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Sidstyler wrote:

Ygds wrote:
Hey just spotted this, I don't know if you saw it andI don't want to be indecent but that gut sword is for sure a phallic symbol. The two hairy heads hanging on his waist, are well, you get it, their right below the gut sword, that beastlord rules by his own might that is for sure. He is either compensating as already mentioned or he really is THE beastman.

...*facepalm* wow...never noticed that before. With the heads...

It just makes my joke about the thrusting even more hilarious, imagine those things dangling around while he does it.

That must be why they are there. What better way to distract your enemy than two heads dangling below a belly blade?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

reds8n wrote: ..as stated earlier : this is the Beastmen 's first "codex"..as previously they shared it with the other chaos beastsnotmen and other chaos units..initially anyway.

But all they had 'sides Beastman units were Ogres, Trolls and Dragon Ogres. Won't that mean that once this Army Book hits, Dragon Ogres won't be available to any army? I mean, should we expect Codex: Dragon Ogre Kingdoms to come next?

All they're really doing is removing 6 units from the book - Spawn, Chaos Trolls, Chaos Ogres, Dragon Ogres, Shaggoths and Giants.

Oh well, at least it's yet another example of GW changing horses mid-race. They finally begin to unify the style of the Chaos Army books first with the new Daemons of Chaos, then with Warriors of Chaos. An updated Beasts of Chaos was inevitable to complete the circle (or... triangle...) but no, GW has to change their direction once again.

I think he's talking about the old book allowing demon and morals to be included. Or not.

Correct. morTals though ..oh Dr. Freud where art thou now ?

Reds8n speaks in riddles.

When seeking the truth the truth must first find you !

The wise man knows that he is weakest when he thinks himself strong!

So chances are no Mortal/Cultist units in the army thats a shame should be good anyway. Lets hoping they get something to deal with a Star Dragon!

Hmm, what would that be? Perhaps a dragon mutation? Or a big-as-the-Spacewolfs-wolf bear?

Or a minotaur lord heart of woe tac-nuke...

Llamahead wrote:So chances are no Mortal/Cultist units in the army thats a shame should be good anyway.

Afraid not.

Bestigor are priced in a/the same manner as Golds...err Greatswords, are indeed 10 per box.

Placcy minotaurs are 3 to a box, lots of options including 2 handed weapons and shields as well.

Razorgor is gakker than you'd believe possible, modelwise anyway.

reds8n wrote:

Placcy minotaurs are 3 to a box, lots of options including 2 handed weapons and shields as well.

.

Man Im really curious about these... Hope its a hit and not a miss but with GW you have 50/50 chance.

reds8n wrote:
Bestigor are priced in a/the same manner as Golds...err Greatswords, are indeed 10 per box.

Razorgor is gakker than you'd believe possible, modelwise anyway.

Aha, greed and gak models.

The mutant boar things that pull the chariots are bad enough... razorgor is one of those covered in spikes perhaps?

I can believe quite a lot of gak possible from this and eagerly await laughing at it, as I laughed at the space wolf giant shitzu rider model.

reds8n wrote:
Bestigor are priced in a/the same manner as Golds...err Greatswords, are indeed 10 per box.

Placcy minotaurs are 3 to a box, lots of options including 2 handed weapons and shields as well.

Razorgor is gakker than you'd believe possible, modelwise anyway.

That's a shame about the bestigor pricing.

Hard to imagine Beastmen models that are _worse_ than the current minotaurs, but I wouldn't be surprised.

GW is also not having a good track-record lately of naming things well (Why's 'razor' got to be the prefix for everything these days?).

Jin wrote:
GW is also not having a good track-record lately of naming things well (Why's 'razor' got to be the prefix for everything these days?).

Given the really gakky names for the upcoming tyranids, I think GW hired that little oriental shop keeper from tremors, he who came up with the genius name of 'graboids'...

I wonder if the new special rule for the belly blades is "At the end of each battle, roll 1d6 for each unit of 'Gors with belly blades. On a 1, the unit inflicts 2d6 Str3 hits on itself due to congratulatory chest bumping injuries, with armor saves taken as normal."

Also, the smooth chested beastmen look like they are angry due to being kicked out of the Village People. There needs to be one with a leather hat and assless chaps to really complete the cover.

reds8n wrote:Razorgor is gakker than you'd believe possible, modelwise anyway.

Hmm...I seem to recall Inquisitor Engel on Warseer saying that the new Minotaurs were terrible too.

It's kinda disappointing to think this release isn't getting their best sculptors, etc.

