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I see the krazy kids over at BoLS are mentioning everybody's favorite lost race, the Hrud.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/06/40k-rumors-what-tangled-web-we-weave.html

-Will probably be a white dwarf teaser list and then a full codex. Look out for hints in upcoming WD's

-The Umbra WILL be in the army

-There will be at least one vehicle described as a tunneler modified for war (tunneling rules a la trygon perhaps?)

-They have units named/such as Triads, Blades, Shamans, Paths

-They are described as a 'steamroller' type force withe tactic such as 'shoot retreat shoot , ambush'

-Background-wise they are described as an ancient race that are pissed because they lost their homeworld to slaanesh, the umbra are said to be fragments of their God (Q'ah) that was destroyed by Slaanesh. They hate Chaos with a passion.

Hmmm...

They're also saying that there's a high chance this is a false lead planted by someone to cause confusion.

A new race would be great, but I want to see the current 16 codicies supported more.

tetrisphreak wrote:They're also saying that there's a high chance this is a false lead planted by someone to cause confusion.

A new race would be great, but I want to see the current 16 codicies supported more.

Quoted for truth.

And Bell of Lost Souls themselves are saying that they don't really trust it:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/06/40k-rumors-what-tangled-web-we-weave.html

So my friends, so many possibilities with a perfect little gem of a 40K Rumor casestudy sitting in front of us like a Faberge Egg. Do you think we are seeing:



a) Solid rumor with a bit of counter intellegence to muddy the waters

b) Bunk being fed into the online community to lead people on

c) Trial balloons being floated by GW to solicit feedback

d) Shenanigans posted by 2 lonely college students who dont want to write papers...

Oooh double-ninja'd!

Yeah, at this point, if I'm looking for something different, I just grab a different mini line. Updates for my 4 preexisting are what I'm looking for.

A new race would be awesome but it sounds to good to be true ! and we are talking about GW here so while I wish this was the case I highly doubt it.

Paranoia_Agent wrote:A new race would be awesome but it sounds to good to be true ! and we are talking about GW here so while I wish this was the case I highly doubt it.

These days, it seems more likely that they will add a new race rather than update an old one. Sad, but true.

These days, it seems more likely that they will add a new race rather than update an old one. Sad, but true.

Enter... Ogre Kingdoms part 2!

Who are the 'normally reliable posters' the article mentions? Anyway know? I'd check my self, but my work-filter blocks Warseer.

It doesn't seem very likely. I think there is scope for a 'neutral' race, perhaps loosely based on the Squats (in that they're squat looking humanoids, but not beards or Celtic themed features), but with a taste for living underground and building massive machines. But they're be better off employing their limited resources to, say, do a complete rework of an existing race, as they did with the DE. The Necrons, for instance. With only a couple of existing plastic sets in the range, plus the badly dated Monolith, the potential is there for giving them the DE treatment.

The fragments of god thing sounds like the rumors about the C'Tan.

agnosto wrote:The fragments of god thing sounds like the rumors about the C'Tan.

Nah, that bit of fluff about godly fragments has been around for eons. Longer than the C'tan IIRC

It's just swampgas reflected off a weather balloon...

Think it's possible that it's both true and false -- the sketches and concepts may exist, but that doesn't mean the army is on the schedule. So I'm not gonna dismiss it, but I'm not gonna hold my breath either.

There's nothing wrong with these kinds of rumors, IMO. I consider it more of a long-range forecast with the accompanying larger margin for error.

Could be BoLS BS...

But hey, at least they posted it first!

There is no salt mountain large enough to feature in a picture here to illustrate my disbelief in this 'rumour'.


And yes, GW can't even maintain a solid turnover with their current codices. (and they're certainly not providing adequate cover with the army book releases so far for 8th WHFB). So perhaps getting their current house in order would seem more prudent than releasing yet another race.

Given no SoB codex and the stop-gap of a WD codex for them, I don't think they have the time or inclination.





Buuuut.... if they were to do a new codex, I'd be happy to see a non-marine one.

I'd love to see this, firstly one of the coolsest 40K raes, the Hrud is there (always great)

Secondly it's a non-marine codex, and in fact a non-human codex, I'm personally fed up with about half the forces being humans and three quaters of them being marines and I know almost everyone else probably is too

Thirdly it's a unique type of Xenos, ok at one point it was a little Skaveny but by the sound of it it'll be unique, no doubt the models will be gorgeous if the Hrud art is anything to go by, and their not just humanoid aliens like the Eldar, Tau and to an extent, Orcs

I'd love this and it is fitting in with GW's current policy of bringing back old races or races that have only been in the background, they brought back the Jokerao, in 40K and in Fantasy the Albion models and Lammaus/Greater Taurus as well as saying their doing Zoats and Fimir. And there are rumors of classic Necrons and Demiurg for the Tau

Alpharius wrote:Could be BoLS BS...

But hey, at least they posted it first!

There's a first time for everything.

I'm very skeptical, since GW has made it clear fairly recently that they weren't planning on adding any new races, and they probably have their hands full with 6th Edition as it is. Further, a poster on the BoLS forums claims that the rumors are completely fake and the result of an intentional plant, so I would take all this with a massive, massive grain of salt. I could MAYBE see Hrud being a unit in the new Codex: Tau Empire or something but I think it's very, very unlikely that they'll get a standalone Codex, especially in the near future.

Its wierd how they might make an army about a race who you almost never hear about in the fluff.

Begel Dverl wrote:Its wierd how they might make an army about a race who you almost never hear about in the fluff.

Agreed!

I mean, for the longest time, we were led to believe that they were essentially Space Skaven.

Now, Codex: Alpha Legion - that's one I could get excited about!

While I'd be happy to see a new race, especially another xeno race, I have to echo the concerns of a new race when the existing armies get questionable support as it is. (Tyranid second wave, anyone?)

Still, I'm a skaven player so if the Hrud are even remotely "space-skaveny" I'll be happy

streamdragon wrote:
Still, I'm a skaven player so if the Hrud are even remotely "space-skaveny" I'll be happy

We all know they won't be. All newer fluff goes along with what was in Xenology meaning they'll be this covered in robes/cloaks:

Hrud and their ageing technology - Pension Cannon

Aw :( What happened to the space ratmen hrud? When did that change?

I thought Xenology has been declared excommunicatus, i.e., not canon?

streamdragon wrote:Aw :( What happened to the space ratmen hrud? When did that change?

In Xenology, so a while ago.

The only time they were "Space Skaven" was a single picture in 3rd edition where they happened to have a rat-like tail poking out.



Note the big fuzzy thing with claws, the Donorian Clawed Fiend, which now looks like this instead:

That's what some people want to believe... because an artist drew a Tau foot wrong.

Alpharius wrote:I thought Xenology has been declared excommunicatus, i.e., not canon?

Since when? It's Black Library and as people love to say, Black library is canon. I've never seen anything to contradict that.

I want this to be true so badly.