from someone else, those sorts of things. Potatoes too small for a local police department to really do anything about it. There becomes a lot of time, hassle, and personal money just to put this guy's nuts to the fire. Until he scams the wrong person for the right amount of money the best we can do is simply alert people to his actions and keep watch.
In addition to this the market itself is very niche to the point where the police just don't have any general attention for it. Miniatures and wargames are a popular, but still niche hobby market and for the most part its fairly above board and what crimes do take place are smaller scale. So most police forces just don't have much awareness nor need to clamp down on the crimes in this market.
It's just not big enough crime nor the right kind to get enough attention.
To make matters more complicated the market itself is spread out vastly through different countries which makes any legal action a lot harder to organise and get into effect. Even just basic coordination of the various groups is no small feat and when coupled with the potential personal legal costs in time and money most people just don't consider the lost money worth enough to take that plunge.
It's a sad state of affairs - reporting it to the community and generally keeping a sensible watch on the market and improving awareness of suspect and proven scam groups/individuals is about all that can be done at this point in time.
Frankenberry wrote: I've gotta ask, how is it this guy isn't a-in jail or [MOD EDIT - Don't make 'jokes' like this. Alpharius]? How many times does this donkey-cave have to contribute to the death of the hobby before someone does something to stop him?
Note: I don't know if anyone's taken legal action against the guy and from the pages I've read here and other DM posts, this guy is pretty slippery.
The basics are this:
Daniel has scammed lots of people for 'small amounts' of money. 200 from 1 person, 150 from someone else, those sorts of things. Potatoes too small for a local police department to really do anything about it. There becomes a lot of time, hassle, and personal money just to put this guy's nuts to the fire. Until he scams the wrong person for the right amount of money the best we can do is simply alert people to his actions and keep watch.
In addition to this the market itself is very niche to the point where the police just don't have any general attention for it. Miniatures and wargames are a popular, but still niche hobby market and for the most part its fairly above board and what crimes do take place are smaller scale. So most police forces just don't have much awareness nor need to clamp down on the crimes in this market.
It's just not big enough crime nor the right kind to get enough attention.
To make matters more complicated the market itself is spread out vastly through different countries which makes any legal action a lot harder to organise and get into effect. Even just basic coordination of the various groups is no small feat and when coupled with the potential personal legal costs in time and money most people just don't consider the lost money worth enough to take that plunge.
It's a sad state of affairs - reporting it to the community and generally keeping a sensible watch on the market and improving awareness of suspect and proven scam groups/individuals is about all that can be done at this point in time.
I'll be honest, i don't buy the niche market thing beinr repeated over and over again as an excuse for a lack of police involvement. I've seen tickets handed out and kids arrested for the same kind of trash at school. Narcotics and prostitution are also niche markets, and the police are all over that, and the cross-border coooperation that goes on there is pretty strong. It just comes down to social stigma and social impact. At the end of the day, what really stops anything from happening here is the fact that it's all toys, that everyone insists on under-valuing the moment the store relinquishes ownership to buyer (so, really, yelling at the police that he stole $200 worth of stuff when you really valued it at $60 or less in the trade and for the sake of not having to pay tax when shipping the item or lord-knows-what...) The police are really only going to see the $60 claim. You'd have a better chance pursuing this on a basis of a scam to steal personally identifying information (credit cards, addresses, names..... blah) but then that's probably even weaker than trying to just hunt him down and harpoon him for theft. Also possible you could try drowning him in a class-action law-suit. honestly, i think that's been mentioned too, and that won't fly either. If the community is that desparate to catch him, well, somebody is going to have to be willing to put their stuff up as bait, which, probably won't happen, and likely won't result in anything either.
But then to be honest, this is also pretty much what any professional college will do. Take complaints from the community, and generally investigate itself internally to make sure everyone is nice and proper, and there's always the hacks that manage to feed off the periphery while the business/industry tries to do its best to keep clean... business as usual....
