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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Winchester

Have any of you came across a player who you would never play again? Why would you not do so?

 
   
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh





Norwalk, Connecticut

Yup. Played a tournament round against someone who managed to squeak in with an illegal list (I thought I'd squash him, so didn't report it). He then proceeded to make every single regeneration save he was called upon to make. Failed one in the entire game. I suspect weighted dice. He absolutely crushed me because he couldn't fail a single save, then threw me a sportsmanship score of 0 because he didn't appreciate my list. Yeah, if I ran into him again, I'd probably refuse the match. I'll admit I did also score him a 0 for suspected weighted dice and an illegal list. My list was mean (1000pts with a Grey Seer, Hellpit Abom, 2 units of censor bearers, clan rats and stormvermin w/ storm banner), but hardly illegal. His was prior to 8th edition vampires, where the 7th edition book stated that direwolves didn't count towards core unit minimum restrictions, and he only took wolves and corpse carts for core, then had a VC and Graveguard deathstar. In 8th this list is now legal, but it was not at the time. The carts (or a banner, forgot which) gave his guys regen and they were unfailable. I probably sound bitter, but I guess I am-guy had to cheat to take 3rd place at a free tournament that didn't give prizes (other than a medal). I got a medal the year before for 40k and wanted to add a fantasy to my collection, but not after that game...

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Raging Ravener



Raleigh, NC

There was only one I've run into since I started playing in 5th. His name was "Justin". He was a complete douchenozzle. He brought the hardest list he could. Rode the line between playing within the rules and outright cheating. Would rules-lawyer the hell out you until you just packed up your stuff or went along with his interpretation of the rules. He was our TFG. Most of the gamers in the area simply refused to play him anymore. Many local stores banned him outright. I'm not sure what happened to him, I think he moved away. Whatever happened, good riddance. He does however live on as the butt of many a joke and the person you just don't want to be compared to.

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TL : DR - Shorthand for ""Hi, I am a miserable cretin of the Internet that must be spoon-fed pictures and factoids or I will piss myself."

 
   
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swordbrotherjim wrote:Have any of you came across a player who you would never play again? Why would you not do so?


All real:

1. "Middle aged socially awkward creeper guy" with lots of "boobie conversions" on his SOB

2. "Loud-mouthed skinhead with nazi marines guy"

3. "ddumpster guy" (body odor could floor you from across the table}

4. "Proxy guy".

5. "Rules Lawyer guy"

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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit





United States

A guy at our Flgs, who thankfully rarely shows anymore, was the extreme representation of arrogance. Any opinion (even facts) that rivalled his own thinking were out of the question. In a 2v2 game, he set up all his little tank trap things in a huge line that co*k blocked our armies (I played orks, my bro played nids) he also played burna heavy orks. SO he would force us to move through narrow gaps and he'd turbo boost his burnas in a truck and flame the f**k out of our blobs of troops. Meanwhile, his comrade (and best friend) blasted us with sub munitions from three hammer heads. It was my brothers first and last game. He left his orks in a tackle box for a long period of time at the store, and when he recovered them, they had been beaten up. They were obviously moved multiple times by the owner, but he reverted to blamming me since I was the youngest of our group. Pot-bellied, big-headed, arrogant, son'of'a bitch that one.

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Mutilatin' Mad Dok






Liverpool, england

That guy, who's list is never not at least 250-400pts larger than yours.

   
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There is this one guy who, if i can avoid it, i dont want to play against. None of his guys are painted, always tells me what i should field(despite me telling him i dont want too) and run the cheesiests lists ever. He talks about starting another army when none of his guys are painted just because he wants to win. And he is a slob and kinda just someone you dont want to play againts.

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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Earth

We had a guy like that, kept telling me that my force needed this or that, i have been playing 20+ years, think i know what works and what doesnt and sometimes i want to play the stuff the immortal interwebz deems crapy lol
   
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Its ironic too, he go beat with a tau list havy on the kroot and no Crisis suits.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Omadon's Realm

I have been told to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, that it was largely a misunderstanding.

My friend from work, with whom I gamed and enjoyed the experience, told me about his flat mate who wanted to have a game with me. My friend warned me that it would a 'competitive' game as this guy didn't like to lose.

I arranged via my friend to meet this guy at the local shop. We set up, I brought my usual list of battlewagon based orks and something became immediately obvious, this guy had none of the usual targets, no vehicles whatsoever, multiple small units of marines with rockets and melta. His army was geared towards killing mine specifically. It became clear my friend from work had obviously been talking our games over and this guy had sat down and geared his list, which I had no idea about, to break mine, which he clearly knew everything about. And he deployed everything in a silly conga line behind a piece of terrain which blocked los. In what should have been an open, relaxed game, he painstakingly moved everything by tiny degrees to deny charges, had melta suicide scouts stuck onto terrain to attack my wagons and took half hour turns to move everything 'just so' and then change his mind and move again.

