Totally understandable, I can respect that a thousand 'shades of grey' would get particularly tiresome to track in detail and have to constantly correct as new information came to light.
I am a fan of "caveat emptor", and from that perspective it indicates just how poisonous an influence this person has been over the years to receive the 'above and beyond the call of duty' treatment on the matter.
Pretty much. Daniel Mandelbaum in my opinion is the single greatest fraudster in the community in my opinion, and, since he has no intention of going away, that means ongoing vigilance is necessary.
The concern I have is that Daniel will never quit and one of these times will sneak past us and take someone for lots of money. We just have to be prepared and vigilant for the worst. As tom has said it takes a lot of time to monitor him and all of the rumors and complaints about companies and has to be filtered through to sort which ones are valid and Daniel related and which ones aren't.
I'd be willing to look into companies who are scams/recasters but working full time and my own studio would always come first.
If Mandelbaum managed a very large fraud on an individual, it would be the responsibility of the victim to place the case in the hands of the police.
The reason why Mandelbaum is never prosecuted is that the amounts involved are too small in individual cases. A victim who was defrauded of a large amount of money -- IDK how much that would be -- would be of more concern to the authorities.
Kroothawk wrote: So you can't prosecute a professional handbag thief until he makes a big haul over 1000$ ?
That's the thing, you CAN but if a handbag thief stole $100 from you, would it be worth your time spending what would likely end up being thousands more just to take him to court? Yes it'd solve the problem for the community, but pragmatically speaking I doubt anyone would shoulder the bill out of goodwill.
Kroothawk wrote: So you can't prosecute a professional handbag thief until he makes a big haul over 1000$ ?
"You" can't prosecute anyone. The police and director of public prosecutions do that. They make their decisions based on various criteria including the number of complaints, the amount stolen, the quality of evidence, and so on.
Yup. It's not up to us. I told a cop friend about this, asked what would happen up here... he heard toy soldiers and just started laughing and basically was about to change the topic as if that was it. It took me 20 more minutes to give him the full picture of what was going on.
Unless the actual victims band together, we can only man the watchtowers for this guy to keep him out. That's about it. Everything is being documented though, sooner or later, someone will have enough and won't take no for an answer from the authorities, and then he is going to be in deep gak. Sooner or later, his luck will run out with the feds, cops or IRS. His only way to avoid that is to get the hell out of the hobby, or at least, the 'business' side of things. I.e stop the aliases, harassment, fraud and scams.
MajorTom11 wrote: Yup. It's not up to us. I told a cop friend about this, asked what would happen up here... he heard toy soldiers and just started laughing and basically was about to change the topic as if that was it. It took me 20 more minutes to give him the full picture of what was going on.
Unless the actual victims band together, we can only man the watchtowers for this guy to keep him out. That's about it. Everything is being documented though, sooner or later, someone will have enough and won't take no for an answer from the authorities, and then he is going to be in deep gak. Sooner or later, his luck will run out with the feds, cops or IRS. His only way to avoid that is to get the hell out of the hobby, or at least, the 'business' side of things. I.e stop the aliases, harassment, fraud and scams.
And by banding together = it damn well meet a certain $ amount or his local PD and District Attorney won't do anything but send YOU a pretty little form letter.
@Tom Now imagine someone is telling you LE friend the same story, but he doesn't know them. I doubt they would have been able to get to the end of it like you did. And not because he's uncaring, but because the people that are in charge of investigating such things aren't usually part of the community of gamers. They hear toys but don't give it a dollar value sadly.
MajorTom11 wrote: Yup. It's not up to us. I told a cop friend about this, asked what would happen up here... he heard toy soldiers and just started laughing and basically was about to change the topic as if that was it. It took me 20 more minutes to give him the full picture of what was going on.
Unless the actual victims band together, we can only man the watchtowers for this guy to keep him out. That's about it. Everything is being documented though, sooner or later, someone will have enough and won't take no for an answer from the authorities, and then he is going to be in deep gak. Sooner or later, his luck will run out with the feds, cops or IRS. His only way to avoid that is to get the hell out of the hobby, or at least, the 'business' side of things. I.e stop the aliases, harassment, fraud and scams.
Tom's summed it up pretty nicely.
The individual amounts, the spread out nature of his victims and the subject matter all combine to make this one a non-starter for almost anyone in 'law enforcement'.
They simply do not feel it is worth their time, money or effort - they are often times completely overbooked, overworked and extremely pressed for success.
To be fair to the police, there are a lot of demands on their time, and they can't cover everything, so they concentrate on the stuff that seems important.
alarmingrick wrote:And by banding together = it damn well meet a certain $ amount or his local PD and District Attorney won't do anything but send YOU a pretty little form letter.
Kilkrazy wrote:To be fair to the police, there are a lot of demands on their time, and they can't cover everything, so they concentrate on the stuff that seems important.
There is also an upper $ limit of what District attornies prosecute, see Goldman Sachs.
It also depends on who you talk to, what's going on at that time in their area, etc.
Over a decade ago a guy tried to rip me and a bunch of other people off over Ebay. A bunch of us called and emailed the local police, and they actually started calling us back. Eventually it was sorted out and the guy gave out refunds. It had to have been a smaller overall loss than what DM's racked up, but we might've just been lucky and found an officer with a few hours to kill on a quiet shift and decided to look into this "people being ripped off over a stupid card game thing" matter.
It'd be funny if some member of the community who was independently wealthy (like, never has to work a day in his or her life) decided to take DM up on an absolutely too good to be true offer for enough to justify a solid law enforcement investigation. "Toy soldiers" or not, I imagine once you break five or ten grand at once someone would take an interest, if just for the story to tell later. "Man, you would not believe what some people will pay for these miniatures..."
Well my post pointing out that Big Bad had been in touch with Dan/Alan managed a record breaking 12 hours before been taken down and i got banned ! He must be busy setting up his next scam
Forar wrote: It also depends on who you talk to, what's going on at that time in their area, etc.
Over a decade ago a guy tried to rip me and a bunch of other people off over Ebay. A bunch of us called and emailed the local police, and they actually started calling us back. Eventually it was sorted out and the guy gave out refunds. It had to have been a smaller overall loss than what DM's racked up, but we might've just been lucky and found an officer with a few hours to kill on a quiet shift and decided to look into this "people being ripped off over a stupid card game thing" matter.
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It must have helped that a group of victims all complained. The individual sums add up to a more impressive total.
Well my post pointing out that Big Bad had been in touch with Dan/Alan managed a record breaking 12 hours before been taken down and i got banned ! He must be busy setting up his next scam
Which clearly proves that his imaginary alias (remember, no social security number for "Alan Welson" in California for anybody under 70) didn't commit self-harm. Since it is so important to still try to hide stuff that everybody on the internet knows.
Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
@Tom Now imagine someone is telling you LE friend the same story, but he doesn't know them. I doubt they would have been able to get to the end of it like you did. And not because he's uncaring, but because the people that are in charge of investigating such things aren't usually part of the community of gamers. They hear toys but don't give it a dollar value sadly.
and everyone's insistence to set the value of a miniature at 50% of retail or less really doesn't help either. It might cost you $300 to replace that landraider, the squad of terminators, the commander, the couple tac squads and daemon auxilia, but if the community insists on trading at 50% of retail value, it really doesn't help push the claim that you're $300 out. I had one guy I traded with crap on me that I put the value of the models i sent him at $100, and he had to pay tax on it, but if I don't declare the value and the package goes missing, I'm not going to pay out of my pocket to make up for the difference in the value of the trade, and I get royally hacked when I get something I know is worth near $100, and only $20 were declared, because if the package goes missing, at best, I'm out by $80 worth of that trade. There's more at stake here than just the tax. It doesn't matter what the retail value is, what matters is what you sold it for, and if you consistently insist on selling/declaring for less, you can consistently expect cons to be a bane on the community, and get away without getting charged because the value of what they steal has been severely deflated.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
Spoiler:
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
Okay, question. Why is Daniel & MJ both listed as liking whatever?
Is it just a random thing, or are they linked? Thanks for any help for
us "Facespace" challenged!
My guess is that he is working on the next project and now he is just trying to use this failed venture as a smoke and mirror operation to keep everybody distracted.
There have been a number of posts like this going up on his FB page around midnight EST and being deleted later in the a.m.
"***** Update Time! *******
I know that we have been discussing this all back and forth via email and PMs, so if anything is a repeat, I do apologize.
For the few people who wanted a hound made up, I have great news.
First off, the 2 Khorne custom hounds with inlaid skulls and lots of Khorne Bronze symbols is almost done. It also includes TONS of other details suck as many spikes, variant power plant and custom head with slightly open mouth showing many sharp teeth like a shark.
Next was the 2 Slaanesh versions which after the drama before the designs have been changed to fit each customer. Small give away would be thinner, doom pack on torso, doom sirens and speakers around face and TONS of ornate trim all over.
Finally the renegade hound will take the fee of a merc that would work for any side if the pay is right. (or whichever side the HH does the best)
------------This is not a post for any one except those that have questions on the kit or what can be done with it. Its start drama.Those posts will be removed. Lets keep it civil people.-------"
One can only assume. The thing is, the messages only go up while people are sleeping, then get taken down. This is for someone's benefit, he's keeping someone who subscribes to his page on the hook. What are the odds there's another message that comes out next week about some problem that makes it so he needs more time...
I'd just like to chip in with a point on the reporting of crimes. I'm unsure of the US position, but with the UK police, report anything that is a crime.
The cynical might say it is pointless as they won't do anything. However, all reports (in the UK at least) are logged and should be added to their intelligence systems. All UK police have intel departments who, over time and with enough reports, will be able to put together a pattern of the fraud and theft committed making any future action much easier especially if all the crimes, combined, mount up.
Edit - should clarify, that the Victim of the crime should report it - not all and sundry!
Kilkrazy wrote: Who is the complainant, though? There's no actual evidence without a victim.
People on the internet can't just go around reporting other people, purely on the basis of suspicion.
It could all just be a silly game played via social media.
I've clarified the post somewhat - I did meant the Victim should report the crime not all and sundry otherwise you'd end up with a proper circus (as you mentioned).
This is from May or June. No clue about the details of the report, but it looks like he wants the protection of law enforcement in operating his venture.
That's it, I am getting tired of this guy and his shenanigans. It's time to get organized before trouble gets stirred up for someone who has actually been ripped off. We can take the same information to the same detective and get a fraud case going pretty quickly.
Texas has very strong laws on the books about advance fee fraud, mostly aimed at contractors who take advance money for home improvements and don't do the work. They apply to pretty much any service based business, however - anyone who has sent him money / something of worth and not gotten what was promised could be party to a complaint provided you can establish this was your guy.
PM me if you want to be involved here. I am sick of hearing about rip off artists in this community and do plan to take action. I am more than happy to do the legwork around swearing out the complaint and meeting with investigators to at least get this on the books.
So time to contact Forgeworld then since this waste of the human races oxygen is going ahead with selling them ( good timing DM wait till there packing for Games Day to update ) maybe some people should mention this to them this weekend
Forgeworld Guy .... " what do you think of our Chaos Warhound Titan?"
Me .... Yeah its nice but i'm going to order one from Black Crusade its soooo much cheaper than yours "
Forgeworld Guy ....." WTF from who ???????"
Me ...... " These guys (show pictures of FB page) see he lives here in Dallas(show address ) but pretends to live in LA and he's going to sell me one really cheap !
Forgeworld Guy ... (pulls phone ) " Hello Legal Department ? release the Lawyers"
Savagecoyote wrote: So time to contact Forgeworld then since this waste of the human races oxygen is going ahead with selling them ( good timing DM wait till there packing for Games Day to update ) maybe some people should mention this to them this weekend
Forgeworld Guy .... " what do you think of our Chaos Warhound Titan?"
Me .... Yeah its nice but i'm going to order one from Black Crusade its soooo much cheaper than yours "
Forgeworld Guy ....." WTF from who ???????"
Me ...... " These guys (show pictures of FB page) see he lives here in Dallas(show address ) but pretends to live in LA and he's going to sell me one really cheap !
Forgeworld Guy ... (pulls phone ) " Hello Legal Department ? release the Lawyers"
Legal has already been notified internally and externally. I know of two forgeworld employees who reported the titan when it first went into production from BCS and I also reported it and got a response that they'd look into it.
I've been reading a lot about this Black Crusade Studios and "Daniel Mandelbaum" but I'd never encountered them personally until today...
I've just seen someone going by the name of "Alan Welson" (I suppose Dakka Dakka can add his name to the list of possible DM aliases) sharing a post by Black Crusade Studios on a GW fansite Facebook page. [url=https://www.facebook.com/groups/2375487814/10151728350207815/?notif_t=group_comment_reply](A Fansite for Gamesworkshop).
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"Alan Welson" shared this Update post from BCS, relating to a "Renegade" and "Khorne Hounds". I'm not sure if these are supposed to be Warhound Titans, or something else, but, having heard the sorry saga about BCS somehow nicking the designs of someone's original custom 3D printed Warhound Titan and trying to sell copies of it despite the author claiming to have never shared the designs nor permitted it's sale, this post set alarm bells ringing when I saw it. (I've seen the youtube video response by the creator of the Titan).
Alan Welson, reposting a Black Crusade Studios Update wrote:***** Update Time! *******
I know that we have been discussing this all back and forth via email and PMs, so if anything is a repeat, I do apologize.
For the few people who wanted a hound made up, I have great news.
First off, the 2 Khorne custom hounds with inlaid skulls and lots of Khorne Bronze symbols is almost done. It also includes TONS of other details suck as many spikes, variant power plant and custom head with slightly open mouth showing many sharp teeth like a shark.
Next was the 2 Slaanesh versions which after the drama before the designs have been changed to fit each customer. Small give away would be thinner, doom pack on torso, doom sirens and speakers around face and TONS of ornate trim all over.
Finally the renegade hound will take the fee of a merc that would work for any side if the pay is right. (or whichever side the HH does the best)
------------This is not a post for any one except those that have questions on the kit or what can be done with it. Its start drama.Those posts will be removed. Lets keep it civil people.-------
Spoiler:
Alan Welson: Pics of the first completed parts coming in. Once the rest arrive ill blue tac a mockup of a final one for customer approval. Please note these are madefor a small group.
RW Are these the printed hounds, or FW hounds?
Alan Welson The original was to be 100% printed. The modified ones for my customers are a combo of printing harder parts and scratching the rest to fit the designs each customer requested. And yes im sure this will be screen shot and posted all over as I do recall your face and name.
And by scratching = casting
RW You recall me face and name? I was the guy who defended you on the 40k group. Guilty conscience much?
SM Here we go again..
JP (Me) I've pm'd Sami to bring this to her attention.
MH The names of the guilty have been changed to dupe the Innocent...
RW Not sure why I've suddenly become the bad guy. Maybe other people share my Avatar and name.
Welcome to Dakka shadow captain, sorry that they turned hostile on you. That's just part of his MO. He attacks his defenders just as much as his adversaries.
Hopefully Sami will remove his entire post since it has no relevance to her group other than to boast "hey I cast gw IP and don't care"
The last line of his post is contradictory to his actions. If it was indeed only for a select group of people why share it to Facebook groups?
He is clearly hoping that he can go ahead with his plans regardless of him being outted and still get enough suckers to go in for it. Also relying on the original sculptor and GW not going after him.
Oh im sure he'll pull the vicitm card soon enough. Gotta be careful on this Fansite page though as Sami wont put up with too much hassle, so i'm just asking for 'clarification'
To be clear, nobody in that thread is being hostile to anybody...yet. Nobody has addressed me directly. I havn't said much, just that I've contacted the Admin of the group, and I posted a link to the youtube video by the rightful creator and owner of the custom Warhound Titan.
So far its pretty tame.
DiabolicAl wrote: Oh im sure he'll pull the vicitm card soon enough. Gotta be careful on this Fansite page though as Sami wont put up with too much hassle, so i'm just asking for 'clarification'
Dodgy git he is though....
He already has. It was his opening gambit actually. The Black Crusade Studios post that he quoted and shared had this remark:
This is not a post for any one except those that have questions on the kit or what can be done with it. Its start drama.Those posts will be removed. Lets keep it civil people.
Translation:
This is a post for potential suckers only. No Critics allowed.
He also knows hes going to get a backlash and that his activity is being noted.
And yes im sure this will be screen shot and posted all over as I do recall your face and name.
Unfortunately, Sami doesn't seem to care about the particulars. She can, however and obviously, run her page as she chooses, in the end, even if I disagree with her decisions on how to handle this, she is just a victim of this crap too. It's not her fault this...person... decided to come into her life.
Agreed S. I want pictures.
He managed to print 4 warhounds and create custom parts for them each in 4 weeks while working a full time job. Sounds a little to perfect to me.
I get that he says he's only assembling one but still.
I call his bluff till we see pics.
He managed to print 4 warhounds and create custom parts for them each in 4 weeks while working a full time job. Sounds a little to perfect to me.
While suffering from severe depression and contemplating self-harm no less. Productive person, impressive. Maybe he has trained parrots which help him in this kind of stuff
Also to DM, the most faithful reader this thread has ever seen - it seems the whole internet is conspiring against you
I know right? I was in a bad mood yesterday and smashed a model I was painting for clash for a cure, but AW in his depressed state can crank out titans. What the hell? Lol
He managed to print 4 warhounds and create custom parts for them each in 4 weeks while working a full time job. Sounds a little to perfect to me.
While suffering from severe depression and contemplating self-harm no less. Productive person, impressive. Maybe he has trained parrots which help him in this kind of stuff
Slightly off topic fer a second: I suffer from severe depression, I will actually get in a zone where I could build about 1500 points of converted orks in a night when severely depressed. When I suffer, I need to do anything to take my mind off of the pain. So I will often Build, write, and paint within a night or two while forgoing sleep.
But everyone knows Mandelbaum's MO, this obviously isn't the case
When I suffer, I need to do anything to take my mind off of the pain. So I will often Build, write, and paint within a night or two while forgoing sleep.
I am however sure you will also be able to snap a pic or two during those bouts of frantic activity.
By no means am I trying to say mandelbaum is in any way doing what I do. I'm merely attempting to dismiss a stigma that people with depression are so crippled that they do nothing. Some do the opposite.
I'm not dumb or blind enough to see the evidence against him and be on his side. I've been following this for a bit and commented on this very thread in the past. He's an alleged criminal. I just saw the comment and read it as a stereotype at people with depression. Not trying to stir the pot, just chiming in.
he sent me this, then blocked me lol Alan Welson
You really should lean to do some fact checking before you believe anything you read on the net. BCS has scammed no on and in 2 weeks you can bow down and fething apologize to me I want nothing to do with.
OoOoOo knowzzzzzz... I swore. Im blocking you now so have fun harassing posts you cant see. I will however unblock you as the kits go up so you can eat your words and take back all your bs.
Go find a real scammer Mr Yung.