People could always file civil suits against him. Each individual person file an individual civil suit. In small claims court, the suit would only cost about $150, and that amount would be added to the amount of the judgment.
It would require the person who wants to sue to travel to DM's area for the court hearing, because typically small claims cases are heard in the county where the defendant lives. That's probably the biggest obstacle, but I think the travel expense or the cost of hiring an attorney to represent you can be added to the costs of the suit, too.
Collection would be the hardest part, but once you have a judgment, if you're feeling aggressive, you can make a person's life pretty difficult. You can file liens that appear on the person's credit report and public records, so if they ever try to purchase a home before clearing the lien, it will cause them problems. You can periodically file for interrogatories with the courts that force the defendant to reveal all of their assets, including bank account information and any regular job they hold, under the penalty of perjury. If you have bank account or job information, you can file garnishments. My favorite thing is filing a Writ of Fieri Facias. This pretty much places a lien on any property the defendant holds. With it, you can go with the FiFa sheriff to the person's residence (or workplace if self employed) and just start taking any non-essential household items (down to the cash in the defendant's pockets) to hold for auction to try to defray your costs. Actioning on a FiFa lien is pretty much a pain in the ass, and it's expensive because the goods have to be held for at least 30 days to be advertised for the auction, and the plaintiff has to pay for the storage, but those expenses are also added to the amount the defendant owes.
So, if someone, or some group of people, decided they wanted to take action in small claims, they could make DM's life pretty difficult for a while, especially if multiple people filed suit at the same time.
Though well intentioned obviously this has all been covered dozens of times already... Would prefer not to go off on a can't believe he's not in jail / try this tangent.
We don't need ways to do it, just victims willing to act and deal with the obstacles, time and effort involved in bringing him down finally. Easier said than done though.
Not his usual MO in terms of the amount of product he is offering, but definitely a fishy site in terms of the gaping holes in their history and information. Another about us that says nothing at all...
Not sure yet, but def worth keeping an eye on.
SInce he reads each and every post in this thread, don't forget to say 'Hi Daniel!'. If this is or isn't you don't worry we'll find you new venture soon enough!
Just had a look at that page,and it looks like the "owner" has finerly go tround to removing all the negative comments,took him long enough, Unlike DM,who would remove comments as soon as they appeared..
Also im sure it was pointed out elsewhere that DM has no experiance with casting.
So unless he has partnered up with a re-caster (and i dont think he would ever partner up with anyone,tbh), i dont think hes behind Not Failcast.
Whether it's him or someone else, it's still a scam - they're offering FW at the same price in dollars instead of pounds, which is a large discount (which FW doesn't do).
MajorTom11 wrote: Yup... We can't tell people to be vigilant and then tell them not to talk about it. There is nothing conclusive either way, other than this is fishy.
If the conversation needs to stop please leave that to a moderator to decide.
I didn't see anyone trying to stop anything, just expressing an opinion on the matter.
I've seen the "not failcast" guy's stuff on Feebay for awhile. I think anyone getting his items then clearly didn't read his feedback.
I think this is a scam, but not one involving Daniel. We should be vigilant. And focused.
fynn wrote: (and i dont think he would ever partner up with anyone,tbh)
He has teamed up with people in the past. I know the not-Knight Paladins he designed and sold as RedStarOne were cast by someone else. IIRC, you paid him and they were cast and sent out by the caster. That said, I believe all those were actually received by their purchasers.
He definitely partners or attempts to regularly. He has a long list of 'collaborators'. Usually the ones you hear about are the fictional characters, and the real people tend to stay quiet. Until they find out what they were party to then they get pretty pissed.
Anyways, there are many collaborators, both real and fake along Daniel Mandelbaum's trajectory of shame.
Daniel is Andrei Chikatilo, and MT is Viktor Burakov .... if you have never been witness to one of the greatest movies ever made you should look into "Citizen X" ... I cannot recommend it enough.