And he bought a friend... this other guy sat at the edge of the table with the rulebook and questioned everything I did, from my disembark,shoot,assault from wagons, to the kff's save for vehicles and everything else. This sidekick didn't have a clue what my army did and seemed to be some editions behind the times but not once stopped from questioning me in everything I did in a manner which strongly suggested that it was I who was cheating or gaming for some advantage.

I lasted 3 turns before I shook the other guy's hand and told him he'd won, because the entire experience was irritating me so much. He was apparently an exGW manager, I would hate to have experienced that style as my introduction to the games as a young man.



 
   
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh





Norwalk, Connecticut

My buddies and I all play different stuff than what the internet advises-Rats? We don't do hordes, we do small, compact, elite units and always, ALWAYS field a doom rocket. Why wouldn't you?! 40k daemons? I fielded Slaanesh Princes, Nurgle Princes, Flamers, Plaguebearers, Seekers and KoS's. Meta-game said Tzeralds on discs, Tzeentch Princes, Horrors and Fiends. No thanks, I play what works for me, not what works for the web. Sure, there are units you are a fool not to take (longfangs/mournfangs), but there is a difference between following the internet and thinking for yourself and making a list others aren't prepared to deal with. Formosa is 100% right. Kinda wish there was a way to remove power lists from the internet...while I'm at the impossible wishes, I'd like my farts to always smell like strawberries.

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Hallowed Canoness





The Void

I /really/ hate TFG in all his myriad forms (New theory TFGs are avatars of Tzeentch) Whether it's whining about conversions or counts as in a friendly game, insane rules lawyering (to be clear I run a legal game, but Goddess if you need to break out a BRB every turn there are /issues/ at hand.)

Smack talking another's army or generally making an arse of one's self.

Telling me how I should do things for my army as if you're the divine authority on all strategy (a friendly suggestion is fine "Hey next time, try countering X unit or move with Y, it's really thrown a spanner in the works for me before", acting like a sanctimonious arrogant jerk is not)

Basically any one who isn't in the game for the same reason I am which is to have FUN. A radical concept to be sure...

My first encounter with TFG was actually before I got in to the true flamers of nerdery back when my favorite things were peanut butter and banana sammiches and playing the Poke'mon TCG with my friends. A new kid transferred in to class sat down where the rest of the proto-nerds were eating at lunch and pulled his deck out. In short the kid was the TFG perfected, any thing to win, rules lawyering before we knew what the hell that was, cheated every possible way he could and when he one would try to take other kid's cards cause he'd "won them".

I have to admit I'm glad I met that little because it made me realize there's no point to any hobby unless you are having /fun/ with said hobby.

I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long


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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/user/edit/40180.page

Guy that takes 2 hours to make an army list..... thankfully, I've heard that there is a rule that you have to pre-make your army list (I think?)

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MeanGreenStompa wrote:I have been told to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, that it was largely a misunderstanding.

My friend from work, with whom I gamed and enjoyed the experience, told me about his flat mate who wanted to have a game with me. My friend warned me that it would a 'competitive' game as this guy didn't like to lose.

I arranged via my friend to meet this guy at the local shop. We set up, I brought my usual list of battlewagon based orks and something became immediately obvious, this guy had none of the usual targets, no vehicles whatsoever, multiple small units of marines with rockets and melta. His army was geared towards killing mine specifically. It became clear my friend from work had obviously been talking our games over and this guy had sat down and geared his list, which I had no idea about, to break mine, which he clearly knew everything about. And he deployed everything in a silly conga line behind a piece of terrain which blocked los. In what should have been an open, relaxed game, he painstakingly moved everything by tiny degrees to deny charges, had melta suicide scouts stuck onto terrain to attack my wagons and took half hour turns to move everything 'just so' and then change his mind and move again.

And he bought a friend... this other guy sat at the edge of the table with the rulebook and questioned everything I did, from my disembark,shoot,assault from wagons, to the kff's save for vehicles and everything else. This sidekick didn't have a clue what my army did and seemed to be some editions behind the times but not once stopped from questioning me in everything I did in a manner which strongly suggested that it was I who was cheating or gaming for some advantage.

I lasted 3 turns before I shook the other guy's hand and told him he'd won, because the entire experience was irritating me so much. He was apparently an exGW manager, I would hate to have experienced that style as my introduction to the games as a young man.
I have had pretty much the same experience with some one just like this.