Good for you DM, I'm more worried about your spelling than I am your swearing, at least you can manage 4 letter words on occasion lol.
I guess he was lacking attention after 2 weeks of quiet. That being said, since he has decided to pursue BCS for the time being, he is either smokescreening for a second scam, or, he has actually spent money trying to put something even halfway resembling the warhound files he claimed he has to pull a giant 'told you so' on us, and pretend like those were the files he was talking about all along in an attempt to discredit us.
At this point, he must realize I ain't BS'ing that I can find him whatever name he is using, so it may be time to try to discredit us since he can't shake us.
Whatever.
He's a fiendish liar, but he ain't as clever as he thinks either.
Sorry, can't let this slide without saying Hi, and welcome to the party!
Grab your favorite snack, adult beverage and get comfy as we continue with the never ending Dan Mandelbaum watch!
We need a GoT reference for him.
How about "Scams are coming"?
"One does not simply....buy things from Daniel Mandelbaum"
Sorry, on a tablet, can't do the meme gen thing,
This made me lol. Brilliant.
On topic:
There is no way in hell the 1:1 of that warhound is coming out. If he had the files, then he committed a felony getting them, or he committed a felony by possessing known stolen goods, then replicating them, then knowingly selling stolen goods.
If a single model gets made, I think the original creator should press felony charges.
"One does not simply....buy things from Daniel Mandelbaum"
Sorry, on a tablet, can't do the meme gen thing,
This made me lol. Brilliant.
On topic:
There is no way in hell the 1:1 of that warhound is coming out. If he had the files, then he committed a felony getting them, or he committed a felony by possessing known stolen goods, then replicating them, then knowingly selling stolen goods.
If a single model gets made, I think the original creator should press felony charges.
That... I think that will actually do the trick. He can't pull a receipt out of his ass. If he does, then the original owner just needs to produce a statment from all accounts for the relavant period....
This amuses me because the Dakka glossary defines OT as Off Topic, not On.
Aduro, since you knew exactly what was meant, your response to a spam warning is to spam some more. Don't please. MT11
Sorry, can't let this slide without saying Hi, and welcome to the party!
Grab your favorite snack, adult beverage and get comfy as we continue with the never ending Dan Mandelbaum watch!
We need a GoT reference for him.
How about "Scams are coming"?
God I fething love Game of Thrones. Got all the ASOIAF books and the DVDs. And I was using the "King in the North" wolfs-head scene from the Red Wedding as a desktop background until I came to the conclusion that my heart was being broken everytime I booted my laptop up... The North Remembers...
What confuses me most about DM is why he continues to persist with this scam. Surely the entire fething internet knows now, and he knows it knows to that point that he remarks that he knows the post will be "screenshotted and posted everywhere". Why doesn't he just give it up, start up a new business under a different name and alias and try a different scam?
If there is one thing we can deduce from all this, its that he has the Stubborn USR.
Sorry, can't let this slide without saying Hi, and welcome to the party!
Grab your favorite snack, adult beverage and get comfy as we continue with the never ending Dan Mandelbaum watch!
We need a GoT reference for him.
How about "Scams are coming"?
God I fething love Game of Thrones. Got all the ASOIAF books and the DVDs. And I was using the "King in the North" wolfs-head scene from the Red Wedding as a desktop background until I came to the conclusion that my heart was being broken everytime I booted my laptop up... The North Remembers...
What confuses me most about DM is why he continues to persist with this scam. Surely the entire fething internet knows now, and he knows it knows to that point that he remarks that he knows the post will be "screenshotted and posted everywhere". Why doesn't he just give it up, start up a new business under a different name and alias and try a different scam?
If there is one thing we can deduce from all this, its that he has the Stubborn USR.
More like repeatedly failing his Stupidity test with his Ld of 3 and persisting his tomfoolery nonstop.
What confuses me most about DM is why he continues to persist with this scam. Surely the entire fething internet knows now, and he knows it knows to that point that he remarks that he knows the post will be "screenshotted and posted everywhere". Why doesn't he just give it up, start up a new business under a different name and alias and try a different scam?
If there is one thing we can deduce from all this, its that he has the Stubborn USR.
why does GW consistently and persistently ignore its customer base and the existence of the internet past its own website and 3rd party retailers? So long as there is someone to be conned, someone will step up to the plate to do the conning.... it's a..... less palatable.... example of capitalism at work. The majority might be aware, but the majority be damned, because there's still someone who isn't part of that majority.
It likely costs very little to run a setup like this, especially if you're letting another site (eg Facebook in this case) do all the hosting (ergo no web costs). So the only thing it really costs is time to run the setup.
At that point if its a scam (and this little to no actual stock required) it means that with 0 cost you only need to hook one or two people to make a profit; get more and you're away. It's why you get so many of those spam emails from Nigerian Princes - they only need one person out of the hundreds of thousands that they contact to pay up to make it worth while.
Persistence at this stage might also be hoping that it is going to generate support; I mean after all the negative attention only a legitimate company would continue because any scam company would have moved on by now - right?
PS - GW isn't in the business of charging people and then not delivering; whilst we can argue about what we think they should be charging us per model; at the end of the day we either pay and play or move on. It's really not in the same league as scam setups.
So, I received a little message today, from Mandelbaum via a middle party. I'm going to respond here, in public -
Dear Daniel:
I received your 'message' about how you are in financial trouble and you want Dakka to leave you alone and how you are not scamming and you want to know what you can do to make 'us' back off. I will repeat, right here right now, I do not speak for 'Dakka'. I am not employed by Dakka, I do not receive anything from Dakka. I am just a member with some privileges who volunteers some time. I am a person posting on a forum. Just like you can't say someone calling you names on a Verizon phone is 'Verizon' attacking you, you can't put the name Dakka on anything. You need to understand it is the community who dislikes you, in general. 'Dakka' is just one of many ways people express it, along with Facebook, other forums and blogs, websites etc.
Now, regarding your line of questions, let me start with the vinegar first.
It amuses me you want me to help you figure this out while spitting a stream of vitriol at me personally. Good job right off the bat on that one.
Moving on, to put it in a short answer, there is nothing you can do to get off scott-free. There is nothing you can do that will make the community stop watching you like a hawk. You don't seem to understand Daniel, the issue with your companies and aliases isn't the company, it's you. You are the problem. No one in their right mind would ever, ever trust you, ever, whatever name you go by, whatever company you are currently using.
Frankly, I am astounded you claim to be reformed while simultaneously lying through your teeth. You have yet to admit that you are Alan Welson. I know it's you Daniel. Without a single shred of doubt, I know it's you, so give it up. You have yet to admit to a full list of your other aliases, including ResinForge all along, your own mother and all the others. You have yet to admit you have scammed in the past. You continue to engage in terrible business behaviour and late night phone harassment. You continue to play the victim whenever possible.
You are about to be evicted? You need the wargaming community to bail you out? That sucks. Also, completely and totally not our problem. You honestly expect help or sympathy from your victims here man? If you spent less time ripping people off and focusing on an actual career, you might not be in your spot right now (if it's even true), and you might have been able to count on your side-projects actually generating revenue. The fact that's not happening is on you. Not anyone else, just you.
The way I figure it, from what can be gathered you are sitting on what... a grand of FW bits you didn't move that I saw? You also have your BCS and RF conversions, and whatever off-brand titan you have been working on to cover up the fact you never had the one you said you had in hand. May be wrong on that one but I'd bet a good amount that that was your plan judging by your BCS comments. This 'olive branch' comes a day after I made that prediction, so I can't help but thing I hit pretty close to the mark eh?
So ya, we all know you have stuff to sell. The thing you don't get is that we can't stop anyone from buying from you. They are stopping themselves. They don't like what they hear about you. They don't like your behaviour online under your aliases. They don't like that you can't produce a shred of evidence, ever, about anything. You are pissed you have to suspect anyone and everyone who may buy from you for being dishonest? Now you know what the rest of the community feels like buying online from new places or commissioning work thanks to you and your criminal antics. Too bad so sad.
Frankly, your story still stinks. You could sell your stuff easily enough on eBay for a pretty decent profit, and do it pretty anonymously. You just don't like eBay anymore because you cannot escape liability there, and you are either already banned, or you know your set-up wouldn't last long. So, this tells me you aren't desperate for short-term cash. You are desperate to get back into this community in an ongoing way, you think we are a big fat bag of cash just waiting for you. You think we are unfairly getting in the way of you claiming what is rightfully yours. That's insane. People do want bits and conversions Daniel. They just don't want it from you.
Now, the 'honey', where I actually attempt to answer your question attempting to positive result, understanding though that you will never be free from scrutiny in this community though, not until a positive track record eclipses your negative one anyways (good luck with that, it will take years).
1. Register your business, under your name and your name alone. Make it public as you are obligated to do.
2. Officially announce it is you, Daniel Mandelbaum.
3. Officially admit that you have scammed in the past and come clean. List each of your businesses and aliases yourself. Don't forget anything, not RF, not BCS, not Susan Beasley.
4. You still owe people money. Deal with them publicly if they come forward. Be transparent. No more shadow games in FBPMs.
5. Admit you have lied about models you had for sale, attending events and have used suicide, dead fictional wives and children, cancer and a variety of other despicable means to extend lies. Fess up.
100% transparency and honesty is your only hope here if you ask me. You can never lie again. You can never hide your identity or not be directly legally accountable again. You have to fully inform your customers of who they are dealing with, and show them you are putting the power to protect themselves in their hands, not yours.
100% Daniel. You think it's just me or Dakka who watches for you. It's not. It's a very large part of the community at this point. You seem to think if you somehow convince me of anything that it would change anything for you. It won't. You have to convince 100's if not 1000's of people who have had enough of you. It's a tall order. The only way to do it is to be One. Hundred. Percent. Transparent and honest. And to operate legally.
Chances are even if you are/do, it's too far gone. You burned all your bridges years ago and have only made things worse for yourself since. You think you can just announce you are reformed while still lying and cheating and that somehow wipes your ridiculously extensive slate clean? Come on. Your word means less than nothing to anyone. Only actual, positive and transparent action will have any kind of traction whatsoever.
On the slim chance you could somehow salvage your situation, it would take YEARS Daniel. Years with nothing fishy, with no problems, no lost packages, no paypal issues, no aliases, no selling or advertising other people's product as your own, be it FW or otherwise.
So that's all I have to say on the matter for you.
Oh -
One last thing -
STOP HARRASING PEOPLE ON THE PHONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. That's a donkey-cave move and you know it. All of society knows it. This is not the behaviour of a trustworthy or simply nice person. If you can't even restrain yourself from something as basic and simple as that, why in the name of everything good would anyone believe you would behave any better when it comes to money?
Hey, could someone maybe post whatever FB things from AW here as screenshots? He finally wised up and blocked me on FB so I have no idea whats been happening in the last couple of days
Him blocking you only means you can't post on his page. The Alan Welson page isn't set to private, and hasn't had anything posted on the actual account page since 8/29/13. Same with BCS, the last post was pasted here about the warhounds being made.
I of course am blocked on both, so I used a burner fb account just to double check that I wasn't missing anything.
If it wasn't for his persistent lying and deceit he could have a pretty decent operation and reputation.
I have seen some of his conversion work in the past and this look would suit me down to the ground on a couple of projects, however, I am not going to deal with a scammer.
I would deal with an honest an open community member.
I got an email direct from Mandelbaum - I added in the numbers to clarify my answers -
1 Being banned limits my ability to respond to your oh so public post.
2 I am here to tell you I will be opening Resin Forge 2.0.
3 I will register it, provide the needed info to you with which you can do with as you like.
4 For past people owed, I listed my number for over 5 weeks and got no calls but 1 guy who was scamming me which I had tracking numbers for showing delivery. There were no other calls, no other emails, no nothing.
5 Bringing up my mothers name as an alias is WRONG. I gave her something to do with me in her final months before she passed away then closed the account. The only negatives on those accounts 2,3 and 4 respectively are from the same person claiming item not as described to run the power seller status they all had.
6 I will be listing my business ID number as well as an address and phone number right on the main page as well.
7 I would like a reply to this email, not a public response with anything else you want me to do. I will be opening the shop. I also want to end with this. Resin forge had a perfect track record including refunding 3 people who had tracking numbers, 2 said delivered one stopped updating from Chicago. I refunded them all anyways. Other then that it was a perfect shop with super fast shipping.
8 And it will be again. I'm trying to be civil and do what you think is best for the community so please tom, work with me to show me the ropes on how YOU want it done. Ive also offered FULL transparency including access to sales records who you can then check on.
9 Does this work for you? Because either way, I will reopen the shop. I would just prefer its in the manor you outlined.
So, first of all Daniel, obviously, I am NOT going to keep your communications private. You seem to be missing that point amongst others. So let me hit your points here -
1. Yup that will happen. Too bad you have bragged that you could get around it, and did in the past with your other aliases. You could also post your responses publicly in a variety of places, if you wanted to.
2. Good for you. Though I am entirely at a loss as to what makes it 2.0.
3. I thought it was already registered, twice? 1st time with you Jason and Kim, then with just Jason and Kim? Forgot that bit did you... I would still like to see those registrations. Or you can admit you were lying and it was you all along.
4. You listed your phone # on your site for 5 weeks. Excellent. That is surely a 100% guaranteed way to pay people back. How about you just go through your emails, since you know full well who you have ripped off and who is left, and get in contact yourself and pay them back? Instead, you want to make your victims do the work and let yourself off the hook if they don't happen to go to Resin Forge's webpage? Ya. You certainly did all you could. Plus, I thought it was only Kim who listed that number and you were already gone and had nothing to do with it? Forgot about that too huh?
5. No, brining up your mother's name is NOT wrong. Faking a dying wife. Faking a dying baby. Faking Cancer. Faking threats of harm to yourself and others. PRETENDING TO BE YOUR MOTHER while using her credentials is wrong. You brought her name into this yourself. You used her so you could steal from people. No sir, the dishonor on that front is all yours. You seem to forget you tripped up with me and admitted it was you, not her already. Hard to keep track I know but do try.
6. Good, since that is your legal obligation and nothing to do with me or anyone else.
7. As I mentioned, I will not keep secrets for you, nor will I be drawn into some long back and forth. I already thouroughly explained my interpretation of your situation, and the fact that I have no power to 'end' this. I could endorse you for holy president of the planet earth and say you have been possessed by the spirit of god as his avatar on earth, and guess what, no one would listen to me. You have the worst possible reputation anyone could have in this community. There is no band-aid that is going to fix it, and certainly nothing words alone will do.
Here's the big thing, since it is not sinking in, I'm gonna bold it. You ARE Resin Forge. Resin Forge is not some independent thing with a perfect track record. You have a disgusting, brutally dishonest and criminal track record. Therefore Resin Forge shares it. You don't get to announce that you have decided you deserve a clean slate. Resin Forge was a pit of lies, aliases and BS all along too so I don't know where you get off. Where's the proof you went to the HH weekender? Where are those registration numbers? Where is the admission you were there all along? You sold things you couldn't get. That's a scam. You faked a pre-order. So get off it.
8. As I said in 7, there is no 'again' to go back to. You have never run an honest, transparent, legal business. Ever. So please, spare us the protestations. As to you being civil, your message was decidedly not civil when it came to me less than 24 hours ago, so you'll forgive skepticism there too.
9. I will never, ever, trust you, or recommend anyone anywhere to have anything to do with you. 'Does this work for me' is irrelevant both due to that and due to the fact you really want me to have the power to make anything work for you even if I wanted to. I can't help you. 1000's of people know about you, your track record is there for all to see. It's not going away. If there is a 'leader' to this movement it is you Daniel. You created your own environment here. You want me to be some key to fixing it, but it was never me, it was you. Now it is too far gone, and you are looking to blame someone else as usual.
So. Looking at this mail, you admit nothing. You continue to lie about nearly everything. You continue to say you were victimized in every case by someone 'out to get you'. You apologize for nothing. Nothing has changed. Nothing.
So go ahead and open ResinForge 2.0. Or whatever else you come up with. You will find much like yourself, nothing has changed.
That was part of the fess up, admit each and every previous alias and business you ran... But like I said, he hasn't changed one damned bit, and thinks other people are responsible for his reputation, not himself.
Agreed, nothing has changed. He's never going to refund everyone he's defrauded, there are too many and they give up trying to get repaid after months/years of being led on. Just check the "history of Daniel Mandelbaum in the wargaming community" thread for concrete examples.
Not worth responding to him further, imo. Nothing has changed.
Also worth noting here guys, as it is very important to illustrate just how big a liar this guy is -
Remember the lengths Resin Forge went to to 'prove' DM had nothing to do with them anymore? Remember that he was long-gone and out of the picture? Remember how they swore up and down?
Here he is, 3 months later, the owner of RF.
Nothing but lies. He was even lying about it til he slipped up with his fake C&D lol.
Look up 'Daniel Mandelbaum Scammer' on Google and see the pages and pages of claims that he wasn't there covered by dozens of sites and blogs.
And yet, 3 months later, he can't keep his story straight, and Resin Forge was 100% on the up and up lol. He will probably come up with some bs story about how he bought it back from his aquaintance/gf/wife Stephakim in response to this but come on, it's mind numbingly ridiculous at this point that he thinks he can ever be trusted by anyone. I cannot think of any word that fits better than insane. His father should really man up and get DM some help, I can't imagine that this behaviour is not effecting other parts of his life.
MajorTom11 wrote: Also worth noting here guys, as it is very important to illustrate just how big a liar this guy is -
Remember the lengths Resin Forge went to to 'prove' DM had nothing to do with them anymore? Remember that he was long-gone and out of the picture? Remember how they swore up and down?
Here he is, 3 months later, the owner of RF.
Nothing but lies. He was even lying about it til he slipped up with his fake C&D lol.
Look up 'Daniel Mandelbaum Scammer' on Google and see the pages and pages of claims that he wasn't there covered by dozens of sites and blogs.
And yet, 3 months later, he can't keep his story straight, and Resin Forge was 100% on the up and up lol. He will probably come up with some bs story about how he bought it back from his aquaintance/gf/wife Stephakim in response to this but come on, it's mind numbingly ridiculous at this point that he thinks he can ever be trusted by anyone. I cannot think of any word that fits better than insane. His father should really man up and get DM some help, I can't imagine that this behaviour is not effecting other parts of his life.
As a person with an adult family member with mental problems, I can say I don't envy that task for his father. All it would take is for Daniel himself to seek the help.
But I guess if he could do that, there's a good chance we wouldn't have this thread!
I think you are doing a great service, to us and him, by posting this up. He has to realize you can't just wipe away something you don't like or are tired of.
Actions have consequences.
As to the rest, spot on. He refuses to understand that all this is a consequence of his actions, and therefore the issue lies with him. As far as he seems to be concerned, the only reason he is notorious is because people are mean and out to get him. If we were nice everything would be fine.