OT: I have a question about this Danny boy ... I have seen some of his work and it looks quite good, why would he not just stay legit as he could make some fairly decent money at it?
Would the market forgive him of his transgressions? Has he gone too far to be redeemed?
I don't htink he has gone too far... but he spoils it for himself.
Resin Forge, up until the craziness started, gave every appearance of being intended to be a more or less legitimate business. Yes, there was the claims of going to the Forgeworld Open Day which appear to have been bogus, but that's ultimately just marketing spin. Customers from that particular incarnation of the Mandlebondsley show seems to have got what they paid for.
The problem for Daniel is that once people realise who he is, they start to talk to others about it... and at that point, Daniel just loses the plot.
If he took the advice that was given to him (go legit, put your actual, real name on the box, and be upfront about who you are, what you have done, and what you are now trying to do) and made a serious go of it, he could eventually regain some trust through consistent delivery.
But along the way, there would be an absolute gakstorm, because until he has earned that trust, people are going to assume that he is still going to pull the same nonsense as before. And so he would need to sit through whatever gets thown at him, for however long it continues, accept that it is no more than he has earned for himself through his past actions, and just wait for it to pass.
And from what we've seen previously, I doubt he could do that.
Not aware of the CMoN situation but Mierce was different, no less frustrating for those that lost money but scamming =/= administration. They both had total arsehats at the helm but the situation are very different.
Here's another simile for you though, Iceland (UK frozen food store) sold more burgers after the Horsemeat scandal than in any of the 40 years previously; Sorry to flog a dead horse but people will always by if the price is right. Scammers and Businessmen with a very poor reputation alike both know and exploit this.
As we know; If its too good to be true it probably is.
One of the founders of CMON was the owner of the now-long-defunct New Wave Games, who had a long history of taking people's money and not supplying goods. There was some concern when CMON first set up their own webstore as a result, but they were gradually accepted when everybody seemed to get what they were paying for...
It is a shame that we get to stroke Daniel's ego with every post.
This is just a person lacking in creativity to do anything different and too lazy to make the money by actual effort.
He has poor communication skills and still gets upset with every little bit of resistance he faces where we do not hand our money over to him (rather amusing actually).
But he still feels so clever when he pulls a fast one and sucks in another "customer". I am afraid that as long as he gets a sale here or there he will be more than happy to operate forever for the rush of the game.
All it will take is the wrong person not getting their money's worth and it could get ugly for him.
So guys, keep up the good work and be a resource for finding this guy. We can then wait for a disgruntled customer to have his lawyer speak to him.
There were people who complained about RF, though I realize it is easy to miss.
This guy is beyond redemption boys, pure and simple. At least in my book, you don't get to willfully scam and steal and abuse your customers for upwards of a decade under more than 20 aliases and then get a gold star for barely ripping anyone off for 3 months tops all the while hiding your identity and pretending to be someone else.
Let's also not forget issuing death-threats, outright pure scam trying to sell the warhound titan (and still trying to do so), trying to get someone fired, harrasing others at all hours of the night, using fake cancer and baby deaths as excuses etc etc etc etc.
MajorTom11 wrote: There were people who complained about RF, though I realize it is easy to miss.
This guy is beyond redemption boys, pure and simple. At least in my book, you don't get to willfully scam and steal and abuse your customers for upwards of a decade under more than 20 aliases and then get a gold star for barely ripping anyone off for 3 months tops all the while hiding your identity and pretending to be someone else.
Let's also not forget issuing death-threats, outright pure scam trying to sell the warhound titan (and still trying to do so), trying to get someone fired, harrasing others at all hours of the night, using fake cancer and baby deaths as excuses etc etc etc etc.
Come on.
Agreed, there is no redemption for him at this point. Now had he come out at Resin Forge the first time said My name is Daniel and this is my business info, maybe.
It's funny that this thread sparked back up as I'll be meeting up with Munkey-Joe this weekend and a few other people who know or monitor DM. Should make for some interesting conversations!