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Guy who flits between the 2 local GWs, plays straight up eldar. In passing, he argues against every list about how is elder can beat them. Thunderwolves? His eldar "can dance circles around them and shoot them down" Paladins? His eldar "will instant death those 2 wounds away". Now smack talking for confidence is onething, going on constanty is another. Ontop of that, he does manage that, Not cus of his eldar, but because without declaring what hes doing itl be a case of he will arbitarily roll dice, quickly scoop them up and tell you you need this many saves, or tell you to just remove that many models. Ontop of the lines like "theres no point you rolling, you wont be able to get 6s on 4 dice" and tries to talk you out of it.

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doc1234 wrote:Guy who flits between the 2 local GWs, plays straight up eldar. In passing, he argues against every list about how is elder can beat them. Thunderwolves? His eldar "can dance circles around them and shoot them down" Paladins? His eldar "will instant death those 2 wounds away". Now smack talking for confidence is onething, going on constanty is another. Ontop of that, he does manage that, Not cus of his eldar, but because without declaring what hes doing itl be a case of he will arbitarily roll dice, quickly scoop them up and tell you you need this many saves, or tell you to just remove that many models. Ontop of the lines like "theres no point you rolling, you wont be able to get 6s on 4 dice" and tries to talk you out of it.


I think I may have met this guy. Seems obsessed with Wraithlords.


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The Void

doc1234 wrote:Guy who flits between the 2 local GWs, plays straight up eldar. In passing, he argues against every list about how is elder can beat them. Thunderwolves? His eldar "can dance circles around them and shoot them down" Paladins? His eldar "will instant death those 2 wounds away". Now smack talking for confidence is onething, going on constanty is another. Ontop of that, he does manage that, Not cus of his eldar, but because without declaring what hes doing itl be a case of he will arbitarily roll dice, quickly scoop them up and tell you you need this many saves, or tell you to just remove that many models. Ontop of the lines like "theres no point you rolling, you wont be able to get 6s on 4 dice" and tries to talk you out of it.


Gaaaaaaah playing your dice "loaded" like that is just a frakky way to be. This is why I have actively started using dice bag on my tablet "Okay lemme roll for this..." *presses button* "Okay here's the results" *shows tablet* a couple guys I know at the store have standardized it for play with guys who are "fast rollers"

I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long


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I just don't play with people like this... I'm lucky with my gaming group though. We're lovely.
   
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Grimtuff wrote:
doc1234 wrote:Guy who flits between the 2 local GWs, plays straight up eldar. In passing, he argues against every list about how is elder can beat them. Thunderwolves? His eldar "can dance circles around them and shoot them down" Paladins? His eldar "will instant death those 2 wounds away". Now smack talking for confidence is onething, going on constanty is another. Ontop of that, he does manage that, Not cus of his eldar, but because without declaring what hes doing itl be a case of he will arbitarily roll dice, quickly scoop them up and tell you you need this many saves, or tell you to just remove that many models. Ontop of the lines like "theres no point you rolling, you wont be able to get 6s on 4 dice" and tries to talk you out of it.


I think I may have met this guy. Seems obsessed with Wraithlords.


Coventry/ nuneaton area?

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He sounds like a massive tool. When you say "guy" do you actually mean "boy"?

 
   
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We had a guy who cheated at Malifaux any which way he could. He'd flip cards and cast a spell, then when he finds out it didn't work, he changes his mind and uses the same score to cast a different spell. He'd flip duels between his minis and once he'd seen the cards he'd then decide which was the attacker and which was the defender.

I won the game 4 - 2 but I told him straight up he was a cheat, and no one in our gaming group would play him and he might as well leave the LGS if thats was his manner of gaming. He moved on to a different game system after that (me and my friends are the only regular Malifaux players in the store) before dropping off the radar (I think the Dystoipan players gave him a similar talk)

Sometimes you have to drop the polite geek act and just state how throughly unenjoyable that gaming experience was and the reasons for it (Just as long as its actual incidences of cheating and not butt-hurt)

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WanderingMinstrel wrote:He sounds like a massive tool. When you say "guy" do you actually mean "boy"?


Oh he is -_- and id say early 20s at a guess, so YMMV on guy or boy when i started collecting, went on a rant about psyfledreads being overrated, that they barely stack up against his wraithlords

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Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

I've come across people who after talking to them I wouldn't likely play them.

Generally they are people who think that the following things are not over the top or broken:
Teclis
2 hydra or HPA
deathstar builds of doom

I also played a guy once who somehow had an endless supply of dispel scrolls(back when you could take more than 1) and madcap mushrooms. Lots of cheating for a random pickup game.