I very much expect an apology from Daniel for trying to get me fired and for harassing my office staff.
One thing I'd like to point out for those who may be on the fence, is that we should note that DM didn't send an email to MT11 until we all pounced on Alan Welson and BCS' posts this week. Coincidence? I think not.
Also, I highly doubt he's being evicted, unless Grandma and Grandpa took out a second on the house that Daniel is living in, or daddy has had enough of his shenanigans.
Aerethan wrote: I very much expect an apology from Daniel for trying to get me fired and for harassing my office staff.
One thing I'd like to point out for those who may be on the fence, is that we should note that DM didn't send an email to MT11 until we all pounced on Alan Welson and BCS' posts this week. Coincidence? I think not.
Also, I highly doubt he's being evicted, unless Grandma and Grandpa took out a second on the house that Daniel is living in, or daddy has had enough of his shenanigans.
Yep. I remember sending him monies when:
his laptop died
honeymoon
(imaginary) sick / pregnant wife
(imaginary)dead son / wife
I have no problem calling BS on the eviction story at this point. And even if it's true, it's a self inflicted wound at this point.
Just got this from 'Micheal Mandelbaum'... who sure speaks in a strange way for 50-60 year old. Anyways, for a guy who likes to cry threats, he sure likes to sling em!
morning major tom. let start by introducing myself. i am Michael Mandelbaum. I am Daniel Mandelbaum's father. now we can leave the nice intro behind us and i am going to tell you how it is and YOU HAD BETTER Listen. I dont give a gak about the internet world that you donkey-caves hide in. What you are doing is morally wrong besides illegal. I am aware the statute of the perversion of justice. if you dont cease immediately especially about my childrens mother being used as a alias and also talk9ing such liars about my deceased wife. you have gone to far. You can type,call and do what ever want but let make this clear. I am not a child nor a young man . I am the person you dont want to fek with. i want you to know i am writing this memo not to threaten you and you little bunch of followers but to protect my family.
Again, keep in mind that as a father and head of my family i will not sit idlelly by and let you and your common minded lackeys, run my honest and hard working son into the ground. You can have you own opinion and i suggest you keep to yourself that to yourself. you are a liar , a coward and apparently..... hell what can i say you are a chicken gak piece of gak.
you were approach by a mediator to resolved what ever imaginary issues you have.Even that was not enough for you. I will not waste my time with this email gak back and forth. I dont give a gak what a punk ass bitch like you says about me. But you really need to stop harassing, lying and spreading false accussations about resin forge ,my deceased wife,my son and any one in my family.
By the way since your are such a big shot prick name one person that resin forge ripped off.
If i have to get involved or hear even third more of you gak i wrote being, i WILL SEE YOU IN PERSON unless you are the chicken gak that you really are ,hiding behind a computer screen thinking no one can find you.. Remember anyone can be found.
ps my number has not changed it is 214-XXX-XXXX. unlike you i have no reason to hide because i am a Man not a little B**** like like you.
pss HAVE A NICE DAY!
Edited for swearing, obvs lol.
Drink it in folks, Mandelbaum at his best. I think 'Micheal' here is based on season 1 Jesse from Breaking Bad lol.
MajorTom11 wrote: Just got this from 'Micheal Mandelbaum'... who sure speaks in a strange way for 50-60 year old. Anyways, for a guy who likes to cry threats, he sure likes to sling em!
morning major tom. let start by introducing myself. i am Michael Mandelbaum. I am Daniel Mandelbaum's father. now we can leave the nice intro behind us and i am going to tell you how it is and YOU HAD BETTER Listen. I dont give a gak about the internet world that you donkey-caves hide in. What you are doing is morally wrong besides illegal. I am aware the statute of the perversion of justice. if you dont cease immediately especially about my childrens mother being used as a alias and also talk9ing such liars about my deceased wife. you have gone to far. You can type,call and do what ever want but let make this clear. I am not a child nor a young man . I am the person you dont want to fek with. i want you to know i am writing this memo not to threaten you and you little bunch of followers but to protect my family. Again, keep in mind that as a father and head of my family i will not sit idlelly by and let you and your common minded lackeys, run my honest and hard working son into the ground. You can have you own opinion and i suggest you keep to yourself that to yourself. you are a liar , a coward and apparently..... hell what can i say you are a chicken gak piece of gak. you were approach by a mediator to resolved what ever imaginary issues you have.Even that was not enough for you. I will not waste my time with this email gak back and forth. I dont give a gak what a punk ass bitch like you says about me. But you really need to stop harassing, lying and spreading false accussations about resin forge ,my deceased wife,my son and any one in my family. By the way since your are such a big shot prick name one person that resin forge ripped off. If i have to get involved or hear even third more of you gak i wrote being, i WILL SEE YOU IN PERSON unless you are the chicken gak that you really are ,hiding behind a computer screen thinking no one can find you.. Remember anyone can be found.
ps my number has not changed it is 214-XXX-XXXX. unlike you i have no reason to hide because i am a Man not a little B**** like like you.
pss HAVE A NICE DAY!
Edited for swearing, obvs lol.
Drink it in folks, Mandelbaum at his best. I think 'Micheal' here is based on season 1 Jesse from Breaking Bad lol.
Getting evicted, yet can afford to come to Canada?
Oh dear. Tom, out of mild curiosity, wouldn't that constitute grounds for threatening behaviour? Since he's gone out of his way to identify himself after all, perhaps a message to this (clearly unhinged) man's local PD might be in order about the nature of his communications?
I could always call Michael and tell him how his son called from HIS phone to my office and tried to get me fired. I love how he professes his sons innocence so blindly.
Ketara wrote: Oh dear. Tom, out of mild curiosity, wouldn't that constitute grounds for threatening behaviour? Since he's gone out of his way to identify himself after all, perhaps a message to this (clearly unhinged) man's local PD might be in order about the nature of his communications?
I agree, and it's not like we don't have ALL info on Michael short of his SSN. You should call DPD and file a report with his name, address and phone number as well as email for threatening violence and physical harm.
Resin Forge facebook page spotted 5 minutes ago with -
"Thats right! Resin Forge is going to be re-opening in the next few days. Haters will always hate but can never out number the loyal customers Resin Forge Store has and will ALWAYS have.
Expect many more kits, more bits and other unique items!
Somebody should tell him he still didn't put up an about section with the required contact info of a legit business. Also he should maybe actually listen to the guy in the video he ripped his new image from:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqFm8qOTaJY
Inquisitor S. wrote: Somebody should tell him he still didn't put up an about section with the required contact info of a legit business. Also he should maybe actually listen to the guy in the video he ripped his new image from:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqFm8qOTaJY
*lol*
I'm fairly certain the pissed off masses outnumber the "loyal customers".
Ive decided to re open Resin Forge due to a very high demand from customers such as yourselves. The shop itself will be open this week sometime as I go over the inventory numbers to make sure everything is in stock and checked on.
I also plan to be adding MANY of the new kits to the shop, so if you have a request, just let me know and ill order it and list it up at once.
I also want to thank you all for being such loyal customers and hope the short closing did not effect your conversion to much! I can assure you all, we will NOT be closing again.
I just can't decide which of the two cases we deal with now:
1.) Daniel is just bored and we all know he needs the center of attention as a junkie needs his crack. Therefore this is not really an attempt at reopening, so it's not even worth the effort to create a new "identity" or shop name.
or
2.) He really wants to reopen and hopes for people buying his junk. In this case potential customers will love to know that he is in such dire financial straits that he faces eviction so he will not even have money to order stuff for commisions up front. And given his apparently excellent track record all Dallas banks will be reluctant to give him credit to buy all those new kits he is promising. WHich would mean what? Transfering the money and hoping he doesn't use it in a pyramid scheme?
In either case: yeah., Daniel, this looks like a brilliant plan..
MajorTom11 wrote: Just got this from 'Micheal Mandelbaum'... who sure speaks in a strange way for 50-60 year old. Anyways, for a guy who likes to cry threats, he sure likes to sling em!
morning major tom. let start by introducing myself. i am Michael Mandelbaum. I am Daniel Mandelbaum's father. now we can leave the nice intro behind us and i am going to tell you how it is and YOU HAD BETTER Listen. I dont give a gak about the internet world that you donkey-caves hide in. What you are doing is morally wrong besides illegal. I am aware the statute of the perversion of justice. if you dont cease immediately especially about my childrens mother being used as a alias and also talk9ing such liars about my deceased wife. you have gone to far. You can type,call and do what ever want but let make this clear. I am not a child nor a young man . I am the person you dont want to fek with. i want you to know i am writing this memo not to threaten you and you little bunch of followers but to protect my family.
Again, keep in mind that as a father and head of my family i will not sit idlelly by and let you and your common minded lackeys, run my honest and hard working son into the ground. You can have you own opinion and i suggest you keep to yourself that to yourself. you are a liar , a coward and apparently..... hell what can i say you are a chicken gak piece of gak.
you were approach by a mediator to resolved what ever imaginary issues you have.Even that was not enough for you. I will not waste my time with this email gak back and forth. I dont give a gak what a punk ass bitch like you says about me. But you really need to stop harassing, lying and spreading false accussations about resin forge ,my deceased wife,my son and any one in my family.
By the way since your are such a big shot prick name one person that resin forge ripped off.
If i have to get involved or hear even third more of you gak i wrote being, i WILL SEE YOU IN PERSON unless you are the chicken gak that you really are ,hiding behind a computer screen thinking no one can find you.. Remember anyone can be found.
ps my number has not changed it is 214-XXX-XXXX. unlike you i have no reason to hide because i am a Man not a little B**** like like you.
pss HAVE A NICE DAY!
Edited for swearing, obvs lol.
Drink it in folks, Mandelbaum at his best. I think 'Micheal' here is based on season 1 Jesse from Breaking Bad lol.
i WILL SEE YOU IN PERSON unless you are the chicken gak that you really are ,hiding behind a computer screen thinking no one can find you.. Remember anyone can be found.
This part is especially hilarious considering how often Daniel has refused to meet people in the Dallas area (still does). He even refused to meet with people he was supposed to do business with. Wishful thinking there of a person too afraid to stand up to allegations in real life. Just accusing other people of the things he is gulty of himself.
Especially funny also considering that he still tries his best to hide his real address when everybody with three and a half brain cells knows exactly how to find it. So who is hiding behind a computer screen now again? Or behind parrots. Or other people?
I've commented in that exact thread, yet my comments aren't showing up?
Inquisitor S, you got me ignore without even knowing who i am?!
Wait, what? Are you kidding me?
1.) I don't know who you are and what your name is - how can I ignore you?I don't even know what you wrote.
2.) The comments shown above and below Resin Forge's post are there because Facebook posted them there, not because I re-arranged them.
3.) The relevant post is Resin Forge's statement about NEW products he HAS TO BUY. The guy said he is practically bancrupt, he is allegedly about to be evicted - excellent pre-conditions to buy new merchandise.
End of offtopic comment.
P.S.: not mentioning that I potentially can't even see your post (what is its content?) because DM marked it as spam, so only your friends can still see it. DM also already deleted the first comment in my screenshot.
Perhaps the switch back to Resinforge and using his actual name is so he can try to go after those people he blames for his failures legally.
There is little legal recourse he has when using an alias but there is plenty of legal hay he could throw, albeit he won't get far when everything comes to light, if he is using his real name and has a registered business. His strategy may be to make enough legal problems for those in the community who fight his scams that we give up.
Obviously I don't think anyone is going to give up and let him just go on doing what he does but that may be the strategy he is attempting to implement. Or he could just be trying to seem legit, and seem like he is attempting to be legit in order to rip off more people. Lord only know what his real intentions are but I am more concerned over his not creating a new alias than I would be over him creating a new alias.
I've commented in that exact thread, yet my comments aren't showing up?
Inquisitor S, you got me ignore without even knowing who i am?!
Wait, what? Are you kidding me?
1.) I don't know who you are and what your name is - how can I ignore you?I don't even know what you wrote.
2.) The comments shown above and below Resin Forge's post are there because Facebook posted them there, not because I re-arranged them.
3.) The relevant post is Resin Forge's statement about NEW products he HAS TO BUY. The guy said he is practically bancrupt, he is allegedly about to be evicted - excellent pre-conditions to buy new merchandise.
End of offtopic comment.
P.S.: not mentioning that I potentially can't even see your post (what is its content?) because DM marked it as spam, so only your friends can still see it. DM also already deleted the first comment in my screenshot.
d-usa wrote:
azreal13 wrote: I've commented in that exact thread, yet my comments aren't showing up?
Inquisitor S, you got me ignore without even knowing who i am?!
If the page has you on ignore (aka: Daniel), then your posts will show up to you but not to anybody else (I think...).
Relax Inq S, I've PMed you, but I was jesting, don't fret.
@d-USA
I considered that, but as I've made precisely two comments, both in that thread, and neither that I would consider ban worthy, I'm not sure what people can say without bans?
My user name on here has no link to my real name, and there simply isn't a way he could link me to Dakka that I could see, unless he's vetting everyone who posts on the page's profiles
OverwatchCNC wrote: Perhaps the switch back to Resinforge and using his actual name is so he can try to go after those people he blames for his failures legally.
There is little legal recourse he has when using an alias but there is plenty of legal hay he could throw, albeit he won't get far when everything comes to light, if he is using his real name and has a registered business. His strategy may be to make enough legal problems for those in the community who fight his scams that we give up.
Obviously I don't think anyone is going to give up and let him just go on doing what he does but that may be the strategy he is attempting to implement. Or he could just be trying to seem legit, and seem like he is attempting to be legit in order to rip off more people. Lord only know what his real intentions are but I am more concerned over his not creating a new alias than I would be over him creating a new alias.
I readily welcome any challenges he thinks he can throw my way.
He won't be a legitimate business until everything MT11 requested happens. I've got no mercy to someone who tried to mess with my ability to provide for my family.
but there is plenty of legal hay he could throw, albeit he won't get far when everything comes to light,
No money for lawyers. No income or damages to be won that would make a case worthwile for lawyers. Remember the last made-up "lawyer/ consultancy" of his. PLus lawyers are like policemen: "Dolls?"
EDIT:
Relax Inq S, I've PMed you, but I was jesting, don't fret.
Usage of smilies can prevent misconceptions But let's not dwell on this now.
OverwatchCNC wrote: Perhaps the switch back to Resinforge and using his actual name is so he can try to go after those people he blames for his failures legally.
There is little legal recourse he has when using an alias but there is plenty of legal hay he could throw, albeit he won't get far when everything comes to light, if he is using his real name and has a registered business. His strategy may be to make enough legal problems for those in the community who fight his scams that we give up.
Obviously I don't think anyone is going to give up and let him just go on doing what he does but that may be the strategy he is attempting to implement. Or he could just be trying to seem legit, and seem like he is attempting to be legit in order to rip off more people. Lord only know what his real intentions are but I am more concerned over his not creating a new alias than I would be over him creating a new alias.
I readily welcome any challenges he thinks he can throw my way.
He won't be a legitimate business until everything MT11 requested happens. I've got no mercy to someone who tried to mess with my ability to provide for my family.
Inquisitor S. wrote:
but there is plenty of legal hay he could throw, albeit he won't get far when everything comes to light,
No money for lawyers. No income or damages to be won that would make a case worthwile for lawyers. Remember the last made-up "lawyer/ consultancy" of his. PLus lawyers are like policemen: "Dolls?"
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Relax Inq S, I've PMed you, but I was jesting, don't fret.
Usage of smilies can prevent misconceptions But let's not dwell on this now.
Don't get me wrong I don't think any of what he is trying will work. I just find it more disconcerting that he is NOT using an alias anymore.
Aerethean I understand exactly where you are coming from. Attempting to get you fired was not just ridiculous but a completely unforgivable act.
Don't get me wrong I don't think any of what he is trying will work. I just find it more disconcerting that he is NOT using an alias anymore.
We do not know all the people he is communicating with behind the scenes - there is a chance that there are really some who contacted him to buy stuff. This would be hard to do under a new alias.
Also: He did not publicly admit on Resin Forge that he is Daniel Mandelbaum or anything in that direction. You assume that everybody knows that, but only people coming here know that. The way he posted on Resin Forge his true believers have to be under the impresseion that he is "Kim". So technically he is not operating under his true identity. He just used his real name to communicate with MajorTom11 in two (or so) messages.
Correct me if I am wrong, but that's how I see it. There is no official association announced on his page that he is Mandelbaum and "back" at RF. He will most probably just delete all posts in that direction or claim that they were made up by us.
EDIT:
I've reported the Resin Forge FB page to FB for being a scam.
This guy just doesn't give up...
That already happened quite a lot - without an apparent effect - but at some point maybe there is a threshold
Don't get me wrong I don't think any of what he is trying will work. I just find it more disconcerting that he is NOT using an alias anymore.
We do not know all the people he is communicating with behind the scenes - there is a chance that there are really some who contacted him to buy stuff. This would be hard to do under a new alias.
Also: He did not publicly admit on Resin Forge that he is Daniel Mandelbaum or anything in that direction. You assume that everybody knows that, but only people coming here know that. The way he posted on Resin Forge his true believers have to be under the impresseion that he is "Kim". So technically he is not operating under his true identity. He just used his real name to communicate with MajorTom11 in two (or so) messages.
Correct me if I am wrong, but that's how I see it. There is no official association announced on his page that he is Mandelbaum and "back" at RF. He will most probably just delete all posts in that direction or claim that they were made up by us.
EDIT:
I've reported the Resin Forge FB page to FB for being a scam.
This guy just doesn't give up...
That already happened quite a lot - without an apparent effect - but at some point maybe there is a threshold
Well, I've shared the news with everyone who's liked my page and on my friends list. I gave them a warning to stay away.
He thinks he's being clever, but with over 2000 likes, only 4 people are praising his return? If we posted en-masse in all the GW groups on FB, he'd be ruined.
I was going over his Facebook page and it is completely clear that the whole new activity is undeniably connected to today's Games Day UK.
Nothing for months, and bang! Today a flurry of activity of reposting all available pictures (from other places) about the new Forge World products. Spaced in between statements like this:
Daniel is doing EXACTLY what he did before. He cashes in on general excitement about GD and the new minis. Just this time he didn't claim to go there personally and has the minis shipped instead - apparently he learned from the HH weekender debacle.
Again: he said he is about to be evicted. Ferrus Manus comes at 55 pounds per piece. Who pays for that???
WOW This Place blew up. I had a lot of catching up to do and I am still not caught up completely though BUT I will Make some statements here for the Masses.
I think it has been proved I am a true person and I have a very good reputation in the Table top community. If anyone has any questions as to who I am or what I do and where I live I will gladly address them Via PM here or on my Facebook page.
I was contacted BY PHONE by the person I know as Daniel Mandelbaum this past week. He discussed options to open his store Resin Forge to start doing business again. Our discussion was on several topics But I gave my advice as to what to do and how to deal with allegations of misconduct. My advice to Daniel was to Open your shop, run your business legit and to address ANY unhappy customers Quickly AND efficiently. This advice is nothing New or Special as it is how you run ANY business. This is not a surprise to anyone I hope.