As for Fulgrim, my guess is that anyone who ordered had their money refunded. I ordered one but when it broke they were a scam I had a refund issued, figured if they ever got the stock I'd buy it then rather than risk is not showing up.
I really wonder with all these incidences of money being refunded for something that could not be provided: when would a person decide to take the money and run?
Is there a certain threshold or is it as long as his association has not been identified?
It is these contradicting actions that I think has prevented serious legal action: it is about the only thing that is not predictable.
I disagree, it is actually quite predictable generally. He gives 'good service' up until some critical point where he either has enough cash or loses control of whatever tenuous supply chain he has, then he tries to control/badger/spin the situation in the hopes of getting away with it without having to set up another business or alias, then he disappears. The fact that he is not getting away with much the past year or 2 is nothing to do with him being on the up and up, but rather the speed and accuracy with which he has been discovered and outed.
Let's not attribute positive connotations to what is simply a lack of negative opportunity compared to the past.
It isn't 100% clear whether Mandelbaum always sets out to scam people, or whether he simply has such bad business skills that whatever company he starts up slides down the pan after a few months.
The result is the same for customers, though. Orders stop being fulfilled, and complainants are met with an increasingly dubious set of excuses.
However the Resin Forge operation was discovered in about four months, when it was just entering the collapse phase, and it was abandoned before things could go much farther. Black Crusade Studios was discovered and abandoned in about a month and barely got started.
Kilkrazy I think we could agree that it could be bad business sense that crashes the companies if he ran them under his own name each time - then we could say "hey maybe the guy is just that bad at cash flow and such" (and there are many who are).
Thing is each time he sets one up, even back to his original accounts, he's always used an alias; sometimes multiple ones. That initial deception I think clearly shows that he's not here to make an honest income. I seem to recall that it was a year or two before his real name was even known (I think).
Add that to his general aggressive tone toward customers and the public whenever he is caught or challenged and the lie after lie about things and it all really adds up to deceptive if not criminal intent.
For me, the debate can be put aside right now, let us not forget the 100% proven things this guy has done that are in no way related to failure to follow through, but are related to malicious intent from step 1.
1. The titan he stole images of and claimed to have but never did was never going to be delivered, so there was no service or internal failure responsible, selling that item was from step one fraud and theft. No way to spin that one.
2. Recasting as we know he has done in the past, failure to pay suppliers are all things on his end that are wrong from the outset, not failures to follow through, things he knew were illegal from the get-go.
3. Death threats, not your typical professional customer service.
4. The worst lies, baby dying, cancer etc are all completely unnecessary and gross abuses of trust that are not necessary to dealing with business failure. Since he made them up with the intention of getting away with delivering or paying his debts explicitly (as they are 100% fiction), that is a scam in and of itself.
5. Harassment using customer info
All those things have nothing to do with failed good intentions, they are explicitly criminal and brought to the table out of his preference, not necessity.
If all he ever did was re-sell FW bits and have the occasional spot of trouble, this thread wouldn't exist! lol
ExiledMiniatures wrote: It's funny that this thread sparked back up as I'll be meeting up with Munkey-Joe this weekend and a few other people who know or monitor DM. Should make for some interesting conversations!
I wondered why I received a call at 3:30 Am from Daniel the morning I was driving 18 hours to my grandfathers funeral asking about some conference call and lawyers stuff. I dont really remember the entirety of the message right off hand but I saved it in my voice message list till I can save it permanent. Not that I MIND calls or even 3AM calls But it was poor timing and I had a long drive I was preparing for. Im only saving it permanent as it was discussing lawyers and such and I want to save it incase something happens as right now Im so busy Im sure I will forget something.....