Many of these reasons are why I got my wife to play. I mean, I enjoy winning, but it's the whole "beating someone based on skill and merit" that makes me want to win, not winning at any cost. I enjoy seeing lists or players that beat me, as it makes me think of how to improve.

Honestly, if I wanted to win all day I'd keep playing WoW or BF3. I'm plenty good at those games and there are plenty of terrible players to make me feel better about myself. Winning at those games got old. It just wasn't fun anymore.

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Powerful Irongut






A couple off the top of my head - one has cheated everytime we have played, and broke a couple of my models.

The other was a narcissist who spent half three quarters of an hour setting up, during which time he showed me practically everyone of his models and droned on about the paintjob, which was ok but not as wonderful as he thought. Oh and he started giving out painting tips on my models. In the end I went for a coffee and cigarette. Then when the game started he argued about everything, and was under the impression that I was simply there to move my models where he wanted them moved - in the end I used the fake phone call on my phone, made my excuses, packed up and left.

   
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Wraith






Salem, MA

Luckily, no one I would NEVER play again, but a few who have come close...

Namely, younger guy (18ish) running Winter Guard Deathstar and eSorcha.First, he tried to convince me that because one WGI was in range of my DeathJack that all of them could CRA him. After being shown he was wrong, DJ ate quite a few WGI. Then he insisted that I couldn't get souls from his MoW Shocktroopers cause they were 'mini-jacks'.

Finally, Sorcha was against the back of the board. DJ with five focus and an arc node (with pDenny on the other end, fully loaded on focus as well) staring her down. I asked if he'd like to bow out now (he seemed frustrated and I didn't want to make him watch his caster be turned to paste if he didn't want to). He seemed to consider it, then told me there was definitively no way I could possible hurt him. Bravado aside, he was serious.

Eventually, we argued about AOE deviations (with an node 3" away, it can't drift 6" away!) until the entire store had to tell him he was incorrect.

I'd play him again. But I'd play a much more forward list, to avoid confusion.

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Barpharanges







A guy named Keran, cheats, bullies and swears at almost any one he plays whose not older or as strong as him. Attacked children, cheated constantly, just a donkey cave right off the bat, but at least I only go on the day he doesn't.

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Boston, MA

guyperson5 wrote:Guy that takes 2 hours to make an army list..... thankfully, I've heard that there is a rule that you have to pre-make your army list (I think?)

Well, you can't build your army list to counter the other guy's, that's a massive donkey-cave maneuver. There's no rule that you have to come prepared with an army list, but it's best to to save time.

Speaking of, I've got three opponents I hope not to play again.
1. I played against a guy at Pandemonium here in Boston who asked me what army I was playing and asked to see my list. I handed it over, he took it to the other side of the room, and build his army list specifically to counter mine. He then gloated about beating me with his 100% tailored list.
2. A player who, every single time I rolled the dice, would shout something like "Don't mess up!" at me, even after I asked him to stop. When you're having a bad game, it can get REALLY frustrating to have someone chirping that at you over and over again. Most of my games against him were, in fact, bad games.
3. A player who, after I beat him with a fairly fluffy and balanced list, proceeded to start a passive/aggressive shitstorm over on our game group forums. The next week when we had a rematch, I called him out on it and he said it wasn't him, it was everyone else who was being passive/aggressive, and that I shouldn't be playing to win so much. Yep, it sure is WAAC of me when I charge with assault units.

Outside of these three, I've had almost universally positive experiences playing 40k. I've met a few folks at conventions in historical games who weren't fun to game with, but those are few and far between, and so far back I can't even remember.

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Behind you

Phoo, 3 different guys.

First of all, the 1000 point wonder. Took a thousand points in a five hundred point game tournament. It was completely obvious it was over, I tallied it up, then informed the TO. He ended up having a yelling match with the TO and stormed out without his minis.

second guy. Kept switching IC's in the middle of a game (unpainted and unlabelled) wolf lords and wolf priests with no deviation.

Third guy, he started switching weapons in the middle of a 4th edition game, then could assault 2d6. Bull.


 
   
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At the last local tournament there was a guy caught using "cheat dice" (two ones no sixes, or two sixes no ones). It was handled quietly at the time, but came up later on Facebook. His name was released and he was unapologetic about the situation.

Based on his reaction I'd never play him again. Showing no remorse after being caught cheating...

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TFG with a WAAC DoC list vs my wood elves... on a 4x4 table... not only was he TFG my army couldn't do anything since it wouldnt physically fit on the table (I didn't do 'herohammer' in 7th) which sucked. His cheesy list optimised to GW tables pwned me.

He was a good painted but not very nice and had an annoying method of rolling dice and some sort of laugh/whoop/giggle when he got the results he needed.
   
 
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