As for the Dakka community demanding things of a company, this is the way business is done. Customers are the backbone of any business and it is the customers right to know who the give their business to and who they dont. It IS also the right of the business to state what they are willing to release to the public as far as Information. Its one of those "take it or leave it" type things. If you dont like the business or the way they are run you can take your business elsewhere. Its the BUSINESS that attracts customers and it will not succeed if it runs off all of its customer base though.
I do not personally know Daniel Mandelbaum, Alan Weston, Kim, Steph, Jason, Michael, or anyone else who is or is not connected to this Company legally or allegedly. I AM taking steps to have a personal friend (yet to be determined) to personally meet Face to face with Daniel to discuss some business I have with him from a few years ago before our communication was broken. This is Personal business that was interrupted and we need to clear up and has nothing to do with his resin forge store or anything else he is doing. I will state again Daniel has Yet to scam me personally and no one has supplied evidence to me that they have been scammed by him. He is Just like any other person I meet or do business with currently and will be that way until such time something changes.
Now I am not taking anyones side, as I do not have all the facts. I do not know what the bird video is and have never seen any video of Daniel or his company. I am and shall remain neutral until the weight of facts push me to one side or the other. I take a very strong stance against scams and thieves. BUT I have to know that there is something going on before I jump to conclusions.
I still have yet to post on any other thread but this one BUT I hope that will change soon as I have some projects I am working on and Some you will more than recognize, BUT as far as Resin forge goes I will bee keeping an eye on it as I encourage everyone here to do. BUT I also encourage honesty and integrity from all persons, Resin Forge and customers alike. If he runs his business Legit and works hard at building a good reputation Why should he NOT be allowed to conduct business??
88 pages that just can't be made up. Harassment at work, paramilitary lawyers with fake websites, bat gak crazy bird lady. I may go back and read it all just to have a laugh at how DM handled things.
I honestly feel he doesn't even deserve a chance at redemption here.
I do not personally know Daniel Mandelbaum, Alan Weston, Kim, Steph, Jason, Michael, or anyone else who is or is not connected to this Company legally or allegedly. I AM taking steps to have a personal friend (yet to be determined) to personally meet Face to face with Daniel to discuss some business I have with him from a few years ago before our communication was broken.
1.) Did you try to meet Daniel in the past? You say you didn't meet him yet, but considering what you are talking about sounds like serious business - did you try to meet him?
2.) Do you know where Daniel lives? This is again connected to that "serious business" you mentioned.
I am trying to work out some points and would appreciate honest answers, thanks.
munkey joe wrote: WOW This Place blew up. I had a lot of catching up to do and I am still not caught up completely though BUT I will Make some statements here for the Masses.
I think it has been proved I am a true person and I have a very good reputation in the Table top community. If anyone has any questions as to who I am or what I do and where I live I will gladly address them Via PM here or on my Facebook page.
I was contacted BY PHONE by the person I know as Daniel Mandelbaum this past week. He discussed options to open his store Resin Forge to start doing business again. Our discussion was on several topics But I gave my advice as to what to do and how to deal with allegations of misconduct. My advice to Daniel was to Open your shop, run your business legit and to address ANY unhappy customers Quickly AND efficiently. This advice is nothing New or Special as it is how you run ANY business. This is not a surprise to anyone I hope.
As for the Dakka community demanding things of a company, this is the way business is done. Customers are the backbone of any business and it is the customers right to know who the give their business to and who they dont. It IS also the right of the business to state what they are willing to release to the public as far as Information. Its one of those "take it or leave it" type things. If you dont like the business or the way they are run you can take your business elsewhere. Its the BUSINESS that attracts customers and it will not succeed if it runs off all of its customer base though.
I do not personally know Daniel Mandelbaum, Alan Weston, Kim, Steph, Jason, Michael, or anyone else who is or is not connected to this Company legally or allegedly. I AM taking steps to have a personal friend (yet to be determined) to personally meet Face to face with Daniel to discuss some business I have with him from a few years ago before our communication was broken. This is Personal business that was interrupted and we need to clear up and has nothing to do with his resin forge store or anything else he is doing. I will state again Daniel has Yet to scam me personally and no one has supplied evidence to me that they have been scammed by him. He is Just like any other person I meet or do business with currently and will be that way until such time something changes.
Now I am not taking anyones side, as I do not have all the facts. I do not know what the bird video is and have never seen any video of Daniel or his company. I am and shall remain neutral until the weight of facts push me to one side or the other. I take a very strong stance against scams and thieves. BUT I have to know that there is something going on before I jump to conclusions.
I still have yet to post on any other thread but this one BUT I hope that will change soon as I have some projects I am working on and Some you will more than recognize, BUT as far as Resin forge goes I will bee keeping an eye on it as I encourage everyone here to do. BUT I also encourage honesty and integrity from all persons, Resin Forge and customers alike. If he runs his business Legit and works hard at building a good reputation Why should he NOT be allowed to conduct business??
The only thing I can say to you MJ is watch your side. Your backside. If you go into business with him, well, read the threads. The truth is in front of you.
Things may go great, but at some point he'll self destruct and take anyone he owes with him.
I do not personally know Daniel Mandelbaum, Alan Weston, Kim, Steph, Jason, Michael, or anyone else who is or is not connected to this Company legally or allegedly. I AM taking steps to have a personal friend (yet to be determined) to personally meet Face to face with Daniel to discuss some business I have with him from a few years ago before our communication was broken.
1.) Did you try to meet Daniel in the past? You say you didn't meet him yet, but considering what you are talking about sounds like serious business - did you try to meet him?
2.) Do you know where Daniel lives? This is again connected to that "serious business" you mentioned.
I am trying to work out some points and would appreciate honest answers, thanks.
Ah Yes... I did arrange for him to meet up face to face once but it was about the time communications broke down and I lost touch. NOW some say that is convenient timing Im willing to arrange things again to meet face to face. Its how I like to do things honestly and IMHO if youre going to do business or run a business you need to know someone face to face. Plus Im pretty good at reading people face to face as is the the person Im hoping can meet with Daniel. We shall see though as Daniel did say he was willing to meet my Friend.
I have a address label from when I did make a purchase from Three Stage Studios. He told me he was in the Dallas area and I have Most of my Family there and know Many people in the East Dallas area. I am familiar with the area but do not honestly know where he lives No. Also he may have several addresses in the area if He has Family there. When I go to the area I have 5-6 different places I crash So this is not uncommon for me so I assume it may not be uncommon for someone else. However it IS uncommon for someone living in the area agreed.
And for those interested the "Serious Business" was ideas for product lines and such that I cannot complete without Daniels Consent/input. While we were talking about working together as a team I am not associated with any of his endeavors and he is not in any way associated with my Company. Those talks were in the works for commissioned sculpts and other things that until I paid for the sculpts OR they were released to me for production I cannot do anything with. Ergo I need to talk with Daniel to Close up some of our previous business from some time ago to continue or scap some products for MY company.
As always Im more than happy to discuss things INQ S....
Joe I have to agree. No offence, but the evidence is red-handed and overwhelming. There is zero doubt this man has a history of scamming. He also just got or pretended to be his father and issued a physical threat to me, which I am sure you agree is deplorable. This is after the response to the message you forwarded to me no less. So, please, neutrality is a bit of a stretch at this point if you have looked into things as you say you have.
2 things to bring up for digestion here -
'Michael' (who seems to have the same genetic inability to spell, caplock and swears like a 20 year old street kid, which is impressive for a 50-60 Jewish man) used my mention of Daniel's mother, Susan Beasley, as his excuse for making his threats of physical harm on me. Now, this is impressively idiotic as Daniel himself says he brought her 'into the business' in his previous message just today. That, and he was caught red-handed admitting it was him pretending to be her. Other than saying she was an alias, I would love to know what it is that I or anyone has said about the woman other than it was insanely disrespectful to use her like that. Is that an insult? Lol, I would think it is pretty nice to Susan if anything. So save the indignant crap. You brought her into this, no one has attacked her, we've condemned you for using her to hide yourself. And you do so love hiding.
Next thing, and this is important as has been pointed out by Inquisitor S, Mandelbaum and Resinforge said just yesterday they are re-opening because they are absolutely desperate, have no money and are about to be evicted. They had to sell the stock they had to not turn into hobos. That was the direct reason given. Now, Mandelbaum is advertising FW pre-release stuff and new stock. It doesn't take a genius to figure out either he was lying about being evicted and was trying to manipulate the community (granted, he failed), or he is again selling things he doesn't have in hand, meaning, he is running another ponzi scam.
Be extremely wary. Don't buy from this man or this company. He is and always will be a filthy liar and cheat.
asking for a second chance, starting with a clean slate, is hard enough...
asking for a sixth chance is a bit of a stretch...
this guy's behavior has been despicable for years...
YEARS!!!
now, Daniel wants everyone to act like he wasn't stealing from the community...
not going to happen...
and yet, despite wanting to start clean, his first move is to post adds for product he just said he had no money to buy the day before!!!
still shady...
i hate to say it, but in my opinion, Daniel should no longer have the right to participate in this community...
12 years of doing people wrong is enough...
buyer beware, indeed...
Behold his newest alias, a derivative of the Sharfromjawz RF admin account he was using to bait and insult people like Inquisitor S while pulling the old 'I don't have anything to do with Daniel Mandelbaum' card.
Note the likes, including 'La Petite Gamine', which was an alias of his and Stephakims.
Also not he has been using this account to announce RF's re-opening on various FB pages but not mentioning he is Daniel Mandelbaum from Resinforge.
Par for the course. Get rid of this clown if you see him posting in your groups. It's not some dupe or innocently ignorant person, it's the devil himself, DM.
I notice that despite in excess of 2200 likes, and a big announcement like reopening mere hours ago, Facebook currently has a grand total of 2 people talking about Resin Forge.
I guess purchased bot account likes ain't that chatty...
In the last couple days, hes become an active member of this facebook group, "A Fansite for Gamesworkshop". In fact, hes the reason I joined Dakka Dakka.
First, a couple days ago "Alan Welson" shared a post by Black Crusade Studios, which made mention of "Khorne Hounds" being put into production soon with pictures to follow shortly.
Now a "Daniel Mandelbaum" has shared a photo of "his" Sons of Horus Command.
Lol I think it's been made abundantly clear what those 2200 likes are worth. I think 4/2200 represents the overall ratio of people in the community who haven't heard of this clown by now as well coincidentally.
Apparently, he seems to think using the name 'Daniel Charlie Frank' is the same as saying 'Daniel Mandelbaum' when posting ads for RF. He is very upset that I said he wasn't admitting it was Daniel Mandelbaum... LOL. Incredible intellect this one, his logic is about as good as his spelling and grammar.
So he has his Daniel Mandelbaum account, but uses Daniel Charlie Frank to advertise RF too... He can't help himself, must have at least 1 alias going at all times, even when he is using his own name and saying the same thing on the other one! This guy has more issues than rolling stone...
If Mandelbaum is short of cash and needs it quickly, he could sell his bits collection to a bits seller. He could have a deal done in a day or two, the money in his pocket and the stock out of his cellar.
Joshua Pinder
Community vigilance against criminals = harassment?
Daniel Mandelbaum
People think they can hrass me all day and get away with it? I dare you daka fools to take me on.
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Ray A. Smith Jr. An explanation for those not in the know?
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Joshua Pinder See here.
"The History of Daniel Mandelbaum in the wargaming community".
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/538614.page "WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY. Black Crusade Studio Scam. Mandelbaum to reopen Resinforge".
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/548621.page The History of Daniel Mandelbaum in the Wargaming Community: Be Informed and Careful - Forum -...
www.dakkadakka.com
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Allan Begolo-Wyatt Oh, not this again...
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Adam Gabriel Mitchell Allan you know things like this will constantly do laps. this is why we just learn to ignore it
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Will Blackheart A pathological liar and thief vs a pack of mangey howler monkeys. I hope the whole lot of them fall into a fire.
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Daniel Charlie Frank That isnt my account people. Someone made it to post pics i had already posted. Then they call out dakka to start a fight. Ive alreayd reported it and sent facebook a copy of my DL and will be filing a police report tomorrow as per facebook policy.
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Daniel Charlie Frank And yep, resin forge is open. Show me one person who was scammed. Oh wait, no one can. so seriously STOP. Samie made it clear to knock this crap off.
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Commissar DokOttober Red How do you know all this? you have been added by Sami like 6 hours ago (just type your name in the members list)...and this is old stuff.
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Joshua Pinder 1. If it isn't your account, then how did you find this post so quickly? I only posted it an hour ago, and did not tag you. Funnily enough, I was just reading on Dakka Dakka that Daniel Charlie Frank is one of Daniel Mandelbaums suspected aliases, and Lo and behold! Here you are.
2. Your use of multiple aliases and pseudonyms, threats of violence, threats of legal action via bogus law firms, and multiple business fronts are well documented.
3. Sami has made NO public announcement in the last couple days that I have seen (since "Alan Welson" at Black Crusade Studios began advertising a model which he does not own and which would be in breach of GW IP anyway). Furthermore, I contacted Sami a couple days ago to inform her of the allegations against you stretching back over the last decade, and got no response, though "Alan Welson"'s post appears to have disappeared so I can only assume that it was removed by a mod or by yourself.
Until Sami Lynn makes an appearance and confirms your statement, I can only assume that your remark about her making it clear "to knock this crap off" is an attempt to intimidate me.
4. There are many several examples of people claiming to have been scammed by you, on Dakka Dakka (in the above links), Bartertown and other sites.
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Daniel Charlie Frank my account is this one
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Daniel Charlie Frank the other was created by a dakka member to make it look like i was starting gak with dakka
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Daniel Charlie Frank ask sami, ive been a member here for over a month if not longer
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Daniel Charlie Frank i found it on dakka
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Commissar DokOttober Red bs 8 minutes ago · Like
Daniel Charlie Frank where they said it was me
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Daniel Charlie Frank bs? why would i create an account to post the same pics i already posted here
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Daniel Charlie Frank ask sami before she removes this thread as well
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Daniel Charlie Frank ive also asked sami many times if i should self delete, she has always siad no.
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Daniel Charlie Frank so take your bs elsewhere
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Commissar DokOttober Red Go on, members list, and type your name, it will say you have been added 6/7 hours ago.
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Commissar DokOttober Red so bs to the fact you have been part of this group for more than a month.
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Daniel Charlie Frank that is the fake account dude!
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Commissar DokOttober Red ok.
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Daniel Charlie Frank look up THIS account and see your so wrong its not even funny
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Daniel Charlie Frank MESSAGE SAMI AND ASK
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Elliot Yung I'm assuming DM is replying here but I can't read his posts cause he finally wised up and blocked me, can anyone fill me in?
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Daniel Charlie Frank until then, stop with this bs 5 minutes ago · Like
Commissar DokOttober Red Elliot Yung, not missing much, and I notice that you get blocked by the same "sort" of people don't you? LOL 4 minutes ago · Like
Joshua Pinder I have already contacted Sami and got no response. Until she makes an appearence, we cannot trust your word.
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Elliot Yung yeah, Daniel Mandelbaum slipped up and accepted my friend request for a couple of hours though. Probably forgot that I posted warnings about him on 6 different FB pages
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Daniel Charlie Frank Sami will sort this when she wakes up and removes this thread. Ive talked with her a few times and she has siad i do not need to delete myself from here and ive done nothing wrong to her group. So until then leave me the hell alone.
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Daniel Charlie Frank Joshua Pinder I agree, she should be on here in 10 hours or so
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Joshua Pinder We would have been leaving you alone, if you had not come to this thread to attack us.
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Commissar DokOttober Red when did ya talk to her?
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Daniel Charlie Frank Then all will be solved. This is the 5th thread about me shes removed.
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Joshua Pinder I have seen no public announcements on this matter from Sami Lynn.
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Elliot Yung yeah, Daniel Mandelbaum slipped up and accepted my friend request for a couple of hours though. Probably forgot that I posted warnings about him on 6 different FB pages
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Daniel Charlie Frank Sami will sort this when she wakes up and removes this thread. Ive talked with her a few times and she has siad i do not need to delete myself from here and ive done nothing wrong to her group. So until then leave me the hell alone.
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Daniel Charlie Frank Joshua Pinder I agree, she should be on here in 10 hours or so
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Joshua Pinder We would have been leaving you alone, if you had not come to this thread to attack us.
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Commissar DokOttober Red when did ya talk to her?
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Daniel Charlie Frank Then all will be solved. This is the 5th thread about me shes removed.
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Joshua Pinder The folks at Dakka Dakka (who I am reporting this conversation to so they can update their records) believe that all three are aliases of the same person.
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Joshua Pinder And yes, go ahead and upload screenshots. Who knows, maybe I'll be pleasently surprised. But I still won't be 100% convinced until Sami shows up and confirms the validity of your claims.
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Allan Begolo-Wyatt Adam: The great thing about things like this is I now have admin privvies.
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Allan Begolo-Wyatt Alright guys - if you really need to continue this discussion you may take it elsewhere. I honestly don't care about who started it, or who's right - Sami has asked that this sort of thing not go on here, and I am going to remove it as a result.
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Will Blackheart I would just like to point out for the official record, that you lot are having a sissy slap fight over toy soldiers.
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Allan Begolo-Wyatt This site is for hobby and joy, not petty arguments and finger poking.
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Elliot Yung this site is for the community Allan Begolo-Wyatt. We are trying to enlighten the community about a known fraudster
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Spoiler:
Daniel Mandelbaum
My Sons of Horus command models.
My Sons of Horus command models.
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Wolfrik Stormcaller Daemonslayer Heretically good sir.
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Mark 'Dundee' Dandy Nice. I do love SoH. I need to get round to doing some of my own...
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David Sheridan I have to say, nicely painted, but thought they had been sold, in the whole RF mess, oh and talking about that, maybe you should have a word about "your" dad sending people an email.......... morning major tom. let start by introducing myself. i am M...See More
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Matthew Cairns WTF was that all about??
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Joshua Pinder Credit given where credit is due. DM has balls of steel, showing his face in public like this.
Matthew Cairns
See here.
"The History of Daniel Mandelbaum in the wargaming community".
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/538614.page...See More
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Matthew Cairns Cool, a real life conspiracy!
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Joshua Pinder Is that supposed to be mockery?
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Matthew Cairns On the contrary. I'm at once a cynic and a believer in innocence until proven otherwise, so I find this unfolding story fascinating. I've never heard of Mr Mandelbaum so its as if I just got the inside feed on a news story straight from FB.
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Joshua Pinder There are accusations of criminality against him stretching back over a decade. The fact that he has suddenly popped up on this page, as well as one of his suspected aliases "Alan Welson", advertising Black Crusade Studios, is extremely worrying.