As for the Meeting, I was in the Dallas area burying my Grandfather (as I said) and had a couple of hours where I could spare some time to meet my Dallas area friends. I met up with AJ, as well as several other friends and we had a Great time discussing miniatures and Nerdom over a FANTASTIC dinner prepared by a friend. Daniel Mandelbaum was not discussed as Really we had more important things to discuss such as how everyone has been in the past year since I missed GenCon and failed to meet up with them, as well as receiving condolences from my friends about my Family. And I FINALLY got to see some of a friends collection of miniatures he likes to brag about..... And cannot call him a liar about how much stuff he has..... so as you can see the 6-7 hours I spent visiting friends instead of sleep was actually very action packed and had no time to discuss internet happening ESP something like this.
While I was happy to meet AJ in person and see my other friends it saddens me now that By visiting some of my close friends and meeting a new friend for the first time I get calls about having a conference call with lawyers present. Im not going to play "whos a better friend" or some nonsense with anyone, as its not what I do. Im sorry I did not have time to meet Daniel in person but when I return to Dallas in a couple of Months I may make arrangements to meet face to face with him if he is willing as I will have more time and not be bogged down with business. I also would like to hang out with AJ and my other friends again as I really thing hes a good guy. I will meet up with anyone face to face if they are wanting and if Im at a convention or in another town feel free to hit me up and make a plan to meet!! im not a shy person and love to meet people and talk shop!!
munkey joe wrote: Im not going to play "whos a better friend" or some nonsense with anyone
Condolences on the passing, but this got my attention. Apologies if i'm interpreting wrong here, but do you mean to say DM is acting the overly attached girlfriend, complaining that your meeting people and acting buddy buddy after everything (In the tone of the call or whatever I mean)? I know 3am calls from him isn't anything new, but was just curious if this was a deliberate use of the phrase or not?
doc1234 wrote: Condolences on the passing, but this got my attention. Apologies if i'm interpreting wrong here, but do you mean to say DM is acting the overly attached girlfriend, complaining that your meeting people and acting buddy buddy after everything (In the tone of the call or whatever I mean)? I know 3am calls from him isn't anything new, but was just curious if this was a deliberate use of the phrase or not?
I may have misheard the message (I have only listened to it once and it was a few days ago) but I took that he thought the meeting was a gathering to discuss him. it was not, as it was a gathering set up by me to meet people I only see once a year at gencon and failed to meet with this year due to me not going. It seemed to me he was thinking we were gathering to maybe discuss him and his actions or some sort and he did request to have a conference call with the friends I met with (only 2-3 of them even know who he is or anything about him) with his lawyer. I did not call him nor arrange a conference call because he was not the reason I was meeting them and my meeting had nothing to do with him. It is coincidence that I was meeting AJ this trip and oddly the thread was revived about the same time. So really AJ is the only one who knows whats going on here AND that I was meeting with ANYONE in Dallas and I assume Daniel read I was meeting AJ from here and assumed I was going there to discuss him and his company. Couldn't be further from the truth as I had planned to go to Dallas to bury my grandfather MONTHS before he passed and when I met AJ I told him at some point in the future I would make a trip to DFW and when I did I wanted to meet him in person and chit chat. So this meeting was arranged long before I even knew about this thread and honestly Daniel was not discussed at any length if even at all.
It's just funny that he thinks having two of his "contract painters/casters" meeting up to discuss him gets him in a cold sweat enough to invoke lawyers (real or imagined). What could they POSSIBLY learn from each other by comparing notes... [/speculation]
I haven't been on here the last few days and just caught up on this thread and it made me laugh.
Tommy is correct. We did meet up finally! Had a great time, and enjoyed the company of some good friends! One of whom did make an amazing buffalo steak dinner for us!
Tommy, beers are definitely on you next time as long as the visit is under better conditions!
And yes Daniel, Tommy and I had been discussing meeting for some time now. It had nothing to do with you, except that we met online because of your actions.
I'm sure Daniel has conflicted emotions about us. If we aren't paying attention to him, he's not able to feed off that attention(which is pretty obvious he desires, even if under an alias). But if we pay attention to him, then it's harder for him to try and scam people.
Such a dilemma. Poor Daniel and his crazy person problems.