If that's true, then I think I'm gonna stay away from the army yet again. Shame - the conceptual aesthetics are great.

If the new Bestigor are $41.25 US for 10 I guess I'll stick with the metal ones I got at the last GW dented box sale back in early 2004 for about $10 per box.

It all looks very subpar when compared to the recent lovely Skaven models.

As for the cowmen...hmm.... a LOT better than the Razorgor, but not great. So far..when we get to see better pics from different angles maybe they'll look better. Here's hoping !

The more we hear about this release, the worse it sounds!

The old models might fetch quite a bit though, if the rule set is any good.

I am still amazed at some of the models that make it out the door at GW these days...

BrassScorpion wrote:Minotaurs are based on the monster of classical Greek mythology, Asterius, called the Minotaur, slain by Theseus. That Minotaur was a man with the head of a bull. Man with the head of a bull = Minotaur. Bull with the head of a bull = bull.

Did you seriously just RAW miniature design? Man.

There is a little thing on the gw website which shows the the book and when there coming but thats all.

It just occured to me that a simple solution to the "slanngor/Tzengor/etc" problem is to eliminate marked units, and just have bestigors... which also is in keeping with the blurb about the beastmen following chaos undivided.

I think this will be another version of Beastmen which I ignore.

I don't know. I really want this to be my first warhammer fantasy army, but I cannot stand crappy models. however I was underwhelmed at first with the plaguebearer models sold by GW. But it soon became clear once I bought some that their real disadvantage is their paint job in most photos. Though I am no great painter I liked my paint job much more than the one they had. The models themselves are awesome, they just needed a more personal touch. The beastmen, I hope will have well done models. And as far as Gakk level (I just learned this word from you guys never heard it before now hope i got the right meaning) I love the tuskgor chariot models myself and am sure once again I could paint them better (well not better as in better quality better as in pallate). The current minotaurs are horrible in my opinion, their teeth look cumbersome and their heads overwhelm the rest of the model. I was able to through together more proportionate models in plastesine when I was 11. I think i made a minotaur once. If I could only master greenstuff the way I mastered plastesine, there would be none of this $700.00 later stuff, I would build everything from scratch and would not now be holding out for the models. Such a great army concept, they just need something worthy of it. But if the models look like something from a very old dungeons and dragons book then count me out.

lasgunpacker wrote:It just occured to me that a simple solution to the "slanngor/Tzengor/etc" problem is to eliminate marked units, and just have bestigors... which also is in keeping with the blurb about the beastmen following chaos undivided.

I think this will be another version of Beastmen which I ignore.

Wow this really disappoints me if it's true. I just started an escalation league too with the intention of running Beastmen with their current codex. At least I'll be able to experience what they were like as I plan on running some mortals/exalted deamon/daemon legions.

If they gave the pinkish Beast some fur (not a lot, damn furries) I think they'd add to the intimidation factor.

Hell, while I'm at it, might as well give him some armor.

I think when they say "Beastmen are the first race" They mean the first race to fully succumb to Chaos (Barring Dragon Ogres, methinks). Sure, you have Chaos Mortals, but it seems like Beastmen would have come first (Seeing as they were created during the opening (closing?) of the polar Gates, or whatnot)

I hope they don't remove the Giant/Dragon Ogres/Chaos Trolls etc. They're kinda the Heavy hitters of the current Beast list, and Chaos isn't chaos without them (Barring Daemons of Chaos)

Am I the only one who has seen "Time Bandits"?

I see that cover and I see the Minotaur scene from that movie.
http://www.videodetective.com/photos/008/000037_46.jpg
The one with Sean Connery as Agamemnon.

The cover is horrible. All you get a glimpse of is Beastmen and a Minotaur.
There isn't enough there without the more colorful beasts to make it interesting.

The secret is that there aren't any more colorful beasts. Every cover at least alludes to the sort of characteristic units that the book has for the army. Here, there are only beastmen and minotaurs, because there will be no other units.

I saw the art for the army book. It looked impressive to say the least.

Word of advice to GW; Stop making all possiblly good armies gak.

As for the Ogre Shaggoths, I thought that they were not Chaos, just really old and violent.

The Shaggoths ain't chaos, they just sold their souls to the big four. Shame that they are supposed to get dropped.

Greets
Schepp himself

Oh, OK.

Well for me Il wait and see what they do to beast of chaos, and if It is not to my liking then Il go with Skaven instead as they really cool new models...

over and out avach


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Srry forgot to wright got in between really and cool..

over and out avach