Have a look at the evidence against him and then judge for yourself his guilt or innocence.
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Commissar DokOttober Red People should just ignore his posts.
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Joshua Pinder No they most certainly should NOT. His Modus Operandi is to spread a lot of disinformation, operating multiple business fronts, aliases, pseudonyms, operating through Facebook PM's only instead of a legitimate and above board dedicated store website, a...See More
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Commissar DokOttober Red I know, but its becoming stupid.
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Daniel Charlie Frank THIS IS NOT ME. THIS IS A FAKE ACCOUNT .
Thats from at least a few weeks ago
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Daniel Charlie Frank Mods, and Sami, please remove this or just ban me. Im tired of this. Ive done nothing wrong, and simpy show my work thats not for sale. Why would i post work again that ii posted over a month ago. Why would I make an account on FB to attack dakka. Its bs.
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Adam Mercuri Yeah that looks legit...
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Daniel Charlie Frank Ask Sami smart ass.
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Elliot Yung Can an admin please remove this person?
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Daniel Charlie Frank I swear sometimes people make me wonder how stupid they can be.
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Commissar DokOttober Red you got that right
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Daniel Charlie Frank Once Sami wakes up and removes this thread as well, message her and ask her why i would make 2 accounts here. Especially when her and I get along just fine.
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Daniel Charlie Frank with that im done. Ill wake up and see this thread removed and most likely another message from Sami sayin gshe will make this stop. Shes wanred you people countless times even with banning if it doesnt stop. It clearly isnt stopping.
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Daniel Charlie Frank Goodnight and I do hope you sleep well. No sarcasim.
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Commissar DokOttober Red I remember an Alan Welson member used to write very similar things.
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Joshua Pinder As I expected, that screenshot is not credible. I know Sami's face, because she uses it as an Avatar and it is not visible in that screenshot.
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Commissar DokOttober Red Photoshop...not as hard to use as people might think...
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Adam Mercuri Why DO you have two accounts here? And a third extolling your virtues and purporting to be someone else? I honestly couldn't give a gak what you've done or haven't done but from an outside perspective it looks highly suspicious.
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Elliot Yung considering he has never got round to photoshopping a credible face for himself or one of his alias...
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Daniel Charlie Frank Let me make one thing clear. When sami wakes up she will vouch for it. I dont give a gak if you rthink its real or not. It matters nothing to me anymore. She will see it, remove the thread and then possibly message you to say the screen shot is real. Until then piss the hell off.
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Daniel Charlie Frank I HAVE ONE ACCOUNT
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Daniel Charlie Frank the other was created today by some donkey-cave from dakka.
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Daniel Charlie Frank Im going to sleep now, when i awake the thread will be gone and you guys will see how wrong you are. Night night.
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Adam Mercuri I do also find it interesting that you keep referring back to the page owner as your referee, someone who is probably awake (given she lives in Australia and it's 3pm here) and don't actually try and defend yourself. Except with a photoshopped and highly suspicious "conversation". If you really dont care about what is said on here, why dont you just remove yourself instead of crying out for an admin to remove you?.
Daniel Charlie Frank Daniel Charlie Frank Because the admin told me no need to delete myself and that she would remove threads like this because they are not what she wants in HEr group.
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Joshua Pinder Didn't you just say you were leaving?
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Daniel Charlie Frank yea im closing the computer down, we can continue this tomorrow. oh wait the thread will be gone.
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Joshua Pinder Au revoir. Bon voyage.
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Daniel Charlie Frank You too
Just when I think its over, Daniel Mandelbaum returns.
This follows directly from the previous conversation.
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Joshua Pinder New comment from Daniel in 3...2...1...
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Joshua Pinder Thats a relief.
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Daniel Mandelbaum Don't worry, I'm still here. Sami will bakc me up. You fools know nothing
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Joshua Pinder So you just confirmed that you and Daniel Charlie Frank are one and the same person. Thankyou.
Elliot Yung fools? you just confirmed beyond doubt that 'Daniel Charlie Frank' is an alias of yours. Thanks mate! By the way, do please come up with a more feasible alias, makes things more interesting. I mean, 'Daniel Charlie Frank'? Seriously? Its like you took the first 3 names you could think of and jumbled them together. Oh wait, thats exactly what you did. Derp.
Commissar DokOttober Red is this an episode of Doctor Who?
Commissar DokOttober Red Joshua Pinder, are you screen shooting this and posting on dakka (I hope)
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Joshua Pinder I'm copying and pasting the entire conversation, not screenshotting as I don't have the time.
At this point, I think hes just trolling. It could even be a different person altogether unconnected to Daniel Mandelbaum and co. and is just winding us all up...Maybe theres a troll board on 4chan with a bunch of trolls all having a chuckle at our expense.
I'm sure it's a twisted game for Mandelbaum. I wouldn't worry about his finances, he's managed for years living with relatives while running online scams, while worth thousands I don't believe he was subsisting entirely upon them. He should go out and get honest work, maybe he does and this rubbish is his hobby.
I really don't think anyone who isn't directly owned money by him should be talking to him, don't try to 'mediate', don't enter into correspondence. Once you establish that an account is one of his, there little to be gained from continued conversation. IMO. There are several people who thought they are cleverer than everyone else and can manage Mandelbaum, who can look for the evidence, put the past behind him and sort it all out and somehow run a business or website with him. He's simply a cheat. Talk to people left picking up the pieces after his other projects like Wargame Miniatures Conversions. He always has his supporters and those who think they can mediate on his behalf... it seems to feed his ego and play out a silly game. Munkey Joe is just the latest and will lured in just enough to be used as a shield for Mandelbaum and will be hit by all the splatter when it goes wrong.
Why does Munkey Joe need Mandelbaum to work with? Even if he were to deliver the goods, there are other people who can build and convert models, people who don't have a history of fabricating stories and disappearing with people's money. How can you seriously enter into business with some you a) don't know where they live and b) have never met?
The point of the conversation was not to establish that it was Daniel Mandelbaum (I already recognised the usernames) but to make it clear to everyone else who he was.
I'd already pm'd one Admin (the owner) a few days ago about him and got no response (though Alan Welsons post was apparently removed). And the conversations above shows that a few people were sceptical about the allegations (if they were aware of them at all) and some were dismissive about it, including one of the mods. Calling it a silly hissy fit over toy soldiers, eye poking etc.
As if warning people about a serial scammer who's defrauded numerous people over the last decade is just some silly trivial immature argument.
I'm done with it now. I've made a song and dance about it, drawn attention to his scam and tried to convince the mods that he is untrustworthy and should be banned from posting in the group. If they're unwilling to take action, thats on them.
Two things i have spotted from the return of the waste of oxygen
1) If DM and his "Dad " and "Alan " and this latest alias "Charlie " are not the same person why do you all refer to members of Dakka as Donkey Caves up until the last few months i had heard exactly one person use that turn of phrase and then lo four separate people who claim to be different people all seem to use the same insult . Hmmm maybe its a really common insult and i just managed to miss it being used
2 Quick quiz who's is talking here ? " Mods delete/ban me if you want i'm tired of this Gak i just came to show some photos of my work that aren't for sale " if you said Alan Welson have a cookie! but if you said Charlie Daniels Frank or, Kim Hernandez you can also have a cookie as that is the exact same line all three of them have used in the last 6 months on various thread and pages (always in the middle of the pathetic attempt to to claim they are not related to DM )
so we either have a mystery worthy of the X-Files can 4,5 even 6 people have the same speech/text syntax and grammar mistakes (which they use to argue on behalf of a "Mysterious " third party ) in a strange clone/ pod person way or well.........i think we know the real truth here don't we Dan
So this morning at work i will not be doing my usual Monday routine (Coffee.Paper, peruse a GW order you know fun things i like to do ) i'm going to have to sit down make sure that i have all the spellings correct of all your fething alias's and then talk to Wintermute at Warseer to make sure that every one of them has been repoted as you ! So thanks a lot Dan thanks for ruining my Monday
Daniel Charlie Frank publicly admitting he is Daniel Mandelbaum:
The "about" section by the way is new. Just another smokescreen pretending he was "legit" all the time. also the address given is the one for 3 Stage Studios if I am not mistaken.
Why does Munkey Joe need Mandelbaum to work with? Even if he were to deliver the goods, there are other people who can build and convert models, people who don't have a history of fabricating stories and disappearing with people's money. How can you seriously enter into business with some you a) don't know where they live and b) have never met?
I'm not sure about this but Tommy is a good guy. I've had a few conversations with him via PM and facebook, and he is really good friends with a few of my great friends like Meg Maples.
As for DM and FFGW, hm joined the group a month ago? Hey wait, isn't that when Alan Welson joined facebook and that group? What a strange coincidence that he joined at the same time as Alan but his account says he joined the group 8 hours ago.
Over the last 3 days I've received 8 phone calls from his "Dads" number.
So after making my last post, I stepped out of the room to photograph some minis and returned to my phone to this.
Then as I screen capped and uploaded it to photobucket it turned into this.
It is my experience that people, shall we say, of a..low intellect? are often unable to conceive of the possibility that others can see through their deceptions, as from their perspective they think they are being incredibly clever. When someone more mentally nimble tears their craftily constructed web to pieces, it can come as a genuine shock.
Couple this with DM's apparent inability to learn from his experiences and total failure to keep track of his past doings (which I don't blame him for, frankly you'd need a small administrative team cross checking everything for conflicts to do this considering the amount of gak he's pulled!) and you really have to wonder why he thinks he's qualified to do what he does?
Still, at least it makes it simpler for those in the Dakka tower* to keep track of you hey Daniel? God knows how much harder this would be if you were any way competent at it?
I am disappointed that Sami continues to foster an environment that allows his activity, but at least while its a safe harbour, it's somewhere we know to keep an eye. As has been established, it is her right to run her page as she sees fit, it's just disappointing that not everyone is pulling in the same direction in this.
*you've seen the Dakka tower right Daniel? It's that big black building with the giant reptilian, red eye on top. The eye that watches. Every. Single. Thing. You. Do.
From what I can tell from back tracing the number it is a broadband line. So yes more than likely it is a google/skype number. I've blocked it now so it can't keep calling me! lol
From what I can tell from back tracing the number it is a broadband line. So yes more than likely it is a google/skype number. I've blocked it now so it can't keep calling me! lol
So, he tried calling you 15 times at 230AM?! Jesus...
What is this guy's problem? I mean, I've dealt with scammers before, but this guy just takes the cake...
Unfortunately it's on my Facebook page and website so most people can easily find it. But clients know better than harassing artists at 2am!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Unfortunately it's on my Facebook page and website so most people can easily find it. But clients know better than harassing artists at 2am!
I highly suggest anyone being phone harassed by this guy to take out a restraining order at this point. Also, let me know if you are a victim and I will put you in touch with others to cross reference your cases, should add more weight with the cops. Death threats, aliases and phone harassment... That's how you run a business on the up and up in DM world... In 1 day no less!
Go to town Daniel, there are tons of rock solid proven cases in there. There's your proof, as if you didn't know. We don't need proof that Resin Forge did anything, (although there is tons of proof of lying and scamming there too, where are those registration #'s with the other names on them and where is that proof you went to the HH weekender?) we only need proof you are involved at all. You are the problem. You have the long, long history. You are untrustworthy at best. It doesn't matter what company you operate out of, if you are in it, it's a problem. Get it through your thick head.
On a sidenote, Daniel is claiming the Daniel Mandelbaum account on facebook isn't him. You know what? I am kinda sorta inclined to believe him... that account has been far too restrained, not compulsively and immediately answering back. Also, he is using his Daniel Charlie Frank alias and thinking that is transparent, which is more typically idiotic logic. Now, the problem I have, is he is saying someone on 'Dakka' is the one who created the Mandelbaum account.
Really Daniel? Based on what? Which of the 60000+ members or hundreds of thousands of forum goers is it? Is it that guy Brad? Brad the Dakka guy? What basis do you have for that? You bitch and whine about seeing proof you are a scammer, a dump truck of proof is upended on your head and you pretend it didn't happen... but when it comes to you, you can say anything you like and have absolutely zero evidence to back it up. You really can't connect the double standard or how it makes you look even dumber can you? Just like making up death threats from 'Dakka' and crying about it then turning around and doing the same to me while pretending to be your father, which I have in writing. Do you think throwing the same accusations you are under at other people will make you look good? Or that anyone is going to fall for anything you do anymore?
Gimme a break.
Guys, make sure you call his local PD to let them know about the harassment as well as your own local departments as well.
Guys, make sure you call his local PD to let them know about the harassment as well as your own local departments as well.
Looks like I'll have to be doing this real soon.
For some strange reason, "Daniel Mandelbaum" and now "Michael Mandelbaum" have been calling my house.
I believe in this very thread, I've already stated that I consider ANY attempt to contact me as harassment.
There is nothing I can do for "Daniel", nor is there anything I want to do for "Daniel".
And now "Michael" is calling my house AND my work, and is making not so subtle threats to me?
ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.
I've said it before, but apparently it needs to be said again:
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.
I've already blocked every number I know of that they use to contact me - so really, if you're trying to find ways around that? Pretty sure that will qualify as stalking/harassment.
Especially as I've already told them to NOT contact me at all.
The very next time "Daniel Mandelbaum" or "Michael Mandelbaum" or anyone at all associated with either of them does so, I will contact their local Police Department and file a harassment complaint against them.
I do not want to ever hear from them again.
I also do not want to hear from anyone on their behalf.
No relatives, friends, business associates, customers, ex-wives, ex-girlfriends, current wives, current girlfriends, doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists, pharmacists, etc.
In short: NO ONE.
So again, the very next phone call I get from them, any of them, will result in me calling their local Police Department along with my local Police Department.
The next step after that will then be getting the ball rolling on a Civil Harassment Order.
Civil Harassment Orders
CHOs may be filed against a person with whom you do not have a specific relationship. This may include:
A person you don't know who is stalking, harassing, committing violence, or threatening to do these to you and/or your children.
A person you know, but with whom you are not in a close relationship, who is stalking, harassing, committing violence, or threatening to do these to you and/or your children.
If for some strange reason, "Daniel" isn't reading this thread, if anyone in contact with them or "Resin Forge" wants to forward this on to them, that will be fine.
But THAT IS IT.
I consider myself ALL DONE with "Daniel" and company, and want NOTHING further to do with him. EVER.
I really, really, REALLY hope that is all clear enough now?
The very next time "Daniel Mandelbaum" or "Michael Mandelbaum" or anyone at all associated with either of them does so, I will contact their local Police Department and file a harassment complaint against them.
Don't wait, do it now. He will never stop if he always knows there is a "until next time" warning. Any and all direct communication is doomed to fail as we all know by now. That's is why, Daniel Charlie Lovebird or whatever your name is now, any and all direct and indirect contact attempts will never be answered privately but only publicly. And we all know how much you love that when everybody sees how deranged you actually are.
Exactly. This clown can email me directly, or post on one of his many aliases walls on FB, he doesn't need his intermediaries, and he doesn't need to call people. He is just so nuts he can't understand why no one believes him about anything anymore. He doesn't get why he didn't get a free pass because he asked for it. He doesn't understand how ResinForge is considered a pile of garbage tarnished by his involvement beyond all redemption. He doesn't understand that at this point, any business he tries to pull in this community will rot in his hands before it gets off the ground because HE is the thing no one wants to deal with.
None of us want anything from you Daniel. You have nothing to offer. Nothing. The only thing you are doing is setting yourself up for legal actions to be taken, and you know what? I'm all for that. I don't think any of the people being harassed and stalked need to wait for anything at this point, just do it together, and call his local PD as well individually.
The very next time "Daniel Mandelbaum" or "Michael Mandelbaum" or anyone at all associated with either of them does so, I will contact their local Police Department and file a harassment complaint against them.
Don't wait, do it now. He will never stop if he always knows there is a "until next time" warning. Any and all direct communication is doomed to fail as we all know by now. That's is why, Daniel Charlie Lovebird or whatever your name is now, any and all direct and indirect contact attempts will never be answered privately but only publicly. And we all know how much you love that when everybody sees how deranged you actually are.
I have done my best to stay out of this whole mess, but this is the best advice possible.
Don't issue ultimatums instead report the harassment immediately. Not just to local law enforcement, but to your phone/internet provider and federal law enforcement as well. Bring the hammer down on him.
The very next time "Daniel Mandelbaum" or "Michael Mandelbaum" or anyone at all associated with either of them does so, I will contact their local Police Department and file a harassment complaint against them.
Don't wait, do it now. He will never stop if he always knows there is a "until next time" warning. Any and all direct communication is doomed to fail as we all know by now. That's is why, Daniel Charlie Lovebird or whatever your name is now, any and all direct and indirect contact attempts will never be answered privately but only publicly. And we all know how much you love that when everybody sees how deranged you actually are.
I have done my best to stay out of this whole mess, but this is the best advice possible.
Don't issue ultimatums instead report the harassment immediately. Not just to local law enforcement, but to your phone/internet provider and federal law enforcement as well. Bring the hammer down on him.
Alpharius, if nothing else has ever stuck, this should. Your public statements (and I'd assume private) that you consider any further contact from him as harassment, and his continued harassment of you should be a clear enough case. The only thing that makes people as cynical as Daniel stop and think is consequences. Even if it isn't consequences for what we'd like (his alleged fraud), something is better than nothing. Get it rolling.
EDIT: I know my words come cheap, not being involved or in your situation, but I've had to deal with an individual like this before. A restraining order and a judge telling them to their face that one more phone call means jail time is a strong statement that you can't make alone.
Agreed, to use an in thread example, if I were Aj and received 15 calls in just as many minutes and it wasn't an emergency, I would be on the phone with my local PD as well as the local PD of the place the person is calling from, verizon, and anyone else connected to my telecommunication services getting that number blocked and getting harassment charges filled toot sweet.
Alph, there's no reason to take even one more call from this jerkwad.
The very next time "Daniel Mandelbaum" or "Michael Mandelbaum" or anyone at all associated with either of them does so, I will contact their local Police Department and file a harassment complaint against them.
Don't wait, do it now. He will never stop if he always knows there is a "until next time" warning. Any and all direct communication is doomed to fail as we all know by now. That's is why, Daniel Charlie Lovebird or whatever your name is now, any and all direct and indirect contact attempts will never be answered privately but only publicly. And we all know how much you love that when everybody sees how deranged you actually are.
I have done my best to stay out of this whole mess, but this is the best advice possible.
Don't issue ultimatums instead report the harassment immediately. Not just to local law enforcement, but to your phone/internet provider and federal law enforcement as well. Bring the hammer down on him.
Do not tolerate even one more call from this guy. Drop the hammer. This can end now.
I think we are close to an endgame here. We have a united community response and a plethora of information. This guy has no where to go now.
I think we are close to an endgame here. We have a united community response and a plethora of information. This guy has no where to go now.