Aerethan wrote: I'm sure Daniel has conflicted emotions about us. If we aren't paying attention to him, he's not able to feed off that attention(which is pretty obvious he desires, even if under an alias). But if we pay attention to him, then it's harder for him to try and scam people.
Such a dilemma. Poor Daniel and his crazy person problems.
#Conartistproblems
Seems like Daniel has been quite for a couple months. Isn't that some sort of record?
Monster Rain wrote: Or perhaps all this attention here has allowed him to scam someone somewhere else with impunity.
Wheels within wheels. How deep does the rabbit hole go?
This is a very real possibilty. With all his scams though, it's only a matter of time before we catch on. BCS was caught in like 3 weeks from the time it showed up on facebook. We're like velociraptors, we're learning...!
The thing is what worked in the early days for him is now working against him.
The niche market that is wargaming and the smaller amounts (relative to other crimes - esp over international boundaries) mean that he's been able to fly under the police radar.
However he's been good enough at it that now more people are aware and looking for the problem. Even if he's quiet for several months now people are much more aware of the potential threat which means any new venture comes under heavier scrutiny.
And because the market is niche and small and because the online world is smaller still its harder to advertise and build a company without more of those who are aware and looking for the threat becoming aware.
Dealing through pms on facebook is likely one of the few ways he can currently trade because it all happens in private without the need for a company face; however he'll find it hard to shift expensive orders and to get more than one or two customers if he's not advertising - especially since he can't go through forums or trading sites like ebay.
Kiwidru wrote: It is also a very real possibility that he is a pathetic dude that lives with his parents.
That also appears to be a home phone, as it is listed for the other inhabitants as well, perhaps try talking to sandra or michael?
If I remember correctly, Michael has protected Daniel in the past, and either covered his actions, or attempted to delay swift paypal based judgement. Michael may not be a crook, but he's defending one and knows about his son's actions.
Kiwidru wrote: It is also a very real possibility that he is a pathetic dude that lives with his parents.
That also appears to be a home phone, as it is listed for the other inhabitants as well, perhaps try talking to sandra or michael?
Ok, we are not going down this road at Dakka.
We will not be posting personal info or engaging in debates about random, uninvolved people calling them up or anything of that nature.
I have no problem exposing his scams and bs. I have no problem naming him. But these are things that happen when he steps into our 'house' or community. I (and I believe in this case I can speak for the rest of the Dakka team as well on the one) do NOT endorse harassment of these people just for the sake of it, or in a punitive or vengeful way. This crosses the line between protecting our community and being harassers ourselves.
I will do everything I can to nail Mandelbaum every time he crawls out from under his rock to try and scam or lie to the members of this community, rest assured. But other than that we, the community, should all be trying to conduct ourselves to a higher standard than he exhibits.
His personal information is readily available to anyone who looks, but we do not post it here as a rule. Thanks for reading -
Why do I feel a need to not trust anything said by someone posting with a number under 200?
I would especially like being pointed in the direction of a "great" re-cast... er, I mean "reseller" of repute...
This confuses me as to who your referring to and what the premise of the comment is. If you could please clarify.
It confuses me also as I have a posting number under 200, as well as Im a caster and seller..... Are you referring to me?? if so what are you needing to know?? Why my posts are so low?? are my castings "great"? Do I resell??? Do I recast?? By being pointed in my direction are you wanting to open a casting commission??
my posts are low because Im new here.
my casting has been called great before, and I use vacuum and pressure just like pro-casters do and I get professional results.
I do sell things, both my own product from casting and from my collection of miniatures.
I do not sell recasts, nor do I normally take recasting commissions.
If you need casting done Im willing to discuss this in a PM as to keep this thread relevant, and no, I do not take recasting commissions as a norm.
if you are not referring to me, im still not sure what youre saying....
Munkey Joe, this thread is not about you and that comment was rather vague, so please don't drag us somewhere we don't need to go . I've already vouched for you, I think we can move on from that particular tangent now.