There is no endgame. Don't stylize this into some kind of glorious battle. This is plain and simple a mentally deranged stalker. The only way these people stop is when they are locked up. Daniel will never go away, but he will be hurt for each transgression of restraining orders.
To me the key thing for anyone to understand, is that whether or not you believe he is a thief (which as mentioned, is beyond doubt to anyone who bothers to read the decade long evidence and the multitude of aliases and terrible businesses) is that if you give him your information, any of it, and if you then have anything to say about him, he will hound and stalk you, in the middle of the night, at work, wherever.
So, if you buy from this guy, and he screws you over, or delivers late, or anything of that nature, and you complain or say anything about it, he will harass the hell out of you. Potentially for years. That is ongoing, happening right now, I can personally attest to it as can dozens of others. There are voice recordings, emails, the works.
Why would anyone risk that kind of crap for a bits order they can get anywhere. All the risk is on the customer. It is an absolutely obscene mistake to deal with this guy, ever. Don't do it people. It's like playing russian roulette to win a half empty milk carton, risk vs reward makes absolutely no sense at all.
Why does Munkey Joe need Mandelbaum to work with? Even if he were to deliver the goods, there are other people who can build and convert models, people who don't have a history of fabricating stories and disappearing with people's money. How can you seriously enter into business with some you a) don't know where they live and b) have never met?
I'm not sure about this but Tommy is a good guy. I've had a few conversations with him via PM and facebook, and he is really good friends with a few of my great friends like Meg Maples.
Exiled Thanks for saying nice things. I feel I am a good guy. And Treesong, I DO NOT need Daniel. I have a sculptor and I can contract more. What I DO want is truth and to close an open contract on existing products that I have. And It seems I am getting More truth than wrap up....
I would like to thank EVERYONE who is PMing me here and on facebook with links and pictures or misconduct. While It is taking some time to work through them all (88 Pages.... really??) Some serious questions are coming to the forefront. Questions I will have to get someone to answer. Digging deeper it seems Is what I was needing all along and now that I am being fed multiple sites and sources its overwhelming. BUT I will continue to soldier through it as I am after one thing, the truth.
Daniel, I know you will read this and I will contact you via Facebook But we have some issues to discuss sir. I said "I will always shoot you straight, and All I ask is the same" you agreed, but I have some questions about it. I'll contact you soon after I have everything prepared for our discussion.
Agreed, to use an in thread example, if I were Aj and received 15 calls in just as many minutes and it wasn't an emergency, I would be on the phone with my local PD as well as the local PD of the place the person is calling from, verizon, and anyone else connected to my telecommunication services getting that number blocked and getting harassment charges filled toot sweet.
Alph, there's no reason to take even one more call from this jerkwad.
Agreed - you've told him before, and he didn't listen. He is unlikely to listen this time.
For those who are being harassed by repeated threatening phone calls and voicemails, please report it to your local police and give them the following information. It will be Very easy for them to follow up on:
They can simply type "Daniel Mandelbaum" onto this page, and it will bring up 2 past criminal charges. He was acquitted on the assault charges, but convicted on drug possession:
I have also attached to this message a PDF of a complaint with incident number that Daniel filed about "disturbing posts on the internet" in May with his local police. This lists an incident number, Daniel's address, and a number for the officer involved. It should be very easy for them to get in touch with the Dallas PD regarding him using this.
Note that the address should read "McCallum Blvd". The "Blvd" was left off on the report attached below.
Hope this helps, guys. With the above link to his past conviction, and the attached report that he filed himself, it should be more than enough info for your local police to contact his police and make the harassment stop.
@AJ:
Google (which operates Google Voice where the numbers harassing you belong to) keeps the connection data of all calls for 90 days (NSA 4 Life!). Since Google does not give out user information to private persons, your way is to contact your police department. They will contact Google and receive the connection data. Since we all know where Daniel lives and all these kinds of request are collected in a central database this will be a very short episode of him using Google services to harass people. Effectively it will even cost him his precious mail services Such a clever boy, ain't he *lol*
Or if you prefer you can also just go to Daniel's police department, it's quite close to you. I am sure the officers there will be delighted when they look him up and see what he has been up to
Exiled, see my post above. Using the 2 things above (the link to the Dallas PD website where typing in his name brings up his past conviction, and the attachment to my post above which lists all of his information as he gave it to his local police in May) it will be extremely easy for your local police to contact his police and put a stop to this. It would help others who he is harassing for all of you to report it quickly. So, please file a report.
It should take no more than 30 minutes to do so, and reporting someone for "harassing and threatening phone calls" is common and easy for the police to deal with. But it has to be reported for them to take any action!
ExiledMiniatures wrote: So after making my last post, I stepped out of the room to photograph some minis and returned to my phone to this.
Spoiler:
Then as I screen capped and uploaded it to photobucket it turned into this.
I am disappointed that Sami continues to foster an environment that allows his activity, but at least while its a safe harbour, it's somewhere we know to keep an eye. As has been established, it is her right to run her page as she sees fit, it's just disappointing that not everyone is pulling in the same direction in this.
I don't know about that, that may be a little harsh. I pm'd her 3 days ago (friday) when Alan Welson showed up reposting an "Update on the Khorne Hounds" from Black Crusade Studios, giving her a detailed warning about the allegations against Daniel Mandelbaum and "co., with links to several of the threads on Dakka Dakka and the youtube response from the true and rightful owner of the 3d printed Titan.
3 days later I've had no response from her, and I havn't noticed her posting on the page. It may be that shes simply occupied elsewhere and this facebook debacle hasn't yet come to her attention.
DCF has made repeated boasts that Sami will 100% corroborate his story that he is not Daniel M, that Resin Forge is not affiliated with DM, and has threatened me (among others of his critics) with a ban once Sami sees that he's getting "persecuted" again in contravention of her supposed public verdict of "not guilty" (which nobody seems to have seen, and is odd considering he only joined the group 24 hours previously). He's a confident fellow, isn't he.
Several people have also come to his defence, saying hes "innocent until proven guilty", dismissing the threads on Dakka Dakka as a witch hunt.
However, one guy did say that he was falsely accused of being DM, was sent death threats and even a Worm vorus. If this is true then thats rather apalling, doesn't paint Dakka Dakka and co. in a good light and actually lends credence to claims that this is a witch hunt. Can anyone confirm this for me?
Paul Waumsley Sadly I've been accused of being this DM. I work as Sami does 'until proven guilty', I don't have accounts on any forums apart from The Waaagh & FoD yet I've had hate mail from Dakka, Warseer, 40k & so on. Some very nice person went so far as to shoot me a worm virus! All because I said leave it to the artists to sort amongst themselves. I don't know the full history could someone post a list of account names for this individual, I've read James links.
Paul Waumsley Sadly I've been accused of being this DM. I work as Sami does 'until proven guilty', I don't have accounts on any forums apart from The Waaagh & FoD yet I've had hate mail from Dakka, Warseer, 40k & so on. Some very nice person went so far as to shoot me a worm virus! All because I said leave it to the artists to sort amongst themselves. I don't know the full history could someone post a list of account names for this individual, I've read James links.
If this is true then its rather apalling, doesn't paint Dakka Dakka and co. in a good light and actually lends credence to claims that this is a witch hunt.
So he can boast whatever he wants, he publicly ackonowledged he is Mandelbaum. And that's it.
Well we can then assume that A & B Cleaning is Michael's business since he's the registered owner for the office it runs out of. So Daniel lists daddy's work as his own. That office is also just .5 miles from their house on McCallum.
Paul Waumsley Sadly I've been accused of being this DM. I work as Sami does 'until proven guilty', I don't have accounts on any forums apart from The Waaagh & FoD yet I've had hate mail from Dakka, Warseer, 40k & so on. Some very nice person went so far as to shoot me a worm virus! All because I said leave it to the artists to sort amongst themselves. I don't know the full history could someone post a list of account names for this individual, I've read James links.
If this is true then its rather apalling, doesn't paint Dakka Dakka and co. in a good light and actually lends credence to claims that this is a witch hunt.
How can you get hate mail from Dakka if you don't have a dakka account?
AFAIK only a few people have @dakkadakka.com email accounts, and certainly none of them would be sending such things.
With the exceptions of Yakface and Legoburner, no one can represent DAKKA as a site. And Yakface, who owns the site, has said he has no position on this topic.
If this is true then its rather apalling, doesn't paint Dakka Dakka and co. in a good light and actually lends credence to claims that this is a witch hunt.
Despite his claims he did not provide any instances that he was identified by or on Dakka as Daniel. So I call BS.
Paul Waumsley Sadly I've been accused of being this DM. I work as Sami does 'until proven guilty', I don't have accounts on any forums apart from The Waaagh & FoD yet I've had hate mail from Dakka, Warseer, 40k & so on. Some very nice person went so far as to shoot me a worm virus! All because I said leave it to the artists to sort amongst themselves. I don't know the full history could someone post a list of account names for this individual, I've read James links.
If this is true then its rather apalling, doesn't paint Dakka Dakka and co. in a good light and actually lends credence to claims that this is a witch hunt.
It certainly doesn't. Though, to be clear, there is no 'Dakka Dakka' involved in this. The owners made their position clear and are out of it. Everyone here is posting as members, as well as on tons of other sites and blogs. You can't say Verizon is endorsing anything or part of it just because people are talking on their Cel phones. The same goes for Dakka.
That being said, I personally, and most people who post here, by a large degree, have NEVER and would never endorse illegal action or consequences on anyone, even Mandelbaum himself. I strongly condemn anyone harrassing Sami or anyone else, and certainly doubly so if it is in the name of 'Dakka' or the community. It's been said a million times, and it bears repeating. I would love to see Mandelbaum face consequences for his actions, but ONLY from legal and duly appointed representatives of the law. It is not our job to punish this guy. I am all for protecting the community, and to some that may be deemed 'punishing', but there is a big bloody difference between that and going after anyone physically, digitally or otherwise. I will not sit idly by and invite a robber into my home. But that doesn't mean I get to chase him back to his place and break into it either.
Don't sink to his level. Don't harass anyone. Keep Mandelbaum outside the gates yes, but do it the right way.
As to these claims that "Sami" (does anybody actually confirm that she is a real person?) backs up "Daniel Charlie Frank", Sami will be highly interested that Daniel Charlie Frank walks around faking and tampering with her messages (see also two pages before post by Shadow Captain EdithaeMade).
That's from DCF's account:
Notice the really shoddy attempt at tampering, but it's Daniel, he's too dumb for proper photoshopping.
Here's the original message as grabbed before (duuhhhuuu Daniel):
Which conclusively shows (just to drive it in, it was already stated before) that:
a) Sami Lynn communicated with "Alan" (Welson) not with "Daniel Charlie Frank"
b) Daniel Charlie Frank fakes messages from Sami Lynn to create credibility
c) Daniel Charlie Frank has access to the private message of "Alan" (Welson) -> proving that Daniel Mandelbaum was behind Black Crusade Studios, as we claimed.
Yup, I was just about to post that, beat me to it!
So there you go, public proof of what I said at the beginning, Daniel Mandelbaum = Alan Welson, Black Crusade Studios = Resin Forge. All of the above = scam.
I think we are close to an endgame here. We have a united community response and a plethora of information. This guy has no where to go now.
There is no endgame. Don't stylize this into some kind of glorious battle. This is plain and simple a mentally deranged stalker. The only way these people stop is when they are locked up. Daniel will never go away, but he will be hurt for each transgression of restraining orders.
Isn't that the point? It's clear this guy is breaking the law and is a blight on the community, so when it gets to the point that the community stops sending this guy any sort of support, isn't that an "endgame"?
I understand he is mentally deranged and might be dangerous, but when he can't try any of his antics without them being immediately called out, isn't that it? The community already seems to be putting such an infrastructure together, and it will require much vigilance, but it seems like we might have a tiny bit of resolution.
I am disappointed that Sami continues to foster an environment that allows his activity, but at least while its a safe harbour, it's somewhere we know to keep an eye. As has been established, it is her right to run her page as she sees fit, it's just disappointing that not everyone is pulling in the same direction in this.
I don't know about that, that may be a little harsh. I pm'd her 3 days ago (friday) when Alan Welson showed up reposting an "Update on the Khorne Hounds" from Black Crusade Studios, giving her a detailed warning about the allegations against Daniel Mandelbaum and "co., with links to several of the threads on Dakka Dakka and the youtube response from the true and rightful owner of the 3d printed Titan.
3 days later I've had no response from her, and I havn't noticed her posting on the page. It may be that shes simply occupied elsewhere and this facebook debacle hasn't yet come to her attention.
You're new, so won't recall her previous Ostrich Strategy a few weeks ago when the Alan Welson/BCS stuff blew up. At this point in time there is no doubt that she is aware of the situation and simply cannot/will not/does not want to deal with it.
Guys can we please focus, just for a second, on the fact that he is now publicly busted as Alan Welson and not what Sami did a month ago? Maybe someone wants to bring to her attention she has been used and manipulated exactly in the manner we warned her of?
Meanwhile, on the Fansite for Gamesworkshop page I'm sworn at and called a ranting old woman who should get a fething spine, because apparently I'm getting in the way of pretty pictures of Space Marines. And then another member accuses me of "screaming". Funny that. I've not been making insults. About the rudest thing I've said is "Fine. You clearly don't give a gak that a known and prolific scammer is frequenting this page, so I'll leave it at that". Isn't the internet wonderful?
how about you saddos just go make a group OR get a fething spine and do something other than rant and rave like a bunch of old women about it
The posts by Daniel Mandelbaum and co. are still up, and they are still members.
MajorTom11 wrote: Guys can we please focus, just for a second, on the fact that he is now publicly busted as Alan Welson and not what Sami did a month ago? Maybe someone wants to bring to her attention she has been used and manipulated exactly in the manner we warned her of?
Wait, didn't we know before that Alan Welson was DM?
MajorTom11 wrote: Guys can we please focus, just for a second, on the fact that he is now publicly busted as Alan Welson and not what Sami did a month ago? Maybe someone wants to bring to her attention she has been used and manipulated exactly in the manner we warned her of?
I pm'd her 3 days ago, still no response. And someone else has already posted the screen caps asking Sami if she realises that shes been used. As of now theres a 60 comment argument going back and forth, with one side saying they got the message, DM is a scammer but they don't care they just want to see more pictures of models instead of seeing Warnings about the scammer operating in the group constantly popping up in their newsfeed.
MajorTom11 wrote: Guys can we please focus, just for a second, on the fact that he is now publicly busted as Alan Welson and not what Sami did a month ago? Maybe someone wants to bring to her attention she has been used and manipulated exactly in the manner we warned her of?
Wait, didn't we know before that Alan Welson was DM?
we knew, but no one, especially Alan was admitting he was Daniel. We now have public proof that Alan is Dan, which corroborates evidence said in this thread since page 1 or 2.
I did, there were some doubters out there on my word alone, understandably. Now there is point blank public evidence supplied Alandelbaum himself, so let's make sure anyone who doubted knows that we were spot on, again, and again, Mandelbaum put on a despicable display up to and including threats of suicide of his fictional alias to make the community look bad.
All those people looking for hard in your face evidence on this particular alias now have what they should need, so make sure if you see them out there to point to that specific post.
I understood right off the bat that just like with Resin Forge before it, outting Mandelbaum without saying how I knew would leave some people understandably neutral in the interest of objective fairness. But that time is over. There it is, in black and white.
For you and me it doesn't really change anything. But there are a lot of folks out there those screenshots will be game-changers for.
Sami is IIRC from Oz, possibly a real person with real life needs like sleep and social engagements (unlike Danial who can be on 23/7) that might possibly keep her from facebook for days at a time...
Patience please before you start calling people names like "sockpuppet"....
Inquisitor S. wrote: As to these claims that "Sami" (does anybody actually confirm that she is a real person?) backs up "Daniel Charlie Frank", Sami will be highly interested that Daniel Charlie Frank walks around faking and tampering with her messages (see also two pages before post by Shadow Captain EdithaeMade).
That's from DCF's account:
Notice the really shoddy attempt at tampering, but it's Daniel, he's too dumb for proper photoshopping.
Here's the original message as grabbed before (duuhhhuuu Daniel):
Which conclusively shows (just to drive it in, it was already stated before) that:
a) Sami Lynn communicated with "Alan" (Welson) not with "Daniel Charlie Frank"
b) Daniel Charlie Frank fakes messages from Sami Lynn to create credibility
c) Daniel Charlie Frank has access to the private message of "Alan" (Welson) -> proving that Daniel Mandelbaum was behind Black Crusade Studios, as we claimed.
Also this, for anyone who is being harassed by Daniel with phone calls. Please file with your police, with the below information and the police report attached to this post, it should take something like 30 minutes. Easy, and will put a stop to his making harassing / threatening phone calls to various people:
For those who are being harassed by repeated threatening phone calls and voicemails, please report it to your local police and give them the following information. It will be Very easy for them to follow up on:
They can simply type "Daniel Mandelbaum" onto this page, and it will bring up 2 past criminal charges. He was acquitted on the assault charges, but convicted on drug possession:
I have also attached to this message a PDF of a complaint with incident number that Daniel filed about "disturbing posts on the internet" in May with his local police. This lists an incident number, Daniel's address, and a number for the officer involved. It should be very easy for them to get in touch with the Dallas PD regarding him using this.
Note that the address should read "McCallum Blvd". The "Blvd" was left off on the report attached below.
Hope this helps, guys. With the above link to his past conviction, and the attached report that he filed himself, it should be more than enough info for your local police to contact his police and make the harassment stop.
I've tried, I really have, but to no avail. I'll not stop posting about DM as I honestly believe he should be exposed no matter what.
I fully expect to be banned from AFSAGW by the end of the night due to my questioning.
They can simply type "Daniel Mandelbaum" onto this page, and it will bring up 2 past criminal charges. He was acquitted on the assault charges, but convicted on drug possession:
So we can actually state Daniel Keaton Mandelbaum is a convicted criminal. Oh my, that's really good for somebody with a "business", oh wait, there's still no registration...
Crap, this ones really kicking off isnt it.
How the hell does he keep in operation? There must be enough evidence for atleast 6 or 7 cases to be brought against him?
master of ordinance wrote: Crap, this ones really kicking off isnt it.
How the hell does he keep in operation? There must be enough evidence for atleast 6 or 7 cases to be brought against him?
multiple low value cases brought to the police never work. Now if EVERYONE pooled together and tried to bring forward one single thought out and detailed charge then it might be a different story
They can simply type "Daniel Mandelbaum" onto this page, and it will bring up 2 past criminal charges. He was acquitted on the assault charges, but convicted on drug possession:
So we can actually state Daniel Keaton Mandelbaum is a convicted criminal. Oh my, that's really good for somebody with a "business", oh wait, there's still no registration...
He pled guilty to a very minor charge that is nothing to do with fraud, so I don't think it is relevant.
There can't be many of us with completely clean consciences, when all is told.
Paul Waumsley Sadly I've been accused of being this DM. I work as Sami does 'until proven guilty', I don't have accounts on any forums apart from The Waaagh & FoD yet I've had hate mail from Dakka, Warseer, 40k & so on. Some very nice person went so far as to shoot me a worm virus! All because I said leave it to the artists to sort amongst themselves. I don't know the full history could someone post a list of account names for this individual, I've read James links.
If this is true then its rather apalling, doesn't paint Dakka Dakka and co. in a good light and actually lends credence to claims that this is a witch hunt.
If individual users of DakkaDakka have sent hate mail, that is something they did outside of the forum. The forum proprietors and moderators deplore that action but have no control over it. Speaking with my Mod hat on, we certainly do not encourage it.
Anyone with internet access can create a GMail account, use it to create a Facebook account and use that to put messages on Sami's or on Mandelbaum's Facebook page. Mandelbaum could do it himself.
Anyone can send a message and say they are a member of DakkaDakka or another forum. It doesn't prove anything.
I wonder if this new revival is him calling out a bluff to those against him. Consider all the hype that Resin Forge got; now granted it basically shut RF down; however nothing actually happened. He had bad publicity but really nothing more.
Even when he phones and harasses people nothing really ever gets back to actually bite him. As a result he likely thinks he can keep going; keep running the site and no matter the publicity he can keep trying to snare one or two people here and there. If he keeps up with some honest trades during those times he could start to rebuild again - kept up for long enough he could rebuild a minor reputation and the longer that went on the more "rabid" those against him would seem.
I think he's twigged that the police appear not interested in him; heck the only police action thus far (that I can recall reading) has been the actions he took out himself with the police. So from his point of view it could seem that those against him are all breath and no action; and with no ability to actually cause trouble for him he's likely feeling fairly strong in his position. Sure he's got the bad publicity side; but he doesn't need mass market; just a handful of customers.
RF relaunching could also be a smokescreen, but considering how he's apparently getting back into personal insults and phoning people up again I don't think he's the time or the real inclination to be starting another site or project at the moment.
However, he has now provoked several people into making police complaints against him for harassment, and his police record, home address and father's business address have been made public. They were all in the public domain already, but had not been previously been mentioned on DakkaDakka. He has also been caught out in another set of identity lies.
All in all, if this is intended merely to provide Mandelbaum with trolling jollies, he may have stirred up too much of a hornet's nest.
Kilkrazy wrote: Anyone can send a message and say they are a member of DakkaDakka or another forum. It doesn't prove anything.
More specifically, and as pointed out by Major Tom, someone sending a message and saying they are a member of DakkaDakka is not the same thing as receiving a message from DakkaDakka, just as talking to someone in a shopping mall food court is not the same thing as talking to the management of the shopping centre. DakkaDakka is a venue, not a collective hive mind. If someone has received emails from someone who frequents Dakka, then they have received emails from someone who posts on Dakka, not from Dakka.
Although I would point out that someone sending hatemail is unlikely to introduce themselves as 'Bob from Dakka'... And multiple people from multiple forums introducing themselves in that fashion is even more unlikely. Which leads me to wonder if 'Paul Waumsley' has an agenda of some kind, or is just assuming that the 'hatemail' he claims to have received is coming from people on those multiple forums.
Overread wrote: I think he's twigged that the police appear not interested in him; heck the only police action thus far (that I can recall reading) has been the actions he took out himself with the police. So from his point of view it could seem that those against him are all breath and no action; and with no ability to actually cause trouble for him he's likely feeling fairly strong in his position. Sure he's got the bad publicity side; but he doesn't need mass market; just a handful of customers.
This part, I agree with. Which is why I made the post above for anyone he is harassing over the phone to easily give his information to the police. The police actually do care and act in these instances. You just have to give them a chance to do so, which means reporting it. There is absolutely zero downside to doing so, and quite a large upside... ie, a restraining order against Daniel Mandelbaum so that if he calls you again he really will be in trouble with the law.
It would be helpful to everyone if those who he is harassing would report it to their local police.
I noticed that two of my friends who are active painters / bloggers had been 'friended' by DCF today - warned them both of his antics - they're both really nice people who didn't realise that DCf was Mandlebonder.
Yet again he tries to legitimise his scams by using the reputation of others.
I noticed that two of my friends who are active painters / bloggers had been 'friended' by DCF today - warned them both of his antics - they're both really nice people who didn't realise that DCf was Mandlebonder.
Yet again he tries to legitimise his scams by using the reputation of others.
Was Khazadpainting one of them?
@those alleged Hatemails from Dakka:
Guys (and girls), we are talking about DANIEL MANDELBAUM here. He has already claimed hate mails so often, he has claimed death threats, he has even accused me personally of single-handedly make the webpage of his lawyer consultants disappear from the Internet within a matter of hours. WITHOUT ONCE PROVIDING A SINGLE SCRAP OF BACKUP EVIDENCE! He's Mandelbaum, get over it, there were no hate mails. And if NOW (after I mention it) he will suddenly come up with a "proof email" chances are extremely high that he just typed it himself (as happened previously.
Heck, you should all expect very soon that I am accused of hacking his bank accounts and using his credit cards or social security number to actually impersonate him because I "hate Jews"! You know it happened before.
Hey guys I just got up for the day. Long wekend at Clash for a Cure (Took a bronze )
I will be filing with the Dallas PD. I wanted to check out a game store in Dallas today or tomorrow anyway so conveniently I will already be out there.
Since I don't have a printer, I have put the PDF and screen caps onto a flash drive which I will take with me as well as my phone with the log of calls from DM.
I will file a restraining order and possibly harassment charges. We'll see. My roommates buddy is an officer at the Dallas PD, so I'll be contacting him as well.
I noticed that two of my friends who are active painters / bloggers had been 'friended' by DCF today - warned them both of his antics - they're both really nice people who didn't realise that DCf was Mandlebonder.
Yet again he tries to legitimise his scams by using the reputation of others.
Was Khazadpainting one of them?.
Yeah, Em's really cool - was horrified to find out who he was. She's nothing to do with this and would rather leave it that way.
Daniel - LEAVE EMILY ALONE. You want to mess with anyone, MESS WITH ME. I'm the one who warned Em, ME. She has NOTHING to do with this - I tipped her off. LEAVE HER ALONE.
I went into this whole thread with a 'popcorn' feel. When I heard he was pretending to be other people, I chuckled. When I heard he scammed people out of money, I went "...well that sucks." Then I got to the point where he was impersonating his mother, the cancer thing, and... wow. No more popcorn. Now I'm seeing all the actual 'real world' harassment he's doing. Trying to get someone fired? What the hell?
From an outsider's perspective, saying "This guy is pretending to make fake toy soldiers" is a lot different than "This man has sent me physical threats and harassed my employer in an attempt to get me fired." When you're talking to someone that hasn't delved into the whole story (and delving is a good word for the depth that all this goes), linking a thread that at first brush seems like it'll be full of hearsay and conspiracy theories doesn't do it justice. Put out the nasty stuff right away and people will take it more seriously.
I really hope this guy gets what's coming to him from the legal system. Sorry the people posting here had to go through some of that $*#$.
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Also, if anyone is actually sending him hate mail, you're just fueling the fire. To the people that are collecting actual evidence in the form of phone logs and threatening e-mails, I wish you the best of luck and would help if there's a way. I've not been personally involved in any of this though, and have no useful info to add in terms of procedures or where to go and what to get and the like.
AJ - after the crap he's thrown around tonight, please please PLEASE go to the cops - he needs to be told that he can't just harass people at whim without consequence.
They can simply type "Daniel Mandelbaum" onto this page, and it will bring up 2 past criminal charges. He was acquitted on the assault charges, but convicted on drug possession:
Perhaps, but the VAST majority of us manage to NOT get convicted of crimes....
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Like Michael Mandelbaum.
I'm not wanting people to take this the wrong way, but given some of the intemperant language contained within these threads and within the screen captured exchanges from Facebook et al, people might want to consider how the police will view things. As has been mentioned this is a matter of toy soldiers to them, and when addresses and telephone numbers get published online (which may or may not have in the past/or perhaps in the future lead to unfortunate actions), they might well not see matters in the way as those who feel justifiably outraged.
It should also be noted that there has been unfortunate language used with regard to issues of mental health. And while I take on board the whole free speech thing, the world is a big place and some of the comments may well be seen as hate speech and viewed in a criminal light - which may not have consequences for those making the remarks but may well have implications for the publisher.
I do not believe that Dakka has published his address or phone # though? A link to a public police report is a link to info released by the authorities, not a release of our own.
Dakka has not allowed his phone # or address to be posted to my knowledge. If we have missed anything please alert the offending post.
I keep seeing people asking for the business registration number, but does he really need one? He's not running a physical storefront that people come to, AFAIK. He's just selling stuff from his house. I mean, unless I'm totally missing something, that would mean that everyone that sells stuff on eBay would need to get their business registered.
Not trying to defend him, but I'm honestly just a little confused.
Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: I keep seeing people asking for the business registration number, but does he really need one? He's not running a physical storefront that people come to, AFAIK. He's just selling stuff from his house. I mean, unless I'm totally missing something, that would mean that everyone that sells stuff on eBay would need to get their business registered.
Not trying to defend him, but I'm honestly just a little confused.
~Tim?
This came up in the last thread, businesses that are legal businesses that pay taxes on their sales must have a registered business number that is on display at their place of business. If they are an online only business, then they must at least have it on file at their residence.
Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: I keep seeing people asking for the business registration number, but does he really need one? He's not running a physical storefront that people come to, AFAIK. He's just selling stuff from his house. I mean, unless I'm totally missing something, that would mean that everyone that sells stuff on eBay would need to get their business registered.
Not trying to defend him, but I'm honestly just a little confused.
~Tim?
This came up in the last thread, businesses that are legal businesses that pay taxes on their sales must have a registered business that is on display at their place of business. If they are an online only business, then they must at least have it on file at their residence.
Weird. A ton of people I know sell stuff online/do commission work, pay all the taxes they need to, and have even asked the people in charge of all of this, and they've never been told to register/had any legal trouble. Maybe it just works differently in MO?
Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: I keep seeing people asking for the business registration number, but does he really need one? He's not running a physical storefront that people come to, AFAIK. He's just selling stuff from his house. I mean, unless I'm totally missing something, that would mean that everyone that sells stuff on eBay would need to get their business registered.
Not trying to defend him, but I'm honestly just a little confused.
~Tim?
he doesn't appear to be under 12 years old, and he certainly doesn't seem to be vending lemonade, so, i'm pretty sure he needs a license to operate a business....
there is a bit of a distinction between doing it on your own, and claiming things and doing it as a business. Doing it as a buisness gives you the benefit of "isolating" you from the market. If your business goes bankrupt, it doesn't mean your own self with everything you own gets dragged into it as well, so if you do it that way, yeah, you'd need a business license. Commision work is pretty easy to do, and very hard to screw up. Your only real cost is time, and most people do it under the table to earn a couple bucks. Once you hit BTP level of comission service..... business license.
Alfndrate wrote: This came up in the last thread, businesses that are legal businesses that pay taxes on their sales must have a registered business number that is on display at their place of business. If they are an online only business, then they must at least have it on file at their residence.
That, and weren't Resin Forge representing themselves as an LLC? Kind of hard to be an LLC without some sort of registration...
rather than just throw something like this online has anyone reported the guy? When you file the complaint, you will need to support the claim so make sure you have back up showing that you were taken by the guy. If a lot of people file legit complaints, he won't be in business. He will be in jail.
Alfndrate wrote: This came up in the last thread, businesses that are legal businesses that pay taxes on their sales must have a registered business number that is on display at their place of business. If they are an online only business, then they must at least have it on file at their residence.
That, and weren't Resin Forge representing themselves as an LLC? Kind of hard to be an LLC without some sort of registration...
MajorTom11 wrote:He is obligated in Texas. It is from state to state, but he is obligated in texas.
Thanks guys, I had a feeling I was forgetting a few things.
boyd wrote: rather than just throw something like this online has anyone reported the guy? When you file the complaint, you will need to support the claim so make sure you have back up showing that you were taken by the guy. If a lot of people file legit complaints, he won't be in business. He will be in jail.
They've got bigger fish to fry than a guy in a niche hobby selling some toy soldiers. You can report him, but unless it's easy to convict him, I doubt the government would want to spend time on something so small.
boyd wrote: rather than just throw something like this online has anyone reported the guy? When you file the complaint, you will need to support the claim so make sure you have back up showing that you were taken by the guy. If a lot of people file legit complaints, he won't be in business. He will be in jail.
They've got bigger fish to fry than a guy in a niche hobby selling some toy soldiers. You can report him, but unless it's easy to convict him, I doubt the government would want to spend time on something so small.
~Tim?
seconded. I could make an anecdotal reference, but the auditor is forced to look at only what's required by law/regulation. It doesn't matter to the auditor if they clearly and visibly see that there's something wrong afoot, and that the auditor should intervene for the benefit of the public, the obligation to look at a narrow set of facts means that often, a party running a shady gig can get off the hook without repercussions.
boyd wrote: rather than just throw something like this online has anyone reported the guy? When you file the complaint, you will need to support the claim so make sure you have back up showing that you were taken by the guy. If a lot of people file legit complaints, he won't be in business. He will be in jail.
They've got bigger fish to fry than a guy in a niche hobby selling some toy soldiers. You can report him, but unless it's easy to convict him, I doubt the government would want to spend time on something so small.
~Tim?
And if you read somewhere back in one of the Tomes of Mandelbaum, we all filed Ic3, District Attorney reports and local pd reports. To no avail.
Now that he's making threats.... he 's biting off more than he's bargaining for I'd wager. The Police will be all over that.
Alfndrate wrote: This came up in the last thread, businesses that are legal businesses that pay taxes on their sales must have a registered business number that is on display at their place of business. If they are an online only business, then they must at least have it on file at their residence.
That, and weren't Resin Forge representing themselves as an LLC? Kind of hard to be an LLC without some sort of registration...
Yes. The Texas Business & Commerce Code sections 71.201, 71.202 provide for civil and criminal penalties for noncompliance with the assumed name provisions of Chapter 71.
It's inevitable, and understandable, that new people will come in and ask
1. Did you think of reporting him to XY or Z
2. He could do X Y or Z to hide, get away with, etc
3. Be devil's advocates, neutral parties etc.
I get it... but it is exhausting at times... 3-4 years into this mess and with 100's of pages in many, many threads... most things have been gone over and then gone over again. And then again lol.
In any case, at the end of the day it is up to actual victims to come forward in order for anything to happen. They have to be persistent, and, preferably, they have to be together.
Fortunately, he has provided ample reason in the past few days for quite a few people to report him to the Police for harassment and stalking both at home and at work. He says we stalk him... we just keep an eye out for his scams and he always pops up. He looks for peoples personal information and wants to mess with their lives in ways that have absolutely nothing to do with minis, just because he is a spiteful little troll and nothing more.
He is a guy who you catch trying to break into your car to steal it red-handed, and then he yells at YOU for interrupting him lol. Then he says you set him up. Then he starts crying or calls his dad. Then he suddenly stops crying and starts making conversation with you completely ignoring he got caught trying to steal your car, and acting very puzzled or changing the subject if you mention it. Then he gets angry and demand you prove it that he tried to steal your car. Then he threatens to call the police because you are harassing him. All while he is still in your driveway sat in the drivers seat of your car with a handful of wires.
That is Mandelbaum. You can't make this crap up lol.
Alfndrate wrote: This came up in the last thread, businesses that are legal businesses that pay taxes on their sales must have a registered business number that is on display at their place of business. If they are an online only business, then they must at least have it on file at their residence.
That, and weren't Resin Forge representing themselves as an LLC? Kind of hard to be an LLC without some sort of registration...
Yes. The Texas Business & Commerce Code sections 71.201, 71.202 provide for civil and criminal penalties for noncompliance with the assumed name provisions of Chapter 71.
boyd wrote: rather than just throw something like this online has anyone reported the guy? When you file the complaint, you will need to support the claim so make sure you have back up showing that you were taken by the guy. If a lot of people file legit complaints, he won't be in business. He will be in jail.
They've got bigger fish to fry than a guy in a niche hobby selling some toy soldiers. You can report him, but unless it's easy to convict him, I doubt the government would want to spend time on something so small.
~Tim?
And if you read somewhere back in one of the Tomes of Mandelbaum, we all filed Ic3, District Attorney reports and local pd reports. To no avail.
Now that he's making threats.... he 's biting off more than he's bargaining for I'd wager. The Police will be all over that.
File the complaints. The next time he sends a cease and desist letter you have a filed complaint and can refer his lawyer to the complaint and contact the Police and FBI to look into it because he is threatening legal action. It would give you more room to stand on. I don't care one way or the other - I wasn't taken by the guy so I have no dog in the fight.
Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote: I keep seeing people asking for the business registration number, but does he really need one? He's not running a physical storefront that people come to, AFAIK. He's just selling stuff from his house. I mean, unless I'm totally missing something, that would mean that everyone that sells stuff on eBay would need to get their business registered.
Not trying to defend him, but I'm honestly just a little confused.
~Tim?
he doesn't appear to be under 12 years old, and he certainly doesn't seem to be vending lemonade, so, i'm pretty sure he needs a license to operate a business....
there is a bit of a distinction between doing it on your own, and claiming things and doing it as a business. Doing it as a buisness gives you the benefit of "isolating" you from the market. If your business goes bankrupt, it doesn't mean your own self with everything you own gets dragged into it as well, so if you do it that way, yeah, you'd need a business license. Commision work is pretty easy to do, and very hard to screw up. Your only real cost is time, and most people do it under the table to earn a couple bucks. Once you hit BTP level of comission service..... business license.
its state by state but every state has a division of corporations. I know in florida you can look up any business name and find out the owners (www.sunbiz.org). I'm sure Texas has something similar, I just don't want to take the time to do it because its not that important to me. I'd rather gaze at the new dark elves elsewhere on the forums
Alfndrate wrote: This came up in the last thread, businesses that are legal businesses that pay taxes on their sales must have a registered business number that is on display at their place of business. If they are an online only business, then they must at least have it on file at their residence.
That, and weren't Resin Forge representing themselves as an LLC? Kind of hard to be an LLC without some sort of registration...
Yes. The Texas Business & Commerce Code sections 71.201, 71.202 provide for civil and criminal penalties for noncompliance with the assumed name provisions of Chapter 71.
Stop using those big school words around me. More normal people words means = more better.
~Tim?
Actually thats copy paste from the Texas Division of Corporations - the question is, "I am using an assumed name, but I have not made the proper filings at the state or county levels. Are there any penalties?"
Another thing I wanted to get off my chest while it was on my mind... sometimes I find we ourselves kinda accept 'ha ha toy soldiers/not serious' as something understandable on the authorities part. Toy soldiers has nothing to do with it... it's a tiny, and ultimately inconsequential footnote in the story of the problem.