RiTides wrote: Munkey Joe, this thread is not about you and that comment was rather vague, so please don't drag us somewhere we don't need to go . I've already vouched for you, I think we can move on from that particular tangent now.
I am sure that is NOT Stephakim Hernandez/Little Gamine there, as we all know they have not been together in 10 years, they just run miniatures scams together.
Ah well, Daniel, nice to see you finally.
PlagueLord, I highly suggest you block him and ignore him at every opportunity, he will not get bored. But, at least he has gone to the trouble of confirming this is actually him.
Now we know a face to put to the alias at least...
Automatically Appended Next Post: pslol, I am pretty sure that city image is from one of his recent Aliases, Alan Weslon I believe. And I am pretty sure his lady friend there is the same one from the bird-lady denial RF video looking at the mouth and jawline.
MajorTom11 wrote: I am sure that is NOT Stephakim Hernandez/Little Gamine there, as we all know they have not been together in 10 years, they just run miniatures scams together.
Ah well, Daniel, nice to see you finally.
PlagueLord, I highly suggest you block him and ignore him at every opportunity, he will not get bored. But, at least he has gone to the trouble of confirming this is actually him.
Now we know a face to put to the alias at least...
Automatically Appended Next Post: pslol, I am pretty sure that city image is from one of his recent Aliases, Alan Weslon I believe. And I am pretty sure his lady friend there is the same one from the bird-lady denial RF video looking at the mouth and jawline.
Yeah, I accidentally unblocked him to message him with some common sense, can't re-block for 48 hours, lol. this is gonna get fun, lol.
Edit: I like the latest post on his timeline, and the comment he left on it, "You damn well know who you are. A change in your lives might help but I seriously doubt it." - Daniel Charlie Frank
Yeah, it's not like i'll be able to interact with him before I re-block him, I have to work all weekend, I can only imagine what he'll say once he realizes i'm not responding...lol.
If it smells like DM, looks like DM, it's probably DM...
Actually, i'm kinda proud of myself, I drew out his actual face, lol. all because of my interaction with him 44 days ago, LMAO! Imagine that, lol
I doubt its actually him. Isn't he in the habit of lifting images of miniatures off the internet as passing them off as his own? I don't think the'd have a problem comitting identity theft too, using images of other people to build his fake aliases.
I doubt its actually him. Isn't he in the habit of lifting images of miniatures off the internet as passing them off as his own? I don't think the'd have a problem comitting identity theft too, using images of other people to build his fake aliases.
Yep, I concur. Here, where's that guy who went to Daniel's door to get his stuff? He will be able to confirm if it's him or not.
I doubt its actually him. Isn't he in the habit of lifting images of miniatures off the internet as passing them off as his own? I don't think the'd have a problem comitting identity theft too, using images of other people to build his fake aliases.
Yep, I concur. Here, where's that guy who went to Daniel's door to get his stuff? He will be able to confirm if it's him or not.
Well with the picture that's on that profile atm you can see that it's deffo Kimanie H.
Well with the picture that's on that profile atm you can see that it's deffo Kimanie H.
How? Mandelbaum knows that we knew about sharkfromjawz (see many pages ago) and DCF. So for sure he wouldn't put a pic up there "accidentally". So it must be on purpose. And nothing Mandelbaum does on pupose is to be trusted.
Personally I'd say that blackhaired woman just looks like any random other blackhaired woman. But as said: doesn't matter too much.
Mandelpsycho needs his fix of attention, so comes back, harasses some people left and right. Probably will call some phones tonight or so, for good measure. Then he bathes himself in the "gak storm" he hopes that will cause and spank off to his perceived self-importance. And then that's that. He's done. This is what he has left. *clap clap clap*
Perhaps he's ran out of feths to give about his anonymity?
I agree that we shouldn't take the photos at face value. The bird nonsense is in line with their known interests, and I do agree that the facial structure of the woman in the pics is similar to the laughable video that made us all die a little inside from a few months back.
Perhaps he's ran out of feths to give about his anonymity?
Those are just more fake accounts with random "friends" from such close-by places such as South Africa. Baiting for attention, nothing more. Putting up a pic of an UZI for good measure to look gangsta. Big virtual mouth for a done-in small time crook hiding in his family's basement with some birds and a mask fetishist for company.
My point is, he might not care about hiding anymore. He knows that at this point we will catch on within weeks of any new ventures. His ability to hide his actions has diminished greatly due to the knowledge we've gained in the last 12 months.
My point is, he might not care about hiding anymore. He knows that at this point we will catch on within weeks of any new ventures. His ability to hide his actions has diminished greatly due to the knowledge we've gained in the last 12 months.
Might, might not. In any case he's still hiding as his name is Mandelbaum, not Frank And if he wants to project his face onto the Dallas police department, fine by me. Doesn't change one iota about how he will be watched out for.
P.S.: He's also still harassing people. So really no change I see coming from apic that is him or is not him.
Well with the picture that's on that profile atm you can see that it's deffo Kimanie H.
How? Mandelbaum knows that we knew about sharkfromjawz (see many pages ago) and DCF. So for sure he wouldn't put a pic up there "accidentally". So it must be on purpose. And nothing Mandelbaum does on pupose is to be trusted.
Personally I'd say that blackhaired woman just looks like any random other blackhaired woman. But as said: doesn't matter too much.
Mandelpsycho needs his fix of attention, so comes back, harasses some people left and right. Probably will call some phones tonight or so, for good measure. Then he bathes himself in the "gak storm" he hopes that will cause and spank off to his perceived self-importance. And then that's that. He's done. This is what he has left. *clap clap clap*
Well there's no way to be 100% certain but...
Same jawline, same build, same skin colouring, same hair, same makeup, same glasses and what appears to be the same necklace.
I can't believe I had to watch that video again... man I'm gonna have nightmares tonight.
I wonder if its not worth just locking this thread now until evidence of a new venture actually appears. It might at least end the attention seeking side of things for a bit and give some who are being phone (or other methods) harassed a rest.
He could be purely in it for the attention or he could be showing off that no matter what we know nothing serious ever comes his way by form of punishment/accountability for his actions. So it doesn't matter what we know.
However it is we are most just recycling rumour and theory about him now unless a new venture really takes off (And considering the opening post and title of the thread it would likely be more valuable to start a new thread if a new scam venture is found ).
Intresting, i just done a search on FB for franks,and came up with no result for that name.
So he has either deleted the account, or found a way to hide it from an FB search.
And didnt the franks name pop up once before during the time that RF re-appeared?
I doubt its actually him. Isn't he in the habit of lifting images of miniatures off the internet as passing them off as his own? I don't think the'd have a problem comitting identity theft too, using images of other people to build his fake aliases.
Yep, I concur. Here, where's that guy who went to Daniel's door to get his stuff? He will be able to confirm if it's him or not.
Well with the picture that's on that profile atm you can see that it's deffo Kimanie H.
The "We are definitely not a couple how dare you" Kimanie?
So, get this, he initiates contact with me, then sends me this message? and subsequently blocked me... Good, maybe I get to tell the police that after 44 days of no contact, he decides to harass me?
wasnt ment to scare you. im not a boogie man
fun part is, your right, people post my address all over because its the same address ive been at for 6 years of modeling, right across from a police station
they know it because i gave it on all the return addresses
dont worry, i have your number as well but unlike the hear say, i wont be calling you ever
we have nothing to discuss besides this is my personal account, it makes no sales and has my personal picture on it. I dont have my face nor my address or numbers to be reachers. funny if i owe so many people, why do none call me, or call the police?
why am i the one filing police reports for harassment?
I don't think he realizes the gravity of his situation... And last night he messaged me my own address, trying to scare me I guess?
Can someone PM me how to file stalking charges on him?