If I was someone he was calling at home or at work, I would do everything I could to leave the product out of it.
I would tell the cops, listen, forget the window dressing of the setting, and hear me 100% clearly. This guy is harassing my family and my work place. He is making threats. He is calling at all hours and changing his numbers. I don't care if it all started at a barbie doll convention, I am under siege by a stalker here and you guys need to start taking this guy seriously, mark my words, he is not right and getting worse, and I want him out of my life. Now I would like to hear a very, very serious response about what I can do about this, it has been years and it is now urgent.
Don't let them be dismissive of it. Don't even bother with the 'toy soldiers' bit, tell them it was in the context of 'very expensive military models'. Even then, to me, that should come up once with the cop, and everything else should be focused on the very real harassment and stalking. The models are completely irrelevant to that right?
Maybe the people who have called have already been super forceful in exactly the way I describe... I just can't imagine they will dismiss the new reports as easily as the fraud ones...
boyd wrote: rather than just throw something like this online has anyone reported the guy? When you file the complaint, you will need to support the claim so make sure you have back up showing that you were taken by the guy. If a lot of people file legit complaints, he won't be in business. He will be in jail.
They've got bigger fish to fry than a guy in a niche hobby selling some toy soldiers. You can report him, but unless it's easy to convict him, I doubt the government would want to spend time on something so small.
~Tim?
seconded. I could make an anecdotal reference, but the auditor is forced to look at only what's required by law/regulation. It doesn't matter to the auditor if they clearly and visibly see that there's something wrong afoot, and that the auditor should intervene for the benefit of the public, the obligation to look at a narrow set of facts means that often, a party running a shady gig can get off the hook without repercussions.
Don't give me and my ilk a bad name. Some of my best friends are auditors too. Although we typcially look for things that are out of place that would indicate a problem... especially low hanging fruit if the guy was that easy to pin.
HEADS UP GUYS
as of 20 mins ago the Daniel Mandelbaum FB account posted a photo on the Fansite page. WHen you click on the photo, you can see its a Resin Forge post linked there. SO I think this concludes beyond doubt that it IS in fact him
He's back at it on the Facebook group again, claiming Sami has his back... Ugh, I really wish he'd stop speaking for people... especially when he's only been in the group for only 24 hours as Daniel Mandelbaum/DCF
SO, my posts on the Fansite page have been deleted by one of the admins, for the following reasons:
Allan Begolo-Wyatt
Hi Elliot.
I am aware there is somethin a little fishy going on with the two Daniels who have appeared on the page.
They appear to be trolling rather hard. But would you do me a favour and not react to it? It's fuelling the fire, and at the moment I'm not about to ban them straight away yet
Because I haven't heard from Sami yet you see
If she genuinely wants the guy on the page that's her own perogative.
I'm trying very hard to get her to realise it's most likely someone just trying to stir gak. But in the mean time if you can let the gak slide a little, the dill weed will spend less time polluting our page with gak.
SO basically I think they simply don't quite understand what they are dealing with....
HEADS UP GUYS
as of 20 mins ago the Daniel Mandelbaum FB account posted a photo on the Fansite page. WHen you click on the photo, you can see its a Resin Forge post linked there. SO I think this concludes beyond doubt that it IS in fact him
That is no proof. If I understood correctly what you wanted to say. If I link to a post it doesn't mean I am the page.
this is the full conversation i've had with an admin on the page
Allan Begolo-Wyatt
Hi Elliot.
I am aware there is somethin a little fishy going on with the two Daniels who have appeared on the page.
They appear to be trolling rather hard. But would you do me a favour and not react to it? It's fuelling the fire, and at the moment I'm not about to ban them straight away yet
Because I haven't heard from Sami yet you see
If she genuinely wants the guy on the page that's her own perogative.
I'm trying very hard to get her to realise it's most likely someone just trying to stir gak. But in the mean time if you can let the gak slide a little, the dill weed will spend less time polluting our page with gak.
3:22pm
Elliot Yung
its not someone stiring gak. THis is a known scammer who ran several ponzi schemes that left people out of money and models. Its not trolling, you need to understand this. Its criminal activity. I'm not reacting to it, I'm trying to spread awareness amongst the community so that no more innocent people get hurt by him.
3:23pm
Elliot Yung
have you read the links on Dakka?
3:58pm
Allan Begolo-Wyatt
No, I'm talking about the accounts. Even if they are genuinely him they are just there to stir gak.
He's not promoting his resin forge site, he's just posting pictures. I don't think it's him, I think it's someone pretending to be him to stir gak, perhaps even it is actually gin stirring gak. Whatever it is, actively responding to it is just encouraging the fether.
4:21pm
Elliot Yung
It is him
Follows his usual modus operandi to a tee, in addition the pictures he posts are from RF, proving that he is running it
4:40pm
Allan Begolo-Wyatt
I just assumed that he was reposting stuff from the resin forge site to drum up chaos
The two fake looking accounts don't even have Resin Forge as a liked page
I also fail to see the point of the posts, as most of them don't link to Resin Forge
Just use it's photos
5:17pm
Allan Begolo-Wyatt
feth man
Anyone could post that on a fake page
There's no formal link
Please stop with the posts about the guy
Sami has been informed, but she's not at the computer at the moment. Please quit it, I've asked nicely.
Honestly, it's not Sami's fault, and no one can speak for her because she hasn't been online recently. But putting everything in public view is the WRONG way to do things on that facebook page. Trust me.
All of this just feeds into DM's ego. If we're careful and tact with our approach we might just get our way...
Anyone can post pictures, or link to pages on Facebook. The fact that he has posted a link to Resin Forge doesn't prove that this account isn't just someone else stirring up gak.
MajorTom11 wrote: It's inevitable, and understandable, that new people will come in and ask
1. Did you think of reporting him to XY or Z
2. He could do X Y or Z to hide, get away with, etc
3. Be devil's advocates, neutral parties etc.
I get it...
And so do I, hence why I am not playing devil's advocate, but rather urging caution especially as the police are involved, and especially as counter claims of harassment have already been made.
Someone at some point on samis page is going to get done over by DM and they could blame her for not fixing it. Surely at some point sami needs to see sense
Luke from The Sound of Machines here. Was notified of this issue and the fact that this person/people have liked our page. I've just gone through and blocked - regardless of if there is concrete evidence or not, we don't want to have these people associated with us or our work. Blocking now to avoid problems in the future; in my experience, drama tends to follow the same people around so heading that off now.
Look, um, if anyone sees any other aliases that we should be on the look out for, please let us know - we'd really appreciate it. We're too busy colouring in to be across this type of "thing".
Cheers guys, all the best with this issue for those who have been affected.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
@This whole Sami/ Facebook group thing: it's irrelevant. You should have realized by now that Daniel enjoys being able to spread his poison in places where the moderators let him. What he really hates is places like this that he can not control and manipulate. Everybody by now knows that Daniel and his aliases have irrevocably attached the rotten stink of trouble and rather sooner than later he will be confined to his own Facebook page as that will be the only one left where he can control posts.
So it's really not worth the effort to bother with why other people don't ban him or not, just stick to Daniel, that's the one spreading the bad smell in the community. Also you should never get down to his parrot-like screeching, people take you most seriously if you are matter of fact
Well he has to sleep at some point - but yeah this whole setup seems insane, even by his own general standards. That said maybe its all fallen apart and he's just in it for the trolling now, make some profit if he can, but otherwise is just in it to annoy "Dakka" and have this thread continue.
The other thought is that he's smoke'screening - hoping that by whipping up a storm on RF and other sites he can continue with a new website alongside somewhere else.
The final thought is that he might have a fair few "customers" stringing him along to encourage him to keep trading even though they are not intending to purchase ever. This last point might be why he's more keen to keep RF alive since he thinks he has potential customers. Downside is that the more it prolongs and the more he doesn't actually scam anyone direct the weaker Dakka's position appears and the greater the chance that someone new or unaware actually does make purchase (which, for many good reasons already explained, is a risky venture).
Luke from The Sound of Machines here. Was notified of this issue and the fact that this person/people have liked our page. I've just gone through and blocked - regardless of if there is concrete evidence or not, we don't want to have these people associated with us or our work. Blocking now to avoid problems in the future; in my experience, drama tends to follow the same people around so heading that off now.
Look, um, if anyone sees any other aliases that we should be on the look out for, please let us know - we'd really appreciate it. We're too busy colouring in to be across this type of "thing".
Cheers guys, all the best with this issue for those who have been affected.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
I realize that this is coincidence BUT I am not associated in ANY way with Alan Welson other than him posting stuff to me on Facebook. He has gone away it seems, so there is that. NOW as far as Daniel Mandelbaum goes he is still communicating with me, for now, And I am still sifting through pages and pages of stuff to make MY opinion of the situation. I am going through 100s of pages of Opinion, screenshots, testimony, and anything else that is on the web from about 20-30 sources and people. Its a Lot. NOW The one part of "evidence" that seems VERY damning to Daniel is possibly the Photo of the conversation with Sami. Daniel swears this is a conspiracy and the picture is photshopped. I have joined the "a fansite for Games Workshop" page and will try to contact Sami to clear things up. I honestly think she is the ONLY one who can tell me who she sent the message to. If she says she sent it to Daniel.... Well that makes it null and someone is photoshopping pics to set him up, as he claims. If she sent it to Alan...... Well that is a coffin nail. ONLY SAMI can clear this.
As far as Being banned from Sound of Machines..... Well I understand completely. I have liked the page again as I DO like your work and I am a HUGE Dredd fan (as you seem to be also) and a fan of your work. If you continue to ban me I UNDERSTAND although it is not my wish. I do not wish to be Lumped into with a scammer as I may try to help someones reputation out BUT I also have mine to think of. I have worked on my rep for almost 20 years in the hobby and do not want it tarnished. Most of the community that knows me understands what I am saying but incase you don't know me, I always look for the truth in scandals. its there, always and while "facts" and "Opinions" sometimes don't always tell the story the truth always does. THATS what Im after. And I feel I am getting close....
Overread wrote: Well he has to sleep at some point - but yeah this whole setup seems insane, even by his own general standards. That said maybe its all fallen apart and he's just in it for the trolling now, make some profit if he can, but otherwise is just in it to annoy "Dakka" and have this thread continue.
The other thought is that he's smoke'screening - hoping that by whipping up a storm on RF and other sites he can continue with a new website alongside somewhere else.
The final thought is that he might have a fair few "customers" stringing him along to encourage him to keep trading even though they are not intending to purchase ever. This last point might be why he's more keen to keep RF alive since he thinks he has potential customers. Downside is that the more it prolongs and the more he doesn't actually scam anyone direct the weaker Dakka's position appears and the greater the chance that someone new or unaware actually does make purchase (which, for many good reasons already explained, is a risky venture).
Daniel is up now as he has already sent me some messages. he tried to call me last night but I had gone to bed early as I was needed at my business at 0600 this morning. BUt I will say that Yes he is awake and Yes he is watching.
I read these things so that I can stay on top of what is going on in our hobby, and so that I have some stuff to talk about with some of my friends at the shop.
Occasionally, something will happen that I find genuinely entertaining.
Such as: DM misspelled Dakka in this picture.
I'm not sure who the 'Daka fools' are, but I imagine they must be upset at his insult...
Wow, I just came back to this thread after many pages, but it seems that Mandelbaum has really stepped it up from previous scams...
I hope everyone's ok, and hopefully this mess will get sorted out quickly.
This post was spam. Posting nothing but a joke undermines the seriousness of the topic on top of it. Please refrain from further posting of this nature, thank you - MT11
Luke from The Sound of Machines here. Was notified of this issue and the fact that this person/people have liked our page. I've just gone through and blocked - regardless of if there is concrete evidence or not, we don't want to have these people associated with us or our work. Blocking now to avoid problems in the future; in my experience, drama tends to follow the same people around so heading that off now.
Look, um, if anyone sees any other aliases that we should be on the look out for, please let us know - we'd really appreciate it. We're too busy colouring in to be across this type of "thing".
Cheers guys, all the best with this issue for those who have been affected.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
I realize that this is coincidence BUT I am not associated in ANY way with Alan Welson other than him posting stuff to me on Facebook. He has gone away it seems, so there is that. NOW as far as Daniel Mandelbaum goes he is still communicating with me, for now, And I am still sifting through pages and pages of stuff to make MY opinion of the situation. I am going through 100s of pages of Opinion, screenshots, testimony, and anything else that is on the web from about 20-30 sources and people. Its a Lot. NOW The one part of "evidence" that seems VERY damning to Daniel is possibly the Photo of the conversation with Sami. Daniel swears this is a conspiracy and the picture is photshopped. I have joined the "a fansite for Games Workshop" page and will try to contact Sami to clear things up. I honestly think she is the ONLY one who can tell me who she sent the message to. If she says she sent it to Daniel.... Well that makes it null and someone is photoshopping pics to set him up, as he claims. If she sent it to Alan...... Well that is a coffin nail. ONLY SAMI can clear this.
As far as Being banned from Sound of Machines..... Well I understand completely. I have liked the page again as I DO like your work and I am a HUGE Dredd fan (as you seem to be also) and a fan of your work. If you continue to ban me I UNDERSTAND although it is not my wish. I do not wish to be Lumped into with a scammer as I may try to help someones reputation out BUT I also have mine to think of. I have worked on my rep for almost 20 years in the hobby and do not want it tarnished. Most of the community that knows me understands what I am saying but incase you don't know me, I always look for the truth in scandals. its there, always and while "facts" and "Opinions" sometimes don't always tell the story the truth always does. THATS what Im after. And I feel I am getting close....
Overread wrote: Well he has to sleep at some point - but yeah this whole setup seems insane, even by his own general standards. That said maybe its all fallen apart and he's just in it for the trolling now, make some profit if he can, but otherwise is just in it to annoy "Dakka" and have this thread continue.
The other thought is that he's smoke'screening - hoping that by whipping up a storm on RF and other sites he can continue with a new website alongside somewhere else.
The final thought is that he might have a fair few "customers" stringing him along to encourage him to keep trading even though they are not intending to purchase ever. This last point might be why he's more keen to keep RF alive since he thinks he has potential customers. Downside is that the more it prolongs and the more he doesn't actually scam anyone direct the weaker Dakka's position appears and the greater the chance that someone new or unaware actually does make purchase (which, for many good reasons already explained, is a risky venture).
Daniel is up now as he has already sent me some messages. he tried to call me last night but I had gone to bed early as I was needed at my business at 0600 this morning. BUt I will say that Yes he is awake and Yes he is watching.
I just want to clarify for Sound of Machines, Munkey Joe is not DM, and should not be blocked! It just was a coincidence that it lumped Alan and Joe together for liking the page.
Luke from The Sound of Machines here. Was notified of this issue and the fact that this person/people have liked our page. I've just gone through and blocked - regardless of if there is concrete evidence or not, we don't want to have these people associated with us or our work. Blocking now to avoid problems in the future; in my experience, drama tends to follow the same people around so heading that off now.
Look, um, if anyone sees any other aliases that we should be on the look out for, please let us know - we'd really appreciate it. We're too busy colouring in to be across this type of "thing".
Cheers guys, all the best with this issue for those who have been affected.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
I realize that this is coincidence BUT I am not associated in ANY way with Alan Welson other than him posting stuff to me on Facebook. He has gone away it seems, so there is that. NOW as far as Daniel Mandelbaum goes he is still communicating with me, for now, And I am still sifting through pages and pages of stuff to make MY opinion of the situation. I am going through 100s of pages of Opinion, screenshots, testimony, and anything else that is on the web from about 20-30 sources and people. Its a Lot. NOW The one part of "evidence" that seems VERY damning to Daniel is possibly the Photo of the conversation with Sami. Daniel swears this is a conspiracy and the picture is photshopped. I have joined the "a fansite for Games Workshop" page and will try to contact Sami to clear things up. I honestly think she is the ONLY one who can tell me who she sent the message to. If she says she sent it to Daniel.... Well that makes it null and someone is photoshopping pics to set him up, as he claims. If she sent it to Alan...... Well that is a coffin nail. ONLY SAMI can clear this.
As far as Being banned from Sound of Machines..... Well I understand completely. I have liked the page again as I DO like your work and I am a HUGE Dredd fan (as you seem to be also) and a fan of your work. If you continue to ban me I UNDERSTAND although it is not my wish. I do not wish to be Lumped into with a scammer as I may try to help someones reputation out BUT I also have mine to think of. I have worked on my rep for almost 20 years in the hobby and do not want it tarnished. Most of the community that knows me understands what I am saying but incase you don't know me, I always look for the truth in scandals. its there, always and while "facts" and "Opinions" sometimes don't always tell the story the truth always does. THATS what Im after. And I feel I am getting close....
Overread wrote: Well he has to sleep at some point - but yeah this whole setup seems insane, even by his own general standards. That said maybe its all fallen apart and he's just in it for the trolling now, make some profit if he can, but otherwise is just in it to annoy "Dakka" and have this thread continue.
The other thought is that he's smoke'screening - hoping that by whipping up a storm on RF and other sites he can continue with a new website alongside somewhere else.
The final thought is that he might have a fair few "customers" stringing him along to encourage him to keep trading even though they are not intending to purchase ever. This last point might be why he's more keen to keep RF alive since he thinks he has potential customers. Downside is that the more it prolongs and the more he doesn't actually scam anyone direct the weaker Dakka's position appears and the greater the chance that someone new or unaware actually does make purchase (which, for many good reasons already explained, is a risky venture).
Daniel is up now as he has already sent me some messages. he tried to call me last night but I had gone to bed early as I was needed at my business at 0600 this morning. BUt I will say that Yes he is awake and Yes he is watching.
I just want to clarify for Sound of Machines, Munkey Joe is not DM, and should not be blocked! It just was a coincidence that it lumped Alan and Joe together for liking the page.
The Sound of Machines wrote: Understood, thanks mate. I've unblocked Joe Munkey from the TSOM page, hoping he comes back!
Sorry for the confusion Joe, I just don't want issues mate. Welcome back
No harm no foul Mate..... I COMPLETELY understand. No one wants issues, and Yes Given whats going on you are completly just with your actions.
As for the topic.... I am still doing research and reading. And While this thread seems to revolve around One person, I suggest everyone keep an eye out for Scammers. they Are Literally everywhere it seems.
Honest Hobbyist Horde Hating Horrible Hoaxers Having Hysterics
H8ers
Ok you win this one lol, especially fitting as that is one Alandlestephakimstaronethreestageresinbaum likes to call everyone with an IQ over 24 anyways...
H8ers it is! lol
Now, seriously, let's get back on topic as best we can please... as much of a break from the slogging and exhausting Mandlewatch joking a touch here and there is, especially for those who have been keeping track these last few years, it does make new viewers tend to miss the important, concrete bits.
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